"Here's some plot hooks..." "My character's not interested and heads north." "Do the rest of the party follow him? No? Ok. Roll up a new character who IS interested in working with the party."

@lectordreadwood3273

2 жыл бұрын

Yes this is how deal with players like this, these "Non-venturers" as I like to call them

@PaladinGear15

2 жыл бұрын

BLAH! my old players were exactly like this! one session it was like "we're all gonna head into the forest of glass leaves" then as the next session starts "nevermind! let's all go to baldur's gate!" you know, where I had *nothing* prepared...

@davidspring4003

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaladinGear15 that reminds me of a different horror story where the party said they were going to raid a dungeon next session and called the DM's preparation "railroading" when they decided not to do that. That's not what I'm talking about here, though

@PaladinGear15

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidspring4003 I've seen that story, I relate to it so much!

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

Don't even ask if the rest of the party follows him. Just say, "OK. Your character is not part of this game. Bye." And then, if he VOLUNTEERS to create another character, ask him, "Will your new characters ACTUALLY work with the party? Because if he won't, then he won't be part of this game, either. Your choice. Work with the party, or go away. There is no third option at my table. I will NOT run a separate adventure for you."

A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased.The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."

@LeonoraTindall

Жыл бұрын

fazed

@chiefgully9353

Жыл бұрын

Phased as it's a pun on phase

I can't imagine a player being so incredibly rude to their DM in that first story like that.

@360entertainment2

Жыл бұрын

Something tells me they don’t play much due to their shenanigans!

"Sounds like something my character wouldn't be interested in so he heads north." "So he's out of the game then. You approach one of the grieving parents--"

DM: Let me see your character sheet DB: No, you don't need to see it. DM: Then you don't get to play.

Okay, as a Gambit fanboy (i'm from New Orleans, he has an unfair advantage) I am ticked off that HC would claim make a Gambit clone that wouldn't be motivated to help someone screaming for help. Seriously he may be a womanizer and a thief, but he is also a HERO, he wants to help people. If you're playing a selfish douche who wouldn't help someone screaming for help, you're not playing your Gambit clone correctly. Does being so ticked off about non-canon make me as bad as HC? I'm gonna use the excuse that him telling others to stick to canon and him telling others how to play their characters means HIS character should stick to canon and I can tell him he's doing it wrong.

@hellsingmongrel

2 жыл бұрын

Naw, I also play Gambit in all sorts of game formats whenever I get the chance, have done so since I was a wee little babby, and I was ranting at my computer screen when that part of the story came up. He's an IDIOT. Sure, Gambit may be a smooth-talking sex addict, but he won't ignore LITERALLY SAVING LIVES just to flirt with a teammate! He's a scoundrel with a heart of gold, he WANTS to help people, he tries to act like he's all jaded and doesn't care, but he really really does. It's part of why he's such a great character! Too often, people just mistake Gambit as a character they can project their hornball tendencies on, and use him to get their jollies at the expense of other people in games because of his flirtatious personality, and it's reducing him down to such a one-dimensional shadow of what his character really is that it's just insulting.

@atyrannosaurusrex

2 жыл бұрын

That is something a lot of people seem to not understand about Gambit. They see Gambit is likeable, but don't understand how. Gambit has a heart of gold. He wants to help people and is a hero, sure. What sets him apart from other heroes is his unique personality. He pretends to not take things seriously, but absolutely does. His humor is a deflection because that's how he copes with stress and trauma. Gambit is actually funny, witty, and charming. If you aren't any of those, it is incredibly hard to roleplay that. You need to have a certain confidence in order to pull that off. The problem is that a lot of Gambit clones just *expect* people to find their characters as charming as loveable as they find Gambit. They want to force the women they pursue to find them charming, which in essence is antithetical to everything that Gambit is. Gambit may be a 90s womanizer, but he isn't a rapist and he cares about more than just getting laid. Gambit is a hero who breaks the rules, not a rulebreaker that is also a hero. Whenever I play a womanizer, I leave room for the fact that the character may utterly fail at it. Then I incorporate that into the character. I actually had one character who chased after women, but was secretly a virgin and when he finally got what he wanted, froze. It was hysterical and the table almost died of laughter at the big reveal.

@Patrick_Archibald

Жыл бұрын

no you see, that's how the character was "loosely based on" Gambit. All the abilities and flaws, none of the personality, charisma or just anything that makes him good

@atyrannosaurusrex

Жыл бұрын

@@Patrick_Archibald oh damn you got me.

