Would Intelligent Aliens Undermine God? | Episode 407 | Closer To Truth

Whether extra-terrestrial intelligences exist has profound implications for human religion. We are either alone or not alone in the universe, but no matter the ultimate answer, theists and atheists will each mold that answer, alone or not alone, to fit their opposing worldviews. Featuring interviews with Steven Dick, Russell Stannard, Paul Davies, Robin Collins, and Douglas Vakoch.
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  • @CosasCotidianas
    @CosasCotidianas3 жыл бұрын

    I've found this channel a couple of weeks ago and.. I'm amazed. Thank you for this awesome work.

  • @samthompson1918

    @samthompson1918

    3 жыл бұрын

    this channel really is great

  • @edwardandrade4390

    @edwardandrade4390

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so into this channel only because this channel asks the questions that others won't. Uses what we know. And it keeps getting better.

  • @allococo5680

    @allococo5680

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardandrade4390 c0

  • @thedude9620

    @thedude9620

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's been on PBS for years now.

  • @davidhowse2388

    @davidhowse2388

    2 жыл бұрын

    It really is beautiful

  • @HouseofRecordsTacoma
    @HouseofRecordsTacoma3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mr. Russell for pointing out the dichotomy between religion & spirituality. Ya gotta serve somebody - Bob Dylan

  • @muxinedrisch
    @muxinedrisch3 жыл бұрын

    I was asking myself a million times: How could aliens blend in the simulation theory? Can't wait to watch this episode. Thanks a lot.

  • @sebaotmusic1572

    @sebaotmusic1572

    3 жыл бұрын

    To remove the "we seem to be alone" argument against any simulation theory.

  • @suatustel746

    @suatustel746

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why there's something 'there'd to be hard core, we may be the derivatives through the modulations in order to respond to their curoisty, experimentation, grandiosity, amusement, and so forth.. You may call them immortals maybe the absolute creality belong them ostensible they won't emulate themselves on subordinate beings like us, far fetch but not improbable..

  • @radiationhazardsfather6310

    @radiationhazardsfather6310

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are behind the simulation

  • @curtiskelly6553

    @curtiskelly6553

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤔Maybe they created the simulation?

  • @janicejohnson6438

    @janicejohnson6438

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@curtiskelly6553 There is no simulation.

  • @somethingyousaid5059
    @somethingyousaid50593 жыл бұрын

    Turns out I'm an alien in my own world. (And not a particularly intelligent one at that.)

  • @7rich79

    @7rich79

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you are a visitor who accidentally stumbled into this one? :)

  • @somethingyousaid5059

    @somethingyousaid5059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@7rich79 I'm just a human being. Even so, I'm alienated from all of you. So in that context I'm an alien.

  • @mdabrarulhuq9672

    @mdabrarulhuq9672

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a joke

  • @sstolarik

    @sstolarik

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m right with you, @something you said.

  • @BRAVEONPRECIOUS

    @BRAVEONPRECIOUS

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sstolarik Me too.it’s a strange journey to be in such a beautiful world and not identify with the species you landed with... 💫

  • @steppahouse
    @steppahouse2 жыл бұрын

    If there are intelligent aliens, there's always the possibility that they show up and are already members of something very much like one of the existing religions on Earth. Sure, even if that happened there are bound to be differences, but I don't see much speculative writing on this particular angle and I find the concept fascinating.

  • @cordelearts

    @cordelearts

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting thought, because most of the major religions were influenced by location and prophets, thus it’s plausible that they could have had their versions of prophets sent to them.

  • @robertgreen9232

    @robertgreen9232

    Жыл бұрын

    So Jesus died on a cross for aliens too huh really

  • @robertgreen9232

    @robertgreen9232

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the aliens would beg to differ

  • @steppahouse

    @steppahouse

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertgreen9232 That's one possibility, if you accept the premise. Another is that each sophont species has their own version of Jesus that fits their situation and environment, but the overall message is roughly the same.

  • @zatoichi4449

    @zatoichi4449

    Жыл бұрын

    @@steppahouse Seems VERY unlikely...it's like putting a template over something that does not fit the template at all.

  • @pikiwiki
    @pikiwiki3 жыл бұрын

    Robert looks as if he has perfected his interview face to project the appropriate emotions at the right time and keeping his actual feelings well under cover

  • @JimHabash

    @JimHabash

    3 жыл бұрын

    Robert's work is good, however he is a consultant to the Chinese communist party in many areas, I have no idea what he does, but look it up, I'm not kidding. Just weird. He tools around in a BMW talking all these neat philosophical concepts across the globe, but I wonder where he made his living, or what family he is from. Just saying. Not being a conspiracy theorist or anything. I was surprised. I dig his work, but I keep an open view on many aspects of various social media folks.

  • @tonoornottono

    @tonoornottono

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JimHabash he’s a spy and these interviews allow him to move covertly

  • @JimHabash

    @JimHabash

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tonoornottono interesting, I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @solomonessix6909
    @solomonessix69093 жыл бұрын

    Spectacular episode!

  • @Wishyouwerehere435
    @Wishyouwerehere4353 жыл бұрын

    These videos deserve a lot more views. Keep up the great work.

  • @brydonjesse

    @brydonjesse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Smart ppl are few and far between, everyone is working with eyes down.

  • @rudder-room13

    @rudder-room13

    2 жыл бұрын

    U right but people is worried and busy hate each other and following what other do and say they are blind in they own point of view they love watch only cartoon and ticktoc and facebook instagram there they are happy and this a cycle happen over and over whit out mention drugs marijuana and alcohol addiction make them become slaves of they own .

  • @KentonJoseph

    @KentonJoseph

    2 жыл бұрын

    Religion points to aliens. "My kingdom is in Heaven AND NOT OF EARTH."

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist81623 жыл бұрын

    Aliens: We come to bring you Jesus .. Humans: We got one already !

  • @OldNavajoTricks

    @OldNavajoTricks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Humans deep in space, oh look, space religion! Astro-Mom: We have religion at home...

  • @spiritualanarchist8162

    @spiritualanarchist8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@OldNavajoTricks LOL...Astro mom. I'm not sending my children down there !.These humans are still fighting over who has the best God...Let's return in a few centuries ;))

  • @garoldteigs1116

    @garoldteigs1116

    3 жыл бұрын

    FOR THE LAST TIME!.... ive continued to educate folks who dont really know the bible at ALL!!! 1-the bible NEVER SAYS man and earth at the center of the universe OR creation!!! period!!! that idea started during THE ENLIGHTENMENT PERIOD OF HISTORY!!! before that time, man and earth were thought to be at the bottom of the celestial hierarchy! 2-the bible also NEVER SAYS man is the ONLY CREATION!!! if fact, im quite shocked how bible church goers dont even read the bible on this very subject!!! take 2nd peter for example-"BOLD AND ARROGANT, MEN ARE NOT AFRAID TO SLANDER CELESTIAL BEINGS, AND EVEN THOUGH ANGELS!!...ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THESE BEINGS, EVEN THEY DO NOT BRING RAILING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD!"" also, revelation talks about "living beings" that are NOT ANGELS as well! so a god, if it exists, can create whatever it wants, but lets not keep these old refuted ideas alive that are NOT EVEN IN SCRIPTURE!!!!! A-BIBLE SAYS THERE ARE CELESTIAL BEINGS THAT ARE NOT ANGELS, AS WELL AS ANGELS/SERAPHIM/REPHAIM/CHERUBIM/ETC B-BIBLE NEVER SAYS EARTH/MAN IS AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE OR CREATION!

  • @spiritualanarchist8162

    @spiritualanarchist8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garoldteigs1116 What 'Last time'? Don't know why you are responding to my comment this way .I never claimed any of the things you seem to feel obliged to explain . I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

  • @OldNavajoTricks

    @OldNavajoTricks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, we were making light and enjoying a laugh...

  • @brucekent3131
    @brucekent31313 жыл бұрын

    Quantum reality suggest we are both alone and not alone as hard as that can be to wrap one's mind around.

