Sayin conor didn’t look any better against Floyd then Logan did is strange, considering Conor landed 111 shots while Logan landed 21 😂

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

(Considering Conor is a real fighter an Logan is a KZreadr, and mayweather managed to hit Conor way more than logan)

@gatolf2

9 ай бұрын

@@Kiercho Conor is the type to sleep his opponents off of one good read. Remember that mayweather wanted to go out with that perfect 50-0 record. If you have a record like that and your going in with a striker of Conor’s caliber, you’re going to take it more seriously then an exhibition with a youtuber. This is not me saying that conor is at Floyds level in a boxing match. It’s me saying that conor is at the very least dangerous enough for Floyd to not play around and lose that perfect record. Especially losing his perfect record to an mma fighter.

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

@@gatolf2 100% exactly. Seeing even the difference in Floyd just shows this, Floyd knew for a fact he never had any problems with Logan a completely inexperienced boxer, Conor has left shot power, and is a huge red panty night fight, he is always going to take that more seriously. He can be lazy with Logan and aaron chalmers

@joshuaegnar5812

9 ай бұрын

Nope, Floyd led Connor to a trap. One of the most clever traps in boxing is to Gass out his opponent just like what Ali did to foreman. He let Connor threw a lot of punches. If Connor had power, Floyd would have never put himself in the corner. Once Connor got tired, Floyd slowly dismantled him.

@ernestjohnson1275

9 ай бұрын

He landed was because Mayweather let him 🤣

jake paul saying hes gonna do some WWE move on nate diaz was the funniest thing from the press conferences

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Legit 😂

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

@@Dante_Midoriya haha 100%

like saying why boxers cant win in BJJ

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

Except mma fighters DO strike and boxers DONT roll 🙂…

@narutolikestoes9028

9 ай бұрын

Nah way more diff, mma guys have boxing in thier arsenal lol

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

@@narutolikestoes9028 exactly!

@remyhavoc4463

9 ай бұрын

well MMA fighters can win Wrestling matches there have been High level Grapplers who dominated in MMA but there haven't been any high level boxers who dominated MMA (mostly because of money but you get the point)

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

@@remyhavoc4463 yeah exactly

I mean, MMA was set up as an arena for all styles to fight each other. Its literally the most open rule set, boxers can enter and box if they like without restraint. I don't get why MMA fighters should feel burdened to prove themselves in a boxing ring, it makes logical sense that its should be the other way round (from a martial arts perspective). From a money perspective the sure, boxing it is (and even so, only if you're at the top)

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@JickFincter

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I totally agree as well but as he said they get a good paycheck for boxing just once

@jeremiahsymonette4781

8 ай бұрын

Because they look down on boxers and think its easy. Meanwhile because of all the things you cant do in a boxing ring, they dont realize boxing takes more discipline. Its actually the harder sport.

@kingartifex

8 ай бұрын

@@jeremiahsymonette4781 boxing is harder, and more damaging to the body over time. CTE, broken noses, blindness, cauliflower ear. That can happen in MMA too of course but to a much lesser degree because there is grappling and transitioning mixed in. Pure boxing (MMA fighters usually train boxing as well) may be more "hardcore" as a sport, but its a less smart as a way of fighting. In a true no holds barred fight you can punch, kick, grab, slam etc. why stay put eating punches to your head when you can just take the other guy down and nullify all his best arsenal?

@swervoogoat892

24 күн бұрын

Buh it doesn’t make any sense to argue that because why go to a martial art the is strictly one u can’t punch in wrestling or bjj you can’t slam in mauy Thai boxing is not the only martial art that takes away what they’re used why do boxing if you know it’s boxing

Cause they are almost all grapplers/wrestlers who learned just a bit of standup

It's just the good old home field advantage. Boxing has an entirely different ruleset, so your mind and body need not be ready for somethings, but for others.

Not one MMA fighter has taken a boxing match in their prime.

@omegacroc2928

8 ай бұрын

Conor Mcgregor?

@Eziekiel_2_2_2

8 ай бұрын

@@omegacroc2928in his very peak at that.

