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@endtimeslips4660

2 жыл бұрын

that's why Jesus send blasphemous sect of church to crush constantinopel you saying gospel thomas is truth? how Jesus in in gospel of thomas saying he will change His mother to be a MEN in order her can entering heaven is this a doctrine of God????

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

@@endtimeslips4660 hes a gnostic. Any Christian who reads it will see its comical nonsense. Literary garbage. Not Satans best work.

@bethbartlett5692

2 жыл бұрын

The Texts are truly interesting subjects and particularly when observed, absent in bias, and compared to those that were compiled by Constatine and his Priests for the "Bible" × the edits they made + (the following edits, mistransulations, misinterpretations, Greek to Latin and Greek to English, old Hebrew to Greek, and so on) and then there's those "King's edits" and more) ...as some very much qualified for the Bible, by their Own Standards or said to be. The "Gospel of Thomas" comes to mind and it largely/fully Jesus/Yeshua. Delicious subject and truly mind expanding studies. Continue the journey with a mind "free of" blocks and the picture emerges. That is just so exciting! Note: the Text Revelations is one I refuse to read/watch content on, as (I have a concept that it was either created for the Fear Factor, or requires all the Texts to be understood first, and still likely has had edits). I remain uncertain that the Dead Sea Scrolls have been translated w/o edits, "Rockefeller Museum in Israel", I'm not as familiar with who is managing the "Nag Hamadi Library" Texts. The Gnostics have a far greater value than one would initially presume and "the History absolutely Matters". I would encourage consideration for "a study of the various early groups of Gnostic Christains sources of information", further, Akhenaten *was not mindlessly worshiping the Sun, the planet,* rather "he used it as Symbology" as One God, and from which all souls are of and from (the rays with hands). This causes me to pause and ask myself: (could Mainstream Archaeologists/Egyptologists actually be "minds that are fully boundaries by learned information and so highly fearful it impedes any natural Logic? But that's not how I ask myself, I really must admit, my lower mind 1st screams: "Are they that definitively Ignorant or stupid?" But we will keep that beyween us, lol. One can see that those whom bring truths, threatening the minds of greed and power, are targeted and removed. Maybe the Revelation will be truths emerging so rapidly that the Powers can not react quickly enough and this are Consumed by Truths and Harmony "is" hey, Thoughts create...! Finally, why did they, Constatine and Priests, pick Paul, when they could have selected James, brother of Yeshua? Answer: My Perspective is, *"Because James was more correct, had credibility, and very much identified with Judaism, but that did not work for a Religion of Rome, fully preoccupied with Power, Control, and inequality."* It would not serve their purpose.

@billestevens3993

Жыл бұрын

Aaa;

Did I just step into an alternate timeline? How have I never heard of this? As someone who aspired to be a minister, spent a brief stint as an Orthodox monastic, and has read a lot of church history, I don't know how this has never crossed my radar. Just goes to show that we never know as much as we think we do.

@Chris-op8tt

2 жыл бұрын

The internet was weak in your day.

@raywhite7179

2 жыл бұрын

There's shittons of books that didn't make it into the canon bible. LOL

@WmRike

2 жыл бұрын

@@raywhite7179 Yeah, I'm aware. Just never heard of this particular one, which is weird, considering how important it seems to have been to early Christians.

