This feud wasn't in vain, it sparked an important conversation.

Spike's movies will stand the test of time. His body of work Speaks VOLUMES over Tyler Perrys.

@brother-dre

5 ай бұрын

There's space for both. Folks always need division.

@MrShaiya96

4 ай бұрын

@@brother-dreexactly. Martin scorese isn’t talking shit about Michael bay, or how mike is making white people look bad. Two different lanes.

@thegadflygang5381

3 ай бұрын

​@MrShaiya96 right? I never liked the angry little man who needs to lash out. Spike has made some muddled shitty films but has been a millionaire since 25 Tyler makes warm films which appeal to family and kinship. No reason for Lee to attack the man who portrays the black family in a real and affectionate way Screw spike lee

@daniellereid7576

2 ай бұрын

Ryte he is the goat of the culture films Tyler is cheap spike lee got top names on his films all very seasoned actors Tyler get people reuse them but some u can’t recall they name jus they faces

"TYLER PERRY DON'T YOU CALL ME!" - Denzel Washington at The Academy Awards

There is room for both representations. Sometimes people just want levity and to laugh at themselves and each other. Other times people desire introspection and gravity. There’s a time for everything. The debate was, is, and always will be welcome. The best truce between these two will be for the (now) billionaire Tyler Perry to fund Spike Lee’s films.

@stevewinwood9645

Жыл бұрын

Not if he has any sense.he'd do better with Ryan coogler or Antoine fuqua or create his own new "it" person.or just invest in a motley Crue.thats what the others do.its never one person sometimes it's three or more directors.

@daniellereid7576

2 ай бұрын

Ryte but spike lee I’m sure don’t need Tyler to fund his films he has bill Cosby Janet Jackson Micheal Jordan magic johnson on his speed dail he says it on the making Malcom x film documentary then I’m sure others like jay z he from Brooklyn he got a team of financial people he probably could get some of those young rappers to dig in they pocket out of respect to fund him he retired now u think he not straight or can’t jump back in the film game and get funding please

Spike was right about black images on film and how they have been used to harm black people ie "Birth of a nation" 1915. it is very important maybe most important to be careful about the images we allow to represent us. Like it or not Tyler Perry's images has harmed us and disgraced us. His negative images are having a more lasting impact than all the positive images going back to Paul Robeson to Lena Horn up to Denzel and Spike.

@brother-dre

5 ай бұрын

Please provide specific examples.

Spike helped so many rise in Hollywood; Tyler helped himself rise in Hollywood...

@michelleclark9551

11 ай бұрын

True facts💯

@franciswise1183

5 ай бұрын

tell me how many actors that have worked with TP has gone on to do great things, I'll wait!

@brother-dre

5 ай бұрын

@@franciswise1183 He gives them the opportunity. It's up to them to take that and run with it.

@franciswise1183

5 ай бұрын

@@brother-dre it may also be once they have worker with him they could be stereotyped! it's just my opinion!

@DevareayWilliams

5 ай бұрын

@@franciswise1183Denzel Washington, Samuel L jackson, the wayans brothers, jada pinkett smith, are the most obvious answers. Did you even think before you asked that question? lol

Now i understand why Tyler is more promoted than spike Lee, cause spike message will be disturbing for the élites. I run for Spike Lee now more than ever.

@brother-dre

5 ай бұрын

Your take is interesting. Especially after other so-called elites (in the comment section) seem to support spike.

There’s no feud nor competition. Lee is an Auteur. Tyler Perry isn’t.

Tyler was in his feelings when asked about Spike. Spike gave his opinion saying that he thinks Tyler’s movies are having a negative impact on American culture. All Tyler had to say was I’m not worried about him. He just sounded like a hater in the interview. Spike remained positive.

Tyler Perry is complexly wrong about Italians and Jews not being critical of work about them. I have many Italian friends who hate what the Godfather represented. As a Jew, Seinfeld has Jewish culture in it, but did not have Jews all looking like rabbi's eating corn beef. How a black person feels about it is subjective. Jews and Italians also have many similarities.

So from Tyler Perry's perspective, anybody else that doesn't like his movies can go straight to hell. That's a messed up attitude.

Tyler Perry's films are for the segment of the black community that is more simple-minded and church-going. While Spike Lee's films tend to be geared toward the more college-educated sophisticated segment of the community.

@stevewinwood9645

Жыл бұрын

Spike Lee films are for people who thought going to college was gonna change them for the better and forgot who they were on their path to a degree.