@kazikhalid6197

8 ай бұрын

And he fought the best at his weight class. Not some youtuber

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

francis?

@fungunsun1

8 ай бұрын

@@omegacroc2928 well he did the best too

I love the assassins creed music in the background!!!!

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Goat soundtrack mate!

Is this man using AC2 Soundtrack in the background? I love you.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Hahaha YESSS You know brother!

Why wouldnt an MMA fighter take a boxing match for more money then they will likely in their whole UFC career? As somebody who trained in both boxing and MMA what i can say is this. Firstly the gloves actually make a difference. Punches that would normally land dont because your opponents large gloves block punches that mma gloves wouldnt. Then the stance makes all the difference in the world. Youre more squared in mma to be able to check kicks as well as spawl for a takedown and land fast kicks. This leaves you open for a plethura of punches when you are soley using your fists. Likewise a bladed stance wouldnt translate over to MMA as your lead leg is vulnerable to leg kicks and single legs. Stances are your foundation for combat sports and it takes years to get comfortable in the opposite stance as well as mastering the footwork in the stance.

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

what does the boxing stance have anything to do with learning how to properly box? do you talk about the wrestling stance whenyou go train wrestling. do you tell your coach "well i would get knee'd if i do this takedown"? how about butt scooting? do you talk about how butt scooting dont work when you train bjj? do you go up to your muay thai coach and say i cant do this because i would get taken down? or do you train to fight like a thai? its funny how the mma community has this special treatment to boxing.

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

you still got this 25 year old excuses to not train boxing and learn how to properly punch. of course you dont use a wrestling stance in mma. but that doesnt stop you from training wrestling does it? what makes you willing to travel across the world to learn how to teep and fight like a thai? when you can just drive a half hour to the hood and learn how to box? why arent you talking about the thai stance?

@thrash208

8 ай бұрын

@@Teddy-se8qb "What does the boxing stance have anything to do with boxing correctly?"....nothing thats not relavant to the conversation. We are talking about MMA fighters going into boxing matches and why it doesnt seem to work out. Alot of it has to do with the bladed stance and how you have to switch from a squared stance to bladed. Its hard to train out of you in like a year. "Do you talk about the wrestling stance when training wrestling, do you tell you coach "well i would get kneed if i do this takedown?". Im not quite sure what your talking about, if your training pure wrestling then why would you? Youre not using it to fight youre using it to wrestle. Most MMA gyms have modified their grappling art wether thats wrestling or BJJ or a hybrid to take these concerns into consideration. "Do you go up to the muy thai coach and say "i cant do this because i would get taken down or do you fight like thai?"" Why would you worry about take downs if your training muy thai?. The conversation is about legitimate MMA fighters COMPETEING in boxing. Also the thai stance is already wider because of kicks so it does translate over to mma quite well. "Its funny how the MMA community has a special thing about boxing" I mean yeah but no. We are seeing MMA fighters competeing in boxing so of course youre going to see commentary on it. To an obnoxious boxing fan it solidifies their sport is the better combat sport and that boxing is king especially when its UFC guys that was at the top get dismantled by a guy like jake paul. To the obnoxious casual MMA fan usually thinks the MMA fighter will win then after the L its either "the fight was rigged" or silence. But to actual mma fans and people who train its expected and we simply explain why it happens.i have no ill towards boxing ive trained and competed for years but when you transition yo MMA you throw out 8/10 things youve learned and for good reason just like you would going from MMA to boxing

@cedricl.marquard6273

8 ай бұрын

@@thrash208 Tyson Fury was invited to the Octagon against Jon Jones, which he funnily enough declined, cause he'd get mauled in that setting

@thrash208

8 ай бұрын

@@cedricl.marquard6273 "im not a cage fighter M8"🤣

It’s like tommy fury said MMA fighter are not boxers and boxers aren’t mma fighters huge difference

I dont get what the point of this video is.... You could answer this in 5 seconds... "They have way more stuff to focus on"