@Illianor123

Жыл бұрын

@@atyrannosaurusrex The heroic tale of how you saved the children from the burning orpanage, a good way to impress the ladies (though heart-of-gold Gambit would save them without any ladies around, and save the story for another time)

Story 1 - Holy shit. These dudes were AWFUL. I am so glad the gf put her foot down and realized she didn’t have to run for these arseholes

@saturngirl3673

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah some of these girls strike back out of nowhere sometimes I miss my 20s its a good time to mess with the jerks because they only care about a woman when she's 18-25. Screw how she feels after that how dare she get older every year like any other human being would do or breath the same air as him he's just butt hurt because he probably realized nobody gives a shit what he thinks about women.

Betcha Lee made his character a Murder-Wraith. A Murder-Wraith is a chemically-augmented Super-Soldier who've been turned undead. They're invulnerable to everything except Magic and Silver. This is something that's NOT supposed to be available to players. On second though, he might have made his character secretly a Vampire. Who is also mostly invulnerable, but most of their vulnerabilities are easily obtained once you know them. (they can tank missile blasts to no effect, for example, but you can kill them with a water gun)

@MistBedlam

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, I was thinking it was maybe a Psi-Slinger but it didn't sound right

The guy in the last story really needs to learn that No means No. Hitting on someone else's wife.*shudders in disgust*😫😓

@gary-from-smiths-across-th9641

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarquisLeary34 Welcome to misplaced lust since ... ever

So that's why I always forget names of people I just met 5 minutes ago. My player keeps failing their history checks. It all makes sense now.

Third Story: Considering that Helpful was trying to suggest "one-on-one RPing" to the wife before they even had characters rolled up, his whole argument of "It's just my character!" kind of falls completely flat. And yeah, those kinds of stories with a lot of unnecessary flowery names and detail aren't really my cup of tea either, but it was a good story regardless.

Intro: Adding RNG to character's memories. That sounds like a nightmare. Possible Cheating. Definite Dick.: Refusing to show your character sheet to the DM or help them understand how your character is doing so well isn't excusable. And the other two players just laughing at the disrespect is just disgusting. I can't blame the DM for just walking away after an experience like that. Kicked for Solving a Puzzle: Players have a right to talk to the DM about rulings. This DM seem to have a "my way or the high way" mentality and kicked the OP for that. And yeah, the OP just made two random guesses. Not even saying they are those, but just guesses. If that is accurate, than the DM's reaction isn't excusable. Trying to Seduce the DM's Wife: Something tells me this guy is always kicked out within a month whenever he joins a group. Overbearing, being controlling, raging whenever someone changes the lore for their game (I mean, I think the Forgotten Realms is pretty cool, but I would never rage at someone for making small changes in their campaign), and trying to hook up with someone's wife. That's a That Guy if I ever saw one.

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

as the OP said, "what kind of a POS do ya have to be for 4chan to hate you?"

LoverBoyxXx is the only one that gets to keep his name, because he's a celebrity. Anyone else just use a damn class.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

Or just a normal name, like Fred, or Benny or Azim. Keep it short and simple, for ease of use, but it gets confusing and boring listening to people being referred to by class, only. It's even worse when you say, "In the first campaign, there were Rogue, Cleric, Fighter, and Mage. Rogue was the problem player. In campaign 2, Rogue was playing a Barbarian, Cleric played a Mage, Fighter played a Rogue, and Mage played a Cleric. Rogue (The first Rogue, not Fighter, who was playing a Rogue this time) was still being a problem player. When we got to campaign 3, and Rogue decided to play a Warlock, Cleric played a Rogue, Fighter played a Cleric and Mage played a Ranger, Rogue (The first Rogue, not the Cleric, who was playing a Rogue) did the most awfullest thing, because "It's what my character would do," and that's when I punched him in the face. PLEASE! Using class is OK for short stories, but if you have multiple adventures, PLEASE USE NAMES! Just make them simple. We all know about Karens and Kevins.

@GammaMan9437

2 жыл бұрын

As someone literally named Kevin I feel I should be offended by that past line, but I'll concede your point. Lol In the event of something long and exaggerated like that, yea regular simple names are easier.

@rhunter42dragon

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I thought Doc made it work. Had no trouble keeping the characters straight.

Gotta respect the dm for ending the game when those guys were cheating. Most of these stories involve someone putting up with stuff like that for months before the game ends.

Suddenly Gambit Story What an obnoxious sex pest. How dare he try to force other characters to play “his way” when he refuses to play the actual game himself?! After the creeping on wife, I be putting my foot down.

op in the final story is so full of himself i just know he's unbearable irl without even realising it

@ricoklan2101

2 жыл бұрын

I know right?

