What's Wrong with Christian Rock Part 2

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  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Yes. He has put himself up as "I know it all" , "God has made me judge". A modern day Pharisee.

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @cesar37
    @cesar3714 жыл бұрын

    wow ! ! ! THESE VIDEOS HAVE THOUGHT ME A LOT ! ! THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT . . . ITS SO TRUE

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    prayed 4 u again today. all the best, dear Stephanie. Luv, Phil

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Hey fyrfysh77 - thats a great testimony - it just goes to show that people get saved by hearing Gods Word by many ways and avenues. God Bless Friend. PK

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Amen. Praise the Lord.

  • @Willmc14
    @Willmc1410 жыл бұрын

    Michael W. Smith's name appears backwards on the other side of that album because the front cover shows him looking into a mirror! Mirrors show writing backwards!

  • @thewackonetwork7844

    @thewackonetwork7844

    10 жыл бұрын

    Yeah! But to judge mental people like him its just something they wanna run with. I have never seen such a false teaching of God then coming from him and people like him.

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    yea i want to do that to please remember me in your prayers i need a job i have great plans to do things but hardly any money at all? even tho im young

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I remember discovering this passage at work many years ago. Its a favourite of mine. U can see that vs.3 tells us what we were, then vss 4 -7 tells us what God Himself has done for us in Christ. In vs 8a, Paul says "affirm these things constantly" ( confess positively all the time-(great advice)), then vs8b, "that they which believed in God might be careful to maintain good works". Of course, these good works flow out of our new nature - because God has already made us 'good'.Cont....

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Man, that was well put jpsyr. That one slipped under my radar.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Great quote.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure , dear one.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure, dear Stephanie.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Screamo? Yeah, i think screamo is something u like or u dont. I've downloaded a handful of songs with a screamo effect, but i just editted those screams out of the song using computer editing tools, and then i find it nicer for me to listen to. Your name cruz? are you south american?

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    wow, well put.

  • @donmcc6573
    @donmcc65736 жыл бұрын

    What do these T-Shirts have to do with Christian rock?

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    is the great afterlife we will enjoy with our heavenly father

  • @MrAirportDave
    @MrAirportDave13 жыл бұрын

    Just went to the Jeff Godwin Archive on Google, the page is blank, now that is saying something - LOL.

  • @vagabondsoul
    @vagabondsoul13 жыл бұрын

    Man, this is some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen on the internet.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom11 жыл бұрын

    Good on ya' JAM. It's sounds like u got a good balance in these matters. Cheers

  • @canaanbobb6999
    @canaanbobb69994 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of the houseplant song by Audio Adrenaline

  • @jasongibson3496
    @jasongibson34969 ай бұрын

    That is why I listen to Sandi Patty , 4 Him, Twila Paris, Steve Green, Larnelle. I also listen to Southern Gospel. The Hoppers. The Crab Family, and Bill and Gloria Gaither.

  • @CrysDawn
    @CrysDawn11 жыл бұрын

    AMEN & AMEN!! 3 CHEERS FOR JESUS!! God bless those who stand up for God and deliver the truth!! It's true... all this stuff we see happening all around us is sure the sign of the times! God says for us to watch and be aware. It is no surprise to me seeing people's negative responses on here cause people just don't want to hear about REPENTANCE!! God has standards for born again believers and He tells us to come out and be ye separate!!! GOD SAYS BE YE HOLY AS I AM HOLY!!!

  • @DyLaNC180
    @DyLaNC18011 жыл бұрын

    How is third day?

  • @Constantdoodle
    @Constantdoodle14 жыл бұрын

    what are youre views on P.O.D. They sing about positive things. they really seem like a christian band to me...

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Dear kibaya (Stephanie). I just picked your response up tonight. Would luv 2 pray 4 u. My wife & I have a little ministry praying 4 others & have seen many results. Will pray 4 u to get work, sweetheart. Luv Phil.

  • @Rawk4Life
    @Rawk4Life13 жыл бұрын

    How could this guy not laugh when he said "Jesus did not polish a surf board?"

  • @Breakdown916
    @Breakdown91612 жыл бұрын

    How so?

  • @clcare5563
    @clcare556311 жыл бұрын

    What does Godwiser or Jesus surfing have to do with christian rock?

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Haitie? O. I remember we supported a little boy financially thru' Every Home for Christ, years back. His name was Benave Inquietude.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Did this happen 2 u recently ?