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

I don’t get the point of your comment, don’t like it? Don’t need an answer? Don’t watch. I appreciate your stand point though, I’m a new KZreadr just trying. Sub and watch me in a year I’ll be better 😅

Mma fighter who is a good boxer in 4oz gloves vs a boxer. IN A BOXING MATCH

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

The margins would be closer I believe

I dont think these celebrity boxing matches prove that MMA fighters cant box. Most high level MMA fighters in their prime with good striking could beat Jake Paul in a boxing match

It would be interesting to have a conbat sport that just included boxing and wrestling. There are some boxers, like bud crawford and gennady golovkin, that are good wrestlers, so that I think would level the playing field. The problem is that it would be kinda redundant to mma.

@deanodog3667

8 ай бұрын

It's already been done

@mindblockandroid

8 ай бұрын

@@deanodog3667 Do you mean Triad? I thought it was still too much like boxing.

@astrosherlock374

8 ай бұрын

So Pankration. But then again, Pankration did have submissions.

@deanodog3667

8 ай бұрын

@@mindblockandroid catch wrestling was a thing in Victorian times !!

@deanodog3667

8 ай бұрын

@@mindblockandroid a lot of old boxers like Dempsey etc had at least a working knowledge of catch wrestling!

The AC2 soundtrack in the background is so random lol

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

😂 that’s how I like it

The music background is haunting me 😭

All great points untill the "licensed hugging" thing: that's literally boxing: 12 rounds of a tiny man in a shirt trying to pull two dudes apart and shouting at them to stop. Then a bell rings🤷‍♂️. If you want the MMA equivalent it's lay and pray not clinches.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

No I know, I was only kidding, mma clinches are clearly a lot more active than boxing clinches

You don't need to sit through this. (Before i even watch) The answer is: - Bigger, more cushioned gloves stifle their punches & make it far more difficult to get clean shots through their opponents' gaurd. - There aren't as many clinch/grappling set-ups or situations where they can land short punches to stationary targets. - Boxing rings are much larger & have more room for opponents to evade & get away from their shots. - Most MMA guys don't have/aren't used to the pace & style that works in a 12, 3 minute round boxing-match. - You're only able to throw 2 weapons as opposed to 4. - Most MMA guys are training wrestling & Jui-jitsu as well as several other aspects of MMA fighting that don't translate well vs someone who strictly trains for boxing, & cardio designed for boxing. Will edit if I remember anything else that I left out. ✌🏻🧔🏼‍♂️

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Bit rude

@victortorres1585

8 ай бұрын

Mma fighter train in boxing gloves if I had to guess is they don’t train to snap their punches like you do in boxing

Why do you only have 145 subs 😭😭too underrated

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Much love brother ❤️ I appreciate you 🙏

*Butterbean has entered the chat*

@jg3000

2 ай бұрын

Butterbean won MMA fights. So did Ron Mercer.

@1notdeadyet1

2 ай бұрын

@@jg3000 Yeah that's why I mention him. He was also a good boxer which goes against the title of thus video. I bring him up mainly as a même.

The awsner is very simple, boxing has its own system of compatible techniques that work in tangent with boxing, it’s rules, and the equipment used. A good example would be a pro boxer loosing in a kickboxing match while yes a pro boxer would hold his own kickboxing has its own regulated system that needs adequate training in order to be efficient in.

the clinch is more of a place to rest in boxing than mma coz your still fighting in mma, the clinch is not a place you wanna be resting

@boshirahmed

8 ай бұрын

Have u seen Tyson Fury clinch? Dirty fighters know to fight in the clinch. Everyone Duran being an expert.

@poweroftheriff

8 ай бұрын

You.must have been watching some crappy boxers, here's how the best fight in the clinch kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6OIs858erKznag.htmlsi=v2WfDpT_bhv9bYV9

@ewwgavinnooo

8 ай бұрын

@@boshirahmedhave you seen him throw a knee in the clinch? Didn’t think so

The AC music hahaha

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Ya know 😂

Was smart for nate to take the boxing fight with logan he would take punches anyways now he has aa good payday of the absobed punches too

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@SunTzuMedia

8 ай бұрын

He fought jake, bro...

