Next watch "Mandaeism: The Last Gnostic Religion?": kzread.info/dash/bejne/doGswayEesXceqw.html

@ramaraksha01

3 жыл бұрын

Primitive backward people making God the best they knew - using their King/Dictator as a template - "We must get down on our knees, swear loyalty & obedience, beg for his mercy and hope for a reward" Little did they know that the so-called for more advanced, intelligent and educated of the 21st century would be blindly following these primitive ideas of theirs If they could see us they would die laughing at our stupidity!

@ramaraksha01

3 жыл бұрын

@@LarzGustafsson God made in the image of the local King/Dictator - the Dictator will reward us with the good life if we beg & grovel to him, obey him & praise him That is how you got your job, right? your promotion? And then there are those who got ahead by polishing their boss's shoes, praising him at every opportunity? What do you call them?

@niccolopaganini1782

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramaraksha01 bruh, I love how you are proud of your incomplete knowledge, and I appreciate how you state your incorrect analogies in such a convincing way, Well, God is not like a leader or dictator, According to the Bible, he is the creator of everything, not a ruler over everything, He rules because He has created everything, not because He is a ruler, And He doesn't want our praise, and see you can curse Him every day and every single moment of your life, it will not harm him even a bit, Boss is not timeless, spaceless or immaterial, neither is a dictator, God is not made, If you are criticizing the Christian God, you don't assume things that are not proven by Christian texts, God is not made, so you are wrong in the very beginning, And you can't explain so many things that exist or have happened, and this makes God the God of gaps, Now lemme clear that as well, something that He is, is personal and intelligent, God is not filling gaps, but is the perfect explanation for the things you can't explain, Thanks P.S. Loving people is so primitive

@zainabbakilana9851

3 жыл бұрын

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@daddurch

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramaraksha01 444

"A Gnostikoi is a nasty boi." -Epiphanius, 4th century C.E.

@GlazeBattleBorn

3 жыл бұрын

Gnostikoi is plural. Gnostikos is singular.

@KonstantineMortis13

3 жыл бұрын

@@GlazeBattleBorn Fascinating. I know that. The joke is in English, so...

@CrownRock1

3 жыл бұрын

@@GlazeBattleBorn Good point. He also misspelled "boy," and his quote is almost certainly not real. OP must be very embarrassed.

@GlazeBattleBorn

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrownRock1 N

@bluecanary1note

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

Wow, so "baby-eaters" is a really traditional insult to throw at one's ideological opponents. I feel so connected with my ancestors!

@ANDROLOMA

3 жыл бұрын

Eat gluten-free babies. They're less fattening.

@ANDROLOMA

3 жыл бұрын

@ckorpi88ify When you were a baby, were you gluten free? Or were you consumed before the glutens were chemically strained out?

@ANDROLOMA

3 жыл бұрын

@ckorpi88ify You're taking all this with more than the usual grain of salt, I see.

@Halloween111

3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. Sounds a lot like what Christians slandered the Jews with (and occasionally still do).

@bosatsu76

3 жыл бұрын

It's a traditional Christian insult... Which makes me wonder... If the pyschological trap of accusing others of what you yourself are doing is valid, then the christian church is dark indeed.

Gnostics primarily believed that each person should have their own experience of God (or anything else). Dogma and doctrine were held to be undesirable.

@haydencapps

3 жыл бұрын

The same thing that Satanists believe

@davemiller6055

3 жыл бұрын

@@haydencapps According to the church that managed to elbow all the others out of the limelight, yes. In reality, no.

@davemiller6055

3 жыл бұрын

@Being Human According to the church that managed to elbow all the others out of the limelight, yes. In reality, no.

@bubbercakes528

3 жыл бұрын

So Gnostics were truly good Americans!

@S3aCa1mRa1n

3 жыл бұрын

Eww sounds too much free thinking, let's have none of that, -Vatican and Orthodox Church.

That fedora in the background troubles me

@johncardono8056

3 жыл бұрын

Robot fedora

@solo_majolo639

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, yeah didn't age well

@pilouuuu

3 жыл бұрын

What? He is like a religious Indiana Jones, looking for divine treasures.

@robertsquint88

3 жыл бұрын

It is gnostic fedora made from babies

@RyokoLeonheartBLACK

3 жыл бұрын

snake approaching Eve to help her achieve enlightenment, "m'lady"

I think you forgot the most important thing about the Gnostics... "Gnosis" means experiential knowledge. The Gnostics were more interested in actual communion, or experience of God than a belief system or doctrine. This is why they were called Gnostics.

@pheresy1367

6 жыл бұрын

Narcissism of small differences? I don't buy that for a moment. They represented radically different approaches to spirituality. The orthodoxy which was more interested in hierarchy and control wouldn't abide with their anti authoritarian egalitarian, mystical neighbors, so they basically hunted them down and exterminated them.

@diegomacarthur271

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately this video missed the number one most important aspect of Gnosticism and it's true defining attribute: complete and total distrust of authority. THAT is why there was no "Church of Gnosticism", why all the various writings emphasise different things and tell different stories, and most importantly that is why the were so hated and feared. They could see that the Church was cynical and corrupt to the core, focused only on temporal power and population control and had no interest in providing spiritual enlightenment to the masses. They saw that the only path to spiritual fulfillment was a personal and internal one, and people claiming to be religious authorities were just one more stumbling block in the road.

@debralucas2224

5 жыл бұрын

@@diegomacarthur271 The concept of spiritual growth is still not well known .. It seems to me that the church was about fear and control right from the get go.

