The Origins of Satan

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Bibliography:
Armin Lange, “Satanic Verses: The Adversary in the Qumran Manuscripts and Elsewhere,” Revue de Qumran, June 2009
Jason Silverman, Persepolis and Jerusalem: Iranian Influence on the Apocalyptic Hermeneutic, 2012.
Vicente Dobroruka, Persian Influence on Daniel and Jewish Apocalyptic Literature, 2020.
Albert de Jong, “Iranian Connections in the Dead Sea Scrolls,” The Oxford Handbook of the Dead Sea Scrolls, 2010.
Thomas Andrews and Flannery Burke, “What Does it Mean to Think Historically?” Perspectives on History. January 1, 2007.

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  • @ReligionForBreakfast
    @ReligionForBreakfast3 жыл бұрын

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  • @luismerchan9140

    @luismerchan9140

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amogus

  • @dylantennant6594

    @dylantennant6594

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder, what are you opinions on the effects that books like Dante and Paradise Lost had the concepts of Satan? Despite them not being religous texts in the way of the bible, the effect of them have influcencd peoples notions of Satan. I was once told I was going to burn the nine circles for my paganism, or some people will think of Lucifer as a misunderstood anti hero like Milton said.

  • @MastemaJack

    @MastemaJack

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another great video.

  • @dippyfresh1635

    @dippyfresh1635

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, was wondering if you know of any good annotated bibles that can give me better understanding of what the writers meant while giving good historical context. Oh, and I would love to read any other noncanonical annotated books as well, especially the book of Enoch.

  • @KSharpei

    @KSharpei

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol you’re letting your inner nerd show with that TNG reference my friend. I forgot how hilarious that makeup was

  • @Jingleschmiede
    @Jingleschmiede3 жыл бұрын

    Lucifer lives in LA, owns a nightclub and helps a detective solving crimes. Everybody knows that.

  • @SatansFire

    @SatansFire

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if youre talking about the show or Anton Laveys stupid grandson

  • @SatansFire

    @SatansFire

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Eric Moore "Secretly an atheist" is very funny, he was always an atheist. Zeena didnt care for how he was running things and left. Also why are you telling me this, how is this relevant to anything.

  • @SatansFire

    @SatansFire

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Eric Moore LaVey* ? And okay bud....

  • @laflammr

    @laflammr

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol love that series

  • @clownworldhereticmyron1018

    @clownworldhereticmyron1018

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Eric Moore "literally the most influential dude ever" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really? You sincerely believe this?

  • @KillerKittyYT
    @KillerKittyYT3 жыл бұрын

    It's so hard to find scholarly and non-biased resources on demonology on the internet without pouring through every religious text that mentions them. I really would love to see more of this in the future keep it up!

  • @ReligionForBreakfast

    @ReligionForBreakfast

    3 жыл бұрын

    Scholarly and nonsectarian is what RFB is all about! More definitely to come.

  • @garrettdodgen3771

    @garrettdodgen3771

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionForBreakfast I would also be interested in Kabbalah, Tarot, misc Mysticism from a scholarly view. I tried looking for it before but most sources are believers in it rather than examiners of it.

  • @ReligionForBreakfast

    @ReligionForBreakfast

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kabbalah video is coming in March. Script is 60% done.

  • @videosefilmes22

    @videosefilmes22

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionForBreakfast I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @clavicleofcernunnos

    @clavicleofcernunnos

    3 жыл бұрын

    ESOTERICA is another good channel for in depth looks at occult texts including Kabbalah. Found his channel through Angela's Symposium, which was promoted on here with the previous demon video.

  • @ThreeFortySeven
    @ThreeFortySeven4 ай бұрын

    The story of Job is interesting. Satan essentially walks into heaven and God doesn’t cast him out. Instead, he asks, where have you been? Then they have a seemingly polite conversation where God grants Satan permission to test Job’s faith. Also when Jesus is tempted by Satan, he doesn’t immediately tell him to go away. He lets the tempting go on for a little while and then appears to get fed up with it and sends Satan away. It almost suggests that God tolerates Satan and even indulges him. That’s very different than what I was taught growing up.

  • @hayuseen6683

    @hayuseen6683

    3 ай бұрын

    Isn't it God that tests Job? I may be misremembering, but Satan doesn't perform the trials, he just bets that Job will fail them and God keeps coming up with more brutal trials to prove to Satan that Job is faithful. Gotta reread it now...

  • @forciaroandha9855

    @forciaroandha9855

    2 ай бұрын

    I found that interesting as a child too. I was fascinated by the book of Job for a long time because it sounds like Satan just waltzes in and starts chatting with God.

  • @1God1Christ

    @1God1Christ

    2 ай бұрын

    Also it says Satan was among the Sons of God in heaven. So that lines up with the view in Judaism that he’s an angel subordinate to God but acts as a prosecutor to people’s sins.

  • @SamuelBlack84

    @SamuelBlack84

    2 ай бұрын

    God asks Satan where he's been Shouldn't he know?

  • @JimmyHandtrixx

    @JimmyHandtrixx

    2 ай бұрын

    who taught you?

  • @WJSipe1
    @WJSipe1 Жыл бұрын

    As someone raised in a small, Evangelical community who saw their every belief as immutable and eternal, it is soooo refreshing to hear religion discussed in such a mature and thoughtful way. It’s also just more fun and interesting! Thanks for a great video.

  • @beesting6135

    @beesting6135

    10 ай бұрын

    Only for itching ears

  • @whatdoesthisthingdo

    @whatdoesthisthingdo

    10 ай бұрын

    I’m getting cult survivor vibes.

  • @lisasommerlad1337

    @lisasommerlad1337

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@beesting6135whose ears are you referring to?

  • @beesting6135

    @beesting6135

    9 ай бұрын

    @@lisasommerlad1337 yours

  • @YOutsider

    @YOutsider

    5 ай бұрын

    careful... eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil is a no-no. 😊 you can't un-know something. your reality may become less magical.

  • @dinahnicest6525
    @dinahnicest65253 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Calvin's tiger, Hobbes, who says that "Humans are sufficiently capable of doing evil without any need of supernatural help."

  • @erichred2858

    @erichred2858

    3 жыл бұрын

    Devil eats us. You are domesticated animal product Psalms 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

  • @andrewblake2254

    @andrewblake2254

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, But the question is why?

  • @citiwoman53

    @citiwoman53

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hobbes, smart kitty.

  • @dannikasoukoroff9633

    @dannikasoukoroff9633

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, they use spiritual possession often as an excuse to cover up evils they choose to do as to not be responsible.

  • @erichred2858

    @erichred2858

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dannikasoukoroff9633 the djinn realm is parallel beside our realm. They can see us but we can't all the time see them... A djinn or dybuk can easily latch on and feed off us... Check out the greek archons or Islamic djinn, same thing. Legend says the devil touches every baby out of the womb except mother mary because her mother hannah did not sin... All born into sin!

  • @Aernoth1
    @Aernoth13 жыл бұрын

    As a decidedly irreligious person, I find the practice, concepts, and history of religion extremely fascinating. Thank you so much for these videos that you put out!

  • @howiegruwitz3173

    @howiegruwitz3173

    3 жыл бұрын

    You ain't seen nothing yet.. I'm going to have to start a youtuber channel

  • @MrGksarathy

    @MrGksarathy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same.

  • @ParadiseLordRyu

    @ParadiseLordRyu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@howiegruwitz3173 let me guess, one where you trash on everyone else’s beliefs but yours

  • @cliveadams7629

    @cliveadams7629

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ParadiseLordRyu Tricky for an atheist who doesn't have any religion. Or are you one of those who insists that not believing is some kind of belief system which counts as a religion?