Floyd had such control he carried Connor to the 10th for a reason and I can prove it. About a week and half before the fight, Floyd attempted to bet the under for the over/under of 9.5 rounds. Now boxers ARE NOT allowed to bet on their own fights. Everyone knows this including Floyd so why would he try to place a bet if he knew he couldn’t do it? Floyd knew the media would hear about him trying to bet the under and pick the story up. And the news did just that w/ stories saying Floyd tried to bet the under but he wasn’t allowed to! Floyd’s no idiot and did this for a reason. He knew if the story got out, everyone would rush out and bet the under for the fight which would shift the odds for the bet(think of Pulp fiction when Bruce Willis bet on himself after word got out he would throw the fight). And if you remember Floyd stopped Connor in the 10th round. I would bet you anything Floyd had his friend bet the over after the odds shifted. The Floyd trying to bet on himself for the under and stopping him the following round is straight up fact. And even if you watch the fight Floyd seems to not attack to much in the 8th and 9th but turns up the heat in the 10th round. That’s how much control Floyd had in the fight by carrying Connor to the 10th round. Or you could believe that Floyd really had no idea he couldn’t bet on himself after 20 years as a pro with a boxing family and it was just a coincidence that he stopped Connor the round after the over/under was suppose to be

They aren’t. It’s just a different style to avoid head kicks. That’s like saying why are boxers so bad at kick boxing.

Boxers understand a little bit of grappling and cuddling too. Mayweather was a big hugger.

To be honest, I just think that the type of boxing MMA fighters do is very different biomechanically. At extremely close range mma fighters are going to be opting for clinching/takedowns/elbows/knees, and mma fighters can't use the same kind of upper body movement/footwork as boxers do to build momentum for strikes. MMA punches are a lot more loose whippy punches designed to connect at the end of the punch at long range. In boxing you need to punch through your closer targets more and punch through the guard of your opponent. Actually conor mcgregor is a great example of this, he had amazing hand speed probably better than most pro boxers in his prime, but the mechanics of his punches are designed for chin sniping at the end of his punches which is far more effective when the opponent does not have two big gloves to use to hide those small targets, and has to use their hands for grappling/catching kicks. It's not that mma fighters have bad boxing, it's that the kind of boxing that works in high level MMA isnt the same kind of boxing that works in high level boxing. I don't think Floyd would be a devastating puncher in MMA.

Song: asc2 venice rooftops

What also helps the “boxers” by which you mostly mean the Paul brothers to this point, is they select washouts and old men to fight.

You don't notice anything funny about the "mma guys" that he is carefully selecting to box in his organization after signing a big fat prebout agreement? They're not boxers in the octagon either, like that isn't their main strength, and when it comes to Askren, he was like obhorrent with his hands! The fact that Paul even selected him to fight is an admission that Jake had very low confidence in his skills. And Diaz, well there is never any power behind his slaps, Woodley has one punch, a right hook, other than that he was a wrestler. So, this is what most adults would refer to as a charade, but boxing has long histories of shows like this so apparently many people don't realize what they're looking at.

Old school kickboxing had a ten kick rule where you had to get ten kicks in order to be considering winning a round, In addition to what ever work your already doing. You could have kickboxing vs boxing matches and mma fighters fill in for kickboxers, and use this rule as to disparage ONLY boxing.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Interesting idea, though I feel that a kick-boxer would still be overpowered for a boxer to deal with

An mma fighter who wants to be great at boxing should just fight mediocre to good boxers, about once a month, every month for a year or two. That way they can get used to whatever adjustments they need to make before they're ready to fight top-level boxers.

Cage fighters crossing into boxing dishonors cage fighting. MMA is a superior sport for superior fighters, and nobody should stoop to the level of boxing if they are a good cage fighter.

Triad Combat rules made the most sense for boxer vs MMA, regular boxing rules is just a style of combat vast majority of mma fighters are not used to.

