dude is Christian rock its Christian people playing rock n roll some songs about God about Jesus but not all of them

If it was not for Christina Rock I don't know where I would be. It was such a big part of my salvation as a teen. the words and music gave me hope encouragement and lead me in the joy of worship, inspiring me to lead in worship. and dedicate my talents to the lord. As an adult I faced death Numerous times battling illness and two liver transplants. God spoke through classic Christan rock and groups like Fireflight giving me hope. I found Joy and healing in praising him. He live in my music!

@jmdenali

2 жыл бұрын

Whoah! So Christian Rock became sin for you hence becoming you savior? Who’s your kids’ Savior today, Christian Hip Hop?

i continue hearing.... very very very interestred.....

Petra has always been my favorite Christian band.

Keep preaching, my brother!

" All music should be for the Glory of God" - J.S. Bach.

So a guy writes a song about an old girlfriend and he's Satan? Wow, this one starts off strong.

@ministercreek I play guitar at my church, and I love praising God with music. I will say this to you plainly: ALL people have been deceived by the devil at some point; we are all sinners, but God loves us and will forgive us if we ask. I do not believe that rock music (or any music) is bad if it is used to serve God.

I'm sure u can feel quite comfortable with blues or country.

To Petrafan327. Hi. My wife loves Petra too. I like them too. 33 yrs. of ministry. I've heard the lyrics to the live cd i bought. They are good, wholesome, God honoring, can't fault them, music is well played - a fine album indeed. It's called "Farewell". Phil Anthony

@homeless018 I repent all the time. Listening to dance music or doing anything else for that matter, will not cause me to lose my salvation. Have you repented?

@jesusfreakchild This guy used to be in a rock band himself; is that the name of the band he was in?

I KNOW RIGHT

all i have to say is when i was 14 or 15 i went to church camp and the bad there played some christian rock songs, when they played "dare you to move" by switchfoot i never felt more close to god in my entire life and you could feel the holy spirit moving in that building. hundreds of kids jumping up and down praising the lord. the spirit was so strong that night a kid that had been in a wheel chair all his life got out of it and started to worship in the name of Jesus. so no i dont agree with everything this guy is saying about music. i dont think its a sin to listen to music as long as it is not going against God or Gods word in the bible.

God wanted me to deliver this message to the creator of this video: "Hey!! Enough with all the white-out on my bible"

@neutrocity I am not saying traditional hymns and kiddie songs are bad, but how are you going to draw someone to the Lord through positive music who is mostly into hard rock and metal?

This guy needs a chat with Pastor Bob Beeman " heavy metal pastor" 'nuff said.

@MegaCrazycatt It is amazing how this guy failed to mention that Petra is Peter's name in Greek meaning rock.

No, "Big Man's Hat" is about the dangers of fame and self-importance/pride.

I am an LCMS Christian myself. But this guy invariably accused Petra of plagiarizing KISS. KISS recorded their track in 1986, 27yrs. ago.; Yet KISS never accused Petra of plagiarism, when Petra recorded there track in 1990. While he is focusing on Christian music, from the way he is talking, I bet he would be glad that KISS members Eric Carr(41) and Mark St. John(51) died young. I agree with holding Christians(and people in general) accountable for their actions. But he is looking for something wrong in every action. Like going through a movie frame-by-frame.

@swolf712

10 жыл бұрын

Beg Pardon, but LCMS?

@Willmc14

10 жыл бұрын

Actually, both Petra and KISS covered "God gave rock and roll to you" originally recorded by Argent in 1973. Petra's first recording of the song was in 1977 and KISS's recording was in 1991. I'm pretty sure they both had permission to cover the song, so there was no plagiarism involved.

@JayEvangelist09 Good, modern, relevent Christian music can be one of the greatest tools for reaching out to people (youth specifically). That's a fact and I've witnessed it first-hand.

@2kustom Ah yes, Farewell; they did pretty well on that one. Good to see somebody else standing up for what's right.

