I can smell the panic from here.

@HubNut

11 ай бұрын

However, I do not miss that insufferable beep.

@janmortensen9314

11 ай бұрын

ah the subtle dig

@menditman2004

11 ай бұрын

Boys with there toys trying to zoop up there Citroen family cars 😂🙂👍

@kezhawks

11 ай бұрын

A change of under crackers required 😂😅....

@whatidid9764

11 ай бұрын

As someone who works in IT I totally feel your pain on this. Apply update, oh Shite the server won’t reboot… roll back and pray 😭 I really did laugh watching this #subscribed

The immediate panic as a technician after doing ECU/engine work and it doesn't start is unmatched by anything else

@neodonkey

11 ай бұрын

Oh I'm not sure. Try the panic when you're working on a router that connects thousands of people to the internet, you make a quick change and the shell prompt immediately freezes...

@MysteriousFigure

11 ай бұрын

@@neodonkey Basically any piece of important IT gear when you make a network change and you suddenly lose the connection to it, especially if it is eons away....

@Zeem4

11 ай бұрын

@@neodonkey Or wiping a member of senior management's computer to reinstall the OS, then later on that person says they can't find any of their files, and I'm thinking I didn't back the files up correctly and lost them all. I didn't sleep or eat properly for five days. Turns out that all the files were in OneDrive all along, but he'd been accessing it via a shortcut which wasn't present on the reinstalled computer, and he hadn't know where else to look.

@neodonkey

11 ай бұрын

@@Zeem4 Oh Bro I feel ya on that one!

@fredscratchet1355

11 ай бұрын

How about updating the software on a barcode scanner in a major multinational company automated warehouse and shutting the whole site down? Luckily you have the option to make it temporary or permanent, it was a given that you always chose temporary and if it worked then go permanent. As my phone was about to burst into flames I backed out and it all booted up again! I lied through my teeth and told the warehouse manager I accidentaly caught an e stop. Oops.🥵

I used to have a tuning company and wrote my own maps. I still have a lot of old equipment. I spent a lot of time unbricking ECUs had tried mapping. If you need any help or have any questions I'm happy to help you. I'm guessing that the sw number didn't fully match if it's a Bosch edc15 or 16 it'll start 10373 but all numbers have to match and the same with the HW. Also on some French cars you have to take a separate read of the injector codes and reprogram at the end.

absolute rollercoaster 🤣 "if it ain't broke, tinker"

@1marcelfilms

10 ай бұрын

me in my garage 99% of the time

Let this be a cautionary tale to anyone out there thinking of buying a rolling road, a laptop, and a 512,000-mile Citroen Picasso. We've all been there, standing on the edge, credit card and spare pantaloons in hand. You, sir, have saved us.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

It's a familiar set of circumstances, I agree. I bet I'm not the first.

After the excitement of the rolling road, this was almost too much, now subbed. Brought back not so fond memories of bricking a Pug 306 ECU within my first week at a dealer, only to be told they were properly sketchy anyway. A mixture of kinship, comedy, sympathy and the desire to prevent me literally pissing myself laughing.

“One pair of pants later”…….😂😂😂

tempted to buy a 53 plate picasso just to make you relive it all over again ;)

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

That's just mean

I've bricked one Smart Fortwo... the owner bought a zip file of tuning files off ebay for like 6€ and wanted to try them out. None of them worked right and finally "let's try this one and if it doesn't work we'll put the stock one back" bricked it 😅

This channel is amazing! Subbed! love a high mileage hero

Great vid and channel. When you started the second flash and started rotating the laptop I couldn't look! Proper brown trouser moment.

As someone who's also mucked about on a laptop with an old PSA car, i can fully relate basically shitting myself trying to activate cruise control and then my instrument cluster having a mental breakdown, if anything went wrong, i just assumed I'd fried it and the panic is real. Please try to remap it again, perhaps with a different map or going to a remapper or something but fully understand if not after that experience

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I only tried because I had it (and I knew it worked well on my old one). If it doesn't work on this one (and it doesn't, I tried a few times the next day) then so be it. It would have been a bonus, that's all.

Wow... I was really with you in that, I could feel the pain. Glad it could be reverted!

In tonight’s episode Englishman soils himself, whilst a Welshman wets himself laughing after much mocking from said Englishman who is now outside burning said soiled pants 😂

Marvellous! Well done!

good job you did a backup. glad it worked again.

