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@alananimus9145

2 жыл бұрын

Valentinanism is a Pauline sect.

@ForbiddenHistoryLIVE

2 жыл бұрын

HELLO DO YOU DO INTERVIEWS ? I AM A TRANSLATOR ... CAN SEND YOU SAMPLES OF MY TRANSLATION PROJECT. Dezert

@jacovawernett3077

2 жыл бұрын

Could you delve into the Jacobites.?

@pocohax6552

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think they always referring to Jesus when they describing the sons of god

@bethbartlett5692

Жыл бұрын

Consider this: *The Defining* It's the "defining that can create the misunderstanding", example: "belief in a lower Creator god", (can mean, a knowledge of a physical being that was involved in a scientific DNA manipulation that resulted in Modern Homosapiens, and this based on Ancient Knowledge/Sumerian Texts, and the label "god/little g" having a title relative to that like the British "lord", and not to be confused with the Creator, Source, *God* ... It is a matter of how the use of the title indicates "having a part in creating something", later an interpretation that was in line with Social Levels. (when we are absent or not as familiar with a previous foundation, the observation can appear most distorted to our understanding.) Gnostics had Ancient Knowledge and thus existed prior to Yeshua, and he made a major "add on value thru his gifts, studies, and accomplishments" (this included the Hermetic Principals aka Universal Laws, particularly the "Universal Law of Attraction")

"Not making things out of thin pneuma." I noticed the subtle joke. I laughed.

@matthewwallack601

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to comment about this lol

@Mari_Oh

2 жыл бұрын

And flawlessly delivered with a straight face!

@rylepurple1996

Жыл бұрын

Why he used word "Pneuma? in english bible?" he can just use the word "Spirit"so international people can easily understand. he just used Pneuma to fit ideas of Valentinians.

I find Valentinians, Sethians, Hermeticists, and all so called Gnosticism to be utterly fascinating.

@DrownedinDesigner

2 жыл бұрын

I just think they’re heretics.

@francescoazzoni3445

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrownedinDesigner based and ireneus-pilled

@mhertin660

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrownedinDesigner heresy can be fascinating

@nosuchthing8

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrownedinDesigner they didn't set out to be heretics

@namelessdark4701

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrownedinDesigner hindsight is 20/20

Wonderful! Actually working on an episode on the Epistle to Flora and Summer Harvest for next week!

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I wasn't able to squeeze Summer Harvest into this video.

@TheEsotericaChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast It's tiny anyway - the whole episode will be 'gnostic' texts only preserved in polemical sources, including a 'cathar' text preserved in Durand of Huesca's c.1222 Liber Contra Manicheos - Many thanks as always for your work and inspiration, Andrew!

@Mika-El-

2 жыл бұрын

That is beyond fat! 🥰

@theeccentrictripper3863

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheEsotericaChannel Best crossover ever, feels like the universe is collapsing every time I see two creators I watch interacting

@PunkRockPetSitter

2 жыл бұрын

I am SO THERE!!!! 😆👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

There's a sci-fi book calked Mysterium, by Robert Charles Wilson where a small Michigan town gets pulled into an alternate reality where Valentinus DID become Bishop of Rome and a gnostic form of Christianity became orthodox. One line resounded with me. The new world's religious investigators found the Christianity of the transported townsfolk almost Jewish in nature, due to their strict monotheism.

@mikeryan4055

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good book, thanks for that.

Went straight from here to listening to a reading of the entire Tripartite Tractate - about 2 hrs long. Despite it's ethereal subject matter and esoteric jargon, I think it's quite easy for a modern person to absorb, because it's written more like a logical thesis than a typical piece of scripture. It's so clearly written by a highly intelligent Hellenic person who has accepted the Jewish savior and aspects of Jewish mysticism and is trying to re-imagine them in a way that makes more sense to a Greek mind. Utterly fascinating.

