Why Obi-Wan CONSTANTLY uses Forbidden Moves in Lightsaber Combat (Not Why You Think)

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  • @funkypunk1001
    @funkypunk1001Ай бұрын

    Obi-Wan in a duel be like: block, block, block, block, block, block, block, HORRIBLY MUTILATING FINISHING MOVE

  • @gauthierwagner3365

    @gauthierwagner3365

    Ай бұрын

    For real, he just blocks waiting to fill a focus bar

  • @willvgo2950

    @willvgo2950

    Ай бұрын

    This is not entirely dissimilar to how I play tactical games. I play very defensively forcing my opponents to expend effort on the attack & then I strike when they are vulnerable.

  • @jonnovember2136

    @jonnovember2136

    Ай бұрын

    Obi Wan Kenobi💩 is the real reason why we had Vader... #DarthTonder🤔 would have put an end to this nuisance and take his #TDBank💳 card holder status... 🌎💘💰

  • @jonnovember2136

    @jonnovember2136

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@gauthierwagner3365Obi Wan Kenobi💩 is the real reason why we had Vader... #DarthTonder🤔 would have put an end to this nuisance and take his #TDBank💳 card holder status... 🌎💘💰

  • @jonnovember2136

    @jonnovember2136

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@willvgo2950Obi Wan Kenobi💩 is the real reason why we had Vader... #DarthTonder🤔 would have put an end to this nuisance and take his #TDBank💳 card holder status... 🌎💘💰

  • @idk-zg7fy
    @idk-zg7fyАй бұрын

    The code... upheld by Jedi in a temple who never faced Sith. Obi-Wan is the one who left the temple, and stared the dark side in the eyes.

  • @zehkiel8018

    @zehkiel8018

    Ай бұрын

    I mean... he really did do Darth Maul dirty. He could have decapitated him. It was the objectively light side option. But that moment, along a select few others, was him giving in to the dark.

  • @kopkortestere

    @kopkortestere

    Ай бұрын

    That was the biggest problem with Jedi Temple. They never faced siths. They never listened to Yoda who actually saw dark side. They were all like "ok boomer" and they got involved in politics. Then Palpatine just eradicated them. Who could have seen this coming?????

  • @Themilsedition

    @Themilsedition

    Ай бұрын

    Staying on the light side of the force more than just fighting style.

  • @neerGdyahS

    @neerGdyahS

    Ай бұрын

    @@zehkiel8018 Meanwhile if he HAD freaking decapitated him that would've gone pretty hard in the film.

  • @zehkiel8018

    @zehkiel8018

    Ай бұрын

    @neerGdyahS Oh yeah. Would've been way easier to animate in the old CGI engines too.

  • @Dark_Prince089
    @Dark_Prince089Ай бұрын

    “The code is more what you'd call 'guidelines' than actual rules.” ---Captain Barbosa 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jerrychubb6168

    @jerrychubb6168

    Ай бұрын

    Seriously...so true.

  • @theunshelter

    @theunshelter

    Ай бұрын

    *Darth Barbosa 😂

  • @jasong5094

    @jasong5094

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, if they really wanted to keep to the code, their primary weapon would have been blasters w/ stunners. In the end, there really isn't a nice way to use a weapon that vaporizes everything it touches on a person.

  • @mrhouse3850

    @mrhouse3850

    Ай бұрын

    There's alot more to this comment than alot of people think. Like the whole "just turn your light sabe on and off thing" that IS one of the 9 styles. its "forbidden" but its more of a taboo where use it if you HAVE to but don't brag about going around bragging about it.

  • @TWEEDGAMES

    @TWEEDGAMES

    Ай бұрын

    1.30 he just takes it literally when encouraged do disarm and disable enemies. Vader gets the best parking spaces even with the suit

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousaАй бұрын

    Obi-Wan was a survivor. That required constant adaptation and evolution. He did that masterfully staying true to The Light.

  • @timothyvanderschultzen9640

    @timothyvanderschultzen9640

    Ай бұрын

    This.

  • @eknielsen72

    @eknielsen72

    Ай бұрын

    Yes!

  • @redwizardmatt

    @redwizardmatt

    Ай бұрын

    I'd make the argument that leaving Anakin to die horribly on that lava bed was one of the most hateful, cruel, and messed up things anyone in the series ever does. The proper action would have been to mercy kill his opponent, or take him as a prisoner. But the slow death? No, that's just wrong. In war the two worst ways to kill are gut shots and thermal/chemical burns. Why? Because they're slow, they're agonizing, and if you manage to survive them you're messed up and broken for life. That's why we banned weapons that have a high probability of maiming without killing. It's also why the Jedi banned those moves. Both of the foes he uses them on survive and come back as worse people from the trauma. Now, where is the wisdom in that?