@uncannyvalley2350

2 жыл бұрын

Arc of the Covenant: The Sky The Temple of Solomon is the Temple of Melqart in Tyre, flanked by pillars of Gold and Emerald, representing Osiris and Isis, aka Isis and Ra, and El, their son, aka Saturn. Israel is in fact the Phoenician word for Saturn. Hermes Trismegistus (the Thrice Great Moon/ Enoch) hid his Emerald tablets (10 commandments of Arkhenaten) in the Ark, just as Enoch buried his 36,525 scrolls under two pillars of Gold and Emerald, representing the number of days in a year times 100, the Egyptian number of perfection. These pillars also appear in the Sky, Orion and Taurus, marking the Silver gate, where soups of the departed entered to traverse the underworld, emerging (if they were worthy of it) at the Golden Gate of Serpentis, aka Ophuichus 13th sunsign of the Assyrian Zodiac that appears in the night sky at Easter/Spring on April 1st, with the Paschal Full Moon on April 14. Hercules is also found in the same part of the Sky, also known as Herakles son of Hera or Bael son of Ashera, or Thor, son of Hathor. Another form of the Arc is the Sarcophagus of a pharoah, or God, being the avatar for said God, which is born on a Barque, such as the Barque of Amun (the Moon) in the Temple of Rameses II. It was Rameses II who married a Hittite Princess to create the Neo Assyrian Empire in 911BC, marrying Jezebel, (Bel/Bael/Queen) of Sidon, which means Kingdom of the Fish (Pisces) representing the transition of Aries into Pisces, when the Moon enters Osiris and Isis (Orion and Taurus) on the Fall Equinox in September, the Egyptian, Phoenician, Jewish, Assyrian, and Celtic New Year. Jezebel was the daughter of Ahiram, builder of the Tower of Babel (another name for Cairo) so Pharoah could meet the God of Moses, and the Temple of melqart was found on the Island Fortress of Tyre, just offshore from Urshu Shalom, City of the New Moon 🌚, and root of the word Jerusalem. If you look up the Sarcophagus of Eshmunazar II in Sidon you'll find it has the longest known inscription of Phoenician in the world, and refers to the 14 yr old boy encased within as the Widow's Scion, a reference to the founder of Freemasonry, which Tyre was a center for in its day, and also where Pythagoras was born. The 14 is relevant because 14 is also the number of pieces Osiris is chopped into, with Isis recovering all but his Phallus. With no number for zero this denotes the 13 signs of the zodiac, with the Phallus in the middle acting as a sundial, the shadow pointing to the ruling starsign. Eshmun was the Phoenician god of healing and of Plagues, of the virus and the vaccine, and is reincarnated in the forms of Imhotep, El Ashmunein (Enoch) Asclepius, Pythagoras, etc, Bearer of the Caduceus, or Serpent Staff, also known as Apollo, known as Zeus of the Cave, born of Typhon just as Thoth was born of Tphens, the hundred headed God, Hydra, which takes up 100 degrees of the night sky across Leo ♌ Hence the Vaticanus Graecus, original name of the Bible written in 325BC, translating to The Son of the Devine Serpent. Fitting then that Serpentis takes the form of a cave with 7 main stars, just as Jesus was born and died in a cave, in September and April, the Equinox points of the Zodiac. Hence September or Zayim, represents Aleph or Alpha in the rise of Orion, and Omega, in Zayim, 7th month of the Zodiac, the Sunsign of Serpentis. And riding on the back of Taurus, as Europa rides the Bull, is Pleiades Isis, sitting at 33 degrees of the Zodiac, hence the Celtic name parisii, or Paris, being Par Bull, and Isis the rider. Barque of Aten Boat of the Sun Barque of Amun Boat of the Moon Amun Ra, both Sun and Moon as one. The Metonic Calendar, and the cycle of the Phoenix They used these boats to traverse the Zodiac, crossing at two points, the Silver and Golden Gates of Orion and Ophiuchus ⛎ The Phoenix landed on the Barque of Amun in the Holy of Holies in the Temple of Rameses in Luxor, just as it did at the Temple of Solomon in Tyre. The Egyptian name of the Pheonix was the Bennu or Benben, the same name used for the Capstone of the Pyramids, also known as the Altar or Ra. In fact by converting the Pyramids measurements into Megalithic Yards you get a 354 day calendar, 12 moons of 29.5 days, with 11.25 left over. Every 216 years the Metonic cycle churns out one extra day, so in order to synchronize the Calendar the Pheonix arrives, anointing itself in Frankinscense and Myrrh and self igniting upon the Altar of Ra, representing the removal of three days from the Calendar at Easter every 630 years. The Jewish Phoenix was called the Hoyle, the Phoenician Phoenix was called the Phoenix, hence sons of the Phoenix, or Sons of Light, the same name used by the Essenes to refer to themselves, as they dedicated themselves to interpreting the Mysteries of Pythagoras, whose base means Heart (Bel) of the Serpent 🐍 There are 10 of these 216 year sets to an astrological age of 2160 years. Arkhenaten means "Light of the Sun", but his first name Amunhotep meant the "Happy Moon", a reference to the New Moon, which is seen as Peaceful, while the Full Moon was seen a Warlike. He had other names too, like Echnaton, an awfully close transliteration of Enoch, and he initiated the worship of Aton, or Edom, Adam, Adena, Edina, and Odina, aka Odin, around the time Dionysus (Queen Isis) worship appears, and it was Dionysian Architects that built the Temple of Solomon, at the time of the Hittite Kings, and the General Uriah, who defended Urshu from a Chariot invasion sent by Carcamesh, which happened at the same time as the battle of Troy. Thus two pivotal battles of the ancient world Troy, and Kadesh, mirror two key dates in Jewish traditions, Solomon, and King Ahab. Both involve the Egyptians

@cahallo5964

2 жыл бұрын

@@WmRike a lot of books seem to have been taken away because they were redundant

Roman Catholic Church considers Hermas as part of the “holy tradition” and it is included in Church Fathers book collections

@andrewsuryali8540

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Unfortunately they also still consider the Epistle of Barnabas part of the same tradition. They just don't talk about it.

@LadyMaria

2 жыл бұрын

Same with the Orthodox Church.

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

Yes because it contradicts revelation and was written by gnostics. And since the Catholic church is ran by gnostics that makes sense. Also since the papacy is the biblical antichrist they would odviously hate revelation.

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

@@LadyMaria the orthodox church is controlled by Rome.

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsuryali8540 yes and the corrupted manuscripts that contain these books are the only ones that the apostate churches use for modern bibles.

"Those Enslaved to God" really shows how the context of some things really have changed in 2000 years. Because "Enslaved to god" does not sound like a positive religious experience in 2021 and it would probably make most Christians at least partially uncomfortable. It also sounds like a dope name for a heavy metal band.

@emilybarclay8831

2 жыл бұрын

The majority of the bible would make a modern Christian very uncomfortable if they read it without apologetics. Seriously, reading that book with no religious bias is absolutely terrifying

@mjbalbo

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh it mostly sounds bad for Americans only. "Slave of God" is a common expression among Christians from around the world.

