"If i misunderstand science, religion makes more sense." Young Earthers in a nut shell

@guydude7550

Ай бұрын

If I remain stupid and ignorant I can pretend everything says what I want it to say, which makes any evidence against my points wrong and actually in support of my side! Ignorant narcissism is awesome! Ive dealt with people who argue with me that most scientists are "switching sides" and becoming creationists, and that all the science we do and things we discover every day supports creationism more and more everyday. Why? How? Prove it? Nope. The reason is "Because it is, because they are."

@cctomcat321

Ай бұрын

And then if they get pushed too far? Well, it's all just opinions and beliefs, and who _really_ knows? Why do you have to be so combative? We wouldn't have this problem without that atheist Darwin nonsense. The excuses are endless. "Well, I don't think God wrote that part I don't like. That was for this... or interpreted as that...."

@NIGHTMARE-zy7tq

Ай бұрын

Learning Bio and Physics hard.....

No it doesn't mean it took humans 190K years to figure out how to build structures. There was no reason to build permanent structures until plant domestication happened because they had to keep moving to find food.

@williamwatson4354

Ай бұрын

When you grow up in a civilized society, its hard to comprehend that for the majority of history, we were hunter gatherers.

@crow7505

Ай бұрын

Australian Aboriginal people have been here for 65,000 + years and never built permanent structures.

@jt5678

Ай бұрын

Not to mention, there's good reason to believe we built rudimentary structures for some time before agricultural settlements. However, because we were nomadic, we lacked the pressures that would cause us to build robust permanent structures. We do actually have evidence that early humans were building shelters from natural materials prior to the creation of settlements. It's merely that reeds and twine are subject to greater decay than stone masonry. Asserting that our earliest examples of still-standing stone structures must actually be the first examples of structures at all is a clear survivorship bias. It ignores that even earlier structures are simply lost to time.

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

Carbon dating living snails, Oh good grief that's hilarious,

@HatstandTuesday

Ай бұрын

@@crow7505 They also somehow managed to miss the whole Noah's flood thing.

“Your inability to understand basic Science does not mean ,god did it,.”

@andyhodge9703

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately , for these people , that is exactly what it means .

RJ's "research" into population growth consisted of repeatedly hitting x2 on his Spongebob calculator.

@user-xb1ht4py2v

Ай бұрын

Well because everyone is immortal in his world apparently.

@skyletwings5711

Ай бұрын

And there was enough left over for deseases and wars. All calculated in at the right time when it happened in history...

@RancorousSea

Ай бұрын

You're giving him way too much credit to imply he has a cool calculator

@fatterperdurabo42069

Ай бұрын

To be fair, that's a WAY more honest effort than anything Malthus ever did

@LOwens-xf8yo

Ай бұрын

Kudos to Dr. Ray for not shaming the caller by mentioning his PhD in the subject.

Who said, "The intelligent are full of doubts while the stupid are full of confidence?"

@nicksykes4575

Ай бұрын

I don't know, but whoever it was hit the nail on the head.

@toughenupfluffy7294

Ай бұрын

As far as I know, English philosopher Bertrand Russell said it first: "The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

@guydude7550

Ай бұрын

Thats what religion doesnt like having people who are too smart around. Too many questions, too much curiosity. Both are very evil because thats Satan trying to lead you away from god! Just accept the teachings and do as you're told and you'll be allowed to be happy the way we say you can!

@user-xb1ht4py2v

Ай бұрын

That is called the "Dunning-Kruger Effect".

@davidblackburn3396

Ай бұрын

@@toughenupfluffy7294 It was Russell, yes, thanks. 👍

He did the calculations on a calculator that assumed every person born survived and never died 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

@jane-cn6nd

Ай бұрын

Exactly. There was famine, war, plagues and no modern medicine. The likelihood of survival into adulthood was pretty iffy at best.

