"Your arrogance blinds you" Greatest quote in star wars history (even though its not the full quote). Certainly applied to this fight.

@pwcgp2199

10 ай бұрын

Not the greatest but the hardest hitting is by far “you were my brother anakin” makes me cry everytime

@originalSiiiN

8 ай бұрын

"...Master Yoda."

I've lost track of how many times people have referred to Obi-Wan Kenobi as the perfect Jedi. Everything about his fighting style, his approach even to warfare, even to the woman he loved, was all overshadowed by his commitment to the Jedi order and the force itself.

@SingleTax

Жыл бұрын

I keep hearing in clips like this that Obi-Wan's midi-chlorian was below average when compared to other Jedi Knights, yet all the research I've done via google has yielded claim after claim that it was actually above average (if only slightly).

@Aerol-xd7ol

Жыл бұрын

You made all the shit you said up. There is no briefing report it’s all people making stuff up. I’ve read every Star Wars book and not one say anything.. your full of shit.

@haywoodj

Жыл бұрын

R.I.P Satine. Obi Wan so loved that broad.

@christopheraaron8299

Жыл бұрын

Some might argue that his ability to separate himself from his emotional attachments is a trait of a sociopath.

@DaKaNgZ6

Жыл бұрын

Obi wan was an underrated jedi but not a great jedi. He actually used darkside abilities to defeat anakin

I think the real trick was him saying "It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground." Obi-Wan knew him very well and was aware of his arrogance. He knew that he could be goaded into a disadvantageous position because Anakin/Vader would take the bait without caring about the odds.

@RaphBlade7

Жыл бұрын

I personally like to think it was a warning, I have the high ground, I know what your planning & if you follow through, I am prepared to strike you down! I like to think he was still acting like a mentor, but knew Anakin too well & thus struck him down when Anakin jumped in an attempt to defeat Obi-Wan the way Obi-Wan bestes Maul on Naboo!

@ianmatthews7385

Жыл бұрын

@@RaphBlade7 yea agreed, that was coming from a place of love and he was pleading to Anakin to chose the light but he chose the dark side.

@eatmorenachos

Жыл бұрын

@@ianmatthews7385 I agree. Obi-Wan was basically saying "don't make me kill you, man!" It was a warning that Anakin was likely to ignore, but Obi-Wan was still trying to save what was left of his friend.

@frankdees507

Жыл бұрын

Obiwan was not baiting Anakin into a deadly decision. He truly wanted Anakin to reconsider his decision, and be wiser than the things he’d done

@texasgent4694

Жыл бұрын

​@@RaphBlade7 Yeah I totally agree you could hear the sorrow in Obi-Wan's voice when He said "Don't try it" because He knew what Anakin/Vader was about to do and that there was ZERO chance that He could pull it off, sadly Anakin/Vader was too drunk off the Dark Side Of The Force and His own arrogance to think rationally

So I’ve never seen anyone mention this but I always thought the “ high ground “ reference was a kinda play on how Obi Wan defeats Darth Maul. I always felt like it was something of a highlight moment in Anakin”s perception of Obi Wan and how a little brother might try to use a moment of triumph of their older brother as a stepping stone to show how they have surpassed them. It seemed to me that Anakin was going to beat Obi Wan in a similar fashion to how Obi Wan defeated the one who defeated his master Qui Gon Jinn . Just a thought

@Samtino20

Жыл бұрын

I have heard this to also be true and it makes loads of sense

@Emolokz

Жыл бұрын

I've seen it mentioned specifically before.

@alexbanks8429

22 күн бұрын

Watch the Pitch Meeting episode about that movie. You are right, but not nearly the first to have thought of it.

Everyone including obi wan himself always down plays his skills with a lightsaber

@B3an01

Жыл бұрын

Well he still was inferior to anakin if we looked at it on paper stats wise

@sorin_markov

Жыл бұрын

Idk about that. Many people revered Obi-Wan for his skill at Soresu. He's known as the master of it, the best at Soresu in the history of the Jedi order.

@face4682

Жыл бұрын

I think that was because he used a strictly defensive form; he probably felt inferior to other Jedi that used offensive forms.🤷🏿

@taetrrtot6205

Жыл бұрын

@@B3an01 Yeah but stats are theoretical and don't tell whole story. Practically, Obi Wan is top 5 of his era at least

@taetrrtot6205

Жыл бұрын

@@sorin_markov People considered him THE master of Soresu but never respected him as one of the best duelists with the likes of Anakin, Mace, Dooku, and Yoda. Not saying he's as strong as them but he's in that tier

Midichlorian counts only point to POTENTIAL. So Anakin was POTENTIALLY far stronger than Obi Wan. But during that battle they were evenly matched. Because it's not like Anakin had spent hours working on his force abilities. He was a SWORDSMAN and BOTH of them had been shaped, and sharpened by constant fighting during the Clone Wars side by side. Also, Obi Wan had a master who always told him to stay in the moment, to be mindful of the living force so he was perfectly in tune with it during the fight. But Anakin foolishly and arrogantly saw Obi Wan and the Jedi as "weak" and Kenobi's style as purely defensive, which it was - BUT - Anakin's rage and his desire to kill his former master blinded him to the fact that Obi Wan himself had literally come to Mustafar with one goal in mind, to END ANAKIN'S LIFE. Obi Wan doesn't get enough credit. I can't think of any Jedi of his era who can say that he'd defeated two Sith Lords, then beat one and killed the other in the rematches. He also took out Grievous who was a Jedi-killing beast of a cyborg whose tech allowed him to move faster than the eye could see and faster than any Jedi according to the ROTS novel. Obi Wan was NOT a dude than any SMART Dark Sider should take lightly in any way.