  • @johnroscoe2406

    @johnroscoe2406

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Lozano Not necesarily unless he explicitly says so for himself. "Irreligious" does not explicitly mean "I have no religion." It can very well mean you do, but you don't practice it or don't practice it orthodoxically.

  • @IamBrixTM
    @IamBrixTM Жыл бұрын

    I’m a staunch atheist but the history/philosophy and metaphorical mythology/stories of religion fascinates me. Cool channel so far mate. Keep it up.

  • @oldowl4290

    @oldowl4290

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm in the same boat but lean more towards being agnostic and take a "till proven otherwise" approach. What's funny for me though is out of all suspense / horror movies it's always the devil / demonic ones that frighten me the most. It's like this genetically ingrained thing along with the social conditioning and brainwashing we all get as children. So even though you don't believe in such things, it seems you still do in some respects. That or some people just make really believable devil movies lol.

  • @joebuck4496

    @joebuck4496

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oldowl4290 And now enters the 3rd poster with the 3rd viewpoint lol…I am a theist with leanings towards Christianity, with caveats that Biblical texts contain all of the same complications & difficulties as any other historical texts (I see the Bible as a sliding scale of difficulty levels all throughout). But I might enjoy the philosophical angle more. And between this and my strong belief in Philosophical Dualism it does bring with it a higher level of intrigue for those evil spirit type horror movies. Although not a horror movie, I really recommend Fallen with Denzel Washington!! Paranormal Witness was a show that gave me chills quite a few times. I just liked the first Paranormal Activity…if you know of any really good ones feel free to recommend them!

  • @oldowl4290

    @oldowl4290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joebuck4496 Check out .. The Pyramid. Khufu doesn’t mess around. I’ll leave it at that. :)

  • @CampingforCool41

    @CampingforCool41

    Жыл бұрын

    Tbh I don’t know how people can listen to how religion has warped and constantly changed over the centuries and blended with other religions, and come out still believing in a religion. It’s so clearly just created by people.

  • @lloyds7828

    @lloyds7828

    Жыл бұрын

    i was looking for an idication one way or the other so based on your comment the answer is no statan is not a living entity. thanks for saving me the time!

  • @stevenfuller6158
    @stevenfuller61586 ай бұрын

    I love how, in the book of Job (Jobe like “robe”), God and Satan speak to each other in a casual manner like “Hello Satan. What are you doing?” “Hello God. I’ve been around the world, walking here and there.” 😆 Wow. They really do sound like absolute enemies. 🤣

  • @SamuelBlack84

    @SamuelBlack84

    2 ай бұрын

    Both of them seem to be two sadistic kids with a magnifying glass over an ant hill

  • @Smokedbacon-ly4kk

    @Smokedbacon-ly4kk

    22 күн бұрын

    @@SamuelBlack84and getting bored of their ant hill and flooding it and letting every ant go thru horrible things all bc 1 ancient ant ate something it wasn’t supposed to

  • @jerryshunk7152

    @jerryshunk7152

    18 күн бұрын

    That is NOT a casual conversation I They are indeed enemies & JAH has a purpose in allowing Satan to exist for a time !

  • @jsnicks7189

    @jsnicks7189

    12 күн бұрын

    @@jerryshunk7152ahh yes justify suffering and evilness

  • @jerryshunk7152

    @jerryshunk7152

    12 күн бұрын

    @@jsnicks7189 That's what our human parents chose. Of course the ALMIGHTY, ( if HE so wills it,) can cause every bit of suffering & wickedness, that ANYONE has ever experienced to be completely forgotten, while allowing those that please HIM, to live Happily Forever ! BTW, GOD has given all the humans on this planet every Good thing they have ever enjoyed in their lives. GOD does NOT owe anybody anything & there is no negative attitude that can stand against the logic & reasonableness of that statement !

  • @antondelacruz9362
    @antondelacruz93622 жыл бұрын

    Dude, straight explanation without cute snark or sarcasm or any pandering to trendy politics? A message at the end to explain how to understand history vs empirical sciences? No fancy music or huge budget graphics? Subbed forever.

  • @madamsloth

    @madamsloth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @gratefulnomad6124

    @gratefulnomad6124

    2 жыл бұрын

    ^ This. This is really what most people want but content creators always think they need bells and whistles. All I need is smart, simple, neutral content

  • @bobsciascia

    @bobsciascia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same. This is excellent content.

  • @danielhart7435

    @danielhart7435

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like snark and sarcasm 😕

  • @towel1636

    @towel1636

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielhart7435 I like it in the right contexts, plus it can be confusing for some people.

  • @mendez704
    @mendez7043 жыл бұрын

    As Phd in History (and having within my interests issues related with the history and sociology of religion) I have to say I loved this video, and especially how you explain what it means to think historically. Great job. This video deserves to be used in the classroom.

  • @ReligionForBreakfast

    @ReligionForBreakfast

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of my resolutions for 2021 is to beef up the “takeaway” sections of my videos so they are not simple distributions of rote fact. Hence the extended methodological discussion at the end of my recent Aztec video.

  • @schwermetall666

    @schwermetall666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionForBreakfast I just want to stop by to say that I wholeheartedly support that decision. Teaching how historical research works and "what it actually does" has great importance if we want to teach history at all. I believe you have chosen your channel's trajectory... wisely

  • @ellengran6814

    @ellengran6814

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to add the question: Why did they invent Satan. Whom benefits from dividing the world into good and evil. The «warlords» ?

  • @TV---kn2rl

    @TV---kn2rl

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am reading these comments like the quotes on the back of a book to decide if I want to watch the video or not lol

  • @chrissonofpear1384

    @chrissonofpear1384

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ellengran6814 It was likely so that they could stop assigning evil to YHWH, as Amos 3:6 and Isaiah 45:7 somewhat did, I suppose.

  • @uuu12343
    @uuu12343 Жыл бұрын

    Came for religious stories and fun Stayed for a history lecture with absolutely enjoyable contents, and learnt something new Worth it

  • @d-x-d-x
    @d-x-d-x Жыл бұрын

    As a persian zoroastrian I've always thought of the similarities between Abrahamic religions and zoroastrianism. I thank you for making such an interesting video about this. Thank you

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺As a pagan enemy of the holy Islamic republic of Iran, like those American puppets who protest - you should be ashamed of yourself. No. Wrong, it was done very shallow and misleading. No, Jewish view of satan wasn't changed due to Zoroastrian influence, on the contrary, Zoroastrianism stole the concept and corrupted him in the pagan way, as all pagan religions did always! Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️ 🇷🇺❤🇮🇷

  • @sweetman5249

    @sweetman5249

    Жыл бұрын

    What is Zoroastrian? 😂

  • @Shahanshah101

    @Shahanshah101

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sweetman5249 Are you a clown?

  • @renren159

    @renren159

    Жыл бұрын

    Zor o a Strian.... è in lingua Ilire oggi albanese, ed è una parola composta...ma i ruffiani dell'assolutismo danno valore da...

  • @doomguy584

    @doomguy584

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sweetman5249 it's on Wikipedia check it out

  • @clemfandango6897
    @clemfandango68973 жыл бұрын

    As a person struggling with my beliefs, THANK YOU for these insightful videos. I'm on a spiritual journey, and I can't just accept everything like I did as a child in Sunday school. Following religion causes major life changes and I'm never blindly going to follow something bc it's what my parents\church taught me

  • @-Zer0Dark-

    @-Zer0Dark-

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know the struggle. I endured it almost a decade ago. Good luck to you. 🙂

  • @simonbennatan8257

    @simonbennatan8257

    3 жыл бұрын

    I highly recommend exploring different Eastern religions. Fun fact: the satan is something positive in Judaism created by G-d himself, which is why antisemites over the ages have accused Jews of devil worshipping.