@devontecaples1993

5 жыл бұрын

P Heresy is that why Romans KILLED EVERYONE TO SPREAD CATHOLICISM?

@TheRachaelLefler

5 жыл бұрын

The Romans used Catholicism as a noble lie/scam to save their dying empire in the 300s AD, they made up a religion based on the growing-popular cult of Jesus. Taking some things they believed, mixing it with Pagan beliefs. It became a tool for power, to funnel money and political influence from Northern Europe to Rome. Worked until Martin Luther had to come along and muck it all up. Heh.

Heresy literally means in Greek : " ABLE TO CHOOSE"

@nunodasilva6112

4 жыл бұрын

@Harry Waddington so, religion?

@r_A_ven

4 жыл бұрын

@Harry Waddington id even be as bold as to claim "all of the big world religions" ;)

@Sicilianus

4 жыл бұрын

Raven no, Catholicism is the true religion

@avijeetification

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sicilianus Islam is the only true religion

@memelordmarcus

4 жыл бұрын

@@avijeetification Pastafarianism is the true religion.

I find it doubtful you will read this message after years but thank you for a quick summary. I have been pouring over so much gnostic information I wanted someone to help it all make sense. Thank you so very much!

@epiphanyx3705

Жыл бұрын

What is your conclusion? I can help . & point you to some information that will make it very clear if you still search.

@airscoutborne

Жыл бұрын

@@epiphanyx3705 I'd like to know if the the nag hammadi is older than the bible

@epiphanyx3705

Жыл бұрын

@@airscoutborne If you want to work I can point you to good teacher on esoteric Christianity, anything else is mere curiosity .

@Tom-sd9jb

Жыл бұрын

Gnosticism, to me, comes across as being at high risk of being a foundation for death cults.

@foreverpure8975

11 ай бұрын

Check out mythvison and gnostic informant

you have NO IDEA how much I appreciate you for doing this video AND actually offering something to read and google to go on the search

Thanks for a super informative video. "The Narcissism of Small Differences" was a great thing to highlight. Bless you!

@zacharypayne4080

3 жыл бұрын

Nostasism...

@KaiHenningsen

3 жыл бұрын

In fact, that's why there are several thousand Christian denominations today. Because the NoSD makes them split over trivialities, again and again and again.

@defordefor9865

3 жыл бұрын

@@KaiHenningsen Makes perfect sense because these religious groups are competing between each other for attention of the same demographic group, using very similar tools (very similar theology). It's like Pepsi fights against Coca-Cola, not Mars, for example :-)

@enape311

3 жыл бұрын

We can’t assume orthodoxy but many secular historians assume the equal validity of diverse Christian viewpoints. It doesn’t seem necessary to examine weather there was an orthodox original view point of Christianity. Even from a non Christian perspective logic would suggest there might be.

@enape311

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure it’s a great thing to highlight. Is the difference between a God incarnate who suffered for human sin a small difference from a dualistic God who saves with secret knowledge? He along with many history channel historians assume each diverse Viewpoint is equal to the next except the orthodox viewpoint that muscled its way to victory. Gnostic texts take a non Christian theology and puts it into a Christian story. It’s just not correct to suggest that gnostic view were there from the beginning.

What I love about your videos is, I have no idea what you believe. You keep it factual and about the subject matter. So many of my professors have a difficult time keeping their opinions away from the classroom. I don't study religuon, but political science. I'm there to learn not to be be preached to. Keep it up.

@elementneon

Жыл бұрын

If he is anything like myself, the greater the amount of research, the less I am beholden to any one ideal or belief system.

@Alansworstnight

Жыл бұрын

@@elementneon yeah it's all a bunch of cope

@michaelmayhem350

Жыл бұрын

The only thing worth believing is that nobody exists in purpose nobody belongs anywhere everybody's gonna die.

@jojojacques810

Жыл бұрын

Yes! That is soooo important! It really jars me when there is obvious bias! I want to make up my own mind! I don’t want to be told what to think, just how to think! 🙏

@johnbarker256

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmayhem350 what is it worth

My master's thesis in social psychology was very close to this: I studied the Black Sheep Effect (which is the measurably harsher punishments we give to deviant in-group members than to outgroup members). I'd be happy to forward you some articles on that, if you're interested! :)

@Pedro14ceara

Жыл бұрын

Are you Brazilian? What's the name of the article, I thought it sounds interesting

@Yeshuaschild93

Жыл бұрын

Sounds awesome! Bet it was great

@williamburgess10

9 ай бұрын

I’m interested

@witnessarmy1576

8 ай бұрын

I'm interested 🙏🏽

@scoutylugs

8 ай бұрын

Slavery is bad… mmmmmkay!

When one leaves out "compassion" one will never find the truth or understand they even found the truth. For only true honest compassion will know a liar.

@thumperboots5087

3 жыл бұрын

Nicely said.👍

@skaetur1

3 жыл бұрын

Be wary of those who claim to have the path to truth. Be even more wary of those who claim large groups of others are liars.

@1Infeqaul1

3 жыл бұрын

@@skaetur1 Only compassion will find your true self. Indeed be wary of those who claim any authority, even in the name of Man's God, where the child has named their Father. People do not understand, a relationship with God is very personal. If one ever finds God, they will be just that one and God, no others. Only the one can choose to be with the true Creator for the true Creator can not choose the one. No man, women,book or words will show you the way, for the corruption has beat you to the truth and thus corrupted any truth on this earth. Believe me if the true creator wanted authority, this world would be so much different and we would not be having this kind of conversation ever.

@TarzanArmani007

3 жыл бұрын

@@skaetur1 what about mainstream religions

@patrickmcdaniel8123

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Infeqaul1 Excellent comment. Thank you for posting.

