When you think about it Obi-Wan Kenobi's life was filled with tragedy: losing his master, the woman he loved, his bestfriend, and the Jedi Order. Yet with all that he still never turned to the dark side. His devotion to the light side of the force saw him become one of the most powerful and wise jedi to ever live.

@apriljones2843

3 жыл бұрын

If you thought they hated Obi-Wan imagine if they found out about Mustafar

@jesusiscoming9252

3 жыл бұрын

If only Obi-Wan knew forgiveness was more powerful then the pull of the dark side *Anakin/Vader:* 💘

@xombi213

3 жыл бұрын

His crucible of tragedy taught him that devotion to the force is the only calling for a jedi.

@ethansouthwick6380

3 жыл бұрын

Qui-Gon didn’t know just how true or why it would be when he said this, but he was absolutely right when he said, “I foresee that you will become a great Jedi Knight,” when talking to Obi-Wan. Obi-wan is hands down my favorite Star Wars character. Period.

@Mercurium808

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, Obi-wan wasn't even supposed to be a Jedi. He aged out of the order and was going to become a farmer. Fate pushed he and Qui-Gon together, but even before, when Qui-Gon had repeatedly refused to train him, he never showed signs of falling to the dark side.

Basically: They’re Jealous bc Obiwan has a will of solid fucking Adamantium

@willkinahan5090

3 жыл бұрын

Haters gonna hate

@heinzguderian9980

3 жыл бұрын

If I lived in the same universe as Obi wan, I would be jealous too.

@averagepo4474

3 жыл бұрын

Has a will of solid fucking Beskar*

@awesomepanda1792

3 жыл бұрын

@@averagepo4474 that pure beskar do be pretty strong doe

@cxgx92isbilingual53

3 жыл бұрын

*beskar

If you thought they hated Obi-Wan imagine if they found out about Mustafar

@tf-mr-blue748

3 жыл бұрын

Oh Yes Obi-Wan killing the hero of the clone wars the Hero jedi

@Lemuel928

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin is no longer a hero.

@eatnut

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lemuel928 everyone in the star wars can9n universe thinks he died defending the youngling at the temple

@eatnut

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lemuel928 so if they saw obiwan kill anakin they would hate obiwan more

@Steve_P_B

3 жыл бұрын

@@eatnut remember that on Mustafar, Anakin was challenged on his slaughtering of the younglings. That revelation would have shaken the Jensaarai to their core and would cause them to have to re-evaluate their beliefs of Obi-Wan and Anakin.

Grey Jedi: hates Obiwan Me: Impossible

@johnmacgyver4928

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps their archives are incomplete?

@vitta8708

3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to learn this kind of power?

@kronos1794

3 жыл бұрын

Obi Wan: Hello there

@The_NJG

3 жыл бұрын

You said what I said but better.

@Bolt679

3 жыл бұрын

He has the knowledge of the high ground, of course they hate him

Can you finish the Qui-Gon Jin training Anakin video? It was really good and I want to see how that series ends.

@vitta8708

3 жыл бұрын

YES PLS

@bignick7924

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck ye I just watched those

@tommydux1012

3 жыл бұрын

Needs to be done

@hyltonhayles9988

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@nateullman4200

3 жыл бұрын

Would love that

Grey Jedi HATE him because of this one simple trick!!

@TheGoldenWildcat

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean that there isn't any such thing as a Di' Bendu or a Jen' di {If I spelled it right}.

@AAABattery_

3 жыл бұрын

The trick: Saying hello there

@davidevans7477

3 жыл бұрын

High Ground?

@ricksaburai

3 жыл бұрын

this one simple MIND trick!

@somni6756

3 жыл бұрын

Spinning; that's a good trick.

It's ironic that the Grey Jedi hated Obi-Wan as one of them trained him.

@zachbahamutson5477

3 жыл бұрын

Qui-Gon was Grey by the standards of the Jedi Council he was still very much firmly a Jedi.

@Tengu125

3 жыл бұрын

"The" Grey Jedi is a bit misleading. The Jensaarai, like all other Jedi splinter groups, are considered "grey" for not adhering to the same code. Kind of like how each of the Abrahamic religions consider their own as the one and only righteous path.

@Lemuel928

3 жыл бұрын

The Outlanders always dislike Obi-Wan Kenobi.

@wasifiqbal9984

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Obi Wan wasn't half the Jedi Qui Gon was.

@tf-mr-blue748

3 жыл бұрын

@@wasifiqbal9984 Maul wasn't either HAHAHAHAAHHA

TLDR: grey jedi hypocrites hated the light hypocrites and Space Jesus specifically since he was to OP for them

@Balabansa2

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@johnpatrick1857

3 жыл бұрын

your weird

@hyperlagacy436

3 жыл бұрын

More like tldw

@EagleZtoTheGrave

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@sithacolol5337

3 жыл бұрын

Gray Jedi are immeasurably superior to Jedi

They hated Obi-Wan because he had ascended to levels beyond any Jedi before him. He was the first Jedi to master the hidden power of the "High Ground".