Yet another entertaining episode on the UpnDown channel. After the 1-0 dyno-match between Picasso and Berlingo Hubnut probably figures, having watched this clip, he scored the equalizer in extra time😁 Still: glad you managed to erase the faulty remap.

Just a little whoopsie then💩 😱. Thank god you had the foresight to copy the original file. Brilliant video 👏👍

Brilliant content 👍

Thank you for showing us what brown pant fear looks like, Rich 😂 Cracking vid that 👌

send the downloaded\backup file to a tuner\map supplier. they will then modify that file a send back, rather than sending a generic one which wont work on modern cars if the bin contain immo data.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

This map is actually for a Picasso HDI with that ECU, it's just that it was written specifically for my old car, and I suspect there's something in it preventing it from being used on other cars. Either that, or the ECUs aren't actually as identical as I thought!

@2kcars507

11 ай бұрын

immo data possibly. Assuming you didn't use Windows to look at the .bin file because it will kibosh binary files.

Now that's what a call tense content. Turning that key. Phew!

Great content

Well that was scary.... At least you got the sweet relief of it starting after all that 😂

Well on the plus side. ,you nearly got out of doing those sills

You lucky, lucky, lucky boy! That really could have been very bad indeed.

I feel that next time @HubNut visits you, he’ll bring the gift of a limited edition pair of “Power Less is More” Pants.

Lmao this reminds me so much of when me and my mate were first trying to remap saabs, the pure panic when any unexpected dialog box comes up

Feel you Dude...we've all been there.

We were all bricking it with you!

I watched this with bated breath - I've done many firmware updates to kit both personally and professionally and the sheer tension whilst you watch that progress bar is ALWAYS like this. To me, it's a poor design of software that doesn't offer to back up the existing firmware before uploading the new version, so kudos to you for making a backup prior. This also resonates personally because at the moment, my BMW is having its CAS cloned, having been identified as the source of intermittent shutdowns.

Ive been there, while trying to remap my own car. Ive successfully bricked two ecu's. Did manage to learn it, eventually :D

Panic is brown, and all the more brown when it’s not your car. What a lucky boy, your backup saved the day.

Proper T.V. quality production rich 👏👏👏

Nice bit of "Palming" coming off the rollers there 😉

The Beep Beep outro is perfect.

In other news, I see someone at NASA JPL has accidentally uploaded the wrong command to the Voyager 2 probe (current location: outside the Solar System). This has caused it to point away from the earth, and it will now be impossible to talk to it, until (possibly) October, when the spacecraft *might* automatically turn itself off and on again. Just saying. Dunno why that sprang to mind...

@NothingToSeeHere73

11 ай бұрын

I wonder if a high temperature warning will be its next communication?

@Dan23_7

11 ай бұрын

Is that true ? Because if it, that’s hilarious. If it isn’t true, it’s still a hilarious story.

'Kinell! I was sweating watching that! If it ain't broke don't mend it.😂😂

This was highly entertaining- thanks Kitch. Too bad 120.wasn't possible today. Time to regroup and try again another day. And at the end of the day, Picasso beat @Hubnut

I had a similar issue years ago trying this on a 607 2.2 HDi i tried to use a 406 2.2 remap file assuming since it was the same engine and bosch ecu the maps would be the same but sadly no. Not sure if there are further subtleties in the code that forms the file to differentiate it between the two cars but just had to upload the standard file back on.

Reminds me of when I reset my then rather old Apple phone and half the apps disappeared because iTunes had updated with incompatible updates. Luckily I had stores of the old apps on an old back up disc. Phew! Scary thought is how easily manufacturers can kill off cars in the future. No software update. No go!

@6chhelipilot

11 ай бұрын

Or how easy it is to give you an over-the-air update that you definitely didn't want.

Well, that was a suspenseful 10 minutes. I have started breathing again, though.

UPnDOWN " look at the power hubnut" Hub nut " look at my sills"

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

😆

That was scary! 😱

If ‘Siemens’ makes you giggle. I posses a document issued by the DFT called a ‘Seamen’s Discharge Book’. Giggerty.

@craigmclean8260

11 ай бұрын

"I thought you could use more seamen on your poop-deck..."--Peter Griffin

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

That's not giggle-worthy, it's full-blown chortle!

That's just sort of thing that I would do. Phew!

