ARTICLE CITATION (read it for yourself!): - Vrij, A., Hartwig, M., & Granhag, P.A. (2019). Reading Lies: Nonverbal Communication and Deception. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, pp. 295-317. www.nationalcac.org/wp-conten... - Top 5 Essential Communication Skills for Professionals (free pdf from Alex): bit.ly/3TxxQLOQuickGuide

@davmac6148

Жыл бұрын

BULLSHIT CHANNEL ?

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video and post. Since you have a PhD you obviously have been involved in research and scientific processes. Explaining the process and why it is valid makes sense. You also gave credit to others and explanations of why it is plausible. To me the micro expressions and things like shaking no but saying yes tell something about state of mind of the person, as I believe Vanessa’s team even has done plenty of research if memory serves. I love the show Lie to Me but it is important to know he gets the background, a “baseline” of normal speech/mannerisms, etc. It is just like you said: if your friend is lying you have other info. I always try to see if there are other causes for body language (such as leg shaking may just be nerves/ADHD). I also listen to what they say and try to get enough of a sample to get a feeling of what they may be communicating. I do think it is possible to detect lies without absolute proof, but you have to pay attention and really be critical of your thought process and honest with yourself too.

@lordgarion514

Күн бұрын

You by chance have a video on how to spot the nonverbal communication skills of a professional liar who's trying to convince you they're telling the truth?

Don't you just love the way how this man uses language to communicate ideas? I find his communication form extremely fascinating, the way how he chooses his lexicon and semantic to guide a topic, relying purely on his knowledge and delivery and not on 'sensationalist, booming music and impact videos'. Truly, if you're really interested in improving your human communication, this is the professor to watch.

Excellent video! I’m getting ready to go into a meeting. This will be a fun thing to have rolling around in the back of my mind while talking to people. 😏

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Have fun!

Okay, said I'd watch it and I did. I actually agree with you, with only the caveat that (you did mention) of knowing the normal behavior of the POI. The more information you have about a persons baseline, the better you'll notice patterns; especially regarding long time/intimate 'subjects'. All in all, I think you covered the many issues regarding "Human Lie Detectors". GJ

Facts tell the story- thanks for an in-depth review 😊

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!!

I really enjoyed this video and I found 16 non-verbal cues affirming you were telling the truth!

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Ha!

@sherrillshaffer579

Жыл бұрын

How many cues indicated he was being deceptive? 😃

@sharit7970

Жыл бұрын

@@sherrillshaffer579 about half...

On the onset, yes, you can't easily tell if someone is being dishonest, however, if you have a baseline that spans a few weeks, these techniques can and do help. I hate when someone is watching another who they've never met and they say their lying bc they're looking a certain direction. That no the way it worls.

I agree! Thank you for this.

Thank you for this information. I need to remember this for my life.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful, Sandy.

Thank you Alex

Actually body language analysis is dangerous for some people such as autistics, and mentally disordered people like anxiety, schizophrenia, etc. because they may have issues with eye contact or just behave a little differently; because their brains are wired differently! That doesn’t mean they are liars. It’s also dangerous for people who are talking about a very traumatic experience, cause you’re sharing something so personal and vulnerable you may not make or maintain eye contact with the person you’re sharing with.

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

What do you mean dangerous? As in being accused of lying? If so, that would definitely increase anxiety!

@bebouswirl

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. This is why I feel having a baseline is incredibly important. Those folks will do something different when lying vs. the truth, if to don't familiarize those baseline ticks, sounds, urges, then you LITERALLY have no base(line) to compare.

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

@@bebouswirl exactly. In the show Lie to Me the main character always got a baseline to see how they are normally. A woman who had Botox in her eyebrows couldn’t move them (in the show) and they pointed it out because she was telling the truth but couldn’t move her eyebrows normally.

@amberelizabethjensen4489

8 ай бұрын

I agree. Anxiety, ADD, ADHD, PTSD, cPTSD, Depression with Irritability, as well as Autism can cause people to look 'shifty'. Not meeting an eye gaze can be from fear, boredom or even tiredness. Not saying that it has zero value, but EVIDENCE and FACTS need to be primary sources of Truth. Those with Antisocial traits can be so charming and cool under pressure. Not all of them have obvious behaviors that fit into a label.

So good. Thank you 😊

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, Connie.

This is a really interesting topic 👍.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Hillary. And thank you for participating in the chat during the premiere.

I still think anxiety is a good indication of deception, then again, I've seen people lie with ease and completely relaxed postures. I think that no one person gives off the same exact body language when lying and you can only tell each particular person's indicators the more you get to know them as an individual. My fiance looks very relaxed when lying, but speaks in shorter sentences, and either avoids eye contact a together or looks at a person very directly without breaking eye contact or blinking until he's finished speaking. I only know that he’s lying when he does this because I've known him long enough to observe and compare it to his regular behaviors.

