BMPCC4K, camera cage, and Zhiyun Crane 3 is one good looking combination. All of the shapes have an aesthetic that just go well together.

Great explanation! This helps a lot - I am exited about the upcoming videos. Thank you!

great tutorial, looking forwards to your next review.

Marc, thank you very much for your master class .... I am very excited about the results .... let's rock!

Thanks so much for walking us thru the balancing setup!

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped. I posting a new tut and footage for the Pocket 6K and Crane 3 soon if you're interested in that.

New to your channel - awesome video. Thanks so much.

Cannot wait for test footage!

Very thorough, thanks!!!

Great Video. Thanks!

Thank you for the video.Good Job!

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Kenneth James thank you!

Thanks for actually explaining wht u have like the small rig cage most ppl forget to mention this

good tutorial, very helpfull!

Good tips thanks! 👍🏻

Hey Marc... I tried watching a fair few before I found you, really good class, good teacher! Thanks Pal

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Much appreciated. Im glad it was to help.

Great practical video, thanks :)

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you John.

Finally!!!!!!! My crane is not vibrating no more! Now all I have to do is update my firmware and calibrate and then I can begin learning how to use this beast!

Would love to see some sizes on that one thinking of travelling:)

Thanks for this video! It saved me a lot of stress setting it up yesterday. Today I went to actually hook up my BMPCC4K to my Crane 3 and I see that the wires they sent aren't what my camera needs. It looks like I need an adapter somewhere. Do you know what wire adapters are needed?

Hi Marc, Thank you for the great tutorial! Would you be able to post some test footage of this setup any time soon?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jarkinay, I'm so sorry I just saw this now. Had a busy year filming. I will post new content and footage and keep a closer eye on my messages this year.

Awesome video and tutorial! Can you please test in the next video wireless video transmission to ZY Play app and can the BMPCC 4K be charged through Zyiun Crane 3 Lab and if so, how long would the battery last with powering the camera and crane. Thank you!

@pradeepghadi

5 жыл бұрын

me also facing those problem :-(

@willey071

5 жыл бұрын

Me also please, at the moment an expensive piece of kit to do "nothing" its advertised to do. come on Zhiyun!!!!

Thanks, and please post the video with the app and the bmpcc4k

Thank you so much, this video answered so many questions that has been on my mind about the BMPCC4K and Crane 3 except for one. Are you able to test if you can power the BMPCC4K via the crane's 8V Camera Charging Output?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Hey John I have not tried powering it that way as I save all the juice on the Crane 3 for the gimbal motors. Check out my new tut on setting up the focus and zoom motors. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIKOzbiJj9PMlNI.html

@msesteki1

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Then how do you power the camera while on the gimbal? Do you change batteries every 20-30 min and rebalance?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

msesteki no need to rebalance. The battery port is clear to open but yes batts are the way to go for an efficient balance. And CFast cards to record.

@msesteki1

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Thanks Marc! Very informative videos and your quick response really helped me in making my decision. You are the best!!!

muchas gracias

GREEEEEEEAT!!!

awesome, when are you going to post some videos with that nice set up!?!

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Deena James I will be posting a tut with the focus and zoom motors as well as footage and bluetooth camera control very soon.

Hi Marc Hope youre safe and well. Quick question: What’s the best gimble for BMPCC4K whilst the CORE SWX POWERBASE EDGE battery is stuck on? Thanks in advance Is the crane lab 3 a good gimble for the BMPCC4K and can it be attached whilst the core powerbase battery pack is attached underneath the camera?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

SKY MAGICIAN thats a good question. Unfortunately I have no experience using the powerbase. The problem with those bottom mounted power bases is that it raises the height of the cam and on a gimbal it could hit the rear motor when going into a low angle shot. Another con is the additional weight. It gets heavy after a while and any additional weight on the gimbal you will begin to feel and it gets exhausting. I switch out bats, I have 7 bats that last a day’s shoot. I dont mind switching them out. Id rather do that than deal with the headache of balancing, shot limits, and extra weight. Rule of thumb, keep your cam and gimbal as lightweight as possible. It makes it easier to handle as well as setup, especially on a gig. Im not saying it cant be done. I’m just saying for myself its not worth it on a gimbal setup. On a tripod for sure, all day.

