USS Discovery Concept & Design Star Trek

Here's the concept & design of the NCC-1031 USS Discovery from Star Trek Discovery.
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USS Discovery Concept & Design Star Trek NCC-1031
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USS Discovery Concept & Design Star Trek NCC-1031

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  • @andrewbarragan3626
    @andrewbarragan36265 жыл бұрын

    The final version of the Discovery actually does have Starfleet hull livery. It's located on the outboard sides of the warp nacelles and was inspired by the design seen in TNG.

  • @Nick-kz6dg
    @Nick-kz6dg4 жыл бұрын

    I kind of wish the Discovery (and the Glenn) had an NX registry. It would've fit nicely with the highly experimental nature of the spore drive

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    3 жыл бұрын

    In this case, they may have avoided the experimental registry to help hide it. With a normal registry number, it would appear in paperwork to be just a normal craft, rather then a highly experimental ship.

  • @jimskywaker4345

    @jimskywaker4345

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@keirfarnum6811 but it was unknown to most people that the discovery even existed

  • @mike197714

    @mike197714

    2 ай бұрын

    Well Discovery starship was one of the original designs for the Constitution class Enterprise. But it was shelved. When Gene died Ms Roddenberry. Had it in there will The there exec was to inherit Star Trek&Paramount. Which is smart. He came across 1/2 done shows like Contact. Then TV series Enterprise, Voy, DS9, Discovery. But Picard is just a continuation of TNG,VOY&DS9. Frankly, I’ve seen some of the TV series. It feels awkward. Not uncomfortable/afront to sexuality&etc. 👇🏻👉🏻way out of left field: Star Wars is good against evil w/ good&bad space wizards evil empire army against a smaller military ragtag group. There r no death stars in Star Trek. Star Wars rides the coat tails of Star Trek. 👈🏻👆🏻.

  • @understatedwalrus
    @understatedwalrus5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty rude to not even leave a link for that used mattress

  • @DanteYewToob

    @DanteYewToob

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know. I was very interested in buying it until I saw those nasty stains! They don't even match the blood stains on my nice shredded mismatched curtains! How awful. My crack den will look like absolute garbage now! I'm sure I'll find a nice rug with feces or blood stains that I like... everyone knows the rug really ties the room together.

  • @gabevee3
    @gabevee35 жыл бұрын

    I would think the sphere is a nod to one of Matt Jeffries' early TOS Enterprise designs, now accepted as the Daedalus class. ;-)

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated

    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated

    5 жыл бұрын

    Which was also of course paid tribute to by Dr. Crusher's super cool future medical ship! I love the Pasteur.

  • @dalemsilas8425
    @dalemsilas84255 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. I really like how the discovery is blocked out in basic shapes. Circle, Rectangle, Triangle. Simplicity in elegance. Never knew hard lines could look good on a ship.

  • @dalemsilas8425

    @dalemsilas8425

    5 жыл бұрын

    @MonkeyZorr: shut up, fool.

  • @uadhlagash7280

    @uadhlagash7280

    5 жыл бұрын

    @MonkeyZorr "There is NO elegance in that design" your mind isn't elegant enough to comprehend it. There is an abstract geometric elegance to its austere minimalism. This sits up there just below the E for me. The D is still by far the best ship in my view, of course. You hate the show, and by extension the ship. It's all subjective.

  • @SciFiFan2012
    @SciFiFan20125 жыл бұрын

    It was so satisfying when playing ST Timelines, I destroyed Discovery with the ISS Enterprise.

  • @domiv766

    @domiv766

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh, Fuck You long live Federation

  • @stefanpalicki3538

    @stefanpalicki3538

    4 жыл бұрын

    Long live the empire!

  • @ExUSSailor

    @ExUSSailor

    4 жыл бұрын

    It must have felt great to destroy this hunk of garbage!

  • @beh.r_co-mando.1374

    @beh.r_co-mando.1374

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@domiv766 Lol, destroying the Discovery as any faction should bring one great joy.

  • @Davanthall
    @Davanthall5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t care for the design of Discovery, BUT the version of the Enterprise that showed up at the end of DIS season 2 is probably my absolute favorite design for Enterprise I’ve ever seen. It’s so sleek yet sturdy looking, and I LOVE how the pylons are super angled backward, but not too flattened down. The drive section has the nice barrel shape, the nacelles are intimidating but not stupidly over sized like in the reboot movies, ah I just love that Enterprise so much! Take that model and replace it’s saucer section with the almost cruise ship like looking saucer section if Enterprise D and you got my dream ship right there.

