Hello, how can i contact you for an interview for chanel "Sinergias Holisticas" ?. thanks.
@leilareginaleite3644Күн бұрын
Hi Dear! Greetings from Brazil
@lynnroots75563 күн бұрын
❤ great dialogue Thank you both 💞L xxx July 8th 2024
@lynnroots75563 күн бұрын
Brilliant dialogue Ana And I love your guest Martin S Moritz I have lots to learn here from both of you 💞L xxx July 8th 11:13🌞Monday I love that line “ trying to drown one’s sorrows … only to discover they’ve learned to swim “. Oh my !!!
@lorettavalentin34414 күн бұрын
"Psychic mantle" is what Kriyananda called it. He said that I was having communication with Shelly's "psychic mantle." So the astrology of the psychic mantle remains. But, meme is fun.
@annecross65237 күн бұрын
Fantastic conversation, I was enthralled, it’s one of my favourite subject. I have recently got a copy of Liz Greene book and I’m so looking forward to reading it. Much love ❤
@AndreBougie7 күн бұрын
Hi Ana - I just discovered your channel and these interviews are absolutely phenomenal! Your questions are intelligent and informed and you get to the heart of things in a very deep and meaningful way. I am a decently knowledgeable amateur astrologer and I am drinking this all in and learning soooo much! You contribute to the conversation at least as much as your guests. Thank you and keep it coming. Blessings be for you. 🙏🌀💛
@hollycourtney2217 күн бұрын
Ana, You are truly one of my favorites….. you are so knowledgeable and real and I’m so grateful for you sharing all your wisdom and practices along with all your guests that you interview who are just as wonderful!
@mindyklotz65127 күн бұрын
Oh this was just wonderful!! Ive only just recently heard Martin speak and instantly loved what he had to share and even more so here. My Venus is in Aries too and I was born with my SN and Neptune conjunct my DC and this whole conversation was just super awrsome to hear. Oh this was just wonderful!! Ive only just recently heard Martin speak and instantly loved what he had to share and even more so here. My Venus is in Aries too😂 I was born with my SN and Neptune conjunct my DC and this whole conversation was just super awesome to hear but Ana Isabel "My Sorrows have learned to swim" made my Pisces self think🤯🤣. Things are slippery to catch and Pisces World but I am totally putting that phrase inside my fishing tackle box🤔🥰🤩
@LaDeeDah8 күн бұрын
This was great!
@user-dy5oq9kd2q9 күн бұрын
Fascinating conversation, thank you to both of you lovely people. <3
@anya-ida_14 күн бұрын
thank you so much!!
@melaniehall50916 күн бұрын
Thank you for touching on this subject!🙏 I am an identical twin. My sister and I have our sun in Libra and our mercury in Scorpio. We are very close and I also agree with what you mentioned about one twin using more of one planet etc. How Liz Greene has explained it. What I found to be very interesting is mercury Saturn tends to be a signature of a only child. My sister and I have an older brother who is only 22months older. He has Saturn mercury conjunction in Leo. He treated us like we were less than..or that he disapproved of us. All we wanted was his approval. He was slightly favoured by our parents but that wasn’t something that bothered us. Maybe he would of been happier if he was an only child 😔.
@cfttify16 күн бұрын
If one knows they are having a terrible time thru a Pluto transit... i think that's great and thank goodness! 🍁💫
@cfttify16 күн бұрын
Such a valuable conversation. Thank you Ana,🔆
@judemcdougall950423 күн бұрын
I appreciate your sharing thank you.
@moonpluto28 күн бұрын
Good discussion. Social alienation due to striving for or orienting life around some new ideal can lead to greater individuation and individuality. It often does. Uranus is not about a group over all other considerations. Its about idea over relationship. It sacrifices groups and personal relationships for the ideal. Many transits and charts do not support the contention of Liz Greene's that Uranus is about group over individuality. Nice point by Jean Marc re Uranus as raw energy. Not a conscious energy. So many in astrology take the planets too far and get idolatrous with them and deify and ascribe consciousness to what is inanimate and has no free will. Nice point at the end re Uranus as the provocateur, asking humanity - who are you? Just programmable automatons?
@bakirwan129 күн бұрын
Your explanation of Uranus makes my Uranus in the 4th house make more sense. I've always felt this movement away from the importance of individuality towards something more collectively-minded. At the same time, I think it probably made me overlook some of my true individuality until I grew up a bit, I wonder does Uranus itself cause issues like that when placed in a house so angular and lets say, 'personal'? I can certainly see how I can benefit society by being socially conscious/aware, but it's as if I've needed to work on my individuality in order to understand how I could frame it better. I can see how some of those Uranus concerns overshadowed a need for individuality, which is quite interesting and worth knowing as it helps in terms of personal evolution.