  • @cryptostevo

    @cryptostevo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you mean not alone and not not alone because we didn't observe it yet :)

  • @cosmikrelic4815

    @cosmikrelic4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @bruce kent: that's a nonsense use of quantum mechanics. if it is joke then it's funny, if you are serious then it's sad.

  • @thzzzt

    @thzzzt

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would explain why I'm single, yet I have PornHub.

  • @LorraElizabeth
    @LorraElizabeth2 жыл бұрын

    I hope the aliens are sending us help before we completely destroy earth and each other ✌🏼❤️🌍👽💫✨

  • @robertgreen9232

    @robertgreen9232

    Жыл бұрын

    Alien beings from another universe have been trying to give us messages for years nuclear they are scared for us

  • @BiGG_X
    @BiGG_X2 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of a time I was talking to a few friends and they were talking about a topic in agreement. Agreed about everything mentioned about it. Then the name of the person who initially talked about said topic was mentioned. 1 of these friends didnt like this person and suddenly everything was BS and agreement was gone. Its funny how people can agree on something until the name of someone they dont like is part of it. WHAT IF... "ALIENS" are our Gods? DO you lose faith or deny the possible source of where it began? In the end who knows. Nobody I know has ever talked to a alien or God. Lets face it, prayers is not the same as having a conversation and doesnt count as talking to God. I have seen some miracles and I do have faith, but not sure in what. I have faith in what I experienced, but not in what another man/woman tells me I should believe. What would people think about us and our technology 500 years in the past? What about 1000's of years in the past? We dont even build starships that can travel the stars yet, and we might have been considered godly in their eyes, and possibly considered a God. Also we cant ignore how many times scriptures have been translated and published. Errors and/or deceit also have a high probability. Has anyone ever wondered why there are scriptures locked away and have never been printed for anyone to read? Why is "GOD WORDS TO MANKIND" locked away for nobody to read? Could it say something that scares the church of losing their power? Jesus fought the church for using their power to exploit their position, and he was crucified for it. But hey, they say Jesus' death restored mankinds relationship with God.

  • @Urmashouldvswallowed

    @Urmashouldvswallowed

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ur right did u know the Catholic Church edited the bible and removed parts of it because it didn’t fit their mono world view I’m talking about the book of Enoch etc that ac give weight to the whole “aliens were our gods” theory if u look at it from that perspective it all makes sense it’s just that ppl of that age had nothing to compare what they were seeing they didn’t our vocab and didn’t have the technology we have. They couldn’t say oh there’s a spaceship with aliens on it they’d say something like a wheel of fire appeared in the sky and the sky god decended now does that make sense? Is it really that crazy to say that? (The wheel of fire I spoke about was referring to ezekiel)

  • @BiGG_X

    @BiGG_X

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Urmashouldvswallowed I do know of that book. Vocabulary of the time is very important and people overlook it or take it out of context... Or reword to fit their purpose

  • @Urmashouldvswallowed

    @Urmashouldvswallowed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BiGG_X exactly, all throughout the world there is stories about “sky gods” here in Ireland we have dagba who build new grange in India they have hundreds of “gods” i believe reincarnation is real and death is a human construct cuz it’s only the beginning not the end I think when they say in the bible u go to hell or heaven when U die it’s a representation of the planet or life you will be reincarnated into and ur actions in this life depict where you will go. The Egyptians believed in this that souls throughout the universe are reincarnated onto different planets. Scientists are starting to believe in reincarnation cuz there’s many stories from ppl out there of past lives but there’s also ppl who remember being on different planets whether we should believe them or not idk

  • @alexandria2243

    @alexandria2243

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Urmashouldvswallowed unrelated, but when I read, 'only the beginning' in that context all I could think of was tommorrow never knows by the Beatles and that one line that goes, "I'll play the game 'existence' to the end, of the beginning....of the beginning...". Fascinating song.

  • @janicejohnson6438

    @janicejohnson6438

    2 жыл бұрын

    What scriptures have been locked away??

  • @nolan412
    @nolan4123 жыл бұрын

    On one hand: God spent 9 billion years doing stuff before spending a week making Earth. On the other hand: the aliens could have a selfies with Moses and Jesus.

  • @cramsaile6790

    @cramsaile6790

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but only a moron is a fundamentalist Christian. I grew up Catholic, and I never learned the Earth was actually made in a week, or that the Earth is only 6000 years old. I learned that evolution is real, that the big bang is real. The stories in the old testament are just that, stories, that were *inspired* by God by a primitive people in the desert to understand the world around them. What's amazing is how they could conceptualize the world around them, and that this tribe of people are still around today unlike all the others around them, and that unlike all the others they are the only monotheistic ones.

  • @RoyCosioVegantennis

    @RoyCosioVegantennis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cramsaile6790 so, Catholics think that the bible is BS? Now, who made God ? (Since all is based on creationism) Do not come up with an answer because no one knows except religious people that are committed to believe their story.

  • @maestrom5872

    @maestrom5872

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RoyCosioVegantennis I don’t understand why people still ask that question. God is not material so therefore he doesn’t require a beginning or “maker”. He has existed outside of this universe forever, no beginning, no end. Have you never read the Bible or any other scripture?

  • @maestrom5872

    @maestrom5872

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RoyCosioVegantennis and no, we don’t think the Bible is bs, the story of creation was Gods way of telling the people how things came to be. The people of the time weren’t capable of understanding science as we know it today, so thus, God had to explain things to them in a simple, more metaphorical way.

  • @RoyCosioVegantennis

    @RoyCosioVegantennis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maestrom5872 thanks for clarifying things.... I just wonder so many things... How do you know all that about God (male? Or female?)...what's the proof on all what you are saying other than a believe...you cannot be sure..just a believe, which is fine. Still not convinced that there is a God...can anyone explain please?

  • @asmrwarlock1845
    @asmrwarlock18453 жыл бұрын

    "In your world, I have another name. You must learn to know me by it." -Aslan: The Chronicles of Narnia

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who tells the story after the book closes?... Humans and their Gods... What a temporary machine in the end.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    A God who amazingly acts just like any King/Dictator of the past - demanding obedience & loyalty and rewarding accordingly Amazing how billions seem brainwashed by such primitive views of God

  • @clarkkent52

    @clarkkent52

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not aliens, fallen angels masquerading as benevolent space beings who will lie and say they are our creators who came to seed the earth long ago...it is all part of the lucerferian agenda, the mass deception spoken of in Revelation. Dont fall for it.!!

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clarkkent52 ok you go live in you fake fantasy world, we choose to live in the Real world! Honestly, how any educated person posts such drivel is beyond me

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clarkkent52 According to Christianity, the Bible, and the Old/New Testament etc.... That much is written by humans. And like humans... May the Gods of Mankind last for a time... The God Slayer shall return once more.

  • @kuyab9122
    @kuyab912211 ай бұрын

    This episode was such a comic relief for me in a good way. This is the first time that I can't take Closer To Truth seriously.

  • @jayjayn007
    @jayjayn0072 жыл бұрын

    Surely everything depends on what the aliens we meet have got to say for themselves. Say for instance If they know much better our universe's history, and if so a God/s creation theory to the universe as well.

  • @francesco5581
    @francesco55813 жыл бұрын

    If cultures on different continents had each own their "God" or "deities" why different space races cant have a similar idea of God ? The problem is that the episodes always pitch against dogmatic religion against "atheist science" ... Forgetting all the ocean that there is in the middle. Btw listening a NASA "historian" that talk about a "center of the universe" is frightening .

  • @thesavantart8480

    @thesavantart8480

    3 жыл бұрын

    You made a big mistake there. Those cultures are all human cultures. Human beings came up with the idea of a god. We don't know if aliens can come up with a god. There are many arguments for both sides but at the end of the day even us humans are becoming more atheistic and agnostic. If aliens do believe in a god, the chancea are that, just like us, they will become more agnostic or atheistic.

  • @francesco5581

    @francesco5581

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thesavantart8480 It's fun but despite materialism, communism, scientism, spirtual/religious people will increase in the next century (due to China). the peak of atheism was in the end of 60s early 70s but always quite low . I do agree with you on the fact that more or less the majority of the population is in reality agnostic BUT the overwhelming majority will always have an idea of spirituality, always .

