Where Are They, All Those Aliens? | Episode 305 | Closer To Truth

Most scientists assume that the universe must be populated with innumerable alien intelligences and civilizations - after all, we humans can't be so special. OK, so where are they, these "innumerable alien intelligences and civilizations"? How come there's zero evidence? Featuring interviews with Jill Tarter, Douglas Vakoch, Frank Drake, Raymond Kurzweil, Francisco Ayala, Steven Dick, and David Brin.
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  • @CloserToTruthTV
    @CloserToTruthTV Жыл бұрын

    Closer To Truth is broadcast on PBS stations. You can also watch Closer To Truth online at CloserToTruth.com or on our KZread channel. This is Episode 5 of Season 3, first aired on PBS stations in 2009.

  • @KrystelSpicerMindArkLateralThi

    @KrystelSpicerMindArkLateralThi

    10 ай бұрын

    I call the guys out there MEOW. The elusive 'male equivalent of other woman'. 1 in 5 women in lifelong relationships are being abused. I've been writing about abiogenesis a long long time now, & for all the white goods & tech equipment men won our hands with, looking like they were doing the math for any two of us (for all the not looking like we wanted sex you had to ask us if we were into that sort of thing), I thought I'd get to exchanging you/us. Men are in our spatial surrounds time-wise. ..See them now? This is a D race & you know it. All I write is free, and quite strange. I see outlines of same things been omitted or unwritten. I don't tell you what things please & impress. Make least barbaric decisions which stand to have upsides & solve problems unintentionally & before their time. It keeps us incognito. I write fragments of sense & asolestend to think things funny when theyre prone to hurt people. They taken run with this work faster than anyone who typically checks their sources, &, not knowing what's hurting them they act out at other people. I call them 'bulldozers in the briarpatch'. CATs. I found them as what I call 'smashed up God complex kittens' (prov 25:28). They hadn't reared themselves that way, agreeing with themselves so much that they couldn't take no for an answer. And they like my work. You should know that my being female, I of nice guys with least barbaric things to have to tell you will be telling you the least liked least barbaric. Please enjoy the strange journey of Mind Ark. It has a sort of throat singing Julie Andrews Adventures of Baron Munchausen feel. If you like that sort of thing lol. *shrugs*

  • @cerebellum46
    @cerebellum463 жыл бұрын

    All this talk of no evidence. Our search for life in the universe is like wading into the ocean with a shot glass, scooping some water, and inspecting it with your eye and concluding the ocean must be lifeless. Our search has not even begun.

  • @mikenyy1166

    @mikenyy1166

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a terrific analogy.

  • @Yameen200

    @Yameen200

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikenyy1166 There is a similiar analogy in the islamic hadith comparing this life and the afterlife saying this life is like dipping your finger in the ocean and seeing the water left on the finger

  • @mikenyy1166

    @mikenyy1166

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Yameen200 I like that one too! This is why this channel is great, learning little things like this from good people.

  • @Yameen200

    @Yameen200

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikenyy1166 Though im very skeptical of the afterlife i find many of these traditions in NDEs and abrahamic faiths that romantizie the afterlife as something so incomparably better to this life as intriguing for sure.

  • @vladimir0700

    @vladimir0700

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as I’m concerned it’s a waste of time and resources

  • @KokoRicky
    @KokoRicky2 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Kuhn has such an ASMR voice. Friendly, calm, inquisitive. Really enjoy listening to him and the fascinating people he talks to.

  • @BrianPseivaD
    @BrianPseivaD2 жыл бұрын

    Can I just say you do a fantastic job covering some really difficult to talk about subjects, thanks it’s brilliant!!

  • @artisticcreations6801
    @artisticcreations6801 Жыл бұрын

    This show is the best on KZread. Neurologist curious about human consciousness leading him to search for other life and answers to our own existence. Brilliant ! Then he interviews the smartest people on earth about our future. Great program . Thank you.

  • @warrenreid6109
    @warrenreid61093 жыл бұрын

    The first step in learning is to admit that you don't know. The 2nd step is to declare that I want to know.

  • @pspicer777

    @pspicer777

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well said, but I would swap those two and have the desire to know as primary.

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pspicer777 Yes, and I would add a third: ''This is what I know about...''.

  • @silvercloud1641

    @silvercloud1641

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big bangs, black holes, milky ways? What's really going on here?

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Warren Reid And the 3rd step is the realisation that we'll never know.

  • @winson5159

    @winson5159

    2 жыл бұрын

    The first step is to look at the Drake equation to see if we have missed other factors in the equation.

  • @joeframo3347
    @joeframo33472 жыл бұрын

    One of the best programs on KZread right here

  • @DBlaze-ol1ku
    @DBlaze-ol1ku2 жыл бұрын

    Can't get enough of this stuff. Great channel!

  • @brontehauptmann4217

    @brontehauptmann4217

    2 жыл бұрын

    you've had too much already.. it's all a psy-op

  • @CHIKOfl
    @CHIKOfl10 ай бұрын

    This channel should have at least ten million followers.

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen9332 жыл бұрын

    Much of this search for aliens reminds me of a family leaving New York City for the Grand Canyon. They're not even out of the driveway when the kids start demanding: "Are we there yet?"

  • @Boogieplex

    @Boogieplex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great comment. I always thought its like scooping a cup full of water from the ocean,and saying”See…no fish!”.

  • @politicallycorrectredskin796

    @politicallycorrectredskin796

    2 жыл бұрын

    No but you can see the light from billions of light years away. Stop pretending that we're blind. The most logical way to power an interstellar civilization is with solar power and Dyson Swarms. We would be able to detect such megastructures because they would dim the stars they surround. Once we are able to build those it would be the first thing we did after arriving around another star, so this dimming would spread. Any galaxy with one or more ancient and advanced species in it should be entirely dimmed. Millions of stars and millions of galaxies have been examined for this and other projected megastructures and we have found nothing. That is not no evidence. That is evidence that strongly suggests that there are no species more advanced than us anywhere. If there were, we would see their Dyson Swarms. We should see entire galaxies with a severely reduced light output. If we don't destroy ourselves we are about to embark on a million years of looking with a magnifying glass for alien jellyfish is my take. Someone has to be first, and based on available evidence, we are first. Might as well get comfortable with it.

  • @cozycottagehome3104
    @cozycottagehome31043 жыл бұрын

    If a super advanced civilization hundreds of millions of years older than us wanted to keep Earth isolated as a zoo, blocking out all signs of their existence in the universe would be easy. Like draping a curtain over a birdcage..

  • @BG-uy9lj

    @BG-uy9lj

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always wonder why we are the only planet with living life with dead planets surrounding us. Seems to me we are being kept away from other planet with life for a reason. Just a thought to ponder on!

  • @CooManTunes

    @CooManTunes

    2 жыл бұрын

    That very well may be true, but I farted and it smelled like week-old used socks with toe jam and rotten eggs embedded in the fibers.

  • @TheRobGuard

    @TheRobGuard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its easy to answer. The aliens have equal difficulty finding signs of other life in this enormous universe, its too big and life should be biological in nature, only life we know can be possible. Even speed of light is way too slow to communicate in this vast universe (its bigger than we ever can imagine). Its the occam razor answer. The most simple answer is usually also the correct one.

