What are Toxic Superfoods? A Deep Dive into Oxalates with Sally K. Norton, MPH
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We are excited to bring you this episode with Sally K. Norton, a leading expert on dietary oxalates and how they can affect our health.
Sally’s personal healing experience inspired years of research led to her book, Toxic Superfoods: How Oxalate Overload is Making You Sick-and How to Get Better which was released in January 2023 and is available everywhere books are sold.
In this conversation, we explore the hidden sources of oxalates, potential health conditions associated with high oxalate intake, and practical strategies for reducing oxalate intake while still maintaining a balanced diet.
So, stay tuned for an eye-opening conversation that will empower you to make informed decisions about your own health. We hope you enjoy this conversation!
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This is astounding. I was a smug 70 yr old flag waving eater of dandelion greens, spinach, chard, beet greens, daily nuts, Sally's whole☠bad list. Humbled and educated as of today. Remarkable how the entire medical profession has missed this. A transforming lesson and thank you very much!
@emmieking9910
8 ай бұрын
Anita, but were you sick after years of oxalate eating? You didn't say whether/if you gave up anything and what the result was.
@anitaitisanita8549
8 ай бұрын
@@emmieking9910No, I had no symptoms, I'm not sick. Yes I have given up the majority of the culprits she identifies, with the exception of tea. That I've cut back on that. No discernible results yet.
@ghostbird92
7 ай бұрын
Tell me about it. I was over here eating a whole foods, super "healthy", high oxalate diet and scolding my family members for not doing the same. So of course, I'm the one who ends up suffering the most.
@AbirTarafdar
6 ай бұрын
That’s an inspiring post. Good on you for acknowledging your learning. ❤️👍🏽
@jellybeanvinkler4878
6 ай бұрын
Lucky no negative results for you. I didn't wave any flags, but I did buy into the narrative and ate all my super foods daily. Little or no meat for years. Like Sally, I love my veg. I've ended up a mess! 😢 Giant kidney stones, parathyroid surgery, tooth removal, multiple breast cancer scares, vulvodynia. At 68, I think I am finally expelling the last bits of it. I do have an ocassional tea, and once in a while, nuts. I have a vegetarian friend who claims my microbiome should handle the oxalates. I told her,, not sure that applies to overdosing! But of course, there are the ones who would victim blame.
I had eaten dairy all of my childhood and into my early adult years, but when I started eating ''healthy'', I couldn't eat it anymore. So for decades I went without dairy. THEN I heard about Sally K Norton and cut out oxalates of from my diet and by 2 weeks I was able to eat dairy again. It was so strange, but I was in the grocery store and walking past the yogurt section, I stopped and stared at it. I was like, are you crazy!!! I don't want a gut ache....but I couldn't let the idea go....so I bought some whole fat organic yogurt and tried it that night, It worked! I was fine ! I was walking on clouds! I have been nom-noming on all dairy like crazy now! But one thing I found out the hard way....I bought some cream cheese, philadelphia brand, I took a big bite of some and a few moments later my gut was hurting like it used to when I was eating veges with oxalic acid. I looked on the package to find out what could be hurting me like that and one of the ingredients was carob bean gum. I looked it up only to find out that carob beans are high in oxalic acid. I was pissed!! Why are they putting this crap in our dairy!! Thankfully I found Tillamook brand ceam cheese and it doesn't give me that kind of stomach problems. But still, I'm not happy with the food industry.
@jellybeanvinkler4878
25 күн бұрын
I am old enough to remember when cream cheese was creamy. Really delicious and creamy. So many of these additives nowadays are ruining the quality and taste of our foods. 😢
@suew4609
23 күн бұрын
Yes, why are they putting additives in our dairy? It’s the same with heavy cream. You have to check the carton because some brands put junk in it that you definitely don’t want.
In the past when I was eating a high oxalate diet the optician would tell me I have ‘Blepharitis’ but this was just my normal eye state eating this toxin. Now my eyes are smooth with no bumps. They still release oxalate and get red if eat some to slow down dumping. I also have sandpaper stools as I dump oxalate from my digestive tract. They make me bleed sometimes. I’m 7 months carnivore/low carb. Thank you Sally for being an absolute HERO 😊
Low oxalate diet is saving my health! After years of under eating, vegetarian diets, and way too many raw veggies; I only eat the low oxalate ones and more animal products. My skin is clearer, bladder and bowels are calmer, and moods are starting to regulate. Can't wait to read Sally's book!
Thanks so much for this brilliant chat. I learnt so much. Been dealing with chronic gout for 26 years, at last a ray of hope!!!!