  • @Boogieplex

    @Boogieplex

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@francesco5581 The facts dont agree with you. A quick google search will easily show atheism has increased significantly over time.And the more educated people get,the less people will believe in a god.If history is any sign of whats to come,I suspect the people of the future will look back on Christians(and all other religions) and laugh,similar in the way we laugh at the Greeks for worshipping Zues. Though humanity has the insatiable urge to worship SOMETHING...wether it be a sun god, or love god,or rain god.... i find it all amusing. But there it is.

  • @francesco5581

    @francesco5581

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Boogieplex that's why i wrote spiritual/religious... Religions will grow in the next future due to fertility rates. That is in all polls. Then i think that religions will fall to be substituted by spirituality. In USA they put all together in the "nones" but is dumb. the atheist/materialist population will always be a fraction of spiritualist/religious. It's more or less the same percentage of 1916 (of course number grow since populations grows). looking at the whole problem as a "i am a science fanboy !! So i am smart !! you believe in the ark !!" is dumb. The existential questions are deeper.

  • @francesco5581

    @francesco5581

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Jef van Becker yes i agree

  • @biswabose8577
    @biswabose85772 жыл бұрын

    As always Great subject discussed ! Rationally thinking , considering Christian idea of GOD ( including Jesus as savior) has not been successful in convincing the entire mankind of this Blue planet itself, the thought of applying the same GOD ideology to other planets potentially more intelligent creatures somehow seems to be little ridiculous thinking !

  • @leighfloyd6519

    @leighfloyd6519

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe but with the idea of a god it's no stretch.

  • @fredlettuce7962
    @fredlettuce79623 жыл бұрын

    I don’t believe this series has me closer to any universal truth, but it’s certainly thought provoking....

  • @tomrhodes1629

    @tomrhodes1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, this series won't get you anywhere near where you want to go. But I authored a book that will. Give me a "click" if you want to know more...

  • @fredlettuce7962

    @fredlettuce7962

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tomrhodes1629 Right, Trumps the antichrist, you crack pot, see a shrink

  • @anthonycostello6055
    @anthonycostello6055 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Kuhn would cite actual theologians who make the claim that human beings are special in the way he is using the term. The way Vakoch explained it is entirely coherent and the way I think most Christians would see it. Especially given the doctrine of human depravity.

  • @goduniverse1024
    @goduniverse10243 жыл бұрын

    The Universe is a terrifying Garden

  • @fonainfinity5964

    @fonainfinity5964

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @garystill143

    @garystill143

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fonainfinity5964 !

  • @garystill143

    @garystill143

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fonainfinity5964 w

  • @garystill143

    @garystill143

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eea

  • @garystill143

    @garystill143

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fonainfinity5964 ae

  • @ferdinandkraft857
    @ferdinandkraft8573 жыл бұрын

    The depth and serenity of these videos contrast with the shallowness and affected arrogance of most of the comments down here.

  • @ricardoignacio916

    @ricardoignacio916

    2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to KZread and social media in general. Most people claim love, peace, respect, and equality, but give people anonymity and the truth is quite opposite of what most claim.

  • @mayanksoni83
    @mayanksoni833 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work 🙏🙏

  • @mikehurd8342
    @mikehurd83422 жыл бұрын

    I recently had a spirit attachment, someone was suddenly murdered in a house I bought. I went thru a religious person to try and make this spirt or consciousness ascend. We held hands and prayed at the location where this happened , well that didn’t work. I then got a more religious person and after more rituals that didn’t work. Night after night I felt my mattress kneeling around me and waves of a magnetic like force weaving in and out of me wherever I was. I tried reke that didn’t work , then I got a connected person who instructed me to understand consciousness and spiritual awareness and making this attachment ascend. After many weeks of watching many videos on you tube and practicing ascension techniques with spirit attachment , I was successful in getting this persons consciousness to ascend. This led me to another path to understand where this consciousness ascends too, with near death experiences, the paranormal world, reincarnation,remote viewing, channeling alien beings are all examples of a real existence that is present . I am determined to understand how religion and a higher level of consciousness are interconnected.I would like to know how someone like Dr. Steven Greer sees this subject he is someone is very knowledgeable and, credible . That you for video which helps me get to be a more open minded person.

  • @gregedgerton3390
    @gregedgerton33903 жыл бұрын

    I don't believe it will ever be the human experience, such that no question of life remains unanswered.

  • @thzzzt

    @thzzzt

    2 жыл бұрын

    They will be answered, but that doesn't guarantee the answers will be correct.

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thzzzt Depends... The collective knowledge of all life and all death, shows the fate of worlds. But the living humans lack such comprehension. It's the reason why humanity has not changed outside of technological evolution. But why try to steer mankind?... They are on their own, even if Earth is their grave. Everyone has a place... Only very few are willing to change the course of Fate... While others shall meet the Reaper... I fault no one in the end... Another planet or another species can always try again... Just like mankind.

  • @LowMedow
    @LowMedow3 жыл бұрын

    What If Theres Only 1 Other Alien Race.

  • @jeremymr

    @jeremymr

    3 жыл бұрын

    What If Theres Only 3 Other Alien Race.

  • @atheist63

    @atheist63

    2 жыл бұрын

    What if ''aliens'' are actually earthling who live in the depth of the seas and are millions of years more advanced than humans.

  • @My_Alchemical_Romance
    @My_Alchemical_Romance Жыл бұрын

    Great job on this!

  • @zeroonetime
    @zeroonetime11 ай бұрын

    We humans, are the Aliens searching for our missing glasses...

  • @1p6t1gms
    @1p6t1gms3 жыл бұрын

    I have heard this food chain talk early on in life, "Mr. Chambers, don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, To Serve Man, it's... it's a cookbook!" I guess all of the lifelong long learned, poor, hungry and lean students of knowledge have little to worry about. Besides they would have read that book in no time and sidestepped for the current crowd that is so eager to travel and perish from the world.

  • @cosmikrelic4815

    @cosmikrelic4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    streaming consciousness is a valid literary device, but it is not useful for conveying information in this case.

  • @lisasue4520
    @lisasue45202 жыл бұрын

    I feel like what we call aliens might actually be angels. The way their physical appearance is described in the Bible sounds rather terrifying and not at all the image we have in mind

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh God save us from these religious nuts

  • @StrangerThanWeThink

    @StrangerThanWeThink

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramaraksha01 If you ever seen a ufo. And the description of a angel. There's nothing far off by that comparison.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@StrangerThanWeThink Ever heard of Heaven's gate - a Death Cult that said once they see a sign, they kill themselves and Aliens, your Angels, will come in a star ship and take them to Heaven! Your religion says Suicide is a sin but otherwise it's also another Death Cult

  • @StrangerThanWeThink

    @StrangerThanWeThink

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramaraksha01 I dont care for religion. I understand your turned off by the idea of religion or because Man has corrupted Religion. But Im looking at this at a spiritual perspective. I believe a spiritual realm exists. And I also believe there's a similarity between - UFO's and Angels / Aliens.

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StrangerThanWeThink Call it "spiritual realm", Heaven or whatever, it is the SAME TIRED OLD STORY - EASY, LAZY LIFE, EASY LAZY LIFE! Joy, happiness, sit around doing nothing - a happy Retirement Home for eternity! I am just tired of this God created this world, this earth, gave you this Life. Can you see this Life as a GIFT from God? Because life is harsh, nothing is GIVEN, nothing is easy, the weak, the coward, the lazy & the shameless have given up Some turn to crime, others turn to Dictators like Putin, Saddam, lick their boots and are GIVEN the good life, others become prostitutes/gigolos/leeches/freeloaders - live off rich Sugar Daddies It is these people that religions target, Death Cults target - making cheap promises of a wonderful after life - Religions like Christianity & Islam have installed a Putin God in the sky - get down on our knees, grovel to him and he will be pleased and GIVE us the eternal good life! What a sad statement of our education & intelligence that these are the top religions of the day! Your "Spiritual realm" is similar - the same old - "I will be happy, I will be at peace" Ask simple questions like - Can you describe a DAY? What does one DO in this "spiritual realm"? and you have no answer

  • @chyxz757
    @chyxz7572 жыл бұрын

    great and informative video!

