Apparently Fincher instructed Lynch to play this scene like he believed he was totally innocent, and the more innocent he played it the guiltier he seemed.

John Carol Lynch is a treasure. A true blue, workman actor who just knocks it out every time.

@Dial999

2 жыл бұрын

He was really good in The Founder

@amralkhatib5031

2 жыл бұрын

i think he is the killer xD

@kaij98673

2 жыл бұрын

Are you Australian

@nicksambides2628

2 жыл бұрын

If you want to see him playing a character who was a polar opposite of Leigh, try From the Earth to the Moon.

@joepagram8287

Жыл бұрын

@@nicksambides2628 I’d argue his polar opposite character was Eastman from the walking dead but will have to check yours out!

Lynch is one of my favorite actors of all time! Also love his voice drop when he says: "I'm not the Zodiac. And if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell you."

@mkrny111

Жыл бұрын

So true.. plus he mentioned the neighbor who saw him, but who died a week later..???.. the knifes I had in my car..what????😂😂☹️

@tonyc7301

8 ай бұрын

The voice drop makes it identical to the calls from the Zodiac during the movie.

David Fincher, master of tension. He toys with the audience just like Leigh Allen does with the detectives.

@lobomalsano

8 ай бұрын

I always wonderer why he didnt just stand up and leave if the officers made him uncomfortable, and thats because he was burning time until his break

@dr.loomis4221

7 ай бұрын

He's overrated

@rhinocort1184

7 ай бұрын

He’s so good in The Invitation

@eyeseer1

Ай бұрын

David Fincher deserves his Oscar.

I love the squeaking of the chairs every time that one of them re-adjusts. It makes this scene that much more realistic and tense.

@justicedemocrat9357

8 ай бұрын

As opposed to the chairs not squeaking?

@Rockypier719

8 ай бұрын

@@justicedemocrat9357 yes?

@MrWickHaHaBobayega

7 ай бұрын

Think I heard the chair squeak once

@Rockypier719

7 ай бұрын

@@MrWickHaHaBobayega this clip was obviously shortened compared to the actual movie. There are more chair noises in the first few moments of meeting Arthur, which they didn’t show here.

@patriceaqa288

7 ай бұрын

@@Rockypier719 Arthur Leigh was one hundred percent the killer of the five confirmed Zodiac murders. He just got away with it. The rest of the attributed killings and cryptic messages we'll never know

John Carroll Lynch is a rare actor, his portrayal as Arthur is just so damn riveting, it makes you wonder if he is the Zodiac or not. Aside from this, I definitely enjoyed his performance as Eastman in TWD, the barber in Gran Torino, and Mac McDonald in the Founder.

@Yeetuspoket

Жыл бұрын

He’s also amazing is AHS: Freak Show as Twisty the Clown :)

@thomasupton2664

Жыл бұрын

Norm in Fargo

@jodyneal4969

Жыл бұрын

Watched the Founder last night

@LJGreni

Жыл бұрын

Drew Carey's brother in The Drew Carey Show.

@darkwizard2651

8 ай бұрын

Jimmy’s dad in “Bubble Boy.”

If you're someone who hasn't seen the film, this scene might sound kind of boring if someone were to describe it to you. And then you watch it, and it's one of the most compelling and chilling scenes of the entire film. The direction and reaction shots are sharper than a blade. The irony is that John Carroll Lynch played the docile portrait painting husband of Marge Gunderson the detective in "Fargo." Talk about two ends of the spectrum. Acting greatness.

@deltaskelta7286

7 ай бұрын

eyy margy!

@dannyc7227

7 ай бұрын

@@deltaskelta7286, gotta have breakfast, Marge.

@user-gj3nh4nl6w

7 ай бұрын

And yet another end of "the spectrum" was his portrayal of Drew Carey's brother.

Losing McDonald's really changed him forever.

@Tom_Van_Zandt

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know that movie existed 'til about a month ago when a video popped up in my recommendeds on YT.

@jennatolls904

Жыл бұрын

after closing shop in the mid 50’s he moved up north and began his murder spree.