@AquaPeet

Ай бұрын

@@jane-cn6nd "yeah but they popped out 24 kids back then....." WELL NOT IN A FAMINE!!! "Yeah well according to my spongebob calculator......" someone, please drag his obnoxious, naive, ignorant, smug ass back to school and I don't mean HOME SCHOOL

What the caller said about living snail shell was from a paper deliberately misquoted by, who else, Kent Hovind. The actual title of the paper was "Radiocarbon dating: Fictitious results with mollusk shells." The paper was actually about how modern mollusk shells could have anomalous radiocarbon ages due to incorporation of inactive (carbon 14 deficient) carbon from the environment. They showed radiocarbon ages of 2300 years. The experiment was to deliberately demonstrate how environmental conditions could affect radiocarbon dating. (Keith M. S. and Anderson G. M. 1963 Science vol 141, p 634) Hovind deliberately misused it to "prove" radiocarbon dating was unreliable.

@johnrap7203

Ай бұрын

Now that is a good "revelation"! Thanks!

@cynodont7391

Ай бұрын

Yeah. This is a well known problem called a reservoir effect. It typically happens when organisms collect their carbon from a marine or freshwater environment that is contaminated by old carbon. Radiocarbon dating relies on the (known) ratio of C14/C12 in the atmosphere and so works well for plants that obtain their carbon from the atmosphere and for animals that eat those plants. Any scientific paper using radiocarbon dating has to evaluate the risk for potential reservoir effects : Wood and remains from terrestrial animals are usually fine but organisms in marine or fresh water environments are potentially affected.

@steveg1961

Ай бұрын

I've been familiar with this specific example of bogus young earth creationist claims for over forty years. It's just one of the hundreds of examples of how some prominent young earth creationism pseudoscience promoters cherry-picks some "factoid" out of scientific research, then totally misrepresents it out of context (and by deliberately ignoring the details of the facts presented in the original research article), essentially lying about the scientific research - and then a kazillion scientifically illiterate young earth creationists regurgitate that bogus young earth creationist argument for the next several decades because they have less than zero interest in actually digging into the actual facts for themselves (yes, this attitude of dishonesty is taught in the young earth creationist ideology as a religious virtue). Indeed, they WILL NOT dig into the actual facts about the actual scientific research (willful ignorance), deliberately. And when anyone does take the time to point out the details about the facts that prove that the pseudoscience claim they've made is factually wrong, they'll just deliberately ignore these facts and keep right on promoting their false argument anyway. In the young earth creationist mindset, this is just standard operating procedure. (Now, yes, I'm speaking in generalities here, because it isn't 100% of young earth creationists. I'm mostly speaking about the people who go around promoting these false pseudoscience claims. There are certainly people who believe in young earth creationism, but who don't go around promoting the pseudoscience like this. And there are also young earth creationists such as myself - I was a young earth creationist up until 1980 - who were raised by fundamentalist Christian parents, in fundamentalist Christian churches, who are willing to dig into the facts and do their own research, and as they learn more about the details of the actual science of the various topics, they realize how wrong their beliefs are, and then they aren't young earth creationists any more.)

@dansmith7009

Ай бұрын

@@cynodont7391yep! Although it’s also possible that predators with a super high proportion of their food being fish might also be a few hundred years older. But that effect tops out at 400 years of extra decay worth. Which means human remains from a fishing village, that test 10k years old, might actually be only 9,700y old when the reservoir effect is taken into effect. Which… doesn’t help creationists much.

@dansmith7009

Ай бұрын

Also, it was specifically found in snails in arid locations where the only source of water was very heavy in dissolved limestone, and there were few other sources of calcium in the environment, and ranged from a 100 year age up to that 2,300y age. …and it’s also a paper from the 1960’s, like everything else Kent cites, because he’s allergic to anything that happened since he went to prison for tax fraud.

' Humans are smarter than dogs ' well most of us are

@mirandahotspring4019

Ай бұрын

Jury is still out regarding the YECs.

@AkanoWire

Ай бұрын

press fffffffff to doubt i pressed a few times xD

@petermeichan3160

Ай бұрын

@@mirandahotspring4019 way out

RJs confidence in his ignorance is astounding. 🤦🏽

@thuzUNed

Ай бұрын

Theists' confidence in their ignorance is astounding

Hearing this makes me wonder why there still is a discussion about how to determine when someone is braindead.

