Those little cargo pods coming out of the neck were running tests on the torpedo loading ports, but the actual torpedoes were not due until Tuesday.

@TheShornak

4 жыл бұрын

If you look at Star Trek 6 the actual torpedo ports the command of the Excelsior were down on the secondary Hall and I believe there was still there Enterprise B

@georgegard.aka.currymonste1498

3 жыл бұрын

I'm writing this on a Tuesday...they haven't arrived yet

@mikey2363

3 жыл бұрын

Please please please start making Star Trek videos again Neon Visual! 🖖🏻

@stephenfurches5091

3 жыл бұрын

Nail file storage. Or rocks.

@BlindMansRevenge2002

2 жыл бұрын

Just like the tractor beam wasn’t due to be installed until Tuesday and just like the medical team wasn’t due to come on board until Tuesday.

The Excelsior is still my favorite starship design from my favorite Star Trek film. It perfectly fits that 1980s futurism aesthetic, but doesn't look out of place next to the Enterprise-A or Enterprise-D. The perfect transition design. Probably why it was used for the Enterprise-B.

@JohnnyZenith

4 жыл бұрын

I think the B looks even better.

@WardenWolf

3 жыл бұрын

I personally think the Sovereign is meant to essentially be a 24th century Excelsior. Very similar aesthetics.

@DragoonMS

3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is that in the TNG Technical Manual, there's a section with tiny overhead & side view designs of the Constitution, Constitution Refit, Excelsior, Ambassador, & Galaxy classes...and the Enterprise-B shown there was the original Excelsior design (most likely due to the fact that the book came out before Generations).

@ogs_Boga1900

3 жыл бұрын

in my opinion , it looks like a radiator... to each his own i guess

@eXcommunicate1979

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Excelsior looks a LOT like the evil robot in Robocop. Same bulky aesthetic with bluish silver paneling and black grills.

Always loved the Excelsior's design. Perfectly round saucer section, it's big fat body, and the sharper lines on the back end just work really well. What a great ship, and I was glad it was still in service during the TNG era.

"Aye, and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon!"

@jimd385

4 жыл бұрын

“Now now Mr Scott, young minds, fresh ideas....be tolerant”

@Tony-dh7mz

4 жыл бұрын

“ where does he get those wonderful toys‘ ..nope wait, “ where we're going we don't need roads” ....f*!K, one more time.. “ it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night. Mostly’ ...... ........ .............I’ll get my coat.....

@jimd385

4 жыл бұрын

Tony ........Batman, Back to the Future, Aliens.........that last one was ‘The fast show’

@Tony-dh7mz

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimd385 Er...noooo, phh, the last one was me,

@jimd385

4 жыл бұрын

Tony ....lol.

7:55 - What?! They re-shot the whole scene from the movie for an episode of Star Trek Voyager and managed to get the same people back to re-film it, while building the set again?! Amazing!

@DogsRNice

3 жыл бұрын

All with a tv budget

@procyon6370

2 жыл бұрын

For an anniversary episode...

@pwnmeisterage

2 жыл бұрын

Tim Russ (Tuvok) directed it. Planned carefully and prepared for a long time to "get it perfect, so even the nitpickers can't find any problems". It's not perfect, of course, and nitpickers have nitpicked a thousand flaws out of it. But it was still very well done.

I know this design isn’t exactly a fan favorite over some others, but I always really loved it. It looks like a “real” starship to me, just hard to explain.

Actually on DS9 they also used an off the shelf model kit of the Excelsior. It was used for midground and background shots. They didn’t even bother light rigging it. They put reflective tape and paint where all the windows and glowing bits were. I’ve seen it. It’s awesome. :)

Combining the Star Trek V camping sequence with First Contact was genius. Well done!

*Hears them sweet Junkball beats, knows there's gonna be ROCKS somewhere in this video.*

......I waited for the rocks

@davfree9732

3 жыл бұрын

Geode... before he jumped ship to Star Wars and found fame playing a rock.

I clicked this on accident thinking it was old and thought to myself "I wonder what he's doing", then saw it was new. That always happens with Junkball xD

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. They're all kinda the same.

@thod8820

4 жыл бұрын

@@JunkBallMedia You are the high quality junk food of the Trek Fanbase, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

@Tuning3434

4 жыл бұрын

@@JunkBallMedia The mark of TRUE GENIUS: Circles with in Circles within Circles. It's like poetry, it rimes and Jar Jar is the key to everything, if we can get him to work!

@JohnnyZenith

4 жыл бұрын

@@JunkBallMedia Make more.

The Excelsior is one of my faves ever. It competes directly with the Galaxy class for my affections.