@eddycarpenter8989

Жыл бұрын

@@stevewinwood9645 nah I think you are just projecting

@gabesule9562

Жыл бұрын

@@eddycarpenter8989 Hmmmm very interesting point ; Got my college diploma (business accounting) I mean BARELY-3 year course took me 4 (Reseat)-But I got it!! I can tell you for a fact ; I got 'lost' a lot in the partying and I sure picked up a lot of lifelong bad habits(Drinking,Weed smoking(Bong only),Tony Montana,E(before they were rebranded molly),Womanizing,Bar hopping etc ALL ON THE WAY TO THAT DEGREE 😎😎......I got lost lots 😁

@dakmycat3688

Жыл бұрын

One focuses on being drag the other on not being dragged. 😙🧐

@user-tl8hp4kt3z

11 ай бұрын

no he speaks to your house hold , your family gatherings and your july 4 bbqs , the black family , Spike speaks to black and brown issues speaks to people with artistic background like u said BUT NONE OF US IS SIMPLE MINDED

When Hattie McDaniels played in gone with the wind they accused her of setting us back by playing a maid she politly told them she would rather make 200 dollars in a.day than 200 a month as a maid lol the only people that will set us back is our own people who try to think and speak for us

Why do we choose? We all know what we like and at some point in time will end up watching both their movies. Both men have their own style. Simple. We all gravitate to what we like. Simple. These 2 are prime examples: beautiful, creative, blessed black men pitted against each other over no sensible. We aught to be better and show better. I pray this friendship continues and I pray TRUST is leading this friendship and grow into partnership and support for each other. 2 men coming together for 1 largely creative mind

Y’all need more likes for this video. Loved every second!! Very tastefully done, very impactful …. ❤

Yea tyler Jews and Italians don’t exploit their kind in Seinfeld and the sopranos. Those shows bring confidence and a sense of power and privilege, no real black man wants to be madea . Plus I’m sorry but making bread off of exploiting doesn’t make u a genius. To me spike lee journey was more important to our culture, but that doesn’t make Tyler perry less important. Tyler is very talented and I respect him also and they both definitely deserve flowers 💐 but wrong is wrong . The same with rap/trap/drill music . We love it but it’s very detrimental for us🤷🏾‍♂️💯

Watching from Granada in the Caribbean

@jasonboothe1906

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for locking in from the islands!

Great documentary!

THIS IS INCREDIBLE... THANK U FOR YOUR BRILLIANT WORK KING... ALSO THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE GREAT MIGRATION

Also... as a complete outsider who has had a similar experience. .. this kind of reminds me of the infighting in feminism between very hardcore feminists and women who embrace motherhood and stereotypically "feminine" roles (I am one). I caught a lot of flack for "embracing the oppression"... but I actually ENJOY being a wife and a mother, and while I fully support women being able to choose their path in life, I actually WANT this. I kinda see Tyler's struggle with Spike like that. Spike is going "You're representing all Black people poorly" and Tyler's going "Dude, can't I just represent MYSELF?" Tyler's not saying "this is EVERY black experience" he's saying "this is A black experience".... although when he points out that white cultures don't police ourselves the way black people do when it comes to representation in the media.... he's kind of glossing over the fact that black people have only gotten control over how they are represented within the past 50 years,so of course a there's going to be a certain expectation of responsibility some people are going to weigh on those who have that platform.

@athunderfan

11 ай бұрын

must say as someone who is very much on Spike's side of the debate you make a very good point with that analogy.

I think that Spike does not articulate himself well because he comments with emotion. This subject is serious & personal to him. I think that "in a nutshell ", what he is trying to say that any comedian or comedic actor could have made or come close to making the money Tyler Perry has off of the Madea character & franchise. Any African American would have no problem getting all of those type projects "greenlit". Whether it was Nutty Proffesor, Big Mamma's house or any other role with a man dressed as a woman, the creator's of the aforementioned could continue to make content under those franchises but made a conscious decision to stop. That is the difference.

As I’ve said before and I’ll say it again, Tyler Perry is no Chaplin(1889-1977), Murphy, Lawrence, MJ(1958-2009) or Peele. His work has not United people or talked about issues that effect all humans not just some.

Love this !

I respect both men and cherish both of their work. 💯🎉❤

We can have both. Both brothers create jobs and opportunities for many other black people. They have different views. Tyler played the part and is now in a position to win on a different level.

It’s all type of black people we love them both 👌🏽 but I likes spikes movies better

I am in agreement with Spike Lee’s side of the argument. Having said that, I don’t begrudge Mr Perry’s success, I just never found the humor in his work just embarrassment. It wasn’t for me.

I am not a fan of spike lee as a person but, I can respect him for his filmography. The man is a legned till, the end. Tyler perry is a legned in his own way but at what direction service to white Supremecy.

@stevewinwood9645

Жыл бұрын

Spike lee sold out too.them weak ass movies.its parts of the hood he can't go to because of those wack ass movies.people started hating him for all the fake outs.