Nobody ever mentions inbreeding. Eight people on a boat is not a viable starting population.

@randeepwalia1507

Ай бұрын

It... May be? I really have no idea. It's definitely uncomfortable to think about what generations of inbreeding would look like

@TheDahaka1

Ай бұрын

​@@randeepwalia1507 In any case they would not result in the variety of humanity's traits that we have today XD The main problem with creationism, and especially Noah's ark, is that for the very few species that it could accomodate to get to what we have today, evolution would have needed to be thousands of times faster than what happens in reality. So yeah, while trying to deny evolution, creationists invented super-duper-evolution XD

@diggie9598

Ай бұрын

@@TheDahaka1 I guess it all comes down to "working in mysterious ways". 😁

@asphalthedgehog6580

Ай бұрын

Why would you let a human build a boat and make trillions of liters of water, let eggs walk to a boat, feed the carnivores on the boat? Why not build the boat yourself or place a new mountain (much simpler than all that water) and spread a deadly virus that only infected humans and not animals. And after that the polar Bears walked together with the seals through the desert to the north pole. Yeah...

@toughenupfluffy7294

Ай бұрын

Correct. It takes genetic drift over many generations to evolve the diversity we see today. Inbreeding leads to unadvantageous mutations and oftentimes sterility.

"It's not what you don't know that gets you into trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so."-Mark Twain

I believe the earth can only be about 120 years old, because if you look at people, there are none who are over 150 years old. Sounds legit.

@toughenupfluffy7294

Ай бұрын

Last Thursdayism. The universe was created exactly as it is, memories and all, just last Thursday.

@richiejohnson

Ай бұрын

This thread is inspiring!

@GaryRine

Ай бұрын

@@toughenupfluffy7294 I'm glad you picked Thor's Day....LOL... it wouldn't make sense otherwise..LOL

@RahiVItorBeast007

Ай бұрын

​@@toughenupfluffy7294 Foolish Last Thursdayism. The truth comes from Last Wednesdayism!

"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." --- Voltaire

@fredcdobbs.goldmine

Ай бұрын

I thought that was Mark Twain.

@johnrap7203

Ай бұрын

Yes, it seems to be Voltaire, just off the top of my google. Also by Voltaire, "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." "Religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool" - Mark Twain.

All these Christians talk about a young earth and a global flood while native australians have history going back 65,000+ years and apparently missed out on the creation and end of the world.

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

Even in Yorkshire we have 11,000 year old settlements, This caller is very confused, Wait until he finds out about Troglodytes.

"I did my own research". 🤦‍♂ We never should have made hardware so cheap, and software so idiot proof that the internet became nothing but a way to find any information that reassures your ignorance.

RJ is terminally confused!

Using RJ's "population" logic, the Pyramids were built by about 200 people.

@planethopper335

Ай бұрын

That's the best counterargument ever.

@RancorousSea

Ай бұрын

They were very strong

"I have to disagree with you on that, im just guessing"..around 4:56 summarizes the whole call.

The oldest cave painting is dated to be 45,500 years old. Not 10 thousand, so, NO - not everything points to a young earth.

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

Exactly we have an 11,000 year old settlement in Yorkshire.

@greeneyedlady5580

Ай бұрын

We have Native American artifacts in Oregon, USA dating back at least 10,000 years.

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

@@greeneyedlady5580 Stone Henge is 5000 years old, And it’s not even the oldest.

It is so presumptuous to think that by doing an internet search, you know better than thousands of scientists who devoted their life studying that topic!

These peope "are thought" - they follow EXACTLY the path people like Kent Hovind have told them. Not a single thought deviates from the programming they have succumbed themselves to. RJ is a genius because inside his bubble of creationism he knows as much as all the others - and he will NEVER look outside. Outside all is wrong, inside all is right.

@heidihaw8119

Ай бұрын

I grew up homeschooled K-12 in young earth creationism. The only thing I learned about biology matched up with what the bible said or was used to “debunk” evolution. I was told scientists don’t want to believe in (Christian) god, so they desperately try to disprove it and find other ways to explain the world. RJ sounded exactly like how I would have sounded if I had called in after graduating from high school. He has no idea how much he doesn’t know.