  • @xxxthwagdrakexxx4672

    @xxxthwagdrakexxx4672

    Ай бұрын

    ​@redwizardmatt tbf the former person murdered his master in front of him while also not looking like he was going to survive getting cut in half along with anakin mauling a bunch of children for the sake of power. If he hadn't have done that then the galaxy would be far worse off

  • @redwizardmatt

    @redwizardmatt

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672 Bull. As the video makes clear, he could have actually killed Maul. Instead he merely wounded him, leading to Maul killing the woman Kenobi loves, among many other people. He could have put Anakin out of his misery, but instead he left him to burn which lead to Vader murdering dozens of Jedi and presumably billions of other people. If your argument is that anger made Kenobi stupid, I agree. If you make the argument that he behaved like a Jedi, you are wrong.

  • @stemmenfratarnet
    @stemmenfratarnetАй бұрын

    The fact that Obi Wan says that he could never see himself using Mou Kei, adds to the irony and the heartbreak of the duel between Kenobi and Anakin. He not only had to use this move, but he had to use it on the one person he never thought he would have to.

  • @johsmith2481
    @johsmith2481Ай бұрын

    "...which are forbidden for a Jedi to perform on living beings and they both just happen to be Kenobi's speciality." Lmaoooo

  • @Hiipower23

    @Hiipower23

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂I scrolled the comments seen this just as he was saying this

  • @Ancienthistoryshorts

    @Ancienthistoryshorts

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love it

  • @Ancienthistoryshorts

    @Ancienthistoryshorts

    Ай бұрын

    @@Hiipower23I had just passed it when I heard it and had to go back up, read it again and had to comment🤣🤣

  • @WardenWolf

    @WardenWolf

    Ай бұрын

    I honestly think he's kind of misinterpreting it. You're not supposed to use it on living beings if you have a choice. Remember that the Jedi during this period weren't used to fighting other Jedi. Banning these techniques is perfectly reasonable normally. It's just not a good look, beyond the fact that certain moves are more of a channel for anger than others. Before the Sith returned, nobody could really stand up to Jedi in combat so there just wasn't a need. I think they're more than willing to overlook it when the Jedi is literally fighting for their life.

  • @Ancienthistoryshorts

    @Ancienthistoryshorts

    Ай бұрын

    @@WardenWolf I like your perspective on that man i hadn’t thought about it like that before

  • @lorenzog7811
    @lorenzog7811Ай бұрын

    Obi wan wasnt the strongest Jedi. He made up for it with cunning, sometimes bending the "rules". He did what he had to.

  • @gren8te319

    @gren8te319

    Ай бұрын

    that's the only logical way someone in a job that was getting killed to extinction in his 30s could live to over twice that age

  • @yeeyourlasthaw2803

    @yeeyourlasthaw2803

    Ай бұрын

    I will do what I must

  • @Juhnimus

    @Juhnimus

    Ай бұрын

    In a way that makes him strongest cause he could think with his own mind and not to getting stuck rules that could get him killed but still not make habit about it. Somebody would have noticed in Clone wars that every time Kenobi is in battle there is score of legless sliced up bodies around.

  • @zehkiel8018

    @zehkiel8018

    Ай бұрын

    He had to cut Maul in half instead of cutting off his head?

  • @Sora-zb8kv

    @Sora-zb8kv

    Ай бұрын

    He learnef from the best rule-bender master in the galaxy after all

  • @Trotgirlsummer
    @TrotgirlsummerАй бұрын

    I’ll just point out that against Maul Obi-wan did try to disarm him on Naboo, and even destroyed half of his weapon. On Mustafar, Yoda sent him with 1 goal: destroy the Sith. The only reason he didn’t finish Vader/Anakin is because he left his fate to the will of the force, which in many ways was him learning from the mistakes of the Jedi of the past era and learning from Qui-gon about following the will of the living force. Against Maul on Tatooine, he is facing down the single most tenacious opponent ever, who has just discovered that he’s there protecting the Chosen One Luke Skywalker. He has no choice but to end Maul’s life to protect the fate of the Galaxy. He even tried to reason with Maul first, telling him that he shouldn’t define himself by his ability to destroy and take life. He tried to make an appeal to him to not continue down the dark path, even after all that Maul had done to him, and then comforted him when he died!!! If this isn’t the Jedi way I don’t know what is guys. They’re not pacifists. As far as any “forbidden moves” all of these point towards a Jedi taking as little life as possible and doing as little harm as possible. I think that when you weigh the totality of Obi-wan’s life and choices, he follows that directive. Even in the legends book “Kenobi” he tries to get Orin Gault to turn back like 5 times before his final fate is sealed. I mean come on. If you want to claim Anakin crosses lines I’m here for it, but these moves are taught so they can be used in extreme circumstances, which is only when Obi-wan uses them

  • @shkotayd9749

    @shkotayd9749

    Ай бұрын

    Well freaking said. And I agree. The totality of Kenobi's life is dedicated to the spirit and rules of the Jedi. And when he had to break them, he only did so at the last. And that is why they are there.

  • @darkwolfe6286

    @darkwolfe6286

    Ай бұрын

    This is what happens when you're a master of defense. It means your offense better be game ending, because you might not get another chance.