  • @alegsb3943

    @alegsb3943

    10 ай бұрын

    My favorite thing about the new enterprise is that it looks EXACTLY like what I would imagine a successor to the NX01 to look like. The nacelles look just like an evolved version of the nx01, and even the swept back nacelle pylons. Once you look at the full lineage of enterprises, the og looks very out of place (of course by no fault of its own, it was the first) but now we know the nx01 came before it the new one is just superb

  • @DetroitBORG
    @DetroitBORG5 жыл бұрын

    Love this channel! Thanks for making these!

  • @JunkBallMedia

    @JunkBallMedia

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I just watched your Apple Leather Case unboxing review the other day. I appreciate your solid work.

  • @Athonite
    @Athonite5 жыл бұрын

    We need a discovery pizza cutter.

  • @leonkernan

    @leonkernan

    5 жыл бұрын

    But cheese will get stuck in the gaps

  • @braveintofuture

    @braveintofuture

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd buy one

  • @ronnielenroberts6136

    @ronnielenroberts6136

    5 жыл бұрын

    More like fidget spinner.

  • @braveintofuture

    @braveintofuture

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Herbert N right but the Discovery pizza cutter could be very true to the original.

  • @rebeccaedwards3784

    @rebeccaedwards3784

    5 жыл бұрын

    Herbert Totally agree with you. I'm guessing trekking don't really do new material though, judging by their hangups on something made 30 / 50 years ago! 😁

  • @themercer4972
    @themercer49725 жыл бұрын

    I knew I had seen the sketch for that damn ship, when I was a kid it was a concept for the new Enterprise before the first film was made. Some people did not believe me when I said "Discovery is just a recycled idea from the late 1970s."

  • @orencio1969

    @orencio1969

    3 жыл бұрын

    The making of Star Trek, the book

  • @daftryosuke8541
    @daftryosuke85415 жыл бұрын

    Junkball Media, keeping the audience vague as to whether or not he actually likes Discovery since 2017, probably.

  • @GameSack

    @GameSack

    5 жыл бұрын

    The vibe I get is that he's disappointed in a lot of aspects about it, but he'll keep watching it as long as it exists. That's how I feel about it. A lot of times I'm like "WTF?! Just... no!!" but the stories are watchable even if they're not really all that... Trek. I started showing Discovery to someone recently and she just could not get past those "Klingons" and made me stop the first episode like 5 or 10 minutes in.

  • @robinvan1983

    @robinvan1983

    5 жыл бұрын

    How is your life enriched by that kind of information? he does info on ship design

  • @jokerzwild00

    @jokerzwild00

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@GameSack I feel the same way. If I'm being honest with myself, it's a modern day Trek and that's really enough to make me watch it. If anything out of curiosity. There are some good bits in there, even if the whole thing was mostly disappointing overall. I just can't get past the fact that, in my opinion, it would have worked much better being set post Voyager. It would have taken just a few storyline tweaks, the visuals would mostly have fit. I think everyone would have been much more forgiving of it if that were the case. For some reason though CBS and Paramount seem to think that TOS era is the only thing people care about (or the only thing that will make money). Now they've even pulled the Spock card for next season! At least they seem to be coming around though with the Picard series. It could very well turn out to be garbage but at least we get to see Patrick Stewart in the role again. I don't think his presence alone can save it if it's bad though, see: what Disney did to Luke Skywalker. Here's hoping everything turns out great though!

  • @JunkBallMedia

    @JunkBallMedia

    5 жыл бұрын

    At the moment, thumbs down. Tedious build up, then awful payoff. I'll keep watching because I see two possible outcomes. 1. The show may redeem itself. 2. Season Two will be a train wreck that I can't turn my eyes away from.

  • @SciFiFan2012

    @SciFiFan2012

    5 жыл бұрын

    Junkball Media I’m comforted some folks will hate watch it and summarize the episodes online.

  • @ToumalRakesh
    @ToumalRakesh5 жыл бұрын

    "I have no idea how I'm gonna end this video." Just like the producers of STD.

  • @GameSack
    @GameSack5 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you put that part in about only the surface spinning. That makes it seem less ridiculous. But I swear I've seen the hull to a loopy-loop kind of thing where the inner and outer saucer section spin on an axis that would run from front to back. Did I imagine this or does the ship really do that? God I hated that.

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Game Sack It does that likely as an optical effect of the drive, just like warp drive traditionally distorts the ships appearance in several ways. The original warp effect was of the Enterprise slowly fading away, while the most familiar effect is the longitudinal pointed distortion seen in TNG DS9 VGR and the later films. It might help to consider those effects as non diegetic as they seem to change often until the start of TNG and for no more reason than the producers wanting to try something different.

  • @dreadnought-ai

    @dreadnought-ai

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty your referring to the “spore flip” but idk.