@alexanderlyon

5 ай бұрын

Good point. We do, I believe, develop a sense about truth and lies when we know people well. My wife, for example, is incredibly honest and very genuine. She's tried to surprise me with fun stuff in the past and she's terrible at it because she acts so differently than she normally does. I can tell something is off.

If I understood correctly, those studies were done in a way that a lot of people were on the "guessing" part whether someone is lying or not, right ? Were the "guessers" experts or regular people ? Also, aren`t there outliers that achieve on a consistent level higher 'guessing' results ?

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Hi Georgi. It's a really good and fair question. As mentioned, I suggest everybody read the article. There's no password to enter or anything. The studies are all done in slightly different ways and with slightly different methods because there are a variety of approaches people claim work. Having said that, I've yet to see any research results that show so-called experts consistently guess correctly more often than regular people. We are all regular people if we are tested long enough. As far as outliers, that's a good question too but any guesser can get lucky within a limited number of guesses (aka, an outlier) just like flipping a coin 10x can result in 10 heads if you only flip/guess 10x. But if you guess 100x, that number will start to average out to around 50% heads and tails. There are always statistical outliers, in other words, but those outliers would need to repeat their results in follow-up studies. I talk about the alleged talent of so-called professionals about 2/3 of the way through the video and offer a cash prize for anybody who can do it live on camera with a better than 70% accuracy rate (for a grade of a C-). Now, I'm going to sound like I'm contradicting myself here but I am open to the possibility that there are some people who may have a natural talent for sensing when somebody is lying. In fact, I hope that is true. But I need some convincing evidence to believe it. So far, none of the alleged experts ever demonstrate their abilities in a way that could be verified. We are simply supposed to trust that they can do it and that their credibility has already been established.

Wicked video!

Body language is more complicated than people think. There's no "signs of deception". Instead, you look for signs of discomfort. Which is complicated in that you need to know their baseline behavior, reaction to the environment, reaction to the current situation, personality, etc, and the behaviors have to happen in clusters, rather than one single individual "sign", usually accompanied by change in tone of voice, etc. What interrogators usually do is look for these changes in baseline when asking questions, then hone in and put pressure on that particular point of the conversation.

@Buddy330

Жыл бұрын

TLDR: there's no way to tell 100% sure based on general non verbal analysis that someone is lying. But it does help if you know what you're doing, when you add all the factors together.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Good points, Michael. Yes, interrogators and detectives look for clusters of behaviors but they're still just trying to make informed guesses. I personally think the baseline approach has some promise but only insofar as it helps spot discomfort, anxiety, etc. generally. It still doesn't mean that deception is happening. But, like I said near the end of the video, it gives investigators a reason to ask more questions and gives them a focus or direction. But it only helps when it is one of many different methods of looking for clues. Maybe more pressure leads to a confession or verifiable information. When a person knows their "busted," they will often confess to tell their side of the story. They often trick the "perp" to make them feel as if they've been caught in a lie even if the proof isn't 100% yet.

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

Which is why it is important to lawyer up, plead the 5th even if innocent, etc. it isn’t that you have something to hide, but false accusations/confessions do happen.

I'd love to see you do a video on the Implicit Association Test (IAT), which lots of people cite as a gold-standard for discovering racial bias. The truth is that the IAT is psychometrically unsound. Yet people keep backing up their standpoint epistemology (their supposed radar for implicit bias) with the IAT. Just a thought. I like you and your content though, so if this would be a career ender, please don't.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Hi, M W. I've also heard some convincing criticisms about the soundness of the IAT. I took it myself to see what the experience was like and I left unimpressed by the methodology. All that said, I won't be making a video about it because it is too far away from the central focus of my channel. But I also doubt it would be a career-ender if I did a video like that. I just don't think that topic in general is what my audience is tuning in for which is communication skills, public speaking tips, and leadership development. The topic of nonverbal cues for lie detection is a big issue in my field.

@MW-ic7lr

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderlyon Too far outside the wheelhouse. Makes sense. Thanks!

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I should have said exactly that because I love that expression.

If non lying test subject trys to decieve through body or verbal clues he can sway results

Alex! would you review Eliza Bleu. Her speech and body language looks so off. She is getting tons of KZreadrs banned and Twitter accounts. This would be a huge video to cover bc I believe she is displaying signs of fabrication. Follower subscribers, if you agree, please leave a comment with the request. Hopefully Alex could see it and possibly consider it. That would be dope

This may mean there are those judged as liars by law enforcement that are honest and innocent.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

That's always possible. But the opinions of police officers don't hold much weight because "He looked like he was lying" isn't going to be counted as evidence. Still, investigators make mistakes all of the time and focus on the wrong suspects.

@HelicopterShownUp

Жыл бұрын

And the legal systems heavy reliance on fixing plea deals means that people are often coerced into charges they didn't commit to get a lesser sentence for a crime that they're told will be proven they committed.