  • @joshuarobinson6011

    @joshuarobinson6011

    Ай бұрын

    Obi wan did disarm anakin on mustafar 😂

  • @Mephilles13

    @Mephilles13

    Ай бұрын

    @@joshuarobinson6011 well he also disleged him

  • @tenn_ore

    @tenn_ore

    Ай бұрын

    What Obi-Wan did to Anakin by leaving him to the will of the force is also in line with the likelihood that even though Anakin was maimed, he could still have put up some kind of fight, enough that to land the killing blow, Obi-Wan would probably have either used dark side power or be consumed by it. It's his misfortune that Palpatine was arriving at the scene and he had to get to Padme ASAP to try and save her children.

  • @mattberg6328
    @mattberg6328Ай бұрын

    I used to think very little of Obi Wan when I started liking Star Wars, then I learned how much he had to overcome to perfect his life (force abilities, lightsaber technique, etc.). As someone with lesser connection to the force who didn't let that stop him from being his best, we can be our best even when we feel far less capable of great things. Food for thought.

  • @neerGdyahS

    @neerGdyahS

    Ай бұрын

    The core thing that has always been true about Obi-Wan it's that he survives an awful lot. He's a jedi in a time when there aren't many around anymore.

  • @Jghost11
    @Jghost11Ай бұрын

    The jedi code was more like a set of general guidelines lol

  • @joshie6213

    @joshie6213

    Ай бұрын

    So…. It’s the Pirates Code?

  • @Jghost11

    @Jghost11

    Ай бұрын

    @@joshie6213 Aye

  • @joshie6213

    @joshie6213

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jghost11 but where’s the rum gone?

  • @pranc236

    @pranc236

    Ай бұрын

    @@joshie6213i brought spice and death-sticks….🤷‍♂️

  • @Ragnorok657

    @Ragnorok657

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @DaRealPhillyJawn
    @DaRealPhillyJawnАй бұрын

    In a fight for survival there are no rules.

  • @igorheerdtigor4823

    @igorheerdtigor4823

    Ай бұрын

    what about the rule "try to survive?" if one part its not trying there is no fight, so that is a rule

  • @DaRealPhillyJawn

    @DaRealPhillyJawn

    Ай бұрын

    @igorheerdtigor4823 that's called survival of the fittest. Thinning the herd from the weak.

  • @jotheunissen9274
    @jotheunissen9274Ай бұрын

    Jedi code, Geneva Convention, identity fraud,... Obi-Wan breaks all the rules

  • @Epicmonk117

    @Epicmonk117

    Ай бұрын

    At least he didn’t jaywalk.

  • @kananisha

    @kananisha

    Ай бұрын

    Like his master 😂

  • @bobafett6174

    @bobafett6174

    Ай бұрын

    obi wans drinking really changed him

  • @jotheunissen9274

    @jotheunissen9274

    Ай бұрын

    @@bobafett6174 Those deathsticks...

  • @pranc236

    @pranc236

    Ай бұрын

    False surrenders several times, both anakin and obi wan

  • @randomasgray
    @randomasgrayАй бұрын

    Obi Wan understood how hypocritical the jedi code had gotten. It was more about following hard rules than actually upholding the ideology and values the rules were suppose to represent. Even the rules were being disregarded by the council often depending on what was the most politically advantageous as well. He saw it and didn't allow it to dictate his actions in critical moments.

  • @Yung_DuKe98

    @Yung_DuKe98

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like America

  • @questionmark576

    @questionmark576

    9 күн бұрын

    It dictated his actions in every single critical moment, because the only critical moments he ever experienced are the ones that could have prevented Anakin's fall. In all those moments he stopped himself from doing what he knew was the right thing, and avoided responsibility by following the rules. It took Anakin destroying the entire Jedi order to get Obi Wan to finally take the responsibility on himself. Obi Wan's life's purpose was to help Anakin bring balance to the force. His experiences with Qui Gon and Satine made him ideal for that purpose. The story did not have to become as dark as it did. That was just the cost of Obi Wan's repeated failures. At any point all he had to do is say "It's ok Anakin. I see you. I will put you first, and we will take care of this together." Fall averted. It took raising an entire different person to do it for him.

  • @mapsgoonthewall5396

    @mapsgoonthewall5396

    5 күн бұрын

    @@questionmark576 OP and your response to OP is good shit.

  • @edstringer1138
    @edstringer1138Ай бұрын

    Except a stab with a lightsaber through the torso doesn't kill Girl bosses . ....

  • @Drazil100

    @Drazil100

    Ай бұрын

    Boobies are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. That and Disney writing.

  • @karlrovey

    @karlrovey

    Ай бұрын

    It does if it's through the heart.

  • @stretopovermind9680

    @stretopovermind9680

    Ай бұрын

    @@karlrovey Aim for the head. Girl boss does not have a heart.

  • @RT42069

    @RT42069

    Ай бұрын

    Except Shaak Ti, who died to this move twice

  • @user-yh9jg3og8v

    @user-yh9jg3og8v

    Ай бұрын

    @@stretopovermind9680 Do they have brains tho ?

  • @kananisha
    @kananishaАй бұрын

    The lesson is: If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin" 😂😂

  • @mlo009

    @mlo009

    26 күн бұрын

    Eddie Kenobi.