@anonvideo738

2 жыл бұрын

The word Muslim comes from "submitted to god". John Locke states that all people are gods property. So it isnt that strange.

@pancakeparatrooper9361

2 жыл бұрын

maybe since slavery was so common (but also not nearly as bad as modern slavery) they were like “aye, the chances of being a slave are high, so at least i’m a slave to THIS GUY instead of Lucious over there!”

@Salsmachev

2 жыл бұрын

It's worth noting that when Americans hear the word slavery, we think of the specific type of slavery practiced in the united states. Slavery is a very broad word and applies to more than just brutal chattel slavery. Some examples would be serfdom, debt peonage, corvée labour, prison labour, and even slavery based on religious conversion. To fully understand the term you'd probably have to look into the specific form of slavery practiced in Rome at the time.

One note about genre: Apocalyptic doesn’t mean “end times”. It just means “uncovering” or “revelation”, like Paul’s story of the Road to Damascus (Paul uses the word in Gal 1:12 and Gal 2:2, same word as the first word in the book of Revelation). Apocalyptic texts are often ones with prophetic images and visions, and many are often interpreted as relating to end times, but they certainly don’t have to be about the end times.

@achaeanmapping4408

2 жыл бұрын

In Greek the Book of Revelation is actually called the Apocalypse of John (Αποκάλυψις Ιωάννου)

@williandalsoto806

2 жыл бұрын

Good observation, that's something I knew but didn't remember.

@stoferb876

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, in ancient greek the word didn't mean "end times" it just meant "uncovering", but the word is modern english, it's not ancient greek, and it is indeed used both by scholars and laypeople to talk about a kind of end of this world and usually the establishment of a new better world to replace it. That is how the term is actually used so no, you cannot explain away the modern english meaning of the word by it's ancient greek precursor.

@johnkeefer8760

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoferb876 of course that is the modern meaning of the word. But when studying biblical genres we should make sure to use the word in the same way Biblical Greek and the authors used it. Otherwise we are misrepresenting or misunderstanding them

@LoudWaffle

2 жыл бұрын

Good point to remember. But would it be accurate that even in the ancient world the word was already attaining the connotations of "end times" despite the etymology's difference?

Fun fact: the Shepherd has the oldest known (as far as I know) depiction of the white bridal dress in Christian weddings. More interesting is that it's wearer is the primordial spiritual Church that appears extensively in the Visions. I've always suspected that that imagery was inspired by Ephesians, which depicts the Christian Church as the Bride of Christ.

@lindenshepherd6085

2 жыл бұрын

@@poetryflynn3712 True, but the conception of wearing a white dress as a bride, as well as the association between whiteness and purity, came from earlier (usually Christian) ideas.

@danielpaulson8838

2 жыл бұрын

White was worn by priestesses in Rome and Egypt as a symbol of purity. They used white marble in the same way. Christianity, like all religions and beliefs evolved from previous religions, myth and spiritual teachings. It's globally dynamic as symbolism goes.

@realtalk6195

2 жыл бұрын

Christians from different areas and cultures wore different types of dress during weddings. You're conflating modern dress from a specific culture with something entirely different. Very misleading.

@scottylilacleona9193

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus, the first to be married to the church!

@RoderickVI

Жыл бұрын

@@danielpaulson8838 Romans wore yellow as bridal dresses, and marble statues were fully painted

The analogy of members being stones of a tower (or building) is very inclusive. For example, some are ready to take their place in the Church. Others, need some more shaping to fit into the structure. Finally, some will be 'cast aside', not to be used as stones. However, limestone and marble (common building materials) were also BURNED! Turned into lime, which was the mortar between stones. So, after being rejected, burned (punished?/purified), they ALSO are a part of the finished construction. A building without mortar, will fail!

@komrookmetmy465

2 жыл бұрын

The failings of others can serve a purpose to educate and further strengthen the bonds between those of a collective group. An interesting reading of the metaphor!

@kacangajaib1563

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm an interesting insight🙌

@runningtraveler1193

2 жыл бұрын

If I'm not mistaken, the Incas didn't use mortar. Interesting idea, though.

@kellydalstok8900

2 жыл бұрын

@@runningtraveler1193 It is true the Incas didn’t use mortar. The book, however, was written in the Eastern Mediterranean area.

@spaghettiking653

2 жыл бұрын

@@kellydalstok8900 I believe the implication was that the "purification" part can be argued redundant, as it subjects people to suffering in vain since mortar is not strictly necessary.

I love how the history of the canonization of the Bible and the books that didn’t make the cut is more complex and interesting than Dan Brown and other clickbait articles make it seem. Could you make a video on the epistle of Clement?

@TS-1267

9 ай бұрын

.... " SIMON COWELL"-ESQ... OOOH!… The Thought... 😂

"by the shepherd of hermas" is my new exclamation whenever something shocking happens

Very ineresting! On the people anslaved by God part, it is actually still said in Greece/Cyprus. The Greek Orthodox Church often describes christians as Gods slaves and it is used to describe people that are pious

@HispanusCandor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, very Islamic... (look up the meaning of Islam/Muslim)

@joshdt7598

2 жыл бұрын

Is this really that different from the standard “servant of god” thing though?