@bakirwan129 күн бұрын
Maybe this is a bit off-track but another side of it I find interesting is I am a Leo and have a stellium there. I have these Uranus impulses, though I actually don't know how to express them in a very Aquarian way, but I know that I want to reach out and connect, given that Uranus is in my roots, that energy. But me as a Leo, I need to do it from somewhere that's very personal. A poem, a song, a sudden burst of expression through dance, I am good at leading the way with my own body/voice. I can be outspoken but it comes from my own heart, not what others have told me to say. I'm not good at being someone reading off a collective manifesto or repeating a chant, I need to be an individual burning with a personal passion. And yet... it is often guided by that personal impulse to connect on a collective level, breathe life into the world.
@piersonjeanmarcАй бұрын
Thank you for having me Isabel! We could have carried on and on, I had other ideas popping up in my mind after we talked!
@cfttifyАй бұрын
Appreciate the Liz Greene definition of uranus that you read
@judemcdougall9504Ай бұрын
Bonjour Jean-Marc Merci beaucoup
@piersonjeanmarcАй бұрын
C'est moi qui vous remercie!
@almam.6880Ай бұрын
Progression carries destruction within itself. One can beautify the term and call it "transformation" and sing that energy can't be destroyed, it just changes form. Maybe that what happened to the Neanderthals, they just changed form. Would you rather be a Neanderthal or a homo sapien? Sure from spiritual point of view, all incarnation are "valuable" or whatever. Fetuses extracting nutrients from the mothers body leaving her deficient if she didn't take care of herself is also the new that will emerge at the expense of the old if necessary. Where is your infant or child body? It has been destroyed and you inhabit a new form now, your adult body. Progression. We may not know if the outcome is going to be favorable, but I guess favorable to who? Is the question. Eventually homo sapiens will go extinct. Moving forward to the future stars now, for sure.
@almam.6880Ай бұрын
A note: Uranus conjunct my Asc in Sag
@don-eb3fjАй бұрын
Great subject for the times. Your comment about Behaviorism and programmable humans immediately connected me with a comment by World Economic Forum mouthpiece Juval Noah Harrari in his anti-humanist thesis about humans being "hackable animals". Maybe we should take up a collection for gas money for Elan's shiny spaceship, put all the technocrats on it, and send them all home to Mars, since they apparently all hate everything here and are doing their best to turn Earth into their "home away from home". Just have to make sure they only have enough fuel for a one-way trip. Or : "Gee whiz, we forgot to account for the sun's gravitational pull, looks like Icarus is gonna get a little lesson about Solar power- oops."
@roberth2627Ай бұрын
Great topic & discussion ...! !
@Lisa-sq3zlАй бұрын
You two help me mellow out 💞.
@mrsquics4588Ай бұрын
10:52 excellent quote from Anne! great exchanges around Jung's projections (including projections astrologers could accidently make! (am glad you both were brave enough to become astrologers! lol) ... great example at the end from Anne illustrating family complexes and how astrology can help us work with these for the better & Ana your seminar sounded amazing! Those Centaurs are piquing my interest after watching your vid with Melanie Reinhart ... interesting how you've delved into family complexes ... have literally just found one of them popping up in a good few family composite & a synastry chart!! much #gratitude as ever
@Sue-ud8xtАй бұрын
So interesting Melanie! Your comment about Chiron and Kronos rings so true for me. I have Chiron and Kronos (Saturn) conjunct in my 6th house. I have always felt that I have and will be on my own. Yes I have parents but did but feel their presence in my life.
@mrsquics4588Ай бұрын
Absolutely the love the syncs Melanie got around Chariklo & the way she learned astrology!!! looking forward to this book!
@ShaunaMarieSingsАй бұрын
💗💗💗
@lynnroots7556Ай бұрын
Thank you Ray and Ana This is absolutely fascinating and I have no doubt that since everything is energy …… our charts are integrated with our soul …. Which merely changes form Thank you both 💞L xxx May 29th 2024
@kelliepitts7906Ай бұрын
Love Steven Forrest. 😊
@personalforme1955Ай бұрын
I absolutely love my 12th house planets. Ha! I have 6 planets in the 12th.
@TERRA8581Ай бұрын
Kelley, thank you so much for your animated and lively rendering of these sky characters. So grateful for your dedication and creativity. I can’t wait for the next installment of “the lives of the KB O’s” 👏♾️👏♾️🌟👏🌟🎶🎶🎶
@maryvanhoutte9036Ай бұрын
Wonderful discussion, thank you both so much for sharing your wisdom and information.