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dreadnought AI That’s what I think. The DISCO seems to do warp drive pretty conventionally. Though if people REALLY want DSC to be era correct they should complain about that also because the Enterprise in The Cage had its very own unique warp effect! I just had a thought🤭 what is the spore drive is actually kept for a while! Like all the way until the end of the TOS films? We would then have a legit answer for how the TOS ships could traverse the galaxy like nothing then TNG came along with some crazy speed limits. I mean, according to current trek canon Kirk and friends should just now be getting back from visiting god at the center of the galaxy lol.

  • @braveintofuture

    @braveintofuture

    5 жыл бұрын

    If just the surface is spinning but the interior isn't, that what's it good for? Should that scare klingons away?

  • @dreadnought-ai

    @dreadnought-ai

    5 жыл бұрын

    3Hification - presumably there's some tech relevant to the spore drive in those surfaces. Far more appropriate than the entire Rings spinning, as It would suggest either the entire saucer section is taken up by spore Drive Tech, or a load of unnecessary living quarters, science labs, and recreational facilities are pointlessly being taken along for the Ride.

  • @jamcdani
    @jamcdani5 жыл бұрын

    Wait, I can buy Junkball’s used mattress?!? Shut up and take my money! This is the only channel I actually get excited about when I see a new video post.

  • @operator8014

    @operator8014

    5 жыл бұрын

    Careful. Lots of unruly vaginas have been conquered on it. Take pictures before you break the candy coating. For authenticity.

  • @jaytealstone1687
    @jaytealstone16875 жыл бұрын

    Unpopular Opinion: Star Trek Discovery is a good show

  • @thegalli
    @thegalli5 жыл бұрын

    Captain, incoming hail on a priority channel.... It's JUNKBALL, Sir!

  • @colinantink9094

    @colinantink9094

    5 жыл бұрын

    EMERGANCY POWER TO THE VIEWSCREEN NOW!!!!

  • @resurrectedstarships

    @resurrectedstarships

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@colinantink9094 This mmessage is 3 days old! Maximum warp to play button...FLY HER APART!!!

  • @matthewakian2
    @matthewakian23 жыл бұрын

    This videos are actually therapy. Just the thing you need in lockdown.

  • @RoySchl
    @RoySchl5 жыл бұрын

    did the designer have a few strokes between all the nice looking ships he did and this one?

  • @steffenbach3580

    @steffenbach3580

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Eaves worked with what was given to him: a bad sketch from the otherwise incredibly talented Ralph McQuarrie. I bet if Producer Fuller didn't force him to use this as a starting point Eaves would've delivered another great ST ship. His Enterprise-E is nearly perfect in every way and its sad to see what he had to design for Discovery.

  • @CypressConroy

    @CypressConroy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it would look better with a larger saucer section

  • @Mark-uk8wz
    @Mark-uk8wz5 жыл бұрын

    If the discovery went into atmosphere it would immediately tear apart

  • @TNA-Aylin

    @TNA-Aylin

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s true of most Star Trek ships

  • @stevenmacdonald9619

    @stevenmacdonald9619

    3 жыл бұрын

    STD Series 3 Episode 1.... It did, and no it didn't tear apart

  • @KertaDrake
    @KertaDrake Жыл бұрын

    Regardless of anything else, this design had an epic journey to finally see the light of day!

  • @JohnVance
    @JohnVance5 жыл бұрын

    I would seriously watch you do a deep dive into just about any topic. I like your super laid-back yet informative style.

  • @thunderrobots1980s
    @thunderrobots1980s5 жыл бұрын

    all the early concept designs are better then the finished look

  • @Cannikin
    @Cannikin5 жыл бұрын

    Minor inaccuracy: Discovery does have the Starfleet pendant on the forward/outboard panel of the engine nacelles. It isn't easy to spot.

  • @Shadowkey392
    @Shadowkey3925 жыл бұрын

    1:12 actually it wasn’t Ralph McQuarrie who created that concept art, it was simply found in one of his folders. The name of the guy who actually did it eludes me, but there was a note in the folder identifying him as the artist.

  • @MrPolskaXboxNL
    @MrPolskaXboxNL5 жыл бұрын

    Just love the way this guy makes this kind of video's.

  • @ShadowAxon
    @ShadowAxon5 жыл бұрын

    I played that star trek game. When it came out it was a huge glitchy mess.

  • @jwjones1979

    @jwjones1979

    4 жыл бұрын

    So, just like Legacy. Which sits on my shelf, unplayed since the week after I bought it on opening week.

  • @kenetickups6146

    @kenetickups6146

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joshua Jones legacy is a guilty pleasure of mine it's glitched to all shit, but it's still cool flying the ships

  • @SDFprowler
    @SDFprowler5 жыл бұрын

    "so that's the video" I love it

  • @Tricky117
    @Tricky1175 жыл бұрын

    So glad you're back to the videos! Genuinely missed your chat and sense of humour

  • @jordansean18
    @jordansean185 жыл бұрын

    I've missed you!! Always love your, ..,well, your stuff!