@theoj948

Жыл бұрын

Lol

virgin grey "Jedi": THE JEDI LIED TO US THEYRE LITERALLY WORSE THAN THE SITH ONLY THE GREY JEDI CAN BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE Chad Obi-Wan: *h e l l o t h e r e*

@jamesburtner9076

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, they are so much worse than the Sith who enslave, oppress, and murder billions of people.

@ultimatesin5

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesburtner9076 I mean the Jedi held up a caste system in the galaxy basically with the core worlds, outer rim and everything in-between; not to mention they took the most gifted children away from their homeworlds

@FoxHound-ut1hu

3 жыл бұрын

@@ultimatesin5 To be fair, they were neither the ruling class nor did they steal the children, the parents had a choice.

@ultimatesin5

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoxHound-ut1hu but they were the enforcers of the ruling class until the clones came around...... essentially galaxy police with a dash of religion mixed in there.... Also speaking as a devil's advocate that is brainwashed by the empire

@FoxHound-ut1hu

3 жыл бұрын

@@ultimatesin5 I mean police is a strong word more like peace keepers and negotiators but that is probably semantics.

Because he always has the HIGH-ground.

@thejworks07

3 жыл бұрын

More true than you think High ground meaning vantage point Obi rarely engaged during the clonw wars without a strategy in place prior

@ryanbobadilla2527

3 жыл бұрын

Luna Radeon spitting straight facts.

@a1shie230

3 жыл бұрын

Yuss

@ruckas3435

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't versus maul. In order to have the high ground you have to bask in it. Merge yourself with it. Delve into it. Only once you become one with the high ground will one be able to achieve space Jesus status.

@Albania4life535

3 жыл бұрын

Because he understaminated obi wan's high ground

Dude your script sounds like your trying to hit the word count on an essay, go into more detail instead of saying “they wanted the sith to destroy the jedi” 5 different ways in 30 seconds

havent watched the video yet cause im at work but i already know the answer.... grey jedi hated obi wan because he mauled them with his savage wit and oppressed them with his darth humor

@birdperson9559

3 жыл бұрын

i see what u did there in the end...

@ryanspencer2844

3 жыл бұрын

Well played!

@ricksanchez3695

3 жыл бұрын

Did you just...?

@maxwhite8616

3 жыл бұрын

why

@luna775

3 жыл бұрын

Your reason has more sense than the tittle of the video and more depththan the video itself..

I love how Obi Wan was not even a good force-wielder and just perfected Soresu aka defense, gets his ass kicked a lot throughout numerous scenes in the movies and Clone Wars and still is considered one of the, if not the most feared and most respectable Jedi Master in the Galaxy. What an amazing character :')

@darthvader5558

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I love Obi Wan Kenobi

@Duplotopf

Жыл бұрын

Obi wan has actually a little high mediclorian count, but he never used his power

@as-ep7ev

Жыл бұрын

They hate him because he was the first to appear in movies.

@danbobway5656

Жыл бұрын

When did this happen? Outside of both fights with dooku he kicks literally everyone's ass.... he kicked mauls ass, he kicked Vader/anakins ass, he kicked grevious ass too and ventriss in clone wars. Only reason he got rekt by dooku was for the plot of the movie anyway so Palpatine could tell anakin to kill dooku without obi wan being like "this dude Palpatine on some other shit"

@GutsBatman

Жыл бұрын

@@danbobway5656 I distinctly remember people being pissed off that he beat Grevious as easily as he did because of the how the Clone Wars cartoon had portrayed Grevious.

Obi-one:I have the high ground now Anakin and the grey jedi: I hate you

@L10D-.._._._--.._-._..-_-_...

3 жыл бұрын

No I have the higher ground than obi wan

@L10D-.._._._--.._-._..-_-_...

3 жыл бұрын

It is Vader’s castle

@nanochad2979

3 жыл бұрын

@Thomas Laity-Cash I have an LAAT and am now at 10,000m, I have the highest ground

I always tought grey jedi hated Obi Wan because he was a master of high ground, while they preffered the middle ground👀

The Sith: *Genocide the Jedi, including literal children. The Jensaarai: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that. Edit: I mean you all aren't wrong. The Jedi also did messed up stuff. But the Jensaarai ignored that the Sith also did messed up stuff. In my opinion genocide in retaliation is still genocide, and thus still messed up.

@MrCdog85

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair though, the Jedi have also killed whole groups of padawans for thinking just one of them might turn to the dark side.

@Lemuel928

3 жыл бұрын

Darn,that’s what Vader has been doing.

@rogan4338

3 жыл бұрын

And enslave an entire race and blow up entire planets.

@alexandrerodrigues3900

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrCdog85 A rogue secretive group of Jedi*

@raxgaming3010

3 жыл бұрын

Killing Jedi was justified because Jedi also wiped out Sith they were hunted down by Jedi order it same fair if ask me

Why does no one ever mention that for the first 3-5 minutes he just repeats the same thing over and over then half way thru the video he gets to the topic then repeats that for the rest the video sprinkled with what he said in the beginning lol

@jg14gerhard_bar

3 жыл бұрын

glad to find this comment

@GalaxyDogenut

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Same question.