@jacovawernett3077

2 жыл бұрын

I refer to myself as a puppet, with the prescient visions and words that God spoke to my right ear from Heaven. When He said, you are Anchor, He showed me. Fortunately He has a sense of humor.

@jacovawernett3077

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear I disagree. God has spoken to my right ear from Heaven 20 times since 8.4.2015. I recommend you read some professor Joseph Campbell. Man and Myth. He also did interviews with Bill Moyer. 11.11.2015 morning, Honolulu I woke up that morning and God spoke to my right ear from Heaven. He said, you are Rain. I walked out to the balcony and stretched my arms to the sky and said, it's time for a rainbow. Immediately a double rainbow appeared beside the building and reached out to the pacific ocean. 11.17.2015...Eveving...Eve/ Ewa Beach Waikiki, One of the things God told me I am is Anchor. One of the things God told me I am is Evergreen. He is my Rabbi. Lchaim from Jacova, born March 11th in a Bethlehem. God, Gott, Elohim Adonai Hashem told me to make Israel One.

@HispanusCandor

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear Schizopost moment

I'm surprised you didn't mention the Muratorian fragment (c. AD 170). It says Hermas was the brother of the Roman bishop Pius, and by implication, composed between AD 140-154.

@stephendevore

2 жыл бұрын

This speaker has often left out important information, in maybe all of the videos of his I watched (at least 3, I think).

@ikengaspirit3063

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephendevore LINK TO THOSE OTHER ONES

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

Its not that old but even if it was it wouldnt matter. Its gnostic not Christian. It contradicts revelation 100%.

@ikengaspirit3063

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshportie what about it is gnostic?

@andrewsuryali8540

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikengaspirit3063 It is only gnostic if the Apocalypse of Peter mentioned in it is the same as the known Coptic Apocalypse of Peter found in the Nag Hammadi library. The Greek Apocalypse of Peter is not only not gnostic, it's the basis of the modern Christian view of the afterlife. Unfortunately we don't know for sure which one the Muratorian fragment refers to.

I had no idea that this book existed and I've been a Christian my entire life. Thank you, Andrew!!!

@robinharwood5044

Жыл бұрын

Christian teachers are either ignorant or actively lying and deceiving you, so they won't tell you this sort of thing.

Doing a lot of religious studies courses this year so thanks for the inspiration! Love these videos!!

@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear *_"...occult symbols in the background. ...the evil ones at every turn. Pyramids are a huge big sign of satanic symbols. We are on the cusp of the tribulation..."_* Why, that's just Crazy Talk, you lunatic, delusional doubloon! {:o:O:}

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 because hes a Catholic deciever.

@Dr_Armstrong

2 жыл бұрын

Yo, Haedox is studying religion! Glad to see you bouncing back.

@johnsherfey3675

Жыл бұрын

Weird seeing you here, God bless, I noticed the cross on your last video!

@clouds-rb9xt

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsherfey3675 Yes he is a Christian!

I saw the Codex Sinaiticus at the British Library, was really amazing to see it "in person."

@brucedressel8873

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing fake piece of fraudulent garbage.

Fun story: I watched your video and asked my professor, Dr. Brandon Simonson at Boston University School of Theology, if I could use it for my paper... he recommended your channel. Seems you are popular around these parts. Do you recommend any particular scholar(ship)s on this topic? Thanks! Watching videos like your are part of the reason I ended up at BU!

@lucamckenn5932

Жыл бұрын

Just watch out where you're posted as I've noticed some churches are less concerned about being spiritual shepherd's and are more concerned with getting mortal possessions. I don't think priests should live in dire poverty, but there's such a thing as too lavish. I just doubt the merit of their character, and I'm sure Jesus would have some choice words for these mega church owners buying private jets and mansions.

@edwinholcombe2741

Жыл бұрын

What is a BU?

@johangrostkerck6046

Жыл бұрын

@@edwinholcombe2741 Boston University I assume

This is bar none, the best academic religious channel there is. I so appreciate your content. Thank you

@brucedressel8873

2 жыл бұрын

Ya for heathens.

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

Жыл бұрын

@@brucedressel8873 If you're looking for material on Heathens, you might wanna look at Jackson Crawford's channel.

@archcast5550

Жыл бұрын

@@brucedressel8873 Yeap The guy rejected the book of Enoch . he is no different for Jerome

@chrisrosenkreuz23

Жыл бұрын

bro do u even The modern Hermeticist or ESOTERICA?

@danielpaulson8838

Жыл бұрын

I like the replies from the idiots. I watch many different sources. bro. We live in a world of infants in control.

Could you also cover the other extra book in the Codex Sinaiticus, the Epistle of Barnabas?

@andrewsuryali8540

2 жыл бұрын

Otherwise known as the "uh oh, we don't like to talk about the existence of this book" epistle.