  • @earth2bob
    @earth2bob5 жыл бұрын

    Woooo! Love it, can't wait for another video!

  • @milou66
    @milou6627 күн бұрын

    I would probably watch this channel just for your voice and the music, so the Star Trek is a bonus!

  • @BlueBoxRevan
    @BlueBoxRevan4 жыл бұрын

    Junkball your videos are extremely well done, and I love your comedy. The 80s style really does keep my attention in the way use it as your theme. Awesome content and great job remaining impartial

  • @DougZbikowski
    @DougZbikowski5 жыл бұрын

    Discovery is the first ship in Star Trek that made me go "Ewwww..." It looks like they spent 10 minutes making it with a ruler.

  • @jamestheotherone742

    @jamestheotherone742

    4 жыл бұрын

    No they painstakingly designed it to piss ST fans off.

  • @lastxflfan420

    @lastxflfan420

    4 жыл бұрын

    It worked!

  • @jamestheotherone742

    @jamestheotherone742

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Tildin Han It grew on me after 'while. But yeah, it should have looked less "advanced" than TOS Enterprise and other ships, not more, both from a continuity perspective and the story arc that the humans were the upstart underdogs.

  • @benn454

    @benn454

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Tildin Han You mean the Akira class with the flipped nacelles?

  • @axenledgie1423

    @axenledgie1423

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its still hard to believe John Eaves betrayed us like this

  • @L00PdeL00P
    @L00PdeL00P5 жыл бұрын

    the plane was giving me big fireflash vibes

  • @jordankusabs1784
    @jordankusabs17845 жыл бұрын

    Always love your uploads!

  • @luschmiedt1071
    @luschmiedt10715 жыл бұрын

    yes yes yes i am hyped for every new Video from Junkball Media

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video as always!

  • @krim7
    @krim75 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting all week for this!

  • @cernstormrunner7263
    @cernstormrunner7263 Жыл бұрын

    5:47 i kinda like this version better than the final one. My head canon is this is a stock Crossfield, the final version is the Spore-drive refit.

  • @milou66
    @milou6627 күн бұрын

    I confess when it first appeared, I thought some fan had made a fake trailer, and I hated it. But now I quite like it.

  • @Shatterer101
    @Shatterer1015 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual buddy! Looking forwards for the one about the ship´s final design! Cheers.

  • @JohnSmith-sk7cg
    @JohnSmith-sk7cg5 жыл бұрын

    The bit at 0:41 was pure gold.

  • @ZTAudio
    @ZTAudio4 жыл бұрын

    The “Edsel” of starships. It’s like bad fanfic designs that 8th graders did in the 70s. The difference is those 8th graders knew there designs weren’t any good.

  • @hpal1497
    @hpal14974 жыл бұрын

    cant believe i just discovered your channel! i love your style of videos

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield5 жыл бұрын

    A deeper look at the creative process is always worthwhile. In your channel's case, doubly so! :-)

  • @thomasboisse605
    @thomasboisse6055 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting Video. Thanks for this :)

  • @SovsBorg
    @SovsBorg5 жыл бұрын

    I gave YOU a thumbs-up......NOT the ship.

  • @Persian-Immortal

    @Persian-Immortal

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here!!!

  • @rosalinacv1996

    @rosalinacv1996

    5 жыл бұрын

    SovsBorg Did you win something?

  • @OOTurok

    @OOTurok

    5 жыл бұрын

    The USS Shenzhou is a really nice design. I wish the show was about Capt. Georgiou & her ship. But no, they kill her off & destroy her ship in favor of the Fugly Discovery & a guy trying too hard to be a Capt. Kirk.

  • @mitchjones7403

    @mitchjones7403

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@OOTurokYou obviously haven't seen season two.

  • @vladimirmedel2843
    @vladimirmedel28435 жыл бұрын

    Great Video!

  • @ncspacemonkey
    @ncspacemonkey3 жыл бұрын

    Off topic, but I just want to say I love your use of the F13 III theme for your videos. I've always loved that beat and I think it fits so well here.

  • @wafflesnfalafel1
    @wafflesnfalafel15 жыл бұрын

    wonderful - never knew the Valkyrie and Crossfield connections

  • @boydmerriman
    @boydmerriman5 жыл бұрын

    It is fascinating how they took a design the fans HATED and then said "Lets improve on that design and keep it going!" And that is how they wrote the story.