@GemKeeper87

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr He only talked about the topic of the video for less than 2 min

@GalaxyDogenut

3 жыл бұрын

@@GemKeeper87 yeah.

@awesomifyable

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure because the vid needs to be 8 minutes long for the algorithm to pick it up

I like that concept. The concept of the "good guys" always thinking they're the good guys, no matter what anyone says or how anyone thinks. This concept applies to real life as about 90% of the world population uses that concept every single day. The thing about bringing "balance" in the SW universe is just that, balance. Both sith and jedi or neither.

@7mriwantlightning710

2 жыл бұрын

Then 10% of the population are fooling themselves. Concept of the Good guys is human nature. We can’t deny it no matter whar

@wolfhide4488

2 жыл бұрын

@@7mriwantlightning710 No in nature there are no good guys or bad guys just the living and dead why would that not apply to humans.

@cityguard4847

2 жыл бұрын

I also think people fool themselves with the idea of “grey” too. Like, the Sith are absolutely diabolical and the dark side is destructive in nature. Everyone knows that. But the reason it becomes prevalent is because the Jedi often wind up becoming the source of their own troubles, either through dogmatic practices, corrupting within the ranks, or simply ignorance and misuse of their status to benefit themselves. The best Jedi are the ones in the field, not the council or the political ones, but the ones out there doing what’s right. Standing up for the people. That sort of thing. So yeah, the Sith and dark side are objectively evil and that much is true. But the Jedi order itself is flawed. But that doesn’t mean you need both to exist and that “balance” is a key. It’s just how things are. Things will balance out eventually, since someones always gonna have a problem with tyranny and rampant destruction against the Sith. While the Jedi order are prone to creating their own problems, so they’re balanced out over time as their ego inflates.

@Schoolgirl325

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not a surprise to me that the gray Jedi of Luke’s time didn’t like the perfect Jedi™️ of the old Order who deliberately disregarded his still flawed, but more idealistic and open-minded master Qui Gonn’s teachings. He almost consistently threw his personal agency, beliefs, interests, moral integrity, and friendships with Luke, Ahsoka, Padme, and Anakin under the bus to kiss Yoda’s ass and get ahead on the Council. I mean, it was to the point that, even in death, he could not admit that he was wrong to deceive Luke to try to fulfill Yoda’s request of him to use him as weapon to kill off the monster of a man he and Yoda inadvertently helped turn his father into in the afterlife. I’m not saying Obi-Wan was evil and a conquerer like all of the gray Jedi are saying. That’s exaggerated Empire propaganda they grew up under, but there is a grain of truth to it too. He wasn’t generally ill-intended, but he was never a particularly good person either. Obi-Wan was a good Jedi by the standards of *his time* because he generally sold his soul to Yoda and the Council. He consciously made an effort to shut down and not learn from people who had or once had more idealistic, open-minded, and spontaneously selfless traits because they didn’t gain Yoda’s and the Council’s favor. Even Anakin has more moments of that sort of idealistic, spontaneous, and selfless true heroism in the narrative at his best, and he also became one of the franchise’s most horrifying and prominent villains. It just goes to show that being a teacher’s pet in class does not automatically equal being a successful person. Yeah, individualism in excess leads to toxic selfishness, but you also do need a level of individual curiosity and motivation of the world outside of your comfort zone to truly make a difference for the better around you. If your only goal is to fit in with the crowd and just play it safe, you can’t make a meaningful impact for the better of anyone else or achieve true selflessness either because the only thing that motivates you is external validation when have no personal values or self-motivation to be good and do better. That’s Obi-Wan’s tragedy.

Y'know, for an Order that has "there is no ignorance, there is knowledge" as one of the lines of their Code, they have a bad habit of "lock it up and toss the key" when it comes to anything that challenges them. Reason #124 why post-Ruusan Jedi practically did Palpatine's work for him.

Qui Gon (to the grey jedi): You make Jar Jar look like a Professor teaching Science.

@PeteTheGrouch

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Qui - how's your stomach?

@doctorwho3708

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeteTheGrouch Just fine. How your trash. (I read the user name as Grinch!😂)

@PeteTheGrouch

3 жыл бұрын

@@doctorwho3708 'Just fine', he says.. ( _all while ignoring the whopping great hole..!_ ) Oh, my trash is just lovely, thank you so much for asking. ;-) ( _seriously, hardly anyone ever asks about my trash..._ )

Obi-Wan was the perfect JEDI. Strict to the code and thus made the biggest contributions in Star Wars history.

@thebeast9606

3 жыл бұрын

Strict adherence to the code would actually make him imperfect. Yoda basically acknowledges this when he talked to Luke in The Last Jedi.

@them6086

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebeast9606 he bent the rules multiple times and let Anakin do his thing turning a blind eye.