@elgatonegro1703

2 жыл бұрын

ffs i just wasted 15 mins looking into this because I forgot that barnabas !== barabbas...or maybe not wasted; that character (i'd imagine) provides a lot insight in to the socio-political and philosophical mindsets of the apocryphal writers incidentally it also is a good reminder why the pronunciation of jesus of nazareth's fixed the way it did- imagine spending half the gospel having to be like 'then he spoke to Josh....no not himself....no not Josh G either, i mean Josh T- you know, Josh T, the guy who was always doing that thing? Anyway so the messiah is dying he's talking to Josh B...no not Josh like himself, i mean the other josh who as it happened was being executed at the same time.' Fanfic explanation that Pilate was like 'look, I can consider freeing multiple people here, but for record-keeping purposes I'm afraid I can release only one Josh'. Then there was too much furore so he just made a selection based on alphabetical order.

@nicolasferreira1146

2 жыл бұрын

It the more anti semitic text of the early chistianity

@AntediluvianRomance

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bruhver And what they did is not accept this new religion-in-the-forming.

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewsuryali8540 Wdym? The Epistle of Barnabas is pretty mainstream for Christians interested in the pre-Nicene period, at least in my experience.

I've been loving the more obscure (?) topics and texts you've been covering in your videos lately. Great work as always.

So glad to have caught this fresh off the presses, at night here in the Philippines! Always wondered what this book was actually about.

@ikazuchioni

2 жыл бұрын

Uy kabayan!

@baranugon8243

2 жыл бұрын

Subukan mo hanapin yung Apostolic Fathers ni Michael Holmes sa z-lib.

@tiagomnlmnl

2 жыл бұрын

Eyy kababayan

@pokemonhacker01

2 жыл бұрын

Mga kabayan!

@edanthonydelosreyes6101

2 жыл бұрын

Hello po te ano po fb mo. God fearing po ako

The Shepherd and the Didache are my favorite early bodies of work.

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I also love 1 Clement

I've been subscribed for years..and watched you and this channel grow Andrew...thank you for all your work ..and continue to progress..

It is so good to see videos about stuff you never knew about in religion! Good job, RFB for making learning about religion so valuable since i never learned about this before!

A decade ago I made the Sheperd part of my second canon which includes Enoch, Baruch, Barnabas, Clement and more. I printed all and attached them into a folder. I was Evangelical Christian at that time but couldn't fit in.

@realtalk6195

2 жыл бұрын

What are you now?

@GabrielEddy

Жыл бұрын

@@realtalk6195 Human, mortal, frail, sinful etc.

@xwhitetruthseekerx

11 ай бұрын

I think most of us here can relate to that, we don’t seem to fit in 😊

@vgames1543

9 ай бұрын

Nice, what are your Canons in order?

@SOG_Conquistador

7 ай бұрын

Enoch is not cannon at all complete blasphemy! Not even written by Enoch either

Great video! So glad to know there are other religious scholars making great educational content for KZread! Happy to have caught this video early when it released. I’ll be sharing this with my class when we talk about Hermas!

Studying Ancient History along with Religions has become my hobby and you are a wealth of knowledge of which I learn what is real truth. I can count on what you say to be the real deal and many thanks for all your work to bring us what is real~!👍👍

Thank you for posting this. Very well done.

Another great video, thank you for all your hard work!

Regarding the "People enslaved to God" statement, it is interesting to point out that Muslims continue to refer to themselves as God's slaves.

@johnkeefer8760

2 жыл бұрын

I think there are many religion scholars who think Islam was either started by or heavily consisted of members from a splinter sect (or sects) of Christianity that was considered “heretical” by the wider Christian world

@achaeanmapping4408

2 жыл бұрын

It is actually still used in the Greek world as well

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the phrase also appears several times in the Bible, most notably Paul's letters where he will either call himself a slave of Christ or of God, and will call others slaves of Christ or God as compliments of their faithfulness.

@pebystroll

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnkeefer8760 I find this interesting, where can I find more information about this

@abdelhamidmetwally2266

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnkeefer8760 Muslims believe that Islam is basically a continuation of the work of Moses and Jesus. Late sixth century pagan Arabs were well acquainted with Christianity and Judaism and pagan Arabs actually endorsed the belief that they were descendants of Abraham through Ishmael

Thank you,Dr.Henry. Great information here.

Thanks for the videos they're so amazing

What a fascinating text! Thank you for making this more widely known

Excellent lecture! Thanks Andrew

This is a wonderful presentation of this text! Very well done!

@cernowaingreenman

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear You're seeing devils everywhere and places that they aren't.

Very informative video. Perhaps a video on a list of all the books that were at least under consideration to become part of the Bible would be great. It could be helpful for people to know what books didn't besides only what books did make it into the Bible.

I didn't know a book like this existed. Great video, very interesting! 👍

love and appreciate your work, man 🙏

Very, very good piece. Also, excellent photography!

2:54 I distinctly remember hearing the "The Tower" story in Sunday school. Except the "Stones" were bricks that were already shaped and would play chicken with a rock crusher.

@jamesdayem

2 күн бұрын

What denomination of church did you attend Sunday school?

Its interesting that the shepherd in this book has a name very similar to the greek god of shepherds Hermes.

@ditzycup8140

8 ай бұрын

Hermes appears in many religion. In Greece as Hermes, and in Egypt as Hermes Trimegulus (“Thrice Great Hermes”).