The callers theory about population growth assumes that everyone is still alive thoughout those thousands of years.

"Human technology isn't perfect, so I'm gonna guess on an old book written by humans who lived in the times when technology was even Worse" -- because that makes perfect sense, yeah -_-

The Australian native people hane been in Australia 60000 years. They didn't build things. Thay were hunter gathers.

He actually said, "if you times it by 2". Well, I'll accept that he made it out of second grade. Ok, too much snark and stupidity for one day. Have fun internet people!

These sort of calls follow a script. Caller: This is what I believe because I've had it told to me throughout my life by my theist parents, Sunday school teacher, pastors, teachers at my Christian school. Hosts: The science is this, though. Caller: .....ummm..... [I never considered that...]. But the Bible says...

On structures: How did he rule out that we dont have older manmade structures that were destroyed and cant be detected? Also with regard to human population growth. No one in this call mentioned high maternal mortality rates during childbirth. Thats only been largely fixed recently in countries with high medical standards. It still exists today in other places. One imagines that back 5000 years ago it was even more common for mothers to die in childbirth

@greeneyedlady5580

Ай бұрын

Exactly, and I was telling something to that effect while watching this clip. I'm only here today because I was able to get a DNC after a miscarriage almost 50 years ago. I don't know what the actual data might have been, but I wouldn't be surprised if as many as 1 I! 4 women died in pregnancy or childbirth thousand of years ago. Probably the best majority of children didn't live to adulthood. Even today, the US has high maternal death rates, particularly along Natives and Black people.

The first human structures were wood huts. They don’t last thousands of years. The giant stone buildings came much later, but were finally big enough for us to find now.

One thing to think about is that none of the animal species we know existed in the past and are now extinct or in a much changed form are mentioned in the Bible.

RJ from Colorado, A new level of ignorance. If I had a time machine I go for about 3000 years and hope that religion has died out.

@josephoswald2292

Ай бұрын

That happened to Cartman on South Park

“So you’re saying the majority of the world, which are Christians, are wrong and the minority, scientists, are not?”-said in a scoffing way. Argument from ad populum here man. I don’t care if all 8 billion people on Earth believe something to be true…it matters whether or not it’s actually true. We, as skeptics, go with scientists because the methods scientists employ to find the truth have been the most reliable and accurate.

His claim based on biology , ignoring geology totally as it debunks his main premise.

it's astonishing that there are still people who believe in this (very stupid & terribly cruel) fairy tale.

The problem with his calculation is, that nobody dies in all of his doubling. He just adds all the new people and never subtracts the dead ones.

"the oldest tree supports young earth" Alerce Milenario, Prometheus, Methuselah, and the oldest known bristlecone pine (I don't think it has a name like the others) would all have had to *survive* the Flood to be as old as they are

@botaniccal

Ай бұрын

I also love his """"""math"""""" on the population growth. His math assumes that prior generations don't die off

@greeneyedlady5580

Ай бұрын

​@@botaniccal Well the Bible claims Noah was 900 when he began building the ark, so if he did factor in life expectancy, I doubt he was very realistic about how long that would be.

The "living aquatic animal radiocarbon dated to be thousands of years old" claim is a very old one (I first heard it in 1970, but didn't find the source until nearly 1990 and then refound it about a decade ago when it was cited by Kent Hovind in his PowerPoint presentations -- ironic, isn't that?) and undoubtedly comes from many sources since it's based on a very common issue that scientists are well aware of. C-14 dating depends on cosmic radiation changing nitrogen into carbon-14 in the upper atmosphere (which very quickly combines with oxygen to form carbon-dioxide), which then disperses throughout the atmosphere to be incorporated into plant tissue through photosynthesis, after which it enters animal tissue through ingestion of plants or of plant-eaters. It can then slowly work its way from the atmosphere into the seas. As a result, the C14 in the atmosphere is mainly "new" while the C14 in the seas is mainly "old" and so has had more time to decay. In Wikipedia articles on radiocarbon dating, search for "reservoir" which describes that. One issue that raises is that aquatic animals (eg, fish) AND ANIMALS WHO FEED ON THEM (eg, seals, humans who subsist primarily on fishing) will yield radiocarbon ages that are greater than they should be, because the C14 that they ingest is mainly "old carbon". In the case of the freshwater clams (in the version I was told, snails in the version you heard), they get their carbon from the water, NOT FROM THE ATMOSPHERE. In the article I found, the stream was fed by a spring in limestone and hence the water in the spring contained dissolved limestone, which being calcium carbonate contains carbon and having come from limestone makes that carbon "OLD". It is the living animals' use of "old carbon" that yields "bad dates." Scientists are very well aware of this issue and so know to account for it. Indeed, on a recent NOVA about an archaeological excavation of an old Viking encampment in England with a known date, they found that carbon dating of the human remains yielded dates that were about 200 years greater than the historical date. The reason for that was the use of fishing for sustenance: the fish grew up on "old carbon" and so when people ate the fish they were also eating "old carbon."