@luciferluceroАй бұрын
Believe in Jesus! ⚡⚡
@anya_idaАй бұрын
i love Kelley Hunter thank you! she is so wisdom
@michellegalvan4923Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏✨💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@cfttifyАй бұрын
Oh such rich conversation! I delight in Kelley's ability to story tell and weave truely sparkling✨thank you Ana !
@ambiencelectronicaАй бұрын
Please double check real data and observations of the balls of light a few hundred miles in the sky. Not light years etc..
@kelleyhunter801Ай бұрын
If you are referring to an alternate view of our Earth realm under the firmament, I am in deep consideration of this.
@emilywoods5789Ай бұрын
Yes!!! I need some inspiration today! Thank you! 🙏✨️
@AMjaz88Ай бұрын
I'm really hoping to gain more insight at the uranus/Jupiter conjunction. It was conjunct my chiron in Taurus directly at 21°. My chiron is the apex of a double yod as well. My mid life transits have also been happening. It's been a lot.
@MysticalMermaid47112 ай бұрын
This Saturn in Pisces has reunited my fiancé with his estranged father. Both have Mars in Pisces. My fiancés Saturn is also in Pisces. How beautiful is that?
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Wow! Just beautiful! Thank you for sharing this!😊
@myferilli2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Ana, for the interesting conversation! Your channel is a treasure trove of astrology. ❤
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I am very blessed to be able to share these wonderful conversations with everyone!
@user-js4sb4qq2h2 ай бұрын
How is this possibly flying under the radar???? Diamonds and rubies and pearls of relevant ways we can heal ourselves in the world...
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
I suspect because we have been seduced into believing man made chemicals are superior to what nature offers. Nothing could be further from the truth! I’m glad you found this wonderful conversation!😊
@user-js4sb4qq2h2 ай бұрын
@@lifeastrologer Oh no, we have not been seduced and I've seen many friends leave the planet, my father included, by being poisoned by synthetic drugs and chemicals in the guise of healing medicine... I think it is the delusional spell of our corporate capitalistic over lords that lure us into sleep walking, while we're living on a garden planet... I even appreciate how Elizabeth described early herbalism studies as taking capsules or pills filled with herbs but not knowing the origin or not growing them yourselves... and we're seeing this return in our creating of garden life everywhere.
@lynnroots75562 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this Ana and Deborah. I’m just seeing it now ( may 2024 ) … since I am new to your work and meeting you ! I find it so important and fascinating My Venus is in Virgo ( 12th H ) I’m just learning the dramatic importance of the angles ( Frank has called my attention to them ) And I’m very excited to study this ! I’m a beginner … although a throughly immersed , enthralled and utterly determined beginner!! 🧚🏻♀️So I thank you both again ! 💞L xxx May 10th 2024 Oh yes …. I so relate to the fact that “many” of my books , I’ve not been ready to understand and appreciate They have had to be patient with me to come back to them … like good true friends My moon is in Taurus ( 8thH)… It’s not wise to try and rush me …. It just backfires !!!
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Hello! 😊 Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I will be starting a course on the Houses in June. If you’d like to join, just let me know.
@don-eb3fj2 ай бұрын
@33:30 : "I can't help but feel that we've got it all wrong, from the point of view that...yin energy has been devalued...and because we've...devalued yin energy, we're not making the best use of yang energy either...so yang energy has also been let down...no one wins on this one...'Hello, you're missing the point' ;the point is balance. It's not about ...constant interventions...to control, to push, to coerce- Sit. Listen. Watch. Learn..." 👏👏👏👏👏💙❤️🔥 THIS is what I came here for, to learn, teach, and live this simple lesson and most profound philosophy. The Centaurs Chiron and Chariklo are the perfect representatives to carry this message to all of us who have been wounded and cheated by the myth of "progress", and these words, so perfectly spoken, will be the breath and heartbeat of my own message going forward. Thank you, Ana, the gift of peace this inspires is beyond priceless.
@ShaunaMarieSings2 ай бұрын
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@11ZEPHYR672 ай бұрын
Believe it or not (being an occasional watcher of Ana's channel) I am not interested in knowing about the afterlife or the future, (but get great value out of the talks) I'm quite content to stay in the Present and appreciate and learn what my 'path' is showing me, but no problem with anyone else looking into this area. As I neared the end of the video, I went into the transcript to look for the Carl Jung quote which resonated with me, and just as I pressed the "Transcript" button I heard Ana ask Anne if she would mind repeating the quote again. This is the synchronicity I believe is Life / Source itself, and when we honour our path and life we become "in-tune" with it, which includes intuition, "coincidences", timing and many other forms of guidance / help. Astrology and Tarot etc, may be tools to tap into this guidance too, but life is such a mystery which maybe is part of the deal, maybe some things we are just not meant to know? Life is magical when we pay attention to what it is trying to show us in the Present. Here's the quote which I think sums up much better what I attempted to say;; "Learn your theories as well as you can but there comes a point when you need to set them to one side and be in the presence of the mystery of the living soul." Thank you for a fascinating conversation, blessings!