@phillipstroll7385

Жыл бұрын

Jewish savior? Who would that be? I didn't know the Jewish religion had a savior. They've had many as far as I can tell. The one they called Christ was Simon. Then bar korhba. Certainly not Jesus. Every savior they claimed was their savior they dismissed after their failure. Just as they claimed god had an earthly house, the temple. Until their temples continued to be destroyed. Then suddenly nope. They didn't need a temple and they gave it away. So you see my confusion by your statement

@DoctorDee33

Жыл бұрын

@@phillipstroll7385 you are correct Phil. The idea of mashiach (messiah ) is an ancient one in Judaism. Well, sort of. It developed over the years. The messianic concept was introduced later in the history of Judaism, during the age of the prophets. the messianic concept is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible). The Jewish idea of mashiach (messiah / ) is a great human leader like King David, not a savior. The literal translation of the Hebrew word mashiach (המשיח, messiah), is 'anointed', which refers to a ritual of consecrating someone or something by putting holy oil upon it. & this comment was for Al Cheers!

@stustig9430

Жыл бұрын

Yes, although the Valentinians were not totally right at least they were trying - goes for most of us

@hermanhale9258

Жыл бұрын

@@phillipstroll7385 Probably better to say "the Zoroastrian savior". Meaning, the idea of a savior.

@ryujin2101

Жыл бұрын

Utterly Ridiculous, the Minds of Morons merely seemed to be reproduced Over n Over, no Intellectual being buys such, they merely make Us t Control the Simple one's and profit OFF THEIR WEAK minds. And still today Terrorism is a Good tool to USE and Profit of simple one's.

I’m so fascinated with Gnosticism please keep covering this stuff!

@fluentpiffle

2 жыл бұрын

There is one biblical story that intrigues me, and that is the story of Noah. I think this may be a timeless anecdote that we can apply to any 'knower' of today. It then takes on the form of a kind of collective unconscious prediction, as anyone who followed the trail of truth would ultimately find themselves in the same position as the biblical character, and likely HAS done through the ages..Giordano Bruno, for instance.. This would explain why the story retains an air of credibility. The events unfolding in the story WOULD mimic the real life situation in ANY age, given that the underlying nature of Humans remains roughly the same. Behaviour is predictable once it wears itself into a pattern, and that in itself is a perfect example of how nature works, at the fundamental level..

@isaacleillhikar4566

Жыл бұрын

I make vidéos about it. Like "Is the Protoecagelium by the gnostics."

@BMXOPHY

Жыл бұрын

In case you are interested, Gnosticism has now evolved into Anthroposophy, aka, contemporary Rosicrucian/Manichean gnosticism.

@patrickbrumm4120

Жыл бұрын

if you listen to podcasts try Talk Gnosis

The bride groom and bridal chamber play a large role in Eastern Orthodox theology, specifically surrounding the crucifixion and the church’s role as the bride of Christ.

@DISTurbedwaffle918

2 жыл бұрын

These also are still maintained in Catholic theology, both Western and Eastern.

@noahsolomon1550

2 жыл бұрын

So enlightening

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

Жыл бұрын

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 Yeah, I was about to say. That metaphorical relationship was used a lot by the priest of my Roman Catholic church growing up. But in my diocese, they rotate priests throughout the country every few years. And ideologies change between priests so perhaps it's not as widespread an analogy as I had thought.

@DISTurbedwaffle918

Жыл бұрын

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Some priests are bigger theologians than others. The one you have now probably just isn't as advanced in his knowledge.

@Me-hf4ii

3 ай бұрын

The bride groom and bridal chamber imagery is part of all Christianity - orthodox, East, west, Protestant - all of it… doesn’t mean the rest of the theology is in accord with what Jesus actually taught. Eastern and Western Catholic Churches are too devoted to a woman called Mary for my taste. Too fleshly of an interpretation of the Miracle of Christ’s incarnation - and it’s very much like she has been deified in these churches. Yes He really came in the flesh - but he could have chosen a prostitute just as easily as a virgin. He chose the virgin to highlight the Miracle (a pregnant prostitute isn’t something all that odd - but a pregnant virgin shows people something very peculiar has happened) - and if Mary of Nazareth had said no, he would have found another woman who would have said yes.

Being in these early groups must have been fascinating. Not only do you have people raised Jewish you have people coming from a Greek and Roman background.