@benceozi3739

3 жыл бұрын

What about Obi Wans love affair with Duthess Satine? He did love her, somethin he internally had to battle with....

@verbalkint4258

3 жыл бұрын

@@benceozi3739 he didn't let his feelings control him. He was going to leave the Order for her but decided against it.

@OrDuneStudios

3 жыл бұрын

@@verbalkint4258 Nope. "If you siad the word I woupd have left the Jedi Order". He never stopped loving her and only kept his vows because 1. She didnt ask him not to. And 2. When they met up again it was War and the weight of his duty was greater. Even then if she in the Clone Wars asked Obi Wan to join her and cease being a Jedi I am 100% sure he would have. It was Satines death and Anakins turn that made him a true code bound Jedi.

Obi-wan: “They Hate us cus the ain’t us”

@ogtpot40

3 жыл бұрын

"hate us cus they anus"

@alexplaysminc.-.5922

3 жыл бұрын

*I mean, you're not wrong* *that's basically what it is*

Qui-Gon was known as a grey Jedi and was his master. Talk about warped thinking. I heard grey Jedi were like qui-gon not drinking all the cool aid from the Jedi but knowing the sith were evil too.

I remember my first playthough of SWTOR. I ended up playing a light side Sith purely because I found it more interesting than you're average run of the mill slaughter all who stand against you, those that piss you off and anyone else who so much as looks at you wrong approach. The Jedi were always so surprised when I didn't kill them.

Obi-Wan could exist in the Jedi Order without being their blind dog. He knew what to do, knew what was right from wrong, saw things the way the should’ve been seen by any fellow who’s morally decent. He was a good guy in general.

Cuz he’s built different. I literally only clicked on this video to make a joke about high ground but everyone else did that 🤷‍♂️

@BillyBobJoeSurviv

3 жыл бұрын

@Abe Tsenoh only sith deal in absolutes

@avay8726

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah its an overused joke

2:17 A little oversight in this topic, to say that the point of Jedi coveting darkside knowledge is false is in grey territory. The Jedi stored many Sith artifacts, scripts, and Holocrons within a hidden vault within their own temple; some of these dark artifacts even having the ability to corrupt those that came in contact with them. The word coveted is used, which would be false, but even so they had one of, if not, the biggest vault of old Sith and dark Jedi artifacts stored within their own temple on Coruscant. And also after the fall of the Jedi order, Sidious is said to have taken many of these artifacts from this very vault to add to his own collection.

Because Obi Wan proved you can be a good, reasonable man who is still disciplined enough to remain firmly within the light and follow the Order. Grey Jedi were practical but also weak IMO

When your philosophy denies core aspects of humanity, then the undeniable truth of those core aspects will lead up to to their logical opposite. Without passion, love, hate or vengeance, many find that they also feel no *purpose*. To experience emotion is to feel alive, whereas to deny emotion and exist in clarity is essentially to live like a dead thing or a rock. The truth is to see that these core aspects of humanity can taint our vision and cloud our judgement. At times they can become vices and eat away at our characters until they twist and distort. Yet they are an undeniable part of us all. It is the unique manifestations of emotions that guide our development as individuals, and the more we can embrace and realize that in ourselves an others, the more simply it is to live in harmony. The Jedi way is, in a sense, a lazy path. Rather than incorporate emotion into their guiding philosophy, they instead choose to deny and suppress it. Suppression grows emotion and never stifles it--those who achieve enlightenment can eventually release their emotions and ego to the breeze, but the emotions can *always* come back. The Jedi DID create the Sith because both philosophies are incomplete.

@davidtucker9498

3 жыл бұрын

This is why grey Jedi hated Obi-wan. He walked the walk. He didn't reject his humanity like other Jedi, he accepted his emotions, but he mastered them. They did not master him. Grey Jedi, and people who like them, recognize that they are too weak to be actual Jedi, like Obi-wan. The problem with the Jedi order is not simply their philosophy, it was trying to force it upon all Jedi. This is why they raised Padawans from childhood (Also why Anakin had to kill the younglings). Obi-wan, and likely Yoda as well, was an outlier. Luke was not a grey Jedi. He was a Jedi like Obi-wan, he recognized that he had emotions, but rather than being consumed by them, he mastered them.

@sithacolol5337

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidtucker9498 Except the fact that a Grey Jedi is not only wiser, but more powerful than either Sith or Jedi. They are factually the only good side, are both extremely powerful, and extremely wise. They are superior period.

@josephstahl9119

3 жыл бұрын

@@sithacolol5337 Obi-Wan: Lol.

@cityguard4847

3 жыл бұрын

@@sithacolol5337 ehhh I would like to argue. While the Jedi are certainly flawed, it’s only 1 difference away from actually being better than the greys. Morally, the greys are... well, grey. Part of me thinks they’re more corruptible, you just need to find what makes them tick as an individual, rather than letting the standard Jedi be blindly arrogant of their own weaknesses In short, while the Grey’s are more neutral, it means they’re closer to tipping over to the dark than the regular Jedi ever were. After all, while the Jedi lack awareness of their own flaws, an inexperienced grey may find themselves much more willing to embrace dark practices for their own gain. The dark side is much like a drug. The more you indulge it, the more risk you put yourself in.