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your insights. I love the quote! You are so right that we need to appreciate the mystery and wonder of life!
@anya-ida_2 ай бұрын
It has been an honor, thank you very much to both of you!
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Thank you!💕
@bonniewaters8882 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kelley and Ana for this important and fascinating discussion on Lilith! I think that women, especially, feel the depth of her presence and perhaps hidden meaning in ancient writings. Thank you, Ana, for allowing me to put forth some ideas on the subject...here goes... I know it is a bit complex, but these are some theories I've developed (with over 15 years of research) in writings pertinent to the evolution of the meaning and personage/“personality” of Lilith. In the cuneiform texts of Mesopotamia (Sumer, Assyria and Babylonia), long before the Jewish use of the name, Lilith, "lilitu" meant "spirit or demon". In Isaiah, it is thought to mean a night creature, night bird, or specifically, a screech owl. Other interpretations make her a night demon. In the Talmud, the name is associated with “mother of demons”, which in that text may, as you both have said, be related to ideas of Nature as a feminine spirit of storms, screaming like a banshee (like the howling wind) and other fierce and fearsome qualities of the night. It isn’t until later Jewish folklore, such as the Alphabet of Sirach (c. 700-1000 AD), where Lilith was said to be Adam's first wife, banished from the Garden of Eden for her hubris in wanting to be above her partner (yes, some interpret this as biting satire in this text, in sexual terms, but likely also a reference to the status of the feminine in relation to masculine - how dare anyone put her above him? (Which perhaps makes sense when you hear the rest of it.) I have a theory that Lilith was a reference, in later rabbinical and other Jewish writings, to a certain feminine from Christianity, who in a very complicated way, may also be connected to Islam, a religion which arose in the region in the early 600’s. These later Jewish texts (Ben Sirach, the Zohar, etc.) in my mind, were meant to convey certain truths, but in a very covert way. Speaking truth was often dangerous in these times. Rabbinical satire often used words with layers of meaning, and they would have chosen this word/name for its many meanings. Certainly, in disparaging this feminine, we can see the early meanings of the word used as satirical remarks - night creature, night hag, mother of demons, etc. In her banishment to the desert, living like a night bird in desert caves, the name might also be seen as a play on the Blessed Night of Islam, the Night (LAYLATUL) of Power (Qadr), the night that God first revealed teachings of the Quran to Muhammad (the Praiseworthy One) through Archangel Gabriel (Jibril) in a cave on Mount Hira. Where exactly were the relics of a certain feminine from early Christianity at the time? No one speaks of her relics - except, I would propose, in hidden references. Around the time of the Diaspora that followed the First Jewish War and then, moreso, the eventual failure of the Bar Kochba Revolt and the failure of the Jewish Independence from Rome, when Jerusalem and its sacred places were demolished, she had been disparaged in rabbinical satire as Mary M’gaddla (the hairdresser - one step up from prostitution), and other similarly negative accounts. Also refering to her son, Jesus ben Stada (or Jesus ben Pandera), "No, his mother was Miriam, who let her hair grow long and was called Stada. Pumbedita says about her: 'She was unfaithful to her husband'." Some Mandaean texts relate that Mary (the other Mary? - or...maybe not), was “abducted” by a man to Persia (King Cyrus?). Could this have been in his conquering of Jerusalem in 614 CE, when the "True Cross" was stolen from the Holy City by the Persians? This relic was triumphantly returned to Jerusalem by Heraclius in 630 CE. Maybe other sacred relics were also involved (or was this a secret name for these relics?) Was she also taken by the Saracens when they conquered Jerusalem several years later, around 637 CE? Why did qibla (Islamic direction of prayer) which was originally the Temple Mount, change to Mecca after 18 months? What reason, what was moved? There are interesting stories about Sophronius, bishop of Jerusalem (of Arab descent), and his interactions with the Saracen leader, Umar, to whom he gave the keys of the Holy City. Umar was said to have entered the city dressed in an old tunic (tunics are garb of the high priests) rather than the finery of pompous ones (the Byzantines?). Umar, the conqueror who was cheered by the people of Jerusalem, Jews, Arabs, and Christians alike, who greatly admired this ascetic figure (despite the accounts of having been starved into submission by Umar's armies?) In the Covenant of Umar, all three faiths of the "People of the Book" were under the protection of the Muslims - a friendly arrangement, indeed. Patriarchy diminished the feminine, generally. Judaism moreso diminished the feminine in, you might say, “competing” belief systems. Mary Magdalene had a much more powerful role in these faiths than we have understood. This is why she was demonized by those who opposed her. (Note the long red tresses of the naked Lilith in paintings by John Collier and others - do we see a resemblance to the long-haired and naked Penitent Magdalene?) Stories propose that Lilith was banished from the Garden. The Four Tannaim (Jewish Sages) ascended to the Orchard/Paradis, presumably from or within the Holy of Holies in the Jewish Temple). Did rabbinical satire propose that the Magdalene had been banished from the Holy Temple? Just a few ideas to chew on. Please investigate for yourself. So much that points to the hidden Sacred Feminine in the Abrahamic faiths. It is time for restoration of the woman at the "heart" of Christianity. ❤ I know this is a lot. Take what resonates. If you made it to the end, thank you!