  • @StallionFernando

    @StallionFernando

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@simonbennatan8257 wow that is so wrong, Judaism never sees the Devil as positive, Easter religions are some of the most demonic religions out there.

  • @maxinvasionleet

    @maxinvasionleet

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice...so you will believe a stranger who makes a video and reinforces your beliefs...LOL...read the bible

  • @ZombiesOnYourLawn66

    @ZombiesOnYourLawn66

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're in the same boat. Your soul truly does become unchained when you break free of fundamentalism (I'm assuming that is the kind of environment your Sunday school was).

  • @forkgod
    @forkgod3 жыл бұрын

    furiously taking notes for a D&D compaign.

  • @TheNorwog

    @TheNorwog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Roll for "craft mythology” DC 18

  • @jmarkbryce

    @jmarkbryce

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNorwog Pardon me, it's been awhile, but wouldn't you need a pretty high spell caster for that?

  • @TheNorwog

    @TheNorwog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jmarkbryce or a really imaginative bard good at deception and manipulation

  • @jmarkbryce

    @jmarkbryce

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNorwog That's a good idea. Like I said, it's been awhile.

  • @HeronMarkedBlade-ef7zz

    @HeronMarkedBlade-ef7zz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNorwog Pretty sure that's how real world religion gets started as well.

  • @mett_2004
    @mett_2004 Жыл бұрын

    I am Zoroastrian from Iran and your videos are so interesting 👌❤️ ASHEM VOHU...🙏✨🙏

  • @candicecausey4960

    @candicecausey4960

    2 ай бұрын

    Friends of the Jews, Bless you Zoroastrians Bless you and your Kings A thousand times over

  • @randomcarbonaccumulation6478
    @randomcarbonaccumulation64789 ай бұрын

    It makes SO MUCH SENSE that Satan was originally a lawyer

  • @davidroddick91
    @davidroddick913 жыл бұрын

    I like how your videos explain religion without ridiculing it, as so many others do.

  • @loweffortgaming2593

    @loweffortgaming2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or do they simply do so gracefully? 🤔

  • @orionishi6737

    @orionishi6737

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@loweffortgaming2593 Just let them wander on in ignorance.

  • @DanielLennon100

    @DanielLennon100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stucody and what do we get for doing that other than exhaustion?

  • @justinb864

    @justinb864

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stucody To be analyze and critique, yes. But ridicule accomplishes nothing.

  • @stucody

    @stucody

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justinb864 How have I ridiculed?

  • @blackbeerd
    @blackbeerd3 жыл бұрын

    im so glad I found this page, not directly denouncing or promoting any one religion but simply putting into fact the timeline and beliefs of each religion

  • @sleepystar6312

    @sleepystar6312

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except he uses a bunch of texts that aren't even in the bible.

  • @sleepystar6312

    @sleepystar6312

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially when charles darwin worshipped the devil, yet people fall in line with science. Not knowing that science means to know, which is exactly what satan gave adam and eve in the garden the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Also if it's fake then why do truly evil people worship satan? No other religion can make the boost that a large group of people worship the bad guy, just a thought. If you believe in the law you have to swear on the bible to prove your telling the truth.

  • @gerrydlr8659

    @gerrydlr8659

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sleepystar6312 about that last part, you swear on whatever holy book is a part of your religion. There's s funny clip of a guy on the news learning this fact.

  • @jeffsmith5787

    @jeffsmith5787

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sleepystar6312 My computer is a result of science. What's yours?

  • @sleepystar6312

    @sleepystar6312

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffsmith5787 Apple, is a play on words, the fruit of knowledgeof good and evil. It also has a bite out of it. They also sold their first computer for 666.66$. You bring a strawman, I'll give you a strawman.

  • @amandaburnham8626
    @amandaburnham8626 Жыл бұрын

    I was an Anthropology major and was taught a similar concept for cultural studies. The "Father of American Anthropology" Franz Boas also introduced a historical perspective of cultures focusing on how they change through time. It's also heavily influenced in Linguistics studies of how languages have changed and spread, influencing each other. Humans are incredibly complicated and yet fascinating how we might focus in on different things yet come to similar conclusions or analytical techniques.

  • @bacabourke
    @bacabourke Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and very scholarly. I'm going to view all your future casts. Very well-researched. I appreciate that you point out the limitations of what we can know and that you give your sources. So many well-intentioned '" historical documentaries" on KZread seem to assume that historical records are not contradictory, that the records they accept are totally accurate, and that there is only one possible interpretation of the data available.

  • @GusCraft460
    @GusCraft4603 жыл бұрын

    So the satan was what we might call the “devil’s advocate” So. Much. Irony.

  • @Lucifer-oj7rg

    @Lucifer-oj7rg

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s kinda my thing

  • @luciferfallenangel666

    @luciferfallenangel666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lucifer-oj7rg wow! Is this the beginning of 3 spiderman meme?👆

  • @GusCraft460

    @GusCraft460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@topsuperseven7910 do you not know what devil’s advocate means?

  • @GusCraft460

    @GusCraft460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@topsuperseven7910 ok, then let me rephrase it. You don’t know what devil’s advocate means. Go look it up. I’m not google.

  • @GusCraft460

    @GusCraft460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@topsuperseven7910 the devil’s advocate takes and defends contrarian positions that they don’t actually support as a way of checking against the worst case scenarios. So if “the adversary” were not an actual enemy of god, but just a devil’s advocate, then their purpose and actions still make sense. This character is called “the satan” which got misunderstood and became Satan AKA the devil. So the devil himself originally playing the devil’s advocate is ironic because that character evolved from just being a devil’s advocate into being the devil himself. That’s why it’s ironic.

  • @erimgard3128
    @erimgard31283 жыл бұрын

    Seeing as Isaiah calls Cyrus a Messiah, I have a feeling they were pretty cozy with Persia on religious topics lol

  • @erdood3235

    @erdood3235

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Вхламинго What's the irony here?

  • @diegotobaski9801

    @diegotobaski9801

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe you are failing to understand the distinction between an anointed one, and THE anointed one in the context of Jewish theology. Also, Nebuchadnezzar took Judah away in chains and the Jewish Bible still records him as being chosen by God.

  • @Boss_Isaac

    @Boss_Isaac

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diegotobaski9801 Chosen by YHWH to destroy Israel as punishment for having turned away from Him and failing to keep His commandments, yes.

  • @chrissonofpear1384

    @chrissonofpear1384

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Boss_Isaac And with Him knowing they'd do that, far ahead of time, and all...?

  • @Boss_Isaac

    @Boss_Isaac

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrissonofpear1384 Yes, if you adhere to the common interpretation of YHWH being an omniscient deity.

  • @dbentleyto95
    @dbentleyto9511 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this lesson. It serves to me to be a reminder to always ask questions, study, and learn our whole lifetime.

  • @0lyge0
    @0lyge0 Жыл бұрын

    The way you talk about contingency reminds me of the excellent James Burke series Connections where he explores how science evolves through building on previous advances that were themselves built on from even earlier advances and so on. This was an excellent video and I'll be checking out more of your content in the future.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield3 жыл бұрын

    Why yes I WILL have a slice of Star Trek with my religious discussion, thank you! 😀 😉

  • @bardmadsen6956

    @bardmadsen6956

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right, how could one past up The Omega Glory. Such a daring episode at that time.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield

    @MatthewCaunsfield

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bardmadsen6956 Right, I'd forgotten about that one! The most plot convenient Bible ever 😂

  • @bardmadsen6956

    @bardmadsen6956

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MatthewCaunsfield - I just searched again, I don't think people 'got it' so to say.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield

    @MatthewCaunsfield

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bardmadsen6956 you mean on this comments section? That's OK, it was just a passing comment amongst a wealth of fascinating info 👍

  • @kathryngeeslin9509

    @kathryngeeslin9509

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MatthewCaunsfield Comments that slip slide on by can be the most effective in altering thinking patterns. Star Trek and Twilight Zone excelled in this.