  • @Mitsukara
    @Mitsukara5 жыл бұрын

    I really like your videos! Your attention to detail is informative and entertaining, and you have some good humor (I especially love the Marsh Melon episode). Is there any chance you might do future videos about various shuttlecraft, like the Type 7 and it's various onscreen changes (and it's more ufo-like concept art, and failed attempts to make a full-scale version), the type 6 and it's rebuild from the Star Trek V shuttle and later it's other rebuild into the type 8 and then that random one-off ship in Voyager, the little lower-budget Type 15 Shuttlepod, and so on? Those would be awesome to see.

  • @itisthomascasey
    @itisthomascasey5 жыл бұрын

    On hull livery: There are deltas and stripes on the nacelles, but they’re painted silver and tend to blend in to the rest of the hull when photographed. There is also a delta and stripe on Discovery’s belly, but shots in show rarely show it. Just thought you’d like to know, Junkball. Great video as always!

  • @alexc3504
    @alexc35044 жыл бұрын

    Gonna have a controversial opinion, I think the discovery ship looks quite cool especially seeing their design inspiration and thought process, also didn't know the thing about crossfield being named after a pilot or the walker being named after a pilot. I also really liked the crossfield class as it was a pretty neat departure, kinda the same but different, especially without the poorly designed bridge dome on top. Feels like a ship designed for war.

  • @LeeSolutions1
    @LeeSolutions15 жыл бұрын

    You, sir, deserve more subscribers.

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner5 жыл бұрын

    Dope, the Alpha version from the preview trailer was pretty cool. Thanks!

  • @jimskywaker4345

    @jimskywaker4345

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes, while it doesn't fit the era the best it still looks star trek, unlike the finished version

  • @johnga911
    @johnga9115 жыл бұрын

    why are your background music choices so good

  • @MeetDannyWilson
    @MeetDannyWilson5 жыл бұрын

    3:53 Reminds me of the tail section of the "F-22 raptor" aircraft.

  • @hobbiesnorth4440
    @hobbiesnorth44405 жыл бұрын

    And so, after all the hard work and thought....We Bring You the 23rd Century Warp powered Pizza Cutter.😒

  • @mitchjones7403

    @mitchjones7403

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually, it's 22nd century. And it's not a pizza cutter

  • @HistoricNerd
    @HistoricNerd5 жыл бұрын

    Could a Friday night get any better, I submit it cannot.

  • @HoldandModify
    @HoldandModify4 жыл бұрын

    Fuller's best comment when we were working on it, "I don't want them to be able to make a toy. I want it to CUT people. That's how flat I want the saucer. Like a pizza cutter." Fuller didn't last long after that. ;) Another rarely known fact. The registry number. Yeah. It changed weeks before he got the boot. He changed it to the Halloween date at the last minute because, "I really like Halloween." Also, the spinning rings was literally last second. Like...DAYS before shipping.

  • @biggles1852
    @biggles18525 жыл бұрын

    I love the look into the design process. Nice job! Still a pretty ugly ship, though.... IMHO.....

  • @Purdue1986Boiler

    @Purdue1986Boiler

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think it went from hideous in it's original configuration to "okay" in the show. It is growing on me though.

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Purdue1986Boiler I like the show and ship well enough but actually think the trailer version was better if just cleaned up for production filming. It looked like something that could have directly preceded the TOS Enterprise design, and The recessed section reminds me of the Oberth class. A ship I have long thought must predate the TOS era by a long time, the Grissom has a 3 digit registration number far lower than anything seen from TOS and later designs and it lacks any sort of lighting effects for the engines or other non window elements. Just like the very early Cage era Enterprise. If there’s still a design element that links them it would have to be the windows, the canon size of the Oberth would clash with the deck count you get going by the bumper of window rows on the model. But Discovery has a unique design where many decks have two levels of windows, if you layout the Oberth deck plan along side it’s external model you get several decks that would have two rows of windows! Oh, and the nacelles being attached directly to the hull is shared between them.

  • @johanwittens7712

    @johanwittens7712

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep i don't like it either. Looks like they took a saucer and strapped a klingon D7 to the back of it. Even the spere in the saucer in front has echos of the D7. As a designer i think it was a bad choice to go back to concept art. There's usually a reason why it got stuck to being concept art, because it was NOT the best design. The design grew, changed and then became the final design in the constitution class. That design best matched the vision of rodenberry and what he wanted for star trek, the concept disovery is based on didn't. To me discovery does not feel like a star fleet ship at all, simply becauses of the very wide, angular back section that looks nothing like anything we ever saw before in star fleet. As i already said, the back looks more like a klingon ship then a star fleet ship. They should have made the effort to design something new. Plenty of ideas and creatives out there. But the show seems in short supply of those for anything they do as in general, i don't like the design choices they made (or the show in general for that matter). The general aesthetic of the show is nothing like star trek or star fleet for me.... The aesthetic of the show looks more like Battlestar: Discovery or Star trek: The expanse. :)

  • @brielsaideles

    @brielsaideles

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think that the Discovery, the STB Enterprise and de SBC Aegis are the most beautiful ships in the Star Trek history.