  • @thehackofalltrades1630
    @thehackofalltrades1630Ай бұрын

    My belief is that Obi-Wan knew that these enemies were more powerful then him but had to use his wits and unconventional techniques that his opponents would be shocked to see. Giving him a chance/ opportunity to end the fight right there and he was ready to do what it takes for the greater good.

  • @6wild6flower6
    @6wild6flower6Ай бұрын

    My friends think I'm a star wars guru. But really I'm Just repeating your videos to them.

  • @6wild6flower6

    @6wild6flower6

    Ай бұрын

    Jk, I'm lonely and have no friends.

  • @vincentshadetree

    @vincentshadetree

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@6wild6flower6You got Samurai Champloo's Departure in your playlist, that makes you cool to me, so I'm your friend 😎

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312Ай бұрын

    In a ideal combat scenario the Jedi will be disarmed or disabled their opponents with the more careful strikes, however we must remember that the Sith were the Jedi equals or their superior when it came to lightsaber combat, and in a really life or death scenario no move is beyond use. The fights that Obi Wan was facing throughout the Clone Wars were against some of the most deadliest lightsaber combatants in Galactic history and that means that he had to use every trick and ability he had when it came to these duels for him to survive.

  • @philipearakaki

    @philipearakaki

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, thats why i think the council didnt gave Obi-Wan shit for the Darth Maul thing. Decapitations are nigh Impossible to pull of in real fights, in fact, in a Sword duel its actually kinda hard to cause straight up lethal damage against an enemy thats on the same skill level, If you check some hema or kenjutsu tournaments, most duels end with a side slice, a thigh slice or some fuckup with the hands.

  • @neerGdyahS

    @neerGdyahS

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly it's a miracle (and mandatory plot armor) that he survives the clone war era. Most people who fight the people he does would end up dead.

  • @mlo009

    @mlo009

    26 күн бұрын

    @@philipearakaki The Council were like, "Holy shit, Obi-Wan, we thought you were a goner. More power to you for doing the forbidden slashing. We'll just keep it hush hush."

  • @donstarlancer
    @donstarlancerАй бұрын

    Obi-Wan “ I’ve got a bad feeling about this and I’ve got shit to do” SLASH CHOP

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolfАй бұрын

    From a biomechanics standpoint, the slice makes more sense than the stab in this instance. The problem with the stab is it leaves your saber motionless and without momentum, so if you need to block you can't. You can't really do this safely against an opponent who isn't at least staggered. And Maul was not staggered, only surprised, and his lightsaber was in a position that could have slashed him if Maul just spun to the right. By slicing instead of stabbing, Obi-Wan took the quicker route to killing him, a route that also would have allowed him to follow through and intercept any blow in progress. If you look at the angles involved, the slash would have impacted Maul's lightsaber blade AFTER bisecting him. The slash was the right choice from a combat perspective. I don't think the Jedi look at it quite as strictly as the moderator implies. I think they look at it from the perspective of, "Don't do this. It's bad. It can serve as a channel for rage and just generally generates bad press. But if it's the only option to save your life, you got to do what you got to do." The rules were put in place when the Sith were thought to be extinct; they weren't factoring in combat against comparatively-skilled lightsaber users where you need every technique available as long as you don't channel the Dark Side.

  • @chaoticwisdom4312
    @chaoticwisdom4312Ай бұрын

    He was the Tupac of Star Wars..."I ain't a killer but don't push me!"

  • @flawed1
    @flawed1Ай бұрын

    The ultimate irony of the Jedi for me will always be that their strict adherence to a code was the very attachment they were trying to avoid

  • @dillsonpills9421
    @dillsonpills9421Ай бұрын

    You can definitely see Qui Gon Jinn and his teachings in him. The code being a suggestion. Rather tune into the will of the force and the greater good over all. With no choice left then hits a dark sider with a special dark side fatality to add insult to injury! What a legend 😂😂😂

  • @uorso
    @uorsoАй бұрын

    "how unicvilized" - Obi Wan Kenobi

  • @willvgo2950
    @willvgo2950Ай бұрын

    Those limitations are fine when you have a substantial advantage, but not when compliance gives the other side the advantage.

  • @AlexKosSaheli
    @AlexKosSaheliАй бұрын

    You guys realize how stupid "forbidden moves" sound? When you have a war. -_________________________-

  • @zachmercer1065

    @zachmercer1065

    Ай бұрын

    Tbf it sounds like a pretty dumb concept. …and then someone invents the T-virus for warfare reasons and accidentally hits a civilian area or decides to use lasers irl and literally explode people from the inside with no chance of survival, and that’s why we have things like the Geneva Convention lol

  • @timian210

    @timian210

    Ай бұрын

    It really does lol imagine having to defend your wife and kids from death while having only one SURE FIRE move to end the threat but some old dudes say you cant use it for the sake of, you know ..."morals" and sh** 🙄

  • @KameronJ7

    @KameronJ7

    Ай бұрын

    It's a thing in reality too. That's why we deem certain things "war crimes" and have less sympathy to those who commit them. After all the brutality they received the Russians were not very forgiving of Nazi soldiers.