  • @nlhernandez39

    @nlhernandez39

    2 жыл бұрын

    They would be like Q in star trek

  • @senthilmonkey

    @senthilmonkey

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BG-uy9lj that is not true. IT is your limited intelligence about the concept of life that makes you thing other planets are dead. What your eyes can see and what your mind can read is limited to what you are allowed to see and read. Even in the earth there could be parallel lives going on that we can't see.

  • @jererojasg
    @jererojasg2 жыл бұрын

    this channel is 50% pure knowledge and 50% ASMR

  • @8sun52
    @8sun522 жыл бұрын

    About 4 years ago I was watching something on cable about this subject. A woman scientist made a very revealing observation. She said, if anyone walked up to the edge of a lake, river or ocean and took a glass full of water and looked to see there were no fish in the water, should they conclude there are no fish in the lake, river or ocean? This is the stage that we are at as exploration and understanding of the universe goes. And actually, I think we might not even be at that stage of looking at a glass of water to use an analogy. Another thing, many humans seem to think that there could be no intelligent life like us out there. Who knows we in comparison to other living entities could be really, really primitive and unadvanced. We humans have to stop our understanding of this subject matter from our very, very narrow limited perspective. There could be living entities out there that were at the stage we are now during our Stone Age. And they managed not to destroy themselves and they are out there now.

  • @desert_rose7171

    @desert_rose7171

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is quite interesting. A man who was interviewed by Dr Steven Greer said the US had an alien in their custody back in the 40s or 50s who informed them they're about 50k years ahead. Several former members of the US military who had encounters with ET said that they were more interested in disarming their nuclear weapons. May be for as long as there's so much divisions, hate and time invested in developing weapons to destroy ourselves, they'll keep away 🤷‍♂️

  • @8sun52

    @8sun52

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@desert_rose7171 Hmm, I never heard that...(50K years). That would be in the Stone Age but nearing it's end. Yeah...maybe...can you blame them for wanting to keep their distance?... Thx for that info...

  • @jamesbracken6885

    @jamesbracken6885

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybee there all ready hear since history began?

  • @desert_rose7171

    @desert_rose7171

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesbracken6885 there or they're?

  • @simesaid

    @simesaid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesbracken6885 its entirely possible, the theory is known as "panspermia" (wherein the first life on Earth arrived via a comet or asteroid from deep space.)

  • @jamesandalotofgames9211
    @jamesandalotofgames92113 жыл бұрын

    There’s no damn evidence because we don’t have technology to look. All we have is dishes to listen for radio signals . That doesn’t tell you squat.

  • @tedregal7574

    @tedregal7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, why can't people understand that.

  • @scottbreseke716

    @scottbreseke716

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the aliens communicate by telepathy, what kind of radio signals are we expecting to receive?

  • @LuisFiguer

    @LuisFiguer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, I am puzzled by the SETI guys, they seem so close minded sometimes. I mean, it is not so hard to understand, they keep looking for technology signals that may as well just be used during the infancy of a technological civilization, a blink of an eye on the timescale of the universe. It is like searching for messenger pigeons to conclude there is other towns out there, sure, they were a means of communication, but we gave up on them as more efficient ways of communication were developed. We are not searching for the right signals with the right tools, for me that's a better answer. They need to start thinking outside their collective boxes.

  • @scottbreseke716

    @scottbreseke716

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LuisFiguer If SETI exists then the public thinks that we have not found the aliens yet. That is the presumption. Our black ops groups continue to see fund that SETI gets funding to further the idea that we have not found aliens yet.

  • @LuisFiguer

    @LuisFiguer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottbreseke716 Makes sense, never thought out about that one, I was just under the impression that they are searching but not very hard. :)

  • @stinkertoy4310
    @stinkertoy43103 жыл бұрын

    Jill Tartar nailed it in the first three minutes. It’s only a paradox because we assume they are not already here.

  • @stinkertoy4310

    @stinkertoy4310

    3 жыл бұрын

    And, if they ARE here already, what does that tell us about who they are, and why they are here?

  • @thriceconcussed1

    @thriceconcussed1

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, we "presume" they are not here, b/c there are no good reasons to believe they are. All anyone offers as evidence or epistemic justification is baseless speculation.

  • @davemclean3899

    @davemclean3899

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on

  • @heartofthunder1440

    @heartofthunder1440

    2 жыл бұрын

    And suppose if the aliens are us all along, suppose we were the ones that came here. Never know.

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jill Tartar is no dummy. I'll bet anything you like she would never say aliens are here. Please don't lie about her, admit she didn't say that.

  • @SmConnally1984
    @SmConnally19842 жыл бұрын

    The question of "Are we alone?" is both one of the most profound questions we can ask and also one of the most futile. I kinda picture myself stranded on a desert island, like Tom Hanks on Castaway. For all intents and purposes, I am alone there. That's not to say that life isn't teeming elsewhere, say in New York City. But as far as that life having any bearing on me, it's extremely inconsequential. So to try and definitively answer the question, I don't believe it's as simple as "yes or no." It may very well me "yes AND no." Here on this planet, as castaways, as it were, maybe we would try to cobble together what we can and leave the island, but in our reality, there will be no wayfaring shipping barge coming to our rescue. So we're pinned to the world. For the foreseeable future. We hang out on our island, concerned with our immediate surroundings. Concerned with how we will survive, eat, find shelter, entertain ourselves in the interim, etc. We are concerned with that...and the well-springs of life elsewhere have no bearing on us, they have their own agendas. What would it take for a Wall Street investment banker to somehow end up on our island? Sure it's possible why would that happen? How? I am rambling but to wrap this up, I believe there is inevitable life, both intelligent and curious...and other forms, bacterial and microscopic...and even life that would be imperceptible to us,. possibly even life in dimensions inaccessible to our 5 senses...and while on a technical level we aren't alone, it's pretty lonesome on our remote island in the cosmic ocean, so...no comfort will be found in their company. Not for now. Maybe not for a staggering amount of time. So we should take care of our island and treat it like it's our only home, because it is.

  • @fredk9999

    @fredk9999

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s a great analogy being stranded on an island. Where is everyone? Why is no one here?

  • @paddydiddles4415
    @paddydiddles44152 жыл бұрын

    Drake spells it out clearly - when you stack up all the improbability’s you realise that the universe is teaming with life, including civilisational and technological but is just too far separated in time and space, to expect a meet-up

  • @simesaid

    @simesaid

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, he doesn't. Frank Drake has spent his entire professional career attempting to show the _exact_ opposite!

  • @paddydiddles4415

    @paddydiddles4415

    Жыл бұрын

    @@simesaid the exact opposite of what? So you think he doesn’t think there’s plenty of life out there? His explanation for no evidence, is obviously due to the separation of time and space - which is what I said

  • @nikitakucherov5028
    @nikitakucherov50282 жыл бұрын

    Its like looking in the corner of your bedroom and asking where are all the giraffes 🦒

  • @grahamsouthern5583

    @grahamsouthern5583

    2 жыл бұрын

    More like being a giraffe in Africa and wandering the plains asking where are all the giraffes.