@ejvaldes

Жыл бұрын

😂 Good one

@stanleyconnor6898

8 ай бұрын

Perfect remark! 😂

@jasonduvall5467

8 ай бұрын

Or marrying mimi

This was masterful use of cameras . . . the detectives looking at each other, then switching to forward facing angles to create a more confronting, suspicious atmosphere that the Zodiac picks up on, with the audience. Just, so well done.

@aleksar6755

8 ай бұрын

you are masterful camera use enjoyer

@censorbleep3018

8 ай бұрын

@@aleksar6755 That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day.

@DeathRecon

7 ай бұрын

Allegedly the zodiac

I love how they keep calling him Arthur after he specifically says that no one calls him that, that everyone calls him Lee.

"I'm not the Zodiac, and if I was I certainly wouldn't tell you" That line makes me laugh and kills me everytime I hear it. Great movie btw.

This is a great movie. The way it was directed was so good, it was creepy and unsettling as it should be, considering the content.

@frankbolander2239

Жыл бұрын

I LIKED THE MOVIE BUT SADLY IT WAS A WORK OF MOSTLY FICTION!

@drinny2214

8 ай бұрын

@@frankbolander2239explain

@SimpleFoosball

7 ай бұрын

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1Shut up.

@lobomalsano

5 ай бұрын

In the end, it wasnt the person this guy was playing who did it. This guy was only a weirdo that wanted atention pretending to be the zodiac. The actual zodiac was a guy with last name Poste who was in the army. This was recently proved with dna tests that werent available at the time

@islambale747

4 ай бұрын

Nothing unsettling or creepy about these kinds of people once you've walked in their shoes.

I love where the camera is in this scene Visual storytelling at his finest.

The way JCL changes his voice when he says 'I'm not the Zodiac, and if I was I certainly wouldn't tell you' so chilling. One of the greatest actors of them al;.

2:18 I love that thud sound in the background when it cuts to Bill

One of the most underrated films in Fincher's filmography.

@7XL9

Жыл бұрын

best one tbh

@joepagram8287

Жыл бұрын

@@7XL9 agreed

@nordicgaming2572

Жыл бұрын

It's a fine movie but far from the best he has to offer. He needs to do more movies with Brad Pitt if you ask me.

@NormAppleton

9 ай бұрын

Best thing he ever did

@Pytho_n

8 ай бұрын

Fincher's best 3 are Seven, Fight Club and Zodiac. I prefer Zodiac and consider it to be a masterpiece.

Great scene, I personally get the feeling that the killer is actually enjoying the conversation. He knows the police have no evidence and enjoys playing with them. He feels that he is above them intellectually, which gives him satisfaction.

@turkeyman631

7 ай бұрын

Yeah a lot of criminals believe themselves to be the smartest person in the room and I think it's a reason why a lot of the ones who get caught actually get caught.

@slyguythreeonetwonine3172

6 ай бұрын

Probably because he was.

This intervention feel so intense thanks to their top notch acting

@yeahseven

2 жыл бұрын

Interview*

@deenigeechte387

Жыл бұрын

No, it's an intervention. Dominic Palladino was there.

@anthony1289

Жыл бұрын

@@yeahseven you understood what he meant 😅

@eradict

9 ай бұрын

​@@yeahseven autocorrespondence

@francisdaly1757

8 ай бұрын

I've said my piece Chrissy

John Carrol Lynch is such an underrated actor. He can play the goofy Norm Gunderson from "Fargo" then switch gears and play this creepy and even somewhat intimidating character. He deserves more credit.

By all the evidence they got from this Interview It's insane that he wasn't framed

@joewoods5514

2 жыл бұрын

I’m intrigued why they didn’t frame him tbh

@deeryune

2 жыл бұрын

@@joewoods5514 Because all of the "evidence" was circumstantial. They couldn't prove anything concrete at the end of the day. And his prints/DNA match came out as a negative. It's mind-blowing how many things pointed to him being the Zodiac tho...

@fatboy4139

2 жыл бұрын

@@deeryune Especially now that Poste was identified as likely being the killer. Makes you wonder what was up with Leigh Allen.

