I'm not sulking. Honest.

@mrcogginsgarage7062

11 ай бұрын

What not even a little bit ?... Seriously it's good to see you back from your holidays.

@volt8684

11 ай бұрын

That’s one of worst berlingos on u tube😁soz but true

@GadgetMart

11 ай бұрын

Bellas broken - has the engine number been checked? Looking like a 1.6hdi 75

@GadgetMart

11 ай бұрын

The ironic thing is you wouldn’t buy the bullet proof 1.9d I suggested as it ‘only’ had 70bhp

@squeakers27

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, Bella has been poorly lately and might not be fully back up to its best since all that was done to bella was some egr cleaner spray and might have not been serviced as well by it's previous owners. But as long as she runs alright to drive 👍

I had a Zafira with 330,000 miles on it, it looked like 60.000 inside and out but then it was a German built one, sadly it had ALL of the common Vauxhall faults of perished rubber pipes and rotting cheapo wiring and was a royal pain in the backside, I eventually sorted it all then got shot of it because I'd had enough and couldn't trust it anymore. The super high mileage badge of honour is mostly a painful one. Great video content though :)

@mickeyneo4228

10 ай бұрын

vauxhall is opel, opel is german just in the head of people now. and is not good quality

@bmc9504

10 ай бұрын

I've got an 2005 vauxhall Corsa, new battery premium battery and new alternator...... The lights still flicker with the acceleration on and off. Nightmare. The wiring is a mess, originally I'd lose all power steering with low RPMs.

@arandomelk8559

10 ай бұрын

My dad has a 2001 with about 300.000kms, so far its holding up quite well but this stuff does not sound good about whats to come

@ilovesheryterry

10 ай бұрын

All the German quality nonsense that ends up in every opel being a nightmare?

@zzoinks

10 ай бұрын

@@bmc9504 does it have anything to do with the ground connection?

here's a possibility for the difference in power, as far as I could tell from other videos, the Picasso was mostly used for motorway driving & ran for longer at optimum running temperature so the EGR & Cat are operating more efficiently more of the time, versus a car that doesn't get warmed through as much & just clogs up with soot which I suspect is the case with Bella the Berlingo

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

Bella likely is quite clogged up, indeed. Might be other stuff as well, but thats the first thing to check.

@HA05GER

11 ай бұрын

Coukd even be blanked off

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Definitely think that's why the Picasso is in such rude health.

@davidelliott5843

11 ай бұрын

My Fiat Panda 1.3 JTD broke its cam chain at 130,000. The engine was clogged with soot (thanks EGR) so it’s had a full top end rebuild including piston rings and turbo. All bearings and bores were good.

@HA05GER

11 ай бұрын

@@davidelliott5843 if you plan on keeping the car have it blanked off. I've done it in my car as was cause a bit of hesitation and glad to know it's not clogging up the intake anymore.

My last XM had a claimed output of 141hp and 225nm when new, when it was at around 370'000km i got it dynoed (with measuring the drivetrain/wheel etc. drag to get a more accurate result) and it came out with 156hp and somewhere around 240 or 245nm, i was pretty surprised to say the least, even tho i heard that these 2.0 Turbo engines liked to produce more than what they claimed to make. (and also we need to see what the Picasso does with the remap file now)

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, thats a bit too much to be because of "wearing in". As far as I know, thats gives a couple of horsepower at the most, and not compared to the factory specs, but for an individual car is dynoed right off the line at 0 miles, compared to at 200 000kms. So in your case it was because of too low factory claims for sure.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I've found the turbo CT actually struggles on the dyno (one of the only PSA cars that has done) but then there are two specs - one 135-140bhp, and another 150bhp (as used in Xantia Activa) so it could be you had the later type?

@aaaabababa

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN i had the earlier type, the one with 141PS, 225nm that was only used in the early 605 and XM's

The half a million mile Picasso.... He can remap it... He has the technology......... From. Now on it will be known as Steve The Picasso.....