Is the mount on the bottom of the CAGE that your sliding onto the gimbal plate something that comes with the Crane 3 Lab standard kit? I wanna make sure i don't need an additional mounting plate for the bottom of the camera to get it to fit.. thanks!

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it comes with its own mounting plate.

Since the camera is now offset is really hard when adding the follow focus and zoom kit though!

I can now use my BMPCC with the stabilizer it was perfect 100% stabilized thanks for your video lead time I have a problem I cannot see the image of the transmission with all its cable connected I do not see anything on the mobile with the APK, but I can control everything From the phone

Can you please test the HMDI wireless transmission to the ZY Play app on your smartphone? Also, if you’re planning on getting the follow focus I’d love to see that in action on the BMPCC

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Craigery Dennis I did. I’ll be posting a vid for the ZY Play app and test footage soon. Fyi, there’s a small delay. Not a deal breaker. New tech. Will improve.

@Puppetsinmyhead

5 жыл бұрын

Marc Martinez when!! Can’t find anybody talking about how to connect this to the wireless transmitter. Nothing I do works. I have my camera through the HDMI connected to the crane threes mini HDMI. Everything is updated and I can’t get a picture on my phone. I get it to connect remotely and I can move it around with the phone through the app. but I don’t see an image

As opposed to lifting the gimbal to balance the pan, all you must do is slightly lean it forward or backward to find if it is front or back heavy.

does the role Axis rotates 360 degree with BMpcc4K? because this is kinda worries me a lot! and does the crane 3 come with follow focus and zoom gear? great tips Marc, thank you very much

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Omar Nasr Yes it does. It has an infinite roll on that axis via a ‘Vortex’ function in the ZY Play app.

@ianhavingfun

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Actually, we can active POV Mode/Vortex Mode [ POV ] from the gimbal handle, no need to open ZY play App: there is a side button"POV" • Single click to enter or exit Point of View Mode. Click again to return to previous model. • Double click to enter or exit Vortex Mode. Click again to return to the previous mode. :D

Do you use a different mounting plate than the one provided by the gimbal? Thanks

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

I use the same hardware it comes with.

Hello Marc - will you still be doing a tutorial on how you utilize software of the gimbal and the pocket 4k ?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I have made one but I am adding extra content before posting in the coming week.

I was wondering if you had any tips on balancing the roll axis? I found that the roll axis would balance horizontally but anytime I lifted it up it would tip back down to horizontal rather than staying in one place. The only way I got the roll axis to balance properly is to change the tilt axis but then it would ruin the tilt. Would love to know what you did! I've also been having issues where the BMPCC4K is seemingly too top heavy and I don't have enough slack to even balance it!

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

William Snyder the best tips I have are in this vid bud. I cover the roll axis and the slack for mounting the Pocket 4K.

Where did you order Crane 3 from ????? Thank you for sharing your balancing video. :)

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Hollywood-Wedding-Films.com there’s a link in the description.

Thanks for making this video. Do you think this setup could work with the new Blackmagic battery grip underneath the camera?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Ric Rawlins I would imagine the extra height would bump the camera into the rear motor for the tilt axis. As it is you have to set it far back on the plate to balance a zoom lens. It will also offset the center of gravity and make it harder to balance. Not to mention the added weight that starts getting heavy on long takes. Too many cons imo. I would recommend against it. I switch out batts. Its easy access and takes ten seconds. It allows the pocket 4K to work with the Crane 3 freely and lightweight.

@festivaldayfilms

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Thanks for the advice Marc, much appreciated.

How do you control the camera with the gimbal buttons? Zhiyun have not developed an HDMI to HDMI mini cable (I've asked them). Their after sales service basically said "we don't know, its not our department" and "just use it for stabilization".