@HanDaimond

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was so confused with that last story, who the hell was "The Doctor of Funk"? Francois? Helpful Comr... fucking hell, use normal names or codes. "The Men of Ex"... ha ha funny. Even Crispy had enough.

@joetheschmoe1066

2 жыл бұрын

Whole story was full of cringe. "Helpful comrade" for obvious reasons, and Op because he thinks hes the smartest, funniest, most clever writer to ever touch a keyboard.

@jades_cabinet

Жыл бұрын

i hate the way he wrote the story so much. does it hurt to use normal words???

@Stefisgarden

Жыл бұрын

Right? Like, I'm a writer, I like to embellish as much as the next writer. But I also know not to be insufferable and over the top, because you're just going to annoy the readers and lose them.

For the first story - how exactly did the game even start without the GM seeing players' Character Sheets? What those guys did was awful, but I feel it should've come up long before the session even started.

@endlessmisery15

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine these kinds of players like to edit the character sheet after the fact.

@AngryTenko

2 жыл бұрын

And the dude said the asshole was "a cool guy" even though he treated his GF like that. I hope she found a better boyfriend too.

@enigmachaos4413

2 жыл бұрын

@@AngryTenko no, asshole's friend was a cool guy. asshole was asshole

@HanDaimond

2 жыл бұрын

I became more baffled when they AGREED to play ANOTHER game with him after the train incident, even worse with his asshole friends. Two strikes were enough.

@atrution

Жыл бұрын

I've DM'd off and on since 2011, and only looked at character sheets when players needed help. It isn't quintessential to running, but it should be stated in session 0 if that is what you want. I personally find it easier to just adjust off how previous encounters(combat, exploration, & RP) went than by seeing everything players might do.

There's a tvtrope called 12th hour or something where the character starts out super OP but soon loses 95% of said powers. It's sometimes done in videogames, too. The magitech rpg could've been a case of that trope.. in another dimension where Those Guys would've talked to the GM about starting as demigods until an early dramatic event nerfed them into the ground, forcing them to grind for xp like everyone else.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

That could be a really fun campaign, IF everyone is on the same page, and aware, and agrees to it.

*grabs drink* OK I'm ready. Let's do this.😁

@alexinfinite7142

2 жыл бұрын

Same lol

I'm just going to be honest, I don't like the over written stories. I like longer stories but when ops add in so much padding, fluff and thesaurus words it makes the entire story feel a lot less genuine. It feels less like someone recounting an experience and more like a "writer" trying to flex their "skills". The repetitive "Dear children" attests to this as well and comes across as super condescending.

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

well i get where your coming from and at the end of the day its subjective but i personally dont dislike it as at the very least it keeps it from being generic and to me it didnt really come across too condescending, if ya wanna read condescension ya should look up the "Ross Saga" now thats a petty, condescending OP

Rolling to remember mundane things like a person's name you met seems like something my rp character would need. he was always vague and mind not entirely there due to reasons, very forgetful, so I could see it as a mechanic for him that after having been apart from a place or NPC for an extended period of time, when they get back roll to see if he remembers or is confused and doesn't really depending on how big an impression they made on him last he saw them or how frequently.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

I can see that as a character trait, or if the PC was cursed or had lowered stats, or something. But just regular play, for all characters? NO. It's too much fuss, and doesn't make sense. Sure, *I*, as a person, may not remember something that happened 30 minutes ago, but then again *I*, as a person, have forgotten my own name, multiple times that I actually remember forgetting, and more that I don't remember, but people tell me about. So, sure, if I were playing myself as a PC, I'd tell my DM to make me randomly roll for brain farts. But a normal intelligence or higher character, who is not under a curse or something? NO. That makes no sense, and it just adds frustration to the game. It's like making your characters roll every turn, to make sure they didn't trip this turn. Can you imaging walking through town on a shopping trip, having to roll for Athletics, every 35 feet?

Every one of these is more facepalm inducing than the last. How do people think that they can act like this? I am genuinely baffled by this.

@andrejg4136

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised by entitled people. I'm surprised by HOW entitled sometimes.

@marybdrake1472

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrejg4136 Entitled? More like selfish and arrogant. Not to mention lacking any basic manners.

@marybdrake1472

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarquisLeary34 In some cases that definitely seems to be the way of it.