  • @zachmercer1065

    @zachmercer1065

    Ай бұрын

    For the Jedi there’s a real risk of being corrupted and turning to the Dark Side for some of these, Jedi were meant to kill only as a last resort, droids not included of course. Irl though, war crimes are a thing, and that’s because certain weapons and types of weapons are considered either inhumane or too dangerous to non-combatants.

  • @ethansanders5706

    @ethansanders5706

    Ай бұрын

    I think it’s a perfectly reasonable guideline. Especially when you hold such power you need to be able to restrain yourself. In real life it is illegal to intentionally take non lethal shots to inflict pain, however tactically it makes sense in war as it will take more than one opponent out of the fight as someone needs to care for the wounded. Chemical weapons apply here too. They are hard to ward off and are extremely effective, but dying to them is a slow horrible experience. War isn’t a pass for cruelty but some see it as such. Therefore rules must be put in place, even in personal self defense, otherwise it is simply evil men torturing other men with a thin veil of justification.

  • @peter-radiantpipes2800
    @peter-radiantpipes2800Ай бұрын

    A vertical top down strike would kill as humanely as a decapitation if not faster actually. In Naboo, Going for Maul’s head would have left him open without guard to his midsection and it was safer to do what he did. - fencing with Epee, Saber and Kendo for 15 years as a kid into my 20’s and staff training as a former martial arts instructor. Not saying I’m some master but pick these things up over a period of time. Jmho

  • @houselightkell

    @houselightkell

    Ай бұрын

    I think he was saying that Obi Wan could've sliced Darth Maul during that flip, while he was still in the air, right as he was upside down

  • @philipearakaki

    @philipearakaki

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@houselightkelldefending the Head is actually quite easy, the point of contact is quite small and honestly Obi-Wan was more focused on not losing balance when landing than landing an aerial strike, that wasnt really an opening If you think about It. Theres no "winning by a centimeter" in Sword fights, tbh, more often than not, its quite possible that both sides end fucked up

  • @Leonidas-ws2iw
    @Leonidas-ws2iwАй бұрын

    This video is absolutely perfect just like this entire channel, i’m still blown away by how much deeper you can dive into the world of starwars and how well you explain it, you’re like the Neil deGrasse Tyson of Star Wars

  • @andrewadams530
    @andrewadams530Ай бұрын

    Such a good video. I love your insights into these different aspects of the Starwars lore. Thank you for your continued hard work

  • @alexryan5313
    @alexryan5313Ай бұрын

    Mace Windu used pretty much all of those points of contact against Jango Fett

  • @MarsStarcruiser

    @MarsStarcruiser

    Ай бұрын

    More reason why some of this “forbidden..” nonsense, is just bad retcon

  • @derekbeaudoin189
    @derekbeaudoin18929 күн бұрын

    What about that last fight with Maul, where he cuts him in half the other way

  • @kadbenson7540
    @kadbenson7540Ай бұрын

    Obi wan and the clone wars Jedi at large were very, do as I say, not as I do. No wonder anakin didn’t view their word as law, bc they certainly didn’t stick to the standards they themselves demanded

  • @reubenoakley5887
    @reubenoakley588722 күн бұрын

    It's also worth mentioning Obi-Wan's final duel with Maul in Star Wars Rebels. You can see Obi-Wan first take up the stance he favored in Clone Wars, then switch to the simple, humbler stance he used in A New Hope. He ends Maul with a single cut across the chest and immediately deactivates his blade so he can hold Maul in his final moments. There was no anger in him, and he said he was finally cleaning out an old wound. At first, you likely think he was referring to Maul. However, I think he was talking about the wound in his own heart from when Maul killed Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan let go of his hate, and faced Maul the way a Jedi should.

  • @draconightfury9946
    @draconightfury9946Ай бұрын

    Going for mauls mechanical legs is mercy, maul wont feel it. but will be limited to move.

  • @draconightfury9946

    @draconightfury9946

    Ай бұрын

    wholesome ending

  • @yohlool6863
    @yohlool6863Ай бұрын

    Very well explained, I never thought of it this way

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476Ай бұрын

    Obi-Wan was a master of the hypocrisy form.

  • @robertmartinez2752
    @robertmartinez2752Ай бұрын

    That’s an awesome perspective. I agree.

  • @soldio4143
    @soldio414316 күн бұрын

    "The force made me do it." -Kenobi.

  • @brucelamorand32
    @brucelamorand327 күн бұрын

    The subtle "Though Luke disagrees" was great

  • @layniebear1237
    @layniebear1237Ай бұрын

    another great video thanks!~

  • @JakeTheStakeNowIn3D5024
    @JakeTheStakeNowIn3D5024Ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the negotiator..... Negotiates how many arms you will still have when he is done with you.

  • @fishlobs
    @fishlobsАй бұрын

    thanks for this vid, i agree with obi-wans usage of dismemberment vs Anakin and understand it vs maul.