Hit it out of the park ! Excellent job having this in-depth discussion with Sally Norton, so many new nuggets. Here s one to share.
I never knew anything about oxalate toxicity until just YESTERDAY. I just ordered the book. Thank you Sally! There is a reason why my spinach didn't sprout in the garden. GOD was telling me something. My special concern is osteoporosis.
For me, it is, Just. Eat. Meat. I'm 75 and have been eating the Carnivore way for 18-months now. SO many health issues have improved. No more diabetes, arthritis, high blood pressure, brain fog, gum disease, and on and on. I did have eight-months of wicked hives all over my body from the oxalate dumping. Now all is good. Now I am convinced that I will never go back to eating those nasty vegetables ever again!
@suew4609
23 күн бұрын
That’s amazing that it took away your arthritis! How bad was your’s? I have arthritis in my hands, back, and knees. I can hardly walk for the pain. I pray mine will go away, too, along with several autoimmune diseases I’ve accumulated. I just got done with 2 years of a strange rash that the dermatologist’s couldn’t heal., I hope that doesn’t come back!
@panamafred1
23 күн бұрын
@@suew4609 My arthritis was very bad. I couldn't squat or kneel down. It hurt to walk, it hurt to grasp something in my hands. Couldn't put my arms over my head. I'm not a doctor and can't advise... I had a rash and hives, turned out to be oxalate toxicity. There is a ton of info on the carnivore way of eating on KZread. Watch "Anthony Chaffee MD Plants Are Trying To Kill You." Ken D Berry MD has a lot of videos worth watching. Good luck.
Thanks for all of this great info, Sally. I have discovered I have the oxalate dumping problem, thanks to Carnivore. I dove in too quickly and have been paying for it. I wish the Carnivore gurus would stress that oxalates could be a problem for people. The videos I listened to just mentioned it in passing. Now I have the info I need to heal. Also, when I had a sleeping study, I was told that I woke up over 300 times in the 5 1/2 hours I slept. It took me over 220 minutes to get into deep sleep. This has definitely affected my life!
I'm always learning something new from interviews with Sally. My body has been clearing oxalates for almost three years now.
@jellybeanvinkler4878
6 ай бұрын
Agree. Never miss a Sally interview!
@NexusAccess
6 ай бұрын
I dump since early 2019 on carnivore and had a severe dump 3 years in after I had physical therapy on my lower back. It stirred up a deposit in my lower back and lasted months to calm down.
@adamtousley
4 ай бұрын
Wow I’m only a year in
@sofiamiliaressis5403
4 ай бұрын
Anita l just started carnivore and l am dumping. It is an unbearable process and scary at the same time
@suew4609
24 күн бұрын
I’m 66. I may not live long enough to clear all of the oxalates I got eating “healthy!” Do you have feel good between dumping episodes?
Great video, great guest. Thank you. Just bought the book.
I enjoyed a plant based diet, grew much of my own organic veggies, ate a lot of beets, tops and bottoms and grains. Eventually my liver became toxic and I was diagnosed through blood work and an MRI. I'm 73 and have always been interested in nutrition but after my diagnosis I began to research other nutritional theory's which led me to eating a clean keto diet. I still ate veggies but low oxalate ones and no grains of course. Within 3 months I had a meeting with my gastroenterologist who said I was 50% better, then a year later my labs were normal. Interestingly my cholesterol was down, especially triglycerides.
I spent one week on carnivore food, only meat cheese- cottage ,cream of my own eggs from my Balbinas chicken and coffee with milk . I wipe off all food from my mind and I am happy to reduce my thinking about what I am going to have on my dinner plate. I can now spend more time playing piano or doing other creativity. I am Ok with my cats -they eating my meal or I am eating their meal It is fine . I am quite relieved from the kitchen . Thank You Sally and Thank You Dr Chaffee , Greetings from Poland . Sometimes I will have desert sour cucumbers or sour cabbage . Life is simple without ponzi stuff.
@suew4609
23 күн бұрын
That’s one of the good things about Carnivore, the choices are small, but it makes it easy to know what you’re going to eat. and, no more chopping vegs and fruit! I do miss a lot of my favorite foods, though.
this woman is a legend..completely changed my opinion on so called health foods..ok i went cold turkey on high oxalate foods and my pain vanished in just over a week and i feel best ive felt for a long time..no more dark chocolate,no more nuts and seeds,no more sweet potato,no more peanut butter and no more rhubarb for me..
The interviewer interrupted Sally far too often. She had the patience of an angel with him.😊
@Ann-pn9or
5 күн бұрын
yeah, I wanted to know how to reduce cataracts.