@neetzor

2 ай бұрын

I came here after hearing this book mentioned in another video and the story of Hermas seeing a woman bathing. Hermes from the Greek Pantheon if memory serves had a child with Venus whom was a hermaphrodite.

Your videos are amazing, mate.

It's interesting that your video popped into my feed after I was looking at illuminated manuscript art. Too cool.

I requested this video! I don't think this actually has anything to do with my request but, still excited.

This video has me thinking of Voodoo and also the Ghost Dance. How do Oppressed people flip the script on a dominant culture? How do oppressed individuals empower themselves to resist? We see in Voodoo a threat, employing the fears of the dominant culture against itself. The Ghost Dance did this too. There’s a gangster rap responsive, reframing narrative. A story of the futility of the master sealing his fate with each crack of the lash. The evil he fears is himself and he can’t escape. His fate is sealed, while my destiny will triumph ultimately. For those interested, I recommend “God’s Red Son the Ghost Dance and the making of Modern America” by Louis Warren. Any recommendations on the cultural development of Voodoo?

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

You can check out my video on Haitian Vodou for a quick intro. More broadly: there are social-psychologists and anthropologists that theorize that "spirit possession" rituals are common among marginalized people groups as practitioners (the ones being possessed) take on a new, powerful identity outside the usual social norms. Being possessed or "mounted" by spirits called lwa is a central ritual of Haitian Vodou.

@cipherklosenuf9242

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear Viewers of religion for Breakfast appreciate the scholarship. The host organizes information to present complex history with clarity. This channel is an excellent secular resource. Your reference to occult symbols, the Good Book, Tribulation and evil doers signal that you have strong beliefs in the Supernatural. I don’t share your convictions, but it angers me when thieves take advantage of people on line. People with Strong beliefs can be exploited by wolves in sheep’s clothing because it reveals their confidence and vulnerabilities (like Goliath). As you know, The Good Shepherd doesn’t need your credit card number or personal information, so he won’t ask for those things. Thanks for the heads up Rhee, we all need to be critical thinkers, good advice.

@lucamckenn5932

Жыл бұрын

All I know about voodoo is that it created my favorite "jive" and "swagger" character, Baron Semadi. I may have misspelled his last name as I easily blur the lines between the real character in myth with the fictitious character from Warcraft known as 'Bwon Samdi' who is essentially the same character from my uninformed perspective. Warcraft Trolls are seemingly a direct copy of voodoo culture so if you like one you should like the other. This has been Lucas here for another biased self insert of my own interests at an ungodly hour.

Quite fascinating. Good video, thanks

Sooooo glad you mentioned Simonides!! Such a weird and fascinating character! Great video overall

I wonder if in 1,000 years Luke Skywalker will be considered a real person (perhaps even divine because of his magic) due to historians unearthing millions of DVDs and BluRays documenting his life and trials

@marcus3591

Ай бұрын

Probably not, because historians would also uncover the numerous examples of corroborating media that explicitly proves that 20th and 21st century people were very aware that the events depicted in the Star Wars films were fictional. Something that there is exactly zero examples of in the case of real historical figures like Jesus of Nazareth or his followers.

you have a wonderful channel with some wonderful stuff, mate.

Thanks for these excellent videos!

Great presentation :)

Great content! Fascinating history of this book that I wasn’t aware of. I can see why it might have been so popular with early christians but without mentioning Jesus I guess it was an reasonable editorial decision not to include it in canon. Thanks!

Love the haircut. I've never heard of this codex, and I wish you'd gone more in depth in what it claimed to preach about being a good Christian. I also wonder if the author(s) had any sense of its impact on the Chrisitan community when it was written. AND I'm curious as to how the angels mentioned in it rank/fit in with the other angels/archangels that are talked about in Christian theology.

@charliebrown5755

2 жыл бұрын

Love the haircut?

@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliebrown5755 The commenter likes his haircut

Fantastic video! Thank you

Great video, thanks!

Would love an episode on that other book you mentioned, the Epistle of Barnabas

@nosuchthing8

Ай бұрын

He isn't putting out these amazing videos now.

Early Christian literature that lacks a clear defined connection to earlier Judaic practices is incredibly fascinating

Another fantastic entry, Dr. Henry! 😁

Thank you for your work! 🌹

Hello, just wanted to say Thank you for all your work. Totally grateful for such unbiased, genuine and insightful studies which you share here on youtube. Gill;Dx

Hello Dr. Henry, the video was amazing, as usual. I have a request and didn’t know how to reach you so here goes nothing. I’m Armenian, and am an atheist, but am very much involved with religious and historic discourse and wanted to ask if there is any way you could do a video on the christian history of Armenia. I tried doing my own research and fell short, this and talking to a local historian and priest is my last hope. Thank you so much❤️

Great video. Thank you.

Great stuff!

Never even heard of it. It seems so odd to realize something a lot of people thought was important for a movement is virtually unknown by modern adherents. It kinda reminds me of how young people post reaction videos to songs from the 70s, 80s, or even 90s.

@nosuchthing8

Жыл бұрын

Good example! Or the reception of the movie John Carter of Mars. Many consider it derivative when in fact it came out before the idea of superman and star wars.