  • @ultrainstinctgoku2509

    @ultrainstinctgoku2509

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's actually more like looking into outer space in multiple directions, with the most advance modern telescopes that can see billions of light years away, with some of the most intelligent minds calculating the inhabitability of planets and moons in sight and asking where are all these aliens and why aren't they there or anywhere? That's the truth. 😇

  • @tbag419

    @tbag419

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ultrainstinctgoku2509 and now there to paradox us 👽 we can only see old light. radio signals trake a long time to cover space. Life is made from the most abundant stuff in the universe and happens relativly quickly in the right soup 🌊

  • @corkamstra3909

    @corkamstra3909

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look under your bed instead.

  • @grahamsouthern5583

    @grahamsouthern5583

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tbag419 That's a guess. For 'the right soup' to produce something that can sustain itself from its environment and reproduce may be almost impossible - or it may be almost impossible that it doesn't happen. We just don't know - and what's more, we should all admit that we don't know.

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars20033 жыл бұрын

    David Brin is brilliant! Talk to him for hours please!

  • @b.g.5869

    @b.g.5869

    2 жыл бұрын

    How many hours?

  • @aresmars2003

    @aresmars2003

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@b.g.5869 Ha! I think 4 parts with 3 hours each would be good.

  • @billwhite5285
    @billwhite5285 Жыл бұрын

    Ray was tremendous here. I find Kuhn's face really lights up when he aligns with one of his guests.

  • @fparent
    @fparent2 жыл бұрын

    After reading the first two books of the Three Body Problem from Cixin Liu, I'm starting to wonder if a smart civilization isn't better off staying quiet and not draw attention of a more powerful civilization at the risk of being taken over like, you know, Cortez and Aztecs and Incas, Europeans and Indians. Maybe that's why the universe is so quiet.

  • @addamriley5452

    @addamriley5452

    Жыл бұрын

    So you think we should stay quiet? What if we’ve already been found? Then what?

  • @SmartWentCrazy.

    @SmartWentCrazy.

    6 ай бұрын

    This is the most noticeable oversight in this video for sure. The concepts in that series are truly mind blowing.

  • @digitalfootballer9032

    @digitalfootballer9032

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@addamriley5452I would argue that if we have already been found it's one of two scenarios. One being the "zoo hypothesis", where we are left alone to be observed by their scientists. Or two, the much less likely scenario, that the Borg cube is on its way to assimilate us but won't get here for hundreds of thousands of years 😂

  • @addamriley5452

    @addamriley5452

    4 ай бұрын

    @@digitalfootballer9032 or 3. The technology to travel the stars and the truth of what life is, would only act as a detriment to us in our current state, so it is left hidden until a day where integration is possible without destruction being the inevitable outcome.

  • @odinswar596
    @odinswar5962 жыл бұрын

    How can we say we're alone when the furthest galaxies are billions of light years away. There is no way to find a definitive answer unless we find life in our own solar system. The distances are to vast or infinite to assume we are alone just because we can't see proof of them.

  • @sparrovski

    @sparrovski

    2 жыл бұрын

    too vast, but I agree.

  • @isaacjacobs3785

    @isaacjacobs3785

    2 жыл бұрын

    Easy, as it stands WE ARE ALONE. that's because we have no way of finding anything, its too far away. So we will always be alone.

  • @dizydeus

    @dizydeus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@romeobond8473 saying god exists is on one end of a spectrum, saying he doesn't is on the other. If the average people could think beyond black and white, they would just not bother with answering a question they just can't, or would simply leave it on a consensus that god MAY exist. Having said that, distances between other stars are indeed very very vast and we simply can't say for sure if we are alone or not. And for that reason, it practically doesn't matter (which is kinda sad).

  • @travellingmac2177

    @travellingmac2177

    Жыл бұрын

    This knife you used cuts both ways. We could say ‘how can we say there are others.’

  • @Michael-tq6xm
    @Michael-tq6xm3 жыл бұрын

    Robert I find these videos you produce are more educational than 99% of what gets, uploaded and I love watching as they are extremely perplexing. Stay safe...

  • @darkorse9752

    @darkorse9752

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny you should say that because I'm head first into the ufology community and I can tell you that this guy knows absolutely nothing and is extremely amateur in his research.

  • @Michael-tq6xm

    @Michael-tq6xm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkorse9752 it's the questions he asks that raise the need to perplex and the people he talks to, he is only what I might term a lay man but I find the conversation educational some people out there don't even know what an axion or atom is le alone talks on the emergence of consciousness.

  • @besimatalay7839

    @besimatalay7839

    3 жыл бұрын

    On the one hand, we have Mr Kuhn who interviews very interesting, experienced and knowledgeable professionals in related fields, hence educates the masses, and on the other hand we have somebody mocking him and talking about 'uflology community' nonsense. If aliens had been all around us, visiting us all the time, produce irrefutable evidence. You have the internet, you have the equipment. Produce at least one single irrefutable evidence.

  • @Michael-tq6xm

    @Michael-tq6xm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkorse9752 ufoldgy and physics / meta physics are different things completely.

  • @b.g.5869

    @b.g.5869

    2 жыл бұрын

    Robert doesn't upload these. Most of these are well over ten years old. These are clips from a US public television series called "Closer To Truth" that had been on and off the air since the year 2000. The only videos that are relatively new and made for KZread are the roughly hour long one on one Zoom videos called "Closer To Truth: Chats". These old clips are uploaded by PBS interns.

  • @robk7129
    @robk71292 жыл бұрын

    7:40 « you dialup Scoty » thanks for your good sense of humour

  • @angelkaty630
    @angelkaty6302 жыл бұрын

    This is the most intelligent open minded exciting and thoughtful discussion and investigation into the possibility of life in the universe I have ever cone across. All of these thinkers, ponderers, have given this planet some real food for thought.

  • @cliverobert9891

    @cliverobert9891

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'vè mated with an intelligent ET produçed a hýbrid that's the function of the programme which the Eiohim starred some 2 Million years ago

  • @Coffee-nx9uy
    @Coffee-nx9uy3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if they are already millions of years ahead in terms civilization... i think they could not even be bothered with our own existence...

  • @gaetanovindigni8824

    @gaetanovindigni8824

    3 жыл бұрын

    Advanced civilizations may very well have abandoned knowing the Universe and instead chose to become the Universe......in some fashion such as seeding planets with their DNA.

  • @randomness8819

    @randomness8819

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes we'd be less than ants to them.

  • @fletch88zz

    @fletch88zz

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is it yeah. The goal of life is to survive. Our DNA figured out a way to reproduce and continue. If your civilization is a million years more advanced than ours and your goal is survival, you've probably done something we can't comprehend. Maybe you figured out the multiverse and moved on, maybe you hunkered down around black holes that will last until heat death and put on your vr headset. Whatever it is when they look at us and ask "does that help me survive?".... yeah nah

  • @brandonleesanders

    @brandonleesanders

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think all civilizations are evolving at roughly the same rate give or take a few hundred thousand years. The universe as a whole is biological. Think of the universe like a pond... algae and plankton would appear about the same time uniformly throughout the entire pond. If civilizations are spaced out as common as 10,000 light years between each other, our nearest neighbor would currently see earth as it was 10,000 years ago. They wouldn’t even know we exist. Also... We often think of alien life being more advanced but stop to think for a sec... We could very well be the more advanced civilization among our neighbors by a few thousand years simply because we evolved first. If that’s the case our nearest neighbor hasn’t even begun to emit radio signals let along be able to detect ours. Give us more credit. We deserve it.