@WolfGuardian495

Жыл бұрын

As I have said before people often forget that Obi Wan's original form was 4 which is very aggressive so he can go on the offense. Look at the Kenobi show.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

Obi Wan also almost turned to the Dark Side had he fully embraced his rage at Anakin at betraying the Order. Midbattle Obi Wan changes his battle strategy, lets the Force flow through him, and ultimately teaches the arrogant never listens to his Master student a much needed lesson in a total Self Preservation moment. Obi Wan basically PLEADS with Anakin NOT to make him a multiple amputee. The drunk with new power Vader ignores it, and gets SCHOOLED af while Obi Wan retaining his humility mourns that he had to DO WHAT HE SAID, and what he MUST at the decision of Vader-kin. Epic, poetic, and it was Obi Wan who passed his Jedi test that day, Anakin only learned he wasn't as kick@$$ as he imagined himself to be and still had 💩 to learn. I'll tale the guy who in the momemnt learns his lesson, than the one who still is bitter about it 15 yrs later on the Death Star any day. And still proclaiming he's the Master. 🤣

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

Most of all Master will never appky to Lord Vader NOR to Anakin Skywalker Jedi, because HE ISN'T and was butthurt he WASN'T given a title he NEVER EARNS through EITHER Sith or Jedi Order. Never the Master ONLY EVER THE APPRENTICE

@codymaciel7203

Жыл бұрын

Anakin is much stronger in the force. If he was smart he would have picked up obi wan and dunked him into the lava or instead of jumping have force pulled obi wan into his blade. He just had an obsession with proving he was better with a light saber

@raymarshall7779

Жыл бұрын

No thry were not equal annikan was stronger . But that does not make the him the more skilled .....and that his skills were not Taylor made to fight against him

Obi is a master of low ground. Defeats maul when he is way below. Defeats anakin when he jumps above him.

@nimblehealer199

Жыл бұрын

Obi Wan beat Maul because Maul was very arrogant.

I think Obi Wan did not fully let go of Anakin until his second to last duel with Vader in the Obi Wan TV series. Before that, Obi Wan did not know that Anakin/ Darth Vader survived Mustafar until the TV series began, he did let go then but not fully enough. When Obi Wan learned that Vader survived, those feelings of attachment and emotions during duel on Mustafar (you mentioned) just reignite again and return. In the Obi Wan TV series duel, that was a emotional duel because Obi Wan presented the same emotions that he had during Mustafar if not less. When Obi Wan said "Goodbye...Darth", that can be argued he has let go of Anakin for good. By the time of their final duel on the Death Star, Obi Wan has already long accepted Anakin is gone for good and no attachment to Vader anymore.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

The best part is that the actual Master on The Death Star in A New Hope has the satisfaction of knowing NOT ONLY has allowing the Force to flow through him in that second duel, and the simple I'm your teacher and no matter how arrogant you are if you make me defend myself and make you be a triple amputee my rage that almost pushed me to the Dark Side for you murdering and betraying the order is past, I'm still gonna teach you a lesson if WHEN I SAY LISTEN, LISTEN... EPIC Mustafar begging, please don't make me make you an amputee. Priceless. But YES, by the time it comes to A New Hope Kenobi gets the satisfaction of smirking when Anakin/Vader refers to himself as a Master. 🤣 which Kenobi knows NOT only did Vader never earn that title in Jedi Order, but even after doing Palpatine's bidding and stooging for nearly 2 decades the pathetic wannabe was still trying to claim himself higher than even the Sith esteemed him either. Always the whiny bitchboy apprentice NEVER the Master.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

To be clear you don't become a Sith Master when you die in the same process of killing your master amd by canon now failing at the attempt. Just sayin

@akdele5

Жыл бұрын

obi wan tv series is shit tbh

@pwcgp2199

10 ай бұрын

Great point. He definitely didn’t really “let go” because he showed a lot of emotion in their second duel. But in their third and final duel he had no attachment to him at all

They knew each other’s style too well due to sparring with each other all the time. The novel of ROTS is one of my favorite SW reads, and ROTS my favorite SW movie.

@face4682

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, though I've never read the novel, all of the reviews I've heard about it have been very good!

@offworlder1

Жыл бұрын

@@face4682 If you can find it buy it, I know back in the ancient times of 2005 that the novel got praised by a few places and picked up a copy but did not read it for 10 years. When I did finally read it I was very happy that I purchased it when I did as the book gave so much insight to all the characters, fleshed out others, and showed much deeper details on the many battles. ROTS also had some great games on both console and portable so yeah it was all it boosted to be and more.

@SKYWALKER.1188

Жыл бұрын

​@offworlder1348 you could get on Google play books. I bought the audio book there

Darth sidious also stated that kenobi did his best lightsaber duel performance ever because he saw anakin as an Armageddon to the galaxy and a sith . Obi wans goal from the beginning of his training was to destroy the sith so this was the time he didnt held back and broke jedi rules

Kenobi fights with intelligence. Anakin fights with brute force.