@KathyPianoHarp
5 күн бұрын
I wanted to hear more on cataracts, too! Perhaps what she mentioned near the end: in addition to a low oxalate diet, of course, to drink the juice of 1½ lemons twice a day (½ cup of juice total) might help safely clear up cataracts?
New Subscriber, am new to carnivore as of Apr 1st 2023 and so far, my blood pressure and blood work is now normal, have lost 69 pounds now to date which is Aug 19th, 2023. I had a gastric by-pass about 15 years ago which has caused many problems including amongst other problems ED for the last 10 years. LOVE carnivore and will till my last breath. Thanks for the vids!
@brockbrawn1524
5 ай бұрын
How did you not oxalate dump?
@sofiamiliaressis5403
4 ай бұрын
@@brockbrawn1524l would like to hear the answer to your question too.
I have leaky gut I’ve struggled with for years. This is pretty eye-opening to back off of the oxalates.
@sofiamiliaressis5403
4 ай бұрын
Leaky gut, colitis, gastritis, fibroids, blood in the stool, total hysterectomy, body aches & pains and hives. I am experiencing all the symptoms Sally did and it’s actually scary and terribly unpleasant! I went on an elimination diet 3 weeks, still on it with carnivore and this dumping is awful.
@suew4609
23 күн бұрын
@@sofiamiliaressis5403I started Carnivore w months ago. I got very painful diarrhea within 4 days. I had a terrible reaction to eating a few different foods on Easter, that I hadn’t had in weeks. I was laid up for a week. In the last few days, suddenly my arthritis got 10 times worse. My left knee, which was better than my right, now it hurts more than the right, and I can’t get up the stairs. I’m now adding a few oxalates back in to slow down this dumping. I think I’d die if I don’t!
I've watched a lot of Sally's interviews. This is one of the best, great info shared.
I am reading Sally Norton’s toxic superfoods. I recently transitioned from a low carb Mediterranean diet to a carnivore way of eating. I took two weeks to transition. I’m 76 and healthy with no known medical issues. In the last 5 weeks, I have had a few veggies - broccoli, avocado, sea weed, white rice, edamame. I do have random arthritic pains (my doc called it galloping arthritis which does have a technical name). Your book is scaring me. I don’t know if my old diet was high oxalate or not but now I’m worried that the clearing process could affect me many years from now.
@nataliajimenez1870
7 ай бұрын
Visit her website and you can check the list of foods that are high and low in oxalates. She recommends that people that are shifting from a high to a very low oxalate diet (which carnivore is) to keep a small amount of oxalates in their diet to slow down the body from dumping oxalates too fast. A cup of tea or of hot chocolate in the evenings (when most dumping occurs) is generally enough.
@charlenewilliams219
6 ай бұрын
@@nataliajimenez1870 Interesting. I haven’t watch the video yet, but I’ve read her book, watched other videos with her and other people. I wasn’t sure what was happening a few years ago. I did a 3 day water and I believe it was on day three water fast and I had to pee and it was excruciating painful my kidneys hurt the urine was almost brown in colour. It scared me so I broke the fast. just recently I did a five day fast with a tiny bit of juice type broth, once a day. I ended up a non Keto type rash but a rash. Now I’ve cut back more oxalate foods - strange hip pain- then bad intestinal cramps- when in bed. I got up ate about 2 oz- (maybe 70-80 g ) of cheddar cheese and one square if very dark chocolate. The cramps stopped almost immediately! During these last number of days, I felt a little bit itchy. My skin seem drier. I haven’t had dry skin like that - but I really cut back on those oxalate foods determined to get better. all I’m tired of the tartar on my teeth. Is it going to get worse? Will my teeth build up even more tartar?? Does anyone know as I get rid of the oxalate out of my body I’m doing these supplements along with it that are supposed to help absorb extra oxalate. Thus decrease dumping symptoms.
@user-kw8vh5yz8z
6 ай бұрын
I get headaches in the middle of the night. Could this be oxalate dumping after.even three years of being carnivore?
@charlenewilliams219
5 ай бұрын
@@user-kw8vh5yz8z maybe it’s dehydration?
@gypsyluv1118
5 ай бұрын
@@nataliajimenez1870Thanks! Hot chocolate here I come!!!
I am a new subscriber and I can’t stop listening and learning 🙏
@gypsyluv1118
5 ай бұрын
Me too! I've been down the oxalate rabbit 🐇 hole since November 17. This stuff is fascinating!
Wow! Sally, you sound like me. Thank you so very much for spreading this lifesaving information.