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD2 жыл бұрын

    Despite the mass confusion the internet is largely responsible for including the pernicious effect of algorithms this logical, educated, thoughtful analysis of satanic origins is provided for free and easily available to most. Thanks for all the hard work that led to this impressive examination.

  • @bojokowski

    @bojokowski

    Жыл бұрын

    That was a whole lotta nothin breh.

  • @halfpint5877

    @halfpint5877

    Жыл бұрын

    Big words and bad grammar, somethings off here

  • @Lucretia916

    @Lucretia916

    Жыл бұрын

    Reading this comment and seeing that the dude is subscribed to both Whoopi Goldberg and RT News is like a self-fulfilling prophecy

  • @JamesBrown-fd1nv

    @JamesBrown-fd1nv

    Жыл бұрын

    It is incorrect, the oldest mention of Satan by name is from the oldest book in the Bible, and it is not Genesis, and Moses didn't write it. Read Job and ask yourself if this is a concept or a person. Skip the pseudo-historical blathering and use your brain.

  • @redneckshaman3099

    @redneckshaman3099

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm addicted to pigger nussy 🤠

  • @AshishGupta-ld5bp
    @AshishGupta-ld5bp9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing those 5Cs which you learnt as a student of history. Very helpful

  • @mountainofgeese
    @mountainofgeese4 ай бұрын

    love so much that you shared the methodology behind navigating conversations on history

  • @aloevera3932
    @aloevera39323 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting. People perceive the devil differently depending on their culture. I'm Russian and the "red skin and pitchfork" image is quite unknown in our country. Well, maybe it is known but mostly from american movies. If demons are depicted, they're always coal-black , with horns and quite often - with a pig snout. Sometimes with bat wings, sometimes not. In our old icons however demons usually look black, with wings, clawed feet and without horns, but with their black hair standing up. Seriously. I've read that such depiction of their hair was used to convey their savage, wild and chaotic nature

  • @cleitonfelipe2092

    @cleitonfelipe2092

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here in Brazil I think most people have the image of Satan as being a half goat demon with big horns and stuff, no bat wings tho.

  • @davidcheater4239

    @davidcheater4239

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've seen that in the Igor Moisevitch Ballet video of "Night on Bald Mountain"

  • @Ebionarius

    @Ebionarius

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough, Ganon, the antagonistic character in the Zelda games, is often depicted as some kind of pig-demon. Wonder where that inspiration came from.

  • @andrewsuryali8540

    @andrewsuryali8540

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ebionarius That one's easy. Star Wars. Specifically, the Japanese RPG version of the orc was influenced by the Gamorreans in Star Wars, and Gannon's the boss of the "Blins" (goblinoids).

  • @Ebionarius

    @Ebionarius

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewsuryali8540 The Lord works in mysterious ways.

  • @cruise2954
    @cruise29543 жыл бұрын

    I thought the devil was the lawyer from Hell’s Kitchen who would sometimes team up with Spider-Man to take down the Kingpin.

  • @mistletoe3343

    @mistletoe3343

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here, wait! This new devil is blind too,right?

  • @frankensmurf3880

    @frankensmurf3880

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's all fake news. The Devil, last time I checked, was in fact the black panther disguised as the Devil. The Devil, meanwhile, was searching for his soul in a four part mini-gospel.

  • @leeroberts4850

    @leeroberts4850

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Kurapika Giovanna no we cannot

  • @theantisocialsociety7417

    @theantisocialsociety7417

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I love this community

  • @AnthonyDoesYouTube

    @AnthonyDoesYouTube

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm familiar with Hell's Kitchen but not this reference? They have a lawyer on the show???

  • @callahanstudio
    @callahanstudio Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Dr. Henry, for one of your most helpful online lectures I've yet come across. As a person who believes in God, I am constantly reminded (as well as reminding others) that religion is an irrational discipline that must be periodically subjected to rational processing in order to preserve its internal as well as external consistency. In this way it avoids self-contradiction and real-world irrelevance. This is how it continues to be viable for generations beyond its Bronze-age origins. If Christianity, in particular, is to survive, it must do more than dig its heels into a bedrock of orthodoxy. It must examine every question that arises through the discipline of humility (open-mindedness) and science (scholarship) as you do in your lectures in order to prevent it from lapsing into pathological thinking and uselessness. If God is admitted to this process - the Lord of science as well as of faith - true enlightenment may take place. For my part, I do not need a pre-existing and perpetual Devil to account for the presence of evil in this world. The default human condition of self-centeredness when not sublimated by justice and love is enough to account for it.

  • @b.a.r.c.l.a.y

    @b.a.r.c.l.a.y

    Жыл бұрын

    Very beautiful and well put together words

  • @marktwain5232

    @marktwain5232

    Жыл бұрын

    Very well said. You may find a Jungian level reading of Mirza Husayn Ali of Nur's (Baha'u'llah) 1861/1862 book the "Kitab-I-Iqan" helpful. The key factor right now in human history, it appears, is that we are in "World Age Passage Archetypal Eternal Return." The religions of the Age of Pisces are all dying. A different spiritual sensibility is now being born in the Age of Aquarius. Your excellent post here belongs to the now budding thought of the latter. I also recommend the 1969 Classic book "Hamlet's Mill" as a foundation for this World Age Passage Cosmological view in World History. The historical Zoroastrian Cosmological discussion was brilliantly put forth in the tremendous 2014 Season 1 of the HBO TV Series "True Detective". The study of Cosmological Zoroastrian thematic ideas in Film and Television these days is absolutely astounding! Once again, thank you so much for your extremely thoughtful post!

  • @Erin-bd6jg

    @Erin-bd6jg

    8 ай бұрын

    Very well-said.

  • @XmarcX92

    @XmarcX92

    7 ай бұрын

    All depends on which god you believe in.

  • @user-sg4ti3er6k

    @user-sg4ti3er6k

    3 ай бұрын

    What does irrational mean? In what way? In terms of faith? No, faith and disbelief do not belong to the dualism of rational and non-rational. This is a scientific myth

  • @justdriveon
    @justdriveon Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the intelligent, non-biased, reality based way in which you approach this subject. Thank you so much!

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺No. Wrong, it was done very shallow and misleading. "Non-biased"? lol. Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️

  • @ronald3419
    @ronald34193 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why it took me so long, but the realization hit me just a few years ago that demons are mentioned several times in the New Testament but never in the Old. Definitely a time lapse that needs to be explored to explain that. And yes, I was around the Charismatic/Pentecostal "demon behind every bush" mentaility for a time.

  • @theantagonist801

    @theantagonist801

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Bill Leonard imsorrywhat? Solomon *enslaved* demons?