Loving the assassins creed 2 music

In a real life or death situation I'd rather know MMA. Lol hold on dog let me put these gloves on first before we fight. Lol in real life all boxing will do is leave you with a broken hand.

@ryandebruys2762

9 ай бұрын

Its the timeless question, WWYDIRL. If we're talking the streets, I'm not very interested in clinching, take downs, or submissions. I want to put my attacker out with one shot. I don't know if he's got a knife, or if his buddy will bottle me in the head when I'm on top of him. I also don't want to stick around, once the opportunity to escape exists. That isn't to say that learning defence against grappling isn't of use - it surely is. But if I had one tool and one tool only, it would for sure be a KO punch.

@disappointmentyes6387

8 ай бұрын

​@@ryandebruys2762Most street fights are going to end up on the ground so it would be smart to know some grappling

@cripplingcaffeineaddiction3847

8 ай бұрын

​@ryandebruys2762 if it's a 1v1 situation and he doesn't have a deadly weapon your best bet is knowing grappling and submissions to end the fight taking minimal damage. Or if you've kickboxed for a long time you can probably pull off a leg kick untrained guys will drop at one well executed leg kick.

@ryandebruys2762

8 ай бұрын

@@cripplingcaffeineaddiction3847 remember though, he isn't going to show you he has a knife before he uses it.

@sonnykpp537

8 ай бұрын

@@ryandebruys2762 in a street fight with someone with a knife you want to run not box dont be stupid

"It's not secret the average mma fighter murders the average average boxer in a street fight" Spoken like someone who's never been in a street fight and you're confusing the octagon with a street fight. Oh and you forgot to mention Mayweather was 50, who never had a KO in 2 decades & was still playing with McGregor. McGregor would've been staring at the sky if it was any other boxer.

Why mma fighters are bad at boxing? Because majority of them focused on grappling and wrestling. Not so much on striking. One Championship has the best well rounded fighters. Better than UFC.

This might be controversial but prime strong chin Cody Garbandt would have done well in boxing

“Hey, Be Nice”….😂😂😂😂 Nate Diaz is such a dad and I like it. So nice to see that side of him ☺️

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Haha he’s a legend mate ❤️ getting softer as the days go on…

@luwado

6 ай бұрын

Thanks to CTE @@Kiercho

"Did those belts even go back to africa? I wake up every day in africa. I. Breath the african air. Im the real african fighter in the ufc, and im taking that belt back to africa" - mike perry

The more padding in the boxing gloves means you harder longer.

Bare knuckle boxing is the crossover

Boxing is an Olympic sport, and MMA will never be.

With all the hugging , elbows, and takedown attempts in Boxing now, Boxers might as well fight in UFC sometimes.

Boxer guy vs muay thai guy lol

@MindSurf248

2 ай бұрын

It's been done, the Muay thai fighter has to utilise low kicks because the boxer is very dangerous on the inside. The boxer has to learn kick defense and go for a bit of a more square stance or their front leg gets destroyed. Boxers still demonstrated very very high level striking skills even relevant to Muay Thai fighters, but suffered from the lack of defence.

0:38 wasn't he a wrestler before? It may be the one thing he is most skilled in. 6:00 i like the idea of similar formats to Triad Combat. It is basically Dirty Boxing rules. I like that it doesn't involve kicking whatsoever ,just stepping. Reminds me of another video i saw ,how boxers were dominating Muay Thai right now. A format of upper body striking only, punching ,elbows, shoulders clinching and maybe standing submission,like in Shoot Boxing,could be an alternative sport to Kickboxing. Could be useful thing to train for,for both groups,to focus on upper body. Maybe allowing Greco Roman type wrestling? It is gonna give a different type of entertainment than what is currently offered. Even with rules seemingly favoring the boxers,weren't the MMA fighters the winners of the majority of matches?

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

Yeah Ben askren was a wrestler and was never considered a striker. though even with greco roman wrestling bieng allowed, the boxer would always be at a disadvantage and the fights would likely be heavily lobsided. I think the boxer would sooner take to kicking than any form of wrestling. Great suggestions though, the fact that mma fighters seemingly are winning more fights is the sheer quality of the fighters they have managed to get from MMA I believe.