  • @lunabillo715
    @lunabillo715Ай бұрын

    To be fair when it‘s forbidden to use these moves they are certainly a surprise for jedi killers or jedis themselves like anakin. Its a rly smart move against enemies who might be stronger than himself

  • @allenkeith7160
    @allenkeith71603 күн бұрын

    I sometimes bring up my Pureblood-Sith Sith character from the MMO, but I think they would be surprisingly good in the Jedi Temples. They're dark, but not cruel, they seek power to defend themselves, they're not "Good Enough" to be a Jedi, but reasonable and respectful enough to definitely turn a few heads of the Light or Dark side in interest. Had originally wanted them to be "Evil" then some dialog options made me run an interestingly neutral path. Basically, don't give them reason to strike you down or they WILL do it, no hesitation. Although they will forgive genuine mistakes, but not deliberate sabotage and ignorance. They're strong of will and presence, and walking amongst the Jedi... Other than their appearance, probably only the more well-experienced of Jedi would actually sense the Dark Side in them. They were a "Sith" by happenstance (forced into it as a prisoner/slave) but grew strong enough to choose their own path, and just didn't like the Sith or the Jedi B.S... ((All pre-expansion whereafter you basically go to a part of the Universe where you are a Neutral party, regardless of Light or Dark alignment.)) I was happy with how that character turned out along the way, and I can see them being someone that very few knowing members of the Jedi may call on for aid in special situations. My "Rogue Sith" that I would love to work into a Star Wars TTRPG game someday, even starting from the beginning again. Twould be fun.

  • @juribe5202
    @juribe520228 күн бұрын

    Super overly thought out. But i love it, makes sense. It's always true fans and the fandom giving more and more to these great franchises we love. Thank yoi for the video!

  • @eaphantom9214
    @eaphantom9214Ай бұрын

    07:38 - Exactly as i described it in the last presentation 😊

  • @WattsonorSomething
    @WattsonorSomething24 күн бұрын

    Fantastic animation on the lightsabers.

  • @simlindilegetyengana6292
    @simlindilegetyengana6292Ай бұрын

    Can the next one be about why dooku trained asajj ventress to use two lightsabers even though he hates dual wielding

  • @joshuarobinson6011

    @joshuarobinson6011

    Ай бұрын

    I think she was duel wielding as a Jedi padawan and dooku didn’t care since he saw her as a tool over anything

  • @natraan
    @natraanАй бұрын

    most forbidden and "uncivilized" move, killing general grievious with a blaster.

  • @cmdrlightwalker_9877
    @cmdrlightwalker_98779 күн бұрын

    Obi-wan is like that one enemy in every game where all they do is block all your attacks, then wreck 3/4 of your health with one move.

  • @bsmnt23
    @bsmnt23Ай бұрын

    Codes are for duels. Wars are NOT for duels.

  • @AdamDaniel-pn4iw

    @AdamDaniel-pn4iw

    Ай бұрын

    Falling tot he dark side was not an option for General Kenobi

  • @We_Run_Up_Hills
    @We_Run_Up_HillsАй бұрын

    I actually like this view of him, it makes him even more gentle knowing that he can and will maim people when needed

  • @kylelancianese5527
    @kylelancianese5527Ай бұрын

    The jedis rules were like a terms of agreement. We all just ignore the details lol

  • @jobengals86
    @jobengals8624 күн бұрын

    Haha, "a peaceful meadow". Makes me think of Ralph from the Simpsons for some reason.

  • @theunshelter
    @theunshelterАй бұрын

    Interesting lessons to found here

  • @schwarzerritter5724
    @schwarzerritter572413 күн бұрын

    "Always try disarming your opponent." "How about dislegging?" "What?"

  • @ethansanders5706
    @ethansanders5706Ай бұрын

    I think it is surprising but I kind of like this about him. He’s basically a perfect Jedi and person but I think it’s great writing to give him this subtle flaw that shows his true struggle with the dark side. It makes him a more grounded character that being as pure as he is isn’t easy

  • @withinthrall1445
    @withinthrall14458 күн бұрын

    I think one thing to point out with the first fight with Maul, is that it’s explained that Qui Gon reaches out to Kenobi through the force to keep calm and to concentrate. Keep in mind Qui Gon wasn’t immediately killed when Maul stabbed him. Kenobi really only uses these moves when he doesn’t have any other option, like he did with anakin. I feel like the council realized once the Sith returned, it didn’t matter how Kenobi did it, he clearly didn’t have any other option, especially being a padawan at the time.

  • @RandolphMaxwell-fr5kw
    @RandolphMaxwell-fr5kw23 күн бұрын

    Obi-Wan was always savage, even when he was a young boy. As noted by Qui-Gon in the Jedi Apprentice novels, Obi-Wan would surpass him in technique far before he would finish his own training with the lightsaber. Obi-Wan is a savant in combat. Every illegal maneuver he ever performed was out of desperation, not intention. To negate Maul's ruthlessness, Obi-Wan sliced his saber in half, to limit Maul's edge in battle. He then had to perform that acrobatic feat and win the duel by bisecting Maul out of necessity, because he knew that Maul would not give in. Also, Obi-Wan is extremely intuitive and quick, which most people don't point out. He was always going to perform that maneuver successfully. Had Obi-Wan fought Maul by himself from the beginning, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan would have trained Anakin together, not allowing him to turn to the dark side. Also, a Jedi of any level will not be reprimanded or punished for using a maneuver against a Sith. Those rules are really only meant for equally skilled Jedi against Jedi sparring to avoid accidental death. Good video though.