Awesome interview.. thank you so much. Great questions. Love Sally. She has a wealth of knowledge to share. I continue to learn how to heal myself with her guidance. 🤗💕
Mind blowing information!!
Excellent talk about nutrition! Ordering Sally Norton's book now.
Excellent interview. I learn more on every video. 🙏🙏
Great information ! 😇
7:45 to start learning about oxylates but I actually believe fluoride over the years is connected to all problems of unwanted hard substances (metals, aluminium, cateracts).
@y.g.1313
6 ай бұрын
Excellent point. We cannot blame 90% of toxicity on oxalates, while other poisons are still present in our environment, including heavy metals from industrial pollution. I stopped drinking fluoridated tap water years ago, stopped using fluoridated toothpaste.
@jellybeanvinkler4878
25 күн бұрын
Number one, we, at one time, would only eat high oxalate foods seasonally, giving our bodies time to clear. Secondly, with all these new reasons for metal toxicity, glyphosate poisoning, and other imbalances in our systems, leaky gut and microbiome disruptions have caused us to be less able to process the oxalates. Modern times are making us all a mess.
@jeanmearns7068
2 күн бұрын
Exactly fluoride is highly toxic my family only use a organic natural toothpaste
Is there anything out there that says oxalates effect your White Blood Count? Mine are very low along with my platelets. Many thanks!
@victorash4130
3 ай бұрын
Excellent question…..
How can 54:04 i find out more about oxalate dumping as it correlates with my monthly cycle? Im excited to. Get ahold of the new book! Thank you, great interview
Points to consider also should also include metabolic disorders, deydration of the body, dense blood, the body being in non-alkali state, bowel disorder invites all kinds of metabolic disorders, leading to high uric acid, non-alkali body contributes to formation of oxalates. PH of the body should not be less than 6.5 (urine test).
Sally, has anyone tested dandilion Root? I have so many questions about foods, but especially herbals. What about Berberine? Rhodiola and Astragulus, Ashwaraghanda, and algea like chlorrella? I have gone off a few things, but not sure what I should do with these. I Can testify that I have already begun to feel better, especially the fatigue!
@y.g.1313
6 ай бұрын
Hmm . I take rhodiola, chlorella as supplements. Good question.
Great interview. My body wisdom has revealed similar. Vit C hypothesis is interesting. All supplements are acidic and even toxic to some degree. Herbal medicine is key!
Could this be a cause for auto immune issues?
@susanitasandia5065
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@lmph5375
5 ай бұрын
Yes.
@gypsyluv1118
5 ай бұрын
Oh yes!
Mangoes are good to eat a lot of ?
My thyroid (T-4) is non existent. I was getting sick and used high dose of ascorbic Vit C. Combo of meat and veggies diet with sweet potato and fries occasionally. Developed eye floaters. Little REM sleep. Weight gain etc. switched to carnivore diet and have had eye sty’s and massive UTI/kidney infection this past week. Never had those. Slowly Sleeping better and now will cut out Vit C. Next is to tackle thyroid with iodine and b Vits. Such great info. TYSM.
Tbh everyone is different & this may apply so some & not others! Dr Berg has always been my go to Doctor!
@damiendegrasse8673
Ай бұрын
How does oxalate toxicity no apply to some people? "Everyone is different" only stretches so far when we are homo sapiens sapiens.
I have a bladder problem overactive bladde. I'm using the bathroom every 15 to 30 minutes a day
@megalou6567
3 ай бұрын
You may have Interstitial Cystitis . I do
What about yellow mustard with goat cheese ?
How useful is the oxalate blood test? Can you use it to see if Oxalates might be a problem with your diet?
HMM - Maybe this is what I have instead of IBD - I seem to have so many symptoms of what Sally is speaking of - I am really confused now
@charlenewilliams219
6 ай бұрын
We’re you eating a high oxalate diet? Even white potatoes are high.
@lmph5375
5 ай бұрын
Oxalate can cause many problems and gut problems are common.
I am doing great on carnivore as alot to heal, lyme, autoimmune hepititus, diabetes, I have now lost all the weight and am enjoying the way of eatting. The only thing I can not let go of is a handfull of sunflower seeds and a few low oxalate type nuts every other day or so!
Audio not great, have to have it up nearly to the max ! Then adverts come on SO loud😮
I am so confused. What about Forks Over Knives and plant based diets who have also healed people? The China Study? An intensive study on eating meat & cancer.
@google12greekmythsthatprove.
Ай бұрын
Dr Chaffee answers those very questions.