The Gnostics were the ones who thought "eating Christ " was absurd

@doriesse824

4 жыл бұрын

Right, but why do today's Gnostic churches practice it?

@enriquepenanieto4398

4 жыл бұрын

They also ate children.

@doriesse824

4 жыл бұрын

@@enriquepenanieto4398 Where is the proof of that?

@1d10tcannotmakeusername

4 жыл бұрын

@@doriesse824 I think he's one of those polemics trying to compare the Gnostics to the Mystery Babylon religion.

@Enki1013

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the Roman Empire propaganda machine also used that to sway public opinion against early Christians (because they wouldn't bow down to the emperor as a god). I have my disagreements with Christianity and Christians, but by all known accounts, none of the thousands of factions were ever a cannibalistic cult, but accusations of cannabalism made it easy to feed them to wild animals for public sport.

The creator of this video is an incredibly gifted and intelligent public speaker. Please continue to make similar videos in the future.

@stumeister5507

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@dickflinghammer7643

5 жыл бұрын

You are impressed by this? You know nothimg.

Wow! This was very informative and helpful. Thank you for your brilliant and nuanced discussion of Gnosticism.

This is an amazing channel, thank you for your work!

Thank you so much for bringing this level of education to KZread on early historical religious and philosophical thought and the confluence of it all I can't tell you how grateful I am for your channel Thank you for this video

Have fallen in love with ur discussions. So easy to listen to and understand 😊 Thank u 🙏

I thought this was more informative than most things I see about this subject , I appreciate that , I am someone who falls between two schools of thoughts , I think of my self as a spiritual person who used to call my self Christian , but not quite Gnostic Christian either , I would say I am Still in the process of learning all religions, as much as possible, from Sikhism to mystical Judaism. But more than that I see science as not a way to discount God but a way to show God’s work ,the problem is how we see our creator , as a thing , person , or energy Ism still learning and fallowing the path to find peace , but smart enough to know I can’t know all but I can try to understand more . I will do that forever til my last breath 😇

@MrLibertyFighter

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Well-said!

@SDawg-ik1sz

9 ай бұрын

Be not deceived God is light and in him is no darkness, repent and believe in the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ

@swedwhede6789

2 ай бұрын

@@SDawg-ik1szlearn every religion and understand all belief systems, If what you say is true then there is no risk in understanding all religions. How would you possibly be making the right choice any other way?

@Loan.Arranger

28 күн бұрын

… “A spiritual person who used to call myself Christian, but not quite gnostic”… You’re speaking my lingo. 😊

This was very well put together, thanks for going into original sources with nuance.

I was introduced to the concept of Gnosticism by, of all things, a video game. Xenogears for the Sony PlayStation. I have long since been curious about the deeper meaning of Gnosticism and decided to search for its meaning in depth. I wanted an unbiased breakdown of the concept and after a lot of "polemics" I felt somewhat discouraged. I want to thank you for your in depth description. I now fully understand a basic concept of Gnosticism thank you.

@TheRachaelLefler

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know why but Japanese pop culture seems awash in Gnostic thinking. Whenever you find deep, philosophical anime and japanese games, it's always Gnostic or Shinto at the core of the philosophy. It may be because of some overlap between Gnostic and Buddhist ideas. But I think of Madoka and Evangelion as Gnostic, rather than Buddhist, though I suppose you could argue that their message is either or neither.

@TheMimitwo

4 жыл бұрын

Origins of Gnosticism

@Soulshine711

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRachaelLefler if you look deep with all of these wisdom traditions they all align with a deep wisdom that transcends what can be described in words

@ulyssesm.daniels6927

Жыл бұрын

Xenosaga introduced me too it.

@jfv26

Жыл бұрын

I’m here because of Persona/SMT.

Loving the hard work and research you put into your videos! You are awesome!

Love this channel, detailed and informative

Thank you for explaining this to me.Were it not for you, I never would have known. May God bless you and keep you safe. Bonnie

So informative and interesting to listen to! Keep going! When I’m no longer a lowly university student, I’ll be sure to support

I’ve flirted with Gnosticism, but finding out that the monad is important in it really struck me. I’ve been fascinated with the concept of the monad from mathematics

@ceesno9955

Жыл бұрын

This point that you made. Is why I am confident that Gnostics were Christian philosophers

@Sumkneegrow

11 ай бұрын

And I've flirted with women who would then Monad me

@mojus2890

9 ай бұрын

​​@@ceesno9955yes? Did you even read the writings of Tertullian? Even back then, close to two thousand years ago, philosophical ideas had been used to warp the texts. That is, they add philosophical ideas and propose truths veiled, etc.

@AntiTheBird

9 ай бұрын

@@mojus2890all of the texts are warped, Matthew, Mark and Peter are all postulating Ebionitism, Luke John and Paul are clearly trying to establish the Proto-Orthodoxy, the heretical texts are siding with the Gnostics, most are not even written by who they say they are, everyone is biased.