@kingarthur8616

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatboy4139 maybe there was one than one killer?

@who7063

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatboy4139 poste is bs suspect

Fincher makes thrillers like no one. Se7en is the best to this day

@Adriana-eu6ty

9 ай бұрын

He is an amazing director. The social network is a masterpiece too.

@bruhmoment1761

8 ай бұрын

Gone girl was so insanely good as well

@eyeseer1

Ай бұрын

The Game is great, but Gone Girl is superb.

What a scene. You can feel the culpability leaping off the screen. As a layman you can feel it so these detectives inner sirens must've been off the charts haha

This movie is perfection, everything from the acting, dialogue, cinematography, tension, pacing is done masterfully, Finchers best film.

@hugh-jasole

8 ай бұрын

Fight Club, Zodiac and Social Network are Fincher's masterpieces

@now_is_past

3 ай бұрын

dont forget se7en@@hugh-jasole

That voice change is some of the best acting ive ever seen. The way he reads the room after the allecations is remarkable stuff.

One of the best directed and edited scenes I have ever seen. Ever!

The level of skill at balancing the screen, at using blocking of characters to communicate power, and the color scheme throughout Zodiac is akin to looking at a painting by an old master. One cannot help but be gobsmacked by the perfection. He makes it look simple, but it is so brilliant and complex.

Phenomenal movie, I have watched it at least 5 times and I always find new details and layers to peel.

Great fucking performance. He was obviously told to behave like he was the Zodiac and hiding it, but also told to make it unsure. He nailed it 100%. Truly incredible.

@Kupferdrahtful

8 ай бұрын

Feel like the movie makes it very clear who the zodiac is

@Spitsworth

8 ай бұрын

@@Kupferdrahtful Yes, it does. But there is also a lot of evidence in real life which shows Arthur was not the Zodiac. The truth is that we will never know. The true Zodiac is probably dead and will never be caught.

@poodook

7 ай бұрын

@@Spitsworthkind of like with the Jon Benet murder. It will never be truly solved “beyond a reasonable doubt”

@theprettyme1743

3 ай бұрын

@@Spitsworth How do you know it’s not Arthur?😂 The case is still up and he is still the prime suspect.

Mark Ruffalo is such a natural actor. In this scene he's not saying much but his body language is portraying a heavy measage. What a talented man!

@dannyc7227

7 ай бұрын

Check him out in the “Foxcatcher.” That’s of course if you haven’t already seen it. He plays a lumbering happy-go-lucky hippie type, who is also a badass Olympic wrestler, based off the real life of Mark Schultz. Steve Carrel does an amazing job in that film as well. 👍

@cockoffgewgle4993

7 ай бұрын

He's Italian, what do you expect?

@Djp2987

7 ай бұрын

hes a liberal puppet

That's some great acting there

This scene and the basment part just the realization on everybody's face

Awesome scene! Love how the Detective sees his ankle when he's posturing. Dave can DIRECT a scene!!!!!

This guy crushed this scene. Every time I see him, this is the first thing I think of.

I went to the theatre to see this movie thinking it was another "Seven-like" movie... I was a teen and I got so disappointed at the moment. Few years later I saw it back on TV and it blew my mind. Loved it. It amazes me to this day how could I had such a different opinion of this.

The cast in this movie is so damn good.

An absolute masterpiece

This guy who played Arthur Leigh Allen is so good holy shit

David Fincher is easily one of my favorite directors. the people who makes intense thrillers as good as him are very few. I only wish he would bring Mindhunter back as that show was fucking PHENOMENAL.

This movie is so good in every aspect; besides the main plot you can see how each character in this interview life goes on: the sargent for whom this is just another case and his life goes on, the detective who is very professional until the last second but wants to get out (and eventually he does) and the other detective, the most commited one, whose life gets dragged by this end dead case.

@DanielReyes-zu8em

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. I don't think there was any flaw in this film.

@Steve.Maverick

8 ай бұрын

I felt it ended too abruptly without resolve

@jazzyhands3289

7 ай бұрын

@@Steve.Maverickjust like the real zodiac case. It was abrupt.