@homeless018 The reason why I like this guy, and have learned a lot from him, is because he backs it up with scripture. These ppl he's talking about don't try to hide what they do. Do you have a christian background? Where do you stand? Do you believe the Bible 100%? If you do and are, than you know we are in a spiritual battle between Satan and God. Who do you think is going to win?

@homeless018 I agree to an extent. Check it out...Have you read the story when Moses went up Mt. Sinai. When he was done, and came back down he heard the crowd acting wild, having orgies, mocking and doing what they were doing. Moses said according to the Word(and I use the Word as a guild line and a standard of Knowing) that the sound was singing, music. So that music is rebellious music, and it's been around for ancient of days. We can't just change the facts.(Exodus 32!)

"We are a new creature," I actually smiled at that, because that's Disciple's message of Dear X. I totally don't agree with most things this guy says, but I sure do love some small things he says :)

In my experience as a christian professional musician ive found that its the oposite that is the case.

@MegaCrazycatt No. This guy was into secular rock. What he fails to mention is that John Schiltt, the lead singer for Petra from the mid 80's until their retirement, was a member of a hard core rock band called Head East before he was a born again Christian. John was on drugs for many years but after his wife was born again, so was John and was delivered from that. John's first cd with Petra was Back To The Street. Every Petra cd emphasizes repentance and being saved.

My point is that the length of their career does not mean that they are a great band. The fruits of these people are what counts, and music is one of the fruits. Our problem today is that we often can't even see the difference between good and rotten fruit, because when it comes to music, we rely on our "taste".

A Pastor who is lead by the Holy Spirit will not support sin, but will always expose sin without hurting (or killing) the sinner: The Gospel of Christ (Love, Mercy and Forgiveness Through repentance of sins- washed by the Blood of Christ)

yes I do, because i am a Christian. I love Jesus with all my heart, and I pray that i always will. (and yes, i do support Christian rock as long as the lyrics are about God and salvation and the Bible; e.g. CHRISTIAN rock)

@Rawk4Life that is a valid point. maybe the answer would be found in something involving the reason for why they listen to that type of music and something to do with psychology. lol im no expert

@patika000 It's not to scare you, but prepare you or us I should say.

@JayEvangelist09 Rawk4Life made a very valid point.

Maybe i'm the only one who hasn't seen that.

Yes, agree Petrafan327 PA

JG says: MWS didn't say anything about "repentance", "turning away from sin", "being a new creature in Christ"...assuming again 1. that MWS absolutely had to say that - he didn't. So what, the church is well armed with capable evangelists, pastors, etc to do that. 2. MWS did mention "straddling the fence". Now don't tell me MWS wasn't pulling punches there. He then proceeded with a song "peer pressure", a very real thing in society. Can't fault it. (new pp.) cont.......

Regardless of his correctness. Please look at your own heart and find out if you value cool music more than the truth. 1st commandment

Okay, I gotta comment on the MWS bit. You play one moment, from one song, and then you declare his work devoid of Evangelism? I've seen the man live, he does things like this periodically between songs, but he is evangelising throughout his entire show. Seriously, don't cherry pick so you can smear. NOW, on with the show! Maybe we'll see more racism.

Just think, if this guy could have all these artists removed as he wishes...How many souls would not have been saved and reconciled back to God? Thousands upon thousands....

Boy, Rw, u've really let him have it there, firing from the hip.

So what he saying is what I understand is that this song that you're saying doesn't come out of the hymn book from church that is the devil if its rock n roll this has anything to do with rock n roll that is the devil even know that it me feel good it's the devil thats the biggest lie I've ever heard

Saying Christian rock is evil because non-Christians play rock is like saying mustaches are bad cause Hitler had one.

cont... I see some are here breathing fire. This only shows that their lies hav been exposed and the truth really does hurt. Thank you so much for making this program and exposing the deception of todays so-called christians. These people are neither followers of Christ nor Christ like. They are of the world, for the world, and will attack, insult, mock, and lie to defend the world and whats in it. Millions of young man and woman have fallen victim to their lies and false teachings... cont

@homeless018 There's one thing to know the truth about things and always doing them. I'm human too. I don't do everything he lives by. I study history and books like the Bible to have knowledge. I never deny Christ or what He did for you and me.

