Billy’s story is definitely a unique one. He really was just trying to survive a hard time in a hard corrupt place. Very loyal to his pals was not afraid to fight for what he thought was right.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

You got that right. Who am I to sit in climate controlled comfort nearly 2000 miles and 140 years separated from his struggle to condemn his efforts to feed himself and avoid all the iron pointed at him.

@bambamthecamocowboy9037

7 ай бұрын

👍🏻Plowboy! I Feel Actually Like You Do, We Didn't Live In Them Times! We Are Living In Some Crooked 'POS'💩 Times Right Now! 🙏'ing For Us 'aka' True Patriots🇺🇸

Billy stood for what was right, period!

I got married in the old Lincoln County court house in Lincoln. been to all the Billy the Kid historical sites over and over and still never get tired of it.

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

That is flipping awesome 👍

Excellent ! Agree 100%. Thank you for expressing truth to history.

Love all the old stories of Billy the kid

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

I do, too.

I like Billy The Kid a lot more than our government. 👍

@bruceruzicka6089

7 ай бұрын

Well said.

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

You dang right!

Today I bet he would actually say, "I became famous?"

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

No doubt! It's sad that countless good folks are forgotten and even horrible people are more remembered...NOT that Billy was a horrible person, at all. I think he was a decent feller who got himself into something that he either had to fight his way through or give up and die. Of course...leaving New Mexico and starting over somewhere else would've been the smart thing to do. I don't see him as a "murderer" so much as I do as a "survivor". I don't know of anyone he killed that didn't have it coming.

Billy , wild bill ,jesse james , wyatt earp and doc holiday. These where tough men living in tough times. We know what we are told none of us lived their lives or walked in there boots. None of us truely know what caused the men to live like they did. Look at what politicians do now. Look at the attacks on our rights now. Im pretty sure nothing has changed except those men stood up for what they believed to be right. Hard times make tough men.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@Wastelandman7000

7 ай бұрын

Plus, history is written by the victors. So, all the slander of these men come from people who wrote the books long after they were dead. (which is much safer for the writer as I suppose Wyatt Earp or Wild Bill might have taken umbrage at the vile slander "historians" print about them.

Billy was practically a choir boy compared to other outlaws like John Wesley Hardin or Tom Horn.

Billy the Kid was a survivor during trying times, doing what he thought was necessary

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

My take, too.

Billy was a young man trying to make his way in this world the best way he knew how.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

How I see him, too.

I am in total agreement about Billy . He fought for justice

I'm reminded of this quote: "...in certain extreme situations the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. Not vengeance. Punishment." ~Frank Castle: The Punisher

Good discussion, lots to think about. Billy did appear to be very loyal to the people he cared about.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

I believe so.

6 Quotes About & "From Billy the Kid" 1."Advise persons never to engage in killing" 2."I wasn't the leader of any gang. I was for Billy all the time." 3."If mob law is going to rule, better dismiss, judge, sheriff, etc. and let's all take chances alike. I expect to be lynched in going to Lincoln [New Mexico.] Advise persons never engage in killing" 4. "I'd Like to dance, but not in the air." 5."I Don't blame you for writing of me as you have. You had to believe other stories, but then I don't know if any one would believe anything good of me anyway." 6."Truth and History". 21 Men. The Boy Bandit King-He Died As He Lived."

I always love the American outlaw’s 😂

Billy was very loyal to that english gut who became his boss till they killed him, I also think billy was a good man at heart, thank you plowboy sir.

I'm glad to see a longer sit-down video. The law, the government can not abide to see someone fight their wrongdoing. It was just what it was called... the Lincoln County war. War is brutal. Killing the bad people during war isn't supposed to be considered murder... but when your own government is the opponent... well, that can't be tolerated because if everyone started showing that bravery and tenacity, let's just say.. there would be a different president in Washington DC today. Those kinds of people have to be stopped and made an example of. It all comes down to one word.. "Control" That's the very same reason the Kill Dozier is so revered. I enjoyed the talk. Deo Vindice.

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

AMEN. Deo Vindice Resurgam!

Bob's own mother said after his death ,the world is a better place.

He gave old bob $ 1.60 in change , and I’d say he deserved every dime of it

He was a hero against opression .

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

He stood for a lot more, with a lot more grit, than most of his detractors have.

I honestly hope that the spirit of rebelliousness against tyranny continues to live within enough of us that, when it's needed, that force will awake and halt the spread of radical Islam.

Interesting, something I will have to read up on and study sometime.

The Lincoln County Courthouse where Billy escaped from, there are some really evil spirts there. I've been to the old Courthouse and all over Lincoln County. Amazing beauty, but I will not go back there. At least to the preserved town area. Don't want any following me home.

I've always been a Wyatt Earp guy. Just always had an admiration for the Old West lawmen. I'm actually interested in learning more about Jesse James, since he was on the South's side during the War for Southern Independence.

Seemed to be a good guy who got mixed up with bad things from early on and later on fought corruption.

He started out doin the right thing, can say that at least. He wasnt a saint, but he wasnt a coward, even when he was wrong.

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

Exactly.

I.Can.see.how.my.man

As I understood his history he spoke Spanish and had the support of that community except for the brother of the señorita of course who turned him in ……..very interesting Western Character particularly when you consider the short life.

American grit is hard to come by these days. It's something to admire even in cowboy outlaws from the past! It's our history.

I would admire Billy Bonnie Henry Macarty

Ive always liked billy, he lived in a hell of a time where alot men usaully died young. Was tough livin for sure, another fella ive always admired would have to be ole Doc Holliday. Yeah he had his flaws like everyone else, but ive always found him to be most interesting, along with Wild Bill. Doc and Bill were bigger then life and both died legends in my opinion. Still really pisses me off though, how Bill had to go out.