I first remember JCL in Fargo back in the mid-90's, guy is such a good actor, he can play subtle, he can play crazy, he can play all sorts...really versatile actor. Fincher managing to get all this content regarding the Zodiac story into about a 3 hour film - and make it interesting - was an accomplishment. I love Ruffalo's performance as Toschi, he pulled off San Francisco detective mid-70's perfectly, reminded my of my late uncle, also a detective...brilliant at reading clues, reading people, asking questions, but civil and cordial with the public...who he served faithfully for nearly 3 decades.

I love that there's no music. Just the sound of the factory and the hollow ambient noise that sounds as though these cops are speaking to Death itself, and that hollow ambient noise is really the sound of the void where all souls go.

@TheUnknownDungeon

6 ай бұрын

I have no memory of writing this comment lol wtf am I talking about

In my top 5 as a film. JCL IS A LEGEND

"You're the murder police? Hmm, better not incriminate myself. Say, did you hear about the bloody knives I keep my trunk?"

This is a phenomenal scene in a great movie just outstanding acting they don't make them like this anymore .

Anyone else think this suspect warrants further investigation?

@Flanneryschickens

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he's a lot of people's top guess!

@MapleMaf1a

Жыл бұрын

@@Flanneryschickens He commented the next line in this scene that wasn't in the video.

@mikes5637

8 ай бұрын

DNA tested from the crime materials in later years didn't match Allen. He's still considered a viable suspect but as he died before he could be charged it's still an open case.

@eyeseer1

8 ай бұрын

The scariest part is that Arthur Leigh Allen was a real person and died in Atascadero years ago. His DNA exonerated him later as a suspect despite being ID by a witness.

@vicentecastillo8352

8 ай бұрын

Zodiac could have been captured multiple times On the park after the cab driver was murder cops saw aa man looked like arthur Later, arthur if he hadnt die by a heart attack he would have answer his conection between him and darlene, the girl that got shot on 1969( the first killing) Bob vaugh and rick marshall had a conectiopn by the letter but just that... This movie shows that many theories are valied but not confirmed 100% and is so frustrating

How come every clip of this scene omits the amazing “I look forward to the day when police are no longer referred to as ‘pigs’” shade he throws on the way out of the interview?!

@scatterthewinds3126

8 ай бұрын

???

@telephonic

8 ай бұрын

@@scatterthewinds3126 He says it as he gets up off the chair to leave the interview, not sure why the uploader kept it out on this video.

@throughthelense_

8 ай бұрын

What's also interesting is that the Zodiac referred to the police as Pigs in his letters @@telephonic

I like when he says "even if I was the killer I wouldn't tell you". Exciting movie. It's based on a true story.

@geezyla1151

7 ай бұрын

Everyone knows it’s based on a true story bro

@eddievenuto1862

7 ай бұрын

@@geezyla1151 I know

he gave too much info but was never caught anyway

@fatassdogs8617

2 жыл бұрын

He is a scum bag but I don’t think he was the zodiac

@nutyyyy

Жыл бұрын

He didn't say some of what's in this interview. He didn't wear the shoes either.

@stellarwind1946

Жыл бұрын

@@nutyyyy a lot of circumstantial evidence implicated Allen but all the forensic evidence turned up negative.

@eyeseer1

8 ай бұрын

His DNA excluded him as a suspect years later. This suspect died in 1992-1993.

@Shiggystardust

8 ай бұрын

He wasn’t the right guy anyway. Ted cruz got away with the murders and became a us senator

I love this movie. Real actors taking the piss on everyone else.

This is truly top-notch acting from all.

I love this guys range from Zodiac to AHS to The Walking Dead

Hey, Norm,how the painting comin' along? Pretty good, ya know.

“I was alone but I met a couple there..” I’ve watched this movie 100 times and this is the first time I realized that was a huge clue

@OdysseasCastaneda

8 ай бұрын

You think hes refering to the couple who got stabbed on the lake? Or what you try to say is that he likes couples that's why he choose to kill couples?