  • @bozo5632

    @bozo5632

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonleesanders The ponds formed billions of years apart though.

  • @Tastylick
    @Tastylick3 жыл бұрын

    One of the most interesting discussions on the topic. Really terrific.

  • @billwassner1433
    @billwassner1433 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Robert. Another stellar job, as usual.

  • @helveticahotline
    @helveticahotline2 жыл бұрын

    Great episode! Very well done. Thank you.

  • @emzywillrich7243
    @emzywillrich72433 жыл бұрын

    Ray Kurzweil is quite a character. I spent over a year reading his book, The Singularity is Near, and went to his lecture when came to a local university in my area. He got so confused in his lecture that he simply walked off the stage and didn't return, denying me the autograph I had sought as a reward for reading the tome he had written. Therefore, his proclaiming that we are are alone in the universe doesn't warrant much merit in my book and certainly doesn't make any sense.

  • @mikecroly4579

    @mikecroly4579

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Emzy! Very well thought out!

  • @ecrusch

    @ecrusch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for reading his book and saving us all from attempting to get through it.

  • @ili626

    @ili626

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve corresponded with him and found him helpful and kind. Maybe you saw him on an unusually bad day. Like Lawrence, I thought his explanation made a lot of sense.

  • @colors6692

    @colors6692

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Therefore, his proclaiming that we are are alone in the universe doesn't warrant much merit in my book "...because he "got so confused in his lecture that he simply walked off the stage and didn't return, denying me the autograph I had sought as a reward for reading the tome he had written"!!! So your feelings were hurt (irrationally), therefore you now dislike the person AND all his opinions, sounds like a woman alright😂🤡

  • @bozo5632

    @bozo5632

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@colors6692 WTF?

  • @davemmar
    @davemmar2 жыл бұрын

    Searching for extraterrestrials with the limited tools we have and expecting results is human arrogance. If we want it bad enough, and I think we do, we will get there some day.

  • @if6was929

    @if6was929

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davehoward22 They may not care to find us as it would mean revealing themselves to us, something they may not want at all!

  • @darrellrichards2265

    @darrellrichards2265

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is here. Is not the cosmos 90 % nothing. So there supernatural.

  • @randykuhns4515

    @randykuhns4515

    2 жыл бұрын

    and you might not either what with the high possibility they simply do not exist.

  • @faezkhoreshee5959

    @faezkhoreshee5959

    Жыл бұрын

    No, They will get here,, We will not leaving the solar system

  • @theeyesareopen-_-3040
    @theeyesareopen-_-30402 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Switching up on the comedy 😂

  • @PatrickBaele
    @PatrickBaele2 жыл бұрын

    Good video, nice to rise these questions and searching for answers 👍

  • @ericmasson7462
    @ericmasson74623 жыл бұрын

    We've searched the equivalent of a glass of water compared to all earth's oceans. Do the math... In my view, the old doctrine is still blinding us

  • @manit77

    @manit77

    3 жыл бұрын

    There hasn't been substantial proof of intelligent life outside our planet, so we have to use assumptions based on data that we have. Based on human technological trends the universe should be teeming with intelligent life. The two conclusions outlined in this video are the most logical answers. We are in a simulation or in an alien zoo.

  • @kenperlman2204

    @kenperlman2204

    2 жыл бұрын

    Far less comparatively than one glass for all the oceans. Not even a thimble.

  • @maleitch

    @maleitch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ridiculous comparison. Your oversimplified analogy assumes that we can only detect alien life visually. They repeatedly mention radio waves.

  • @williammays6656
    @williammays66563 жыл бұрын

    Problem is, all these arguments are based on human intellect and reasoning and our current understanding of physics. I think it's a little presumptuous to think that extra terrestrial life will act or think like us.

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't matter what or how alien life thinks or behaves, physical law is universal. We will never encounter it which is why it's of no importance.

  • @grahamsouthern5583

    @grahamsouthern5583

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoden Why won't we encounter it? From a distance, at least.

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@grahamsouthern5583 Lay people generally don't realise how vast space is, if aliens exist they are too far away. We would have to travel for many lifetimes to reach them, possibly forever if space is infinite! That's why I'm sure we'll never encounter alien life.

  • @grahamsouthern5583

    @grahamsouthern5583

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoden That is certainly true. After travelling faster than any other man-made objects for nearly 40 years, the Voyager spacecraft are just now nudging their way out of our solar system. However, messages travelling at the speed of light are detectable at long distances. Receiving such a message would be an 'encounter'. You might think that such a message would be of 'no importance', but that would depend on what its content was. You are being very insular, if I might say so.

  • @xisudra384

    @xisudra384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoden You are here perfectly exhibiting an example of a logical fallacy. I'll make it as simple as possible for you- how do you like this one: "It doesn't matter what or how life on Earth thinks or behaves...". Sounds REALLY stupid, doesn't it? But wait, there's more: * Physical law is universal- perhaps, and we are still in our infancy in understanding physical laws. * "We will never encounter it which is why it's of no importance."- well thank you, Herr Nostradamus! As you are so good at foretelling the future, what will the US inflation rate be in three months? And remember, exact figures, please.

  • @gk-qf9hv
    @gk-qf9hv2 жыл бұрын

    The problem is the way we define intelligence, and what we expect it to be like. Human beings are not intelligent, we are egoist.

  • @planexshifter
    @planexshifter11 ай бұрын

    I find it absurd to assume that intelligent alien life would act like we do.

  • @RAVPower-
    @RAVPower-2 жыл бұрын

    “If we are alone in the universe, then we live in a simulation, there must be a intelligent creator behind it”…. This got me.

  • @antidoteforlife9460

    @antidoteforlife9460

    2 жыл бұрын

    So God is not an alien, but this is the direction of ancient alien theories and I find that to be a deception and when asking for concrete proof you get hour long talks in circles with zero evidence.

  • @Keepitoriginalministry

    @Keepitoriginalministry

    2 жыл бұрын

    God is real! Yes, Jesus Christ is Lord

  • @DulceN

    @DulceN

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Keepitoriginalministry And you are brainwashed!

  • @cawbaird5711

    @cawbaird5711

    2 жыл бұрын

    People are so arrogant to think they have it all figured out this world is full of mysteries that evolution just cannot explain but the Bible does

  • @Keepitoriginalministry

    @Keepitoriginalministry

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cawbaird5711 Exactly those atheist that don’t believe in God, They never think twice about WHO thought about their HUNGER/ Stomach 🥘 🌲 WITH FRUITS 🍉 AND VEGGIES 🌽 AND NUTRITION, vitamins and protein ECT. Evolution or God? GOD!!

  • @surfinsilver
    @surfinsilver2 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I wanted to see when I clicked on this. It made me more curious, but also didn’t reassure me of a single thing 🙃🙏 for some things there is an answer, but that answer may be so far away from us (or what we know) with no intention of ever journeying to present itself.