@GreyTheFloydianSergal

11 ай бұрын

gotta be Ronnie surely

I'd LOVE to see that AX GT! Fond memories of such a FUN car...

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I don't have much, I just have some footage of it on the rolling road.

Yes, please show us the AX. My first AX took me all the way to Italy (and back!) and I really loved that little car!

That look when the remap file is mentioned 😆

I'd love to see the AX GT!

And there’s me with a 2004 1.5 diesel clio on 223,000 miles and I thought that was high mileage! 😂

Never seen before, but this is funny and entertaining. Subscribed!!

Change your oil regularly and it will last😊

@19jacobob93

4 ай бұрын

I saw one of these have no oil changes in 50,000km, still running perfectly to this day 😅 very strong engines

Great video, very informative and entertaining

This car keeps on delivering. Great video. Long time ago I wanted to check the state of health of the Xantia 1.8 16v, running on LPG, I had at that time. Didn't do a dyno-test but a compression-test instead. The engine proved to be very healthy allthough it had done "only" 360.000 km.

@Messergebnis-liebhaber

3 ай бұрын

What do you mean by ONLY 360.000 kms?

Great video, thanks very much. As you say, testimony to what a bit of ongoing tlc can do with a car.

Ill be honest, I liked and subscribe soon as I saw the Ronnie Pickering video. Enjoyed the rest of the video.good vid ❤

Still regret selling mine 20 years ago, thought it was on it’s last legs and then over 10 years later it drove out of the industrial unit next to the garage that was doing my car’s MOT, looking and sounding absolutely bloody great!

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Ouch!

@allosaurusfragilis7782

10 ай бұрын

I did this with my old puma...fuel tank wax about to fall out with rust etc. So I traded it in with them. 10 years later, they were still using that puma. ...but I didn't use the garage again, so they lost custom.

I'm leaving a comment because I want to see that. If anyone doesn't love an AX they're wrong.

awesome video 👌🏻

YES! That remapped Picasso was bloody brilliant (until I buggered the gearbox) It surprised more than one "fast" car in the traffic light grand prix, leaving them in a cloud of black smoke! #PassThePicasso deserves to be mapped.

My grandad has an '06 Berlingo 1.4i with 340,000 kilometers. These french cars have very well put together powertrains it's always the rest of the car that disintegrates first.

WOOT This is like an Ol' school double bill matinee!

I worked for citroen when mk 1 was launched and was still there after mk 2 was made and ended up owning a 2.0 hdi exclusive we sold loads of them they was incredibly cheap for what u got for your money. I never once heard a customer regret buying theirs they was incredibly reliable minor stuff but not one engine or gearbox failure one thing I would say they made 2 different powered 2.0 hdi in same model I can't remember exact amount but one was over 100bhp if i remember rightly around 110 to 115bhp the other around 90+(mine was the lower powered version) so depending which one u have its either lost a tiny amount or gained slightly, however amazing result either way for a car of those miles it doesn't really surprise me as they was great cars (ok maybe a bit, 500000 is a hell of a lot), the car that really changed citreon to what they are today I loved mine lovely to drive massive inside cheap to run I still miss it to be honest according to last MOT it was also still on the road up to 2022

I had the 18L, its a great little car, very practical.

Show us the AX, come on!

Yes! Please show me the AX!

Great video, great sense of humour you have 😂

Very entertaining and educational; I did not know that power could actually go up, vs. down, w/ a well-cared-for, well-worn engine...I had to see this video (and subscribe, and no, I'm not a 'bot!), after watching Mr. HubNut's "frown of shame" w/ Bella at 78 (sorry...77) BHP...or was that PS? PK? Gerbils per hamster wheel...? Much more fun than replacing sills ("...I, uhh, I've run out of metal...")

