Palpatine be like: A Suprise to be sure but a welcomed one

@DeathMessenger1988

Ай бұрын

I hate people that make up the grand conspiracy theory that Palpatine somehow orchestrated Padmé's death by sending the Tusken Raiders somehow. It's far better that it was a mundane tragedy caused in huge part by the Republic and Jedi's own incompetence and apathy towards the Outer Rim. It makes the story far more complex to think about; yes, Palpatine is evil and his Empire is monstrous, but it happened solely because what came before was just as rotten to the core.

Obi-Wan: "Senator, did Anakin slaughter an entire village of sandpeople?" Padme: "Uhh... no. He was just uhhh... gathering a bouquet of pretty sunflowers for me." 🙂🌻

@lordofcrows

Ай бұрын

Robot chicken reference Man of culture confirmed

@Goldstandard_1

Ай бұрын

"On Tatooine?"

@lordofcrows

Ай бұрын

,,It was in an oasis. Just shows how little you really care about the systems of the Outer Rim"

@Goldstandard_1

Ай бұрын

@lordofcrows "sounds like something a separatist would say"

@emilyrobinson6080

Ай бұрын

“Ah, very good then-waaaaaaaaait a minute. Sunflowers. On Tattooine. At this time of the local year, growing in the desert, yet alone in enough quantities to gather a bouquet?!” “Yes” “…may I see them?” “…no”

Anakin told Padme and Palpatine, huh… Hypothesis: If one commits genocide, one can tell people from Naboo whose names start with ‘P’ and they will still accept you.

@WilliamAGould

Ай бұрын

This if further complicated that the raiders had kidnapped Anakin's mother a month before she finally died. From what was stated at the start of episode 2, Anakin likely started having nightmares about his mother immediately after she was kidnapped. Nightmares that Obiwan kept telling Anakin to ignore. Anakin's path of darkness was started by Obiwan's arrogant dismissal of Anakin's needs. If Obiwan had listened to Anakin, they would have rescued Anakin's mother and Anakin would likely never become Vader. One could make a argument that Anakin's fall was not so much a fall, but being pushed a few times by Obiwan, without Obiwan realizing was he was doing. First, ignoring Anakin's nightmares. Then, allowing the council to send him off, while Anakin was left with Padme, whom seduced Anakin. This kept on, to the point the Jedi Council had Obiwan privately order Anakin to spy on Palpatine.

@BargerClan

Ай бұрын

Palpatine was the only father figure that Anakin viewed even though he’s an evil space Wizard but sadly Obi-Wan Kenobi will not become a father figure until Luke

@jasonvause8514

Ай бұрын

I wonder how many times he said Anakin in this

@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw

Ай бұрын

@@WilliamAGould It didn't much look like she seduced him, to be real she told him to back off multiple times... although maybe one could argue that her asking the Jedi for help was part of a planned seduction or at least a hope that things would blossom between them romantically. But you have a point about Obi-Wan, it definitely felt like he knew that he wasn't the mentor that Anakin needed. Kind of makes me wonder why Qui-Gon was so thoughtful(like putting yourself in someone else's shoes) compared to other Jedi.

@mariusconstantin6057

Ай бұрын

​@@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEwDooku trained him. And than he made his own decisions, but by that point Qui was already shaped into the perfect Jedi by Dooku

Palps: "I mean, this is good. I just didn't think he had it in him!"

So Vader created Darth Krayt in an indirect manner.

@jarmoliebrand2005

Ай бұрын

His kind and understanding demeanour is such a far cry from being the one Sith Lord in the rule of one.

@mikael557

Ай бұрын

And Pleagus + Sidious made Anakin right? The dark side is wierd

@jakealter5504

Ай бұрын

@@mikael557palpatine also had a hand in creating Krayt

@MasterJade

Ай бұрын

​@@mikael557 No. The Force created Anakin in Legends, not Palaptine and Plagueis. They tried to create a life. The Force didn't like it at all, and it itself created Anakin against the sith. The only thing we got about "Palaptine made Anakin" is just a vision from Vader 2017 comics which is not canon to SWEU, not even important to new canon, just a vision.