@barblacy619
28 күн бұрын
Meat DOES NOT cause cancer! See Dr Berry’s videos where he studies the studies like this one and as he uncovers the FLAWS and outright FRAUD in methodology and conclusions you begin to see how researchers FUNDED by food manufacturers are flooding research with erroneous information. Dr Berry can be trusted. He blows the lid off the Loma Linda myths including the Blue Zone study which cherry picked data.
Maybe it was her vegan diet that caused all those oxylates. If you eat in balance you won’t have the issues
I had been eating so many oxalates! They were basically my fave foods. I went almost overnight to a Carnivore way of Eating. Yup - must have been a lot of oxalate dumping! I tried to talk to a doctor about oxalates and got a perplexed stare. I cannot eat cucumbers! Or most vegetables and fruits. They show up in the toilet.
For those of us who were mostly eating bad stuff, like mostly take out, fast food, processed foods, will we not have that bad of oxalate dumping? I mean I guess the seed oils from fried foods, etc have implanted oxalates in me, but it almost sounds like the spinach and greens folks are who are hit pretty hard by the dumping.
@lauriemarie9420
3 ай бұрын
I wondered the very same thing myself! The french fries are a pretty big oxalate hit though. Life sure is interesting...never dull learning this very cool stuff from wonderful people like Sally and her host:))
@lindaakers6251
Ай бұрын
All potatoes are high in oxolates - not to mention all the seed oils they are usually cooked in.
Oxalates can break down to carbon monoxide when heated
@lmph5375
5 ай бұрын
Oxalates are not degraded by cooking. You can remove some soluble oxalate from food by boiling and discarding the water.
does white rice have Oxalates, ?
@hughmanetti1908
6 ай бұрын
You can simply ask Google, “Is ______ high in oxalates?” Sometimes they lie so read a few of the results. Sally’s website has a good list, I believe.
@lmph5375
5 ай бұрын
White rice is lower oxalate. Most oxalate in rice is from the bran. So brown rice is higher in oxalate.
How about people who are vegetarian and have oxalates??
@christinelloyd-kg9ow
12 күн бұрын
I am 79 vegetarian and walk miles of necessity eat raw beetroot green veg and do not smoke strange that i dont have arthritis or any age related ailments😂
Been taking green vibrance everyday and 2g of Vitamin C… 😮😮😮
Dehydrated from alcohol a problem while eating oxolates
@gypsyluv1118
5 ай бұрын
This is not a complete sentence.
I'm carnivore for 10 months now and still oxalate dumping. Face and neck rash. Occassionaly diarrehea and joint pain and inflammation....
@SofieLove
4 ай бұрын
Are you taking any herbs for the inflammation?
@adamtousley
4 ай бұрын
Thanks Sofie. I’ve tried a number of things and nothing really helps until it stops
@sofiamiliaressis5403
4 ай бұрын
Hi Adam, l’ve only been on a elimination carnivore diet 3 wks and l am experiencing dumping awfulness. You are still getting the symptoms for so long and l worry about having these dreadful symptoms l am experiencing.
@SimplySunrider
4 ай бұрын
Ice packs stop my ox rash within 5 min. So I have several sizes in freezer. Even a hot water bottle wit cold water helps. My daughter picked me up some homeopathic for rash...experimenting with that.
Just to add to your confusion I had dinner with a couple last night (in their 50's I would guess) who were some of the most energetic full of life people I've ever run into. I'm talking about people who went up on a mountain and built a large house with their bare hands. They professed to be vegetarians (except dairy) and were scarfing down sweet potatoes, beets, and pasta with tomato sauce like they hadn't eaten in a month. Number two get real. "Health" in America is on a decending slope but do you really think that Americans are eating too much spinach? What percentage of the population eats chard and beet greens ever? I've looked through the book and respectfully feel that it is dubious.
pls dont be lazy and get some timestamps....
Oh yeah and weepy eyes and nose
are there global studies ? The U.S. is more of a melting pot like no other country,so curious as how much race ,genetics can play apart in dietary issues .
This is insane
This is heavy
Jesus christ what next humans can only eat air biscuits and only drink spring water from a top kilimanjaro smh
@abc33944
4 ай бұрын
She’s better off telling us just what’s safe to eat ..
@lauriemarie9420
3 ай бұрын
She does a great job of doing that in her book...it's amazing!@@abc33944
Was it her Botox or her diet that gave her disease?
What about Candida? Yeast? Vaginal yeast? Body aches all over my whole body? I want to sleep around the clock it seems. i used to be in excellent shape! I need to get well. Is this part of oxalate diet? I wake up every morning between 3:00 am and 5:30 am. My sleep has been so bad. Please give me some insight and if you have these experiences too.? Thank you.🥲