  • @hokumai8782
    @hokumai87823 жыл бұрын

    Thanks thanks Kuhn.

  • @R355UR3C7
    @R355UR3C72 жыл бұрын

    I think there is always the possibility, we are the first intelligent lifeforms. Considering how young the universe is. It's a possibility.

  • @janicejohnson6438

    @janicejohnson6438

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why do you say the universe is young? How are billions and trillions of years old "young."

  • @R355UR3C7

    @R355UR3C7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@janicejohnson6438 we haven't even reached the halfway point of the predicted lifetime of the universe. There is much more time too exist after us. So I'm just saying there are a lot more opportunities for life to exist after us.

  • @robertgreen9232

    @robertgreen9232

    Жыл бұрын

    Okay so look if God is all that and he sent his only son down the cross for our sins and if we confess our sins he forgives us then why in the hell that's the devil exist why doesn't he just smash them out if he's almighty God why why didn't he get rid of him. From the beginning why didn't he

  • @julianbristow4793
    @julianbristow47933 жыл бұрын

    Alien or human intelligence of any kind can be useful and GOOD as long as it used for constructive things, but on the opposite end, the evil force is not constructive but rather destructive and therefore wouldn’t serve any purpose.

  • @vandalsavage6990
    @vandalsavage69903 жыл бұрын

    Rick still prays to that dude named hey zeus ....but throws the middle finger up once the deed is done

  • @realitywave
    @realitywave2 жыл бұрын

    One of the reason the aliens won't contact us directly is that we are so superstitious that it keeps us dangerously stupid. Obviously there is no god.

  • @colinball6407

    @colinball6407

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, obviously 🤪

  • @seymourbutts9085
    @seymourbutts90852 жыл бұрын

    Whose image are we made in again ? All this UFO talk has me thinking.

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting how humans think they where created in God's image when their very design is but a limited function for time. Both the atom and the DNA is the core of human existence. Everything else is merely a byproduct of sentient comprehension and desire. Kin to the animal kingdom and the grand cosmos. Can a God(s) truly exist?... Yes... But not one exclusively spoken by mankind. But the loss of knowledge limits the comprehension of mortals. For even the thirteen core dimensions uphold the ancient cosmos from before the primordial era of existence. Divinity is simply a new form of power, but it is not exempt. But to speak bluntly... Why ask what the stars have done?

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Tom C Humans and their scriptures... How many worlds must be created and destroyed to only show the reality of your Gods. Then again... The human race is not my first. Return to your dead Gods. May they exist for a single eternity, or may you stay blind to old books upon the flame. Well... Mortals believe God is eternal and his realms are everlasting... I'll let their temporary souls believe in their meaningless faith. Humans... Your kin can't even claim one religion; let alone, to even commit to one. And you all desire to impose your religions upon the other sentient existences... How disappointing. In the end, enjoy Heaven, Hell, or whatever. My return is inevitable... For even the omnipotent ones knows my name.

  • @royedwards51

    @royedwards51

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Tom C Thats from Frankenstein you twit

  • @billgold4689

    @billgold4689

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't be fooled by the devil, this alian agenda has happened before, in Sumaria, Mesipataina, India, Egypt, gods from the sky, Annunaki came and gave us technology and said they were gods. Jesus is coming back soon, the current world catastrophic events are all pridicted by Jesus 2000 years ago, and in the prophets even older books. Bible is the truth, Jesus is the truth and he wants to set you free from death, hell and the devil. Call on his name and you will be saved. Don't take the mark of the beast and worship the entichrist who will soon appear as a one world leader. Hope you make it. Godbless

  • @kryoboy36

    @kryoboy36

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chuck norris made God in his image.

  • @FieryLeo13
    @FieryLeo132 жыл бұрын

    What's going to blow the mind of humanity, and what some are gonna have issues accepting is that if we do discover an ETI, and then furthermore learn that it is they who had a hand in creating us!

  • @alexcajiao7489

    @alexcajiao7489

    2 жыл бұрын

    Something like this already has been written. Long ago in the book of revelation in the Bible. That the devil and his angels are going to be thrown down out of the heavens to the earth and most of mankind will marvel at them and there not going to appear as evil (the devil and the Antichrist and the false prophet ) but as something the world has never seen before. But it’s a deception . To deceive all those who refused to believe the truth of GOD about his Son Jesus the Savior.

  • @l4c166

    @l4c166

    2 жыл бұрын

    We could be just a Alien ant farm...

  • @thepaganone3326

    @thepaganone3326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexcajiao7489 satan is not in heaven anymore so your point is invalid.

  • @someguynamedsteve203

    @someguynamedsteve203

    2 жыл бұрын

    We did more specifically a traitor had a hand in Makeing humanity he almost Wiped out the whole galaxy just for his project I was extraction a bit 99.999999999999999999999999999999% of all life

  • @punkmanmatthew

    @punkmanmatthew

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thepaganone3326 Heavens is the sky and space not the actual the place Heaven

  • @marinoceccotti9155
    @marinoceccotti9155 Жыл бұрын

    What would be absolutely devastating is to find... humans on another world. Humans with no relation to Earth whatsoever (no panspermia). That would trigger waaaaay more questions than non-humans aliens.

  • @willemesterhuyse2547
    @willemesterhuyse25473 ай бұрын

    What they are assuming is human-centric: aliens may not have fallen in sin and may not need saving.

  • @apparentbeing
    @apparentbeing3 жыл бұрын

    Religion develops whenever necessary. We no longer believe in many things we once believed in.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162

    @spiritualanarchist8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank god we don't....Some believe in a lot of other nonse though.

  • @psyseraphim

    @psyseraphim

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spiritualanarchist8162 yep lots of people believe in all kinds of irrational mumbo jumbo and always see everything else as irrational yet don't like to confront their own irrationality.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162

    @spiritualanarchist8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@psyseraphim Well said. Even worse, they often feel the need to tell others what they should believe, think or say.

  • @psyseraphim

    @psyseraphim

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spiritualanarchist8162 I'm all for people believing whatever they want as long as they keep that to themselves as soon as they want to put it out in a public forum then I think they're automatically open to critique. Except for fascism, fascism can go take a run n jump. That is an idea that absolutely should not be tolerated in any way shape or form.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162

    @spiritualanarchist8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@psyseraphim I agree. I don't know where you live, but in most European countries (openly ) Nazism and Fascist rhetoric are against the law. As are showing swastikas and such in public. A see a lot of people claiming every opinion is equal, and even nazi's should have the freedom of speech. etc. I don't think so. Especially now the generation that witnessed the holocaust nad Nazi occupation dies out, it's even more important not to forget what they did, and will do again if they regain power. I grew up hearing personal anecdotes from family members , but the younger ones don't have that anymore .So Nazi free speech ? Ha..Fuck em.!

  • @7rich79
    @7rich793 жыл бұрын

    If we discovered intelligent life elsewhere, or more if intelligent life elsewhere came to visit, it would be very difficult not to be overwhelmed. Just by the act of visiting us they would have an understanding of science that we are nowhere near of achieving, let alone comprehend. The sheer weight of that realisation would shake religion at its core, because what would be a reasonable foundation for claiming that although we don't have their intelligence, we have a superior or at least equal spirituality?

  • @alcaponedarius7730

    @alcaponedarius7730

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will never wipe out the one and only concern of who we are and where the so called universe and them aliens comes from. If u think deeply u may realize that arrival of aliens will cause more chaos to science than religion

  • @leighfloyd6519

    @leighfloyd6519

    Жыл бұрын

    Assuming they don't believe in the same god

  • @leighfloyd6519

    @leighfloyd6519

    Жыл бұрын

    Aliens could be smarter but have no soul? If that is the case then they would be organic computers without a real conches being and no material self awareness.

  • @peter9477

    @peter9477

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@alcaponedarius7730It wouldn't cause any chaos for science. Science makes no predictions about whether life exists elsewhere, so it would merely take this as a useful data point in our understanding of the universe. Why do you say chaos?