For a 2.0 HDI Citroen engine, a mileage of 508,000 miles is half of his life 💪In countries with high culture, such as Germany or Belgium, cars are operated in a different way. On that market, cars have high mileage. In the UK, no one cares about the car, incorrect engine maintenance and rare oil changes kill these engines

@volt8684

11 ай бұрын

Plenty in scrapyards at much less

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Accurate, sadly.

The final look, away from camera, is masterly. Thank you for entertainment. (BTW, how wd you test an automatic on the dynothing? No neutral, or clutch?)

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I'm clearly wasting my time as a mechanic. I should be an hacktor.

I'm surprised that you don't have a use for the dyno, given your TVR interests ... Great video, happy to see you with Hubnut earlier - both good videos, but your humour came across more in this video

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

TVRs are terrible on dynos. They often don't get near their quoted power figures!

You have to keep your rolling road!! What a USP for Your youtube channel and you business!

Amazing (SUSCRIBED)...Greetings from Barcelona SPAIN

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome

Richard, this is an interesting insight into power and torque losses with high mileage diesels. I suspect that both my Volvo XC90 and Mercedes C200 will still make close to book power. They're both diesel powered, are well maintained and have high mileages (if you put them both together it is still less than the Picasso) so I wouldn't expect much of a loss on a dyno. I used to own a Xsara Picasso myself and the sills are made of tinfoil but I suspect that you already knew this.

16:04 of course we want to see it. When i worked for Peugeot/Citroën in the 80's AX GT and GTIs where great cars to thrash around the Lake District....the best car for those roads though wasnt them, nor was it the 205 GTI but the far lighter and better road holding Visa GTI.... just ugly as sin 😂 My own car was a Y reg Mk1 MG Turbo, back in the days they where just cars and we thrashed them soundly like they deserved!

To me... the 2.0hdi is the best diesel engine ever. I have never owned one, but have worked with them in citroen and volkswagen dealers i've been in, and have seen a few PSA 2.0hdi over 1.000.000 km on them and still running strong. Mostly on early Picasso models as well or Xsara break.

@yasser9350

10 ай бұрын

You are tripping my friend 😂 good thing that you mentionned you never owned one They are a real piece of 💩 dont be fooled by the milage this one is a unicorne they break all time and are known to overheat Peugeot never made a reliable engin within theire +100 years in the business they are more on the innovation side but reliability is not a french thing

Just brilliant 👏👍

Another great and informative Rich, remember owning two diesel Skoda's that surprised, first my Fabia VRS which book figure was 130bhp, totally standard before produced 152.7bhp, another Skoda diesel a lowly 1.4 tdi with a book figure of 80bhp produced 90bhp. A mini 1.4 which had the PSA Prince engine produced slightly over book figures. Would love to take my Cactus on the rollers to see what it produces as its meant to be 82bhp but i am fairly certain its a lowly 75bhp thats been mislabled by the selling dealer in 2016 as it feels totally gutless compared to my other car a 1.0 Fabia MPi.

@harrylee833

10 ай бұрын

that prince engine was a co-development between bmw and psa, they are awful… all the bits that bmw designed tend to go wrong hideously

What Hub nut should now is get the compete EGR system cleaned out and remapped for 110 bhp like his will not damage the engine and make it 100% more driveable

Drove a 1.8 petrol as a loaner and I liked it 😊

Had my 56 Reg 1.6HDI 16V Berlingo Van from brand new, had it mapped to 120 bhp from new and it still pulls like a train. The EGR is electrical and all I did was disconnect it she never smoked and still doesn't, never been any trouble ever. 119,000 miles

about 30 seconds into the video and already subscribed 🤣 bloody funny already

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

Very kind, thanks!

This is so interesting, my neighbour goes to Murcia to madrid and murcia to Pamplona twice a month in a 2005 Seat Leon 1,9 tdi 130bph which is now on 650k km , he recently put it on the dyno and it is consistantly reading 141 hp at the wheels. he is concinved the machine was set up wrong, as the car is stock, but this is proof high milage engines driven correctly can have less friction.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

It's quite possible it's legit.