@Glasschin2.0

Ай бұрын

Kent’s a con man

It seemed like he was throwing darts at a wall... In the dark... With no dart board... And no darts

Population grew far more slowly thousands of years ago

Just checked. Living snails have shells that have been incorporating “dead carbon” when living in an environment with ancient limestone

So he knows humans are mammals, but thinks evolution is fake?

ooooo they had up to 24 kids once they got off the ark!!! Well that solves everything then! They could totally make the pyramids with two dozen people then!

I know nothing about population studies and I suck at math...yet I can still see how utterly flawed his population calculations are.

“Ummm ummmm der ummmmm I’m guessing and disagree ummmmm man made structure 10 million ummmmmm. They have overlooking this.” Wow.

8000? "Damascus, Syria, is one of the world’s oldest continuously inhabited cities, a distinction it bears with its history lost in the mists of time. Damascus is a living example of the tenacity and durability of human civilization, with a history spanning more than 11,000 years."

The Dunning-Kruger effect in full view!!!

Göbekli Tepe is made in around 9000 BC which is far older than the 6000 year old. Theopetra's Cave, Meteora, Greece Built: 21000 BC Barnenez, France Built: 4850 BC Theres in fact quite a few things that are older than what SHOULD be if earth was just created at the same time.

"Humans are the smartest mammal on the planet". Dude, you are disproving this!

I wonder if heaven will be filled with people like this dude.

When London was a great city there were millions of native Americans in the NA continent Where are their structures, when they lived here for 20 000 years? They just didn't build out of the kind of stuff that lasts. Kind of like people did 100,000 years ago. They DID build structures. They just didn't last.

Full credit to this guy for calling into an Atheist show. Imagine the people who just go about their lives with these batsht crazy ideas and never have them challenged. This guy put himself, and his ideas out there for critique. Good on him.

@watchandjewelryloft4713

Ай бұрын

Mr optimistic here. 😂

@corpeedo

Ай бұрын

@@watchandjewelryloft4713 yeah, why not ay

@chuckm1961

Ай бұрын

He is not seeking critique. Not even a little bit. He thinks he has The Answers and needs to tell us. If he is challenged, he makes up some BS and continues with his delusions.

@corpeedo

Ай бұрын

@@chuckm1961 Yeah, that's kinda what they do huh. He got thoroughly delt to thankfully. How embarrassing.

Hi sources are AiG, Ken Ham, Kent Hovind…

We do have existing human structures that date back more than 7,000 years, check out Karahan Tepe.

@angrydoggy9170

Ай бұрын

There’s loads of even older structures around. Circular stone foundations for huts and fireplaces. Not as spectacular, but still a human made structure.

Look at the trees, Oh sheet here we go again.

“Just because I don’t understand something, that doesn’t mean I’m willing to chalk it up to some fairy tale.” -- (TV Matt Murdoch/ Daredevil) (This is one of my all-time favorite quotes!)

Newgrange passage tomb here in Ireland predates the Pyramids of Egypt and we are a fair distance away from the Middle East.

ancient american cilivizations are marked historically from approx 14-15,000 yrs old.

What a mind-numbingly dull and predictable discussion.