@lifeastrologer2 ай бұрын
Thank you so my for sharing you research and studies with us. It’s so wonderful that you could add to our conversation.
@bonniewaters8882 ай бұрын
@@lifeastrologer Thanks so much for allowing me to do so. ❤
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Hello, how can i contact you for an interview for chanel "Sinergias Holisticas" ?. thanks.
Hi Dear! Greetings from Brazil
❤ great dialogue Thank you both 💞L xxx July 8th 2024
Brilliant dialogue Ana And I love your guest Martin S Moritz I have lots to learn here from both of you 💞L xxx July 8th 11:13🌞Monday I love that line “ trying to drown one’s sorrows … only to discover they’ve learned to swim “. Oh my !!!
"Psychic mantle" is what Kriyananda called it. He said that I was having communication with Shelly's "psychic mantle." So the astrology of the psychic mantle remains. But, meme is fun.
Fantastic conversation, I was enthralled, it’s one of my favourite subject. I have recently got a copy of Liz Greene book and I’m so looking forward to reading it. Much love ❤
Hi Ana - I just discovered your channel and these interviews are absolutely phenomenal! Your questions are intelligent and informed and you get to the heart of things in a very deep and meaningful way. I am a decently knowledgeable amateur astrologer and I am drinking this all in and learning soooo much! You contribute to the conversation at least as much as your guests. Thank you and keep it coming. Blessings be for you. 🙏🌀💛
Ana, You are truly one of my favorites….. you are so knowledgeable and real and I’m so grateful for you sharing all your wisdom and practices along with all your guests that you interview who are just as wonderful!
Oh this was just wonderful!! Ive only just recently heard Martin speak and instantly loved what he had to share and even more so here. My Venus is in Aries too and I was born with my SN and Neptune conjunct my DC and this whole conversation was just super awrsome to hear. Oh this was just wonderful!! Ive only just recently heard Martin speak and instantly loved what he had to share and even more so here. My Venus is in Aries too😂 I was born with my SN and Neptune conjunct my DC and this whole conversation was just super awesome to hear but Ana Isabel "My Sorrows have learned to swim" made my Pisces self think🤯🤣. Things are slippery to catch and Pisces World but I am totally putting that phrase inside my fishing tackle box🤔🥰🤩
This was great!
Fascinating conversation, thank you to both of you lovely people. <3
thank you so much!!
Thank you for touching on this subject!🙏 I am an identical twin. My sister and I have our sun in Libra and our mercury in Scorpio. We are very close and I also agree with what you mentioned about one twin using more of one planet etc. How Liz Greene has explained it. What I found to be very interesting is mercury Saturn tends to be a signature of a only child. My sister and I have an older brother who is only 22months older. He has Saturn mercury conjunction in Leo. He treated us like we were less than..or that he disapproved of us. All we wanted was his approval. He was slightly favoured by our parents but that wasn’t something that bothered us. Maybe he would of been happier if he was an only child 😔.
If one knows they are having a terrible time thru a Pluto transit... i think that's great and thank goodness! 🍁💫
Such a valuable conversation. Thank you Ana,🔆
I appreciate your sharing thank you.
Good discussion. Social alienation due to striving for or orienting life around some new ideal can lead to greater individuation and individuality. It often does. Uranus is not about a group over all other considerations. Its about idea over relationship. It sacrifices groups and personal relationships for the ideal. Many transits and charts do not support the contention of Liz Greene's that Uranus is about group over individuality. Nice point by Jean Marc re Uranus as raw energy. Not a conscious energy. So many in astrology take the planets too far and get idolatrous with them and deify and ascribe consciousness to what is inanimate and has no free will. Nice point at the end re Uranus as the provocateur, asking humanity - who are you? Just programmable automatons?