  • @huhuruz77
    @huhuruz772 жыл бұрын

    I`m speechless. Amazing video !

  • @TunioMir
    @TunioMir2 жыл бұрын

    I wish someone discussed the 'dark forest theory' - it's the most compelling explanation for no contact I've heard.

  • @michaelking9818

    @michaelking9818

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please we are trying to keep it a secret

  • @wkgurr
    @wkgurr3 жыл бұрын

    8:50 interstellar space flight. The Fermi paradox does not rest on the assumption of space travel. It is the total lack of any kind of "intelligent" looking signal that is the core of this paradox. We're not looking for alien space travel but for any kind of hint - even the weirdest one - that there might exist intelligent life or life at all anywhere else in our solar system, our galaxy or the universe. It is not normally considered good science to state that something exists or must exist but we just haven't found it yet. All you can rightfully say is that with our current observational methods and at this time there is not even a shred of evidence that would point to the existence of life anywhere else but earth let alone intelligent life. That does not mean we should stop looking but we should stop exclaiming that IT MUST be there.

  • @whydidyouresign
    @whydidyouresign2 жыл бұрын

    I was fascinated by the transitional sequence at about 19:15 where RLK walks down to the overlook and gazes out at the ocean which appears flat and lifeless. An analog to the cosmos, perhaps? Each is vast, just on tremendously different scales. Neither exhibits intelligent life directly, although one is teeming with it. The other??....

  • @nik1128
    @nik1128 Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel

  • @RiverWhisperPrd
    @RiverWhisperPrd2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent discussion....

  • @jamesbentonticer4706
    @jamesbentonticer47063 жыл бұрын

    I wish these episodes were an hour long.

  • @cyclops9125

    @cyclops9125

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just watch it twice

  • @jamesbentonticer4706

    @jamesbentonticer4706

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cyclops9125 your right! I should have thought of that :)

  • @JerseyLynne

    @JerseyLynne

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cyclops9125 my first thought as well

  • @SaabAholic

    @SaabAholic

    3 жыл бұрын

    They would be if the Discovery Channel showed them. They take a commercial break then rehash the previous 12 minutes for 3 minutes.

  • @williamesselman3102

    @williamesselman3102

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is so freaking obvious that you guys troll around stroking one another's egos

  • @geoden
    @geoden2 жыл бұрын

    I loved that Frank Drake told the truth and backed up a lot of what I've been saying about aliens not coming here. The great line about alien interstellar travel had me laughing! ''Only the dumb ones would try, and they don't know how to do it'', nice one Frank!

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm' sounds like Sinker Toy got ''sunk''.

  • @tomaaron6187

    @tomaaron6187

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with him. I don’t need to travel to Japan to look at a particular grain of sand. Why exactly is an advanced intelligence physically going anywhere? Matter and energy is the same everywhere. It’s no different in a galaxy a hundred million light years away than on Earth. The same quantum ‘stuff’.

  • @eltatoyo9211
    @eltatoyo92112 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of the story of the flea that lived on the elephant and concluded that nothing exists except itself. We're about there, we don't know enough to make definitive conclusions either way.

  • @kinematics4999
    @kinematics49992 жыл бұрын

    Great Program.. Thank you.....Any interviews with Jacques Vallée ?

  • @jenw6545
    @jenw65452 жыл бұрын

    Just like the last tribes in the Amazon that are protected from interference. We occasionally fly over their village (are we "aliens" to them?) but essentially they are left alone.

  • @TwiztedDezign

    @TwiztedDezign

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's way more serious than that. Keep reading because some random KZread comment will not convince you.

  • @thebluecollarbadass9945

    @thebluecollarbadass9945

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very precise observation you are definitely of a high IQ 👏👍✊🏽

  • @siddharthdesai6801

    @siddharthdesai6801

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's true

  • @omegabiker

    @omegabiker

    2 жыл бұрын

    and we using noisy machine and they use silent cloaking vessels and they're probably walking among us, there's probably one standing next to you right now working on his school project, ever get that feeling you're being watched? Don't look right don't look right....👽

  • @TheShootist

    @TheShootist

    2 жыл бұрын

    we have no right to isolate them, btw. and at the same time we have no right to interfere. it is complicated.

  • @imstevemcqueen
    @imstevemcqueen3 жыл бұрын

    We have no idea how much 'energy ' it would cost an alien species to travel light years through space.

  • @isaacjacobs3785

    @isaacjacobs3785

    2 жыл бұрын

    No aliens.

  • @isaacjacobs3785

    @isaacjacobs3785

    2 жыл бұрын

    @paul zozak What a nob comment.

  • @glee835
    @glee8352 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering why the detection of UFO’s by the navy did not come up in this show? Could these be drones from a distant civilization?

  • @malibu3602
    @malibu36022 жыл бұрын

    Does anybody know what that background music is playing at the 20:00 minute mark? I need to know ASAP!

  • @nelsonlaw23
    @nelsonlaw233 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work. Are we closer to the truth? Don't think so.

  • @chirilas5217
    @chirilas52173 жыл бұрын

    As usual, outstanding and very interesting lessons about the Universe and these predators, called HUMANS. 👏👏👍👍

  • @iniquity123

    @iniquity123

    3 жыл бұрын

    Speak for yourself 🤷‍♂️.

  • @MichaelGreenLagos

    @MichaelGreenLagos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iniquity123 so you are a vegetarian

  • @mangotree8405

    @mangotree8405

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MichaelGreenLagos I'm vegetarian but I am still belong to the worst species on universe

  • @w8biatvrepeater638
    @w8biatvrepeater6389 ай бұрын

    Drake hit the mail on the head, but he only scratched the surface in explaining the incomprehensible distances that separate us even within our tiny slice of the Milky Way galaxy.

  • @chester-chickfunt900
    @chester-chickfunt900 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with the "simulation within a cloak" hypothesis. Our instruments can detect many sources of signaling as far back as the near beginning of spacetime as we know it. And not one alien signal. Illogical. But when the lab rat becomes aware that he is trapped in an experiment, does the experiment continue to serve its function? When does the cloak get lifted or the plug pulled?

  • @cuntreeful
    @cuntreeful2 жыл бұрын

    All the experiences humans have had and still people are in denial

  • @merlinidlehands3302

    @merlinidlehands3302

    2 жыл бұрын

    kinda like trumpers lol

  • @jacknguyen5677

    @jacknguyen5677

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nixon shown actor Jacky Gleason UFO spacecraft back in the 70’s. Jacky Gleason went on tv and bragged about it. And he built his house in the shape of the UFO. Google it.

  • @victorv4975

    @victorv4975

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@merlinidlehands3302 i bet you like it when guys sniff your hair like Joe Biden

  • @FMDD168

    @FMDD168

    2 жыл бұрын

    The current Government admission that UFOs (or UAPs in the current vernacular) makes Jill Tartar looks like the typical pompous, pontificating scientist. Aliens ARE here and ARE apparently interested in us.

  • @merlinidlehands3302

    @merlinidlehands3302

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FMDD168 the gov will NEVER tell you the truth not about ufos not about the pandemic

  • @ItsEverythingElse
    @ItsEverythingElse3 жыл бұрын

    The problem is time and extinction. The few hundred years that advanced civilizations are around are nothing in cosmic time scales and just don't overlap with other civilizations.