Good against evil

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Seems that way to me.

@wilmamcdermott3065

7 ай бұрын

Me too

Kind of hard to chose a side those days when both sides claim to be right, just like today. Of course you could be imprisoned for your beliefs and actions, depending on which side has the power and backing even then. I do think though, it was much more dangerous era living in the 1870s NM territories back then, I mean by adding in a real war between two opposing factions that had no qualms about bushwhacking instead of arresting, in a wild region where outlaws had been hiding for years and plus the constant threat of skirmishing with roving native bands looking to plunder. I feel the Kid was caught up in a war he couldn't win, could be a lesson for us all.

Glad to see you are using your antifreeze juice!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Ever-day 😁👍

Thinking after the civil war. The economy wasn't doing that good anywhere, especially out west. It was hard to make a living outside of being a cowboy. That's why alot of people joined gangs and became outlaws.

Southern brother,….Different time, different thinking, different people,… Do we want people 150 years from now judging us without knowing all the facts??

The Lincoln county war had a lot to do with muddying the water. Because the other side wasn't exactly moral paragons. Did Billy break the law repeatedly? Sure. So did a lot of others. I'm reminded of one time there was a case where a man who assaulted a child was going to be let go by the judge. The whole town showed up wearing masks and hung him. They broke the law, but, were they in the wrong? Or was the law in the wrong? (I side with the town)

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Good example.

Those hating obviously don’t know the definition of the meaning of Pals!

History is definitely cool but he was an outlaw, but i don’t think by choice.

The State of New Mexico doesn't mind profiting off of his notoriety, so ........

@plowboysghost

6 ай бұрын

They sure don't

I've been looking for a hat exactly like that. Where did you get yours?

BRETT HALL : BRUSHY BILL INTERVIEW. It's the "only" video with 360° overage of the Lincoln County war. Best & complete video I've seen. Check it out! 45 Colt, later

guy.

Billy the kid and the like are no worse than today's military contractors.

Yeah, it's easy to admire 'Biily The Kid' seen the films, strong principles amongst corrupt laws and injustice. Interesting chat, I liked the KZread podcast, you should give more of them, Billy must have also been brave, I bet at times he felt isolated from his family and friends, we all think we are beyond criminal behavior, yet one set of rules can make us heroes and another set make us outlaws.

The Kid Whatnd All That Bad He Was A Young Man That Got In Over His Head And Was Used As A Pawn By Some Powerful Men Who Doubl Crossed Him When He Was No Longer Of Use To Them He Tried Standing Up To Them When He Realized He'd Been Stabbed In The Back,But A 21 Yr Old Kid Against The Sante Fe Ring He Had No Chance

Have you watched the movie called Old Henry?

@plowboysghost

10 күн бұрын

I have ..many times. I own the DVD...though Garrett killed Billy when he said he did and the movie is pure fiction. Still fun, though.

@krwnik8419

10 күн бұрын

@@plowboysghost Oh, nice. Salutations from SerboCroatian regions, brother. There are Dixie-ists over the sea too. 🍻😊

😂 “2020 stupid”😂 I pulled your chain a tad about Billy probably not being a hero like the dime novels might have made him out to be but let me come clean a smidgeon. His picture sits on a table opposite a picture of Bonnie and Clyde’s car. The first time I shot a blackpowder load out of my damascas, hammered, double barreled 10 guage, well I guess you can imagine what I said as I let her rip. 😎

2020 Stupid!,… I love it!🤠👍

" Billy the Kid" was a man of his time. Not much different per say than the James boys, Daltons, Youngers and John Wesley Hardin. They all killed men at a relatively young age. I mean look at Capone, Bonney and Clyde , Baby face Nelson, Dillinger they were the 20th Century version of the old west outlaws. Difference was Ford Model A's and Tommy guns replaced horses and Winchester lever guns.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Good to hear from you, ole buddy🍻

BRUSHY BILL is Billy the Kid. Evidence, matters! Great channel! 45, over & out.

There comes a time where the thoughtful among us has to do self introspection and ask, where are our loyalties to? Nature shows us a lot of things to those who take the time to observe it and recognize the order and laws by which it functions. Mankind being a component of nature but nature being subject to mankind, there's a set of laws, principles, morals that define mankind that transcends the laws and principles codified in our respective Nations, governments. We fear man's governments because of the potential for those systems to bring us to unjust judgement and injury, otherwise there's no fear of them. We should fear the higher law that governs mankind as a whole, because by nature, there's a judgement coming for our actions. Which system should each one of us submit to, how are the two systems (higher natural law vs. civil law) complimentary or in conflict, and which is righteous in principle? I think most people with a head on their shoulders would recognize our civil law system (as good as it is), is not acting anywhere near what we would call righteous.

686 views, heh.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

Yep. That's longform in Shorts world, for me....

Billy is an interesting person. And as they say, History is written by the victors. I'm curious to hear what Billy himself would have to say. There was lots of corruption and double-dealing in the life of Billy Boney. You can respect a person's attributes without agreeing with all their methods. Look at General Robert E. Lee for example. I don't agree with his defense of slavery but I am very impressed with his intelligence, ability and sense of honor. Mr. Plowboy, I also like your hat. Need one of those for myself.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

When did General Lee defend slavery?

@murphy4yt

7 ай бұрын

Lee was a actually against slavery. He fought for the South because he wouldn’t fight against his beloved Virginia.

@plowboysghost

7 ай бұрын

@@murphy4yt Correct. He freed every slave his wife had inherited BEFORE the War. Ulysses S Grant still owned slaves WHILE he wore blue and marched against the South.