@eatmorenachos

Жыл бұрын

Brute force and anger.

I have always had thought that diffrence between Jedi and Sith in combat is that Jedi goes in battle with clear goal in mind, when Sith other hand crave combat and enjoy it thus having feelings and emotions in play.

@face4682

Жыл бұрын

Very good point. I believe that is the reason Sith were considered better fighters than Jedi. Anger is the prevalent emotion displayed when fighting, and that is an advantage to the Sith in a fight.

@matthewnegron1465

Жыл бұрын

Trust only in the force. Keep your cup full, but not overflowing.

@Sketchymage

Жыл бұрын

I think you are mistaken. Jedi are fully capable of enjoying and even lusting after battle. The clarity of mind you speak of is also present in Sith combatants. Consider perhaps Mace Windu and Darth Sideous as examples of each.

@Juhnimus

Жыл бұрын

@@Sketchymage Well Darth Sidious actually hates lighsabers and he fights only when forced to, so he cant be compared to your average Sith, he has actually lot of qualities of Jedi. Mace Windu sure enjoys combat sure but manages to still keep his focus without letting his anger or hatred for enemy to prevail and that's why he is so strong Jedi.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

That's why Obi Wan almost lost himself and fell to the Dark Side. Mid battle he realized his OWN connections to Anakin were clouding his thinking, especially knowing Anakin/Vader had annihilated the Order and everything that he had devoted his life to.

To me this just says that Obi-Wan always knew how to keep himself in a good head space while in a lightsaber duel.

The only reason Obi Wan bested Anakin is that he used forbidden pocket sand. As Anakin did his flip over him he flicked a hand full of pocket sand that he had kept on him just incase Anakin ever got out of hand. With out the pocket sand Anakin would have sliced Obi Wan in half . Or what you said works too.

@LinkMaster5555

Жыл бұрын

Love this comment

@JQUE94

Жыл бұрын

Lmao Urban X TV?

@willvgo2950

Жыл бұрын

Sheppard carried a lemon to use if McKay ever got out of hand in Stargate: Atlantis.

@literallyanangrymoose7717

Жыл бұрын

Pocket Sand and the High Ground... hecl of a combo

@stevedenis8292

Жыл бұрын

@@literallyanangrymoose7717 Level or low ground the pocket sand would be the deciding factor.

They should make an alternate timeline where Darth Vader defeats Obi-Wan, gets fully trained in the dark side by Sidious and has a battle between a full powered Sidious vs a full powered Anakin. That revenge of the Sith alternate game ending is wrong because Anakin wanted Sidious to teach him the ways of the darkside so he could save Padmé. So it would be a cool thing to see. A sort of alternate scenario that could be seen in one of the mirrors in the world between worlds

@SKYWALKER.1188

Жыл бұрын

I've been thinking roughly the same thing for quite sometime. That would be epic

@Samtino20

Жыл бұрын

the whole problem was palp didnt tell anakin in order to save her he would have to sacrifice someone else to get that

@Tuturial464

2 ай бұрын

There were many alternatives timeliness that could be made like different universes. Might as well cause Disney ruins stuff

The reason he was able to beat anakin was because he had the high ground

@dariushlarijani8083

Жыл бұрын

the real reason is the lava on Mustafar

@xanatoselite6078

Жыл бұрын

Nah because he is obi wan kenobi 😂😂😂

@dariushlarijani8083

Жыл бұрын

@@xanatoselite6078 explain that to kit fesko.

@paytonwirtjes523

Жыл бұрын

He goaded anikan into beating obi wan with his own move, how he defeated maul was the same situation, but obi wan knew what maul should have done. He ego challenged anikan and he took the bait

@face4682

Жыл бұрын

I don't think the high ground is the reason Anaikin lost; his skills were too good for that. I believe it was a combination of Anaikin's arrogance, Obi Wan's mastery of the defensive form, and the will of the Force. Everyone seems to forget that the will of the Force will ALWAYS prevail! Though Anaikin was the Chosen One, he still had to succumb to the will of the Force. Although Sith are known to bend the will of the Force for their needs, eventually the Force will win.

In the Novel Obi Wan let go, of himself to be one with the force when he fought Grievous. He learnt that in this moment.

Obi wan is the living embodiment of Hard work always beats talent. Anakin/Vader is more superior but ego and cockiness and over confidence will lead you to destruction no matter how talented or you have potential among the rest of most people.

@ronjones2266

6 күн бұрын

Just like a lot of professional athletes.

Obi wan Kenobi is an example of someone who just keeps at it until they become a master. They might not have the most natural talent, and they struggle more along the way, but just due to sheer will and training they become amazing at something. Also Kenobi had a strong connection to the force despite having a low midi-chlorian count because he had faith in himself and in the Jedi in general and the shock of Anakin falling to the dark side set him into a determination. And even when they fought he still loved his friend. Which I think Anakin can sense so that's why Kenobi is able to beat him in fights because Vader's weakness is memories of the love he had for his friends etc... If vader is cold and full of rage then he's unbeatable. And in the new show when Obi Wan Kenobi says I'm sorry for all of it. I think Anakin really had a cathartic moment with his old friend. But he tried to cover it up with the psychopathic "I killed anakin skywalker" which just shows how depressed and full of rage he is over killing Padme.