  • @brandonleesanders

    @brandonleesanders

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think all civilizations are evolving at roughly the same rate give or take a few hundred thousand years. The universe as a whole is biological. Think of the universe like a pond... algae and plankton would appear about the same time uniformly throughout the entire pond. If civilizations are spaced out as common as 10,000 light years between each other, our nearest neighbor would currently see earth as it was 10,000 years ago. They wouldn’t even know we exist. Also... We often think of alien life being more advanced but stop to think for a sec... We could very well be the more advanced civilization among our neighbors by a few thousand years simply because we evolved first. If that’s the case our nearest neighbor hasn’t even begun to emit radio signals let along be able to detect ours.

  • @7Earthsky

    @7Earthsky

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonleesanders Except that's not true because most stars are red dwarfs and they are many billions of years older than the star type that we orbit...Meaning that we would be the very new kids on the block in terms of life in the universe...If anything, life out there is so advanced that it simply isn't even perceptible to us...The same way bugs can't perceive poetry.

  • @MasterKoala777

    @MasterKoala777

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting for this point to be addressed in the video. It's not only the immeasurable scale of space, but that of time, that is a problem for any two or more civilizations to intersect. Scenario A) What if an intelligent civilization from a million lightyears away sent out a signal just 100,000 years ago? The signal hasn't reached us yet. Scenario B) What if an intelligent civilization from a million lightyears away sent out a signal 2 million years ago? We humans missed it by a million years. And so on.

  • @jezzaus2124
    @jezzaus2124 Жыл бұрын

    Distance is the issue, I feel most people can't seem to grasp how far away things are.

  • @meklitnew
    @meklitnew Жыл бұрын

    ❤ Curiosity is the cure ❤ Thanks for sharing these amazing explorations.

  • @loganbranjord7855
    @loganbranjord78553 жыл бұрын

    Our definition of life is too anthropomorphic

  • @williamesselman3102

    @williamesselman3102

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, we should allow someone else to define it.

  • @loganbranjord7855

    @loganbranjord7855

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamesselman3102 do you understand what I’m saying? A human can analyze life from many lenses. Obviously we aren’t living anywhere but inside the circuits of a human form. We can however think from concepts of self that don’t limit us to this form.

  • @williamesselman3102

    @williamesselman3102

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@loganbranjord7855 give me just a second, I'm imagining I'm a cow so I can formulate a better response for what exactly we are.

  • @williamesselman3102

    @williamesselman3102

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's probably going to be udder nonsense. 😃

  • @loganbranjord7855

    @loganbranjord7855

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@williamesselman3102 ok, I won’t bother you with it. Have a nice day either way :-)

  • @kensmith8152
    @kensmith81522 жыл бұрын

    My problem with first contact is the vast distances in space and the limits of biology

  • @Armathor333
    @Armathor3332 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail made me think it was Jeff Goldblum doing this

  • @cobbyclan3466
    @cobbyclan34662 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks. As somebody with an astronomy background, I've always considered the Drake equation to be meaningless. I support the tech (Ray Kurzweil) and evolutionary biology viewpoints.

  • @cynic256

    @cynic256

    2 жыл бұрын

    rays theory is fundamentally flawed, even by his own logic. he says intelligence is preposterously rare. okay. however, there's 100 billion planets in our galaxy, and 200 billion galaxies in the visible universe. estimates suggest we have only discovered a fraction of what's actually out there. even if it is preposterously rare, statistics are still on the side of it occurring somewhere else. 0.001% of 18 quadrillion is still a very large number.

  • @dizydeus

    @dizydeus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cynic256 while I don't inherently disagree, his point is about intelligent life. And even then, let's say there is 1 other intelligent life form in this galaxy, the vast distances between stars and constellations make it practically pointless to know about them since we cannot reach them or be reached. Unless, the other argument applies about such civilization being able to travel, in which case we would already know about them. I'd love the evidence of such civilization tho, don't get me wrong.

  • @otisdriftwood6723
    @otisdriftwood67233 жыл бұрын

    All of these so-called experts and we still don't know any more than we did from the beginning. And we never will know all we'll ever have is somebody's theories

  • @abbyw8113
    @abbyw81133 жыл бұрын

    What about the Tic Tac video by Navy commander David Fravor? How about the Pentagon statement in the NY Times last July that they have multiple craft "not of this world"?

  • @termikesmike

    @termikesmike

    3 жыл бұрын

    and also Avi Loeb and also former head of Israel's space security program for thirty years and retired Gen Haim Eshed recent statements !

  • @user-kn9ib9zm4q

    @user-kn9ib9zm4q

    2 жыл бұрын

    aliens are a propaganda to hide some secrets and also make you to pay more taxes for their secrets

  • @asherhouseman6838

    @asherhouseman6838

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Adam-7_7_7 , The oldest one is 2004 and that's not that long ago. if they are not from the US, Russia, China, Japan, or India, that leaves only one choice.

  • @danielosetromera2090

    @danielosetromera2090

    2 жыл бұрын

    They didn't say "not of this world" at all.

  • @danielosetromera2090

    @danielosetromera2090

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Adam-7_7_7 They didn't say that either. The most they said was that they don't know what those objects were. www.nytimes.com/2021/06/03/us/politics/ufos-sighting-alien-spacecraft-pentagon.html www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.amp.html From the second link: "Mr. Davis, who now works for Aerospace Corporation, a defense contractor, said he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this earth.” Eric W. Davis is an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program. His statement is not an official Pentagon statement in any way.

  • @AlicanErenKuzu
    @AlicanErenKuzu7 ай бұрын

    Yesterday night I was looking out of my window. There were so many houses and I started yelling "IS THERE ANYBODY?!?!" but nobody yelled back :( Where is anybody?

  • @philipmcdonagh1094
    @philipmcdonagh10942 жыл бұрын

    Trying to have a radio or a laser conversation with someone only a light year away would be impractical.

  • @thebadtemperedbrit
    @thebadtemperedbrit2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to the comments section I know not to even bother watching this, we've seen & heard it all before!

  • @surfside75

    @surfside75

    2 жыл бұрын

    This was actually very good with interesting guests but, whatever bro😁

  • @zeropointconsciousness
    @zeropointconsciousness3 жыл бұрын

    All I know is during first lockdown in April or May last year I was looking up at the night sky at 3am and I could see these lights like tiny stars in groups of 3 shooting one way and then another. They were way way way up in the atmosphere if they were in the atmosphere. I asked an astronomer I follow online if he'd ever seen a u.f.o and he said "yes once and they were like tiny stars in groups of three." True story.

  • @sideswiped6874

    @sideswiped6874

    3 жыл бұрын

    many many have seen them, my wife and I saw 5 fly over once, way back, some 20 years ago. late at night.