@smokingcloud7792

Ай бұрын

wait how

There was the main problem. As Anakin often thought, and I believe said once in the novelization of the Clone Wars movie, the Jedi would never understand him. They never knew what it was like to love a mother or a wife. And as Djinn Altis later said in another Clone Wars novel, the Jedi were trying to get Anakin to control his emotions by effectively strapping a straight jacket to them, rather than learning to channel them. The Jedi code might work for those who grew up in the Jedi Temple, because they were Jedi only. Anakin grew up outside the Temple before joining. He wasn't only a Jedi. He was an individual and a Jedi. He refused to give up his emotions and individuality. A'Sharad understood that, as did Palpatine, since they both grew up as individuals before joining their respective orders. It was only in Labyrinth of Evil and ROTS, back in 2005 before the Clone Wars cartoon and Ahsoka came out, that Obi-Wan began to understand that despite all their training, Anakin still had his feelings and was more than willing to feel and act on them. After seeing the recordings of Anakin attacking the Temple, Obi-Wan said Anakin should never have been brought to the Jedi temple. And he was right. Anakin could never be the kind of Jedi Obi-Wan, Mace, Yoda, and all the others were. I think Anakin would have fit in more with the Jedi of Nomi Sunrider's time. Anakin represented the Jedi of a long distant past. As I recall in the Life and Times of Obi-Wan Kenobi, it wasn't until the events of ROTJ, mainly when Anakin reemerged and saved Luke from Palpatine that Obi-Wan understood what Qui-Gon was trying to tell him. Yes, Anakin slaughtered the Tuskens and opened himself to the dark side. Yes, he turned to the dark side and became Darth Vader. But deep down inside, there was still the good man that Anakin was. Just as Padmé believed. That is what Qui-Gon was trying to tell Obi-Wan - Anakin needed comfort and understanding, not harsh judgment. Obi-Wan said that only Siths deal in absolutes. Unfortunately, the same could be said about the Jedi. You either followed the Code, or you're expelled from the Order. Anakin more or less saw that, and realized that he would find no healing from the Jedi. Only Padmé and Palpatine saw his heart. Understood his heart. One did what she could to heal and comfort his wounded heart and soul. The other manipulated them to his own ends.

@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw

Ай бұрын

You know what I just realized while reading your comment, people talk about autism and neurodivergency... I don't know if I believe in autism existing or not or if it's different from neurodivergence... but I definitely believe in neurodivergence. And I think I'm neurodivergent because I don't think like most people seem to. But, this Anakin reminds me of a common personality that I've seen so much! So I'm not convinced that he is like me at all, whatever the case, he seems neurotypical. Now whether that's true or not, I can't say, and maybe neurotypical is just a myth and not something real. But either way, the way I see it, neurotypicality seems to be something encouraged, both in our world and in the Star Wars galaxy. Not necessarily for righteous reasons is it encouraged, far from it, but often appearing to be righteous while feeling corrupt by those knowing much. Now the way I see it, I think Anakin is neurodivergent within the culture that he's found himself to be in. He doesn't think like others around him, more like 'some Jedi from the past' as you mention here. So he really did lack in friends and that's why despite him finding a lot of success on his missions, he flopped hard when it came to his personal life. We need to talk to our friends and bounce ideas off each other... got to stop isolating ourselves. Getting shallow validation isn't enough to improve our personalities. I suppose it's clear to see that Obi-Wan was able to mature much more than Anakin did because he thought much more like a typical Jedi(of that time period anyway) would. He was essentially neurotypical and that was an advantage which he eventually capitalized on when Anakin dared to act like he knew what he was doing as a level 3 or so Dark Side User versus whatever level Obi-Wan was as the opposing Light Side User(10 or 12 maybe?).

Funny. That the very man that is mentoring you about the death of your mother, and the slaughter that you're guilty of, is guilty of murdering his own family.

Honestly one of the best scenes in AoTC and truly showed how he could become Darth Vader all the more easily.

The conversation between Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi was amazing. Thank you for this information!

Though I love Anakin’s character, a flaw I have with him is that, quite a lot of times, Shmi is kind of glossed over. Of course, he didn’t want to lose Padme like he did Shmi (which, eventually of course, he did). I mean, it’s clear the topic of, let alone the individual that is Shmi Skywalker wasn’t ever too high on the Jedi’s to do list. We get great character development for Anakin in the clone wars series but Shmi only appears once in a vision and I don’t recall her being mentioned beyond that. In the early stages of the Clone Wars, the grief over her death must’ve been fresh, but it doesn’t really often appear that way to me.