@eugeneoreilly9356

11 ай бұрын

Have a seat 1.9 TDI with 300,000 miles.Engine is PD.Only problem engine wise was replaced camshaft at 260,000 due to failed hydraulic valve lifter which destroyed cam lobe.Good engine which is more than can be said about the rest of the car.

Much enjoyed from The Huguenot Other Oxford (Massachusetts)

Looking forward to the rolling road video. I don’t know much about all that.

After scrapping an 08 Avensis due to chronic rust, and currently sorting my wifes 08 X-Trail's rusty rear subframe and suspension arms, I was amazed to see not one spec of rust on my own 08 C4 Grand Picasso. Japanese quality dosen't extend to rust proofing!

I always love a well maintained high mile car over a low mile car any day.

Want to see the AX GT, and many many others - pls don’t sell the rolling road 😞

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Just dead money sitting in the ground at a time where things are getting tougher and tougher.

@johncallaghan4616

11 ай бұрын

@upmdown - me know, but you create a whole load of new content as a result 🤔

"People watching KZread generally have a short attention span" (me blowing vape rings) "huh?"

Stumbled upon this and found the UK version of Aging Wheels. Superb.

My daughter has my old Peugeot 308 hdi, it recently reached 200k miles. As a result of regular oil changes and good maintenance it’s remarkable original. The original turbo was replaced as a precaution at 178k miles along with a chemical clean of the DPF. The car pulls better now than ever, I did suspect the replacement turbo was better than the original as it wasn’t a cheap one. The DV6 engine has its critics, but I suspect from people that scrimp on cheap oil and long intervals. I always use the low SAPS full synthetic and change at 5k intervals. Power aside, I doubt it will ever get on a dyno, but what is certain is the economy, I recently ran the daughter to East Midlands airport, all M1 and a steady nighttime run, it returned 94mpg - two passengers and luggage.

@SamHocking

10 ай бұрын

Peugeot goes forever. I bought a 407 Coupe I though had done 100k turned out it had been clocked and had 250k in the clock. Still going strong for £500 2 years later.haha

@leenevin8451

10 ай бұрын

94mpg?

Looking forward to your new joint channel ...Hubup n Downnuts 🙂

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

UpNut

Subscribed

Definitely keep this on the road and fully maintained,i reckon it could easily do another 500k

These MK1 Xsara Picassos (black bumpers) are as tough as old boots 💪 I bought my 2001 1.6 8v petrol in 2019 and it's now on 113k having done 50k with me. It's had a new cambelt and waterpump plus various annual service items but it just keeps rolling. And it's 100% rust free. It's moved sofas, beds and done countless tip runs with the rear seats removed, plus trips to Cornwall and IOW 4-up with luggage. The huge panoramic sunroof is great in the summer and great for carrying ladders sticking out the top. Granted it's funny looking and only worth pennies. But it's still ULEZ compliant so I'll hang onto it for a bit longer. 😂

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

The venerable TU5 engine! Couldn't pull the skin off cold custard, but it will keep going and going, and they're easy to fix if they do go wrong.

@mickeyneo4228

10 ай бұрын

mk2 can have black bumper too ;)

@Randomii666

10 ай бұрын

I had a 2.0 petrol MK1 facelift and it was probably the best car i've ever owned. Ran well, was very comfortable to drive long distances in and completely rust free. Not a single rust spot in the whole car, even though it had been pretty rough conditions for the most of it's life. It's incredible how much stuff you can fit in still a relatively small car, and it was a great for towing a trailer as well. Then unfortunately it got t-boned and written off

*Insert old story of how old 1980s BMW F1 turbo engines supposedly used old second hand engine blocks sitting outside and the factory workers used to go and literally piss on them on their break time, before the blocks being selected for being built to be an f1 engine.* Dont know if I ever believed that story, but it seems a bit relevant in this context.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Apparently it's true.