Man this stuff is like fifty freaking years old

@neutrocity Who says the reason young ones listen to rock and metal has to be psychological? You ask 100 teenagers why they listen to a particular band and I guarantee you that more than half of them will say for the musical aspect. It is NOT the music that produces a positive or negative influence, but the lyrical content.

How can so called Christians sing that kind of music. As a Christian I want to escape it.

@juntao37 Wow. Your comments are uncalled for.

@Rawk4Life why not country or blues? because i haven't heard of christian rap which wouldn't make any sense at all and rock and metal he explained why those are evil, also me and my friends actually enjoy some of the traditional hymns and so called "kiddie songs" and in blues and country there isn't people screaming with demonic hand signs while wearing face paint that makes them look like something you'd find in hell

Yes. I've already made this point on his other vids. Like the Galatians, legalism came in, and the joy went out. But then again, he has to live with it - we dont. Amen?

i agree with some of what you say, but the bit about Petra, totally off base. The points you try to connect are serious stretches.

Oh my. I have wasted so much of the Lord's valuable time listening to this man. I'm going to listen to some Christian Rock and worship the Lord for a while, now that I have sinned by being judgmental. Lord I repent for being judgmental against the fellow who made this video. Lord I thank you for your scripture which is truth. I ask that others seek truth in your Word and not the words of man. Glory be to God above! Praise to Jesus and also the Holy Spirit that is with in me.

Well put Petrafan. The devil actually has to buy an instrument, write a song, record it , put a copyright on it, then market it. Sounds ammusing, but u cant look at it any other way.

Petra's name came from "Peter", or, "Rock". However, Carman was definitely wrong.

I would prefer to emphasize Jn. 6:44 "No one can come to me except the Father ...draw him..." The Father does the drawing. We jsut get on with doing what we do, using any gifts and abilities, "doing all as unto the Lord". This is better - and easier - a lot less stressful than trying to save people ouselves.

This is the type of guy who claims EVERYTHING is evil; don't do anything like see movies or anything besides sit at home and read the bible

So what we're looking at here is a subjective opinion: "silly music" , "silly....bands".

My generation get excited when we think about how big our God is. We want to praise him with a loud noise. The bible says we should do so. Some who dosen't like Rock might consider it to be a loud noise and well then I think it can qualify for worship! What about worshiping him with drums cymbals and harps. well there were't any electric guitars back then but a guitar is a stringed instruments so again it qualifies for praising him. Just because you don't like the music does not make it evil.

bahahahahaha, oh boy.

No my friend, what this guy is saying is HIS opinion on the matter. I am a born again believer of Jesus Christ and I love Christian rock. This guy has some very good points because there ARE many so called Christian rock artist out there who are crooked in some ways. I would put a TON of money on it that this guy knows NOTHING about music and therefore he is putting ALL Christian rock music in the same category which is wrong. This guy would probably put the band Kutless in the a same category.

I've read some write-ups by CoC regards that. It's nuts. I've read somewhere that CoC could have cult status. They have quite a number of eroneous beliefs.

@anifbim But Rock and Roll started in the Black American Church. Why can't anyone believe that?? There's churches like that today. They do exist, they existed for about 80 years.

umm...I think they should be drawn by the biblical message

Impending Doom is a Christian metal band that speaks the truth, past these posing tv evangelists' absence of understanding. At the end of the day, the only thing that really mattered was who made a bigger effort to save a soul? A TV evangelist selling a book?? or a band speaking to teens about how we live in a world of hate and how Christ is greater than any satanic influence? I don't know about you, but if it glorifies my God, i don't know what else to say to you people

Typical of most anti-Christian Contemporary Music critics. They take some of the worst examples of the genre and imply that their message is typical of all Christian music. They ignore all kinds of really good and wonderful God pleasing music that's in the CCM genre (for example, Rich Mullins' "I See You" and "Awesome God"). As with all genres of music, there are songs that are good, and those that are not as good, or even bad.