On that last story: it is NOT the DM's job to make you play the game. It is YOUR job to make a character who would play the game. Granted, it's the DM's job to play to what motivates your character, but he has to know what will. Money? Glory? Righteousness? You have to actually tell them

The intro story, as long as everyone is in on it, that could make for a hilarious game. I'm literally imagining those old As Seen On TV commercials where people can't even use a blanket without getting confused!

We in our campaign make fun of our GM all the time and are ribbing on him but we would never hide rolls or sheets from him or otherwise try to sabotage his ability to actually run the game. There is making fun and then there is just being downright asocial.

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

well theres the key difference, in your group ya have history together as far as i know that game was the first time they met the DM, aka OP's gf i imagine if ya made fun of your GM on the first day ya met him, he'd have a similar reaction

@johnoneil9188

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow Fair point. He is the first DM for a good deal of us, for me for example, but we have known the guy for years before starting to play DnD together.

@procrastinatinggamer

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a difference between taking the piss out of your mates and being a dick. I mean if there wasn’t then at least half the British comedy scene would be out of work and up on slander charges. And that tax avoidance thing would’ve been the least of Jimmy Carr’s worries. :P

11:50 ish "How dare he change the lore..." In Golarion it is actually canon that each group's version is a different version and the GM is at liberty to make any changes he needs to for the sake of his campaign... Of course, I already know the reason he won't allow ANY CHANGES is so he can metagame the module. ...And upon finishing the story, he's metagaming the module TO AVOID progression... Although you gotta hand it to this guy! He's trying to get into the pants of the DM's wife, and ends up being only somewhat related to why he gets kicked out.

Intro story, I feel your pain. I made a new character for a campaign that I was in. I originally had played a mole for the BBEG, because I was only going to play a few sessions, but I really liked it, so I wanted to join full on. To do this, I said maybe my character can meet the party in the town they're in. I can be passing through on business, and because he had been having a hard time getting the table on track, I suggested maybe I be on my way to my village, which could be near where the party would have to go next, which he liked as an idea. I meet up with the party, role paly a bit, help them with their problem in town, and then we get prompted to have to go to the village next to mine. I say, DM, since I was from the neighboring village, I should know how long it takes to get home from here, along my pre established regular trade route. He says "roll a history check to see if you know how long it takes to get back." I argue this, but ultimately have to make the roll. Intelligence is my dump stat, the only stat I have a negative modifier in. I roll, and get a 3 total. He says "you're just so focused on getting home, you don't know how long it will take." I should have quit the group then, it wouldn't get better over the next 3 years.

I liked that last story. It was fun :)

The 'WAAAAAHHHHH' had me thinking of Wario's scream.

As someone who frequently plays Gambit in every game-type I can throw him into, this players understanding of the character is OFFENSIVE. What a DUMBASS! My "inner Gambit muse" is highly insulted. >n>

"Who even Ms. Piggy would call a spotlight hog." Well to be fair she would say to anyone who is in the spotlight aside from and maybe Kermit.

Yeah no, I NEVER refuse to let my DM see my sheet. Shit, I have days where I can't count so I'll sometimes ask my DM for an audit.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

I ask my players to give me copies of their character sheets, every few levels, just to keep my own information up to date (got to know how to balance encounters), and they didn't balk. They know I'm going to work with them on level-up, anyway, so I see all the sheets every time they level up. There is NO reason, other than cheating, to deny your DM access to your character sheet. It's OK to have secrets from the rest of the party, but NO from the DM.

@TriaMaxwell

2 жыл бұрын

@@AuntLoopy123 Right. The only time I ever "denied" my DM a chance to look at my sheet was when I was out grocery shopping he messaged me on Discord(have it on my phone). I told him I was out and my sheet is on my computer and I would get it to him when I got home.... Not good enough for him. Like dude, I'll be home in less than an hour, chill.

In reference to the intro story, I had a DM that required that you roll an int check for memories. Which could be anything as vital as "Remembering the wording of the job we were given." to "Hey, what's the name of that random crab we named." This wasn't helped by our DM hating us naming characters and not doing Precisely what he wanted. He literally asked us why we weren't more respectful to a god, *after* we got mugged by an adult white dragon. This DM loved his lore, except in the case of an Adult White Dragon being smart enough to know when its being flattered, and then mug people, even if White Dragons are supposed to be more savage.

That intro story makes me think the main villain from crystal chronicles must love that DM

Thank you💜

“Alright, since you won’t show me your character sheet, you’re a level 1 commoner with flat 10’s across the board. No feats, and no skills.”