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    well put.

  • @ImYerDadJourdan
    @ImYerDadJourdan11 жыл бұрын

    bahahahaha the hand signs... Still dying... This is funnier than a video that is posted to be funny...

  • @malikzzzzz
    @malikzzzzz12 жыл бұрын

    What makes you say that?

  • @JohannNepgen
    @JohannNepgen10 жыл бұрын

    Oh how i love how he says "am i calling them a satanist, no, i dont know their hearts" but then blasts them.. oh help me!

  • @thewackonetwork7844

    @thewackonetwork7844

    10 жыл бұрын

    Its all about a double standard! And this guy is serious about being nothing more then putting together his own bible.

  • @wormwood438
    @wormwood43811 жыл бұрын

    Where is the hope on your face brother? Where is your light at? where is your smile?

  • @MrNckissfan
    @MrNckissfan8 жыл бұрын

    1:45 - 2:16 is absolutely FUNNY! I couldn't stop laughing. Is this guy the life of the party or what?!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • @johnny10301968
    @johnny1030196812 жыл бұрын

    What kind of music are we supposed to listen to then nothing but organ music in church?

  • @thisisJim85
    @thisisJim8513 жыл бұрын

    @vitaminsandstds "AND WHEN WE SHALL SEE HIM, THERE IS NO BEAUTY THAT WE SHOULD DESIRE HIM. HE is DESPISED and REJECTED of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; HE WAS DESPISED, AND WE ESTEEMED HIM NOT. Surely HE HATH BOURNE OUR GRIEFS, AND CARRIED OUR SORROWS: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted..."

  • @patika000
    @patika00014 жыл бұрын

    Although these arguments are not biblical, I see real anguish behind it for the spiritual health of the church. The motivation is good. I'm a metalhead in Christ and I saythat God bless this pastor.

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael20642 жыл бұрын

    U Are Right On!!

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    The more i have spent time with God and his Word, the more i see we are not supposed to be living by rules. And being 'careful in all that u do' sounds like over- caution and fear of doing the wrong thing.

  • @WhileAKyle85
    @WhileAKyle8514 жыл бұрын

    @dolfangirl1 tell me how you agree with this video???

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Your examples are good. Did u know when music was first introduced in Scotland , someone came up with the idea of using an organ. Back then that one single instrument was called "the devils kettle of whistles". See how we have progressed over the years. Good analogy about the moe.

  • @nschrock273
    @nschrock27314 жыл бұрын

    @Spinsters7 no lyrics are a huge part of music especially the type i do...look up the song Agape by For Today

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    I dont think we really need to 'strive not to be like the world'. There's a better way.A more positive way - knowing that we are "changing from glory to glory" each day, knowing we have a Christ indwelt spirit, knowing with no doubt Gods grace & love towards us - its these things that truly change us, i.e. instead of struggling not be like an unsaved person, we rest in what Christ has made us, and therefore we are changing into his image. Hope this helps. Your friend PK

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Right on.

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    What does it mean to you to have a good character? and would it be alright if i called myself a christian but im dressing like im going to the club? or eating insects its more than calling it cultural but rather gods word still stand how must i be being so disobedient to gods word what does that make me? But no whatever God says we must do because of his grace mercy and because i am blessed i still get to see daylight. -God bless you

  • @NoisyLittleCampers
    @NoisyLittleCampers12 жыл бұрын

    My God, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, is bigger than it all and uses all kinds of means to reach people. The research you have done tells me more about the devil and his ways than about the saving grace of CHRIST. God bless you brother?

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    OK when i say in being careful what i mean is to say not everything in life are sweet and rosy and easy everything is difficult and what do you mean by rules? (Explain Please Briefly) and also when your listening to that kind of christian rock whether gospel? can you really imagine god? or is it just the feelings and emotions? you no there's more to life especially when Jesus said that we will suffer for his sake meaning in struggling in life but what is rewarding

  • @callofdutyguy9
    @callofdutyguy912 жыл бұрын

    1 Thess. 5:21 " Prove all things, Hold fast to which is good"

  • @facelights
    @facelights10 жыл бұрын

    You call it witchcraft, I call it Harry Potter

  • @CrysDawn
    @CrysDawn11 жыл бұрын

    Anytime God says thou shalt not, means it's for our own good!!! Psalm 32:8 > I WILL INSTRUCT THEE AND TEACH THEE IN THE WAY WHICH THOU SHALT GO: I WILL GUIDE THEE WITH MINE EYE.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Hi kibaya. By good character, i meant things like, showing grace, showing love, patience with others, generosity of spirit, honesty when honesty is needed, faithfull to God and our spouses, just to name a few, and these are things are really touch others. And these qualities are cross-cultural too. How u dress by the way is none of my business. Blessings to u. PK

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    absolutely absolutely absolutely right.