@ready1fire1aim1

9 ай бұрын

[Hebrews 11 Names of God Bible 3 Faith convinces us that God created the world through his word. This means what can be seen was made by something that could not be seen.] Is the Monad (first emanation of God) the zero-dimensional space holding our quarks together with the Strong Nuclear Force? Leibniz's "The Monadology" is a philosophical work that explores the concept of monads as indivisible, immaterial substances that make up the fabric of reality. While the notion of monads is primarily philosophical and not directly related to modern physics, I can attempt to draw a connection between some of Leibniz's ideas and the strong nuclear force holding quarks together. Here are seven points of connection you could consider: 1) Indivisibility and Unity: Leibniz's monads are indivisible and lack parts. In a similar vein, quarks are elementary particles, indivisible according to our current understanding, and are the building blocks of hadrons, the particles held together by the strong force. 2) Interconnectedness: Leibniz's monads are interconnected, each reflecting the entire universe from its own perspective. In particle physics, the strong force binds quarks within hadrons, creating a complex interconnected system of particles. 3) Inherent Properties: Monads possess inherent perceptions and appetitions. In particle physics, quarks are associated with intrinsic properties like color charge, which influences their interactions through the strong force. 4) Harmony: Leibniz describes monads as creating harmony in the universe. Similarly, the strong nuclear force maintains stability within atomic nuclei by balancing the repulsive electromagnetic forces between positively charged protons. 5) Pre-established Harmony: Leibniz's concept of pre-established harmony suggests that everything is synchronized by design. In particle physics, the strong force ensures that quarks interact in ways that give rise to stable particles, exhibiting a form of "harmony" in their interactions. 6) Non-Mechanical Interaction: Leibniz's monads interact non-mechanically through perceptions. In the context of the strong force, quarks interact through the exchange of gluons, which doesn't follow classical mechanical rules but rather the principles of quantum field theory. 7) Holism: Leibniz's emphasis on the holistic nature of reality could be compared to the way quarks contribute to the overall structure and behavior of hadrons through their interactions mediated by the strong force. Question: What is the difference between the postulated soul (no spatial extension, zero size and exact location only) and quarks (mass with no size measured in Megaelectron Volts)?

Excellent video: engaging presentation, solid facts and examples, expansive coverage!

Dude.. Congrats, and thank you for this extremely helpful explanation. This is a brilliant, clear and concise unpacking of a very difficult subject to fully grasp or find congruency.

Thank you for your depth of research, and understanding. I like these videos.

>slander I resent that! Slander is spoken, in print it's libel

@citizenvulpes4562

4 жыл бұрын

@@septimus9764 you don't get the reference.

@wellthismachinekills3809

4 жыл бұрын

"You don't trust anyone, that's your problem."

@damongardiner4133

4 жыл бұрын

@@wellthismachinekills3809 DTA don't trust anyone that's the only way to live!

@hellwithit

4 жыл бұрын

damon gardiner everybody has someone who they truly think they can trust. Even you. But don’t trust me on that. lol

@bobablaw1298

4 жыл бұрын

I’d hear that from my dad growing up quite frequently. The slander/ libel ordeal, or the less / fewer distinction. Or the too / to / two situation. Now I’m running on......

Have to love how making your enemy out to be a baby muncher is a deep rooted thought that is carried on to this day

@luiscsanchez5534

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@MyChihuahua

3 жыл бұрын

Where there's smoke, there's fire

@sarahhawke5729

3 жыл бұрын

Yea alright!

@yosephbuitrago897

3 жыл бұрын

​@@MyChihuahua Not unless someone is literally just lying about the smoke to make people scared and run away from a supposed fire that they don't see when there actually isn't a fire.

@historysmysteriesunveiled8043

Жыл бұрын

Practitioners of the dark Arts who've learned at the mystery schools have have drink blood All Through the Ages into deep antiquity. How many writings illustrations and examples of eyewitness accounts of this just look up the count of St Germain New Orleans

It’s amazing I never heard of this group of people y’all align exactly with my beliefs an absolutely breakthrough for me I’m excited!!

Thanks, Andrew. This was a thorough, concise and well-presented insight of Valentinian Gnosticism.

I love the amount of research you do on these subjects before making videos. Great work!!

Great content, thanks for your hard work👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Excellent discourse! you have a gift my friend able to transverse through time and ideological mismatch is not easy.. thank you!

This was such a brilliant video, you seem to have managed to wade through the waffle and give it as it is with a seemingly fairly objective approach. About to go and check out the rest of your channel but thanks for this!

So it seems the secret knowledge is the meditation to meet your true self wrapped around your ego. This helps you to always be aware of the true core which gently guides the ego that will live with us as long as our species alive.

@gnosticwarrior2075

4 жыл бұрын

@Mary Gomes YOU are Heresy. Carry on thinking jesus will save you by just blindly believing. We would rather know truths than be told them through a corrupted book.

@fntime

4 жыл бұрын

Lydia, well said. Meditation shows the true self & the ego. The ego is a 'process' of our brain, it can't be eliminated but awareness of our true self helps to 'control' it and recognize its effects.

@eduardovalentin9416

4 жыл бұрын

@@gnosticwarrior2075 What is Truth? For any Christian, Truth is the second person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ. To know Truth is to know Him. Truth is not a set of abstract axioms that you give intellectual ascent to. It is a way of life that involves synchronously living the way of Christ. Protestants, and Western Christianity forgot this. Eastern Christianity never did, hence why ideas like the nous, the essence energies distinction, and theosis are mainstays of Eastern Christian praxis.

@gnosticwarrior2075

4 жыл бұрын

@@eduardovalentin9416 Truth is the endgame of possible outcomes.

@raievepic9967

4 жыл бұрын

To be more accurate, i'll say you that the meditation process is the main way for releasing your own (spirit) from your own material body. But be careful, its sort of dangerous if your not a good person since the Holy spirit of God wont leave it with you; in other words, you will be alone against spiritual principalities and powers.

Thank you so much for an unbiased explanation. ❤️

@benjaminwhitley1986

Жыл бұрын

I second your statement. 😊

Kudos for your comment about nuance. Thanks for the great work.