  • @EpicGoatman
    @EpicGoatman5 жыл бұрын

    The ultimate problem with the design of the ship is that they used an early and unused concept sketch from the design process for another ship. There is a reason why they didn’t go with that concept sketch. Because it’s bad. Designers make dozens of these kinds of sketches when finding which one fits. It’s ludicrous that everyone treats everything that the original artists did like they’re the end all be all of designs. You know, in the design process, you end up making a lot of SHIT before you make something that’s good and works. Like Chewbacca, they didn’t use the first idea they thought of. But rebels took their first idea and made that ugly THING

  • @NoMan31
    @NoMan315 жыл бұрын

    Oh yea, Junkball Media uploaded a new video!

  • @kennyplop
    @kennyplop3 жыл бұрын

    I knew I was right in thinking only the top spins and not the main saucer, so many youtube channels kept saying the whole saucer

  • @krim7
    @krim75 жыл бұрын

    I feel like so many of the concept art pictures were much stronger than the final product. The ship still looks dumb and I do not like it. I wish the Shenzhou was the main ship of the show (but scaled down in size so its saucer section is the same size as the constitution class).

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    krim7 I don’t get the obsession with thinking the Constitution class was supposed to be the largest ship in the fleet? It is never stated anywhere in canon, it is often referred to as a cruiser. And cruisers are not traditionally large ships. It’s sometimes called a “heavy” cruiser, a term that doesn’t really exist in real world navies except in response to a certain treaty. It is often shown to be the most advanced ship class of the fleet, but that has little to do with size. Being vastly more advanced than the Shenzou can simply mean better in every way and more compact overall.

  • @Eremon1

    @Eremon1

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Shenzhou was awesome! Like who passed the design for the discovery?

  • @nagash303

    @nagash303

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just googled Shenzhou and for me it looks like an oversized Miranda. and we know what happens to Miranda ships don't we?

  • @axenledgie1423

    @axenledgie1423

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DrewLSsix It's stupid to assume the Constitution ISN'T the largest class of her time. Like, no. Why else would she have been the hero ship of the first Trek series if she wasn't the most formidable ship in the fleet?

  • @nick_stayz_lit7377

    @nick_stayz_lit7377

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrewLSsix Do you think anybody regularly makes it a practice to take their littlest ship and call them the fleet's *flagship*? Just because DISCO's showrunners love the smell of their own farts doesn't mean you have to, too.

  • @Theottselmaster
    @Theottselmaster4 жыл бұрын

    2020 and its STILL the most ugly thing in starfleet.

  • @soarin64

    @soarin64

    3 жыл бұрын

    even in the 31 it somehow seem out of place

  • @Theottselmaster

    @Theottselmaster

    3 жыл бұрын

    I redact this after the POS ship in Picard.

  • @TNA-Aylin
    @TNA-Aylin4 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who likes the uss discovery? (Minus the wired hull texture)

  • @MrMoorkey
    @MrMoorkey5 жыл бұрын

    The problem with Trek haters is, once they have said they hate something, they feel they can't unhate something so publicly, no matter how much they like it.

  • @jamesc708
    @jamesc7085 жыл бұрын

    Actually the ship is my least issue with the show :/ it's all the other elements that were plagiarized from the 2014 indie game "Tardigrades".

  • @Ostermond
    @Ostermond3 жыл бұрын

    Apparently Fuller originally wanted the Discovery to disguise itself as a D-7, hence the ball on the neck and the squared-off nacelle housing.

  • @Lokiawa
    @Lokiawa5 жыл бұрын

    (Trying to convey in a neutral emotion) I love Eaves, I don't blame him for what he was given to work with, but still Fuller should've given Eaves some slack to come up with another legendary ship and not polish up wadded up art that Gene Roddenberry and or others threw away. At least with the Phase II Enterprise, it still had familiarities that people would recognize and welcome more willingly than McQuire's (in my opinion) lazy "concept".

  • @peterthx

    @peterthx

    5 жыл бұрын

    The McQuarrie design predates SW and was *approved* - the movie was halted during preproduction.

  • @earthling9913
    @earthling99132 жыл бұрын

    2:13 it actually isn't black, it's more of like a dark gold/bronze, but in space it looks black

  • @CaptainTyler148
    @CaptainTyler1485 жыл бұрын

    Wow another transmission!

  • @captianjessie1
    @captianjessie15 жыл бұрын

    Tje doscovery would look a lot better with red orange nacelle bussard collector like on tos add in the tos pin stripping and shorten the nacelles or go with temp nacelles

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    captianjessie1 If the design was supposed to predate the Enterprise it would make sense if it didn’t have the same features, the pre refit Enterprise didn’t have lit nacelles at all! I know the ships were new builds and loaded with a whole second star drive but the basic elements resemble the other older ships seen in the show, making me believe the basic parts are established technology while the Enterprise is the newer generation design wise. It’s not the design I would have gone with, but I have always had a weak spot for the more bizarre Federation ship designs lol.