@OGJedi2021

Ай бұрын

lol I saw what you snuck in there

@DarthKrellon

Ай бұрын

The attachments rule is why she wasn't high on the to do list.

@elviadarkgrape2766

Ай бұрын

Darth Plaqueis telepaticaly banged shmi lmao. Anakis Vader is a Muun hahaha 🤣

One of the most darkest sences in star wars history

What's more peculiar is A'Sharad Hett fell even FURTHER than Anakin Skywalker did, strangely enough. Read the 'Star Wars: Legacy' series by Dark Horse Comics.

This is an excellent video that now makes me think what if Anakin was A'Shared's padawan. Truly makes me reconsider the whole Qui-Gon aspect and brings more personal empathy when his mother and trauma Tatooine was involved.

Loving the recent vids this channel has been putting out, maintaining my interest in these great characters and star wars as a whole, the force is strong with this one ❤️

Plot Twist: Yoda didn't confront Anakin because he also committed genocide in his time.

To be honest I am not so sure if Anakin would be banished from the order. People comment on that without realizing that once council decided Anakin would be train, they already had certain responsibility for him. As a Jedi Knight he was already very powerful, so banishing invidual like this from the order and letting him loose knowing he has genocidal tendencies? I like to believe even dogmatic Old Republic Jedi were not THAT stupid.

Biggest wasted opportunity in Ep 2 was Palpatine not going with Anakin to find his mother. Anakin had the visions she was in danger, the jedi failed to act and waited too long. Palpatine should've stepped in to be the one to help him (maybe with the ulterior motive of killing him, then changes his mind after he turns to the darkside). Instead of telling Padmae what he did (and her accepting it, made 0 sense) he should've confessed to Palpatine ready to face his punishment, and Palpatine should've been the caring father that told him it was going to be alright and covered up the crime for him. Would've cemented their relationship and shown Anakin (after he reveals himself as Sidious in Ep3) how the jedi are failures that refuse to act while the Sith get things done.

palpatine was very happy though for sure

One of Anakin's coolest moments.

Thank you once again for your videos, which are yet another beautiful and touching story of the sadness.😢😢

Anakin was right. Those raiders would've continued killing more innocent people.

@FreeJalen

Ай бұрын

Not more than anakin

@B3an01

Ай бұрын

@@FreeJalentechnically more than anakin ever would assuming tattooine doesnt blow up in the next 1000 years they would technically keep killing until the total eventually reaches the trillions way more than anakin has ever killed in his entire life

@FreeJalen

Ай бұрын

@@B3an01 I mean Anakin has probably order the death of millions. They used the Death Star to obliterate planets he also killled thousands with his sabre as well

@B3an01

Ай бұрын

@@FreeJalen yea and given enough time the tuscans kill count could reach the trillions

@jasonberry1307

28 күн бұрын

@@B3an01what are you talking about? Are you stupid? They grabbed stragglers and a few people here and there from hiking parties when they had the opportunity. Anakin wiped out planets, and entire civilizations. How do you get that the Tuskin Raiders would have killed Trillions? For one they only lived on Tattooine and two Anakin didn’t wipe them out because 30 years later or how ever long it was in a New Hope they still existed and they hadn’t killed very many people at all. Are you on crack?

I could also see Plo Koon aiding Anakin in his emotions if he told Obi-wan about his past miss deeds and ending up banished from the temple. Plo Koon would step in and invite him to train at his temple on his home world. That would be interesting.

Hett was sadly an ironic echo of his own teachings as a Jedi and he was defeated by the most unlikely Jedi who followed through the pure Jedi Teachings.

This youtuber’s dedication to starwars, marvel, and Jurassic park/world is literally PERFECT. I’ve been a fan of yours ever since the beginning and I do love your Avengers action figures. May the force be with you my old friend.

Love this video my friend! I never knew this!

I find it interesting that Anakin would tell a Tuskin Raider (that turned out to be a human).