I LOVE researching all the texts not included in the NT or OT. They always have weird powerful teachings

@xwhitetruthseekerx

11 ай бұрын

Me too, l always think to the last verse in John and believe we are supposed to seek his word. I have been looking into all the gnostic teachings and texts, fascinating stuff.

@lonnkon

11 ай бұрын

@@xwhitetruthseekerx be carefull with those books everybook that is in the bible or is mentioned in it is the true word of god everything else cannot be considered valid!

@xwhitetruthseekerx

11 ай бұрын

@@lonnkon canonised by man.

Absolutely fascinating!

Thanks for the explanation of this book.

It might not get as much hip attention now because the text doesn't overturn or challenge traditional Christian orthodoxy in any way.

Thanks for this helpful video. I had to go reread the book which I haven’t bothered with in decades. Yep, I remember why, now. It’s going back on the shelf. RE: “Book of Eldad and Modat” at 6.03 Actually: Shep 7.4 ὡς γέγραπται ἐν τῷ Ἐλδὰδ καὶ Μωδάτ, τοῖς προφητεύσασιν ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ τῷ λαῷ This verse doesn’t actually have “book” (Βίβλος) written, so it might be saying, “As written in the [account] of Eldad and Medad, those who were prophesying in the wilderness to the people.” Compare the LXX Num 11.27 Ελδαδ καὶ Μωδαδ προφητεύουσιν ἐν τῇ παρεμβολῇ.

Awesome videos, this is exactly what I look for in a KZread channel, informative, pleasant to listen to, with great graphics. Keep up the good work man 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Thanks for all you do.

@spirituallevelofbeing7308

Жыл бұрын

If your interested in the shepherd of hermas I've uploaded it on my channel I also upload other scriptures banned from the bible and other ancient religions

At 13:58 to 14:15 you clearly explained why this scripture (Sheperd of Hermas) was left out of the Bible👍👍

@cernowaingreenman

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear You're seeing devils everywhere and places that they aren't.

@jesusnthedaisychain

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOLOforJESUStheTRIBULTIONear You're a misguided fool. Begone and trouble people no further.

I've once read in a Christian Newspaper that the qualification for a scripture to get into the Canon was the message of the pardoning of any truly repentant sinner and of the eternal salvation in Jesus Christ. According to your very interesting explanations the Shepherd of Hermas lacks exactly this.

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Fox Yes it's probably the lack of apostolic connection which meant the book didn't make the canon. Being so long might not have helped either. It would have been weird to give this guy more space than St Paul.

Great video.

Definitely some new information on Hermes. Great video Brother 👍👍😎🤟🤟♒️

In comparing remaining papyri you should consider the length of the work. SoH is much longer than any NT book. Also it has much better textual support.

I thought the "shoulder angel/shoulder devil" derived from the ancient Greek agathos daimon and cacodaimon. Maybe the Shepherd of Hermas is the missing link?

Always interesting. And informative. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

Fascinating thank you!

The term "those enslaved to God" doesn't seem strange, it's a term still used at least in Greek Orthodoxy.

The idea of the Angel of Righteousness and the Angel of Wickedness remind me a lot of the Jewish idea of the Yetzer Hara and Yetzer Tov, especially the Kabbalistic interpretation of that idea.

What I really like about these videos is the message that they convey about how everything changes over time whether it be people, languages, or religions. And just as religions change over time so to do their perspectives on what should be considered Canon as well their views on ethics, culture, society and humanity's role in the cosmos. The greatest mistake we often tend to make is assume that a religion's views are set in stone from day one and that how a religion feels about a particular topic in today's modern world is not only how it has always felt about said topic but how it will always feel about said topic.

I'd love to see you chat more on Mythvision Podcast with other scholars overall

*It's a great book. Highly recommended.*

I love that statue of emperor Constantine because it looks like he's rolling his eyes. Either the artist made a minor mistake or had an excellent sense of humor.

Thank you for this church history lesson. As long as I’ve been a believer I’ve always wondered why some books never made it into the Canon and this video helps shed a lot of light on the book’s history and that question.

Read your comment under the Trey the Explainer's video a year ago. Was wondering when you would tackle the Shepherd of Hermas.

As I recall, aren't the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus believed to have been among the Bibles requisitioned by Emperor Constantine I after Nicaea I?

@ReligionForBreakfast

2 жыл бұрын

They date to Constantine's reign, so the connection to him is plausible but speculative.

@maxion5109

2 жыл бұрын

Could be. According to Diarmaid MacChulloch author of the History of Christianity, Constantine commissioned fifty copies of the Bible from Eusebius of Cesarea and proposes it's possible that the Codexes are both survivors from this gift.

@ajithsidhu7183

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast please do on hindu extremism

one other reason it got rejected was its similarity to Islam, in fact you can look up the Migration to Abyssinia (modern day Ethiopia) and see how Muslims and Ethiopians agreed back then that jesus was just a messenger of god, they had a lot in common, i have always heard those stories when i was a child but i didnt know that this book existed, this book just confirmed all stories my grandparents used to tell me 25 years ago

@chimeremnmaozioko17

5 ай бұрын

The book was rejected before Muhammed was even born. The Christian Canon was already set up by about the 4th century.