I've wondered about this. Why couldn't Obi Wan just force push Anakin down into the lava after he cut off of limbs?

@ericolsen5592

Жыл бұрын

He could have but it seems like he didn't want to in the moment

@Kazanko28

Жыл бұрын

He could have, but if he wasn't going to walk down there and end it quick with his lightsaber, force pushing him into the lava would seem kind of cruel and lazy.

@ThePantafernando

2 ай бұрын

Obi Wan won because that was the will of the Force, what gave him enough strength to beat Anakin. So its also because the will of the Force that Anakin was spared and lived to become Darth Vader.

We all know that you can never underestimate… The High Ground.

7:48 yeah, Obi-Wan is looking really calm just there. Really detached.

Obi-Wan used focus and cleared his mind as much as possible. It allowed him to calculate and treat the duel like a chess match. He was one step ahead of Anikin the whole time and I think he planned the final blow. He has proven that he uses cunning throughout the clone wars where as Anikin often ran into situations brashly.

The fact Obi wan came out on top while not having the same power as Anakin, says a lot about his saber skills.

I belive that, that was the point when Obi-Wan Kenobi became one with the living force. Not the over all force like Yoda had. I say this knowing this response will open a whole nother conversation. But it is the only thing that makes since. His master always told him to be mindful of the living force and to keep his mind in the here and now.

@7632ios

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Kenobi’s power comes from being completely open to the force. And the force can do anything... besides saving Anakin.

This reminds me on how Darth Maul beat Qui-Gon Jin. Maul did something totally unexpected and hit Qui-Gon with the hilt of his blade. This unexpected maneuver was enough to get the killing blow. These duels remind us that being unpredictable is the greatest advantage in a duel.

Where do you get the fact that Obi Wan had a much lower midichlorian count. One, I've never seen an official list. Two, any list that's created has him in the top 10 of Jedi with midichlorian. If you're referring to the novel Master and Apprentice, there was no mention of his levels there, either. He did have trouble connecting to the Force for a while but overcome that and progressed nicely. Obi Wan was one of the more powerful Force users amongst the Jedi of his time and one of the premier duelist of all time.

I look forward to these every day. Thank you.

The boy that Obi Wan said, "Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic life form"

Awesome video! This was an amazing analysis!

@TheStupendousWave

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support 🙏🏻

My awesome dude this is one of the best for years I have ever seen and you tell specific accurate details that you drew my breath away. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

this will always be one of the saddest fights for me *sniff*

Obi Wan is insanely strong, patient and disciplined. There should be no surprise he won honestly.

@Lee___H

Жыл бұрын

There's no surprise to anyone that understands obiwan correctly Too many Anakin/vader fan boys think just because anakins potential was overall higher it means it was at the time of the fight but they are wrong

Anakin was always emotionally unstable. Even as Vader he was still very much emotionally unstable, so with every interaction with Obi Wan it brought out the padawan Anakin in Vader subconsciously

You should do a fallen warrior arc explaining how the injuries and experiences of the likes of darth vader, krayt and malgus influence their abilities especially corncerning their connection to the force. Also a segment of the abilities of old ben kenobi like how his lightsaber style changed and anya kuro aka the darkwomen.

Obi-Wan planted a thought in Anakin's mind. If that lava cooled, much of it would have been sand.

@originalSiiiN

8 ай бұрын

😂😂

I think if Obi Wan really wanted, he could’ve killed Vader. He had enough time to pour out his emotions to him one final time. Obi Wan may have separated himself from his attachments, but that doesn’t mean they were gone. Signs what the Jedi initially missed

@andrewmcmurray8081

Жыл бұрын

Force push him into the lava, done.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

But he couldn't, if he had killed him that day the Force wouldn't have been in it. Either Kenobi would be going for revenge, and he'd himself be falling to the Dark Side. He INSTEAD taught one last lesson as a Master to his student, when he begs Anakin not to jump it's a full out self-preservation IF you make the choice to come at me I will make you a multiple amputee. End of story. The ever arrogant never listening to guidance Anakin does it anyways. EPIC. He couldn't kill Anakin. He left him for the Force/nature to handle lying on the dge of a volcanic river believing THAT would handle it. And fittingly if it had because after everything the Jedi had done for Anakin over the years in truth, yep him suffering an agonizing death after there betrayal would be The Way of the Force-so NO Jedi would have to strike that blow. Plus did Anakin at that point deserve any kind of Mercy blow? Like really? Ya sorry but I fail to think ANY Jedi would be like yep you killed our order but here we'll kindly put you out of misery you brought on all of us. Yep This is NOT the way of the Force you're looking for. So ya he didn't have to kill Vader. He PROVED his point on the field of battle, the arrogant upstart betrayer was a cocky failure of what he'd been gramted opportunity to mold himself differently and had destroyed the order. No honor, no respect, doesn't really garner much of the same in return. And the Order not emcouraging attachments DOESN'T mean the same as the implicit concept of existence that one will develop attachments to those around them. I mean really? Yoda was devastated when he realized months before Order 66 that in order to save the Jedi he must NOT let them in on the coming massacre. Yet somehow you don't think the pain of the deaths of all the Jedi at Order 66 wasn't felt by the other's BECAUSE of attachment? Having attachments isn't the same as letting those attachments overpower your duty and honor. Soldiers have families, they still have to go out and kill other people they have never met with families. Knowing they are making widows and orphans. Get it? It's ludicrous to pretend that discouraging attachments means no Jedi had any when they themselves are eachothers by definition 🤣 The key is HOW one holds attachments and when do they become harmful or not beneficial.