@sithacolol5337

3 жыл бұрын

@@cityguard4847 when I say morally, I mean in the force. The only good side of the force is balance period. It's been specifically stated. The Jedi wish to have no business with the dark side.

Obi-wan:I got the high ground Me:you realize my castle has the highest ground

@L10D-.._._._--.._-._..-_-_...

3 жыл бұрын

I Did not thought about that

Master Kenobi is my favorite Jedi but how is he the perfect master when Master Yoda has like, 860 something years on Master Kenobi?

@mattmaughan6871

3 жыл бұрын

Yoda has alot of problems. Age is no guarantee of mastery, nor skill, nor really even wisdom. Yoda is a slave to dogma, and routine, and he even admitted that the fall of the jedi was pretty much his personal fault. He trained and led the order for 800 years, and didnt let it change or evolve. He was a force for stagnation, which is the weakness and pitfall of the jedi. Yoda also espouses a reverence and respect for the force, but that is belied by his every use of it as a utility tool. And not even a sharp or subtle tool either. Hes the bluntest of the blunt in every application of the force he is shown using. He is a terrible lightsaberist. He hates lightsaber combat, hates any fighting. As such, his mastery of it is wrote. He learned all about the forms so he could teach them, but only uses ataru because it makes up for his shortcomings (short) and its in line with his reliance on the force and wielding it like a blunt instrument. Ataru is all attack, little defensive focus. Instead of yielding to and following the will of the force, yoda stubbornly held onto the order of his youth. Contrast that with kenobi, who actively pursued and attained absolute mastery over his chosen form, chosen by the way not to make up for any short comings but because it was more in line with his own philosophy and connection to the force. Kenobi was willing to defy the order to follow the will of the force several times, most notably the training of anakin. Kenobi used the force in a truly reverent way in all his applications of it. He was described as a clear window onto the sunlit meadow of the force.

@playboydeeke4631

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmaughan6871 Jesus bro wrote a whole essay🙄

@willg.7775

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmaughan6871 impressive. Most impressive. Indeed you have a powerful insight.

@Helluvabutl3r

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmaughan6871 I agree with you. Yoda wasn’t a slouch by any means, but by being a jack of all trades he was kinda a master of none. His only saving Grace being his species ability to survive for as long as they do. Compare him to the Jedi/Sith of old and he would pale in comparison

@markusmuik4499

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattmaughan6871 I too am a Kenobi fan but I have to tell you that your comment is all but right. Yoda was one of the best duelists of his time and even Darth Sidious fled from a duel against Yoda. Regarding his use of the force: HAVE YOU EVER READ THE YODA COMIC SERIES? I agree on the other points.

You do realize the when the Jedi Order was Destroyed by Vader every Jedi that survived became classified as being grey right? Because the Order was destroyed so they could no longer be in the Jedi Order. Ben Kenobi and even Yoda were grey Jedi at that time because there was no Jedi Order anymore.

Wonder how they react to force ghost kenobi

@Conehead55

3 жыл бұрын

Happy Ewok noises

@Daan-Dovah

3 жыл бұрын

@@faezerz5861 obi-wan is not dead just immortal that's the power of the high ground

@Daan-Dovah

3 жыл бұрын

@@faezerz5861 dont worry he just trains your son with Yoda and beats the shit out of the sith bringing balance to the force

@briangiven7399

3 жыл бұрын

"Aw shit! Here we go again"

I'm almost as hesitant about the concept of Grey Jedi as using the One Ring against Sauron. I do believe the light side isn't really the same as following the Jedi Order though and believe the Jedi at times were flirting with the dark side themselves. A Jedi follows the will of the Force not use it to pursue their own will.

@chrisdeangelismusic

2 жыл бұрын

true but also remember the dark side itself is not inherently evil. the force is the force, whether light or dark. its how you use it that determines good or bad.

This is Outrageous!

@FighterFlash

3 жыл бұрын

Its TREASON then!!!!!!

@wasifiqbal9984

3 жыл бұрын

This if -un- fair.

@re7rogamer254

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Unfair!

Who wouldn’t be jealous of obi wan ? He’s the absolute best !

@ashjose7973

3 жыл бұрын

True

@johnpatrick1857

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashjose7973 lies

@ashjose7973

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnpatrick1857 you don't like Obi wan?

@lesgrosgainz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashjose7973 It's probably Anakin's side account

@ashjose7973

3 жыл бұрын

@@lesgrosgainz interesting theory

The story you are speaking of takes place during the clone wars and Tyris himself fell to the dark side. After he was killed the order, which was more like a heretic order, continued to train and grow. Most of them though would be executed by the empire and specifically it was Vader who sensed only the light side in one of them. Jolee Bindo can be considered someone who was between the dark and the light side . That's because though he left the order he continued to live somehow based on the Jedi way. But in difference with the Jedi, he used and controlled his emotions in order not to fall in the dark side. In conclusion the gray Jedi do not exist in the way that everyone believe they do. Most of these gray orders have failed, though many individuals have managed to live in this balance. But also don't be confused that balance means 50%light and 50% dark. The best example are the Jedi, who themselves acknowledge the existence of the dark side and the way to achieve this balance is through controlling the dark side.