  • @vagabondsoul
    @vagabondsoul13 жыл бұрын

    Oh no. I spelled my name backwards the other day. I'm going to hell!

  • @LUK77ACH
    @LUK77ACH13 жыл бұрын

    Who is this guy? Where is this guy from? HE is straight to the point and only spiritually blind.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, pretty right. The great apostle Paul said to the Galatians "where has all your joy gone?" upon his addressing the serious infiltration of Judaizer legalism from up North. Remember, they "started off well" then "who hindered you?" Legalism and rules came in and the joy went out - JG style.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    No worries there dear one.

  • @thisisJim85
    @thisisJim8513 жыл бұрын

    @vitaminsandstds "...But he was WOUNDED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS, he was BRUISED FOR OUR INIQUITIES: the chastisement of OUR PEACE was UPON HIM; and with HIS STRIPES WE ARE HEALED. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every man to his own way; and the LORD hath laid ON HIM the INIQUITY OF US ALL...Yet IT PLEASED the LORD to BRUISE HIM; he hath put HIM TO GRIEF: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin...He shall see the travail of his soul..."

  • @BEEBEE159
    @BEEBEE15913 жыл бұрын

    @MasterOfTheDudeness Some modern day bible translators have suggested that the original writings of Paul and others were most likely written in Hebrew, not Greek. The oldest translations still in existence are in Greek; however, they are most likely translations. The original letters that Paul penned with his own hand do not exist today, so there is no basis for you to say that he wrote his letters in Greek. We don't know that as a fact because his "original" writings do not exist.

  • @Gantiz
    @Gantiz12 жыл бұрын

    This guy is the reason why people think that Christians are boring and humorless. He has all of the emotion of a stick and is looking for reasons to attack Christian Rock.

  • @vcxz52
    @vcxz5210 жыл бұрын

    So far I have to agree

  • @ADanley1980
    @ADanley198011 жыл бұрын

    The "Wiccan Moon" sign as you call it is also the sign for ASL, does that mean every time a deaf person uses the letter Y they are mocking Christ? If you look for Satan you will find him. I do agree with you on some of what you have said. The t-shirts are a bit much, but like some other pastors you look for Satan in all that you do not like. You deliver a good speech. I am not angry or bothered by your opinion, but it is all a bit much.

  • @unusuallynormal231
    @unusuallynormal23111 жыл бұрын

    Its interesting he didn't use Petra as an example of Christian rock. If you listen to Petra, there is NO way you could deny that they're Christian.

  • @Shootark
    @Shootark11 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the good laugh.

  • @koboldlord
    @koboldlord13 жыл бұрын

    I honestly Can't believe that this dude said all this with a stright face. I'm sure Jack Chick is proud.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    I had trouble with all his points.

  • @ghoustfox
    @ghoustfox12 жыл бұрын

    what if listening to this music is listening how other people saluting the devil were not doing it were just listening and watching other people do it, they ken do whatever they want, me am just trying to spend this life peacefully.

  • @bigdaddyc1968
    @bigdaddyc196813 жыл бұрын

    This dude needs to lighten up a lot!!!!

  • @1kozmon
    @1kozmon13 жыл бұрын

    @Hetra01 Are you not able to see how 2 Timothy 4:3-4 can just as easily be turned on yourself? Whenever someone has something to shoot down, this is one of those texts that gets so often abused. I believe brother Jeff means well and is honestly seeking to help others strive for righteousness, but this guilt by association argument is just disappointing and does not take enough into account. Please explain how Revelation 18:4 relates to the genre of "rock" music as opposed to the future event.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    I must admit i was being a bit sarcastic, asking has this been your experience. Sorry. I think i interpreted your quote as thats what all christians do if they listen to any form of modern music. I could be wrong - u may have been talking about Jeff.

  • @kibayacruz9674
    @kibayacruz967412 жыл бұрын

    btw i didnt say from christian rock i said rock heavy metal screamo? we all have our experience i wasn't raised up with the gospel in my teenage years so much and only god knows? just imagine it?