The tablet reads “Flavia Sophe, freedwoman of Aurelius Hermia, a woman of modesty and piety, lived 30 years, 7 months, and 20 days. Aurelius Hermia, her former master, and husband made this tomb for her and for himself and for their freedperson.” What you wrote was a quote from The Gospel of Phillip. 0:29

One of my youthful follies was looking into gnosticism, and somehow it managed to fly right over my head that gnosticism was a stream of Christianity, and that the "demiurge" theology is a cosmological attempt for Christians to reconcile God as he appears in the Old Testament, with the God that Jesus teaches. Somehow (I won't say how) I kept thinking of gnosticism as a kind of seperare philosophy, rather than as a branch of explicitly Christian thought. It makes so much more sense now. Thanks!

@Plethorality

Жыл бұрын

well it is not as if we proestants were taught that there was any other approach than our particular denominaton, that was not heresy, thus wrong. we had all tge answers and questions were not allowed.

@TheGuiltsOfUs

Жыл бұрын

They never understood rabbi Yeshua in the first place, radical Torah observance - not its abandonment for pagan ideas!

@TheSulross

Жыл бұрын

that is the one core feature of these various so-called Gnostic Christians and the Marcionite Christians - they all had huge problems with the Jewish deity Yahweh of the Hebrew bible and found that figure irreconcilable with Yeshua. That is what is so facinsting about Christianity as it spread among Hellinistic Roman Empire - so many found the ancient Hebrew deity as a very off-putting, even repulsive figure (Marcion doesn't hold back at all in that regard)

@Me-hf4ii

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuiltsOfUsso the Council of Jerusalem was wrong? Jesus most beloved apostle, John, or renounced the idea of radical Torah observance as “judiazing” was wrong? Hmm… your Jesus doesn’t seem to know how to pick people very well if they got something so central so wrong so soon after His ascension.

@igorlopes7589

3 ай бұрын

​@@Me-hf4iiYou ignore that there is a middle position between judaizers and marcionites/gnostics. That position is that the God of the OT is good and that He established a New Covenant in which the jewish-specific parts of the Halakhah are declared to be fulffilled by Christ and not necessary to follow anymore. This was the position at the Jerusalem Council, they deemed the God of the OT to be good and yet didn't believe the Halakhah was still binding

The Valentinians were also early sources that link the fourth Gospel to the disciple John as author. This testifies to the antiquity of the tradition, being shared by those of multiple schools of thought.

@Ancipital_

Жыл бұрын

All one has to do is to read St. Iranaeus' Against Heresies to see that yes, Jesus had quite the impact and had many thinkers scrambling from left to right trying to make sense of what had transpired.

@ohamatchhams

Жыл бұрын

@@Ancipital_ Nay, one has to see the successes of the growth, spread and strengthening of Islam which is the fulfilment of any genuine prophecy, regardless from the Nicene to "Gnostic" sources of Christianity and any other religions Nicene Christianity, especially it's Western variants, is already a failure at even protecting it's authenticity, whether of being "genuine"/"orthodox", "universal"/"catholic", lutheran, nestorian, calvinist, evangelical and any other labels which deemed to be failures after centuries of corruptions

The "Angel of the Great/Mightly Council" title is very familiar to the Eastern Orthodox tradition. It is apparently how one of the bits of the famous "Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God..." passage in Isaiah is translated in Septuagint and, consequently, in the translations dependent on it (e.g. into Church Slavonic).

As always, an interesting analysis of this religous system. Real history, people and their beliefs are always far more interesting and diverse than we tend to believe because of our prism of experience and beliefs.

@NinaR478

Жыл бұрын

It’s interesting and diverse always, it’s not our faith that obstructs that but often time the privilege many have that they do not feel the need to listen or acknowledge others

Wow. Extremely interesting, wish I knew so much more about the various "Gnostic" beliefs such a shame so much is lost to time or undiscovered.

@DBCisco

2 жыл бұрын

and ignored as well misrepresented.

@bobSeigar

2 жыл бұрын

And intentionally suppressed

@TimeWaster_Elite

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobSeigar bingo.