I am now even more curious to know what figures my 331,000 mile BMW 530i could achieve. Incidentally, why do people always seem to think that only diesels do high mileages? They look utterly incredulous when I say "no, it's petrol"... loved the Hubnut collaboration earlier too 😄

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

Old myth that wont go away, like many others.

@gs188

11 ай бұрын

Probably because earlier diesels had the reputation that they were only bought by people who paid the extra for them to gain the extra economy which would pay for itself over the starship mileages they intended to do, which the engine would then achieve as they serviced it accordingly. In contrast a lot of small petrol engine shopping cars (or bigger cars with bad owners of which there were many) don’t do high miles and don’t get serviced so die with a low top score. The reality is it just depends how you look after it - many petrols do lunar miles and plenty of diesels explode through neglect - modern engines of either fuel seem to shit themselves pretty quickly if the exact conditions and lubricants they were carefully designed for are not to spec.

@khalidacosta7133

11 ай бұрын

Petrol is a solvent. Diesel is an oil. So when you get a bit of petrol in the engine oil (especially stop/start driving style), it reduces lubricating properties of oil. Add in needing an ignition system plus all the various intake / exhaust valve things like VTEC / VANOS which adds complexity, so petrol engines, generally, don't last as long as diesels. Especially when people who tend to drive on motorways (which is often least stress on engine) buy diesel. Not to say you can't get mega miles though if driven and looked after right though but often damage is done early on, if second / third buyer does buy a petrol car for long distance.

@russellpengilley5924

11 ай бұрын

Assume it's an E39? 331,000 miles at 30 miles per UK gallon (petrol V6) is ~11,000 gallons of petrol. At 4.546 litres per UK gallon that is 50,000 litres. Average UK petrol price is maybe £1 per litre over the last 20 years, that's £50k of petrol! The British taxpayer thanks you as approximately 2/3rds of that was tax! Though a diesel would have only been ~£10k less in fuel (~40mpg, but slightly higher price per litre) and I am sure you and the other owners enjoyed the engine.

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

@@khalidacosta7133 You are not technically wrong in most of what you wrote. There are a few caveats though and they mostly pertain to the fact that for modern ICE cars, all of the issues described above are as close to insignificant in comparison to other stuff affecting the general motorist, as to be almost irrelevant. Which is why the mentioned confusion over a petrol running those miles, doesnt make sense. By far the number one thing killing cars, with engine included, in the UK is them being uneconomical to repair, not strictly engine related. You effectively can not kill a modern engine by putting "stress" found on any public roads on it. Also, diesels have the dreaded DPF which has sent many low value cars to the scrapper so far, etc etc. To summary, taken over the whole fleet of UK cars, one cant draw any kind of conclusions to which will last longest, and If anything there are a lot of factors that point to that petrols of the vintage 2005-2015 will outlive the diesels statistically, simply because of DPF issues as well as ULEZ. Anyway, all modern engines that doesnt suffer from a grave neglect or catastrophic design flaws can easily do 500k miles, be they diesel or petrol. And more than that as well. Every single one. This is where the people confused as to how a petrol can do 330k miles, mentioned above, go wrong.

Good result, this. The core engine is bullet proof of course, but I'd expect it to be down, due to carbon build up in the intake system/injectors worn etc. after all that time. Do you know if this has ever had those stripped/cleaned/decarbonised or injectors cleaned/changed?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I don't. I suspect it's done a lot of motorway running and been looked after, and it just hasn't fouled up much. May have also have that foam stuff pumped through it (forget what it's called)

@martinhudson2552

8 ай бұрын

I run forte and redex through the fuel system on mine regularly and also let it rev a bit through the gears. Still runs sweet currently at 152,000 miles.

I didn't know I wanted to see a Picasso remap so bad.