@Someone-lg6di

Ай бұрын

Anger

Anakin consistently lacked trust in Obi-Wan, especially regarding personal matters. However, considering Obi-Wan's impulsive nature as seen in his own youth and in various canonical stories, it's likely he would have understood Anakin's actions. If Anakin had confided in Obi-Wan, I doubt he would have disclosed it to the Council; Obi-Wan's character is more flexible and empathetic than commonly perceived. He would likely have drawn on his experiences with Qui-Gon to guide Anakin through his emotions and provide him with peace.

What is it? “Pain. Suffering. Death I feel…Something terrible has happened. Young Skywalker is in pain, terrible pain.”

The only reason anakin ever became so disillusioned by thr order and feel to the dark side was because they told him that his emotions were a sin. That his connections were a crutch and a weakness. Qui Gonn was the only jedi in the council who understood the ways of old that didn't ostracize people based on their emotions. The light can never exist without the dark. The path of the grey jedi is the only path than can truly show why the light is the path to follow.

it was the battle of Jabim that laid foundation of Darth Vader and this event as well

Anakin did nothing wrong. The Tuskens started it , Anakin merely finished it.

@JW-yk1of

Ай бұрын

Killing a bunch of people for being the same race/species as the person or people who wronged you....is evil.

@Blackman1000ify

Ай бұрын

Sounds like another conflict involving desert dwellers being massacred.

@RobertBaur-pp9kj

Ай бұрын

​@@JW-yk1of he killed those responsible for his mother's death

@BlackXIV

Ай бұрын

@@JW-yk1of Just that Sandpeople are nothing but a bunch of terrorists killing everyone they see or torture them to death and everyone on that ball of Sand knows it... the only reason they are not extinct is because the deserts are big and they kill everyone who tries. (yes I know there are new series who claim the poor boys where just missunderstodd.... but thats just disney trying to redcon history and did not fit to anything we ever see or hear about the sandpoeple in the movies.)

@michakoniecpolski5677

Ай бұрын

​@@JW-yk1of anakin did nothing wrong

Palpetine, the father figure who cared about him and Anakins best interests... 😏

@phantom_mserafi

Ай бұрын

😮😮😮

@DanThaWolf

Ай бұрын

😂

Palpatine: He got dat DAWG in em! Smell the shirt, Blue! Get the scent! Damn, that Blue’s a good dog!🐶

I don’t understand, how was kenobi able to hear Qui Gon if he didn’t have the training yet to contact people from the other side of the force? Even though the Kenobi series despite how many times he had tried to communicate with Qui Gon, he was not able to.

@toastedjawa3620

Ай бұрын

Different timelines, most if not all of this video is Legends, the Kenobi show is Canon

Seriously, what is that dark intro music called Stupendous Wave?! I absolutely love it!

@jessepraimdass2506

15 күн бұрын

Dark Choir Music by Mattia Cupelli

The Jedi are to blame. They are the one's who forbid normal attachments and excuse if not condone slavery and not rescuing his mother in the first place

Anakin being comforted by the one who'd become Darth Krayt is a certain level of irony/foreshadowing of Anakin's own fall. I do dosagree though Het wouldn't of been the next best teacher for Anakin as a act of compassion doesn't eliminate the fact Anakin had developed prejudices against the Tuskans as a people, I feel he'd of made for a good confidant though.

You can actually hear Qui Gon say "Anakin! Anakin!" during the movie.

Palpatine: “No way, really!? This is going to be easier than I thought… I mean they killed your mother it was only natural…”

This is extremely powerful.Very touching moment. Obi-Wan didn't understand Anakin. Not yet anyway. Tuskan Jedi is the only one who completely understood. Qui-Gon is completely right. I don't think anyone else knew. May the Force be with you too😊

What is the song at the very end of the video. Also I know know any of that and I thought it was awesome. Thanks for making this video, and all the other ones 👍

Ive always felt that Palpatine was behind Anikans mother being kidnapped, tortured and killed

I feel for Anakin The Jedi did him very dirty I can see his perspective

thanks!

Could you possibly talk about Waru?

Anakin’s 1st taste of The Darkside.

We need more videos about ashod and anakin they would be a understanding master and padawan duo.

I commend you for using legends comic art. Shoutout the superior comic book artist Jan Duursema, who literally shats on at least 80% of the now canon Star Wars comic artists I’ve unfortunately seen the past decade.