Most people I have run into that truly believe this and teach it just simply don't like or understand the music and so they have trouble comprehended that anything good could come from it and understandably if you look at most of the people in it and the corruptions it has brought with it. but 1000 if lives have been transformed and save. Whole generations of souls that would have otherwise been lost. people that the church could not reached

There are a couple of absurd comments here. "Music is made for one purpose, to give glory to God." But nowhere are we told where the Bible says that. And to take a small snippet from Michael W. Smith and critisise it because he's not sharing the Gospel is dreadfully skewed. Godwin spends plenty of time here likewise not sharing the Gospel. Doesn't that mean he's wrong too?

@ministercreek And you believe him? If rock and roll is so dangerous like he claimed, Bowie would have done a disservice to himself by engaging in it. He is speaking out of ignorance to believe that rock and roll is evil, but is ok with being involved in the genre.

If we should laugh at ourselves, but not at anyone in the Bible, does that mean no one in the Bible could laugh at themselves? O.o I mean, if I was Gideon, I would have looked back (after the battle) at myself testing the Lord, and I would have laughed at my lack of belief and my need for more signs.

Video number 4! I am still entertained. Also Christian Rock sucked back during the eighties and early nineties.

If Christian rock, rap, CCM, and metal are all evil, what kind of music would a guy like Jeff expect to draw the youth to the kingdom? It definitely won't be from traditional hymns and watered down kiddie songs.

Cont..I'm probably younger than most people here, but this video showed how I have seen these modern day "christian" rock, rap, country etc... according to the teachings of the Bible. They have cast out the power of God, in faith and righteousness through the holy word of God, and have replaced it with their own do it yourself salvation plans. Some of their biggest pastors blaspheme the name of God with terms like "Gods Crazy love". Smooth words, aspiring speeches, catchy phrases..demonic. Cont.

@anifbim Dude, there is no rock music in the Bible. You can't judge it by the Bible. It's the matter of conscience. The scripture for conscience (one of them) is Romans 14. That makes me right if I worship my Lord with my style of music.

Who pays you ?

i feel sorry that you believe that hope you find the truth. God bless

shane you are right.Rock will never bring obedience but neither will a shirt and tie or southern gospel or hymns or preachers or religion or rules and laws made by religion.....only a heart towards God and and a choice to obey what the bible says and not mans opinion. Your right about its not about a feeling. If you just get a good feeling about God from any form of music thats all you get. southern gospel can feed the flesh of a person that listens to country. to much opinion going on here.

Now the pope said that he agree with homosexual and lesbian marriage

I am guessing you have met and talked these to all of these bands? I don't need to meet them. I listen to the music, read the lyrics and watch the interviews and look at their websites. By the way I have met some Christian rock bands in person, when I thought they were good .I never said I was better than you. Did you read my comments. I am CONCERNED. I would like to know which Christian rock bands you are defending. I know not every single band is false. Please use discernment brother.

Carman's performances are parables. It seems I remember someone else using parables. Jesus spoke mainly in parables. This man is knocking Carman for using a biblical practice.

I think you're that we dont want to make idols of music artists,however re your other comments, i must be one of the fortunate ones to have over 1000 songs written by christians that dont promote any of those traits u wrote of.

Another testimony of how fundamentalism puts people off from coming to Christ.

The only “Rock” is JESUS CHRIST ❤️

I agree with your points I believe if your going to be there you better present the gospel and whiteness but what they are doing is just rocking out and that is it .

The nineties were so lukewarm!

3:40 Phoney Baloney? really?

I know, its stupidity gone into seed. Handel's Messiah, sounds much like the other classic composers too, some of them unsaved too.

I love how short video clips can be used to say that this is all there is and nothing else that would contradict your opinion can be found anywhere! Wrong! Petra was a place of sin? It is also the Greek word for rock, as in the rock of salvation and rock and roll. That's where it came from, Smartypants. Christian musicians go to the world for their music? And you go to where for your KZread videos? Oh, that great tradition of television evangelists? I hope you're laughing at yourself now!