I have a player who has the potential "my character wouldnt be interested in the plot hooks" problem. For context, I am working on a good/neutral aligned campaign, and he's playing the type of Chaotic Neutral that veers into evil a little bit, and has told me his character needs material reward to complete "goody two-shoes" quests. As a first time DM, I'm not really sure what to do before it gets to the "roll a character that *will* do these quests" point

Creepy player doing my boy Gambit dirty. 😒 At least Remy has something that his dude won't, true love and character growth

“No, you can’t look at my sheet! If you did, then you would see that I was obviously cheating!”

Love the Rifts setting. Excited to one day run the Savage Worlds Rifts. I don't know what the player thought the outcome was going to be but good on the DM for ending it.

aw.. i like it when folks have nicknames for the ppl, it gives a bit of personality and if their classes arent super important, i dont see why it cant be done

Buddy, my character is a distant jackass who hates people and distrusts everyone in the party except for the cleric (and slowly he's warming up to the friendly bard) and never feels bad when strangers die, and even he would investigate people screaming for help because he does have at least some semblance of empathy and curiosity to him and also it would be boring to play a game where he has no motivation to actually do anything but wander aimlessly and ignore the plot.

I got so happy when I realized the reference for “Quoth the Raven”

I don't understand how a game starts without the DM seeing all of the character sheets. It seems like so many problems could be stopped before they start if the DM just checks all the sheets first.

Haha I know it's probably not a horror story, but I want to hear more about "How do I roll dice?"

I Love how OP Writes how this problem player talks in such a way that it really brings out how punchable they are. 10/10!

I love Palladium Rifts, it’s one of the few games that’s still ongoing and being produced by the original publishers, they’ve never sold out. On top of that the same company came out with a TMNT and Street Fighter TTRPG back in the day and I’m lucky enough to own the TMNT one!

I got an idea from that first tiny story about history checks. Make the villain feed off of memories!

I know that I've listened to this story before but I only just now caught a piece, the "good doctor" built a character built based on "Mad Mardigan"? Sooo he literally built Valeros the iconic fighter of Pathfinder who was literally based off of "Mad Mardigan" and based the off of Val Kilmer's name from the movie Millow where that character came.

....I know exactly why Helpful Comrade was playing that character. It was to get into people's pants and play it up as roleplaying, like he did with the DM's wife...

If a player literally starts off with "my character doesnt care, i fuck off," my response would be "ok. They fuck off. Make a new character."

*Twerking to Crispy’s intro song bc he can’t stop me no matter how cursed it seems*

That last one if he were playing Gambit, they have such a misunderstanding of his character yeah He is horny but He is a gentleman he takes no as an answer. Gambit is also a hero who if he heard a scream coming from a building he would help. He is that smooth-talking, rough-around-the-edges thief kind of character, but he is still a good person. Idk what Comrad thinks Gambit is but not whatever the hell they were playing

If you want player participation where everyone gets a turn. Maybe discuss that with your players beforehand like I do? Everytime I have an event with word games or puzzles I state in the rules "1 guess at a time, if you get the first correct you may guess again or pass so another can try".

not gonna lie, I'd love to play at a table with a character based on Walter Mitty...

Re the history checks for all memories, not as a general thing but as a specific trait or part of a plot it could be a cool mechanic Especially if playing horror/insanity or something like that

I really don't like how the OP in the helpful comrade story articulated themselves, seems so extremly pretentious, never really saw anyone do this in a post, is that a normal thing people do?

GM: *makes a puzzle* Player: *makes a guess at the puzzle* GM: You weren't supposed to do that.

Been there. Guys laughing because a girl is starting to cry in frustration is normal. Deplorable but sadly normal. It's a power play and she was right to shut it down.

Suddenly, Gambit!

When my players want to see if they can remember something as a character I have them roll a memory check. It's the average of their wisdom and intelligence scores. That score gives you the modifier you use to see if you can remember something. If they are trying to remember something that happened in the last week they have advantage. After that it becomes an increasingly difficult DC depending on how long ago the information they are trying to recall happened

@niniseconda5839

2 жыл бұрын

ah, but you see, that demands two things: effort and preparation. and that DM had only one of them, tops.