@chancebrown106

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@chancebrown106

Ай бұрын

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I remember seeing Attack of the Clones in the theater. People actually cheered when Anakin killed them. This was shortly after 9-11.

Now I want a “What if…” of these two from three different points: The Dark Side, The Light Side, and The Balance. I think it would be quite interesting.

"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one"

Ironically A'Sharad Hett also became a Sith in legends 300 years later as Darth Krayt.

I think the Larrs did learn about it either over hearing or by rumors then put two and two together themselves but where thinking Padam

Haven't been this early in forever, but also hey free Star Wars Lore.

Disney and Dave filoni removed all the darkness that star wars use to have

@jtrapp651

Ай бұрын

bro what they literally showed vader snapping a childs neck in the obi wan show

I’ve been wondering for a while what those Tusken goofballs looked like. 😮

@dragondude9637

Ай бұрын

They don't look human. That one was a human who was adopted by them.

@Mechadondada

Ай бұрын

@@dragondude9637 I guess they’d probably look more like a bantha’s dried up nutsack.

In my head I heard”PERSONALLY, that sounds like simple mathematics. But that’s just me!”

"You should not judge if you failed to understand"... huh...

I didn’t even know there was a Tusken Jedi.

Most of your video titles I can answer with just 5 words lmao.

Palpatine: Anakin killed an entire tribe of tuskins? Wow and i didnt even need to corrupt him to kill innocents, that was fast

Palpatine: "Damn, the plan is going even smoother than I thought it would."

Obi-Wan was such a dick to Anakin. Qui-Gon literally called Obi out on his shit so much more than anyone ever seemed to have.

Hett learning makes sense being a Tuskan Raider

Palpatine thought that Anakin was close to finding the #TDBank💳 card... 🌎💘💰

It's insane when you think of it, the choosen one created the choosen one of the dark side Darth krayt lol

The fact that he didn’t tell the council…. How often are things like this happening within the Jedi

After Yaddle's death, did the jedi council ever find out what might have happened to her? Did she just disappear without a trace in their perceptive? I've been looking through your backlog, but haven't found the answer yet.

@toastedjawa3620

Ай бұрын

I mean considering how long it took them to find Sifo-Dyas, I seriously doubt it.

@darkglobe406

5 күн бұрын

well they are not exactly the republics greatest detectives ... the plot makes them look borderline autistic . especially anakin , cosidering sidious was throwing hints at him for years and he still could not puzzle it together that palps is a sith lord ?! ... dooku straight out told obi-wan in AoTC that the senate is being controlled by a sith lord and jedi felt the dark side is surrounding the chancellor i mean come on ... how hard can it be to identify him at that point ?

quigon really tried stopping anakin from falling but failed

I have always thought that Anakin had to become Vader or he could not be the chosen one...Why ? Because to balance the force he had to do both...Yin Yang

@toastedjawa3620

Ай бұрын

Stated in both canons I'm pretty sure that that's not how that works. The dark isn't just another side, it's a corruption and a perversion of the Will of the Force, which is part of the reason it also corrupts individuals who tap it, be it mentally like Anakin between Operation Knightfall and his mission to Mustafar, or physically like it did to Sidious.

heck if a sith like palptine was shocked himself aobut the tusken issue mae his job a bit more easy for him to help anaken to hone in that temper of his a bit more.

I've heard rumors that Palps arranged for the tuskins to kidnap shmi

Does Charlie Hopkinson know about this? 😂

Good on the pseudo tusken for not betraying Anakin to the council, but he is a fool for not talking to Anakin's master

Personally I think that after his death Skywalker would have confided in his son and throughout there training I think that Ani would have hinted to Ashoka that whilst he was a young jedi he did something unforgivable in the eyes of the order but never really went into detail as to what it was or way but I have a feeling that due to Ashoka knowing her master so well she could have eventually connected the dots but been to afraid of the backlash from either anikan being expelled from the order or him leaving her if she were to tell anyone what she thought so she kept it to herself

The very idea that the Jedi tollerated slavery shows them in the very worst light. They also reject personal attachements - the very thing worth fighting for. The more I learn of the Jedi, the more I dislike them. What a disappointment.