@RUdigitized

8 ай бұрын

That’s what I thought yes

@351cleavland

8 ай бұрын

Damn coincidences!

that moment at 2:13 when he drops the nice guy act is so chilling.

You really feel the suspicion with the detectives ,, amazing movie

@eyeseer1

Ай бұрын

It's a performance but the real interview was more unnerving.

@onlyiforgive5083

Ай бұрын

@@eyeseer1 it's on KZread?

I believe there were a few of them involved and Bob Vaughn may have been one of the accomplices, reason being his house had a basement etc. And at that time having a basement was rare. That scene in the film was dark & creepy. Loved the movie!

@talkswithvigy7860

Жыл бұрын

What made them think that zodiac has a basement? Watched this movie do many years ago...

@hurrdurrpothead5250

Жыл бұрын

@@talkswithvigy7860 I think the Zodiac mentioned having a basement, in one of his letters.

@sean2914

Жыл бұрын

I think Bob Vaughn was just a guy. The handwriting analyst that said the posters and letters matched was a washed up alcoholic, and Greysmith was so paranoid that he believed it was him. I think the most simple answer is that it was just Arthur Leigh Allen, but no one can prove it

@ginge641

9 ай бұрын

That's....not a reason.

@Treblaine

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't hang too much on the killer's gloating, he's playing the part of the villain. Where is a serial killer going to keep something? Up in the bedroom or TV room where there's windows people can look in or where visitors might see it? Or in a modern equivalent of a medieval dungeon: a basement. The letters were not honest admissions, they were self-indulgent ego trips. The fact that basements are rare in California is just as likely to mean he lied about having a basement as to be an accidental admission that he had a rare feature of his property. Realize this was part of him claiming to have made an explosive device that never turned up, suggesting he was only taking glee in making the authorities chase a red herring.

And if I was the Zodiac, I wouldn't tell you...

What a performance by John Carol Lynch.

This is such a realistic scene, makes you wonder if he took it directly from the notes of the detectives... Of course this is probably completely dramatized. That's what I love about Fincher, he is so good at making realistic cinema.

@cockoffgewgle4993

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say it's realistic. The guy rattles off ten pieces of incriminating evidence within 4 minute, it's practically a signed, sealed confession and the cops barely ask a question. Lol.

He had the boots, the zodiac watch, real sketchy story..😂☹️☹️☹️

He does his mannerisms very well: I don't know if John Carol Lynch gave it much thought. His voice is different, but his body movements an inflections for Leigh are spot on and he really encompasses the essence of the character. This was a very pleasing film to watch.

John C Lynch I've seen in so many pictures but never knew his name...and it seems like I've seen him pop up here and there in 100 films that past 25 years. He always does a damn good job

The time when actors dont need much CGI, Big Arms or explosions all around them to be good actors!

@gilgamesh818

2 ай бұрын

That stuff was pretty prolific in 2007.

wouldn't stand a chance in today days and age, where everything is computerize. Vallejo P.D could have shared info with other P.D and could have narrowed the suspect or suspects.

@nicksambides2628

2 жыл бұрын

This case is among the reasons why so much is computerized. The police knew they had a problem with how this was handled and learned from it.

@nutyyyy

Жыл бұрын

The big difference would be the forensics. They would have combed over the crime scene and found anything even a hair and could get DNA from it.

@m.n.s.s2825

Жыл бұрын

In today's age he would go rampant mode in School with an automatic and Probably get double the kills he achieved in 1970s

This is what happens when your mallard doesn't make it onto the three cent stamp.

4 OF THE GREATEST ACTORS TO EVER WALK THE PLANET!!

@Restorationshopyt

Жыл бұрын

Ummmm... no. What you just said is a work of fiction.

@frankbolander2239

Жыл бұрын

@@Restorationshopyt GO TO BED JUNIOR,THE ADULTS ARE CHATTING HERE!

@hefdzsyz

Жыл бұрын

@andrion waser Miracle Mile was a fun movie, although I rarely ever hear people mention it.

@351cleavland

8 ай бұрын

Wait! Carrottop was in this scene?

"I'm left handed." [camera centers on large wristwatch on left wrist of industrial worker] Surrrrre you are....