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmcmurray8081 while I agree it would have been easy it would have made Kenobi the Dark side.

@T1Top

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmcmurray8081 It wouldn't work, The prophecy says he will and would bring balance to the force, The force would just bring him back for anakin to complete him mission into bringing balance to the force and destroying the sith. OW wouldn't be able to completely kill him in lava or anything as he will just return

Kenobi controlles his emotions unlike Anakin and that is the kye part in battle.

You've come such a long way bro. Great to see the improvement in the channel and you, that's what it's all about!! Love this fucking channel!!

I for one am so sick & tired of Obi-Wan getting the blame for Anakin's turning. everyone in the S.W. universe seem to lay the blame for Anakin turning to Sidious & the Dark Side on Obi-Wan - when Anakin was a Jedi Knight no longer Obi-Wan's Padawan & Anakin was a grown man. It peeved me how in the Obi-Wan series Reva yelled that at Obi-Wan when he was literally falling to his own death. Anakin made a choice - a choice that damned the Republic & the Jedi. It had nothing to do with Obi--Wan who was guilted into training Anakin by a dying Qui-Gon who knew how to manipulate his apprentice aka Obi-Wan into doing what we all know as the most stupidest thing as Obi-Wan was not prepared to take an apprentice when he was so young & green.

@Tuturial464

2 ай бұрын

Still the jedi order were not mental therapists.

DUDE!!!!!! I just got this!! Ok so Anakin is Kobra Kia & Johnny Lawrence where Obi Wan is miyagi do & Daniel Laruso

Being calm and collected will often times lead to a victory. But its not always easy because of emotions which we all have.

Please make a video of Princess Lea she knows the force somewhat. I like how you gave reasoning to Obi Won's being calm and collected so this video is a 8.5/10.

I think Luke's belief that the Jedi are always, or at least usually, better lightsaber duelists is consistent with other SW lore. In particular, Darth Sidious believed the Sith had outgrown lightsabers, and considered them to only be Jedi weapons. Even in his final duel with Yoda, he knew that he wouldn't win a lightsaber fight with the grand master, and used his superior force abilities instead.

@MegaParrotMan

8 ай бұрын

Dooku and Ventress did well enough didn’t they?

This was a great breakdown. I see for both duelists it was very personal

That's just... beautiful.

Very good explanation - a rare gem, a giant thanks to the author!!!I really have scene so deep spiritual/religious analysis VERY rare

#1. Anakin / Vader was new to the dark side and didn't have a full grip on it yet . #2 . Anakin / Vader was a little bit conflicted . #3. Kenobi used a forbidden move .

@chrisstowell484

Жыл бұрын

Wha??? Anakin still never was a Master, when he claims to be in a New Hope Kenobi rightfully smirks because neither Jedi NOR Sith will ever refer to him as that. Even after he betrayed and massacred one to get the title. 🤣 Vader was always conflicted. So was Obi Wan almost turned Dark Side if he'd won on Mustafar by anything other than self defense. He BEGS Anakin the arrogant never listens to orders student NOT to make him make him an amputee. The headstrong drunk with new power student says WHAT? Ya. Conflicted isn't an excuse. Yoda had to kill his best friend during the clone wars for simply NOT wanting to side with Seperatists OR the Republic and Dooku forced NO option. To where Yoda's best friend begs him to do it. Conflicted? Come on man that's what moral quandary is and exists FOR in Life AND ART. Not an argument of validity to prove one's view. Sorry. But good try. Kenobi used a forbidden move? 🤣 So massacre entire planets isn't a forbidden move? Really? Are we even having this conversation? Like gee, war and battles are always by the rules? 🤣 How about Sun Tzu the Art of War, you meet your enemy on the battlefield THEY choose, on THEIR terms if you have any intent to win. Be just as much tHEM as they are, just as fierce or brutal, but above all, use your greatest weapon BRAINS to win... Don't pretend for a moment that the world will truly get through to Islamic terrorists by locking them up for a decade or so and expecting peace to win out. Until we fight on THEIR same terms THEY won't recognize the lesson. So pretending that those with NO honor or code will somehow be ethical or live to a code is farcical. But pretending some rule overpowers self preservation? ROFLMAO. Sorry but Lightsabers either stab or slice causing amputation. While maiming isnt the goal because putting an enemy down is, doesn't make Anakin chosing to force Anakin to teach him a brutal lesson Kenobis bad. Sorry, real world we have self defense laws and even stand your ground laws in some places that says screw that nonsense. So forbidden move? 🤣 LOL sorry when you kill my whole order that made those rules the rules are kind of NOT the rules any more BUD. Come on. You're desperately making excuses for the always an apprentice NEVER a Master. The ultimate pathetic actuallys since he killed one order out of being pissed that they weren't elevating him to that level and joins the one order where he doesn't move up til he's already dying. 🤣

@evanater970

Жыл бұрын

Obi wans just better at this

@LordReedson12

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisstowell484 wat Darth Vader do to you to hate him so much HE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. come down bud

@DFX4509B

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisstowell484 Isn't Legends Vader almost godlike in terms of power scale though, IIRC?