So, in part, I'm just happy for another Legends reference, and a Legacy one, as I really liked Legacy, but for that other person to be Darth Krayt, that's odd, but cool. Sadly, he wouldn't stay in that same mindset, either, and then go stalking Skywalker's descendants 120 years later. I miss Legacy.

Anakin and asharad are so similar

Dammmmmmmmmn Palpy's skin looking old AF. Does holding all that hate in hurt?!?! I know my eyes feel old just looking at you Sithari...🤣🤣🤣

Sandman killing the Sand People was a great scene. A nice bit 9f foreshadowing of what he'd become.

Man. Anakin just doesn’t like sand.

Yoda knew,no way he didn't com on. Mace knew somethinggg happened with Skywalker

Shouldve had more faith in Obi Wan. He didnt snitch about his love to Padame

@toastedjawa3620

Ай бұрын

Having a secret wife and going on a brutal killing spree (that involved *children*) are two very different things.

@darkglobe406

5 күн бұрын

@@toastedjawa3620 yeah plus obi-wan had his own affair which anakin knew about as well .

Qui Gon was not saying it was right and would have made that clear to anikan but he would have also understood that anikan was different than the other jedi he grew up close to his mom and needed support first than punishment

If anyone would understand what Anakin did and tried to help him it would have been Quinlan Vos given his struggle with the dark and the light

Where it downhill

I wonder what Krayt thought about Vader🤔🤔🤔

(Not Why You Think) It was exactly what I thought 🤣🤣🤣

There were maybe 30 Tuskens in that camp. It hardly amounts to genocide.

So video request. Can mother talzin truely die?

I have a ? Why didn't vador learn sith force lightning

Make sense the conversation we never saw cause Palpatine said about Duko he colut your arm u wanted revenge rember the sand plp?

Why did this actually make me sad??

@Awesomeness4627

16 күн бұрын

It's all tragic.

I honestly don't think Obi-Wan would have turned him in. He would have probably confided in someone outside the order to help some kind of trauma hospital or outsource healers but I think Obi-Wan love and dedication to anakin and promise to qui gon Jin to train him he would do everything to help him

Poor Obi-Wan. He was always low key blamed for everything. Also, how could Padme go on to marry a guy who told her that he killed a bunch of people including younglings? That never sat right with me.

But palpatine did have a point Mace windu and the Jedi never did care about anyone even though they said they did it proves that they were very dogmatic that's why Luke never allowed his new Jedi order to go that way he knew that that's what led to their downfall Obi-Wan's dogmatic views definitely blind him he should have just been more like Qui-Gon at least Qui-Gon jinn understood Obi-Wan didn't do and that's why in some ways he failed

WHAT

as someone who has struggled greatly with my own anger issues I have pity on Anakin because I too know what blind hate and rage is

@fulcrum3601

Ай бұрын

Saving your people will not bring you peace... only make the burden you carry... worse

So many mistakes were made leading up to Anakin's transition to the dark ...

Still there is a missing link on the chains of events. How is it possible that Palpatine and Anakin stayed in contact during Anakin's Jedi training and why? Why the masters allowed him to contact an outsider?

@darkglobe406

5 күн бұрын

anakin was 19 by the time of AoTC and probably more independent , he was no longer a kid . he gets his first solo mission with padme and obi-wan was more like a brother to him while anakin needed a father figure palpatine slowly took that role in anakins life , anakin was even further more independend during the clone wars - at that point he was already a military general and a jedi knight with padawan of his own . so short of giving reports to the council and mission asignments i doubt the council cared much about what he is doing in his free time ... which was a mistake of course ... they had all the hints they needed to figure out that palps is a sith lord yet they stayed oblivious untill it was already too late .

@enchainedprometheus

4 күн бұрын

@@darkglobe406 Well this is a good explanation but all the Attack of the Clones suggested that Palpatine and Anakin were in contact. Which is ridiculous/nonsense. Palpatine have suggested the Jedi Masters to take Senator Amidala into their defense, even suggested Obi-Wan himself. How he know, that Obi-Wan and Anakin just arrived back from their latest mission. He is an outsider, he shouldn't know about Jedi business. Induvidual Jedis report to the council, and the council report to the chancelor if it is a mission that concern of the chancellors office. (Bytheway it is just a fantasy movie with so much plothole... it needless to overthink 😁)