Man Obi-wan is the goat. They better not play with him.

@rally1461

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh I think you're new to Star Wars or too familiar with the current sequels rubbish.

@rally1461

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh I sound dumb? How exactly? Because no one said Obi-wan was better than any other Jedi such as Anakin, Mace, or Yoda. You just insinuated that I did when I literally didn't. What's up with you?

@rally1461

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh A sensitive cyborg that is known to run away from every engagement? Have you watched anything but the current sequels? Try watching some Clone Wars chief.

@Helluvabutl3r

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh Jedi really try not to kill, lol. It’s perhaps the most frustrating thing about them. Kinda like Batman. Like yes, let’s let the “bad guy” live so they can wreak havoc another day. But according to the Jedi Code, Obi would’ve been one of the best. He only struggled when it came to Anakin.

@ayoutubechannel1413

3 жыл бұрын

@Josh He Said Obi Wan Is the Goat, He Didnt Say Obi wan is the most powerful being in existence, Think with your brain, If you have one ,

Obi wan embodied everything the council stood for. And everything the grey jedi hated about the order.

@Helluvabutl3r

3 жыл бұрын

It’s ironic because qui gon was basically a Grey Jedi. Lol he had an odd relationship to obi just like obi did with Anakin

@davidevans7477

3 жыл бұрын

Obi Wan embodied the Jedi ideals, Yoda embodied their reality .. disconnected and willfully ignorant

@andreasballe7470

3 жыл бұрын

@@Helluvabutl3r No he wasn't, Qui Gon compared to the Jedi Order was a Grey Jedi. The true Grey Jedi was Mace Windu.

@christianhinojosa848

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreasballe7470 Mace Windu is probably the polar opposite of a grey Jedi. The Grey Jedi sought actual balance to the force by recognizing the failures of the Jedi Code. Mace used the force as a tool (Sith view) in his fighting style which made him very dangerous BUT this was just a means to further the will of the Jedi Council. Essentially he controlled the force so that it could be left alone.

that is literally the last story I would have ever thought of. I just thought they were made at him because he didn't give into the dark side even a little to kill Anakin which would have been an easy solution to all the universes problems. You know like a "batman just kill the joker" kind of motif. That story was such a turn around.

My favorite part of the video was the minute and a half of merch at the end with royalty free stock music over it. A plug as shameless as that cannot go unnoted.

With some finer editing of audio and how it clips/flows, this would be a masterfully-made discussion piece. Even so, you really did well with this! It was well-researched, and quite engaging and entertaining. Keep it up! :) Perhaps a video on Darth Vectivus? The Sith Lord who was more of a dark-grey jedi.

Its hard to think of Kenobi as an idealist, much less an ideologue or paragon. Think about his deception of Luke regarding his father, and his weasel words trying to justify it. The admirable things about Kenobi had to do with not compromising with temptations or trials and enduring the demands of what he held himself responsible for, no matter what the order was or wasn't doing to the universe. He didn't jettison his morals because of or despite what others did or didn't do or teach. He was an obedient soldier who negotiated as a habit and didn't seek division or dissent. I don't recall Kenobi making any holocrons and if he had a flaw, it was withholding information. I think most viewers of the whole arc know on some level Kenobi made mistakes along the way. Yet he always tried to be.his best self and not abandon what he thought of as good and just. I can't think of him as responsible for the Jedi ills or failings. He just wasn't making policy or curriculum for future generations. He was one master on the council and one general in the war, among others more powerful and controlling than he, in which he trusted.

Grey Jedi: Hates Obi-wan Me: Visible confusion

@vanguardtrainer924

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like someone couldn’t handle the Kenobi style

@luna775

3 жыл бұрын

Its a really bad video, basically talks about dark side users that got click baited as hard as everyone here and says nothing of interest.. its a video of how many times i can say "gray jedi"

He's finally getting the centered series he deserves.

Grey Jedi: "There is no Dark or Light, there is only the Force. I will do what I must to keep balance" Obi-Wan: "I lost everything I have ever cared about, devoted my life to protecting my former apprentice's son, and never once even considered turning to the dark side." Grey Jedi: "RRREEEEEEEEEEE!"

They hated Obi-Wan becausd he was just too damn perfect 😂

Some guy talking in an expert sounding voice: “but could such and such a thing really be (thing there is no hard definition of)”

Video topic: Even though it's relegated to legends, the life's of the Correllian Jedi and their silver blade light saber passed down through family. They could disrupt the flow of energy to the point of turning off others light sabers, and for some reason were not good at telekinesis. These grey Je'di seem to be more aligned with keeping balance in the force, it's unfortunate misinformation can do so much damage.