  • @aristidesg11

    @aristidesg11

    3 жыл бұрын

    That old serpent is mentioned right from first book of the Bible; Genesis

  • @DragonRider-cx7br

    @DragonRider-cx7br

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Bill Leonard wow, what a mad lad lol

  • @pjevandenbussche3752

    @pjevandenbussche3752

    3 жыл бұрын

    The word 'shedim' occurs a couple of times in the OT, and is translated as 'demons'. The NT 'daimonion', or demon, obviously doesn't appear in the OT, since the OT wasn't written in greek. The word demon didn't appear before the greek language, which is why you'll find it a lot in the NT pertaining to entities which the OT dealt with as well, though you wouldn't find them when doing a Greco English search. Besides that, the NT has a simplified view of spiritual entities. The good ones are mostly simply called 'angels', and the bad ones 'demons' or 'fallen angels' at best, while angel is merely a kind of job description (mal'ak) and doesn't mean anything ontological (elohim would be the right word for all spiritual entities in that case, including angels). In the OT there are about 10 'kinds' of 'angelic' entities like the Ophanim and Cherubim (the entity Satan is called 'the covering cherub'), but I digress. Here's a paper by Heiser on the word demon in Deut. 32:17 digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1325&context=lts_fac_pubs

  • @MinisterRedPill

    @MinisterRedPill

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pjevandenbussche3752 don't waste your time. Let them die in their false knowledge. But ill take a look into this. I'm somewhat a fan of heisers work.

  • @mackenziel1266
    @mackenziel12663 жыл бұрын

    I still can't believe ManBearPig killed him so easily.

  • @NoName-fc3xe

    @NoName-fc3xe

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's pretty therial

  • @johncadden202

    @johncadden202

    3 жыл бұрын

    Never underestimate ManBearPig. 😱😱😱

  • @jlupus8804

    @jlupus8804

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh a lady of culture I see

  • @ansuz5903

    @ansuz5903

    2 жыл бұрын

    That makes ManBearPig the new Prince of Darkness, right?

  • @georgejob7544

    @georgejob7544

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read Political science, and yes I agree with the Hobbesian concept, we are all capable of absolute evil without a god figure or devil .... It's in us, even chimpanzees exhibit the force of evil and we are evolved from the same evolutionary line..... I wrote in essays when I was at study, humans are not sympathetic to each other but as Hobbes described, capable of selfishness and evil one to another to gain our own needs !

  • @all_i_see_is_stars4927
    @all_i_see_is_stars4927 Жыл бұрын

    Such a brilliant and informative episode, as are all that you publish. Thank you so much for this, as a religious studies student your channel is a wonderful resource

  • @michaelquebec6653
    @michaelquebec6653 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, especially the explanation of The Five C Framework when examining history. Thank you👍

  • @GreatArtExplained
    @GreatArtExplained3 жыл бұрын

    Just a brilliant explanation!

  • @Notdarksheep52

    @Notdarksheep52

    3 жыл бұрын

    just a gray person that needs very ke cat gino badge

  • @Notdarksheep52

    @Notdarksheep52

    3 жыл бұрын

    no ones second

  • @Notdarksheep52

    @Notdarksheep52

    3 жыл бұрын

    no ones 3rd

  • @Notdarksheep52

    @Notdarksheep52

    3 жыл бұрын

    no one 4th

  • @Notdarksheep52

    @Notdarksheep52

    3 жыл бұрын

    only 6th

  • @briannacluck5494
    @briannacluck54942 жыл бұрын

    The concept of "the satan" as an archetype in early text vs Satan as a being is really interesting. I guess a modern example of this kind of thing is the divide between people who interpret the antichrist to be some singular person vs those who frame being an antichrist as being a specific mindset or behavior.

  • @GODHATESADOPTION

    @GODHATESADOPTION

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bible clearly states multiples

  • @JaysonT1

    @JaysonT1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GODHATESADOPTION where?

  • @JaysonT1

    @JaysonT1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Cesar was the "antichrist".

  • @foxbutterfly-eden8715

    @foxbutterfly-eden8715

    2 жыл бұрын

    In 1 John chapter 2 it talks about “many antichrists”

  • @fiily1

    @fiily1

    Жыл бұрын

    Spirit of Anti-Christ, people against Christ, and the Antti-Christ figure in Daniel, and Revelations. So THE anti-christ will be a person, and is a mindset of non-believers of Jesus, and will be manifested in a system of control via currency, religion, and politics/policies.

  • @georgetait386
    @georgetait3862 ай бұрын

    I was expecting this video to be shrouded in theology and theodicy. But to see it grounded in archeology and history is fantastic.

  • @AndrewVelonis
    @AndrewVelonis Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation: scholarly, well-researched, comprehensible and succinct. More, please.

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺No. Wrong, it was done very shallow and misleading. Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️

  • @CherryScout
    @CherryScout3 жыл бұрын

    this is your reminder to watch the entire video before commenting!

  • @claudettes9697

    @claudettes9697

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the horrible habit of reading comments while listening.

  • @bigbossignition

    @bigbossignition

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always read the comments while videos are playing 🤦🏻‍♂️ it’s a horrible habit that I need to stop!

  • @gardenguster5271

    @gardenguster5271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bigbossignition same

  • @zachbos5108

    @zachbos5108

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or else Satan will get you?

  • @joneshugh

    @joneshugh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zachbos5108 No,PRIDE

  • @Verinius
    @Verinius2 жыл бұрын

    I like how disciplined and scholarly this channel approaches religious texts. It even tries to be neutral in its approach.

  • @LattenRangsbabydaddy

    @LattenRangsbabydaddy

    Жыл бұрын

    kyle kullinsky be like dat sometimes

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 Жыл бұрын

    I've watched this a few times now all the way through to understand it all. This packs a big punch in unraveling history!

  • @thetexadian
    @thetexadian Жыл бұрын

    Having studied the "Bible"in the original Hebrew I have, perhaps, a different view. I was taught that the word Shatan is related to the word Shala or sheta, both meaning "question" or "inquiry". Hashatan as written in Jobe, and other writings means adversary but in the context of "questioner". Thus hashatan was the role given to the individual who job is to question God's choices. As such it served as the Conscience of god.

  • @SamuelBlack84

    @SamuelBlack84

    2 ай бұрын

    Questioning is something religion generally doesn't like

  • @joshmcgill4639

    @joshmcgill4639

    6 күн бұрын

    Makes since

  • @timflatus
    @timflatus2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for presenting this complex topic in under 20 mins without sensationalism or pushing doctrine. That is a blessed relief

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺No. It was very shallow and misleading. Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️

  • @robertestes167
    @robertestes1672 жыл бұрын

    Don’t know how I stumbled upon this channel, but I sure am glad I did. Such interesting stuff. Being a historian myself, I love learning about the origins of religions throughout history. Thank you for everything you do, and thank you especially for using scholarly, non-biased sources!

  • @samueljames580
    @samueljames580 Жыл бұрын

    This is a very well informed and interesting video! I studied theology at uni when I was a Christian and still engage with it from time to time. I think that from my understanding of theology, the character of satan was realised by the church through the study of canon once completed. The same for various doctrines - there may not be an explicit statement about something but there can be an underlying theme throughout the texts which leads to a conclusion. I.E. satan is referred to as the deceiver (ex Genesis), the tormentor (job), the accuser (revelation) etc. and so it’s not surprising that when the church finally canonised the bible in roughly 4th century, they saw that there was a character who was constantly opposing God. Alongside anecdotal stories as well I assume. But I love the Zoroastrianism overlaps - there’s a theory the Magi who visited Jesus were Zoro bois too. Anyways, really enjoyed this!

  • @gillyobaggin
    @gillyobaggin3 жыл бұрын

    What always amazes me about you is your consistency. It’s incredible how informative, interesting and coherent each and every single video is.