@henrynguyen8994

9 ай бұрын

Boxers are not dominating in Muay Thai. They are only doing good in kickboxing, where the ruleset is limited and does not allow clinching

Why do boxers suck more at mma than mma fighters suck at boxing

I guess the reason most mma guys look off in boxing is cause of 1) they are not strikers in mma(ben askren) 2)they are fighting one of best boxers ever (conor mcgregor) 3) they are old/washed and smaller then their opponent (silva and nate and woodley) , paul brothers have made a career this way, fighting out of prime "MMA" fighters (Just made this comment before watching the video to give my 2 cents, no hate brother , keep the work going, i checked out you page, you are making some good ass videos)

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

On the money. And I appreciate that mate thank you! 🙏❤️

@tillburr6799

8 ай бұрын

mma boxing is different to boxing boxing. space and pace and rhythm is different. no mma fighter will ever do well in boxing for this reason

A bladed stance is if ur foot is behind ur other foot a boxed stance is if both feet are next to eachother the boxing stance ur talking about is a mix between bladed and boxed mostly bladed so it allows less surface area but a little boxed so you dont lose balance and thats just a regular stance in any striking sport not strictly a boxing stance

@wearebacchanalia2945

8 ай бұрын

Wrong. Bladed is feet slight shoulder width apart, front toe at about forty five degree angle with toe on imaginary line that goes to the heel of the rear foot. It's called squared not boxed and it is about putting both hands in range, quicker lateral footwork to cut the ring off for example, and a wider range of upper body movement to name a few.

@lance-biggums

8 ай бұрын

Kickboxing stance is more square and shorter than a boxing stance. Muay Thai stance is even more square and shorter than regular kickboxing

some dude once said; mma is a mile wide, but an inch deep. boxing, is an inch wide, but a mile deep..

Title should be why age and weight class matters

I don't actually think a boxer is fucked in MMA Holly Holms showed that. But they have to at the least learn some kick, takedown and grappling defence. It's also helpful to pick up a few basic kicks. But if they can do that, the high level striking is very dangerous.

Agreed no cross over is necessary. It like asking a soccer player to play American Football (Real football). But since it involve fighting crossovers will continue to happen.

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

more like asking a american football player to play rugby. but i dont see a world where jake paul trains rugby for 2 years and runs over jj watt.

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

mma fighters have a glaring hole in their game and it needs to be addressed. flat out they suck at boxing. its the truth. theres no high schooler in the world who can submit khabib or take him down at 40 years old. but there are teenagers who will knock him the fuck out in boxing. theres no world where a youtuber can train bjj for 2 years and submit tyrone woodley. but there is a world where youtubers with 2 years of training knock out mma champs in boxing.

@Teddy-se8qb

8 ай бұрын

izzy the "greatest mw of all time" couldnt even stop a basic 1,2. all that spinning, switching stances, question mark kicks and flashy techniques for absolutely nothing. a 1,2 broke him down. day 1 boxing techniques. the most basic shit in the game. when the most refined and best striker to ever fight in the ufc cant stop a basic 1,2 from a less athletic fighter who was a 7-1 underdog. it should make the wheels turn in the head and make you ask questions. "why cant he stop the most basic boxing move and why cant izzy use the same 1,2 back?" i'll give you the answer. they suck at boxing.

just meet in the middle and play under the combat karate rules set

Jack of all trades rather than a master of one. Pretty simple.

Why is your bgm from assasins creed?

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Because AC OST IS THE GOAT mate

Well like you said, boxers will win until they step out of their rule set. And when they do that, is gg

i WILL say: coner was a HUGE embarrassing failure. Floyd toyed carrying him. it was a mercy-stop... Floyd was 30 seconds away from dropping him. but they didn't want to see him flop. He was clearly GASSED out. Francis Ngannou - was another huge Failure... but $20M boxing, as opposed to ufc $600k wins is worth it i guess.