The problem with doubling starting with 8 hitting 8 billion after about 30 times is it assumes that people lived 3000 years you have to take numbers away for death as you double

Am I the only one concerned about the incestual implications of starting with 8 humans?

@johnrap7203

Ай бұрын

No! 👍👍

@Glasschin2.0

Ай бұрын

Considering 5 were related to begin with lol

RJ's ignorance is of biblical proportions.

He really think that humans should have been making vast structures that stand the test of time as soon as we gained our current level of sentience. Like we didn't have to, idk, figure it out first? Also the fact that we couldn't settle until we developed agriculture and domesticated animals.

He’s not accounting for people dying. He’s just a x2 and hitting the equals button over and over His calculations have 2000 year old people

@mums_poop_sock

12 күн бұрын

This was my first thought also. But to be fair, every single person named in genesis dies of old age at like 800-900 years old hahah

Human technology is flawed Hutchins dating method is that of bishop usher. I'm laughing!

Shock horror. Snails build their shells out of stuff they eat. Dating the stuff they eat reveals it to be older than the snails.

The story of Noah is not 6000 years ago.

Caller: I would say my belief is based on evidence. Any “evidence” I don’t like is disregarded using whatever random “source” I can find on google, and I choose to seek out, and only believe sources that make the claims I like. Holy Cognitive Dissonance Batman!!!!

Great math there RJ, I'm looking forward to having 16 billion people on earth 30 years from now based on that.

"Humans are smarter than dogs, so they have a larger lifespan than dogs" So is it safe to say that turtles and whales are smarter than humans? Than RJ? Because they live waaaay longer than humans do

@angrydoggy9170

Ай бұрын

That’s not mentioning trees, fungi or coral. All way smarter than humans.

@maynardlikethecandy5347

Ай бұрын

That would make the Greenland Shark the smartest animal on the planet at 400+ years?

Biologically, after three human generations of inbreeding, we have the type of birth defects that strongly affect fertility. I think the heat problem is a worse "nail in the coffin" of these creationists, but the fertility is absolutely a killer of the idea.

@RancorousSea

Ай бұрын

Young Earther never played Crusader Kings

Caller's argument also doesn't take genetic deviation from just 8 progenitors into account.

RJ, Odin promised to rid the planet of ice giants. I see no ice giants. Do I have a valid reason to believe in or put any faith in Odin? (Citation of source is necessary for honesty and honest discovery. Shh, don't tell them I told you our secret)

@RancorousSea

Ай бұрын

That happened, I believe the full quote was "We're going to eliminate the Ice Giants, and Jötunheim is going to pay for it"

I love how both parties have no idea what an argument from authority is.

In that bizarre way that human beings can be so contradictory, creationists claim to worship a creator and the grandeur of his creation, yet the LAST thing they seem willing to learn about are the wonders of that creation, if that knowledge contradicts their mythology. They even view this "faith" in ancient stories as the height of knowledge and morality. (Well...when applied to their own stories. Other cultures' stories are pagan.) It strikes me as highly disrespectful of their creator and creation to refuse to learn about it, out of nothing more than their own egotistical spiteful certainty that they already know everything. It seems that an HONEST search for a universal higher consciousness, if you think there is one, HAS to exclude the suppositions of ancient mythologies, whose untold thousands of iterations are so improbable, so wildly contradictory, and so equally without evidence, that none can be believed. An HONEST search for a universal higher consciousness recognizes the simple fact that religious people overwhelmingly believe in the gods and mythology of their culture, with little or no question, so that an honest search means they must understand this about themselves and that their own religion cannot, for that reason, be a fair or logical jumping-off point. An HONEST search for a universal higher consciousness jettisons the ludicrous and dishonest notion that "scientists" just make things up, that they are motivated by a desire to undermine the ancient mythology; instead, HONEST search looks at ALL the sciences for evidence and explanation of how the vast creation functions. An HONEST search for a universal higher consciousness does not presume to know the will or purpose of that consciousness. An HONEST search does not presume to know what happens after death. An HONEST search does not merely repeat claims made on videos watched or pamphlets read. An HONEST search doesn't claim to have knowledge of subjects about which they know very little. I don't believe in the notion of a higher consciousness, but those who DO ought to show it some respect.