  • @pingamalinga
    @pingamalingaАй бұрын

    Its highly fascinating content. One has to wonder if Obi-Wan is responsible for Vader's agony in more than one aspect.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533Ай бұрын

    Kenobi's guilty pleasure is "breaking" the Jed Code.. Cuz apparently its only "breaking " if the enemy is sufficiently dangerous OR you get caught. REMEMBER the WHOLE Order basically used this to dismiss Dooku's execution with a Force handwave... Besides these "forbidden" specialties his "hello there" apparently is his Dun Mok attack... seemed to work on Grevious. Looked like in Ep 1 was ALSO dismissed like Anakins seeing as Young Obi was in heat of the moment an cutting him in half WAS the only real move an it was even displayed as instinctive over deliberately. Its even Maul's fault.. Even Sideous said so there.. in Mauls arrogance he lost half his body.. So apparently if its desperate enough, serious enough, or convenient enough for the Jedi/Force The Order outright ignores, or foregoes, or forgives moves like theses even accepting they WILL happen intended or not even. If it suited them

  • @baldrian22
    @baldrian22Ай бұрын

    if i remember correctly from a legend novel, obi wan also somewhat befriended one of the tribes. there was one setler trying to blame the tribe in question multiple times (think it was the tribe aniken killed a lot of or one closely related to it, but been maybe 10 years since read the book in question and i cant remember the name) obi wan managed to prove the tuskens was not behind it. but i might remember things wrong.

  • @Trotgirlsummer

    @Trotgirlsummer

    Ай бұрын

    The book is “Kenobi” I just finished rereading it yesterday. Great book!

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85Ай бұрын

    Obi-Wan did right things during fights. He had to do this,it was battle to survive. To win. It's great he was so good with lightsaber. He used Mou Kei as mercy on Anakin. It's great how he handled Tusken Raiders. Real Jedi moves. May the Force be with you too always😊

  • @adiabeticjedi3278
    @adiabeticjedi3278Ай бұрын

    Its simple, and one of the same reasons he was alive for so long(and remember he let Vader win). Win... or dont, there is no mercy. All is fair in love, and war. Do unto others, as they do unto you. Etc.

  • @devo1977s
    @devo1977sАй бұрын

    Obi-Wan would have been an absolute Savage as a Sith

  • @aragami_7616
    @aragami_761610 күн бұрын

    I think another important thing to talk about here is how he killed maul for good, because even there he is depicted going for a strike across the lower abdomen, wich kills Maul relatively slowly, with them even having time to exchange some words. But it also seems relatively painless, and he took great care to not cuz him in half as well as immediately catching him, so he wouldnt just collapse to the floor

  • @whysoserious2k3
    @whysoserious2k3Ай бұрын

    I believe that when you are fighting for your life you're not really worrying about the code you're more focused on not getting killed and preserving their own life.

  • @highinquisitor0083
    @highinquisitor0083Ай бұрын

    Obi-Wan in a duel did what he said he would. "What I must."

  • @dorianjames9021
    @dorianjames9021Ай бұрын

    Survival is a strong motivator

  • @chrizmerk756
    @chrizmerk7569 күн бұрын

    Maul with robot legs: You should've aimed for the head (attacks Obi-Wan) Thanos: This mf spittin

  • @Muddragon104
    @Muddragon104Ай бұрын

    I've never noticed that he was that ruthless in combat. An it dose go a long way in understanding why using such tactics in battle was forbidden.

  • @robinshelton2132
    @robinshelton213228 күн бұрын

    He will do what he must

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors23 күн бұрын

    It’s complicated, it seems like he only ever performed those tactics at first was in fact out of anger but later only acted so brutally out of desperation. The act he performed against the Tusken Raiders and his more swift takedown of Maul in Rebels shows he gained nearly full control over himself.

  • @kkamiya9038
    @kkamiya903815 күн бұрын

    Kenobi's most vicious isn't in his lightsaber skills, but in his trolling.

  • @lachlanparker570
    @lachlanparker570Ай бұрын

    Soresu is theoretically the perfect lightsaber form through which to use any (if not all) of such forbidden attacks. After all, with a near exclusive use of blocks and parries, the implementation of ___ can perfectly replace form 3's inherent occasional counters without contracting the tactics already implemented by its practitioners.

  • @SillyCreations
    @SillyCreations24 күн бұрын

    I wish they would have gone more into this type stuff on his show....

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782Ай бұрын

    Cool.

  • @Klowd9888
    @Klowd9888Ай бұрын

    For those who read the Padawan Stories about Obi, yall know Obi almost failed as a Padawan when younger and Qui Qon took him up round the age of 14 i think. Been a minute. Fun Fact that jump in Epi.1 was a power called Force Valor which speeds up the user.