Genuinely fascinating...impressive figures

Injectors will have worn a bit and may allow more fuel into the cylinders than when new. I find that almost all diesels improve in performance significantly over the first 15,000 miles and then very slowly level off in performance and optimal fuel economy for at least the first 100,000 miles and, with luck and good maintenance, possibly 200,000+

You hit the nail on the head. Service your car and take care of it and it will take care of you.

Great video. One of my cars is a Xsara Picasso 2.0 hdi. It seems to drive better now than six years ago when i bought it. The engine runs more free somehow.

@UPnDOWN

8 ай бұрын

It probably does!

@martinhudson2552

8 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I wouldn’t have believed it but my mate now retired used to run a car repair and classic car restoration business. He ran loads of 2.0 hdi Xsara Picassos. He swears by the 2.0 hdi engine. Mine should last a long time as I drive it with care. Lovely gearbox as well. Just a little excessive play in the selector but it’s always been like that. It will take me a few years to reach 500k miles. Like your car mine is maintained to a high standard as I am ocd with that 🤣🤣

Not bad I’ve been following the car on twitter, I’ve always wanted to dyno my K10 just out of curiosity

Looking after the car doesn't mean only to change oil often but also to drive sensibly. I say this because some people think that shifting gears at 5000rpm is OK because they change oil every 2000 miles. Another important factor, which most overlook, is the cooling system. I know people who spend a ton of money on expensive oil and frequent oil changes, but never flush their coolant or clean their rad. Running cool is important.

@sigmamale4147

10 ай бұрын

What is the issue with shifting at 5000 rpm ?

We have a test truck at work (DAF CF) with over 1.7 million Km on it. Still drives lovely, although being a durability hack for trailer testing its looking a little worse for wear. However, the engine, manual gearbox and drive line are still spot on. And it can still get a full shift done, unlike modern electric crap.

There is often a fair bit of variance between engines coming from their factories. I always assumed that the published figures were usually the lower end of what the manufacturer would expect a functional engine to produce. I remember watching a program about bike racing, where the engines parts had to be stock, but allowed the builder to select the individual components, with the best tolerances from the production line, essentially given them a blueprinted motor.

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

Is there really a fair bit of variance? Depends on what you mean by "fair", I suppose but as far as I know its in the low single digit percentage in modern engines. If you are getting at something like the difference between these numbers and Bellas number being due to factory variance, that is absolutely out of the question as far as I know. How the published figures represents the average engine output have varied over the years, and between different manufacturers, and even within their own model range. And thats before the marketers get to the numbers, which have the final say in whats to be printed in the spec sheet. In short, when it comes to the figures that are published, there is nothing general one can say at all thats applicable in all circumstances.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Varies from maker to maker. Some are optimistic (Alfa Romeo, Ford), some are realistic (BMW, Volvo, VW, Vauxhall), some are conservative (Peugeot, Citroen) and some are outright bullshit (TVR).

I need a Picasso back in my life. I've had 2...3 if you include C4 picasso too. I try to influence others to buy them whilst they still can (cough, son with young family)

10:15. I’m glad to hear someone else say it, but this is something I’ve been preaching for years.

I’m amazed.

You've drove it nicely for along time - probably your wastegate is gummed up so you get a bit more turbo boost. If you push max for a few minutes with a closed wastegate, the pressure sensor will botoom out, and after a while set a limp mode and fault code (overboost). Happened on the 2.8 HDi boxer i drove as taxi after a few years. It would do 170 but normally it just did 120kph motorway with lufthansa personnel back and forth to the airport several times a day. at 920000 km it threw a rod through the block on acceleration with 8 pilots & stewardesses in it.

@damiank9443

10 ай бұрын

2.0 90 is as simple as it could be so no extravagance like turbo pressure sensor.

I still see so many of these on the road.