“I don’t care what colour the headrest is” 😂😂😂😂 Killed me.

“I don’t care what color the headrest is!” How do you find these clips? It’s almost as if you have every episode memorized to be able to pull out the perfect clip for every situation.

@StarWarriorCentral

4 жыл бұрын

I believe that was an episode where everybody was obsessing over minute things because of a nearby anomaly. Archer with his speech, Trip with adjusting Archer's chair (because Archer said it was giving him back pain), etc. etc. Trip obsessed to the point where he tried to make it the most advanced chair ever made, and he wanted to make the headrest the color Archer preferred. 😂

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a curse, especially when I remember the dialog but I not which episode.

@nealsterling8151

4 жыл бұрын

Of course. Every Star Trek fan knows these things.

@danielhall5364

4 жыл бұрын

@@nealsterling8151 except the current writers and producers

@eddiemoohan5539

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielhall5364 how true Dan

My take on it is, that the Enterprise and the Constitution class as a whole proved that much higher warp speeds than previously thought possible can be reached. This lead to the great experiment of the Excelsior with a more powerful warp core to push it even further. Overall it was a success even with the Excelsior class never quite making it to transwarp. As a result measurement scale of warp speeds were adjusted to the one of the TNG era and beyond.

@GoldenCroc

4 жыл бұрын

So the excelsior was the first ship with TNG levels of speed? Not bad, I like it.

@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102

4 жыл бұрын

@@GoldenCroc that is my interpretation at least. It would also explain the Excelsiors as the backbone of the TNG era Starfleet.

@acmenipponair

4 жыл бұрын

Perhabs not the speed of the TNG ships - but the core design which was first tested on the Refit of the Enterprise and then used in the Excelsior proved, that ships could go much faster. So they then build the Ambassador class with an even bigger warp core to reach the maximum possible in speed. Then they made the core smaller and more efficient for the Galaxy and later classes. And in the 2370s a powerful warp drive would even fit into a Destroyer or Akira-class.

@silkwesir1444

11 ай бұрын

I see it similar to that. "Transwarp" may not be a reference to a specific type of technology but rather a general terms for types of propulsion beyond Warp. Once the Excelsior test runs were completed, they stopped calling it Transwarp, because by then it had become the normal type of Warp.

"Transwarp" means several things in star trek, it can mean what the borg have, but with the excelsior it meant the ability to jump directly to any available warp speed, rather than going through them sequentially as shown previously, which obviously takes time to do, so over short trips it could make a difference. Later on in star trek going straight to a warp factor rather than 1-2-3-4-5-6 for example is shown all the time, so did it really fail, if that is what "transwarp" meant in this case?

@madmax2069

4 жыл бұрын

There was also a recalculation of what what warp speeds was. So a given warp speed in TOS was also different than the same warp speeds in TNG forward (warp 1 was always measured as the speed of light). I seen somewhere where warp 9 in TNG would be warp 18 in TOS warp scale due to how they measured warp speeds. So the transwarp for the Excelsior could very well be the warp 9 for the TNG era, or at least very close to it.

@shingshongshamalama

4 жыл бұрын

The upshot of all this is that Starfleet radically redesigned its warp engines during the TOS movies.

@ericbonifield768

3 жыл бұрын

Really? No shit......that's interesting

@jurassickaiju14

3 жыл бұрын

Huh. I don't recall hearing that explanation before. Very interesting.

@RuddsReels

2 жыл бұрын

+Leon Is this official, or some fan site explanation?

The excelsior refit was always my favorite ship design when I was little, the Enterprise B was a beauty. I’d love to see what a modern looking one would look like today.

My day to day life is a dark environment and these videos brighten my day more than I can tell you.

From what I’ve read, and I wish I could remember twenty years ago lol, but the Excelsior’s warp drive was revolutionary because it was the first attempt to mate two warp drives per nacelle. It required a monumental computer and a strong core to power four warp field generators at once. I think the company/entity developing the drive was Shuvijinalis, a Vulcan conglomerate or something like that...

He hath returned, bearing fruit in the form of my favourite ship, no less.

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

I sensed that. This one was made for you.

@TheMrPeteChannel

4 жыл бұрын

@@JunkBallMedia nice to see you are still amongst the living!