  • @thykingdomcome4241
    @thykingdomcome42412 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of salvation: this documentary posed two questions while ignoring a very obvious third: Who's to say that ETs would NEED salvation in the first place? This segment keeps focusing on the idea that either ETs do not get salvation or that ETs get salvation through the same sacrifice of Jesus OR another divine being that embodies the same spirit Christ embodied. But this is assuming these ETs need saving at all.

  • @ToTheeOBlessedJoseph
    @ToTheeOBlessedJoseph2 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating 👍

  • @Seahawks916
    @Seahawks9163 жыл бұрын

    I think you'd have to be able to demonstrate the existence of god(s) before you can posit whether the existence of aliens would undermine it/them first.

  • @fotofillholland

    @fotofillholland

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wherever you could prove god exists empirically or not is almost irrelevant, the problem is that billions believe that a god exists. Things don't really need to be proven to exist to still cause conflict, heck seeking proof in a god is enough to generate conflict in itself.

  • @thzzzt

    @thzzzt

    2 жыл бұрын

    It certainly will undermine various religious beliefs, and that's really what "God" in the title is referring to.

  • @Boogieplex

    @Boogieplex

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think this channel subtly tips their hat at athiesm.This video is yet just another hint, and I applaud them.

  • @absolstoryoffiction6615

    @absolstoryoffiction6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    Humans and their Gods... Extinction is the God Slayer. In the end... I am what human existence fails to surpass; yet, I would like to see them exceed even my own power. One day, they must or such a choice can never be chosen again. Upon the fate of the dead world, there is more at stake than this pitiful human species. But try, before everything comes to an end. For even Gods will not be able to save anyone nor themselves by that time. Terra... Or as humanity calls it... The Earth is not new.

  • @johnj.anthonymcquade6876

    @johnj.anthonymcquade6876

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to believe or imagine they're is a GOD (s) but with the things that happen its seemingly impossible to consider that god is still in charge

  • @bakmanthetitan
    @bakmanthetitan3 жыл бұрын

    A Christian saying that "Little Green Jesus" is "pretty ridiculous" is very funny. Like an immaculately conceived middle-eastern magician is totally normal, but the same thing on another planet is absurd.

  • @frankhernandez6883
    @frankhernandez68832 жыл бұрын

    Lets HOPE intelligent HUMANS do it first!

  • @jamesrey3221
    @jamesrey32213 жыл бұрын

    Three things need to happen to get intelligent life like a human - 1> Life from non-life. 2> One specie (man) with consciousness (to build his science and civilization) out of the approximately 50 billion species that had appeared on Earth, only humans evolved intelligence, suggesting a very low probability and 3> A planet and a solar system exactly similar to the earth and the sun, located in the same safe zone in a galaxy, but even in similar environments, the chance of getting “humanoids” is minimal, and most environments will be vastly different. - All these chances and probabilities need to come together. - you need a leap of faith for an Alien or God.

  • @leighfloyd6519

    @leighfloyd6519

    Жыл бұрын

    I understand but the main point of the argument is that the universe is amazingly huge therefore many earths could exist. I do not agree with this but that is the point they are trying to make I think.

  • @jamesrey3221

    @jamesrey3221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leighfloyd6519 Roger Penrose has calculated-based on only one of the hundreds of parameters of the physical universe-that the probability of the emergence of a life-giving cosmos was 1 divided by 10, raised to the power 10, and again raised to the power of 123. This is a number as close to zero as anyone has ever imagined. (The probability is much, much smaller than that of winning the Mega Millions jackpot for more days than the universe has been in existence.)

  • @leighfloyd6519

    @leighfloyd6519

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @foxmulder4653
    @foxmulder46532 жыл бұрын

    Every civilisation has written history of beings coming from the sky. They've been interacting with us for 1000s of years

  • @craiglammasreach1242

    @craiglammasreach1242

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let’s hope your right ay jef

  • @Wong-Jack-Man

    @Wong-Jack-Man

    2 жыл бұрын

    Trust me if anglos went to timbuktu and heard stories about a self sacrificing human who took the form of a God to redeem mankind it would sound ludicrous. I’m not saying that in a disparaging way. Religion played an integral part in social evolution and for that it should be appreciated but should fall solely and entirely under the discipline of humanities to be studied.

  • @StrongerThanBigfoot

    @StrongerThanBigfoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where are they today though?

  • @Wong-Jack-Man

    @Wong-Jack-Man

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StrongerThanBigfoot The evolution of life and complex intelligent life is extremely difficult to evolve. Although I subscribe to the theory of macro evolution I also understand the magnitude and the mathematical odds of complex life to evolve. The probability of proteins to selectively evolve at a random time into a system to be useful is like 10 to the 30th power. Yes its a numbers game with the universe. Given a “trillion” chances sure sooner or later intelligent life will evolve. But given that, how many evolved but then got wiped out by natural disasters or nuclear war and those that even made it to intelligent life even greater than us but never quite made it far enough to make contact before their sun died out and countless others. I believe intelligent life is extremely hard to evolve. Our earth is 4.6 billions yrs and yet we are here at this point. I believe there is countless simple life on other planets and some intelligent life but very far and few in between in out vast universe. We are special. Lets appreciate our life and each other.

  • @volkanayyldz889

    @volkanayyldz889

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Jef van Becker so did Jesus travel from galaxy to galaxy from planet to planet to die for the alien 👽 sins and reincarnate on another planet to rinse and repeat the cycle? God did not create man from in its own image , man created god in their own image. The universe does not revolve around middle eastern abrahamic fantasy religion which borrowed from earlier civilizations.

  • @IIrandhandleII
    @IIrandhandleII3 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't undermine God, it would undermine the man made holy texts that have been used by religions.

  • @rareone5041

    @rareone5041

    3 жыл бұрын

    adfasd Native tribes all over the world were praising their “Creator” long before colonisers came along with their bibles! 😏

  • @odiupickusclone-1526

    @odiupickusclone-1526

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rareone5041 Creator is an alien.

  • @suatustel746

    @suatustel746

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@odiupickusclone-1526 anything anybody out of this world classed as an alien

  • @IIrandhandleII

    @IIrandhandleII

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rareone5041 that is true, man made religions are just humans trying to explain the world around them with epic fails.

  • @marianaturda

    @marianaturda

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of those texts must be true. Let's try to find which one it is. What do you think of the one that describes in detail future events?

  • @taanbrown4275
    @taanbrown42752 жыл бұрын

    Love this stuff

  • @sujeeshmathew8808
    @sujeeshmathew88083 жыл бұрын

    Great discussions...but one suggestion...discuss topics like this from the perspective of other great world religions also like Buddhism and Hinduism.

  • @cosmikrelic4815

    @cosmikrelic4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was mentioned in the video that it was not such a problem for some other religions. it seems to be a problem mainly for those that have a son of god type person, that is here to save humanity.

  • @garethwynn01
    @garethwynn012 жыл бұрын

    It's so strange for me to hear people trying to reconcile the existence of two things, both of which we know nothing about or whether they even exist at all. We're specks of dust on another spec of dust in a potentially infinite universe.

  • @thzzzt

    @thzzzt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yet, that's what belief is all about-- it's grappling with things admittedly beyond our own comprehension. Belief continues where knowledge ends.

  • @cordelearts

    @cordelearts

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s just good philosophical discussions to questions that we will never get answered. It’s like when they say “how will the world end?” I’m like even if you can take your best guess, you’d be annihilated out of existence before it does end, even if we lived a trillion years.

  • @vinitkumar2644
    @vinitkumar26443 жыл бұрын

    I think, some of these great physicists must read more into Hinduism and conclude whether thts more logical and inclusive.

  • @cosmikrelic4815

    @cosmikrelic4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, christian theology is so diverse, none of them agree on much at all. i'm not sure that other religeons are much different really, though from my limited understanding some are more consistant. but, there is no evidence for any of them.