  • @Khirad
    @Khirad3 жыл бұрын

    Ever since I became obsessed with Zoroastrianism twenty years ago and read my first Mary Boyce I've been trying to explain the likely influence of Achaemenid Persia. Heck, Cyrus is called the anointed. So, maybe that was coincidence too. But people hear me pull out a strange Z word and think I'm high or speak to crystals. Another, though more fanciful theory was R.C. Zaehner's Teaching of the Magi, where he noted the Saoshyant and the Messiah and... Bethlehem. He later recanted that I think, but fun thought experiment. Anyway thanks for making me not feel crazy. I truly believe there needs to be an intersection of Iranian Studies with those of the Levant focused on textual beliefs, etc.

  • @anthonykelly3175

    @anthonykelly3175

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nerd, you sound like the type of person who people avoid at a party

  • @qglow-5609

    @qglow-5609

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonykelly3175 how? He litterally just gave his opinion on something

  • @Mitchery

    @Mitchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@anthonykelly3175 Go back to your hentai, simp.

  • @painyt4878

    @painyt4878

    3 жыл бұрын

    dat "weird or strange calling after saying something completely new" concept again, welp

  • @painyt4878

    @painyt4878

    3 жыл бұрын

    cliche but sure

  • @clockworkthoughts7830
    @clockworkthoughts7830 Жыл бұрын

    I have seen that "Go to church or the devil will get you!" sign countless times! It is along a major highway in central Alabama.

  • @Vinny__212
    @Vinny__2126 ай бұрын

    Your explanation of contingency really fleshes out there difference between casual determinism and fatalism. Very engaging watch.

  • @Ratking45557
    @Ratking455573 жыл бұрын

    Keep making videos like these this is awesome I’ve always looked for a KZread channel that details the complexities of religions

  • @aaronw6070
    @aaronw60703 жыл бұрын

    That microscope clip at 14:50 was so funny considering how sincere you were being.

  • @bigbossignition

    @bigbossignition

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL I hadn’t even noticed 🤣

  • @PeppersnGlowworms

    @PeppersnGlowworms

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good, I wasn't sure if I saw that right! But it happened at 14:49 while at 15:00 it was already over...

  • @karezaalonso7110
    @karezaalonso7110 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all your efforts; I didn't know Persians we're so intertwined with various religions through history. Your presentation feels very unbiased. I really want to believe that it's the results of a cumulative review and synthesis, not based on few choices made from computer search results.

  • @fishaly
    @fishaly6 ай бұрын

    I really enjoy watching your videos. Thank you for all the breakdown! Fallen angel's origin story is very interesting to me. When you mentioned Asael and Raphael being connected, I was a little confused? Also, is there any indication of what "the fallen angel's" name was before the fall? In what way are texts referring to him?

  • @timothyhanner8118
    @timothyhanner8118 Жыл бұрын

    Sir, I have just discovered your channel. I am thoroughly impressed with its content. You take a very academic approach to subject matter few can discuss without emotion or an unwillingness to question. Thank you and keep up the good work!

  • @josephzammit8483

    @josephzammit8483

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4uf1sWQZcy4ZrA.html

  • @maiacorbin7879
    @maiacorbin78793 жыл бұрын

    You consistently produce really graceful framings of contentious topics.

  • @cecilia00960
    @cecilia00960 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou so much for the 5 C's recap. A pivotal paradigm which is never too much reminded. I'd like to add a few things. I just recently checked on encyc. I would'nt equalize semitic satan with diabolos, bc. I see in the greek word etymology a slightly but significant different nuance. Dia- ballo traslates as 'throw in between ' then a diabolos is more like an instigator, a fomenter of contention.

  • @ItzTooSik
    @ItzTooSik Жыл бұрын

    I was raised a Christian (& still profess to be one). My parents taught me that satan is someone expelled from heaven, etc. I’m currently trying to enrich my knowledge with truth & not tradition. My biggest fear is thinking that I will never find out the truth or, even worse, the “truth” I’ve been taught isn’t real or was lost in the past. I’m young & still learning. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE IN THIS VIDEO!!

  • @janschinkel

    @janschinkel

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats the beauty of it... You dont have to find THE truth, because its all connected

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺Well, i will explain to you the right and true Christian view. Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    @@janschinkel What?🤦‍♂️

  • @karlmiller4061

    @karlmiller4061

    Жыл бұрын

    God believed he created perfect people Satan disagrees Satan did not fall from heaven God gave the earth to Santa to prove God wrong, Satan is not evil we are Satan is the temptor we make the choice 👍

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karlmiller4061 Exactly! You understand the scripture, not like those Protestant heathens👏☦️🇷🇺

  • @rodento3220
    @rodento32202 жыл бұрын

    Thank you taking us on deep dives into such interesting topics without bias! Religion is a fascinating topic and it is nice to see it resented this way!

  • @isabely.6926
    @isabely.69263 жыл бұрын

    I don't have any deep comment on regards this topic, but I wanted to say that I honestly admire you. Please keep up the amazing work!

  • @sandflapjack

    @sandflapjack

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re gorgeous btw 😳💕

  • @BenjaminOommen

    @BenjaminOommen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @topgears7775
    @topgears777510 ай бұрын

    The Greek word _Diabolos_ which means "Devil" developed from the Persian word _Deava_ ,if there was the the latter "v" in greek language (which doesn't exist) the word in greek would be pronounced as "Diavolos" see the connection? _Deava_ ... _Diavol_ (-os: male designation) There is definitely a link between Zoroastrian concept of Devil and the Christian one.

  • @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite

    @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite

    8 ай бұрын

    Diabolos is a derivative of diaballo, which has a lot of possible meanings (to slander, divide, etc.).

  • @topgears7775

    @topgears7775

    8 ай бұрын

    interesting @@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite

  • @PhyrexJ

    @PhyrexJ

    2 ай бұрын

    How about ‘β’? Sounds basically the same

  • @serenazigante6990
    @serenazigante6990 Жыл бұрын

    I only recently discovered this channel. I am happy I did. Congratulations to you, you are brilliant. :)

  • @andiofski2653
    @andiofski26533 жыл бұрын

    With the advent of Internet and social media we can now learn and decide for ourselves what is man made and what is not. Keep an open mind and be curious. Thank you for putting this together.

  • @termsofusepolice

    @termsofusepolice

    3 жыл бұрын

    Believe it or not, before the internet people were able to do the same thing with libraries and book stores.

  • @orionishi6737

    @orionishi6737

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@termsofusepolice Not as quickly or as easily. You couldn't just check sources and verify them within minutes back then.

  • @spinakker14
    @spinakker143 жыл бұрын

    As an atheist, I absolutely support your approach: when discussing religion, I don't want to dismantle it, but rather I want to examine the historical and cultural context of beliefs The evolution of Jewish and Christian ideas are infinitely fascinating to me

  • @justingriffin2546

    @justingriffin2546

    3 жыл бұрын

    The controversy of zion by Douglass Reed...free online. Very interesting...

  • @justingriffin2546

    @justingriffin2546

    3 жыл бұрын

    The controversy of zion by Douglass Reed...free online. Very interesting...

  • @topologyrob

    @topologyrob

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beliefs are to religion as training wheels are to cycling.

  • @spinakker14

    @spinakker14

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@topologyrob I believe that the universe is governed by natural laws, therefore there's no space for any metaphysical force, or even free will. How about that?

  • @topologyrob

    @topologyrob

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spinakker14 Sounds pretty cool, though it's also rather a fundamentalist, dogmatic position I'd suggest, and one that many outgrow in time.

  • @neoshenlong
    @neoshenlong Жыл бұрын

    You just changed my reading of both the new testament and Job. Now, I remember some literature scholars suggesting Job might have elements that suggest it was actually a different story that was changed during medieval christian times and it's different form the original story, do you know anything about this? Amazing channel, been binging it all morning

  • @redneckshaman3099

    @redneckshaman3099

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm addicted to pigger nussy 🤠

  • @timbarnhart3121
    @timbarnhart31214 ай бұрын

    Thanks good reporting, really good 👍 you know the subject and present the material in way that most folks can follow and understand….