@Rani-bv7hw

2 жыл бұрын

@@niniseconda5839 true. I try very hard to be prepared.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

If I were the one taking all the notes, maybe. But I have enough on my plate, so I assigned one of the players to take the notes for everything that happened in the session. Mind you, I ALSO take notes, but I'm so busy DOING stuff, that I might miss something. I'm SURE I have missed a few things. Heck, one time, I couldn't remember if the spores were green, or pink, so they wound up being "Grink." We laughed about it and moved on. Anyway, with all the memory problems we have in my family in real life, there's no way we're going to impose that on our PCs, in a casual way. ONLY if there's a curse or really low Int/Wis stats. Of course, if your PC has a curse or really low Int/Wis stats, then I may say, "YOU may remember, but let's see if you character does," and make it part of the role-playing that way. But ONLY if there's a really good in-game reason for them not to remember stuff. Why? 1 ) I'm too busy doing other stuff to fuss with that, and 2) MOST PEOPLE can remember MOST STUFF, and if your character has average Int/Wis (10) or higher, then they can remember most stuff. That's what average stats mean: That you are average. I love Puffin Forest, but he had a character with really high stats, except for Int, which as 12, so he played him as an idiot, who frequently did stupid stuff, and couldn't read. But he had a +1 modifier to Int. rolls? NOPE! His DM finally corrected him on that, and told him, "You know, you're character's not really stupid, right?"

I've been playing since the five classes were: Fighter, Magic-User, Cleric, Elf, and Dwarf.

I've reread the discord server one multiple times and still can't figure out what the hell was going on.

1st story, I flip it. There are times that I'll try to get them to remember something important by coaxing it out of them through int rolls

"We were playing RIFTS..." Ohhhhhhh BOY.

Had a guy get into almost a screaming match over the pronunciation of the word "Lich". Plus he never took the time to learn his character abilities as a barbarian. It was 3.5 D&D but still not that complicated. Fun.

See for memory stuff, I do a number of days + wisdom modifier to see if they'd remember it naturally, and then give them the info again. If they wouldn't remember it naturally and don't have the info in notes anywhere, I just do a wisdom check to see if they remember it by trying hard in character lol

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

I just told my mother, who has memory problems, "You may forget anything and everything, but your character has a high intelligence, and she'll remember anything she heard or read or witnessed. So just ask." If I ever make my PCs roll to remember something, it will be because of an in-game reason, such as a curse that lowered their stats, or something. Why? Because if there is no in-game reason to make it hard, then making it hard is just adding frustration, and extra work for me, and I don't have time or energy for that. I simplify rules (like, if you can read the scroll, and it's on your class's spell list, then you can cast it, no problem. Yes, you can easily cast spells above your level, by using a scroll. But you can't use scrolls that aren't part of your class list), because the rules as written can sometimes be a bit more complex than I can deal with. I have my own memory problems. D&D 5E is already "light," compared to previous editions, and I lighten it, even more, because I'm more interested in the role-playing, story-telling, and social aspects. And that's OK, because you're ALLOWED to make house-rules to simplify things, just as you're allowed to make house-rules to complicate things. So long as everyone is on the same page, and my group also agrees that those scroll rules are too much for US.

I've had dm's make me roll history checks for obvious things that we should've known. Like a city's name thT we've been to 80 times and should've remembered or ask an NPC five feet from us

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

honestly if i had to deal with that mechanic, id ask the DM every 5 minutes if i remember the main quest until he got the hint or i got a nat 1 "oops guess we wont be following this plot anymore and you'll have to make a new one.....ooor we can drop this dumb mechanic and we can keep playing"

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow OH, I love that!

The only time I'd think to roll to remember an npc's name would be as a charisma roll.

My gaming group played a few sessions of East Texas University recently. I got to thinking it'd be fun to play a classic neckbeard. Fedora, trenchcoat, cutesy cartoon t-shirt, katana, the works. And in a surprise twist, he'd actually be a legit badass with that katana. I gave up on that concept, though, because he'd absolutely have to simp for our two female players. I wasn't sure how they'd take that, and I didn't want to risk making either of them uncomfortable. One girl was new, so I didn't know her very well, and the other is a lesbian. Maybe I can play something like that some other time, when we all know each other better.

@biffwellington6144

2 жыл бұрын

I ended up playing a ranch vet student instead. Smart, but tough and outdoorsy. He has medical skills (always handy), and I figured a lot of horror stories involve animal mutilations, or monsters impersonating animals, or animals acting oddly, and someone with a skillset revolving around all those things could be very helpful to the group.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

I think they probably would have enjoyed it, IF you talked to them about it, and said, "Look, I wouldn't treat you that way for real, but I want to play this guy, ironically, and would you, the player, be OK with me the character, simping for your character? Your character can respond badly, and I won't take it personally." And then, when you're ready to play the role, for real, and you're about to do something tacky, just say, "Real me is apologizing for what my character is about to do." And best of all, if you can incorporate some CHARACTER GROWTH into the campaign. Like, at some point, maybe after the female PCs have wiped the floor with him, after one too many M'Lady's, he can LEARN something, and being treating them with respect, and maybe even branching out to treating OTHER women with respect, and then, maybe, even getting a real, respectful, EQUAL, romantic relationship with a woman.