  • @garoldteigs1116

    @garoldteigs1116

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cosmikrelic4815 FOR THE LAST TIME!.... ive continued to educate folks who dont really know the bible at ALL!!! 1-the bible NEVER SAYS man and earth at the center of the universe OR creation!!! period!!! that idea started during THE ENLIGHTENMENT PERIOD OF HISTORY!!! before that time, man and earth were thought to be at the bottom of the celestial hierarchy! 2-the bible also NEVER SAYS man is the ONLY CREATION!!! if fact, im quite shocked how bible church goers dont even read the bible on this very subject!!! take 2nd peter for example-"BOLD AND ARROGANT, MEN ARE NOT AFRAID TO SLANDER CELESTIAL BEINGS, AND EVEN THOUGH ANGELS!!...ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THESE BEINGS, EVEN THEY DO NOT BRING RAILING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD!"" also, revelation talks about "living beings" that are NOT ANGELS as well! so a god, if it exists, can create whatever it wants, but lets not keep these old refuted ideas alive that are NOT EVEN IN SCRIPTURE!!!!! A-BIBLE SAYS THERE ARE CELESTIAL BEINGS THAT ARE NOT ANGELS, AS WELL AS ANGELS/SERAPHIM/REPHAIM/CHERUBIM/ETC B-BIBLE NEVER SAYS EARTH/MAN IS AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE OR CREATION!

  • @cosmikrelic4815

    @cosmikrelic4815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garoldteigs1116 if this is the last time i don't remember the first. why are you telling me what the bible doesn't say? i'm not the slightest bit interested in what it says let alone what it doesn't..

  • @chanhkk8
    @chanhkk82 жыл бұрын

    we are definitely not alone

  • @JohnDoe-gm5tt
    @JohnDoe-gm5tt2 жыл бұрын

    Would aliens undermine a fairy tale character... more than likely lol.

  • @Boogieplex

    @Boogieplex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @robloxunspacecommand1935
    @robloxunspacecommand19352 жыл бұрын

    Personally I really think that if an alien civilization threatened or invaded Earth, it would force everyone on every corner of the world to unite. That would be something to see

  • @sthamansinha243

    @sthamansinha243

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you really think that then read the three body problem trilogy by Lui Cixin. It tackles this exact problem.

  • @heartofthunder1440

    @heartofthunder1440

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually your on to something. But I see the pattern in your theory a different way than what your thinking 🤔 about. Yes to the idea of being United, but it’s more or less like having everyone on the same page so to speak 🗣 in having peace and harmony with each other instead of all the chaos that you see now.

  • @KeithDraws

    @KeithDraws

    2 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it. The a-holes in charge would all want to be the one in charge. The A-holes would probably save the Aliens the trouble of destroying humanity by doing it themselves and we would not have a say in it because democracy is so effective.

  • @radiationhazardsfather6310

    @radiationhazardsfather6310

    2 жыл бұрын

    War of the worlds be like

  • @continentalgin

    @continentalgin

    2 жыл бұрын

    You wouldn't want to see a space alien invasion. Check out... A Quiet Place and A Quiet Place 2.

  • @abcxyz6606
    @abcxyz66063 жыл бұрын

    Dont need alien, just Reason, logic, science, common sense underminds it

  • @fusionvision

    @fusionvision

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't need Religion, just Reason, logic, science, common sense underminds it .

  • @loudandclearmedia
    @loudandclearmedia Жыл бұрын

    It is very easy to, while attempting to comprehend the scale and complexity of the universe, conclude that there is likely a creator and also likely other intelligent life. One doesn't need to be at odds with the other, nor does my relationship with God and salvation need to pertain to or resemble any extra-terrestrial arrangement. My salvation is mine alone, as is theirs. There is nothing wrong with working or understanding within those bounds.

  • @andyf4292
    @andyf42923 жыл бұрын

    fairly likely that ET wont have the same ape-derived hangups that led us to invent gods

  • @kennethjohnson4456
    @kennethjohnson44562 жыл бұрын

    All life forms foreign to Earth, is extraterrestrial, by definition. We are living in a multidimensional universe. God has created all things, both visible and invisible. All of the Heavens and the Earth. Angels are Spirits in their being, their purpose is different from that of Man. They are superior in stature, and intelligence, compared to man, they also have the freedom to choose. They were created immortal, in the image of God, they have a everlasting life, thankful, willingly offering service to the praise and worship of their God and Creator. The Angels are in service to the perfection of God's Will, in all Creations, and Heavens. The rebellion of Lucifer, and a third of heaven's host of angels, caused the War in Heavens. At times we may entertain an angel, for we know, from the scriptures, they can visit the Realm of the Earth. Hebrews 13:2. All life from outside the Realm of Earth, is a extraterrestrial life form. Angels are always visiting earth. Just as was Adam, they likewise are called, the sons of God. Job 38:7. Plain Simple Truth. Jesus said, his kingdom is not of this world. 🌎 John 18:36. God's Word is Truth.

  • @larryfulkerson4505
    @larryfulkerson45053 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that exoplanet beings would be even less impressed with earth's scriptures than I am.

  • @7rich79

    @7rich79

    3 жыл бұрын

    Difficult to say. I remember a talk with the author Terry Pratchett (known for the Discworld series) where he asked the question about which was more special: a sun or a lamp post - the humourous answer is that lamp posts are more special because as far as we know these only exist on earth. From that angle perhaps they would be fascinated by the amount of time we spent creating and discussing the scriptures considering all the other things we could have spent our time on.

  • @ultrainstinctgoku2509

    @ultrainstinctgoku2509

    3 жыл бұрын

    They'd be more impress with the scriptures and enslave you to mine gold. 🤣

  • @kpllc4209

    @kpllc4209

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait till they get here and give the sign of the cross like on the Simpsons.

  • @kyletucker6508

    @kyletucker6508

    3 жыл бұрын

    humility

  • @magneto44
    @magneto442 жыл бұрын

    I think the only thing it would undermine is the human ego, as most of us are the center of the universe

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson74612 жыл бұрын

    Would the same question apply to science? Or is our understanding universal? Can we proof that?

  • @joshkeeling82
    @joshkeeling823 жыл бұрын

    I really hope the universe is teeming with life, especially intelligent sentient beings. I really hope that is a fact. If the abiogenesis of life on earth turns out to be some kind of cosmic accident, when life was never supposed to exist, so to speak, we humans must change our ways and protect this spectacular diamond of a life harboring planet, in what appears to be an otherwise infinite lifeless universe. Sadly, most humans do not care about life other then their own. What a tragedy.

  • @user-us8lq5pq9l

    @user-us8lq5pq9l

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well also most thinks there’s a afterlife, so aids to bandage reality and make people continue to live in their fairytale

  • @nynjgreekcapo4430

    @nynjgreekcapo4430

    2 жыл бұрын

    Since there’s no real proof to tell us that there isn’t an afterlife...

  • @nynjgreekcapo4430

    @nynjgreekcapo4430

    2 жыл бұрын

    So far, the universe isn’t showing any signs of life anywhere except for earth. Accidents like this don’t just happen, especially with universal laws. If something happens by accident, it never symmetrically lines up the way we’ve found that everything here on earth does

  • @krono069

    @krono069

    2 жыл бұрын

    All life is destined to die eventually just as the universe itself is temporal. There was a beginning and there will be an end, regardless of any civilization's technology. If there is no such thing as the spirit, if there is no life beyond death, then physical life is truly pointless.

  • @steppahouse

    @steppahouse

    2 жыл бұрын

    Evolution = tragedy. Hobbes was right.

  • @Stiffjab71
    @Stiffjab712 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to keep this very simple: try to imagine people of the earth one or two (or more) millenniums ago watching UFOs in the skies with beings coming down to earth then try to imagine people of the earth NOT calling these beings "GODS". Ciao a tutti

  • @mrs210

    @mrs210

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anunaki and kaballah have some hints of a kind of reincarnating ,planet ferris wheel. ..but from where did the anunaki get the soups that entered their creations? Or Adam or aliens.Do they reproduce? Do they believe in money? Why do they not just come invade or occupy earth if they like?

  • @evertthernandez7099
    @evertthernandez70992 жыл бұрын

    Worst case scenario: ET's attending Sunday's mega churches

  • @mikemattingly9181
    @mikemattingly91812 ай бұрын

    This was a wild conversation with radical "what-ifs" based on absolutely nothing at all....