I used to ask myself this question: How could Adam and Eve be held morally accountable for eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil since they didn`t know the difference between good and evil before they ate the fruit? I later realized that the god of the Adam and Eve story wasn`t the good God, but the unjust and evil demiurge who wanted Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge (gnosis) so they will remain ignorant of themselves and worship him.

@PADARM

4 жыл бұрын

you're on the right track

@justaroot4315

4 жыл бұрын

☝️💯🙏

@jenna2431

4 жыл бұрын

That opinion is what's ignorant. Adam was commanded. This is clearly stated. THAT is the issue--rebellion--just as it has been since then. He gives them the right way to live and they choose their own. She literally "did what was right in her own eyes" as was said of Israel time and time and time and time again. The entire point is that you're free to choose: life and blessing or death and curses. And i guess we see what you like better.

@valentinus7776

4 жыл бұрын

@@jenna2431 But how would Adam and Eve know that obeying God was the good choice and that disobeying God was the evil choice if they didn`t yet eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil.

@mbrp5107

4 жыл бұрын

Why did god created that tree in the first place?

A very well laid out analysis of Gnosticism. Thank you.

"When soul became aware, her behavior transformed. She looked for foods that give life. She learned about her light as she went about stripping off this world, while her true garment clothed her within. She learned about her depth, and ran into her fold, while her shepherd stood at the door. In return for all the shame and scorn she received in the world, she received ten thousand times the grace and glory." Authoritative Teaching

Thanks so much for this, Andrew! Great video, without judging the subject. Really appreciate that. Subscribing....

Simply put. Well done presentation of this information

great video and an amazing way of present the information , love it

@ReligionForBreakfast

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you liked it. I made a sequel of sorts about the Gospel of Judas if you want to check it out.

@jorgegalindo9256

7 жыл бұрын

+ReligionForBreakfast I will, am been trying to go further on knowledge . .. is so amazing

@techniqueswithtodd

6 жыл бұрын

This video certainly has generated one of the most lively threads I've ever seen on youtube. Well done!

@shortstuff7777777

5 жыл бұрын

you dont believe...why do you discuss it then...this guy has not the slightest idea what he is talking about...or he does and he is purposely trying to steer people in the wrong direction...why do people who dont have any idea what they are talking about....even speak....if you dont believe fine...but why do you embarrass yourself ....with fake gnosis....

I really appreciate your videos!

Thank you for this . You did a amazing job!!!!!

Great video!! Will you also cover the history or development of the Coptic Church? Simply curious! Thanks for sharing!

@ReligionForBreakfast

8 жыл бұрын

***** Glad you enjoyed it! I'm also fascinated by the Coptic Orthodox Church. Lot's of rich history to that tradition. I'm sure I can cover it in the coming months!

As always, a very good analysis of a difficult, obscure and complex set of ancient religious ideas and archetypes. Well done!

Direct knowledge of the monad - no need for priests, that's the issue traditional Christians had

@stevilkenevil9960

3 жыл бұрын

There were no traditional Christians back then

@craigvhenry

3 жыл бұрын

The Apocryphon of John 🔭 In your quest for knowledge, let no man teach you except the Master himself, even he who said: 📖 Matthew 23:10 (Canonical New Testament) "Do not be called teachers; for one is your Teacher, the Christ..." 🔍 As a child born of God, you are commanded to seek the hidden kingdom of heaven and warned about many enemies that will stand in your way: 📖 Matthew 7:7 (Canonical New Testament) "Seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you..." 📖 Matthew 13:19 (Canonical New Testament) "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart..." 🎓 Of these kind of false teachers the proverb is true: 📖 2 Peter 3:16 (Canonical New Testament) "There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures..." 💡 Here are the three versions of 'The Apocryphon of John' from the Nag Hammadi library. Read them for yourself and make up your own mind: 📖 Click here to download 'The Apocryphon of John - Frederik Wisse' manuscript... 📚 WORD Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1MAOnF2NEjG3aTOcOatARLU4BQGsQmvOj/view?usp=drivesdk 📚 PDF Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1bZlsuudpBpIcg1Ewh_9y3ZGcrHzako9y/view?usp=drivesdk 📖 Click here to download 'The Apocryphon of John - Stevan Davies' manuscript... 📚 WORD Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1MGRikJXL9Uaur1fZng1NBbc3STHVITbd/view?usp=drivesdk 📚 PDF Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1bT86HidavjVebe36imXiCleOyuGRCJnJ/view?usp=drivesdk 📖 Click here to download 'The Apocryphon of John (Long Version) - Michael Waldstein' manuscript... 📚 WORD Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1MHL-SxutgICQWu2JSt4nKH1oTCAv9Oq_/view?usp=drivesdk 📚 PDF Doc: drive.google.com/file/d/1b_wqFgfjnolqv4Rpx1DWmaBtxqBgkM99/view?usp=drivesdk 📲 For more, visit our Facebook Page: facebook.com/godstablebox/ Click the LEARN MORE button for access to our Cloud Library of Deuterocanonical & Apocryphal Manuscripts, including some of the books removed from the original King James Bible Version of 1611... Click the LIKE button to receive feed... 💕 Lots of Love

@jevonjager1483

2 жыл бұрын

this. You’re Absolutely, Right

Cool i heard about this channel from Fel. Good stuff thank u for studying and presenting information friend

See 75% of JRPGs with T or M ratings for more details. Especially Shin Megami Tensei/Persona and the Xeno series

@smilerpunk922

4 жыл бұрын

Pillage him, Satanael!