1:10 I am on calls with my players late at night and I just say random stuff about my lore that they end up forgetting and I forget I tell them

And suddenly... Gambit!

How do i make the 8bit figurines? I really wanna make something similar.

100% used Madmartigan portraits with voicepack for BG1 back in the 90s.

Having to roll for history should be like what I'm trying to do. Which is make fantasy icy hot based on a recipe her brother made when they were little

For the history check, I've been using that for "memory" type things (or int check whichever is higher). But it's more of a safety mechanism. Like when my players say "DM, we all know we met a guy, who ____________, but we can't find it in our notes." I'll have them roll history but honestly the DC is super low. Just because 1.) my players really like to roll, and it's a chance to. and 2.) It's for things that are much more obscure. In those scenarios it allows for similar to real life, "Oh what was his name?". Also if they really should know it, I don't make them roll. For things like "What's the name of the city we are traveling to again?"

I think the history checks for character memories is perfectly fair. But the DC for remembering something that, in-game, happened recently would be like a 5 max. Your character could totally have a brain fart moment, especially if your intelligence is super low.

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but if ya gotta roll for every bit of info its gonna start getting old real quick

@visualstoryboard1406

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow I agree, it shouldn't be overused.

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow Ginny Di has a great video about when to make skill checks. Don't roll for it, for example, if failure will not have REAL consequences in-game that the DM WILL enforce. For example, you just failed the roll to remember the name fo the person you just met. He's standing just 15 feet away from you. In real life, if you brain fart on someone's name, you can just say, "Hey, sorry, but I brain-farted, and forgot you name." Heck, it happens to people who are friends, even family. Ask any parent about forgetting their own child's name. So, in-game, at most, the consequence should be that you have to ask someone, including the person whose name you are forgetting, what their name is. They MIGHT be offended, but most people understand brain farts, and would not take offense, so the odds of REAL CONSEQUENCES that MATTER are so small as to make it absurd to roll. Like, you'd have to roll a 1 on a d100 to actually offend someone with that. So, what's the point in rolling for it, then?

I have to admit, I actually really liked Dr Funkenstein’s writing style. Also there is one interesting little nugget with the Adventure Path they were playing through that HC’s Gambit rip-off would’ve probably made a hundred times worse. Those familiar with part 1 of that AP, Burnt Offerings, probably know the bit I’m talking about but for those needing a little jog to the memory - do you remember a certain NPC in Sandpoint, the daughter of the local general store owner, named Shayliss Vinder? See, Shayliss serves a dual purpose - whether the party learn it or not, her family is involved in the inciting incident of Part 2, but more immediately she’s showing a side of the hero worship the party is usually getting after helping defend the town against the goblins at the very beginning. She approaches the PCs and asks just one of them (insisting it’ll only take one of them) to help deal with the rats in the basement of her father’s shop. If a PC takes her up on the offer they find two things down there that are not rats - a small cot and Shayliss’ dress hitting the floor. Needless to say, this “encounter” involves a lot of rewriting or even full on omission to fit the group. Since Shayliss’ dad shows up partway through (whether anything’s actually happened or not) I get the feeling the original author was hoping groups would play the scene for comedy. So it’s probably for the best that HC didn’t last long enough in the group to reach that encounter (assuming the GM hadn’t preemptively yeeted it out the window for the exact thoughts I had when making this comment).

What's my motivation? Either help the person calling for help or be cursed with forever limpness.

Oof, and here I am making a physical handmade book of things the players already know with an Index so they can look things up super fast if they need to know. The book can be accessed at any point to remember places, names, hand-drawn symbols/crests, homebrew creatures, god lore, city maps/info, or even what year it is in-game all with a back of book glossary for terms they may not remember. Who would have thought I could simply not do any of that and instead tell them to "roll for it." What a time saver!

@Jessica-wr4zu

2 жыл бұрын

Your players are very lucky to have you. That sounds like a lovingly crafted and amazing resource.