MANY MANY POOS CAME OUT *said in Clarksons voice 😂

I bought a non genuine Citroen flip key from a locksmith for my old C3. £165 cut and cloned to start and lock. It would start but couldn't get it to remote lock. After going through 2 replacement keys and £95 in programming credits... they had and idea and it worked. I'm now the proud owner of a fancy Audi flip key 😕

I did that to my 2007 Mk2 C5 facelift, fortunately I saved the old data to, never used the lexia again, I sold it to Pleiades Citroen specialists in Sawtry Cambridgeshire😂 he now uses it to fix peugeots. I feel your pain mate.

Moral: backup, then backup the backups....

Quitting after just ONE unsuccessful attempt? HA! 😅

It's done as many miles as there are bytes in the BIN.

Would love to see what my C5 V6 still makes on a rolling road

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Harder to do with an auto on a rolling road. Wheel figure is accurate, but the flywheel figures can be a bit far out.

Nobody likes a quitter. 😄 I seriously hope you're going to try again, once the ABS light has gone out. 🤔

Gosh - reassuring to see that everyone has bad moments. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, even myself!

Immobiliser? Was the ECU after reflashing expecting an ignition key transponder from the old Picasso?

Pride goes before a what's it!

I've never felt that tension watching KZread ever before...

Lucky you.

What you should absolutely do i back up the original map.

@rimmersbryggeri

11 ай бұрын

And not create fake jeopardy.. :P LOL

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Nothing fake there, I genuinely forgot I'd done it for a minute!

@rimmersbryggeri

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I know. But had it been on TV though.

So funny. 😂

I want my old berlingo back so bad.

been there if you havent saved the old file but happy days phew

That is pretty much my day job, murdering and then un-murdering cars. I feel your pain

I wouldn't mind my S2 Xantia HDI 90 being poked up a bit! Couple of problems though, it needs a clutch, I have a clutch but it needs fitting, I'm unable to drive it down to you due to domestic circumstances but, if you and hubnut want a joint project / adventure and he is willing to collect it from Worcester and drive to you, I'm up for it! I'd pay you to fit the clutch, oh and hubnut would need to drive it back to Redditch, don't ask, it's complicated! Actually, it needs a drivers side window lifter to! And the aircon is awol!

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

You're probably better off using someone near you, to be fair!

@turboslag

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN There is no one I can trust around here. I would do it myself if I had the facilities and time available, I did before I became carer for my mum. No worries, it was just a thought.

Phew that was a close call. Definitely brown pants moment.

the wifes 306 hdi has been mapped for 10 years emailed original bin file to hdi tuning and uploaded the new file from them to the car in 5 mins you get two files one with egr delete and one without

Yep. Leave that to specialists.

If you remapped it when new it probably wouldnt have reached 512k.... I'm speaking from experience! Ex Aston Martin, Prodrive and McLaren engineer speaking as well as a history of road vehicles I've tweaked. Remapping can work very well and feel fantastic to drive but the vast majority of the time there are unwanted feedback effects in the long run. A period of time where it feels fantastic and you wonder why the OEM didn't make it this way to begin with. You hear bullshit stories all the time. But the number of remaps I've seen blow turbos, gaskets, burn piston heads and valves after 50k miles is unreal. I won't type and essay here but some engines take it OK, others less so but if you want maximum mileage, leave it stock. That's the best advice I can give! One of the most robust and reliable engines I've worked on is the Toyota 1KD-FTV (3 litre diesel, used in older Hilux and Land Cruiser models). Some 30 to 40 horsepower less than equivalent sized engines from competitors like Ford and roughly the same output as the higher spec VW Amarok on only 2 litres., A full 1,000cc less than the Toyota. But from experience it will outlast all of them. Comfortably. If left alone and well maintained. That said, the Taliban and ISIS use these engines in their Hiluxes with 50 cal machine guns on the back through the hot dusty desert (you never see them using Defenders or Rangers do you?!) and I'm pretty sure they're not respecting the manufacturer's service intervals.....

If you have a good copy, that means you can try another frash 👀

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Yeah nah, I'm gonna leave it!

Do you use Winols or similar to alter the ECU parameters, or does your software have car specific presets?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

It was a pre-written map by a well-known tuner. Worked very nicely in my my old Picasso, I suspect it's just not suitable for this one.

I'm guessing used an old FGtech V54 Galletto? If it starts after original write, Your problem is Chksum or bad map, Same HW & SW?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Galletto 1260

Always save original map first with the reg number

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

I did, luckily.

You saved the 512000 mile Picasso from its near death experience

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

And nearly put it through another...