Very interesting, going to have down load this book

Great video

An unrelated topic I have noticed that major religions of the world have a common element of mysticism Is is the strand that connects all religions

@didack1419

2 жыл бұрын

Foundationally is pretty obvious that religions are based on mystical experiences, that's really the only way for people to claim or to believe that they have acquired knowledge of cosmology-theology, typically in the form of revelations from gods but not necessarily always, *but* , there are branches of religions that rejected at least some mystical experiences (typically those that were about acquiring knowledge). You can see people discussing the topic of mysticism very negatively in 18th and 19th century sources, and really, mysticism had not a very good image for most people (Christians) at that time. They essentially rejected the idea that people could acquire knowledge via mystical experiences; revelations were something that happened to chosen people mostly only in Biblical times. It fits with the Enlightment's conception of religion that heavily downplayed things seeing as "superstititous" like miracles; and mysticism is not even empirical testable, which meant that they probably were making stuff up and many were in fact "hereticals". Precisely because of that, people valued studying the sources and natural theology in favor of "subjective experiences". There are also mystical experiences like contemplative prayer, which is particularly relevant in Orthodox Christianity, that are about "feeling the divine". Those were also rejected by many protestants. Apart, mysticism is very prominent in Sufist Islam for example.

Wow! Thanks. Do the roles of women possibly have something to do with the "fall" of the book? 🤔

What a great channel

Cool book! I think I'd like to read it. Love the metaphors!

Is there an English translation? This seems like an interesting piece of literature and I'd love to be able to read it

@didack1419

2 жыл бұрын

You can look it online in pdf.

@baranugon8243

2 жыл бұрын

The best English translation I found was in Michael Holmes' Apostolic Fathers. You can find an online copy in z-lib.

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

2 жыл бұрын

There is but a lot of them have older literary style so are kinda hard to read.

@roberthuron9160

2 жыл бұрын

FYI- There is a book called,"The Lost Books of The Bible",by World Bible Publishers,Inc,and it has both Old TESTAMENT books,and New TESTAMENT books,including Hermas! I can't give you current status on availability,nor price,but someone out there knows,I hope!! Anyway,it worth the effort to find it,and having a nice solid book in hand is worth the price!! Oh yes,Hermas is very inspirational,as it covers the real feelings of unworthiness of any thinking Christian,and treats the subject with consideration and humility,plus a deep understanding! Thank you 😊!

The Shepherd sounds sort of like the Book of Job. It’s outside of the prophetic, apostolic lineage, but fully supports the pilgrim’s process, thus it would have been relegated eventually to the apocryphal arena, since the Formalizing Church was more concerned with its own Religious Authority and Centralization of Ecclesiastical Power and influence. What would be your recommendation on a well done transcript for this text, please?

@MrJMB122

2 жыл бұрын

So to my knowledge like the church tradition believe this was written by one of the early converts. I think he was a brother of Clements of Rome. But because that could never be verified fully Fuller as great of a spiritual book as it was. And trust me I'm Eastern orthodox practicing and and we read this. My priest actually has a reading class where we go through this. Because it is very spiritual helpful but also gives you an insight of how in the inside of how the church was working through the holy tradition.

@neutronalchemist3241

Жыл бұрын

The Muratorian Fragment, that's roughly contemporary to the Sheperd (it states the Sheperd had been written by the brother of Pope Pius I, and so it could not be considered canonical, as it was too recent) already estabilished a canon that's practically the modern one. The deciding factor was the age of the texts that had to be included. Not first century material=not canon (roughly obviously, since modern dating had yet to be invented).

It's interesting that you mention the NT books of Peter weren't written Simon Peter, the Apostle. I know you have talked a little bit about authorship of Matthew at least. You should do a video on the various authors of the NT and which books might have been written by who. Your NT stuff is my favorite!

@fluffysheap

2 жыл бұрын

UsefulCharts has a whole series on that! I don't agree with it 100%, but it's good information. The letters of Peter, specifically, are unlikely to be written by Peter because they don't reflect the sort of things you'd expect to see from Peter. Especially, there is no real personal insight into Jesus, which you would expect from the person who was closest to him. And they have more in common with other works of the late 1st or early 2nd century. And, of course, Peter probably didn't know how to write.

Fascinating 👍 good word

Very interesting here that the stereotype of the "devil on your shoulder' was originally written as another angel. Maybe because later folks thought that was too manipulative for a good guy angel to be seen doing and so changed them into a creature with a clearer negative connotation?

I love when you talk about non canonical books

@brucedressel8873

2 жыл бұрын

aka fables

@aaroncoy7822

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucedressel8873 Fables are about animals, a more accurate picture or what you are describing is a myth. Also it is important to remember that myths are not stories that are not untrue, rather they are tales that don't fit neatly into the historical record that serve as a foundation for a culture. Furthermore when studying objectively such labels breed bias.

@MossyMozart

Жыл бұрын

@@brucedressel8873 - The Church Fathers will be distressed to read your comment calling the canon "fables". More power to you!

Gives me new insight on Bob Marley's "stone that the builder refuse".