I'm kinda at the point where if I posted a LFG I'd be like "how many rpghorrorstories have you either read or heard?" as an official "interview" question. Anybody forming a new play group with strangers needs to learn these flags. And I guarantee that each of these problem players completely avoid any information about them. Also, if it's your first game ever, you probably shouldn't start with a PbP. Just my opinion there. Finally, more people need to be told directly and immediately that how they designed their character doesn't limit what they can do. Firstly, they designed their character, so they're still 100% responsible for that character's choices. Secondly, they could have their character make other choices with a bit of imagination - figuring out why your character might do something different from the most obvious choice for them can be justified, you can come up with a reason even though it might involve some thinking on the part. Thirdly, they could have their character start to make other choices as starting a growth arc, which could make for an awesome and interesting story about them. "It's what my character would do" should NEVER be an excuse for table decisions that harm the group's story.

Suddenly gambit!

Suddenly Gambit!

in the first story, why didn't the gm just... tell the problem player to leave, instead of leaving herself? or manifest some godly threat that outright kills the character for being brought forth by a cheating player and then vanishes, leaving the party to continue on.

Rise of the Runelords? Buckle up, we're in for a ride!

So, horror story of my own: for context there's a guy in the outer orbit of my social circle who has this obsession with soldiers, but in a warrior culture sort of way, a romanticized idea of what PTSD is, offending someone I know who does have PTSD, and an obsession with having a love interest that somehow makes everything better. Most times we can move around these features of his game play, or they aren't large enough to get in the way, like a post apocalypse game we had and he didn't pursue a love interest plot, but did try and drive the Hello Kitty Justice Truck into the sunset on the last session, one of two trucks this town had; we did not allow that... The horror story itself: we were playing an Aberrant game, and the other player characters don't exactly matter for this other than That Guy's character, Soldier Smith (I forget what his rank was and don't have the energy to go look, but yes the guy's name was Smith). I don't remember what Smith's powers were, though the player tried to not have any, I think he eventually took super sight to be better sniper. Our characters get introduced to each other, we interact with some NPCs, and there's Mary Kate a childhood friend of Smith's who's freshly single (her fiance had died recently). And much time is spent with Smith trying to have her as his love interest, despite the discomfort of the story teller, who puts out several soft No signals through the character, but Smith persists, and persists, and persists... much the the discomfort of *everyone* at the table. Eventually the player decides after a particularly stressful mission that had him find out another childhood friend of Smith's isn't dead, Smith has a mental break and combat flashback that lasts for days, crying out for Mary Kate. At which point I was beyond done and instead of making light commentary on it I straight up told the guy that this was unacceptable, it was making everyone at the table uncomfortable, that it defies reality five ways to Tuesday and that he needed to cut it the fvck out. His character was removed from play to get some private mental health care, and for reasons relating to another problem character as well the game ended up falling apart shortly after.

Suddenly; Gambit!

Can someone explain to me what a play by post get is?

Suddenly, Cyber-Akuma! I mean, Gambit!

And then there was gambit

sometimes i forget the names of people i just met too

@AuntLoopy123

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, I forget my OWN name. Actually, for a long time, I had forgotten it three times that I could remember. Then, I forgot one of the times, but I could remember that I had forgotten it three times that I USED to remember. Then, I forgot it a fourth time, and remembered that. But now I don't remember the fourth time, anymore. I only remember the fact that I forgot my name four times that, at one point, I used to be able to remember. Please don't make me roll a history check for my own name. I WILL fail that DC 27 check!

16:40 If I guessed correctly what part of the adventure that is, HC is metagaming like all hell here. And here's why: That part is a light-hearted joke where one of Sandpoint's villagers, a flirty and sex-starved redhead, tries to get one of the PCs to follow her home and get in his pants. The encounter ends with the PC in question having to sneak or run away from her enraged father. Since we already know HC read ahead in the adventure, he must have known that and deliberately avoided that hook so that he didn't "ruin" what he "had going" with Storm.

@mrroboshadow

2 жыл бұрын

HC aside that hook kinda sounds hilarious i imagine DM describing the PC trying to climb out a window half nude and having to trek like that back to the party

@ZorotheGallade

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow Yes, that's literally what happens (or can happen)

It's too bad she didn't GM again. It's too bad she didn't say, "Well, if you won't play fair, then you won't play at my table. You're out of the game. So, moving right along, JAY! It's your turn. What do you do?" And then proceed to utterly ignore Lee, because he's not part of the game, anymore.

Suddenly Gambit

Suddenly : Pineapple !

Suddenly Gambit.

Our DM was lead by a DM called.... DM lol

"Remy LeClone" XD

Blatant cheater was Blatant.

Crap I've been using the history skill all wrong. Every time the pcs do something cool I have them roll a history check to see if future historians will write about that moment. I was way offfff.

@CrispysTavern

Жыл бұрын

Love that!