  • @hadara69
    @hadara693 жыл бұрын

    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." ~Lucius Annaeus Seneca

  • @hadara69

    @hadara69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Valare Beauchamp Brought out of exile to do so. You're point being...

  • @hadara69

    @hadara69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Valare Beauchamp Right. There's an "elder" as well. Sorry, I'm used to having to "defend" this thing and especially its modern implications... Though frankly, I'd wear it on a T-shirt if I could.

  • @nicksothep8472

    @nicksothep8472

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great quote, I probably expressed the same concept multiple times with a lot more words. Love good sinthesis 👍🏻

  • @davidagudelo2435

    @davidagudelo2435

    3 жыл бұрын

    And yet so many wise people regard religion as true, and many rulers have outlawed religion -except the cult of personality- and many common people think it's false nowday's.

  • @christopherwalker2097

    @christopherwalker2097

    3 жыл бұрын

    glad I'm not religious... I chose Jesus instead.

  • @markdpricemusic1574
    @markdpricemusic15742 жыл бұрын

    Admirable clarity of exposition and scholarly standards. Many thanks for this young Sir!

  • @nexusm191
    @nexusm1915 ай бұрын

    Informative! I've heard similar historical accounts of 'Valentine's day' stemming from the Persian 'Sepandarmazgan' day!

  • @everyday4play401
    @everyday4play401 Жыл бұрын

    In my religious studies at a Christian university I’ve been taught that the various demons, belial, asmodeus, Lucifer, etc. are all names for satan specifically but given to him by different cultures. So when a new pagan tribe was found whatever they called their god that was essentially just a name satan convinced them to use to worship him. I understood this to be a closed minded view to other religions immediately but for some reason I never batted an eye at the concept of multiple names for satan because it just made sense that the trickster would do something like that.

  • @sqmsh

    @sqmsh

    Жыл бұрын

    The whole concept is not found in the Bible. And when broken down, doesn't fit the thread of the text. Fallen angels really open up other issues about what creation is, what angels are, what the point of anything is at all really.

  • @faithlesshound5621

    @faithlesshound5621

    2 ай бұрын

    That's a very Roman, or Structuralist, way to look at other people's ideas. Your mythology has several named entities? They must be the Gods of Olympus. That's the head guy? He must be Jupiter (Zeus). Put him on the top level, alongside our emperor (or Donald Trump)! Who's this Satan guy? Ah, he must be Leon Trotsky, or Liu Shao-ch'i! When you draw lines like this, sometimes you get tied up in knots. Artemis, goddess of Ephesus, the Mother of Gods, whose arrow brought sudden death to women in childbirth? The Romans identified her with Diana, the Virgin Huntress. The Christians destroyed her image before the Council of Ephesus proclaimed the Virgin Mary to be the Mother of God.

  • @donaldknill9383

    @donaldknill9383

    2 ай бұрын

    Just remember that God Created (Every thing)in the Universe including Satan @@sqmsh

  • @sqmsh

    @sqmsh

    2 ай бұрын

    @@donaldknill9383 there's no Satan. It's just you and your own temptation

  • @SamuelBlack84

    @SamuelBlack84

    2 ай бұрын

    Satan is just an imaginary scapegoat to blame our own dark sides on without feeling guilty

  • @henrimourant9855
    @henrimourant98553 жыл бұрын

    One thing I would add to this is that apparently scholars of Zoroastrianism aren't sure how similar the religion of the Archaemenids was to what we know of as Zoroastrianism today so that would be another reason why it's hard to know how much influence the Persians had on Judaism.

  • @ReligionForBreakfast

    @ReligionForBreakfast

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, from my reading, it seems that the problem stems from the fact the extant Zoroastrian manuscripts are quite late, but the texts themselves probably date back much earlier. Achaemenid religion is thus murkier than we would like. But the cultural exchange seems to be extensive at least on a linguistic level as Achaemenid Persian loan words end up in Jewish texts (esp the DSS).

  • @brendansmith5529

    @brendansmith5529

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Spinoza, didn't know you were still active on KZread comment sections! How's Rieuwertsz doing?

  • @franciskai4155

    @franciskai4155

    3 жыл бұрын

    It looks like Zoroastrianism has affected Manichaeism, the religion St. Augustine originally believed in. There are two gods, Good and Evil, Light and Darkness. Now Quantum Computing is going to create a new religion: quantum is always two, particle and wave.

  • @VSM101

    @VSM101

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@franciskai4155 sorry but abrahamic religion isn't for the feature extract useful values discarded the insanity.

  • @GODHATESADOPTION

    @GODHATESADOPTION

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionForBreakfast its more like how much influence isralites had over persians

  • @reasonfirst4956
    @reasonfirst49563 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video. There is frustratingly little public information on the influences of Zoroastrianism on Judaism and by extension Christianity. While it seems fairly obvious to me that some key elements of Zoroastrianism made their way into Jewish eschatology this does not appear to be the mainstream scholarly view. I’m genuinely surprised by this and by the resulting lack of scholarly investigation into this topic.

  • @o80y1
    @o80y1 Жыл бұрын

    Saul Goodman vs Satan in the Albuquerque courthouse

  • @MoRoKeiFrOd

    @MoRoKeiFrOd

    Жыл бұрын

    Epic

  • @annepreciado4157
    @annepreciado4157 Жыл бұрын

    Good job on a convoluted topic!

  • @rickmcdonald1557
    @rickmcdonald15572 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are exceptional and I have learned so much as one of my hobbies is Ancient History and Religion and you deserve many more subscribers for all the work you do for our education so many thanks~!!! 👍✌

  • @alsyrriad
    @alsyrriad2 жыл бұрын

    As a follower of Yeshua, I love all of the valuable research that you are doing. It inspires me to search more for the truth regarding God. Thank you for all that you are doing! 🕊🙏🏾

  • @orionishi6737

    @orionishi6737

    2 жыл бұрын

    The truth is that men wrote it to control people.

  • @depair112

    @depair112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen! 🙏

  • @GODHATESADOPTION

    @GODHATESADOPTION

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@orionishi6737 no, it was written by apostles... thats just nonsense

  • @GODHATESADOPTION

    @GODHATESADOPTION

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Martyn Rogers its as good as it gets

  • @doodoo8310

    @doodoo8310

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GODHATESADOPTION apostles are men!

  • @cheryldeboissiere1851
    @cheryldeboissiere1851 Жыл бұрын

    Would like you to explore Greek conceptualization centering around Monad & Demiurge... or mention if you have explored it in another video...

  • @RussTShipp
    @RussTShipp7 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate you finishing this video with the 5 C's. I watch so many videos with these "matter-of-fact" statements about how such and such religion caused the doctrine of another religion. So ridiculous the level of hubris around these theories of history and religion out there. I appreciate your balanced, "just state the facts" attitude for people learning about these topics. I enjoy all your videos I see. Nice work.

  • @VanessaMendes
    @VanessaMendes2 жыл бұрын

    I discovered this channel this week because of the channel "Let's talk about religion". I already love this one too 🥰 Both channels are amazing. Thank you for this amazing content 🌷

  • @shazo9000
    @shazo90003 жыл бұрын

    Would you ever cover the similarities between the ancient Mesopotamian myth of Gilgamesh and Noah's flood from Abrahamic?

  • @richardbond258

    @richardbond258

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting. My understanding is that Abraham came from the area of Mesopotamia so that is why they are similar. But it would be interesting to see the reason why from a scholar on religion then from my own logic.