Seems to me like spike never said Tyler directly. But they say a hit dog gonna holla.

The two should make a "dramedy" together about the Black Migration - an urban Brooklyn family attends a family reunion in the South from where grandparents emigrated. Spike sorta touched on this theme in Crooklyn.

@stevewinwood9645

Жыл бұрын

Crookyn was shit.

@dbettis6477

Жыл бұрын

How can that happen when all Perry does is disrespect black man, and wanna dress up like women

@lizadye

Жыл бұрын

👀

Thank you. This was well out together. Lee and Perry are trailblazers. I understand Lee's criticisms. Both directors have made great films.

dope vid..

The fact white people back Tyler Perry and Oprah I know it’s bad for us. If Tyler can get Denzel in a movie I’ll listen to his side

I’d like to see them work together.

There is place for every honest and talented person. I like them both 🤷‍♀️

Spike Lee wins hands down. Better writing. Better acting. Better scores. Better cinematography. Spike Lee is a bonafide auteur. I’m honestly unsure if Perry’s dramas are intended to be satire. The over the top dialogue and acting make me wonder if it’s intentionally bad.

Collab would be absolutely brilliant

Spike Creates art. I’ve never watched a Tyler Perry movie.

@ndcmt1609

4 ай бұрын

You’re not missing anything

Hands down spike lee was better in directing and producing

I love them both..... please come together and start something bigger than ever for blacks film wise!!!!

@towannahenson9157

Жыл бұрын

That is to much like right.

@damongipson-dg8pc

9 ай бұрын

Not gone happen to much egos that like saying faith Evans vs Mary j Blige undisputed queen of hip hop soul

@ndcmt1609

4 ай бұрын

@@damongipson-dg8pcnot even close of a comparison. It’s not the same.

I like the "Air Jordan 4" sneaker/kick enthusiast, Mars Blackmon (aka NY-bred legendary filmmaker, Spike Lee). It's the Shoes ! Tyler Perry, like Oprah (Winfrey), has created an ATL media (tv show/film) studio empire. Different Strokes (with characters like a "Madea") for Different Folks: it is like a Menu at a Restaurant. 31 Flavors (of Ice Cream) for everybody; it depends on what you like (preferences). To each his/her own. There is room on the dinner table for both of these cats. Spike Lee's "Bamboozled" (2000) and/or Robert Townsend's "Hollywood Shuffle (1987)" both comes to my mind; on the latter, I was thinking about the realistic "Black Acting School" skit.

SPIKE LEE IS THE MASTER MAN WHO SEES THE PLAN

Grateful for single one

One brother preaches strength and black excellence. The other one sells a stereotype of black people

I enjoy them all equally.

Let me be clear, we all possesse 'FREE ... WILL 😮 IT is 'UP' to each of US❤❣️💔💰⌚

Tyler Perry is great. He gets shit for making warm feel good films which uplift Lee is an angry little man who has been a millionaire sitting courtside at Knicks games but still pretends to be an outsider God Bless Tyler A good man who knows how to make you feel good

I'm For Spike... Do the Right Thing T.P.

I’ve always admired spike Lee for his brilliant work but Tyler Perry, well you know where I’m going with that.

Spike Lee movies are progressive whilst Tyler is just comedy that is outdated

There is room for both because they have very different approaches to film and writing. Tyler has a souther. POV and Spike Lee definitely has a northern black experience Brooklyn point of view. Two very different black experiences.

Naw man, you’re lying Tyler Perry. There has been some Italians that have complained about being portrayed as being part of the mafia

Alas; U R The Dark & The Light: In troubled times the image matters. They will either use yr image to destroy or exhort u. 4 looks can deceive. But yr culture must b the definite underlining defining characteristic of yr art works. 4 yr past, present & future will manifest of it. stand strong. stand obedient. stay tuned. love. learn. evolve. peace&goodwill. TT".

Madea is no different than Martin Lawrence's Big Mama or Eddie Murphy's Clumps (Nutty Professor). This was not a worthy criticism on Spikes part. But, he is entitled to his opinion.

@christopherfarley372

Жыл бұрын

I think that Spike does not articulate himself well because he comments with emotion. This subject is serious & personal to him. I think that "in a nutshell ", what he is trying to say that any comedian or comedic actor could have made or come close to making the money Tyler Perry has off of the Madea character & franchise. Any African American would have no problem getting all of those type projects "greenlit". Whether it was Nutty Proffesor, Big Mamma's house or any other role with a man dressed as a woman, the creator's of the aforementioned could continue to make content under those franchises but made a conscious decision to stop. That is the difference.