I've never understood the claim, the idea, that transwarp failed with the Excelsior. The only reason the Excelsior failed to go into transwarp and catch Enterprise was because Scotty had sabotaged her. In Next Gen, the Galaxy class ships are obviously far faster than Constitution ones, and warp designations have been reconfigured so that Warp 10 is a theoretical impossibility being equivalent to infinite speed, while the original Enterprise went to much higher warp numbers on more than one occasion. Obviously, by Picard's time, warp means something different than it did in Kirk's.The only reasonable explanation is that 24th century ships use what was called transwarp in the 23rd century, but the terminology has been changed for some reason. How this relates to what the 24th century characters were calling transwarp in relation to the Borg, I don't know, but obviously the 24th century ships are using very different tech from the 23rd. It must be transwarp.

@JohnnyZenith

4 жыл бұрын

No. Transwarp failed because it didn't properly work, regardless of the sabotage.

@odysseusrex5908

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyZenith And when were any such test results ever shown?

@acmenipponair

4 жыл бұрын

No. But the crew of the Excelsior and of Space Dock can be glad, the Transwarp didn't started up at that moment. It would have been deadly for all of them.

@odysseusrex5908

4 жыл бұрын

@@acmenipponair Why?

@IainShepherd1

4 жыл бұрын

@@odysseusrex5908 maybe Acme is referring to Voyager's 'Threshold'? memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Threshold_(episode)

I've always loved the look of the Excelsior class - something about those angular pylons and the ribbed grey neck. Although the Galaxy class will always be my favorite.

@esecallum

4 жыл бұрын

THE EXCELSIOR CAN BE BUILD ON THE GROUND AS A TOURIST ATTRACTION/HOTEL DUE TO THE SUBSTANTIVE NECK AND THEN FITTED WITH SPACE ENGINES WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE...

One other nail file of information. Tuvok not only appeared on the Excelsior in Voyager, but also on the Enterprise-B in Generations. (Albeit he was a Human instead of a Vulcan)

@TAZ95C4

4 жыл бұрын

He was also in an episode of TNG as a human terrorist

@BrotherDerrick3X

4 жыл бұрын

@@TAZ95C4 and on DS9 as Tuvok's mirror universe counterpart.

For some reason I really love the original Star Trek III Excelsior bridge. It just looks so super 80s, with the stark white huge space, then those shiny black consoles in the back full of flashing multicolored lights. It reminds me of an old arcade or something, especially with the green lights on the bottom of the chairs and the old-school graphics on the Transwarp display. The Star Trek VI version looks more dignified and probably fits with the exterior better, but if I could step inside one of them, it'd be the older one. The Excelsior is also my favorite class of ship in Star Trek, I just love everything about the shape and colors.

One of the most beautiful ships in science fiction.

@classicgalactica5879

3 жыл бұрын

It's hideous. It looks like an inverted Homer Simpson.

@madmax2069

3 жыл бұрын

@@classicgalactica5879 hahahaha, but I agree it's hideous.

Most certainly my favourite Star Trek design- specifically the refit, which makes me weird apparently. I really hope a clear version of the refit (or just a nice model at all) comes out eventually.

What I love is a description of the Excelsior's I read many many years ago, it was a theory as to why the Excelsiors were still so popular with Admirals and the bulk of the fleet by TNG. Due to the Transwarp Drive being designed into the ship, the hull were extremely overbuilt compared to any other ship of her era. When Transwarp failed, the Excelsior's design was still the best in the Galaxy so they went into production overbuilt design and all. I always loved that thought, explains the thick neck ;-)

@MotoroidARFC

4 жыл бұрын

Someone on the model design staff saw the battle in Wrath of Kahn and made the neck thicker so the ship couldn't be "decapitated" easily as Enterprise nearly was.

really love the design of the Excelsior after the Enterprise refit design its one of my favorite enjoyed this retrospective

@drali

4 жыл бұрын

Francis Fernandes agreed! It’s both an evolution of the Enterprise refit design and also something completely new.

@StevenCarrie

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, lovely design until they ruined the flow of the hull with those wings on the Enterprise B

@Gentleman...Driver

4 жыл бұрын

@@StevenCarrie I like both: The more beefy Design of the Enterprise B and the original one. There is room for both of them in my heart. :)

When I first saw the Excelsior class starship I thought it looked clumsy. I understood why they called it the " pregnant skateboard "! Over the years it grew on me.

I missed you.

Junkball is the best! I still love the old "Therapy" videos.

This along with the Miranda is my favourite class of ship in star trek

I first found your channel a few months ago and kept waiting and waiting for a new video. And waiting and waiting some more. Thought maybe it was my fault. But you're back! I appreciate your knowledge and research that must go into producing three videos, plus the editing and your humor. Much talent. Thank you!

The Excelsior has long been my favorite Star Trek ship, ever since I watched Star Trek VI oh so many years ago.

Good to have you back, Been Missing your videos. I understand that there only so much you can do.