@Mourtzouphlos240

Жыл бұрын

A lot of left handed people from that generation wear their watches that way. Bill Clinton does for example. He is also responsible for more deaths than the Zodiac Killer but still...

@aditibisht22

Жыл бұрын

DUDE

@JohnnyDeur

Жыл бұрын

I know who the Zodiac really is, he's always wearing wing walker shoes and wearing zodiac memorabilia

@Restorationshopyt

Жыл бұрын

What is with the obsession with people wearing their watch on the opposite wrist of their dominant hand? I’m right handed and wear my watch on my right. Wearing it on my left would be absolutely stupid. So no, which wrist you wear your watch is NOT an indicator of which hand is dominant.

@avix007

Жыл бұрын

@@Restorationshopyt Probably because one might need to check the time while doing something with their dominant hand? Like writing or eating?

This scene is EPIC!!!!!!!!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯

One of the best movies ever made

It saddens me we will never be able to find the real zodiac killer

@NPCHSN

Ай бұрын

It’s Arthur Leigh Allen. Just because he didn’t lick the envelopes doesn’t mean he’s innocent. The police were preparing an indictment when he died.

One of the creepiest characters and so understated. He’s hilariously creepy.

I’ve seen this scene a million times, and am just now noticing the watch says Zodiac, which is why Arthur’s fidgeting with it when being interrogated. I always assumed they focused on it because Arthur says he’s left handed yet he’s wearing it on his left hand, and most people wear it on the opposite hand they use. You could look at it with all of that in mind I guess. So many subtle clues showing that Arthur is lying.

John Carol Lynch perfect zodiac

One of my favourite scenes from the Offices very own Kevin

This was a great movie 😊

I'm left handed and I wear my watch on the left hand too. It's just a legacy habit learned from living in a right hander's world. It doesn't mean anything.

He should play Judge Holden in a Blood Meridian movie!

All great actor's

This man here is the zodiac killer

@Ramsy477

Жыл бұрын

😂

@captaindeadpool2655

Жыл бұрын

I know! He's literally in the movie! This actor is the serial killer. I'll get him somehow!!!

@JohnnyDeur

Жыл бұрын

@@captaindeadpool2655 don't be a smartarse

@managers6667

Жыл бұрын

all the suspects are copycat killers

Fincher’s best by a country mile.

0:54, every one of us have had some nutcase say something like that to us in life, scary shi..

Wow. Mimics a sociopath so well.

Hiya Norm! ...I thought you were going ice fishing down at Melex?

Yeah John Carol Lynch was creepy as heck in Gothika lol good actor

I firmly believe Leigh Allen was Zodiac - ONE of them, at least. Zodiac being more than one person just makes more sense. Why handwriting evidence and witness descriptions of Zodiac didn't match up.

great actor.

He says he went to salt point and met a couple there. eerily similar to the Gaviota Beach incident where couple Domingos and Edwards were murdered in 1963. Both beach locations in CA and both couples.

I gotta say John carol lynch would make a great Lex luthor, the man got the height, and can look imposing, while also being able to be charming and both ruthless.

I love how they use the watch in this scene

When the hulk asks if he can see your watch, u better give it to him.

this reminds me of Cartman's Incredible Gift episode hahaha the cops are like no way it can't be him HE IS RIGHT THERE!!!!!

John carol was awesome in hbo show Carnivale

The devil lies in the details : Police 101

@dirt_xo

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

The acting! Come back Hollywood!

He seems so guilty yet so innocent as well. It’s weird😂

how the fuck did this pop up in my recommendations so fast

Musím se přiznat... Ten vrah z toho filmu je můj dvojník :D :D

Anyone else watch this as a young kid and instantly become absolutely terrified of serial killers and the fact that anyone you pass by or meet on a day to day basis could be one and you just won't know it until you seem them on the news or... you become their prey? I don't think I slept with my bedroom door unlocked for months.

@vm1974-irkutsk

7 ай бұрын

No

@gusg613

6 ай бұрын

A lock won't stop me

Thank god that one cop did not get angry

Gilgo Beach guy was very similar.