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Nick, check out this new tutorial it addresses many question you may have. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIKOzbiJj9PMlNI.html

what’s the diff between the lanparte cage and like the smallrig cage on amazon? there’s a huge price difference i’m just wondering how much of a difference in quality there is for using it with a gimbal like this

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

JamilWTW the differences are small and not worth the price difference. I have a Smallrig half cage that makes the setup way easier. Live and learn. I’m posting a vid for that with the P6K soon.

how to cannect bmpcc 4k with zy play app display Transmission pleas replay

Thank

how would it work with a follow focus unit in the front? will it still clear all axis and more freely like this or will it sit too back?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

You would be better of using their focus motor. Its only $89 and pairs with the focus wheel in the gimbal.

Plural of 'axis' is 'axes' pronounced 'ax-ees' as in cheese!

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Ha finally! Thank you!

is the battery component accessible without unmounting the camera off the gimbal? Also, I have powercore edge battery base, do you think it would somehow be able to balance with that thing sitting on the bottom of the camera?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, the battery compartment is easily accessible with the camera mounted. As for the battery base, it's hard to say. I wouldn't recommend it. I use the Sony NP's and get about an hour per battery. You want to keep your rig as light as possible. Hope this helps. Good luck.

@lauddp1150

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms appreciate it man! Thanks for the reply and good job on the video

I have two questions. You say that the speedbooster xl works best on this camera, why do you think so? Isnt the xl designed for fullframe lenses rather than apsc like that sigma zoom? Secondly, how do you pull focus in this setup? I see there is a focus wheel on the gimbal, does it need an extra motor or can it controll the focus via usbc through the camera? Also, I can image it would be hard to even operate the focus wheel with this handle design, which I actually find quite good.

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

nordfresse it is designed for full frame lenses. I have a full set of Rokinons and there is no vignetting on my widest 16mm lens. They all work perfectly so the APSC lenses are covered by default. I have a Zhiyun focus motor coming to me soon. I’ll test and post a vid for that. For now I use a PDMovie Remote Air Pro for my manual lenses. Hope that helps.

@nordfresse

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Not sure I understand you correctly but with a focal reducer it is not like with normal mounts, where you can use any ff lens for apsc cameras as well, because the image circle covers more real estate than apsc needs anyway. With a focal reducer however you shrink the image circle, thats why it is exactly the other way around: the xl (0.64x) can only be used with ff lenses, while the ultra (0.71x) works with both ff and apsc lenses. Because it does not shrink the image circle quite as much. I am sure you know all that anyway...

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@nordfresse correct again but the difference with .71 on a 50mm lens reduces the focal length to 35.5mm as opposed to .64 reducing to 32mm. You get a wider FOV which for me is essential. And in 4K on the BMPCC 4K, APSC lenses are compatible.

Hi, I have the 6K pro and it doesn’t fit with my small rig cage at all. Is there a way out pleaseeee

@marcmartinezfilms

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I understand the Pro is larger than the regular 6K. The 6K was already big for the Crane 3. I would imagine its too wide especially with a cage. Try mounting with no cage. Other than that I dont own the Pro so I dont think I could be much help. Good luck.

Great video. Just got a deal on this gimbal. It's Axes, pronounced Axe-ees. Or Axe-ease. 🍻

@marcmartinezfilms

Ай бұрын

Cool, thanks

Does the gimbal mounting plate not slide enough for the camera to clear the motor arm without getting a cage?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Louis Alfred III without a cage with offset screw holes or a offset mounting plate it wont fit. Smallrig and Lanparte both make a plate specifically for this purpose.

@louisalfred3

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Thanks for the info.

My smallrig full cage don't feet...why ? i can't put the plate !

your roll axis is supposed to stay put when you move it. yours keeps rolling back to the centre?

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Perfect balance.

@glennparker8247

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms is it though? All the instructions I've seen say that it should stay where it is when you let it go. On your roll axis one it keeps rolling back towards the centre? I'm struggling to balance mine there as well.

Hey guys, I stuck with the following problem: How to pair a Crane 3 Lab and record video to an SSD at the same time? Both run over the USB-C, but BMPCC4K has only 1 port. Is it possible to use a hub or a splitter? Any advises?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

For monitoring Use the hdmi port on the Pocket 4K to connect to Crane 3 then pair Crane 3 to your phone with Bluetooth.

@DJDennisLee

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it will be not possible to control the settings like ISO, shutter as well as the Rec-Button which is very important.