Young earth proponents thought the days in Genesis account of creation is a literal 24-hour day period forcing to accept the creation of light on the first day is just as 24 hour day period of the creation of the heavenly bodies on the 4th day. This is absurd, and an erroneous interpretation of the Genesis account of creation.

RJ if he could write should write a paper to be scientifically reviewed on his hypothesis.

It never escapes me that I think these people are obviously dead wrong, and they think the same about me. The question is, does religion somehow increase illogical thinking in society? Does it actually go as far as to influence political positions and such?

"the amount of knowledge you are lacking is astounding"

"If they had kids while they were on the boat??!" How long does this kid think it takes to make a baby??😂😂😂

One Word.... DNA...

The age of writing was badly misunderstood, and misrepresented. The oldest surviving, preserved, writing media, is approx 5,500 years. There is no rational, logical, critical, reason to think that writing could not have evolved over thousands of years, prior to methods of preservation. These long preserved materials correlate to stationary civilisations, not nomafic, hunter gatherers. And what about documented, examined and tested, cave drawings? The "evolution" of the written language HAD to have developed for a long time, arguably and rationally, before enduring writing materals were put into use.

Funny how whatever flaws are found in dating systems always favor the claims of young earth creationists .

@Glasschin2.0

Ай бұрын

How do they ?

@andyhodge9703

Ай бұрын

@@Glasschin2.0 Young earth creation adherents seem to be happy to try to undermine scientific dating methods by attempting to find anomalies in the data . In other words they use the science data which confirms the earth is many millions of years old to try to debunk the findings .

RJ has such a happy life, ignorance is blissss

Yeah, I looked it up and he’s wrong about the snails.

@MegaFrog

Ай бұрын

He's partially right, which is fully wrong. The snails did indeed yield incorrect radiocarbon dates, and this is because their shells incorporated some limestone older than the snails. So from this we were able to create a correction formula and correctly date the snails. We learned how to improve the system, we didn't prove it wrong.

His whole idea about the population doubling & it adds up to about 8 billion people is so flawed. Given that next generation we should have twice the amount of people, even in one generation getting up to 10 billion would be a feat in and of itself from where we are now... what a buffoon

Incredulity, thy name is RJ

Dunning Kruger is strong with this one.

In a word -inbreeding starting from 8 people?

@HatstandTuesday

Ай бұрын

And all the males share the same Y chromosaome.

Oldest clonal tree is nearly 10,000 years old, so there goes that whole tree thing. Oldest buildings is 9500-1100 years old Earliest evidence of humans in the Americas is 18,000 years old. So none of that seems to line up with anything RJ says.

Wait is he saying they had kids while on the ark? With a flood that laster 40 days and 40 nights? That's not 9 months

Wow! A complete waste of time for 2 great hosts!

So typically Christian, “I don’t know the exact number but I’m going to give one anyway.”

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"So typically Christian, “I don’t know the exact number but I’m going to give one anyway.”" Translates to: "I am not capable of saying 'I don't know' because I'm representing my faith and I'm told the Bible has all the answers."

Hey, RJ. Big difference between beliefs, poor evidence and good evidence.

There’s something seriously bothering me about these creationists. On the one hand they take the bible literally, but on the other hand they keep trying to fill in the blanks by proposing things not in the book. Like this guy saying “they could have had babies whilst on the Ark”. That’s a no, it’s not in the bible and it would screw up the entire lineage portrayed in the book.

One day a caveman got up, grabbed some stones, got some sticks and some vines, put 'em all together and poof- a little caveman shelter was made. First man-made structure. Too easy 😄

18:00 uhhh, RJ does know the world is a globe... right?

Abraham Lincoln was born 211 years ago. He has zero living descendants. (He had four sons, but his line died out with his great-grandchildren.) This guys maths doesn’t account for any dying.

The mental gymnastics tripped over and broke it's neck with this dilude! 🤣👌

Look at trees and buildings don't look at rocks

You cannot take 8 people because you have to work with couples. So there was 4 couples to begin with