  • @kadbenson7540
    @kadbenson7540Ай бұрын

    Sooooo best way to defeat a sand person, pants them, got it.

  • @dariusmcdonald5820
    @dariusmcdonald5820Ай бұрын

    Did you ever notice that in the Yoda/ sidious fight, the very first lightsaber strike Yoda launches when he jumps, sidious attempts the exact same dismemberment move Obi-Wan used on Anakin. But Yoda's too small. 😆

  • @kristoffergrimblomquist3198
    @kristoffergrimblomquist31986 күн бұрын

    Obi-wan was under master Qui-Gon Jinn who had Count Dooku as master. Dooku and Qui-Gon Jinn was masters and studied the dark side and the way of the siths. so good reason for Obi-wan also to do it.

  • @eaphantom9214
    @eaphantom9214Ай бұрын

    Like this comment IF ; Like me, you think Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 actor Ewan Mcgregor was an EXELLENT choice for Obi Wan (Young) that George Lucas made. 😊

  • @TheRadradrobot
    @TheRadradrobot28 күн бұрын

    Seems like a great character for Mortal Combat, but then I fear he would be stained by it as well. His growth to the light side in the end would not be viewed in that glimpse? Maybe if he is finished we see him do what old man Obi-wan does with Vader. He just vanishes in his cloak? Would be neat to see.

  • @wali6707
    @wali67073 күн бұрын

    Darth Maul: Shiak Qui-Gon Obi-Wan: Halving

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996Ай бұрын

    On the one hand, I get the requirement to focus on peace, mercy, and when truly necessary, a quick end, but it almost feels like every Jedi must have a few moments-glimpse into the future, or such heightened reflexes, and awareness, to always be able to analyze, plan, and execute such moves? In other verses, we'd hear things like "if you draw your weapon, you had best be ready to use it for its intended purpose", and "if you ever try to half-ass in a duel, and don't take every opportunity you have to survive, I'll kill you myself", so it seems weird for thecJedi to be SO worried, and have such almost ritualistic tenets about how to kill with a lightsaber. As a pointless aside, it's always nice to see art, and scenes, of the more Sir Alec Guiness-style Obi-Wan. So much of his content now was the Ewan McGregor motif, and as the nostalgia nut I am, it's still nice to see Kenobi as he was first introduced to me, all the way back in the 80s. 😊

  • @ryanbourke6358
    @ryanbourke63586 күн бұрын

    Can't believe that guy kept turning off other's lightsabers in combat

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlasterАй бұрын

    My head canon is that Kenobi was guided by the Force to use all those forbidden moves. Even if Kenobi was giving into rage, as Qui-Gon’s apprentice and a devout Jedi, Kenobi was trained to more easily fall into the Force and become a true agent of its will.

  • @RMVM1999
    @RMVM1999Ай бұрын

    when someone knows your style and can counter easly you have to switch it up and some times you have to get a little dirty

  • @Salt_Master_Queue
    @Salt_Master_QueueАй бұрын

    2:45 No! Sith Lords are his specialty.

  • @famsyrk8839
    @famsyrk8839Ай бұрын

    The man was a G. Plain and simple.

  • @wadepeterson416
    @wadepeterson416Ай бұрын

    It was the will of the force for him to use the move on Vader .. Kenobi was known as the negotiator more than anything during the war ..

  • @jayjeffery882
    @jayjeffery882Ай бұрын

    🐐 Kenobi

  • @JohnSaley
    @JohnSaleyАй бұрын

    Nice video! Out of curiosity. I wonder how many Jedi broke the code, due to their desperation in dueling a Sith.

  • @Meravokas
    @MeravokasАй бұрын

    These were moves, rules and techniques taught for peace keeping, against the value of life of others over their own. A jedi saving one person via their own death over killing to save that one person was an accepted mentality for the greater order at that time. However, when the goal is much larger, much broader, and for your own survival. These "Point" moves should be tossed aside as they only lowers the odds of their survival. In moments of great strife or desperation they are in fact, acceptably moved away from. I also believe that unless Obi-Wan told the council HOW he killed Maul in detail, that they'd know the manner in which he'd done it in the first place.

  • @dedprice3142
    @dedprice3142Ай бұрын

    obiwan against maul and his brother: "the council will want me to fight maul fairly... they said nothing about your brother though." *shatters his leg in the most brutal kick i ever saw*

  • @AdamJohnson-bg7ly
    @AdamJohnson-bg7ly25 күн бұрын

    Maybe he take the Mongolian approach to honor, “the only honor is in victory”

  • @CrazyGamer19851
    @CrazyGamer19851Ай бұрын

    Obiwan stop being a sore winner.😂

  • @WhoDatNaton
    @WhoDatNatonАй бұрын

    "I will do what I must"

  • @theofmino6180
    @theofmino6180Ай бұрын

    He did learn over the years, his last duel with Maul on tattooine was a quick slash at the chest, not severing anything but ending Mail's life on peace

  • @TheDarthneko
    @TheDarthnekoАй бұрын

    Obi-Wan is the king of the rope-a-dope.

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