  • @BEEBEE159
    @BEEBEE15913 жыл бұрын

    @MasterOfTheDudeness You have a good point there. That makes sense :)

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what u mean by 'legit'.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @Game-Preacher
    @Game-Preacher13 жыл бұрын

    @Bibledefender4u that applies to these guys as well

  • @journeymnme
    @journeymnme12 жыл бұрын

    Ephesians 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you." LOVE

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    It is

  • @mhaseth
    @mhaseth11 жыл бұрын

    I cant watch this without laughing XD

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, i've heard it all. No idea why he does it.

  • @darrylgonzalez5251
    @darrylgonzalez525111 ай бұрын

    6:06 Incorrect. The Horned Hand sign has multiple meanings. It DOES NOT always mean allegiance to Satan. In some countries in Europe, it is considered an offensive gesture similar to "flipping the bird" at someone. In sporting events for the University of Texas, it's called the Hook 'em Horns sign, and it's a common greeting from one Longhorns fan to another. Every football game day when the Longhorns are playing at their home stadium in Austin, Texas, you can see hundreds of thousands of people using that sign. I hope the rest of your research was better than this.

  • @wormwood438
    @wormwood43811 жыл бұрын

    I never grew up in a christian home or read a bible or knew anything about church growing up. And I didn't believe in God either. But I bet my eternal salvation on the love of Jesus to save me from my sin and my poor decisions in life. The Lord only condems us to bow and worship idles or other gods but these things are just traditions in our culture taking place. In our church this easter we will celebrate Christ being raised from the dead and not easter eggs.

  • @freewaygodzilla6024
    @freewaygodzilla60249 жыл бұрын

    I remember his books man they dont work to well as toilet paper

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely right here. I commented somewhere else on this. It shows a lot of immaturity here when JG makes his judgements about others on how one looks. Very foolish. The Lord did a number on me about this maybe 5 years ago. I learnt my lesson.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    I think u might be right on that

  • @Endymion7Ra
    @Endymion7Ra12 жыл бұрын

    I am in Love with The Holy Trinity and love the Godwiser shirt...

  • @MPedroful
    @MPedroful13 жыл бұрын

    "Jesus Christ was not a surfer. Jesus was a Jew."

  • @ReilAngler
    @ReilAngler8 жыл бұрын

    christian rock is not satanic it was made to save people from satanic music they share the gospel through rock music. like the band RED they share their everyday life of being a Christian and how much they love God. I'm a Christian and a strong believer of God and Christian rock. it saved me from the dark side and brought me to the light side.

  • @ourlittlemissginny
    @ourlittlemissginny11 жыл бұрын

    I can respect that and appreciate your honesty. My question is why you would bet your "eternal salvation" on doing something condemned by the bible you are supposed to live by. It is a sincere question, no disrespect intended.

  • @MrEiriku
    @MrEiriku13 жыл бұрын

    @BEEBEE159 then why do jews believe in jesus

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    wow - somebody here has an understanding of the bible. I'm impressed at last.

  • @tw4j
    @tw4j11 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree with the understanding of a spirit behind music. I just don't think building the argument on watching every little movement of people's hands is very solid. I'm sure we all make signs with our hands every day that mean something somewhere. The rainbow doesn't mean homosexuality, even though it has symbolized it.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Your right on the money.

  • @LuckyB71
    @LuckyB7111 жыл бұрын

    The "devil" sign he's refering too is used by Itallians to ward off evil. How is that evil?

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    You know we could decide to change the term "rock' or "rock and roll, or "rock'n'roll to something else to categorize its genre. We could call it "post-blues", and the same music will still go on. Another thing, rock and roll is a vague term these days - there's so many sub-genres. One term i use now (most common now) is "progressive rock". PA

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    They are.

  • @2kustom
    @2kustom12 жыл бұрын

    Sounds sound to me.

  • @juggaklown1
    @juggaklown110 жыл бұрын

    you can not judge someone for the music they listen to.. i for one find good in christian rock.. for someone who was struggling with religion and what what is.. music helped me in my journey to find god to seek.. when i was a teenager i didnt understand a lot of the bible.. some i did some i didnt.. i am a born again christian and i love jesus.. dont judge me for the music i listen to or how i dress.. thats profiling.. god says come as you are. you dont need a suit and tie to be a christian. or listen to old gospel music.. all that matters is you find god right? Matthew 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

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