@Kiercho

2 ай бұрын

It’s all about the benjamins for them

Because boxing and MMA striking are not the same. It’s like asking why water polo players can’t win the 100m freestyle.

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

Yet mma fighters ARE put against boxers and polo players aren’t put against Usain bolt.

@darrylkemp3253

9 ай бұрын

​​@@KierchoUsain bolt doesn't complete in the 100m freestyle SWIMMING genius 🤦

@radityapoerwanto7018

8 ай бұрын

​@@KierchoDon't pretend you don't know why. It's money. And I know some Boxing fans gonna mock MMA for being underpaid... but at least MMA promoters are more organized, less corrupt, and only has one belt per division.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

@@radityapoerwanto7018 agreed

There is a reason for an amateur system in boxing. I think some people honestly believe hitting focus pads teaches individuals how to box. Even having a few amateur fights and fighting primarily local meaning your own state is not enough. Unless you’re a special talent. Once an amateur start participating nationally and internationally. That’s when it usually get real. Boxing has many styles and unfortunately. Too many individuals these days don’t have a clue about boxing. Kick boxing and MMA coaches don’t have a clue about boxing. Back in the day the commentators would educate the public and explain what the fighters are doing in the ring. Today most commentators are very biased don’t just cheerlead for the popular fighter. Let’s be realistic what are the chances of a novice grappler being able to defeat a world class grappling competitor. It’s the same when it comes to boxing

Btw, mayweather was bascially 40 years old, still impressive but no surprised 🥊

It's like Boxers going to MMA....different sports

@averageminecraftenjoyer9419

8 ай бұрын

Happened once and the boxer went to hell and back

@gdaycunt2001

8 ай бұрын

​@@averageminecraftenjoyer9419and who is this? Not 1 boxer has ever stepped in an octagon with a mixer martial artist in their prime at that's facts, Logan Paul a WWE fighter 😂 stood 8 full rounds with the "best boxer of all time" 😂😂 But which boxer has ever gone into the octagon and made Jon Jones, GSP or Mighty Mouse lose to a decision after going the full rounds...?😂😂😂

@gdaycunt2001

8 ай бұрын

​@@averageminecraftenjoyer9419 you fradualent boxers fight half fights and youtubers literally revived your dead sport 😂😂 ouch..

Video just popped up after nganou beat fury

@Kiercho

7 ай бұрын

😅

I reckon sean strickland would beat jake paul in a boxing match.

@malcolm4667

8 ай бұрын

For sure

LMFAO You guys think this was a legit match? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ac2 music is a big w

@Kiercho

9 ай бұрын

You know brohter

Let mma do what they do and let boxers go at em. It’s like comparing a sprinter to a marathon runner they both run just different styles

Most of the MMA fighters that do boxer are old and retired from MMA wat else U expect

Mma fighters are bad at boxing yet you have 50 year olds like Anderson Silva beating world champions who are 20 years younger then him?

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Generalising, in the video i say of course there are success' such as the silva case, but the majority fall short

I’ve always wondered this. There are tons of UFC fighters who could (and have) compete at an Olympic level in wrestling. There are tons of UFC fighters who have could (and have) compete at the highest level in BJJ. Yet the greatest boxer in UFC history is 44-year old obese James Toney, 10 years and 50lbs past his prime. That version of James Toney could beat any UFC fighter in a boxing match easily.

@Robert399

8 ай бұрын

I think it’s less “MMA fighters can transition to wrestling and grapplers more easily than boxing” and more “wrestlers and grapplers can transition into MMA more easily than boxers can”, which means you have more elite people from those disciplines doing MMA compared to elite strikers (especially boxers).

Didn't anderson silva beat chavez Jr.

I have to hand it to the greedy promoters of these wretched affairs, you can make money out of suffering. The only rules and procedures these two endeavours share are human beings hitting each other. Outside of that, they are galaxies apart.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Aye, very true

I want to see jake box alex

I've never understood why they do these dumb "one guy stays in his field of expertise and the other has to almost completely change up his style - matches" and act as if we don't all know the outcome beforehand, like it's so freaking obvious who's going to win, if they wanted some tension then they should at least meet in the middle and do kick boxing or something but it's always just pure boxing.