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

Yep. This is why a lawyer is very important if you are called to interview or just chat at the station.

Are these methods have been tested in other countries? If not, then it might be only works for Americans.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

The methods don't work in any of the studies in any of the countries. I encourage you to read the article that I linked to in the description. It's a great resource as a starting place.

Too research based, GIVE US THE SUGAR. :P I personally know if someone is lying or not if you know how they tell the truth, so you compare the truth cues and the lies cues, everyone is different even in the slightest.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

I hear you. It's long and detailed. For this video, I was committed to doing a deep dive into the research. I'll likely do a follow-up video or two with different angles that are much shorter and really practical.

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

I’m guessing you are an INFJ according to the Meyer Briggs test based upon your name. I know several who test that way (scientific accuracy confirmed or denied Is beyond the point of this post on that test). I’ve seen the intuition on INFJs and man is it crazy how quickly it locks on to things most people miss. I’ve learned to see it too (with some focus) and do believe it is possible. That said, I agree with the other factors. I haven’t read the paper yet but I wonder how many factors in parallel were used? Generally a baseline and other corroboration help as well as a knowledge of the person or plenty of conversation examples. I look for the classic signs to explain behavior/emotions, and maybe tie that to what a person is doing. If you are trying to pay attention or catch intuitively it always is backed by other evidence. For example, a person may say they adore others but have a smirk micro expression. You may pick up on it. Instinctively you watch them to see how they act with others and other circumstances much more closer. Maybe they aren’t lying about adoring others but maybe have something else on their mind which causes the micro expression of smirking. Given a few days of observation and other conversations, especially in similar situations with others can be illuminating. Some other evidence presents that you are more in tune to pick up because your intuition locked onto it suddenly, and you focus on it right away. Most people have to have something major happen to clue them in I’ve noticed.

I've seen you review one of the best Ronald Reagan. Will you review Joe Biden???

Dude, we all can tell when someone is living to us. Every day, all day long, of course not. Does that mean we are or aren't lie detectors? Kinda. The times an average person needs to detect a lie is minimal and so it really doesn't really matter. However, in those times it matters, never seem to happen in a lab. So your challenge is false bravado as well. I am a scientist as well and understand the need for research. However, when scaleing up from the lab, we have to adjust to real world circumstances. How do you propose to bring the real world into your research? Can your research stand up to real world circumstances? Research is only valid, whet it truly reflects it's values into the real world and it works. So far, the research you've stated is of no use in the real world, though it may be a basis of further study, not smugness.

@sveatch40

Жыл бұрын

I am sorry but for a scientist, you don't seem to speak in very definite terms-even when commenting on a KZread video. That doesn't mean you're lying. It only means I don't know what you're talking about.

@alexanderlyon

Жыл бұрын

Hi Raymond. I agree that we all may sometimes be able to tell when somebody is lying to us. I mention that in the video. But for every lie we catch, we miss another. And that has really nothing to do with the video. The video is about what so-called experts are selling. Also, it's not my research. So, the bravado or smugness is not about my findings. My cash prize challenge may sound bold but I really would be 100% thrilled to be proven wrong on camera by somebody who could tell lies from truth reliably at a rate of 70% or better. I would find that a genuine reason to celebrate and it would make an amazing video. But my point is one that you seem to be making. The alleged "experts" who claim to be able to do this don't EVER do it in the real world. They claim to be able to do it but they show no proof. And the real world is infinitely more complex than a lab. If they can't do it in a lab under favorable conditions where the rules are clear (or teach the techniques in the same conditions), there's no chance they can do it in real life with a passing grade when it matters most. But to be clear, there's a long history of real-world research from actual police interrogations with real suspects/criminals studied very closely on video. That's as real-world as it gets when the stakes are at their highest. It's still about a 50/50 proposition. As mentioned in the video, when people act suspiciously, it could lead to further digging and give law enforcement additional clues but they have to get concrete evidence to check what was said against reality. Either way, there's not much to argue about here unless there's some other data or other evidence to show. The bottom line is that the sheer number of charlatans out there claiming to be able to teach this crap makes this issue worthy of a challenge. I've rarely made put-up-or-shut-up videos, but this is one that I'm happy to post. Researchers have been showing for years that it can't be done. It's time that people saying it can be done demonstrate that in a credible way.

So please take this pseudoscience with a grain of salt and be kind to neurodivergent people!

Lie vibes it's the unseen the vibration from inside a person's sacral people listen to a person voice I feel a person's soul music the feeling of their decit comes from the shift of their energy their arura them changes colors which then is felt through wave lengths of shades of color

@paulstejskal

11 ай бұрын

Uh what? You mean synesthesia or something?

@lonewolf787

11 ай бұрын

@@paulstejskal exactly!!