Your explanation of Uranus makes my Uranus in the 4th house make more sense. I've always felt this movement away from the importance of individuality towards something more collectively-minded. At the same time, I think it probably made me overlook some of my true individuality until I grew up a bit, I wonder does Uranus itself cause issues like that when placed in a house so angular and lets say, 'personal'? I can certainly see how I can benefit society by being socially conscious/aware, but it's as if I've needed to work on my individuality in order to understand how I could frame it better. I can see how some of those Uranus concerns overshadowed a need for individuality, which is quite interesting and worth knowing as it helps in terms of personal evolution.
Maybe this is a bit off-track but another side of it I find interesting is I am a Leo and have a stellium there. I have these Uranus impulses, though I actually don't know how to express them in a very Aquarian way, but I know that I want to reach out and connect, given that Uranus is in my roots, that energy. But me as a Leo, I need to do it from somewhere that's very personal. A poem, a song, a sudden burst of expression through dance, I am good at leading the way with my own body/voice. I can be outspoken but it comes from my own heart, not what others have told me to say. I'm not good at being someone reading off a collective manifesto or repeating a chant, I need to be an individual burning with a personal passion. And yet... it is often guided by that personal impulse to connect on a collective level, breathe life into the world.
Thank you for having me Isabel! We could have carried on and on, I had other ideas popping up in my mind after we talked!
Appreciate the Liz Greene definition of uranus that you read
Bonjour Jean-Marc Merci beaucoup
C'est moi qui vous remercie!
Progression carries destruction within itself. One can beautify the term and call it "transformation" and sing that energy can't be destroyed, it just changes form. Maybe that what happened to the Neanderthals, they just changed form. Would you rather be a Neanderthal or a homo sapien? Sure from spiritual point of view, all incarnation are "valuable" or whatever. Fetuses extracting nutrients from the mothers body leaving her deficient if she didn't take care of herself is also the new that will emerge at the expense of the old if necessary. Where is your infant or child body? It has been destroyed and you inhabit a new form now, your adult body. Progression. We may not know if the outcome is going to be favorable, but I guess favorable to who? Is the question. Eventually homo sapiens will go extinct. Moving forward to the future stars now, for sure.
A note: Uranus conjunct my Asc in Sag
Great subject for the times. Your comment about Behaviorism and programmable humans immediately connected me with a comment by World Economic Forum mouthpiece Juval Noah Harrari in his anti-humanist thesis about humans being "hackable animals". Maybe we should take up a collection for gas money for Elan's shiny spaceship, put all the technocrats on it, and send them all home to Mars, since they apparently all hate everything here and are doing their best to turn Earth into their "home away from home". Just have to make sure they only have enough fuel for a one-way trip. Or : "Gee whiz, we forgot to account for the sun's gravitational pull, looks like Icarus is gonna get a little lesson about Solar power- oops."
Great topic & discussion ...! !
You two help me mellow out 💞.
10:52 excellent quote from Anne! great exchanges around Jung's projections (including projections astrologers could accidently make! (am glad you both were brave enough to become astrologers! lol) ... great example at the end from Anne illustrating family complexes and how astrology can help us work with these for the better & Ana your seminar sounded amazing! Those Centaurs are piquing my interest after watching your vid with Melanie Reinhart ... interesting how you've delved into family complexes ... have literally just found one of them popping up in a good few family composite & a synastry chart!! much #gratitude as ever
So interesting Melanie! Your comment about Chiron and Kronos rings so true for me. I have Chiron and Kronos (Saturn) conjunct in my 6th house. I have always felt that I have and will be on my own. Yes I have parents but did but feel their presence in my life.
Absolutely the love the syncs Melanie got around Chariklo & the way she learned astrology!!! looking forward to this book!
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Thank you Ray and Ana This is absolutely fascinating and I have no doubt that since everything is energy …… our charts are integrated with our soul …. Which merely changes form Thank you both 💞L xxx May 29th 2024
Love Steven Forrest. 😊
I absolutely love my 12th house planets. Ha! I have 6 planets in the 12th.
Kelley, thank you so much for your animated and lively rendering of these sky characters. So grateful for your dedication and creativity. I can’t wait for the next installment of “the lives of the KB O’s” 👏♾️👏♾️🌟👏🌟🎶🎶🎶
Wonderful discussion, thank you both so much for sharing your wisdom and information.
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i love Kelley Hunter thank you! she is so wisdom
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Oh such rich conversation! I delight in Kelley's ability to story tell and weave truely sparkling✨thank you Ana !
Please double check real data and observations of the balls of light a few hundred miles in the sky. Not light years etc..
If you are referring to an alternate view of our Earth realm under the firmament, I am in deep consideration of this.