@tehufn

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully died out. They were often, as it says in the beginning of the video, polytheistic. Gnosticism is the oldest Christian heresy, even predating Christianity (hence its polytheism). It is of Greece, not of Jerusalem.

@bobSeigar

2 жыл бұрын

@@tehufn Christianity came out of Rome, not Jerusalem. Also, Gnostics are a much more diverse set of groups than you are attempting to paint them as.

This channel gives me so many interesting topics to discuss with my dad. Thanks Andrew!

@2005heatheralong

10 ай бұрын

How nice to have these discussions together. I love it. ❤

I recently read a translation of the Gospel of Truth and had immense difficulty understanding what the authors meant by "spirit" and "soul". This presentation helped a lot.

@ANDROLOMA

2 жыл бұрын

Was the Gospel of Truth among the trove at Nag Hammadi?

@PhDTony_original

2 жыл бұрын

@@ANDROLOMA Yes, it survives as a Coptic text from the Nag Hammadi trove now stored in Cairo's Coptic Museum. Edit: there are other sources - the translation I read claimed this is the most complete version.

@ANDROLOMA

2 жыл бұрын

@@PhDTony_original Today, I learned something new. Thank you, Tony.

@eternalism8274

Жыл бұрын

i extracted the 3-tier scheme of Body/ Soul/ Spirit from Pagels' first two books (Johannine, Pauline writings). Soul = exoteric freewillist moral-agency thinking; Spirit = esoteric no-free-will thinking (non-branching block universe altered state experience)

I am overwhelmingly thankful to see Dr. Ismo Dunderberg and his research mentioned. He has provided exceptional insight into the Valentinians, and his book "Beyond Gnosticism" is a must read for anyone looking for in-depth information into the School of Valentinus.

@dustindavis55

Жыл бұрын

It’s too bad his books are so expensive. One as much as 270 dollars on Amazon. Where can one find more affordable copies?

@brandonfrench9379

Жыл бұрын

@@dustindavis55 I agree that his books are expensive, but I "Beyond Gnosticism" is worth the $60. I don't know of a way to get the books for a lower price, I wish I did though.

@commenter3326

Жыл бұрын

@@dustindavis55 Libgen.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonfrench9379 There are subreddits where one can obtain knowledge of dark arts in order to procure precious and expensive artefacts such as this book. That's all I shall say.

@eternalism8274

Жыл бұрын

i looked up the book Beyond Gnosticism and I was surprised that Amazon says i have it 🤷‍♂️🤯 and i bought it used in 2013, shipped 2014, paid $15. i hope i found it enlightening 😞 i assume i have read Michael Wms Against 'Gnosticism'; found a pdf of his previous 1977 dissertation revision The Immovable Raec the other day on the theme of Stability ($160)

The Valentinians had a method they used to rescue humans from suffocating, spiritual darkness and bring them into the light. They called it the Hylic Maneuver.

@ANDROLOMA

2 жыл бұрын

Heimlich?

@MoonChild-jq2dm

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@user-ie2fl8lx7j

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but for it to work you have to make sure the banking cartel doesn’t shut your life in America down first cause they are so great and kind and care all about our sons

@orangemanbad

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha. That was hilarious

@fremiloant1186

8 ай бұрын

@@user-ie2fl8lx7j Such things dont exist, you're delusional

I went and re-watched your 2015 video on gnosticism and it was really interesting to see the consistency of your arguments and the evolution of your style. Out of curiosity, do you ever revisit your old videos, and how do you feel about them?

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

Some of them hold up. Generally I cringe at the production quality.

@sorceresque647

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast To be able to look back at your past and see its deficiencies is a sign that you're improving in your craft! It's been great to see the organic evolution of your presentation style. Art is full of malformed first attempts, but we aim to love them all anyway. 😊 But judging by your trajectory, I can see great things ahead!

@Napoleonic_S

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast Man, can you teach us where did these gnosticism cosmology come from? Was it based on Jewish or pagan ideas? Or both? And why ultimately the orthodox Christianity rejected those cosmology ideas?