@ToaRanen7

3 жыл бұрын

And Castlevania season 3

Great content, as always. Thanks for all you do!

this has to be the best, most energetic presentation of your impressive oeuvre

YOur videos are truly fascinating. I am reading Renan's book on early Christians and his approach is very similar to yours

You had me in the first few minutes. Subscribed.

Interestingly, Mohammed used portions of the Gnostic writings in the composition of his Quran.

@hephopa6573

6 жыл бұрын

Kevin Canuckster His wife family was judeo-christian. So those writings might have been present in his wife family.

@carlm7094

4 жыл бұрын

@@hephopa6573 Mohammed clearly no knowledge of the Gnostic writings. He did not write about lower or lesser GOD. He onlyused the Torah and the main Gospels Matt, Mark, Luke, and John.

@haroonhussein9770

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin canukster. Can you prove that Muhammud pbuh took from gnostic and other writings and composed the Quran. You will never be able to do so. The evidence that the Quran us divinely inspired is overwhelming. It could not and cannot be produced by any human being. That is the Quran, s challenge "" produce a surah(chapter) like unto the quran"". A challenge made over 1400 years ago and not the finest of Arab linguists or anyone else has been able to do it. Please do your research properly before making unfounded claims. By the way Allah s w t says in the Quran" this is not a new message but a reminder and a confirmation of previous scriptures revealed to our messengers. So you see when you believe in One Almighty God then you believe in all his messengers like we Muslims do

@carolreid5405

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Belk Never have. Interesting. Could you quickly summarize it here.?

@checkcheck1579

4 жыл бұрын

I thought he was illiterate.

Wonderful presentation, please do more.

This was great. A fair and balanced view that I've rarely found.

Wonderful video - I’m taking a Christianity class and for the past several months I’ve been looking for content like this so I can better understand the material. Had to sort through all those conspiracy theory videos whenever I look anything up. Now, at the very end of it, I stumble upon you. Dang it KZread!

I have read some of the gnostic gospels. I agree with the way the narrator describes them in this video. Even in the Gospel of John, there is a very strong theme of attaining and growing in knowledge/spiritual understanding.

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

The Gospel of Jesus Christ According to John even ends with what's basically an advertisement for Scriptures about the life of Christ beyond the Synoptic Gospels, like how modern books often end in a bunch of ads for many other books.

@jonathangandara109

4 жыл бұрын

I did some research for an independent study last year. The Gospel of John best seen as a proto-Gnostic text, still orthodox Christian though. Like, some Gnostic communities would have used the Gospel of John as a central theological text. 😄

@bardowesselius4121

2 жыл бұрын

The apostle John wrote against the gnostics in his epistles. The truth is both the orthodox/catholics and the gnostics misinterpret the writings of John to their own destruction. Reading things in his texts he never intended. It always starts with subtle lies.

@romeostojka7232

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathangandara109 no because John 1:14 the word become flesh which shows it’s anti gnostic seems like the writer trying debunk Gnosticism most secular scholar also would agree gospel of John would be gospel which against Gnostics not that it’s gnostic gospel. Even 1 John 4:3 it even says everyone who does not confess Jesus came in flesh is antichrist this doesn’t like that author is gnostic

@TheGuiltsOfUs

2 жыл бұрын

What about Jesus’ younger chinese brother Hong Xiuquan?

Thank you so much for clearing this up for me. Very well explained gnostic video

Hey this was a very useful video for me. I was raised an atheist and found a home in a Baptist church when I entered into foster care. I found bhuddest philosophy when I moved out on my own and I've begun exploring nostic texts. I'm off to check out that library you mentioned and I'm super excited to hear this new creation story. Recently listened to the book of adam that had an interesting g creation story to it. In the book of juda it mentions 27 heavens crazy

@claudetteearle3052

9 ай бұрын

According to the Bible Jesus said, "In my father's house there are many mansions," What do we think this symbolises?

@jigglypuff_foryoutube1700

7 ай бұрын

Hello dear. Why do you no longer believe in Christianity❤️

Ok. That was brilliant. Very excellent interpretation and explanation. Always a pleasure to see your work. Thanks, again, for your contribution. Keep going!

Very well done, and helpful. Thank you!

@ReligionForBreakfast

8 жыл бұрын

+myWCI Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you!

Excellent presentation, thanks much!

You're making my Sunday night interesting.

00:48 The gnostics don't believe in an afterlife. They believe in a heaven, and think 3-dimensional existence is hell. Gnosticism is about practicing spirituality, not faith in the hereafter.

@doriesse824

3 жыл бұрын

@Deepstateagenda21lgbtqsatanicilluminatipopelover The eternal Home from which we came in pre-existence of this world. It's called the Pleroma or Supernal Abode.

@doriesse824

3 жыл бұрын

@Deepstateagenda21lgbtqsatanicilluminatipopelover But unlike mainstream Christianity, there was a pre-existence, a before-life.

@doriesse824

3 жыл бұрын

@Deepstateagenda21lgbtqsatanicilluminatipopelover Ask a mainstream Christian pastor or priest if there is a pre-existence of the soul. They will vehemently oppose that idea. They will say there is ONLY an afterlife. If you don't think that's significant, then you don't have any understanding of the Gnostic philosophy, but you are entitled to whatever you wish. When Jesus told Nicodemus in order to be saved, one must be "born again", that has been mistranslated. It means "born from above"; i.e., pre-existing. There are those who have not pre-existed, and there are those who are "born from below"; in fact, these two groups make up the majority in this world.

@kendoncurtis6174

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong !

@Jadedgems

3 жыл бұрын

Helios do you know what “after” means? Just wondering

In her book "The Aquarian Conspiracy", Marilyn Ferguson described these battles over small differences within the communities of people who'd encountered great personal life changes that reflected the presence of a higher power and perhaps at the edge of what then was the "new age" movement. So, it's still around and seems prevalent in our political realm.