  • @Dreway

    @Dreway

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where at

  • @zeropointconsciousness

    @zeropointconsciousness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Dreway West coast of Scotland

  • @petergoodenough6150

    @petergoodenough6150

    2 жыл бұрын

    We are an experiment, they are trying to each us that we harm our bodies like we harm the earth. Until we wake! they will never show themselves. Or we are so small just like viruses and bacteria, we will never even see them or understand. When they say their's something like a barrier at the edge of the universe, like a barrier that we can never go through. We cannot even see nothing properly, our eyesight is terrible. So how the hell can anyone say for sure either way. Till we wake up from our stupor then, only then we can start to understand! We can't even get along with each other in the same countries, let alone on the other side of the world. We are destructive and aggressive race. They will not let us advance ever! We are worst and more backwards now than we ever was.

  • @david-pb4bi
    @david-pb4bi2 жыл бұрын

    Ray’s assumptions might not be possible ( taking over the whole galaxy), with that amount of planets think the odds are in favour of other life forms. Francisco with his dyed hair, that’s very intelligent.

  • @billyjohn9192

    @billyjohn9192

    2 жыл бұрын

    While it's true that there are an unimaginable amount of planets out there, the chances of abiogenesis are even more unimaginable. Just watch some videos of how hard it is for a protein to form. Then remember on Earth in 4.5 billion years we had one incidence of abiogenesis. Not to mention it is the best place we have found for life to occur.

  • @gingerc5292
    @gingerc52922 жыл бұрын

    Talk about other civilizations needing to use SO much energy to get here leaves out the possibility that others have learned to use worm holes for transport. It also only subscribes to the idea that others use the same type of energy and physics that we are familiar with.

  • @inquiringreality1354
    @inquiringreality13543 жыл бұрын

    All of these videos are almost exactly 26:47 min long haha. Does Robert like this number for some reason?

  • @songemaestronsunza4407

    @songemaestronsunza4407

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol! Didnt notice

  • @AlexMartinez-dc4pe

    @AlexMartinez-dc4pe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Matthew 26:47?

  • @sneakyswiftfaze1548

    @sneakyswiftfaze1548

    2 жыл бұрын

    its a 30 min tv show. the 4 mins that are missing are comercials.

  • @caricue
    @caricue3 жыл бұрын

    It's strange that they are still following the Copernican Principle, even though it was really about us not being the center of the universe. The Kepler Planet Finder showed that we are not in an average or normal solar system like we assumed. Our sun is abnormal precisely because it is so calm and stable, this is a feature, not a fault. Our system lacks super earths which are "normal" along with hot Jupiters. If you add in that we are basically a highly unusual dual planet with our enormous moon, liquid water on the surface and a strong magnetic field, and we are starting to seem awfully special, maybe unique.

  • @randomness8819

    @randomness8819

    3 жыл бұрын

    TESS discovered a super earth in 2019. It's ok for us to not be special. We can accept that we are part of the fabric of the creation all around. That's more valuable to understand than to have a narcissistic hope that we are special.

  • @caricue

    @caricue

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randomness8819 It's no more useful to have the narcissistic hope that we are normal and average when this requires us to ignore the current state of scientific evidence. It's too early to make any final conclusions, but the evidence that we have right now points to all solar systems being unique and unusual, so we are normal in this sense. In fact, if you look closely at the planets that have been identified as terrestrial and in the habitable zone, almost all of them are orbiting red dwarfs and are probably tidally locked. This is most likely the biggest wishful thinking of all. I accept the data and evidence, not any sort of hopes or dreams, and I'm open to any new discoveries or perspectives.

  • @randomness8819

    @randomness8819

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@caricue I have no idea what you are talking about nor what ascertion of normalcy you're referring to. You may have misread what I wrote, I guess.

  • @caricue

    @caricue

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randomness8819 It's certainly possible that I misinterpreted what you wrote. It's also possible that you didn't understand where I was coming from, or maybe we are talking about completely different things. The comments on YT are a special place that fosters misunderstanding and misinterpretation. I stick by my original point. Copernicus was primarily arguing against the religious idea of special creation, but due to a lack of actual knowledge of any other solar systems, generalized this idea that earth was not specially created by God to the idea that we were average and not in any unusual position or configuration. I feel that it is important to update your ideas based on any new information that is gathered by science, and not try to continue a theological debate from the 16th century.

  • @randomness8819

    @randomness8819

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@caricue Yes it seems we are having a different discussion. All I said was a super earth was discovered and that focusing on a hope of our species being unique essentially takes away from our small but important place in the scheme of all things. you believe that's not right and thats is ok. I love having convos with others so plz note that, I mean no disrespect to you or the commenter above.

  • @philjamieson5572
    @philjamieson5572 Жыл бұрын

    I sincerely doubt that there are any other lifeforms out there. I definitely, however, strongly believe that we have an infinite capacity to delude ourselves about just about anything.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    The idea of independent technological civilizations in galaxy that may only communicate sporadically on an ad hoc basis has merit in a number of ways; including difficulty of interstellar travel, greater feasibility of communication and the practicality of interaction.

  • @jimhamlin6551
    @jimhamlin65513 жыл бұрын

    they are here wheather you want to believe or not ...and certain people have come in contact with them..and just because other people havent had this experience ..doesnt mean they dont exist and just because you dont have evidence ...again doesnt mean they dont exist and remember the people on earth are thinking in terms of the technology we have Other forms of life with technology that we dont even understand exist ...

  • @paulkendra5504
    @paulkendra55043 жыл бұрын

    I remember Traveling as a child and coming upon a playground. It was filled with many other children and all sorts of happenings going on. As I drew closer I could see all kinds of kids, of all kinds of colors doing all kinds of things, all Babbeling excitedly. I leaned on the fence to watch. Though the park was very large I noticed everyone had sprawled into separate areas of the playground and then into smaller and smaller groups. It was hard for me to understand. These groups would then begin to argue and fight for no apparent reason. The clashes would very often if not always end with extreme violence and death. So I simply decided I would try another playground and went on about my travels.

  • @oscarantoniomoreno5247

    @oscarantoniomoreno5247

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like your style dude.

  • @adelaforce
    @adelaforce2 жыл бұрын

    cant remember the last time listened to the radio...

  • @duncanwallace7760
    @duncanwallace7760 Жыл бұрын

    One possibility for the technology argument is that we are the first (or one of the first) to develop technology. In that case there could be other intelligent lifeforms, but no communications yet. The first could search all they want and not hear anything else trying to communicate.

  • @homealone931
    @homealone9313 жыл бұрын

    Sad to think that only one type of fish lives in the ocean..

  • @daniellevy4104

    @daniellevy4104

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes but thats comparing the perfect recipe for life (the Oceans on Earth) to the a completely dead place like Mars ... How many species of fish are on Mars?

  • @homealone931

    @homealone931

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daniellevy4104 really???

  • @daniellevy4104

    @daniellevy4104

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@homealone931 yeah , where is there a planet like earth? And over the course of the earth where has there been a creature like man ?

  • @daniellevy4104

    @daniellevy4104

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Bob Thomas see thats the problem , your logic is flawed , and there are more than Billions , there are Millions and Billions of Galaxies and each of those contains at least 60 billion planets ... and yet no observable life , look at the Fermi Paradox .... and the Great Filter Paradox .... this is Science not just some assumption...

  • @daniellevy4104

    @daniellevy4104

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Bob Thomas ignorance is bliss , but from what I determine from you , it seems like a nightmare .

  • @ianjames1179
    @ianjames11792 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic !!! What an awesome documentary. One of the best 26 mins I have ever spent on KZread. Confession. I was already a rare earth theorist anyway.