  • @marcmorgan7796
    @marcmorgan77964 жыл бұрын

    This thread is a year old and only has 112k views, proof that the new star treks are grossly unpopular. The link below is only 3 months old (also a Junkball video) but it is from the original timeline and already has over 300K views. That says a lot! Discovery and the Picard show sucks, why did they have to go and screw up the recipe? Its a reason the 60s show grew into a phenomenon that gave rise to star trek TNG, DS9 and Voyager, all lasting 7 years each because the soul of star trek that was born in the 60s was still there, that is the soul of hope, not to say that there is a better future with aliens and whatnot although that is cool as hell, but rather that we as a species conquered racism, poverty, money, greed, starvation, pollution, crime, religious intolerance, disease and so many other issues. This is why star trek has lasted and why the new shows fail. If all you can do is show us a show that is a mirror image of the world we currently live in, why the hell would I waste money paying to see some BS when I can just as easily see the same BS looking out the window or turning to the nightly news, its just garbage!!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJmLrbiGiLLPm8o.html

  • @TheElnots
    @TheElnots5 жыл бұрын

    Came for the cars on this channel, stayed for the sci-fi geek-out!

  • @Kreachie
    @Kreachie2 жыл бұрын

    7:36 It Actually does have a Pennant, It's On the Upper Outward facing Slants on the Forward Ends of Both of the Warp Nacelles, It's Coloured White, Similarly to how the Registry was Coloured.

  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus4 жыл бұрын

    I have to address the elephant in the room, that concept for the Enterprise that became the Discovery, WAS REJECTED in the 1970s. As in it was not found favorable, so why in the hell would they use a concept that didn't make the cut?

  • @MGuyGadbois
    @MGuyGadbois5 жыл бұрын

    1:10 The problem is - Ralph McQuarrie's style (especially in scifi with the wide reaching audience of Star Wars) was something that defined the " used future" aesthetic we see in Star Wars and Alien, i.e. all the 80's. Star Trek was originally made in the 60's when scifi was still 'supposed' to look sleek and clean. [I think Roddenberry even stipulated minimum lines and detail on the hull! "Race car" "dragster" in space with aviation influences] When they did the re-fit in 1979 they updated while still keeping a sort-of 'smooth' aesthetic - at the least EVERYTHING FLOWED and looked good at any filming angle (apply the 1/3 frame thing or the Golden Ration to any angle of the original or refit and it will look good. Applies for the most part to TNG but not Voyager. I can't really count DS9 (since the station was symmetrical and the Defiant too compact - though it applies and makes it work perfect in battle shots). I give up on NX-01 ... too simple to delve into like the Defiant, except a pie tin in the air at any angle would work (I actually dig the NX design in secret). I think the refit even accentuated this aesthetic by sweeping the nacelle struts back at a V ... and moving the connection of the pylons forward on the secondary hull, which makes sense when we see the new larger shuttle/cargo bay in TMP ... and the ends of the nacelles at angles. I'd bet the angels in which the rim of the saucer, the neck, the struts, the shuttlebay, etc are even on tempo. Yes, space has no air so why make things aerodynamic etc. But that's the design that was laid out that defines the franchise. It's not the Millenium Falcon it's the Excelsior, it's not a Star Destroyer its the Enterprise yadda yadda. Referring to a concept that was radically different and never followed through with through 13 films and 4 TV series makes no sense. It's a dead end. It's even dead on the timeline because pre-Discovery ships follow the same aesthetic as Matt Jefferies, Probert, etc. It looks like carving fork.

  • @MGuyGadbois

    @MGuyGadbois

    5 жыл бұрын

    P.S. Less Ralph McQuarrie, more Ken Adam.

  • @thumpercomet3856
    @thumpercomet38565 жыл бұрын

    I go back and forth on whether I like the ship design. I like the longer nacelles and I like the general shape of the ship, I just don't like that the secondary hull is raised up on a neck but the whole back end of the ship is flat. It feels really unbalanced.

  • @KingofPotatoPeople
    @KingofPotatoPeople5 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating history to the design. I really like it, but not so keen on the bronze finish.

  • @sorasora749
    @sorasora7495 жыл бұрын

    I don't like the open shuttle bay , enemy ship can pretty much blast it way thru the force field once the shields go down.

  • @vedranbileta8346
    @vedranbileta83465 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I particularly like the detail on plates rotating...not rings. I swear I have seen rings rotating in the show. I bet the spore flip is also an illusion, and it works differently than my brain perceived it. Could you do the same for other DSC ships? And will you review other Eaglemoss models from DSC line?