@Hoodeeman

4 ай бұрын

That is coonery, isn't it. But instead of a male blackface they are doing a female blackface( jeezabel, mammy etc) without the paint.

Does Tyler ever help anyone make it?

@IkennaKonkwo2-lz8lj

4 ай бұрын

He doesn’t even have writers.

The greatest Black film I've ever seen is "King George" so powerful they had to cancel Will Smith!

Both of these black male film makers pretty much started out the same way, WITH NOTHING!!! There are differences, yes, but they started out from the floor/ground UP!!! Now, black men have waged war against Tyler Perry movies (films) because they say they "DON'T LIKE how they're portrayed in his movies (films)!!!!!" And I don't know why???? Black men are probably 10 times worse than how Tyler Perry portrays them in his films!!!!!! The TRUTH is the TRUTH!!! Today, the black man is TOTALLY UNRECOGNIZABLE!!!! He has NO RESPECT for women!!! I have LITTLE RESPECT for the (my) black man!!! I did 600 years AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I feel this way towards the black man TODAY because of his ACTIONS TOWARDS ME AS A BLACK WOMAN!!!

They need to do another take on a definitive Muhammad Ali biopic with Spike Ali at the helm. Because that 2001 film was a mess.

Well for me, Tyler Perry never or maybe stopped doing it for me when i considered whether I'm laughing at black people or with? Whether yiu like Spike's films or not, you can't say he added to the negative perceptions of black people, even when he showed the ugly side.

At least Spike Lee didn't have to put a dress and make up on to become famous.

Tavastock Institute!! Not sure about the spelling..

Tyler is an industry plant

Cash Rules Everything Around Me

@IkennaKonkwo2-lz8lj

4 ай бұрын

C.R.E.A.M. Get the money. Dolla, Dolla bill y’all.

Spike provided positive characteristics of negativity and Perry pushed the negativity and sold his ppl out with constant negative views and out comes of black people.

I've said it before. Spike is all about Blackness. His artistic abilities are hindered by that. Don't get me wrong, he has done fantastic works. But, as a director, his concentrating ingredient is black. The art is the challenge and the beauty. Perry? Outside of the Madea, he has hurt black america. Madea was just stupid fun with an honest message. "Why did I get married," says it all, and did so much bad. It confused the already confused...which is us. Spike never confused us.

I’ve related to John singleton movies never those fairy tales Tyler makes

they want to put a man in a dress they will give you anything to put a Man down

This is silly! Society always pits blacks against each other. As if we can only have one "hot" black at a time. When is the last time they pitted two white men against each other? Johnny Depp beefing with Matt Damon? Never, because Hollywood can have 83 hot white actors. That's fine.

Now get this. Tyler Perry has made because he degrades his people. As long as he degrade his people with all the drag dressing and homosexuality of our men, and the clowning of black Wombmen he will always be on top. Hollyweird will make sure Perry will be on top. This is what so many don’t see. Hollyweird doesn’t want the positivity of my people aka black people. That’s will my people. As long as my people degrade each other in film and music, the matrix industry will make sure their successful and what’s working. Tyler tells spike he can go to hell🔥☄️ well I’d like to to ask him Does he think our Divine Almighty MostHigh Yah is pleased with his work and pleased with what he does when the cameras 🎥 and mics🎤 aren’t on him? Spike isn’t no perfect individual however, he is about the truth of our people and his doesn’t put out garbage 🗑

@stevewinwood9645

Жыл бұрын

Spike puts out nothing but garbage and his movies promotes Hellenistic/African matriarchy concepts and has vast gay undertones.also he always has the black man in America holding hands and joining forces with heathens and down on their luck slave traders.please stop it.

@leroyhill7117

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with this statement

I always hated Tyler Perry’s movies

also tyler is the meaning of getting it out the mud , he did do everything himself SPIKE went to a pw and got put on by a white its all good though justdont tare your own people down yo

Tyler Perry made better movies than Spike Lee.

Spike was right on this one BUT never tare a BLACK MAN DOWN TO A yt

I never thought Tyler Perry stuff was funny or lessons within it. It's stereotypical. Spikes stuff is like The Cosby's , Different World, classy and hits upon real issues... only Spike needs to be mad at black folks, not Tyler. This is America, it's about the mighty $.I could never finish watching a Tyler Perry movie... it's obnoxious! Go figure!

Tyler Perry was known for acting like a woman, Spike Lee was known for exposing Rosie Perez breasts.

@IkennaKonkwo2-lz8lj

4 ай бұрын

Spike Lee is known for more than that.

@theoffdutyuberdriver2537

4 ай бұрын

@@IkennaKonkwo2-lz8lj True. I'm not knocking Spike.

Im with spike 💪🏿 😎 but they both feed blac acts