Lmao at the Ronnie Pickering ref 😂😂😂

I had a 2001 Saxo VTR that had done 170k ish by the time I killed the gearbox for the 3rd time. Anyway, it most definitely felt faster than the book figure. Never got around to getting it dynod unfortunately.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Every Saxo I've dyno'd has kicked out more than claimed.

@ilovesheryterry

10 ай бұрын

Was it a sensodrive???

AX GT ❤ yes please 💪🏼 The Berlingo needs a remap 🔧

Go on, you know you want to!

I remember when this car first came on the market in 2006 and the advertisements on TV showed robots manufacturing them and then laser etching the "Picasso" logo into the side

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

It was a bit later than 2006! More like 2000...

I got my pd105 dyno'd at 240km was 109bhp & 239nm, got a remap & then it was 152bhp & 350nm now has 345km.

Go on - you know you want to. And holes in the sills equals added lightness!! 😉

I would love to have my 20 year old Stilo Multiwagon Jtd on a rolling road, Its only done 148,000 miles on it but I think its up around where it should be of 115bhp by the way it pulls. Great video though.

I had a bew tdi Jetta with 510,000 kms. Original turbo and clutch did a egr delete thing pulled pretty hard and got better mileage. I was sure it had little to no power loss. I miss the ole tdi

Just had my 2010 407 2.2 HDi Sport dyno remapped, it has 105000 miles, serviced annually with MOT...without fail.... Supposed to make 170ho din, was making 174 after drivetrain losses with 395nm of torque (supposed to be 370)...mapped to 204hp with a bulging 426nm at 1400rpm....I did it to help with mpg...which is a mere 33mpg overall...and it hasn't changed unfortunately

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

The 2.2 was never very frugal, sadly.

Nice to see, I had a Citroen xsara 1.6 and it drove and felt great, reved freely and factory made like 110hp, unfortunately after taking it to the dealer to get the cylinders rebored they fucked the car up really badly, now power is probably around 90-85..

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

Why get it rebored if it was driving great though?

@leonm6969

10 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN well since my parents were living abroad at the time the car was used on and off for about 6 years with minimal service aside from oil changes done to it, and one time my father decided to take it to the dealer just to see what it needed. He was expecting things like brakes, Freon nothing major but the dealership came up with a 1500 euro list (about 1300 pounds), and unfortunately my dad being scared that if he didn’t do the repairs the car would leave us stranded went forward with everything, biggest regret he’s ever had, not only were the repairs done poorly but the rebore had failed and the car just never drove the same

Is it a 16 valve? Do you think the cam chain has ever been changed? I read that the chain vendors quote 150k mile interval for the chain between the twin cams. Bit of a job snd £150 odd in gasket kits, injector studs etc. Do you think it has ever been done on this one? Do you ever change them with high milage?

@eugeneoreilly9356

11 ай бұрын

That's a simple cheap job,but some people don't bother.

@OuterSpaceHoppa

11 ай бұрын

@eugeneoreilly9356 Thanks for the reply, Eugene. are you sure it is simple and cheap? The cambelt, intake manifold, vacuum pump and injectors all have to come off, cam cover off, cam shells off, cam shafts out, then reinstall with new gaskets and injector bolts. I looked up the parts, injector studs and fasteners, £50, gasket kit and chain, £95, injector seals, £6.50. At 163k miles, I need to do the cam belt anyway, but doing the chain is 2.5 times part cost and I guess triple the time of doing the belt, and that is if all is well getting the injector studs out. Plus, I'm no expert at all!

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

It's an 8 valve.

@eugeneoreilly9356

10 ай бұрын

@@OuterSpaceHoppa is the cam drive sprocket not bolted to the camshaft?Then just unbolt it to replace the chain.

Agree with that. Had two 2.2 toyota camrys years ago. A super tidy one with low kms and one that was a tyre companys hack with nearly double the kms. The higher km camry would scream its head of and light up the front tyres. The low km car was slow as.