Dude, believe it or not, these videos help IMMENSELY. "Help?" you ask? What do you mean "help?" Wellllll, there are tons of creative types out there (writers, designers, effects people, etc.) who need to know some of this for their work and to find details already researched by someone (you) makes life much easier. Also, it's cool to know what happened to the models, how they were conceived and designed and what all the little features are. So - THANK YOU! Keep up the good work! Did you ever do a video about the Enterprise refit model? I'd love to know what's up with that. Last I heard it's sitting unprotected on a stand in the lobby of one of Jeff Bezos' companies.

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the encouragement. I’ve always meant to cover the Constitution refit in-depth but time always slips away.

I love your channel, Junkball!!! This was one of your best videos, for sure! I love all the little things you brought up. I really enjoy your content!

0:03 Captain Styles eyes shift right with the music - perfect!

Brilliant! “If you’re still watching.... you care about things that are not worth caring about” 😀 That got my subscribe!

The refit enterprise and excelsior is peak design for Federation ships. Everything that comes after is derivative. The production designer really hit the high water mark. Nothing comes close to such beautiful ships on screen.

Another excellent edit for nerds who know they're nerds and don't mind having the piss taken out of them for being nerds. Thanks!

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yup. If you're a nerd, just lean into it.

Dude, you rock!!! love your sense of humor.... ..... boot.

I appreciate you measuring that the Exccelsior was in Startrek Enterprise for a moment when Archer was going through Daniel's stuff. 1/8th of a second.. Now I know . Thanks Bro.

Always good to see you post man. Hope you and the fam are well. Live long and prosper.

You know just how much Star Trek there is when this guy found a clip not only talking about a headrest, not only about the colour of the headrest, but a person talking about how they don't care what colour the headrest is!

I really love that you use really cool 80's music for your videos!

Thx Junkball, always found the excelsior fascinating...This was very entertaining. Keep up the great work.

Great vid Junkball media, and well made. I found it very interesting, just like your other videos. Keep up the good work, it is appreciated 👍

Yay, i was binge watching them all yesterday and this appeared. Best day ever

@Elkott

4 жыл бұрын

Binge them all again and we might get another video

me: today is a good day to die! Junkball: *Uploads* Me: I shall live to fight another day

You have some of the best Lore and Ship videos on KZread. Great humor, well edited, consistently good. Thank You!

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. There are plenty of better channels out there, so I'm flattered.

A fantastic video as always. I hate the wait between your videos but I know the quality is going to be there.

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

I hate the wait between videos too. This video was boring AF until a few days ago. It was a last minute scramble to trim 5 minutes off and tweak parts. I'm glad you liked it.

To me it is the most beautiful Star Trek good guy ship ever. There are elements of art deco around.

Your videos are the best, glad to see you back!

Junkball brings the best of us together.

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Aw shucks.

@kelabarcher1814

4 жыл бұрын

Junkball i love how you’ll sometimes sound a little shy about your jokes. Yes they’re corny and we all love them. You’re amazing, please never stop.

You've compiled a very effective analysis of the Excelsior from Star Trek! The design for the ship is interesting in various ways, even though it is somewhat awkward compared to other Enterprise iterations. Your background research is great, and the side by side comparisons are particularly effective, especially in the section on the recreated interiors. It is fascinating how the reconstructed set for the Voyager episode is different in so many ways, but yet still seems like the same bridge.

@SkyCharger001

3 жыл бұрын

The voyager version's bridge is constructed from Tuvok's memories, so it could be a mix-and-match of the various stages of her existence during his tenure on the vessel.

@misterlyle.

3 жыл бұрын

@@SkyCharger001 Good point; I wonder if it could also be a symptom of a developing cognitive disorder.

I always loved the Excelsior. And I see the Sovereign as a TNG-era Excelsior, which it really is. It has similar proportions and similar positions in the timelines of their respective eras. They're both beautiful ships, long and lean, with stretched nacelles.

One of my favourite all time starships. Thanks for making this!

You know, Picard could have used the Nexus to travel back in time several days, saved his family, and captured Soran before anything bad happened. Or not, I guess.

@nealsterling8151

4 жыл бұрын

Why not? It would have been the logical thing to do.

@ToonamiT0M

4 жыл бұрын

@@nealsterling8151 Because movie must happen. So write it to happen.

@nealsterling8151

4 жыл бұрын

@@ToonamiT0M True, but writers shouldn't assume the audience is as stupid as they are.

@MrAshleyR

4 жыл бұрын

It's an obvious thing to do, but I think Picard knew the risks of messing around with time travel too much.