@Stupendous Wave Please more about the history of *Qui-Gon Jin* ... How did he come about? Who was his master?

Yes... Please make more videos on this subject?

If Yoda was always saying things like “Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering” then how could the Jedi hate one of there own at all ?

Obi-wan Kenobi: Lawful Good Qui-gon Jin: Lawful Neutral Anakin Skywalker: Lawful Evil Jensaarai: Posers. They are just tryharding believing they are Grey Jedi, even though they act more like Fallen Jedi than anything else.

Because he was the perfect Jedi. They hated him cuz they ain’t him.

The obi-wan in the thubnail be like: "Before you buy!"

Uh..I’m pretty sure hate isn’t in the grey Jedi’s agenda I’m pretty sure you mean frustrated and convoluted over obi wans ability to resist the dark side after losing so much. Hate is the wrong choice of words for this as the grey jedi are void of hate and emotion, they are driven to bring balance with both sides but having hate towards another is not something they do.

HELLO THERE

@crossedrecord9252

3 жыл бұрын

General kenobi. YOU ARE A BOLD ONE

@faezerz5861

3 жыл бұрын

I do not know you.

"Grandmaster yoda" "Hmmmm Niko betray your people you have but go bowling we must"

Yess! More knowledge about Jensaarai pls and always ty for the great content

Speaking of Jensaarai... Jensaarai One is a Awesome KZreadr as well when it come to Star Wars

'grey jedi' is one of those concepts I used to like, but increasingly don't think it really fits with SW. You can't just-the-tip the dark side - that's kind of the entire point behind the jedi's light side dogmatism. This same idea is also repeated by the Sith in the other direction, describing the dark side as an addiction that can't be sated.

@Skywalker8510Too

Жыл бұрын

But it kinda shows how powerful you would have to be to play around with the dark side and still stay in the light.

Amazing, this to me feeds my Star Wars Quest for Knowledge 🎓

Where is some of this b-roll from? They clips of the sith and whatnot. I dont recognize that from any show or movie?

The Jensaarai were written as an attempt to have an alternate Force storyline rather than be stuck with either side of the spectrum. It was done poorly and like other attempts at making "grey" Jedi it ignored the fact that you can't use both sides equally or you will fall down the Dark side rabbit hole very quickly. Even Windu barely touching the Dark side was a very risky thing. In all cases it always ends up with the "greys" being using Light side powers and Light side ideals but saying they're bringing "balance". in this case the writer came up with the idea the Jedi created the Sith even though this subject had already been touched on and they were hoping to make a name for themselves. That's one of the issues with the EU. The writers kept trying to outdo each other so they could be the next Timothy Zahn with the same recognition. Unfortunately things really started to get out of hand. People remember the good book out of the EU but keep forgetting that the number or craptastic book really outnumbered those.

Obi Wan brought balance to the force by watching over Luke and training him

I love how your editing cuts off the ends of words

My understanding of the force is that there really isn't room for "grey jedi". If you draw on the dark side enough times, you will end up corrupted and far from the light. Its the nature of the force, so that this many are able to balance without falling isn't feasible. If it was, the Jedi wouldn't be that worry about members straying a little bit.

So Luke, in the EU, succeeded, where this gray fellow failed, in amalgamating the Jedi and Sith knowledge(and whatever else on Force knowledge and teachings he could find), when Luke made his, EU version, New Jedi Order. Basically, never underestimate the Skywalker bloodline(unless you take the high ground☺).

The first 40 seconds is exactly what I've been thinking for a minute. It seems the Jedi create their own failure and basically create or are the reason the sith are what they are

Might wanna install some noise panels & a mic sock

There is a slant to this viewpoint, it is just as easy to state that the jedi were quarantining darkside knowledge (just as we keep sample of deadly diseases). Its not as if dark side texts were available to nearly any Jedi at all and that those given access had to go through pretty much the highest channels. Plo-koon had to get the full councils permission to do his research on Electric Judgement which isn't technically a dark side ability.

Damn straight Obi Wan is the perfect Jedi master

It’s sad that grey Jedi aren’t cannon

@TheVocalTune

3 жыл бұрын

Major potential lost right there.

@davidchicoine6949

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheVocalTune not really its gaming stuff you cant be jedi if you are grey ... They should say force user without affliation

@christophersalinas2722

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidchicoine6949 that’s not why are they called grey Jedi. They believe there is no dark or light. They use all of the force. The reason they aren’t “grey sith” is because they follow jedi morals.

@beni2cc

3 жыл бұрын

Technically Ahsoka is a "grey jedi"

@akarcher5417

3 жыл бұрын

@@beni2cc no ahsoka is purely light side because of the daughters sacrifice on mortis so just unafilliated light side user

Those grey jedi sound like flat earthers. They could feel the force, but they chose to hold on very specific traits of information with very questionable source and didn't pay attention the unbalance in the Force. If they did, they could have notice the fluctuations as the sides changed. But they were so deep into the rabbit hole (dark side) that they blind themselves to facts that for everyone else would have been freaking obvious.