@TheMrcassina

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast you can be funny too

@francesconesi7666

2 жыл бұрын

@@Napoleonic_S Why do they have to come from others' ideas? They could be original products of the many schools we today lump together as Gnostics

Valentinian theology heavily influences my own spiritual beliefs. I appreciate this video.

@joannebrown6540

Жыл бұрын

Especially regarding Yahweh, in my belief. He is not The Father of Yeshua.

@bobSeigar

Жыл бұрын

​@@joannebrown6540 yshu = 'May his name be obliterated'

@igorlopes7589

3 ай бұрын

​@@joannebrown6540The earliest christian writtings suggest otherwise. I would trust the earliest christians, who wrote the OT, over the late second century christians who wrote the gnostic gospels and books

I love your videos on first century Christianity. Very different from what my culty Baptist bible college taught me lol This time in church history is wild.

I've really struggled to wrap my head around Valentinianism for the longest time. This was helpful.

@STho205

2 жыл бұрын

The three pure forms of the universe is the most helpful part of this presentation, especially tying it to the letters attributed to Paul untranslated from the oldest Greek.

I just found your channel and your introduction alone had me sold. The clarity, care and respect with which you present the historical context, prejudices and misconceptions are extraordinary. And the quality of the presentation holds up until the end. Now I have backlog of videos to watch. I promise to not pay much attention to the production quality of your early videos 😜

I just did a paper for one of my religion classes on Gnostic literature with Valentinian cosmology at the center. It was really fun, excited for this video.

Are you ever planning on making a video about the Didache? Also thanks for this video Valentinians are a group I've always found interesting.

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd really like to. I've always been fascinated by the Didache, and it'd be a nice follow-up to the Shepherd of Hermas video.

@CJ-uk1rt

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast thanks for making a video on the Shepard of Hermas. I had no idea it existed. I've learnt so much from your channel.

@Nick.T.A

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast Please do! I have always wanted to know more about the Didache

@PaulClermont

2 жыл бұрын

strange i just learned that the Didache exists yesterday- in addition to the rest of the "Apostolic Father" writings (Letters of Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp, etc) Literally about to buy Holmes' compilation

@samlatin8933

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulClermont is there an amazon link to this

Fantastic job as always. Thank you for all your hard work!

so glad to see you're back!

Really really enjoyed this presentation! Extremely enlightening. I’m looking forward to going through the rest of your material. 🙂

The fact that Valentinus almost became bishop of Rome is worth making the video about him/his belief system!

Your summaries are always simple enough to stir the reader's interest. Thanks.

Thank you, Andrew! This is wonderful as always! And it comes during the beginning of Orthodox Holy Week, where we have the Bridegroom Matins services, which also use the bridal chamber imagery! I don't know if you planned that, but it works out very well!

I love these deep dives. You keep the pace moving at exactly the speed I wish to imbibe it all. This is so helpful in understanding a variety of very disparate philosophies. Thank you.

I've been watching so much RFB I think I might be addicted xD Please never stop making videos, this is the best channel out there!

I was hoping for a video about the Valentinians! Delightful.

I've already watched this episode twice - can't wait to share it with others!

Such a fantastic channel, never ceases to amaze me. One day you should do a video about the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom - I would be fascinated to hear you talk about it.

Such an amazing video. Something that fascinates me about history of religion is how it helps us understand the people who lived in the past, their beliefs, ideas and practices.

Thanks for adding some good detail and, more importantly, a useful context in which this particular node fits in the web of beliefs and practices in early Christianity

Hi. Gnostics is used by Ireneas in his Book against hérésies. Its title once was "Countering what is falsly called Knowlege (Gnostia)" quoting Paul in the Bible.

This is one of the most cogent explanations of Valentinian cosmology/theology I've ever heard. Not an easy thing to tease out to make understandable to a modern audience! Kudos!

So thankful for this video - it took me a few months of research (maybe a year, but I also read things not in this video too w that) to learn as much about Valentinian Christianity / “ Gnosticism “ as is in this 24 min video 😩😭 it’s such a niche topic

I really enjoy your seeming non bias delivery of facts in a well rounded measure. Thank you, I wish I could support you but I am a pleab

I really love your videos and the way you analyse subjects.