I agree

The idea that an mma fighter could just beat a boxer in a street fight is a drastic assumption. There is not enough of examples for people to making these statements so cavalier. Yall really underestimate how quick and hard boxers punch and how well they can evade.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

people who bring this argument up often use the ''boxers punch super hard and evade well'', mma fighters hit back, its not like they hit less hard, the chances of a boxer 1 punch KOing an mma fighter before that mma fighter wraps them up, or chops their leg up is almost nil, unless there's a big difference in weight classes

@jeremiahsymonette4781

8 ай бұрын

@@Kiercho boxers absolutely punch harder than mma fighters...and faster. I don't think you understand how well that translates in a street fight, as most street fights will start with hands. And I'm sorry to tell you this it doesn't matter how tough the mma fighter is, the right fist placement is putting him to sleep. It's even worse when you realize boxers instinctively use combos. Now I'm not saying that an mma guy couldn't win, but the whole "they will kill a boxer in a street fight" is waaay too much of an exaggeration.

Nate Diaz is far past his prime,watch him against Cowboy Cerrone and tell me he has no boxing skills

well francis ngannou just arguably beat tyson fury…

@Kiercho

7 ай бұрын

I know dude, crazy. I’m gonna have to do a video on that

But mma fighter always beat boxer in real life on any situation....boxer has only one style of fighting but mma fighter beat u up ,choke you,break your leg, ground and pound ,if its a one vs one with no rules even light weight mma fighter will beat light heavyweight boxer 😅😅

Solid video dude, i only feel bad you have to deal with morons in your comments.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Thanks mate I appreciate that. I feel bad for myself too 😅

If they could box they would , they cant box , hence they make buttons in ufc comparatively!!

Max vs Floyd could go crazy

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

That would be interesting

Except Strickland...

connor went toe to toe with one of the greats and you call that a fail??? yee aight

Lel Francis Ngannou 😅

Is it just me or Ben askren looks like Jack Harlow

But it's not important cuz boxing isn't actual fighting. Lemme see one of them step in the cage.

Geez....it wouldn't be because they have to train wrestling,bjj and kickboxing on top of boxing would it?

@gdaycunt2001

8 ай бұрын

Deadset I've seen MMA fighters jump into a boxing ring but can't say the same the other way around... these boxers love to fight half fights only using hands when you have to be good at everything in MMA and Floyd Mayweather wouldn't last 2 mins in an actual octagon but walks around with a 50-0 record in boxing lol 😂😂

boxers trying mma is Inoki vs Ali

Tell that to Sean Strickland.

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Seans the GOAT. Philly shell club

@Kwisatz-Chaderach

8 ай бұрын

@@Kiercho 😆

I wonder why Muay thai fighters transition into boxing really well

There maybe some people entertained by the idea of seeing how a nba basketball player would do in russian opera ballet, yet as a lover of one or both of the sports it's just a stupid idea. So if there is money in it, do it. But it's stupid and it's very cheap concept. Boxing and MMA at an elite level are very different sport and art forms.

Boxing is crooked anyways. That's why the MMA might do well. Or maybe he is just talented. But boxers have been doing this one thing from very young. So big advantage over an MMA guy.

Because they got two left feet and they’re not humble enough to actually learn some boxing from a real boxing coach not from some Muay Thai trainer that just hold pads for them

feels like you just stoles this video from TJlovesfighting

@Kiercho

8 ай бұрын

Brother I was waiting for this comment. Because I am indeed inspired by TJ his vids are fantastic. I uploaded my vid at the same time as TJ And it’s not like you can whip this sort of video up within an hour. So yes it may appear that way, but I assure you, sometimes in the same niche, there will be overlap of ideas and videos. I actually punched my own meat and two veg that he did the same thing but better trust me 😅

I would beat Jake Paul in a boxing match if I was the same size as him

@VincereVince17

8 ай бұрын

No you won't

they lose cus they are all retired and dont fight regularly