I have so many questions: Why didn't Anakin use force lighting? Why didn't Anakin use the force to push hot lava on Obi-Wan? How come Darth Mal didn't cut off Obi-Wan's limbs @ the end of their duel like Obi-Wan did Anakin? Why didn't Anakin force choke Obi-Wan? Why didn't Anakin force throw any of the backdrop equipment on Mustafar @ Obi-Wan? For someone who powers where growing so rapidly he sure didn't use them...

truly is a story of tragedy. Obi-Wan was forced to cut down his brother, he really had no other option

Obi-Wan defeated Anakin because he was a MASTER. Anakin was only an apprentice. He still is. He went from being the apprentice of Obi-Wan, to being the apprentice of Palpatine/Sidious.

He had the highground

He was at ease with the force

All through the fight Obiwan is aware of is surroundings, finding space, getting to points where he cannot be overwhelmed or flanked etc etc, this gave him an edge over anikan who was full attack mode

Anakin’s emotions cause him to lose to Obi wan. That’s literally the only answer. Nobody was better than Anakin with a lightsaber except maybe Yoda

Somewhat amusingly, in the Revenge of the Sith novelisation it implies that Obi-Wan severing Anakin's limbs may have been an accident. "Anakin snarled a curse as he realised he'd been suckered, and leapt off his droid at Obi-Wan's back--- Half a second too slow. Obi-Wan's whirl to parry didn't meet Anakin's blade. It met his knee. Then his other knee. And while Anakin was still in the air, burned-off lower legs only starting their topple down the cliff, Obi-Wan's recovery to guard brought his blade through Anakin's left arm above the elbow. He stepped back as Anakin fell" Either way, he certainly didn't plan it that way. The Force may have planned it that way though, and Obi-Wan just let it work through him

Obiwan was so orthodox he probably just trained in form 1 until everyone thought it was form 5

There isn't enough physical/acting evidence that Anakin was tiring out in ROTS... But his arrogance in that moment, and wanting to end it right there might have been his hail mary to finish things by any means necessary... Even to the point of reason (of trying that move vs high ground) against one of the greatest, if not greatest Jedi's of all time. I think arrogance was his biggest downfall. Not fatigue. I think Anakin had more than enough in the gas tank to go as long as needed. In the Kenobi Series, in the training montage, I think they were alluding that Anakin's offensive brute style could very well beat Obi Wan straight up... But it was the cleverness + fight IQ that gave the Master his advantage.

He had the high ground. That's all we need to know.

He was focused and concentrated; Anakin was emotional.

"Experience and guile will always defeat youthful exuberance."

Man why'd you have to post this video knowing the emotional damage it will do to us 😭 you are just making this even more emotional than it already is 😭😭

General kenobi, you're a bold one.

Obiwan knew in terms in power Anakin had him beat but his use in form 3 compensated for it he needed to fight smart if he wanted to win.

i think the biggest takeaway from this breakdown is not that jedi will always be better duelists, but rather any force user will always be at their peak potential when they drop sides and simply give in to the will of the force. the same reason why palpatine feared qui gon jinn! he viewed qui gon as the most dangerous outside of yoda because he knew when it came down to it qui gon would bend the rules and always do what the force willed.

HE HAD THE HIGH GROUND! *roll credits*

Obi-Wan: I cannot do this. Anakin is my brother... Elsa: Let it Go

High ground man, high ground.

This is the way

This is a great analysis. I only wish this were textual in the movie. The prequels needed a good script doctor, and some secondary non-jedi characters to help humanise the impact of the war.

Maybe, if Obi-wan went in for the kiss when the lightsabers were deadlocked, the galaxy would have lived happily ever after.

It's always the high ground

My girlfriend have this interesting theory. Anakin was good in improvising during fights and often do something crazy which caught his oponent of guard and make him lose. But Obi-wan did knew Anakin more then anyone and was exactly prepared for it and using it againts him in the end. I think this theory makes a lot of sense.

Well he didnt let it go. He had still nightmares years after this

it might said that how powerful you are, if you don't know to control it, it will end up by destroy yourself.

I don't know where you get the low midichlorian count info, but Obi Wan has one of the largest Midichlorian counts of all Jedi. He was ranked just below Yoda if I remember correctly. Considering that his fights with Dooku is influenced by Palpatine to make Anakin shine, Obi Wan was pretty much invincible.

This reason is High Ground!

Obi wan not only trained anakin but was basically his father horrible as a father figure he was a Jedi almost completely detached from his emotions you raise an egg it grows up listens to you loves you grows in power to rival yours and surpasses you but you’ve studied your egg since day one weaknesses strengths and what ticks you off the most the egg kills your Jedi council and younglings now your order is to dispatch your rebellious egg who denounced your ways it was father vs son mentor vs student anakin didn’t desire to kill obiwan truly this is seen in there duel in the kenobi series he calls him master showing respect to the exiled Jedi master

Even just from the movie itself Kenobi knowing anakin was younger and more powerful. He knew he could not win in an outright battle toe to toe with him so he stayed on the defensive and kept the battle moving. Imo trusting in the force knowing that any moment an opportunity would arise

I need to buy the novelization sounds so great!