@nealsterling8151

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrAshleyR He wasn't fit for duty since he knew of the death of his brother and nephew. Heck, he didn't even care about the loss of his ship, nor the precious Kurlan Naiscos. It is almost like the writers forgot anything about TNG, lol.

Just found you channel and definitely subscribing. Love you’re sense of humor. Great video.

So glad your back. I would love to see a Mirianda or Oberth Class video!

Thanks for posting mate! I love all those little details.

Your channel is the best Star Trek channel on KZread.

I LOVE your channel! You are definitely my favorite Trektuber. Keep the videos coming! Your humor always brightens my day! How about something on the evolution of Starfleet computers and the LCARS?

Everytime I see your latest video in my feed, it's like Christmas!

I had the honor of modeling and texturing this awesome ship for a videogame. It really is a thing of beauty.

Love junkball!!! Its a retrospective even! My favorite!!!

Missed you bro!

Love your videos. Always funny but informative. Look forward to the next one.

Love you videos. There fun, light hearted and I appreciate your attention to details.

Love your videos! They are funny and packed with knowledge of trek ships!

And another 12 k since this video. You'll get to 100k in no time at that rate. I'd say 5 to 6 months. I thought I already was, but you just got a new one. I can't even count how many sci fi channels I'm subbed to now.

Awesome ship m and still looks as elegant 40 years later. Now thats good design work ILM

Been a while since you posted a video. I'm glad you haven't given this up. You make Excellent Content. :)

Already to ALMOST 60k subs! Good work Junkball!

At moment 0:04, I'm sure this was 1 very young Mr.Miguel Ferrer. Mi.., how years have passed us by ?.. R.I.P. Mr.Ferrer, U will always be remembered.

@DrWhom

4 жыл бұрын

I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to King Ho-Ho-Ho, I really am, but right now I’m trying hard to focus on the more immediate problems of our own century right here

I recently listened to a very fascinating podcast episode about Andre the Giant by the Stuff You Should Know guys. From now on, I want every single object compared to him in size. All joking aside, great video. I love Star Trek 3. It will always be my favorite because of the beautiful model work.

The intros to these are the greatest.

Always nice to see a new video from one of my subs.

HES BACK BABY

Mate, your last video was 4 months ago... So happy you're back. Ace video, funny as. Nice. Please don't let it be another 4 months.

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope it’s not another 4 months too.

So happy I found this channel

I remember a negative comment from the magazine Cinefantastique who took issue with the look of Excelsior. To paraphrase; 'it looks something like a half squeezed toothpaste tube.' I laughed at that description, but reminded myself she STILL turned out sleekly beautiful. From those of us who followed Star Trek from the very beginning, there were NO other variations of Federation starship design. In TOS we seen other sister Constitution Class ships in other episodes. IN TAS there was one, the S.S. Bonaventure lost in the Delta Triangle a century and a half before Kirk and his crew voyages. We went from seeing ONLY slicked out refitted Enterprise in TMP to seeing a Oberth class-science vessel Grissom and ALL NEW heavy cruiser design Excelsior. Just as we felt back in 1982 TWOK, 1979 TMP and in the last season of TOS in 1969 none of us knew other new starship designs awaited our escapist delight...LOOK AT US NOW!

Your videos are great! Informative without taking themselves too seriously.

Dude. This was fabulous. Thank you for all the detail. And I thought I knew it all.

The shot with the neck holes that were thought to be torpedo launchers actually have the launchers in view. Below and outboard.

It was a nice video. Much attention to detail. Great job!

Great video! My favourite star trek ship design.

Great video. Congrats on the 50k subscribers! :)

Another Great Video my friend! Welcome back!

@JunkBallMedia

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Love the Excelsior... thanks for this one Junkball

Junkball is back!!!

All units of measurement will be by Andre the Giant units or AGs, in the future. Also, I worked at Office Max in the 90s and we could order a lot of chairs from our catalog that appeared from the 24th century, or ones we saw on TNG :).

Only ~50K subs? This channel is criminally underrated...

Yay! You're back!

I think the information you bring is interesting. Also. Maybe you have so many subscibers because your videos are so good. Congratulations!

I'm just so happy I'm not the only one who cares about this minutiae as much as I do.

@DrWhom

4 жыл бұрын

_these_ minutiae --- perhaps grammatical minutiae are not your thing?

@jeffgalef121

4 жыл бұрын

@@DrWhom Fair enough.

@jeffgalef121

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, upon second thought, you are incorrect. This was a spelling error, and not a grammar error.

welcome back friend!

That Archer headrest jump got me.

The Excelsior class is 1 of my favourite Starships & is a very beautiful looking vessel