  • @MountainFisher
    @MountainFisher3 жыл бұрын

    As for SETI it hasn't produced any evidence for its belief system, yet the SETI lady and man had the best answers for the program's question. That kind of surprised me. When talking about the influence of Aristotle on the Medieval Roman Church if one looks deep into the Galileo incident his biggest detractors were the scholars from The Academy who were heavily influenced by Aristotle and not the Pope. Something usually not mentioned was that Galileo was an insulting fellow and wrote scathing satire about The Academy giving the Pope his friend and defender little choice from the uproar from the scholars, so he muzzled Galileo. It's much shortened, but it is what it was. The bottom line is that Aristotle's teachings didn't match with the Bible's teachings at quite a few points.

  • @odiupickusclone-1526
    @odiupickusclone-15263 жыл бұрын

    To be saved? Saved? What a stupid notion...

  • @Obeijin

    @Obeijin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Saved from what ?

  • @odiupickusclone-1526

    @odiupickusclone-1526

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Obeijin It just came to my mind : Dear God, you've just created me and the first next thing you have to do is to save me from something? For God sake, you can't be serious, can you? And that something is nothing less than eternal fire? Are you kidding me? Why would you send me (or anyone else besides Bill Gates &co.) to some creepy place like that (unless you save me, whatever that means)? Because some guy did something wrong thousands years ago? And you expect me to believe that? It doesn't make sense to me, at all, at all, and you know it, so why would you ask of me to believe something so insane as that theory really is? Why?

  • @tomrhodes1629

    @tomrhodes1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Obeijin You asked the proper question, which most have not asked. "Saved from what?" And the answer is this: Saved from LIMITATION. You are a limitless Being that is temporarily experiencing limitation. And if you want to know HOW and WHY you fell into limitation, and HOW to escape limitation, I wrote the book that relays this information. Give me a "click' if you want to know more....

  • @tomrhodes1629

    @tomrhodes1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@realitycheck1231 I wrote a definitive book that will eventually prove to be world-changing, and it's based on "A Course in Miracles." The only reason you don't know about my book is because of men's egos. Jon Mundy indicated that it is one of the most important books he has ever read, but he chose to keep it secret because it proves that some of his and Kenneth Wapnick's teachings are highly-flawed. And Kenneth refused to read the book, but he would have learned a lot if he had, I promise you. And that was probably what he was afraid of. Give me a "click" if you want to know more...

  • @tomrhodes1629

    @tomrhodes1629

    3 жыл бұрын

    P.S. I don't receive KZread comment notifications, but I can be reached through my website contact page.

  • @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
    @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 Жыл бұрын

    Humans tend to ignore any change that messes with their brain too much, because the brain storage system is like Jenga, and falls down when you remove a part of it.

  • @AngelEarth2011
    @AngelEarth20113 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on Ancient Astronaut Theory that argues God, gods, angels and other beings were and art Extra Terrestrials with advanced technology from other star systems that visited Earth in humanities ancient past?

  • @StrongerThanBigfoot

    @StrongerThanBigfoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe this more than the Bible’s story

  • @stephenblessed92
    @stephenblessed923 жыл бұрын

    Would Intelligent Aliens Undermine God? Nope. Next!

  • @tomlee2651
    @tomlee26513 жыл бұрын

    Enough speaking for God/gods already. Let Them speak for Themselves.

  • @kyletucker6508

    @kyletucker6508

    3 жыл бұрын

    he does. every second you are living he does

  • @cps_Zen_Run

    @cps_Zen_Run

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps god was one of those robo calls I hung up on. LOL.

  • @emmanueltafirenyika3613

    @emmanueltafirenyika3613

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kyletucker6508 nonsense

  • @iTACHI270
    @iTACHI2703 жыл бұрын

    I think it would undermine the stories told about God, then we would have to revisit those stories and what God actually is.

  • @garoldteigs1116

    @garoldteigs1116

    3 жыл бұрын

    FOR THE LAST TIME!.... ive continued to educate folks who dont really know the bible at ALL!!! 1-the bible NEVER SAYS man and earth at the center of the universe OR creation!!! period!!! that idea started during THE ENLIGHTENMENT PERIOD OF HISTORY!!! before that time, man and earth were thought to be at the bottom of the celestial hierarchy! 2-the bible also NEVER SAYS man is the ONLY CREATION!!! if fact, im quite shocked how bible church goers dont even read the bible on this very subject!!! take 2nd peter for example-"BOLD AND ARROGANT, MEN ARE NOT AFRAID TO SLANDER CELESTIAL BEINGS, AND EVEN THOUGH ANGELS!!...ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THESE BEINGS, EVEN THEY DO NOT BRING RAILING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD!"" also, revelation talks about "living beings" that are NOT ANGELS as well! so a god, if it exists, can create whatever it wants, but lets not keep these old refuted ideas alive that are NOT EVEN IN SCRIPTURE!!!!! A-BIBLE SAYS THERE ARE CELESTIAL BEINGS THAT ARE NOT ANGELS, AS WELL AS ANGELS/SERAPHIM/REPHAIM/CHERUBIM/ETC B-BIBLE NEVER SAYS EARTH/MAN IS AT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE OR CREATION!

  • @johnsherrill326
    @johnsherrill3262 жыл бұрын

    Like the”ALIENS” wouldn’t be lying or anything.

  • @nivekvb
    @nivekvb3 жыл бұрын

    What if they are Christians?

  • @amphimrca

    @amphimrca

    3 жыл бұрын

    😀

  • @BOeRNsupremacy

    @BOeRNsupremacy

    3 жыл бұрын

    They probably speak in fluent American English too.

  • @odiupickusclone-1526

    @odiupickusclone-1526

    3 жыл бұрын

    They attacked congres just the other day...

  • @mikebell4649
    @mikebell46493 жыл бұрын

    Why do u respect the theists proposition when it’s unreasonable ?

  • @OldNavajoTricks

    @OldNavajoTricks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speech, we all have the right to be wrong :-p

  • @Doriesep6622

    @Doriesep6622

    2 жыл бұрын

    They have to use those terms to negate them. Its a paradox. It's like us saying, so if God is a loving God then how can he send people to hell for finite sins? You could so say, so if your so called God...

  • @isombe2388
    @isombe23882 жыл бұрын

    God is Love and Love is respect without bias. So....

  • @scottstokes822
    @scottstokes8223 жыл бұрын

    The Planck institute does say we’re at the center of the universe!

  • @phoebus45
    @phoebus453 жыл бұрын

    God?? How can you undermine anything that doesn’t exist ?

  • @NeverTalkToCops1
    @NeverTalkToCops12 жыл бұрын

    "Would Intelligent Aliens Undermine God?" Let us hope they would not only undermine god, but erase this god nonsense from human beings.

  • @danielvanderputten8716

    @danielvanderputten8716

    2 жыл бұрын

    well spoken

  • @robloxunspacecommand1935

    @robloxunspacecommand1935

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @BillyMeierInFrenchBM

    @BillyMeierInFrenchBM

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is what Billy Meier explains.

  • @ExtraordinaryTK

    @ExtraordinaryTK

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seeing how we are as human, I don't think God's concept will easily be erased if anything some of us will see them as another form of God or worst. Weak-minded will always need closure.