The high ground

After all, Kenobi the deer immediately started a fight instead of just talking, to find out the reason for Anakin's transition to the dark side. Moreover, to solve the issue with words instead of angering Anakin, especially with his appearance. He didn't understand how his student really hated the Jedi. That there is a deeper meaning behind those words about building an empire. He did not feel that his friend was still inside, just locked in the dungeon of the dark side, as Qui-Gon would tell him later. Kenobi did not need to involve Padme, and he himself did not need to be a Jedi by the next order, but a real brother and friend who could help Anakin deal with problems before leading to such an outcome. And Yoda is no better. The order itself was doomed by unknowingly awakening the sleeping demon in Anakin, who unleashed his anger, pain, resentment and disappointment on others. Although they could have peacefully resolved the issue, at best, expel Anakin from the order so that he could establish a family life by giving him the opportunity to redeem himself. Although it was clearly the will of the Force that Qui-Gon advised to rely on.

He had the high ground!

He kicked his ass again in Obi-Wan ;p

He knew his enemy

Mou kai is a move aimed at removing both legs. Mou kei does not include the arm. Obi wan used a combination of Mou Kai and Cho Sun. Obi Wan also used Sai Tok to cut Darth Maul in half another frowned-upon move.

He has the high ground

By Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith, at the end of the Clone Wars, adult twenty-two -year old Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in his early adulthood and prime had slightly surpassed Obi-Wan. Although Obi-Wan was Anakin's Jedi master, teacher, mentor and best friend that raised and trained Anakin since he was an eight year old child in the Jedi Order of the old Galactic Republic. Both trained and fought alongside one another their whole lives training together as master and apprentice and knew one another's fighting styles inside and out. Obi-Wan's primary lightsaber combat form and swordsmanship combat style was an all defensive lightsaber combat form. Anakin's/Vader's original style was an aggressive offensive and defensive lethal lightsaber combat form and his original primary combat style. Obi-Wan's all defensive lightsaber combat form perfectly evenly matched and countered Anakin's offensive and defensive aggressive style. Their first one on one lightsaber sword duel/force battle/hand-to-hand fight on the lava ridden planet of Mustafar in episode 3 was a two -sided, evenly matched, competitive, close duel and stalemate before Anakin's fateful force jump into the air from the platform Anakin stood on to maneuver the lava and leaped hundreds of feet into the air and across the lava and attempted to jump over Obi-Wan on the higher ground level of the volcano mountain embankment and aimed to land behind Obi-Wan to deliver the killing strike to the back but Obi-Wan, who mastered the high ground advantage defeating Darth Maul the first time on the Seperatist war ship on the planet of Naboo in Episode 1 The Phantom Menace as a young late teenage/early adult eighteen-year-old Jedi Padawan apprentice to Qui-Gon until his death at the hands of Darth Maul. Used the same jump Anakin attempted to leap up from the ledge of the ship's floor he was hanging from above hundreds of feet of nothing beneath but an endless drop after using the force to pull Qui-Gon's lightsaber to his hands and surprised Darth Maul, cutting him in half. Hence why Obi-Wan warned Anakin not to try it. And Obi-Wan narrowly won the duel and severed and amputated Darth Vader's legs and left arm in one blow mid-air. Before Darth Vader's limbless human torso fell to the bottom of the volcano mountain embankment where lava burned him alive fatally and put him into the giant armored cybernetic life support suit. Vader dominated half the fight on Mustafar and if their first sword duel had continued on level ground without Obi-Wan having the high ground advantage, on flat surfaced terrain, Anakin/Darth Vader eventually would've narrowly beaten and killed Obi-Wan on Mustafar. Then he would've ruled the galaxy alongside Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious as Darth Sidious's Sith apprentice, right hand man and second in command of the Galactic Empire for a few years until Darth Vader surpassed Palpatine himself as the Chosen One. At which point Anakin/Darth Vader would've overthrown Emperor Palpatine in a fair one on one lightsaber sword duel and force battle to the death for the throne between Sith Lords master and apprentice and Vader would've beaten, destroyed and killed Emperor Palpatine and ruled the galaxy and the Galactic Empire as emperor and master Sith Lord. As Palpatine originally wanted and planned. But Obi-Wan neutralized that chance. In the giant armored cyborg life support system machine suit, Darth Vader's would be unlimited force power as the Chosen One was restricted and limited to only eighty percent of Palpatine's force power. As well as his physical mobility, swordsmanship combat skills and abilities being permanently hindered and restricted. Forcing Darth Vader to relearn and retrain himself in all the lightsaber combat forms and styles he learned, studied and mastered as a Jedi Knight and a Sith Lord and Sith apprentice to Emperor Palpatine by the end of episode 3. Vader's overconfidence, arrogance, pride and underestimating his former master was his downfall. By Episode 3 ROTS Anakin slightly surpassed Obi-Wan and Count Dooku as well. Although i believe Count Dooku held back halfway and Dooku going all out full force would've given Anakin a run for his money and it would've been a longer, closer, more evenly matched duel but prime Anakin by episode 3 still would've won. In all the battles against Count Dooku throughout the Clone Wars for three years, Count Dooku repeatedly fought and mopped the floor with both Obi-Wan and Anakin who were far less skilled in combat and less experienced by then. Either fighting Dooku one at a time or one by one in turn or alone and even together Dooku regularly outmatched and defeated both Jedi master and apprentice using his superior force powers and abilities with both the light and dark sides of the force as a former Jedi master and Sith Lord/temporary Sith apprentice to Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious during the Clone Wars. Being the former Jedi master of Qui-Gon as well. Obi-Wan's late Jedi master and teacher originally and would've been Anakin's teacher if he wasn't killed by Darth Maul in episode 1. In the second duel on the Kenobi series, Obi-Wan was late middle aged, past his prime, over the hill, ten years exiled and retired, out of practice etc but still an elite well trained, master skilled and experienced sword duelist and in exile he grew stronger and powerful in the force on the light side of the force and learned from Qui-Gon's force ghost how to become one with the force itself both in life and after death. And Obi-Wan became one with the force briefly and was empowered by the force and plus driven by his mission to protect Anakin's and Padm'e's children from the Sith and narrowly defeated cyborg Darth Vader by cutting open Vader's skull helmet and facial mask after a second two sided, evenly matched, vicious, close one on one revenge rematch sword duel and force battle using their force powers and abilities. And Vader nearly won and killed Obi-Wan crushing him with rocks but Obi-Wan connected to the force to push the boulders off and in the force battle battered Vader's life support chest pannel before cutting open Vader's skull helmet and mask. Had Obi-Wan not become one with the force and been empowered by the force to win, Darth Vader, still in his prime age wise at thirty-one, and an even far more highly trained, master level skilled, deadly, experienced sword duelist than before in his early prime in episode 3 ten years before as well as being far stronger and more powerful in the force than before as the Chosen One with both sides of the force as a former Jedi Knight and Sith Lord, Darth Vader would've won and killed Obi-Wan.