@GoldenCroc

11 ай бұрын

Well the low km car was broken/out of spec in some way. Like for like (both un-broken) its impossibe to feel any difference because of "wearing in", if anyone thinking so (Not saying you are).

I'm surprised you want to dispose of the dyno, you've had a lot of entertainment from it over the years: even if it isn't strictly necessary for your business.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Dead money sitting in the ground, though.

My MG ZT-T CDTi has 232k on the clock, and goes like a train! Never had it on the rollers and probably never will but it must be doing book figures at least. But not at the moment, it's a little broken. 😕

@EddInLancs01

11 ай бұрын

Goes like a train? You mean it noisily accelerates slowly whilst belching out black smoke?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

I had a ZT-T on there years ago, think it was a diesel. Did OK if I remember right.

@lukecowell1854

10 ай бұрын

Trains are pretty slow

My PD130 powered daily is on a mere 286k miles but it makes more power and more torque than when it left the factory. Perhaps all the engine and drivetrain components wear in over time to reduce friction?

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

I think they probably do, to an extent. As long as the key bits like the bores/pistons etc don't wear

My dad had a citroen picasso '04 plate with 271,000 miles on the clock roughly, we had it for 7 years nearly after it had been used daily as a builders van, taxi, daily driver, only got scrapped as there was so much wrong with the engine that it was not worth fixing.

Did you do a run with the MAF disconnected, to see if Bella is actually running a proper closed loop?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

We did, yes. It showed no difference, which could be a clue.

@MattBrownbill

11 ай бұрын

@@UPnDOWN yep, but did you take the Picasso's MAF off to see what happened?

ive just passed 192k in my Citroën berlingo 1.6hdi. had it mapped to 120 hp its a flying box now

Saw the Picasso on Saturday, I always thought high mile cars lost power, is it possible that it has had an engine rebuild at some point or new turbo. Interesting stuff all the same.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

High mile cars can lose power if the engine wears out. E.g. Rover V8s eat camshafts, so over 100,000 miles, they'll slowly lose top-end power, however if an engine doesn't actually wear out in such a way (which a lot of PSA engines don't, in my experience) then they'll be a lovely, free-spinning thing. I don't know for sure what it's had, but I believe it's original engine and box.

My Mercedes benz viano 2010 has 371 k on it and it looks like it inside because she is a family work horse. I've had a citron xsara before and I love it.

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

What I can't get over is how this car DOESN'T look like it's done half a million miles inside. It even smells fresh!

I have a 306 Hatchback, DW10TD, same engine.450000 km on it to. As a (french) mecanics, I want to explain : if you already shut off the EGR, the main issue with this engine on long run is oil vapor deposit on intake valve, and that's not a big deal, because all diesel engine have it. As long as it have oil,new filter and timing belt on times, and you let it gently get to it's working temp, nothing will happen on it. DW10TD is A ROCK.

was thinkin' that 87, 88 horsies. i's glad.

I saw this on another video, about 'festival of the unacceptable', amazing it has done over 500k.

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Really, it's pretty exceptional.

i’d love to see what mine would make… she’s a 2.0 HDi, remapped with 194k on the clock

There is a lot you can do with these Hdi engines, I've built a Xantia 2.0 Hdi that eats bmws and mercedes for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Gone from 109 hp to 160hp and 400nm torque, and it could do a lot more but the chassis is not enough for that, but it's already an absolute blast to drive it in it's current state.

How much will that dyno go for when you sell it, roughly?

@UPnDOWN

11 ай бұрын

Hard to say. Possibly £8k or so from what I see on eBay. It's old, but simple to use and pretty accurate.

given what i can remember about them engines you should be able to get 110-120HP the fuelling system should be able to put up enough and the turbo should do 140 if you give it hell all the way to redline if you consider turbos expendable.

@UPnDOWN

10 ай бұрын

Only if it has an intercooler.