So much of our history is slanderous it’s hard to find truth anywhere 😞 I appreciate your take on this and keeping it ‘non slanderous’

How could there be an authentic Christianity when there were so many competing versions of Christianity back in the day.

@mystico21p

7 ай бұрын

And it's still going on till this day.

Love this! Your extensive knowledge and how you present it is amazing and rather attractive actually. (Oops...er...sorry....I can't help it... I crave it.) Basically, Thankyou. I adore your channel.

Good work. I have a background in religious history and it is nice to see such a well rounded treatment of this topic that properly examines the intricacies and subtleties. I loved the introduction of the narcissism of small differences. A fine and under-utilized term that has vast application in understanding the human condition. I am putting this in my favorites so perhaps more people will see it.

@ReligionForBreakfast

9 жыл бұрын

Soylent Green Glad you liked it! Religion is SO nuanced and potentially polarizing. I'm aiming to talk about these issues from a more academic perspective which [hopefully] will lend a bit of religious literacy to whoever watches the episodes. Thank you for the subscribe!!

@soylentgreen6082

9 жыл бұрын

ReligionForBreakfast That comment alone would earned my subscription friend :) You're a breath of fresh air.

@ReligionForBreakfast

9 жыл бұрын

Soylent Green Thank you!

This was great! Thank you!

Remember that Pythagoras and Plato rejected the material world and Aristoteles despised it - that's Christian theology.

@vincentlattuca3763

7 ай бұрын

Yes indeed. Pythagoras knew about reincarnation . There was a five year vow of silence when allowed to enter his mystery school. The Christ is but 2000 years old. God is much older. Peace be with you.

Great video love this channel. Though reading some of the comments is enough to turn me into a gnostic.

@gervaisfrykman266

3 жыл бұрын

Great!

Gnostic is not confined to only 1 set of beliefs. The real tragedy of the internet, is that everyone thinks themselves an expert, and qualified to educate the rest of the world.

@ANDROLOMA

2 жыл бұрын

Where the world's worst know-it-alls perch and defecate.

Thank you for the video.

Excellent video. I really learned a lot

the "Pagan christ" by peter gandy and timothy freke was my favorite book on this, and "stigmata" and "Zohar book" were my favorite movies on it

@gervaisfrykman266

3 жыл бұрын

Their "The Jesus Mysteries" and "Jesus and the Goddess" were eye opening for me.

@bman5257

3 жыл бұрын

Might as well read the Da Vinci code at that level of scholarship.

Interesting fact: Standard English translations of John 8:44 obscure the Greek, which reads: ὑμεῖς ἐκ τοῦ πατρὸς τοῦ διαβόλου ἐστὲ. With the article preceding πατρὸς, the phrase τοῦ διαβόλου is a genitive phrase modifying the nominal phrase ἐκ τοῦ πατρὸς;.. Thus: "You are from the father of the Devil." If the statement were to mean, as the standard English translation renders it, "You are of the father, the Devil," then the article preceding πατρὸς, would not be present. In this case the phrase, "father" would be in the predicate position, a grammatical choice that the author of John makes a few verses later in 8:56 when referencing Abraham: Ἀβραὰμ ὁ πατὴρ ὑμῶν, "Abraham, your father." This literal reading is confirmed by the last segment of the verse (8:44f) which straightforwardly acknowledges the present of two beings, the liar and his father: ὅταν λαλῇ τὸ ψεῦδος, ἐκ τῶν ἰδίων λαλεῖ, ὅτι ψεύστης ἐστὶν καὶ ὁ πατὴρ αὐτοῦ. The full verse reasons that the Devil lies since his nature is that of a liar. Why? Because not only is the Devil a liar himself but his father is also a liar. But this is not the sense of the standard English translation which is peculiar and strained. It reads αὐτοῦ as a genitive "it" referring to an unnamed singular antecedent such as "lying" or "falsehood." Thus: πατὴρ αὐτοῦ is rendered in the standard English translation idiosyncratically, "the father of lies." This is incredibly incorrect and dishonest. Aὐτοῦ doesn`t mean “ it” but is a personal pronoun which this context refers to the devil, therefore it should say “the father of the devil” not “the father of lies” biblehub.com/greek/846.htm This verse functioned as a calling card for Gnostics who used it as plain evidence that Jesus taught that the Jewish God was the father of the Devil. A number of Gnostics employed this verse to prove that Jesus himself instructed them that there existed a god in addition to Jesus' true Father. This other god is the Old Testament God and is responsible for the generation of the Devil and evil. They insisted that this verse demonstrates that determinism plays a role in human nature, especially in terms of the most wicked people, the apostates. According to these Gnostics, it is a wicked deity - the god the old testament - who fathered both the apostates and the Devil. The early catholics faced a real dilemma when it came to explaining this verse. In order to neutralize it, they insisted that the Greek be read appositionally, "you are from the father, the Devil" even though they confess that reading it this way would be clearer if the genitive article before father were erased. Their ultimate concern is that the scripture cannot say "from the father of the Devil" so they plead that another reading of the text is necessary, a reading that they regard as 'better' than the plain reading. They are so certain that that text means "from the father, the Devil" that they freely render it, "You are sons of the Devil," and attribute these words to Jesus instead of the words found in the scripture. They are uneasy about quoting the Greek in the form it appears in the biblical passage itself. So they tend to substitute for it what they think the passage should say by paraphrasing the passage whenever they reference it. If the author, intended to write “You are sons of the Devil” he would have simply wrote it. If Jesus wanted to say “You are sons of the Devil” he would of said it that way. “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33

@akostarkanyi825

4 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps Jesus could refer to those cussed, wicked, unrepentant Jews with whom he actually fervently argued with as "the Devil" en bloc (as he called Peter also "Devil" once) - and then "the Devil"s father" again could mean what the Chistian scholars think: "you, Jews in this group, all are children of the Devil if you think like He does".