So the Jensaarai was really Generation Tech? Where do I sign up?

The Grey jedi weren't completely off base. It's was the Jedi's absolution that caused the schism. This idea that their way of accessing the force was the only acceptable way. It's funny they always talk about balance. But balance is the middle ground between opposition, not the destruction of one by the other. Both the sith and Jedi both sought dominance, not balance.

Jedi are like christians. Sith are like spiritual christians that play with other ideas. From my perspective. Lol

@Kryynism

3 жыл бұрын

@Lawrence Thakurdeen It was a joke based on mainstream Christianity only. Not those that truly care. Christianity has become a product to be sold, shallow, cheap. Real christians are legit good folks. Raised baptist, went atheist, then Torah observant Christian, now just a fuckup christian. I know the faith well. My comment was in bad taste but it is truthful in ways.

This Nikko Reminds me of the Nikko Style that’s talked about in Kengan Ashura.... about the flow of power.

Ummmm...with relation to the Jensaarai, there was a completely different reason they hated Obi-Wan. Since nearly everything in Legends about the Jensaarai comes from I, Jedi which is one of my favorite Star Wars novels (and Corran Horn one of my favorite EU characters), I can say there was a far more direct reason. In I, Jedi, the leaders of the Jensaarai bought Sith teachings from an archeologist who scavenged them from temples on Yavin 4. They learned from these teachings and succumbed to the Dark Side. Near the end of the Clone Wars (the book actually says after the the Clone Wars, but the movie portrayals makes that impossible since they ended with Order 66), a small Jedi strike team composed of Ylenic It'kla (from whose POV Corran learns about the encounter through his nephew, Elegos), Corran's grandfather Neeja Halcyon, and a Jedi Ylenic only identified by his scent as "Desertwind", confront the now Dark Side acolytes and attempt to convince them to re-join the Light. A fight ensues, and each Jedi squares off with a Jensaarai master. The Jedi are ultimately victorious, with only Nejaa dying to Nikkos Tyris, but the strike crippled the remaining Jensaarai who hid from the Jedi. While Desertwind is not explicitly named as Obi-Wan, Desertwind's lightsaber skill and rank in the Jedi Order implies he was a very powerful Jedi, and he personally helped slay the then masters of the Jensaarai order...in a way, making him their "Darth Vader". Also, early on in Legends canon, Obi-Wan's home world was thought to be Tatooine, more directly lending him this scent. This was later changed of course, but at the time this was so.

I swear if someone says Grey Jedi one more time, I will actually cry.

@rbarnes4076

3 жыл бұрын

ok.. 'Grey Jedi'.

@kannonball5789

3 жыл бұрын

_Sends audio file of me saying gray jedi_

Sounds like they’re just off brand sith to me

Not exactly a false statement because at one point in time the Jedi did study both the dark and light and believed in balance in the force but that was the original jedi order.

The Sith code is not any more evil than the Jedi code. It’s the interpretation of the text that varies so greatly.

it seems that this organization were falling to the dark side bit by bit because eventually some grey jedi's will fall to the dark side due to there teachings. I think they were at least first a grey jedi perhaps but they rapidly were consumed by the dark side. I know they didn't join the sith but they really wanted them to win. A grey jedi must be someone studying both the light and the dark side but not to be consumed by neither of them just simply balance and never mixing the two.

Why almost everyone hated Obi-Wan: He always had the high ground

As far as I'm concerned what makes a grey Jedi is a force user who is not allied with either. There are many beings in the Galaxy in cannon and in legends especially, who are strong force wielders but have nothing to do with the jedi vs sith or empire vs republic

Felt like I was playing Sims 3 at the end....that music🤣🤣

The term "grey Jedi" isn't actually a thing in the Star wars universe its just a fan made title

They, like the sith, were super jelly of Obi's skills with the ladies. For example, Obi is Padme's true baby daddy. Fact. Canon. Book it.

What are those animated clips from? Not the clone wars ones

At 3:24 when you said "he began to walk down the path of the dark side" I really wish you used the "Ironic" clip

They hated Jesus coz he told them the truth!

@aydenbelcourt6035

3 жыл бұрын

You got that right wisdom has more value then knowledge if people knew what we gave up for knowledge they would call us stupid.

If Rey's arc made her a Jensaarai her Palpatine descent would've made sense and TROS could've been more than just fan service

Nice. Love how you mostly put 3/4th of starwars the last republic in this. ;)

While you at it do a video topic of what did the Jensaarai think of Luke Skywalker and his new jedi order what they thought about the knight of Ren please

The commentary on this video makes me think this person had a report due with 3 thousand word minimum.

@iancox7483

3 жыл бұрын

That's all of his videos

@luna775

3 жыл бұрын

Its a really bad video, basically talks about dark side users that got click baited as hard as everyone here and says nothing of interest

It feels like you repeat the same videos with just a wording change.

Where does the video he's using come from?

Short answer : Because they thought the Jedi were evil and Obi Wan was described as the perfect Jedi master