Thank you so much i love your videos especially on Christian History, Gnosticism, and Apocryphal texts.

"How many people who could say 'you can measure a soul on a scale'?" There is at least 1 man I can think of. Duncan MacDougall and his 21 grams experiment.

I just started reading surviving Valentinian texts yesterday! What great timing

Something to add, is that the belief in the demiurge and the aeons, gives rise to the innate divinity of man; that the soul is part of the highest aeon in which it seeks to return if enlightened enough. There's an Elegance in that which I think is a great lesson for humanity even today.

The idea of bride, bridegroom, bridal chamber, etc. is very familiar to those practicing meditation that conveys the esoteric meaning of the bride (soul), uniting to the Bridegroom (God, Ocean, etc.) for eternal salvation.

@TheGuiltsOfUs

Жыл бұрын

Rabbi Yeshua knew nothing of such pagan ideas

Thank you for perpetuating a scholarly understanding of this elusive material.

My hylic self was *riveted* by the TriTrac and all these fascinating details about how very complex the roots of christian religion really is. I appreciate your clarity and erudition.

Best yet. Thank you.

Love to see an episode on Ebionites and their modern spiritual descendants the Talmidi Jews

Glad I found this channel thank you.❤️

Thank you for this! When I was looking into this subject 20+ years ago there was really only Pagel’s Gnostic Gospels commonly available and just a smattering of work providing context to the Nag Hammadi codices.

Facinating talk. Thank you so much for this

This video is great! I really thought I pneuma faith pretty well, but, this was very enlightening!

Thanks, I'm definitely no scholar of christianity, and even less of early christian movements and philosophies, but you do help me make more sense of what little I know.

Thank you so much for this channel. I have learn so much here.... I can only be greatfull...

Alright you got me. Subscribed. You are very complete and concise.

That epitaph gave me goosebumps. Sooooooooo beautiful.

Very excited as you near closer and closer to covering Sethianism.

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, we'll be covering Sethianism ASAP.

Another fascinating look at Early Christian belief! Each of your lectures, Andrew, is filled with investigative zeal and enrichment that stimulate our curiosity and reflection on what our beliefs are based on.

That was really interesting, thanks.

HI brother! Thanks for the video. One question- Will you make videos explaining Philosophies of Hinduism in future. There are many dharmic philosophies with many people explaining in different ways. Would love to listen your perspective on them.

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am currently in the early stages of producing an Intro to Hinduism series. Two episodes are already written. You can expect the series to launch in a few months.

@ayushshukla2917

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast Thanks buddy❤

Ur explanations are so succinct. Can I suggest that you slow down all speech by 10% and increase your pause time by same after every period. Nmb but honestly think it’ll work ❤

Great video!

yet another certified banger from our main man

Thank you for this wealth of knowledge.

That was an immensely deep presentation. Thank you very much for all your research and work putting this video together. I love your perspective, so often forgotten, that “Gnostics” were Christians.

You’re very good at this 👍

THE content I've been looking for

Super, as usual. Thank you. And is the unbuttoned collar an intentional branding look? Cool.

Naming my next dog or child Pseudo-Tertullian

This is very interesting. Thankyou for presenting this. Its important to know stuff like this. More people should i think...know this stuff

@jeremyg7261

2 жыл бұрын

Know what? That Christians are just a stupid cult like every other stupid cult? I agree

That video was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the informative video sir. It does makes me wonder how would the modern world be like if these “Gnostic” branches survived. The early church fathers wrote way too many polemics against their gnostic opponents but none of the works they antagonize survived which is kinda disappointing. I think even the church fathers Origen (homily on Luke), Epiphanius (Panarion), and Jerome (commentary on Matthew) wrote commentaries about the first chapter of Luke discussing about the “many who have taken account” pertaining to these heretical works of Basilides, Cerinthus, Merinthus, and other non canonical gospels.