Yes!!! I need some inspiration today! Thank you! 🙏✨️
I'm really hoping to gain more insight at the uranus/Jupiter conjunction. It was conjunct my chiron in Taurus directly at 21°. My chiron is the apex of a double yod as well. My mid life transits have also been happening. It's been a lot.
This Saturn in Pisces has reunited my fiancé with his estranged father. Both have Mars in Pisces. My fiancés Saturn is also in Pisces. How beautiful is that?
Wow! Just beautiful! Thank you for sharing this!😊
Thank you, Ana, for the interesting conversation! Your channel is a treasure trove of astrology. ❤
Thank you so much! I am very blessed to be able to share these wonderful conversations with everyone!
How is this possibly flying under the radar???? Diamonds and rubies and pearls of relevant ways we can heal ourselves in the world...
I suspect because we have been seduced into believing man made chemicals are superior to what nature offers. Nothing could be further from the truth! I’m glad you found this wonderful conversation!😊
@@lifeastrologer Oh no, we have not been seduced and I've seen many friends leave the planet, my father included, by being poisoned by synthetic drugs and chemicals in the guise of healing medicine... I think it is the delusional spell of our corporate capitalistic over lords that lure us into sleep walking, while we're living on a garden planet... I even appreciate how Elizabeth described early herbalism studies as taking capsules or pills filled with herbs but not knowing the origin or not growing them yourselves... and we're seeing this return in our creating of garden life everywhere.
Thank you very much for this Ana and Deborah. I’m just seeing it now ( may 2024 ) … since I am new to your work and meeting you ! I find it so important and fascinating My Venus is in Virgo ( 12th H ) I’m just learning the dramatic importance of the angles ( Frank has called my attention to them ) And I’m very excited to study this ! I’m a beginner … although a throughly immersed , enthralled and utterly determined beginner!! 🧚🏻♀️So I thank you both again ! 💞L xxx May 10th 2024 Oh yes …. I so relate to the fact that “many” of my books , I’ve not been ready to understand and appreciate They have had to be patient with me to come back to them … like good true friends My moon is in Taurus ( 8thH)… It’s not wise to try and rush me …. It just backfires !!!
Hello! 😊 Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I will be starting a course on the Houses in June. If you’d like to join, just let me know.
@33:30 : "I can't help but feel that we've got it all wrong, from the point of view that...yin energy has been devalued...and because we've...devalued yin energy, we're not making the best use of yang energy either...so yang energy has also been let down...no one wins on this one...'Hello, you're missing the point' ;the point is balance. It's not about ...constant interventions...to control, to push, to coerce- Sit. Listen. Watch. Learn..." 👏👏👏👏👏💙❤️🔥 THIS is what I came here for, to learn, teach, and live this simple lesson and most profound philosophy. The Centaurs Chiron and Chariklo are the perfect representatives to carry this message to all of us who have been wounded and cheated by the myth of "progress", and these words, so perfectly spoken, will be the breath and heartbeat of my own message going forward. Thank you, Ana, the gift of peace this inspires is beyond priceless.
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Believe it or not (being an occasional watcher of Ana's channel) I am not interested in knowing about the afterlife or the future, (but get great value out of the talks) I'm quite content to stay in the Present and appreciate and learn what my 'path' is showing me, but no problem with anyone else looking into this area. As I neared the end of the video, I went into the transcript to look for the Carl Jung quote which resonated with me, and just as I pressed the "Transcript" button I heard Ana ask Anne if she would mind repeating the quote again. This is the synchronicity I believe is Life / Source itself, and when we honour our path and life we become "in-tune" with it, which includes intuition, "coincidences", timing and many other forms of guidance / help. Astrology and Tarot etc, may be tools to tap into this guidance too, but life is such a mystery which maybe is part of the deal, maybe some things we are just not meant to know? Life is magical when we pay attention to what it is trying to show us in the Present. Here's the quote which I think sums up much better what I attempted to say;; "Learn your theories as well as you can but there comes a point when you need to set them to one side and be in the presence of the mystery of the living soul." Thank you for a fascinating conversation, blessings!
Thank you so much for your insights. I love the quote! You are so right that we need to appreciate the mystery and wonder of life!
It has been an honor, thank you very much to both of you!