  • @piperyork7933
    @piperyork79332 жыл бұрын

    Midway through the guy said that technology is exponential. The premise being intelligent life in another Galaxy would find a way to make it known that they were there. However as we look far into space we are actually looking back in time the further away we are the longer ago it was. So as we view other galaxies we are looking millions of years into the past as they are when viewing us and our little corner.

  • @stoictraveler1
    @stoictraveler19 ай бұрын

    It looks like we have craft. This emplies that life may be a dynamic, intentional outcome of our universe. Life is a component just like stars, quazars, etc. The Implications are vast. Fine tuning seems designed, or evolved, to bring life. On and on. It would aupport views on consciousness which suggest a synergistic relationship between mind and matter.

  • @elikillaa6723
    @elikillaa67233 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered this show today and I’m definitely a fan and subscribed watcher to this channel, thank you.

  • @haimbenavraham1502
    @haimbenavraham15023 жыл бұрын

    Presently, it appears, we have to treasure what is.

  • @Zorlof
    @Zorlof2 жыл бұрын

    Your entire channel is awesome and so addictive. The answer is that space is so enormous that the probability of finding intelligent life in this galaxy is next to zero. From another galaxy? Don't hold your breath.

  • @milannesic5718

    @milannesic5718

    Жыл бұрын

    They would find us, because of the Fermi paradox

  • @hughbarton5743
    @hughbarton57432 жыл бұрын

    The idea that other lifeforms would be similar to us puts this entire debate aside. I do believe that the development of intelligence is inevitable as it represents a significant advantage in terms of survival of a species, but there is no reason to expect that it resembles us in any way.

  • @knarftrakiul3881
    @knarftrakiul38812 жыл бұрын

    Imagine each grain of sand on earth was a galaxy...then spred each grain of sand out until their is 6 miles in between each grain..then ur just scratching the surface

  • @oldcodger9388
    @oldcodger93882 жыл бұрын

    Yet another reason to love Kuhn. He is not only brilliant. He is open minded. He has a generous heart. He has a good human being.

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Being open minded is fine, but not if you ignore facts! One must place fact before all else or you're just wasting time.

  • @angelkaty630
    @angelkaty6302 жыл бұрын

    I particularly like that last gentleman...his argument or vision is much like mine...something similar to STAR Trek where it is the pioneer, rebel, and much still human character that will drive forth and discover new worlds and civilizations.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    What is the role and extent of intelligence in galaxy?

  • @KoNqueeFtador
    @KoNqueeFtador3 жыл бұрын

    Ive watched documentaries on conciousness and i think it plays a big deal on how we communicate with them

  • @darkorse9752

    @darkorse9752

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are telepathic. Their science revolves strictly around electromagnetism, and brain signals are electrical signals. Praying is a form of telepathy. Pope's and Arch bishops use to carry around gold or copper cross staffs, which acts as a conductive antenna. Everything in the universe to some degree is electromagnetic, including a living body.

  • @fredb2022
    @fredb20223 жыл бұрын

    If we dip a cup of water from the ocean and catch no fish, do we then conclude “no fish in the ocean?” Travis Walton and Betty and Barney Hill and the Weiner Brothers would argue “they are here.”

  • @randallmiser2976

    @randallmiser2976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are here I've been with them and there is no doubt. Until you see them yourself no one will admit that they are real.

  • @philthycat1408

    @philthycat1408

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps using something bigger than a cup would help.

  • @SaabAholic

    @SaabAholic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some cups filleth over. Seeing is believing. 👽

  • @andreasjour-spitzer3108

    @andreasjour-spitzer3108

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randallmiser2976 Yes, there are beings here. The problem is, these beings are not what we expect them to be. I don't think they come from the universe we know. They are either time travelers or they come from another dimension or a parallel world. What most of us cannot understand is that they are not particularly interested in us. The interest they have in us apparently relates to a self-interest. These beings definitely have their own agenda. Another problem for many people is understanding that these beings have no interest in that we put our focus on them. Why should they officially land here and give us their technology? Why should they do that? That's absurd. We humans apparently still have the impression that we are the crown of creation. We are possibly only one species among trillion species. As we know, we humans are in the process of destroying our livelihood. Why should these beings have an interest in being in close contact with a form of life like that of humans? These beings are possibly many thousands of years ahead of us. Why should these creatures be so stupid?

  • @mikelessard7492

    @mikelessard7492

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@randallmiser2976 me too bro...I have been visited by the emerther gray race....positive interdimensional beings of light and love that are our cosmic brothers and sisters who have been watching us since antiquity....what race have u met?

  • @piperyork7933
    @piperyork79332 жыл бұрын

    In 2019 the Pentagon confirmed with video that there were unidentified flying phenomena in our airspace. I believe they are referred to as tick tacks. There are several videos available right here on KZread from the United States Navy and Air Force of these machines.

  • @piperyork7933

    @piperyork7933

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnWs2MuyfpuyeZs.html there ya go😎

  • @fredk9999
    @fredk999911 ай бұрын

    Feel free to interview Travis Walton on this topic.

  • @goldentwilight1944
    @goldentwilight19443 жыл бұрын

    The answer to me seems obvious, they are exceeding rare and one heck of a long way away.

  • @Makabert.Abylon

    @Makabert.Abylon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why so rare?

  • @bozo5632

    @bozo5632

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why rare? Even if they were exceedingly common, we still wouldn't see them unless they landed right here and said howdy.

  • @Makabert.Abylon

    @Makabert.Abylon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bozo5632 exactly.. we humans think we are all that... we wouldent see a planet size spacecraft one light year away, or a 100th of that distance even id say

  • @bozo5632

    @bozo5632

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's true. Astronomers are looking right now for a ninth planet, possibly a really big one, possibly even a brown dwarf, much closer than a light year. Imho, if aliens exist at all they probably are rare. But that's based on guesstimates, not facts or observations. The facts we have don't rule out much, not even a crowded galaxy.

  • @Makabert.Abylon

    @Makabert.Abylon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bozo5632 yeah i agree, but what is rare on a cosmic scale. 1 out of 1.000.000.000 would still be good odds :)

  • @mahalallel2012
    @mahalallel20123 жыл бұрын

    Maybe aliens don't care whether there is other life in the universe because they are busy making their world better

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, clearly you can't know that, but good for them if they exist. Again, you can only guess about that.

  • @mahalallel2012

    @mahalallel2012

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geoden And you are also guessing that they are not. Touche!

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mahalallel2012 No, I rarely make guesses of any kind, I like to deal with facts. There's been plenty alien rubbish spouted but zero scientific evidence presented.

  • @tommycollier9172

    @tommycollier9172

    2 жыл бұрын

    AS WE SHOULD BE DOING.

  • @grahamsouthern5583

    @grahamsouthern5583

    2 жыл бұрын

    And when we run out of space? It's like an unhatched chick desperately trying to keep the inside of its egg habitable.

  • @chrislecky710
    @chrislecky710 Жыл бұрын

    Would you suggest that we should knowingly visit a planet withs beings that have not managed to overcome a war driven mentality? Our antics may appear too juvenile to bother with.. too high risk