@michaelvincent8514

3 жыл бұрын

Valentinus 777 Even as a child I could understand that the bible has been translated several times, from several different languages over thousands of years, by many different individuals subject to their interpretations. I was agnostic all my life because of my distrust of any authority. Thank you for your literal translation.

@randallkoch6183

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of this is Greek to me.

@recreatingadam980

3 жыл бұрын

Channelnap

@Moosemansmithy

3 жыл бұрын

@@akostarkanyi825 incorrect. Jesus and the Bible currently confirm that Yahweh is in fact the devil, Satan or if you prefer the demiurge. More than 168 bible verses point to this. It also points to the fact that this thing is the creator of men. We are created in His image and it is good and evil.

Very informative. I learned a couple of things. Thanks!

New fan here man. I really love your work.

I used to be a part of an interfaith breakfast group. We discuss these things. I miss it. You have a great teaching personality. I subscribed. I am a fan.

They don’t see Jesus as a “spiritual being” - they recognize that he is a [metaphor] for the ego death and resurrection mytheme.

@caroswolf286

4 жыл бұрын

Oh, the hero's Journey?

@percival_xii9166

4 жыл бұрын

@@caroswolf286 it's all connected, man 😉

@Mika-El-

4 жыл бұрын

Well, 'gnostics' is a too varied group to put easy labels on. The question of Christ were subject to a variety of interpretations and dogmas among different gnostic groups.

@MrTrda

4 жыл бұрын

Caros Wolf - yes, The Hero’s Journey - Exactly. Dozens of Religions in this region have different versions of the same message. That it is possible to have an experience that completely negates the idea of an individual ego calling the shots. This is the death and rebirth experience. It is, and was, catalyzed by the use of psychedelics.

@shawnahall7246

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrTrda yes and the Jesus story is just new version of the old ones in ancient times been retold over and over but different names. Krishna, Horrus ect

Clear and thoughtful. Thank you

I only subscribe to the scholarship when it comes to theological lectures . This channel is one of five I have on religious studies i hand picked by myself. That said , as for this video brilliant as always and good insight into the beginners gnostic and apocryphal studies.

Extremely articulate bloke He should have another channel and cover other topics too...

@Vistresian1941

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Hard to find articulate content from people that aren't simultaneously insufferable to listen to; it's a nice change.

You remind me a lot of Jason Lee from Mall Rats... with glasses. I love the knowledge you are finding and sharing, keep it up! 😃

@shayZero

4 жыл бұрын

Hes atoning for those chocolate pretzel pranks haha

This is such a good channel.

It’s nice to see how this channel changed and grew over the years.

The jangly music that came in at the end made me think there was a phone vibrating somewhere near me...

Very good

I’m just here to say I enjoyed this video and reading the comments 👌

this is the earliest video i've seen of you. you were a lot more... active? showed more gesture? hehe. anywho, i find this topic so interesting and I appreciate your videos a lot. you really have a great mind and talent to explain :)

Baby eater must’ve been a common slur? I just learned about a part in a book by Josephus that describes a lady named Mary that ate her baby after Titus walled in Jerusalem.

@iska788

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe they just taste really really good?

@karenabrams8986

3 жыл бұрын

Especially after a nice spice rub.

@iska788

3 жыл бұрын

@@karenabrams8986 MMMMMMMMMMHHHH, children

@karenabrams8986

3 жыл бұрын

@@iska788 😝

@Hermeshoes

2 жыл бұрын

Blood libel

Narcissism of small differences- this is an interesting topic and I see this in other communities as well. I did not know it had a name.

@ReligionForBreakfast

8 жыл бұрын

+Aisling Chepi Yeah, the concept shows up in other social situations...not just religion.

@cosmicyoke

6 жыл бұрын

like within anarchist schools of thought

@lex.cordis

6 жыл бұрын

Ryan - No one is making that claim. Look up a term called "Narcissism of Small differences". There's a decent Wikipedia page on it.

@CortezHoratio

6 жыл бұрын

When this concept is mentioned I always think of the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea!

@flamingrobin5957

6 жыл бұрын

1 and 2 John in the bible teach you how to "Test the spirits to see if they are from God because many deceivers have gone out into the world" the term anti-christ can mean "against" Christ or "In place of Christ" jesus warned of false christians and false Christs who would deceive many. the term "narcissism of small differrence" is meaningless when discerning truth from error. 90 percent truth mixed with a false jesus is not christianity. the devil always "masquerades as an angel of light and his servants are able to transform themselves into servants of righteousness. 1 John and 2 John are specific tests for believers to discern true christians from false ones "anyone who denies Jesus Christ has come in the flesh" Gnostics believed Jesus was just a spirit or "consciousness" they deny plain doctrine of scripture to twist christianity into the persuit of "Secret knowledge" rather than faith in the gospel message and jesus himself who became man to attone for sins as a human sacrifice to free us from our own sin. "without the shedding of blood there is no remission for sin" all of christianity hinges on the blood of Jesus as atonement between a holy God and sinful humanity. God manifested in human flesh is central to christian doctrine. therefore Gnosticism is NOT christianity but heresy and "a spirit of Anti-Christ"

That was great - i really enjoyed that