  • @BillyMeierInFrenchBM

    @BillyMeierInFrenchBM

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ExtraordinaryTK Semjase: 20. Without exception, all governments on Earth are staffed by human beings who have the characteristic of addiction to might and profit. 21. Under the guise of peace and friendship they would only want to seize our beamships to be able to exercise absolute Gewalt-rule over the Earth with them. 22. But they would also try to conquer the outer space because they know no bounds. 23. However, they are not even able to on the Earth create peace and friendship between the countries - not even among the human beings in their own country. 24. How, then, should they be able to have such means of might at their disposal, such as are our beamships and their multifaceted facilities represent it! 25. There is no interest in showing ourselves to the general public. 26. Their consciousness is still short and small and confined in religious enslavement. 27. On the one hand, the Earth-humans would worship us as gods in their short-reflection, as they did already in earlier times; and on the other hand, there would be many among them who as criminals and greedy for might ones would seize our beamships. 28. But there are also those who are not to be forgotten, and there are countless millions of them, who would fall into complete hysteria and fall ill in consciousness. 29. For these reasons it is advisable for the time being to maintain contact only with individual Earth-humans and to via them slowly let the knowledge of our existence and tasks become known and to prepare them for what is to come. 30. We are no wardens or guardians of the Earth-humans; we only feel obliged to them because our originators were their ancestors, before they fled from the Earth as a result of self-inflicted catastrophes of some might-greedy ones and escaped to the Pleiades; by a hair's breadth, just as you have in the last decades deduced and calculated this according to all your knowledge. 31. Only a few facts turned out somewhat differently than you had suspected. 32. By and large, however, you have hit the heart and the bulk of history and were the first human being to find the corresponding truth. Billy Meier contact report 3

  • @ikramjelani8375
    @ikramjelani83752 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely Yess

  • @TEAMHYBRID007
    @TEAMHYBRID0072 жыл бұрын

    My ADD threw me off enough when this video first started I heard the noise from from among us when the Impostors are being introduced

  • @albertjackson9236
    @albertjackson92363 жыл бұрын

    This channel should stop mixing physics/reality with 100% pure BS like gods & religions.

  • @akirahikari6548
    @akirahikari65483 жыл бұрын

    Baha’u’llah, the founder of the Baha’i Faith said that the universe is teeming with life, so the answer of that religion is that the existence of extraterrestrial life forms does not undermine a belief in a Creator.. By the way, Baha’u’llah said this approximately 150 years ago.

  • @kpllc4209

    @kpllc4209

    3 жыл бұрын

    Giordano Bruno said it 500 years ago

  • @akirahikari6548

    @akirahikari6548

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kpllc4209 Bruno was certainly far ahead of his time, and IMHO he was correct in his position. I wasn’t suggesting that Baha’u’llah was the first person to say that aliens exist. My point was that Baha’u’llah is the first founder of a major world religion to make such a statement. As you know, in our lifetime, it is only recently that you could suggest that the universe is full of life and not be considered a crackpot. I think the fact that many people can now admit the possibility of intelligent non-terrestrial life forms is a glimmer of human progress. It’s also interesting that the US military/government has publicly released videos of the so-called tic-tac UFO. That’s a reversal of decades of denial. Maybe some interesting revelations will be forthcoming in the not-too-distant future...but I’m not holding my breath...lol

  • @kpllc4209

    @kpllc4209

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@akirahikari6548 I have always kept my speculations about their existence (and more importantly their visitations) to probable but I do not have enough facts. Yes the revelations being made have renewed my interest in the subject and a documentary called The Phenomena really peaked my interest. Even before that I watched a interesting video discussing how Rabbis have debated the subject for many hundreds of years maybe as far back as Bruno, I don't remember exactly. Some said no, others said yes. Some say yes but they have no free will, like angels. Which is what you would assume theologically they would be. Interestingly they would have no free will if they were a race that had merged with "God". Some even argued if a story in the bible was about a tribe that help Israel was in fact extra terrestrials. To be honest as much as I would like to believe they are universal brothers, what they know could possibly shatter anything our feeble brains have come up with.

  • @fndrr42
    @fndrr42 Жыл бұрын

    Robins view is in line with historical Christianity.

  • @porkberries4496
    @porkberries44962 жыл бұрын

    "Intelligent life" contradicts itself. If aliens exist, they'll be dissipatives like ourselves but dumber - for going into space.

  • @BenjaminGoose

    @BenjaminGoose

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a stupid statement to make.

  • @porkberries4496

    @porkberries4496

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BenjaminGoose Stick around Benjamin Goose and watch the technological cancer destroy life. How intelligent will you feel then? Humans are large scale rRNA and they behave just like the little ones inside their own cells. Using information to build tools and structures does not make you intelligent. If it did, your unconscious cells would be most intelligent of all.

  • @frrankdesilva6504
    @frrankdesilva6504 Жыл бұрын

    Following Rene Descartes meditation Category 1: Minds I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist. Category 2: Matter I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categories as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists. Category 3: Space My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist. Category 4: Time My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist. From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another. Now to the question of the origin of these categories Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another? Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time. From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localized change to space and time. So then could space and time be the origin of everything else? Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories. Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events? Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event. There can be no space , time or matter without events. In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next. From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories Category 1 : Minds Category 2 : Events Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical. Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind? If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind. Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind. This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger) So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds. These other minds may have also been created by The Mind.

  • @davea3329
    @davea33292 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Dr Robert for this channel, listen to it regularly, very high quality.

  • @Spiller333
    @Spiller3333 жыл бұрын

    I've lost over 75 IQ points just by listening to this inane conversation I so regret having clicked on this

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes any time these intellectuals get to discussing God they get stupid it seems

  • @Spiller333

    @Spiller333

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ramaraksha01 dude I laughed for like 10 minutes at the thought of multiple alien Jesus's being crucified or sacrificed on multiple alien planets

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Spiller333 oh God - still blindly following a primitive religion and its stories! Buddy, Christianity is just a religion made up by primitive people, that's all The Romans killed a lot of people that way & Christians took one name and spun a story How can you be this stupid?

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Spiller333 Buddy, Christianity is not the only religion in this world - there are thousands of others who don't have your story & Atheists as well Stop being this stupid!

  • @danoyze8213
    @danoyze82133 жыл бұрын

    To suggest that would imply we would become "Gods" the smarter we become to less intelligent civilizations on/off world.

  • @ycart_tech6726

    @ycart_tech6726

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Good luck with that...

  • @NedRigNerd
    @NedRigNerd2 жыл бұрын

    I love how they all think if we find aliens they going to be like, of yeah God we know him and we had a savior too. Like WTF? Like they seriously believe that if there is intelligent life out there they must have a Jesus because we did. None seem to be asking, what if we find intelligent life and they say what is this God you are talking about. Once intelligent life even looks at religion and read texts they are going to think we are completely ignorant.

  • @ishikawa1338

    @ishikawa1338

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe . U don’t know until if it happens

  • @dgh6673

    @dgh6673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ishikawa1338 facts

  • @gowansje
    @gowansje2 жыл бұрын

    You can not be alone and still be alone. It's define by how you see yourself in relativeness of life.

  • @kevinpunter7960
    @kevinpunter79602 жыл бұрын

    Earthing to ET: What's your take on god? ET to earthling: Oh fuck, not another moronic cult of fools!

  • @thzzzt

    @thzzzt

    2 жыл бұрын

    I really doubt ET would condemn us for being stupid, anymore than we condemn dogs for not understanding taxes. ET would understand we are a work in progress.

  • @philrobson7976
    @philrobson79763 жыл бұрын

    If ETs came to earth would they find us so primitive that they couldn’t believe that we have religion? Much like we couldn’t conceive that the great apes have celebrations for their higher spirit.

  • @clarkkent52

    @clarkkent52

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not aliens, fallen angels masquerading as benevolent space beings who will lie and say they are our creators who came to seed the earth long ago...it is all part of the lucerferian agenda, the mass deception spoken of in Revelation. Dont fall for it.!!

  • @joemariejames4757

    @joemariejames4757

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clarkkent52 now this is why some of our beliefs will be undermined by ETs

  • @donaldrispens1880
    @donaldrispens18802 жыл бұрын

    There is also the question about fallen angels, and the existing of evil in our world, and in how far ET `s have this same problem ... is they exist !

  • @mikehurd8342
    @mikehurd83422 жыл бұрын

    There are many religions, I think Buddhism is as or more of an appropriate religion pertaining to this subject.We all by now know there are many species of alien life by now. Until humans on this planet reach a higher level of consciousness, we can only guess how this ties in to our existence .I think it is a got thing to have a faith to keep us on track to a better understanding.

  • @antoniojoaquimlucaslucas7476
    @antoniojoaquimlucaslucas74762 жыл бұрын

    E=MC2,because that formula its impossible any life intilegent travel to our planet,the time and energy to reach ear its so big that makes that event impossible...

  • @deepB78
    @deepB782 жыл бұрын

    The point at around 3:00 where he tells about how the church's view was limited. I am not a particularly religious guy, but my religion talks about multi universes........I am talking about Hinduism (Paingala Upanishad)