  • @robinvan1983
    @robinvan19835 жыл бұрын

    THe 4:32 concept design of Discovery is the best

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack784 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry. Being something of an illustrator myself, I can certainly appreciate the kind of time, effort and creativity that goes into any kind of large-scale project, but that ship is just plain FUGLY.

  • @Scripture-Man
    @Scripture-Man5 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks! :) As someone who hasn't seen the new show (and won't be watching it!) I was hoping this would be more of an introduction to the new ship. This is really my first look. Seeing all these sketches and visuals, I had no idea which (if any) was the final design. Does the saucer section really rotate? That's a big shock, and it seems too advanced for the timeline it sits in?

  • @Scripture-Man

    @Scripture-Man

    5 жыл бұрын

    @MonkeyZorr Thanks, that seems bizarre!

  • @uadhlagash7280

    @uadhlagash7280

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Scripture-Man it's the effect they use for the Spore Drive.

  • @Blodhelm
    @Blodhelm10 ай бұрын

    It looks pretty close to the tiny model from the "In Living Color" spoof with Jim Carey.

  • @deadNightwatchman
    @deadNightwatchman4 жыл бұрын

    So the copper look comes from the faded, old paper of the McQuarrie design sketch?

  • @richardwillett
    @richardwillett5 жыл бұрын

    I want to get the new Polar Lights model of Discovery just so I can convert it to look like a proper Star Fleet ship!

  • @daanbos5918
    @daanbos59183 жыл бұрын

    sometimes I want to design my own starship

  • @propadanda
    @propadanda5 жыл бұрын

    I'm just here for the used matress sale

  • @danwaigand
    @danwaigand5 жыл бұрын

    despite some bugs, that startrek game was actually really awesome, and had some of the best environment art/assets any games had. Luckily that game became WARFRAME. Sadly Warframe deviated a lot when it came to characters and mood.

  • @endless031
    @endless0315 жыл бұрын

    Just one word to describe that thing: Uuuuugly

  • @k1productions87

    @k1productions87

    5 жыл бұрын

    at least its not the Enterprise-J

  • @akeel_1701

    @akeel_1701

    5 жыл бұрын

    or FUGLY, even?

  • @OOTurok

    @OOTurok

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@k1productions87 Oh God... which is worse. Fugly Discovery or E-J?

  • @k1productions87

    @k1productions87

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@OOTurok Enterprise-J, hands down, no contest. The Discovery at least has some positive traits and a few angles she looks good (or at least decent) in. The Universe-class, on the other hand.... I spent 20 minutes flying around one in STO in every possible angle to find at least ONE she looks presentable in,... and it is not possible. There is literally no possible way to make that frizbee and twigs look decent from ANY angle

  • @OOTurok

    @OOTurok

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@k1productions87 That's true. The space pancake is ugly from every conceivable angle... but the Discovery is a very, very close second for most ugly. I think the USS Shenzhou is a really badass design though. I really wish the show was about Capt. Georgiou & her ship. I like her character. Can't stand the Burnham Mary Sue, & I don't care much for the Kirk wannabe Capt Pike.

  • @mwilson308
    @mwilson3084 жыл бұрын

    ok what is the intro music? ive heard it before and so want to find it again

  • @abraxsmith01
    @abraxsmith015 жыл бұрын

    So it's actually based on the Canadian Avro Arrow which predates the examples given. Canada also contributed to putting a man on the moon yet we get no credit for our role in that en-devour either.

  • @My-Name-Isnt-Important

    @My-Name-Isnt-Important

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, its based off of the XB-70. The CF-105 Arrow is a smaller interceptor design, while the XB-70 is a larger strategic bomber. The XB-70 has a much longer fuselage and is very different than the CF-105. The Canadian CF-105 shares much of its design elements with American aircraft of the period, such as the Convair F-102 Delta Dagger, they're both delta-wing interceptors from the 50s. The XB-70 was following a later design choice that many aircraft manufacturers of its time were testing. Perhaps you are thinking of the Avro 730, the English design that was cancelled but was to have the same role as the American XB-70?

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire4 жыл бұрын

    Shit no wonder I like the Crossfield class, I LOVED the XB-70. Mad I didn't see it before.

  • @galacticcore0796
    @galacticcore07962 жыл бұрын

    At least the Crossfield class design is very unique and different from most other starfleet ship designs

  • @John_Lemon23
    @John_Lemon234 жыл бұрын

    What’s the song that you played when Star Trek Discovery popped up in the beginning.

  • @Bonzulac
    @Bonzulac5 жыл бұрын

    04:40 What are "bizarre collectors?" (That's not just me. The closed captions heard it that way, too.)