@funnyman7048

Жыл бұрын

Honestly people who have similar beliefs to the gnostics have continuously re-emerged so many times I'd argue it wouldn't be much different as it is now. I mean if the valentinians survived id imagine they'd be like the modern johannites or the ecclesia gnostica in France and the us, or the Cathars or the bogomils, or Carl Jung fans ig

@barrymoore4470

10 ай бұрын

@@funnyman7048 Gnosticism essentially strikes me as Christianity infused with liberal helpings of Platonic idealism. Platonic thought is foundational to Western philosophy, so I agree that Gnostic survival would have left the world looking much as we have it today, and explains why variations of Gnostic thought recur throughout Western history.

great content and delivery. I'm wondering if you use similar terms like "myths" when referring to modern or orthodox christianity and how you parse one individuals cosmic conclusions as non-myth compared to anothers.

Please make a video on Pierre Teilhard de Chardin the jesuit priest and paleontologist who tried to unite darwinian evolutionary theory with christian catholic cosmology creating a whole new thing: the omega point

I had the pleasure of attending an introduction to exegetics class taught by Dunderberg and his colleague Juha Pakkala, where Pakkala would teach the Old Testament and Dunderberg the New Testament. He's very inspiring as a lecturer.

Hey thanks so much for this video, you clarified some things that are important too me

new Religion for Breakfast video LETS GOOO love to know more about gnosticism

You do a great Job

I kinda like that you start with 7 minutes of disclaimers, goes to show how complex the field is.

There's nothing wrong with calling them by their founder's name. It's a helpful label. Makes no difference if some ancient writer hated them or not.

you deserve a million subs !

I found "Introduction to Gnosticism: Ancient Voices, Christian World" by Nicola Denzey Lewis a great guide on the sources on what we today call Gnosticism, including Flavia Sophe inscription - with explanations on how each text refers to others.

A friend of mine is reading about these things because she believes in them and wants to learn and put them in practice. She really appreciates these videos.

@yosh3058

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Just tell her to choose her sources carefully. A lot of ancient Christian writings have been destroyed, altered, or slandered if they did not conform to the more popular Christian ideologies. A lot of info you might find about these groups doesn't accurately reflect the actual beliefs and practices if these early Christians.

The Bride of Christ imagery is still used in Catholicism. I don't know if any other sect uses it, but when I was still a Catholic, I heard the Catholic church referred to as the "Bride of Christ" all the time. THAT trope is nothing new, either. Eros and Psyche, anyone? It's the most "Christian" of pre-Christian myths.

@dimitartodorov4826

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The Bride of Christ is used in protestant as well as eastern orthodox churches. Do you know why? Because it comes directly from scripture.

There is always something so tempting, so exotic, yet oddly familiar sounding about gnostic theologies. I don't believe any of it, but they are strangely convincing for ideas that just popped into the minds of baffled people.

Hello Friend! I could have sworn you announced a few months ago that you were launching a podcast? I keep searching for it periodically but don't find it. Is it called something other than Religion For Breakfast? Love your content and would love to add it to my subscriptions to listen in car. Thanks!

very interesting channel but i wish you could find a way to slow the pace of your presentations a little ... i ended up watching this at 0.75 speed &, although it became slurred, it made the structure & content of your presentation much easier to actually grasp.

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Do you think that Valentinus (or his teachers) would have had access to the yogic idea of the three gunas when formulating the concept behind three essences (hylic, psychic, pneumatic) ?

What about more about ancient Egypt? Ra? Anubis? The Ankh? The Uas? The Djed?

'The Angel of Great Counsel' is a title given to Christ in the NT. The Valentinians were originally not distinct from primitive Christianity but rather an inner dimension of esoterism within the early Church with their secret sacramental initiations of Apolytrosis and the Bridal Chamber for the Pneumatic Christians as well as the Psychic Christians. The Valentinian categorization of Pneumatic, Psychic and Hylic types of human is similar to the Divyabhava, Virabhava and Pashubhava in Indian Tantrik traditions.

@imlaughinq7445

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Gnosticism does indeed promote reincarnation, similar to Buddhism

I hope you will do a video on Sethian theology as well.

Of course it’s another great video from rfb, but I hope I can critic the length of the disclaimer. The video starts at 7:10 you could argue

Excellent !

A video on the Sethians would be appreciated. :)