I agree with most of what is being said here, however, I must disagree on the assessment of Carman & claims of blasphemy. I have never been a fan of CCM music bc it is CCM is a farce & is as the narrator relays. Out of all the CCM artists, Carman is the ONLY one not to sell out to the pressure of the recording companies. He refused to "crossover" which is what the record companies push the "christian" artists to do after they gain some popularity. This is the compromise, & the sell-out. They all do it. However, Carman refused. Carman often states once he became saved, his talents would only be used for God & the saving of souls. His music & sales were used to finance his ministry (he states "Carman the artist supports Carman the evangelist"). Hence, even though he was hugely popular, the record companies dropped him. For over a decade he couldn't get a record company to sign him bc he wouldn't compromise. He finally produced his own records, at the risk of financial ruin. The gang video, "Resurrection Rap" I felt was in poor taste, however, Jesus was accosted by a mob, which would be akin to gangs. The man in the video attacked by the mob was NOT a gang member, but was attacked by a mob (gang). Jesus was beaten, whipped, stabbed, & crucified in the 'garbage dump' of the day - Galgotha. The man attacked in the video was similarily treated, in modern terms. The 2nd video of Carman at a show was just plain silly. It was in the early 80's. Carman has evolved tremendously since. His music & shows have grown far more reverent & worshipful of Christ. The 3rd video seen in entirety is totally about spiritual warfare, pulling down Satan's strongholds, & revival. It is a theatrical narrative, not a Sunday morning church service. Yes, the comments on Carman were taken out of context.

If heaven is full of this guy, then send me to hell. if there's no rock in heaven, then send me to hell. if this guy is what a true Christian is, then maybe I've been tuned into the wrong side.

You really must take things out of complete context.

We need to pray for this guy. God gave these musicians GIFTS, what are they supposed to do, 'Break their fingers"? "Cut their tongues out"? "Tell God 'sorry Lord, christianboots says I can't do this' "? You can't have a sense of humor, you gotta sit in a hard wood chair, read your' bible, pray, and only eat manna sent from Heaven! I truly wish he'd have shown 'whole' clips, & not small portions that support his ridiculous claims. I'm sorry I even watched this man. Jesus Rocks!

This guy looks like he is melting, I mean look at his face. Or having a stroke.

the music your showing is so outdated plz show something wes actually listen to 2012

"Acultic special effects"!? Really?

@starlost1957 Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

Amen!!! God looks at the heart and knows the intent of the musicians. What about instrumental rock??? Funny you should say you play guitar in church because the Church of Christ believes instruments used in worship is sinful in the New Covenant.

This excellent video is bound to get a lot of flack. Why? FEW there are that find the way of Truth (the narrow path) and MANY choose the road that seems to lead to Heaven but in reality leads to Hell. Every minute about 100 people die and almost that many go to Hell. If it looks like the world, smells like the world, feels like the world, and sounds like the world .... GUESS WHAT--- IT IS OF THE WORLD-- DUH!

PETRA MEANS ROCK Wow this guy in the video really needs to read the Bible. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus says, "I also say to you that you are Peter*, and upon this rock** I will build my church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it." *Greek Petros, a stone **Greek petra, large rock, bed-rock And by the way, the rock (petra) referred to in the verse is our belief in Jesus; basically Christianity. So I rest my case that Petra got their name from the Word of God, not a pagan city.

Thank you for telling the Truth. It is the spirit of Satan all over this world. Souls are being lost an given to wolfs. Very sad that the majority of musicians are about money and not serve the King of Kings, the Christ. You know only the wise will see!

cont.....where did "the love of money is the root of all evil" come into this ? Doesnt relate. I think this clip is baloney, like all the others. AHHH, he gets sneaky again: One of my main points: notice he used the pagan city called Petra, to sleight the band Petra? We know Petra (band) chose that word 'coz it = 'rock' in Greek - a ref. to what Jesus said.. "upon this rock" for instance, and i believe that JG knew this, 'knowing that Christians are taught this early in their walk...cont...