Thank you!💕
Thank you, Kelley and Ana for this important and fascinating discussion on Lilith! I think that women, especially, feel the depth of her presence and perhaps hidden meaning in ancient writings. Thank you, Ana, for allowing me to put forth some ideas on the subject...here goes... I know it is a bit complex, but these are some theories I've developed (with over 15 years of research) in writings pertinent to the evolution of the meaning and personage/“personality” of Lilith. In the cuneiform texts of Mesopotamia (Sumer, Assyria and Babylonia), long before the Jewish use of the name, Lilith, "lilitu" meant "spirit or demon". In Isaiah, it is thought to mean a night creature, night bird, or specifically, a screech owl. Other interpretations make her a night demon. In the Talmud, the name is associated with “mother of demons”, which in that text may, as you both have said, be related to ideas of Nature as a feminine spirit of storms, screaming like a banshee (like the howling wind) and other fierce and fearsome qualities of the night. It isn’t until later Jewish folklore, such as the Alphabet of Sirach (c. 700-1000 AD), where Lilith was said to be Adam's first wife, banished from the Garden of Eden for her hubris in wanting to be above her partner (yes, some interpret this as biting satire in this text, in sexual terms, but likely also a reference to the status of the feminine in relation to masculine - how dare anyone put her above him? (Which perhaps makes sense when you hear the rest of it.) I have a theory that Lilith was a reference, in later rabbinical and other Jewish writings, to a certain feminine from Christianity, who in a very complicated way, may also be connected to Islam, a religion which arose in the region in the early 600’s. These later Jewish texts (Ben Sirach, the Zohar, etc.) in my mind, were meant to convey certain truths, but in a very covert way. Speaking truth was often dangerous in these times. Rabbinical satire often used words with layers of meaning, and they would have chosen this word/name for its many meanings. Certainly, in disparaging this feminine, we can see the early meanings of the word used as satirical remarks - night creature, night hag, mother of demons, etc. In her banishment to the desert, living like a night bird in desert caves, the name might also be seen as a play on the Blessed Night of Islam, the Night (LAYLATUL) of Power (Qadr), the night that God first revealed teachings of the Quran to Muhammad (the Praiseworthy One) through Archangel Gabriel (Jibril) in a cave on Mount Hira. Where exactly were the relics of a certain feminine from early Christianity at the time? No one speaks of her relics - except, I would propose, in hidden references. Around the time of the Diaspora that followed the First Jewish War and then, moreso, the eventual failure of the Bar Kochba Revolt and the failure of the Jewish Independence from Rome, when Jerusalem and its sacred places were demolished, she had been disparaged in rabbinical satire as Mary M’gaddla (the hairdresser - one step up from prostitution), and other similarly negative accounts. Also refering to her son, Jesus ben Stada (or Jesus ben Pandera), "No, his mother was Miriam, who let her hair grow long and was called Stada. Pumbedita says about her: 'She was unfaithful to her husband'." Some Mandaean texts relate that Mary (the other Mary? - or...maybe not), was “abducted” by a man to Persia (King Cyrus?). Could this have been in his conquering of Jerusalem in 614 CE, when the "True Cross" was stolen from the Holy City by the Persians? This relic was triumphantly returned to Jerusalem by Heraclius in 630 CE. Maybe other sacred relics were also involved (or was this a secret name for these relics?) Was she also taken by the Saracens when they conquered Jerusalem several years later, around 637 CE? Why did qibla (Islamic direction of prayer) which was originally the Temple Mount, change to Mecca after 18 months? What reason, what was moved? There are interesting stories about Sophronius, bishop of Jerusalem (of Arab descent), and his interactions with the Saracen leader, Umar, to whom he gave the keys of the Holy City. Umar was said to have entered the city dressed in an old tunic (tunics are garb of the high priests) rather than the finery of pompous ones (the Byzantines?). Umar, the conqueror who was cheered by the people of Jerusalem, Jews, Arabs, and Christians alike, who greatly admired this ascetic figure (despite the accounts of having been starved into submission by Umar's armies?) In the Covenant of Umar, all three faiths of the "People of the Book" were under the protection of the Muslims - a friendly arrangement, indeed. Patriarchy diminished the feminine, generally. Judaism moreso diminished the feminine in, you might say, “competing” belief systems. Mary Magdalene had a much more powerful role in these faiths than we have understood. This is why she was demonized by those who opposed her. (Note the long red tresses of the naked Lilith in paintings by John Collier and others - do we see a resemblance to the long-haired and naked Penitent Magdalene?) Stories propose that Lilith was banished from the Garden. The Four Tannaim (Jewish Sages) ascended to the Orchard/Paradis, presumably from or within the Holy of Holies in the Jewish Temple). Did rabbinical satire propose that the Magdalene had been banished from the Holy Temple? Just a few ideas to chew on. Please investigate for yourself. So much that points to the hidden Sacred Feminine in the Abrahamic faiths. It is time for restoration of the woman at the "heart" of Christianity. ❤ I know this is a lot. Take what resonates. If you made it to the end, thank you!
Thank you so my for sharing you research and studies with us. It’s so wonderful that you could add to our conversation.
@@lifeastrologer Thanks so much for allowing me to do so. ❤