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Dennis Lee it is very possible. I cover camera control in the gimbal here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIKOzbiJj9PMlNI.html

@DJDennisLee

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms You speak about the control of the camera over an iPhone app, bubt my question was about the gimbal. It can be connected to the camera over the USB-C and controlled via the Zhiyun Crane. But since the USB-C is already used by the SSD my question was if there is a possibility to use an USB-C hub? I summarize: how to use the REC-button on Crane while having a SSD plugged into the only USB-C port of BMPCC4K?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Dennis Lee as far as I know the pocket 4k or 6k does not support camera control over wire. Its a pain every time I have to hit record and stop. I just recently had a second person (ac) control start stop on the app for a music video I just shot.

Whenever you move the gimbal around I hear plastic rattling. Is it a well made gimbal?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

63MacGuy its a solid build. What you’re hearing are the latches engaged.

Thanks, but I can't get my head around how you managed to attach focus and zoom motors since the blackmagic is offset to the left so it would fit and not bump the motor! :(

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Misha Panov the motors sit far out in front on a zoom lens. A bit trickier on fixed lenses. Ive gotten around it by adjusting the plate that secures the the motors.

@663

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms Thanks for the reply, Is it possible to use motors on prime lenses?

@marcmartinezfilms

4 жыл бұрын

Misha Panov yes absolutely.

I cant get my pc4k to work with this gimbal. App shows no feed with cable plugged in. Any help would be appreciated.

@bahamaful

5 жыл бұрын

Did you get it to work.

@Digifx69

5 жыл бұрын

@@bahamaful Apparently crane is not compatible with BM4k yet. Waiting for patch hopefully.

Marc I keep getting an error when I try to connect the BMPC4k to my lab 3. I keep getting error Cant connect to camera. I have the usb cable connected. What am I missing?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Troy Guerrero there is no camera control for the BMPCC4K. Use the APP Bluetooth+

@Digifx69

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilmsmust be iPhone app I use Android Samsung 9+

@Digifx69

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms thanks.

@Digifx69

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms disappointing

Make it look so easy ...I almost gave up on them lol

BMPC4k does not work with the buttons on this gimbal. Be aware.

What happend at 14:48? Did the gimbal not support the weight?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Erasmo Neto I waiting for someone to notice. It hit a cup that was on my table. Good eye.

What is the actual weight of the Gimbal only with the plate?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Jeetin sharma a little over 3 lbs. not sure exactly how much.

Can’t find anybody talking about how to connect this to the wireless transmitter. Nothing I do works. I have my camera through the HDMI connected to the crane threes mini HDMI. Everything is updated and I can’t get a picture on my phone. I get it to connect remotely and I can move it around with the phone through the app. but I don’t see an image

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Mesogreat I will be posting a video that goes over the wireless transmission capabilities. Fyi, the image lag is enough to render it useless. Its not quite there yet. I’ll post a vid soon.

Bmpcc + cage + sigma 18-35. Can you handle that weight?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

Max Kitaev yes no problem. Crane is rated at 10 pounds max weight limit.

you forgot zoom/focus wheels. has anyone been able to control the bmpcc through the handle?

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

David Boerst I cover the zoom/focus in a separate video.

@davidboerst4789

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms thanks. I am still unable to control the iso,f-stop and shutter thru the handle (the app can control it tho). Any thoughts?

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

David Boerst as far as I know there is no camera control for the BMPC’s through a cable on this gimbal . Only Bluetooth.

@davidboerst4789

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcmartinezfilms yeah I reached out to the company. They may do a firmware update for it in the future but as of right now there's nothing

@marcmartinezfilms

3 жыл бұрын

David Boerst good to know thanks

E aí configuração da câmera?

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIKOzbiJj9PMlNI.html

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

There is a section with setup using Bluetooth app. I hope that helps.

The word rhymes with TREES and FLEAS and BEES, not the Access Hollywood bus.

axes.. yes (ax-eez)

When you use it in the plural go ahead and say Axes. When you are using it in the singular like the roll axis for example its axis! Painful watching you say axes 500 *

@marcmartinezfilms

5 жыл бұрын

PostModern Filmmaking thanks for taking the time to point that out.