  • @stylicho

    @stylicho

    3 жыл бұрын

    The most interesting part is that supposedly the Epic of Gilgamesh was written before the Hebrew Bible. This really caused a stir amongst certain religions

  • @bobmorane5021

    @bobmorane5021

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stylicho i dont see the big fuss since its pretty much the same story

  • @stylicho

    @stylicho

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobmorane5021 Because it begs the question how the Sumerians apparently knew about the flood before the Hebrews did (or at least wrote about it before they did)

  • @suppiluiiuma5769

    @suppiluiiuma5769

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is a Vedic flood account as well. However it differs greatly.

  • @myogart
    @myogart Жыл бұрын

    very informative and intriguing. Great content.

  • @ant11368
    @ant113688 ай бұрын

    Not sure why this turned up in my stream, but it was fascinating. Thanks

  • @robertmeyer7836
    @robertmeyer78362 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for an open-minded discussion, based and interpreted on historical facts. I love your mind and your dedication to searching for truth. Reason in a time of much confusion and mistrust.

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    It is not. It was very shallow. You yourself can go reading and have a way better historical research and discussion than that... thing lol

  • @EasternOrthodox101

    @EasternOrthodox101

    Жыл бұрын

    🤺☦️🇷🇺Only Protestant heretics view Satan in a childish Zoroastrian way of the pagans. Orthodox Christians and Jews' concept of Satan is loyal to the old testament as mentioned in the book of Eyob: Satan is simply one of God's spirits who is in charge of all evil and sin, and his job is to test humans in their faith to God - by God's command and permition. He is not an enemy of God (that is an heretic view) - God HAS NO enemies or equals! Nor a fallen angel: 1. Fallen angels were the ancestor of the giant race called Nefilim, which has nothing to do with all of that 2. Angels CANNOT "rebel" against God, because they have no freedom of choice as humans have. If this video was a true serious study, it would have mentioned all of that, but of course it is done by a heathen so what can you expect lol🤷‍♂️

  • @kaletovhangar

    @kaletovhangar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EasternOrthodox101 Well sorry,for you can't really do too much under 20 minutes to explain things

  • @lenas6246

    @lenas6246

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EasternOrthodox101 "i did my own research" type of clown

  • @jean-paulstander7460
    @jean-paulstander74602 жыл бұрын

    Its refreshing to see someone who actually did their research and compared the writings.

  • @BrianSpurrier
    @BrianSpurrier6 ай бұрын

    There’s a decent chance the angel referencing Lucifer/dawn star/Venus could just be an astronomy reference. Because Venus is closer than Earth to the Sun, it can only ever be seen early in the morning right before sunrise or right after sunset, and people thought these were 2 separate objects for a while. The Dawn Star, or Lucifer, is visible early in the morning, shining bright in the heavens, almost ruling the sky. Until the sun rises, and overpowers it so heavily that it is not even visible. I do not have the actual evidence for this, but it is what I always assumed since I heard the story

  • @kaiserkabir
    @kaiserkabir2 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you for the five C's.

  • @willoanz
    @willoanz Жыл бұрын

    Remarkable lecture, so accurate and informed. So honest and down to the historical facts. Thanks for the excellent work offered.

  • @weezyfkitty
    @weezyfkitty2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched a lot of religious debates and KZread videos, this was FANTASTIC!

  • @Espiritista-Jenny
    @Espiritista-Jenny10 ай бұрын

    Very informative...I LOVE every part of your video..This is the first time Ive ever heard anyone speak with facts and knowledge!!!I've always been very interested in the true origin stories..like Lucifer...Satan..even Yaweh...

  • @KhaoticDeterminism
    @KhaoticDeterminism10 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Moon, for this beautiful message on this years New Moon in Gemini. 😊😊😊

  • @troyjardine5850
    @troyjardine58503 жыл бұрын

    I am honestly supprised you didn't mention Dante's "Inferno" and John Millton's "Paradise Lost", as those two works have had the most influnce on how people in the modern day view Satan.

  • @lunacurtis5444

    @lunacurtis5444

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would probably pair this video with one about the crusades and dark ages, and then Dante's etc., A final video about how the modern Popular Culture God And Satan is basically turning really Gnostic really fast

  • @rikospostmodernlife

    @rikospostmodernlife

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's no "inferno". It's Divina Comedìa.

  • @lunacurtis5444

    @lunacurtis5444

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rikospostmodernlife Divine Comedy in English)

  • @Ragnarok540
    @Ragnarok5402 жыл бұрын

    That 5 C framework deserves it's own video, it was enlightening that small summary.

  • @tasha3757
    @tasha3757 Жыл бұрын

    This is really helpful and informative 👏

  • @DanielL143
    @DanielL143 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation, making scholarly insights accessible and understandable to the non-expert. I'm now a subscriber. The part about the 5 Cs was particularly valuable. The evolution of human thought is dynamic, subject to random external influences and forms an network of ideas that represent the cultural and intellectual interaction of various peoples and individual leaders. My question is in regards to the Jewish captivity in Egypt. Were there Egyptian influences that shaped the fascinating notion of devils, Lucifer and Satan? Someday, perhaps a network of supercomputers that form the matrix in which the remnants of humanity will be preserved, may speak of the Trump and the Putin as the great liar and the great destroyer - LOL.

  • @joevaghn457
    @joevaghn45710 ай бұрын

    A huge problem I noticed is some of these old religions, and even the Abrahamic ones, use the word “dark” to mean “evil”-I think “dark” just means unknown or “unidentifiable in its constitution.” It doesn’t help that many people seem to think something along the lines of “darkness [of an evil god (“Satan”)] is the absence of light [of a good god (“God”)]” which is somewhat egregious, IMHO. This “light vs. darkness” thing gets taken to crazy heights, and forget that darkness is mysterious and you can’t see when in the absence of light, yet it doesn’t mean it’s anything inherently evil. It comes back to humans being afraid of the unknown. If you can live your life believing that the “spiritual unknown/darkness” is likely always that of demons or evil, and not have to think critically and lean on “trusted sources” for justification of these beliefs, then some people would absolutely live that way.

  • @SkinnerNoah
    @SkinnerNoah Жыл бұрын

    As a non-christian, I've always found the God and Satan dichotomy interesting. Satan is nefarious, but his actions tend to be relatively mild compared to evil entities in other religions, whereas God is good but holds jealousy and rage within him, just like how a good person sometimes feels bad emotions

  • @HardKore5250

    @HardKore5250

    Жыл бұрын

    Back then they had too much time on their hands.

  • @robertopics

    @robertopics

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HardKore5250 hardly any time on their hands.

  • @HardKore5250

    @HardKore5250

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertopics To create stories

  • @HardKore5250

    @HardKore5250

    Жыл бұрын

    duality

  • @HardKore5250

    @HardKore5250

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertopics What you mean?

  • @coreyrhymer89
    @coreyrhymer892 жыл бұрын

    You seem to have a way of explaining ideas and concepts to a normal person exploring the idea and concept of such an ambiguous and convoluted system of beliefs that actually makes sense. I have very little knowledge of the topic, however I respect the fact that you encourage people to consider the historical proof to determine what ultimately helps us reach a conclusion.

  • @terryg8516
    @terryg85163 ай бұрын

    One of the most freeing steps for me as a Christian was when I came to understand that "the devil & demons" were not literal beings bent on my eternal doom and misery. I came to this through the writings of Joseph Priestley, Hugh Farmer, Theophilus Lindsey, and other dissenting Unitarians and ministers of England during the 17th-19th centuries.

  • @godsees-5871

    @godsees-5871

    3 ай бұрын

    What are they?