2:23 “Soon Darth Vader will be more powerful than either of us.” This is a perfect example of a misquote. Darth Sidious did not say soon. This is exactly what was said. “You will not stop me. Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us.” I have not seen Star Wars episode three revenge of the Sith in several years for the “still ring through in my head is if I watched it yesterday. Allow me to break down the dialogue. Templeton made a statement, but then sensing how powerful Yoda wasn’t a force to be canceled on his statement because he knew there was a chance a great possibility that Master Yoda would defeat him here and now. Dwelling for moment on the possibility of his eminent defeat, Darth Sidious wanted to make Yoda feel fear, by stating that his apprentice would eventually become more powerful than both of them. This backfired, because Yoda had this to say in response “Misplaced may be faith in you’re new apprentice. As is your faith in the Darkside of the force.” let’s break this one down.. basically Yoda is unafraid, because in this moment he believes that Anakin will turn away from the Darkside or at least there’s a possibility Anakin is redeemable from the Darkside. Yoda finish it off with saying that Darth Sidious would lose bcuz His faith in the dark side was also miss placed. Personally Yoda’s second statement, was a little bit weaker. However the portion about Anakin was 100% through.

Interesting question/video idea that just occurred to me: would Sidious have succeeded in bringing about the fall of the Jedi and Republic without Anakin's fall? Obviously Anakin's fall was part of Sidious' plan but if this hadn't worked out, would another individual have been able to replace Anakin. I guess Anakin's powers and abilities were essential to Sidious' plan.

Obi-Wan loved Anakin so much. This was right thing to do. He had to let go. His attachments,feelings. He let Anakin go. He let him to the Force. To become Vader and later. They loved each other so much. So this is extremely sad and tragic. But Obi-Wan had to do this. May the Force be with you too. Have a nice day too :)

@Kinyr

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Obi Wan Kenobi is the ultimate Jedi, absolutely the greatest one because he was the most disciplined. Power means nothing compared to the nature of the force, which is all about neutrality. It is the users of the force who are concerned with power, because Obi Wan was not, I believe he is the absolute pinnacle of what a Jedi should be

Kenobi had the high ground :D :D

He only won because of his absoloute mastery in form 3 and his knowledge of Anakin's tactics. If he didnt have exactness of either, he would have lost.

@greezythumb

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What is that supposed to mean? If Anakin could have beaten Obi Wan he would have. He didn't because he couldn't. Obi Wan was the better of the two. Combat is more than speed and strength. There are plenty of football games where the stronger and faster team loses to the slower, smaller team with superior strategy. Obi Wan won because he was better. It's just that simple. Anakin wasn't ready. He beat him again later.

I really want to get into the books but don’t know where to start. Can someone help? To me 7-9 is not to be mentioned but the sith triumvirate on up is a go

He had the high ground 😂

Naw that wasn't what he was talking about when he said Soon Vader would become more powerful than either of us. He was saying eventually after a couple or years or so. Sidious training would have done it because his training is much harsher just like Yoda's training was top tier when he only had to train one being. Look at all their students just to see the proof.

I was expecting nearly 9 minutes of a screen that just said "the high ground" and was disappointed.

You underestimate my High ground

Anakin was like a full grown Tiger attacking a human that had trained him until he turned on his owner.

It was the will of the force period