@lesklower7281

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN You dodged a bullet

I used to work for a lovely company and we were briefly taken over by Siemens..... I know what you mean! After 5 years they sold us on, minus all our best technology with a proviso we could not compete (with our own developed technology!) for another 5 years. Not a pleasant experience, oh yes they took our final salary pensions off us as well.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

So we should laugh at them and their silly name after all?

@fredscratchet1355

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN definitely 🤣

I hope you gave the driver's seat a good scrub after that!!!

When I update the mapping on my Tomtom satnav it starts by deleting the old maps, so if anything goes wrong on the download you have nothing. The download normally takes well over an hour.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

TomToms! I remember those!

That looks like the old Southways Automotive workshop? Did you take over after they finished?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Erm....it's still the Southways Automotive workshop 😆

@humourless682

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Thought they used to do mainly race car type stuff?

£8k is the most costly 'electrical mistake' I have made, you got off lightly... 😢

Talk about going HubNut! Ian, stop laughing.

haha ecu goes brrr

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

😆

Best thrill ever seen… 💥🤖👾👽☠️💩💥

Crumbs, that was close. Next time wear bicycle clips, I can smell it from here. Other than that, I enjoyed the video . . . thanks

A mate of mine could remap it for you, he did my beetle a few weeks ago 👌🏼👍🏼

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Honestly not worth the aggro, it was just a quick thing that would have been nice if it worked. I already had it, it's not like I bought it specially.

@Dan23_7

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN years ago I remapped a 2.0 hdi pug 306 by downloading my ecu file, I sent it away and it came back all fancy. Same engine, they’re bombproof I had a 2.0 hdi in a pug partner van too, I had that remapped by protec performance near Blackpool. It Fkin flew after it 😂 Probably best to keep the Picasso standard and reliable.

That's why you map a separate chip

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, it worked fine on my old Picasso, just not this one.

Luckily you don't have a PO Box, you may have had a pair of emergency pants sent to you..... That was quite tense to watch if you had killed the Picasso but it lives another day to boast about its power to a certain Berlingo!

You could try one of those tuning boxes that intercepts the signal between the ecu and the common rail pressure sensor and modifies it.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I did see one of those actually improve a Golf, but it's normally still a bodge

@fredscratchet1355

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I fitted one to a 115bhp Fiat Multipla which boosted it to about 125bhp with only a touch of black smoke. It surprised a few Beemers at the lights.

It is wasp revenge 😆

Good job you keep a change of underwear in the workshop 😂

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

For moments like this.

Id say checksum hasnt been redone with the mapped ecu Also su ecu once brucked can be dine via bootmode

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

The map was one written for my old Picasso, which I thought would be the same as this one. That's where I went wrong!

Is it possible the existing abs fault code caused it to fair?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Nah, that was just a surface code

So you can do this to any car with a certain type of ECU right? So could you take my 9-3 up from 210hp to something more?

@CableWrestler

11 ай бұрын

Normally the EDC15 type ECUs. Power depends on mods though. You'll run out of fuel first normally on a turbo charged engine. It does depend on every engine type though. Basically, you can't take a 90bhp car and map it to 210 without supporting mods

@tonybarden8563

11 ай бұрын

google saabnoob your 9-3 can do 210 if its the 150/175 model or 250 if its the aero 210 model

@Sid3300

11 ай бұрын

@@tonybarden8563 Aero 2.0T so probably 250

@tonybarden8563

11 ай бұрын

@@Sid3300 yeah 250+ it's a good increase in the torque band as well,saabnoob is very well respected in the Saab UK community

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I had a 9-3 1.8t (150bhp standard) with a Hirsch remap (ran 182bhp on the dyno). Apparently 210bhp was in reach, as the engines were all nearly the same, it just needed the additional Aero bits.

Phew! Never do anything irreversible, eh?

Oops!

I'm very happy that I have you to make questionable decisions, so that I can make other questionable decisions instead.

What was the reason it didn't work if it's same ECU and same engine?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Must be a different version of the software on the ECU, or possibly an earlier variation of it.

I think if I had a dyno handy, I would get very little else done...

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I did dyno literally anything I could get my hands on for the first few months it was in the ground.

@arnonmus1

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Including Clement?

I still think you need to remap it - just for fun!

Today I learned two things: 1) don't remap my Picasso 2) what the hypothetical offspring of Daniel Radcliffe, Zach Galifianakis and Robert "Aging Wheels" Dunne would look like. 😜

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

I will take that.

😂❤