The director herself said in multiple interviews that you're not supposed to like the main character, whose name is Alexia and not Alexis. She said exactly the opposite- we meet a highly unlikeable person and by the end of the film we discover the humane within this psychopath, as Julia has called her many times. That's what the titane in her head and the cars symbolize- how cold and inhumane she is.

@mmabennyj

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input

Film and being a director is absolutely not about “compromising” with the audience. That’s how you get a bunch of bland shit. A movie cannot be for every person, and that’s okay. But that is exactly why there is no “meeting in the middle” between audience and director. What is overindulgent bs to you is an entertaining, powerful take on found family for others. Instead of urging filmmakers to make their work more palatable, seek art that is easier to digest for yourself.

Woof. Telling an artist to compromise is exactly how everything becomes the same. Bad juju.

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

artist?

@evanrussell5933

Жыл бұрын

@@seraphini1248 filmmaker

My opinions about films, characters, directors, etc. are the exact opposite of yours. Very curious hearing the alternative viewpoint on the two films.

The reason the film works so well for me is not the individual characters themselves but the bond they form together. The purpose of those first 20 minutes is to set up Alexia’s lack of humanity, which changes because of her relationship to Vincent, who you never mentioned once in your review. They are just two incredibly alienated individuals who realize how much they need and love each other, and I found that relationship to be quite beautiful. I can certainly understand not liking the movie and I don’t even think it’s perfect (although I thinks it’s really fucking fantastic), but to say that this movie makes you fear the future of arthouse cinema is really dumb in my opinion.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Oliver, glad you enjoyed the film! While a lot of the writing fell pretty short for me, I do think you're right about the purpose of the first 20 minutes. Vincent was the strongest part of the film for me, and looking back at the review, I think I was a bit harsh not to bring him up (and yeah, I don't know why I said that about "the future of art cinema" haha, I think it's cuz I watched it right after The Green Knight and Annette and I wasn't big on either of those as well; but a bad script is a bad script, I don't think it's a trend necessarily). For me, the big issue was really making that relationship convincing and earning the audience's empathy. But if it worked for you, that's great! Always love to hear a different perspective!

@oliverfolan8479

2 жыл бұрын

@@youwantitharsher3068 That’s very fair. I as well did not like Annette.

i don't agree with your premise... i do not believe the film maker intended AT ALL for you to root for Alexis... it was more as a presentation... here is the thing that happened... i don't think there were any directives on how we were meant to feel about any of the characters....

What was bagged on in this review are some of the things I love about this movie. Yeah it doesn't compromise with the audience And it doesn't have a moral compass or condemn it's characters for it actions like "oh look how bad or good this character is." Violent things just happen like any other action in the film as if it was an mundane action like turning a doorknob or washing a plate after dinner . To me that gives it an unique feeling that even the most of shocking films never pull off. Take the house burning scene for example. Any other movie would have made that scene a statement about the character or a moral or immoral action. In Titane it's just something that happens this is also why I disagree with the point about this movie wanting you to root for the main character I think it tries no such thing at all and just wants you to bear witness to everything happening. It's not a story told through dialogue and motive but visuals and the emotions the visuals evoke. I'm not gonna go into a my problem with basic audiences and wanting to be easily pleased and relate to a character. But for real I feel like that could be so irritating for a director when they want to expand filmmaking with thier own personal take and basic movie goers just want the same old experiences. I take my hat off to the real creatives like this woman Julia here. Unflinching in their vision. I personally love von trier but I think Titane is by far a better film than Jack I love most of that movie especially the ending but for me it's one of his weaker films and alot of the overly self aware writing and cheesy humor (like when that lady answers the door and he trying to cover shit up. Really cringe worthy attempt at mainstream what I call white people humor) but he made antichrist which is one of the greatest movies of all time so I cant speak much criticism of the legend Lars. Despite disagreeing with this video It was very well done and well articulated so I will be subscribing. It's good for hear other perspectives other than ones own so when I find one of good quality I gotta give credit.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed the review. I certainly agree that it's important to expand a filmmaker's palette beyond what the audience wants, and I have no qualms with Julia experimenting in this film; just personally hope in the next one she sharpens up her screenplay to really hit those emotional beats!

@MothraBlues

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I disagree completely. I honestly feel that films like Titane do very little to push the limits of cinema, and come off more like childish reactions to standard cinematic storytelling than anything else. Trust me, I hate being emotionally manipulated & "cued" by most "standard" movies as well, but I hate feeling completely jerked around by a cynical & deliberately nonsensical film-maker even more. I don't think it's fine, or particularly interesting at all to present violence as mudanely as washing the dishes. An act of violence upon another living being is fraught with emotion, and heavy with moral implications, & to present it any other way seems intellectually dishonest to me. Which is why films like Titane (& yes, directors like your beloved Lars Von Trier) piss me off so much. I believe they treat their audiences with as much (if not more) disdain as the worst Disney or blockbuster action film, but they simply couch their movies as "art". However, unlike a better artist like David Lynch, who also (mostly) refuses to spoon-feed his audiences, I think Titane, Antichrist & Funny Games (the only 2 Von Trier films I've seen) are just cynical exercises created by pretty immature and emotionally stunted individuals. And what's even more annoying is being told "Oh, you just don't get it, & want to be a spoon-fed baby". No, I just don't particularly get off being mentally ass-raped at the cinema by pretentious wankers, ta very much. But hey - each to their own!

@roberteggsly657

2 жыл бұрын

@@MothraBlues There's that term "moral implications" why does that have to be important in filmmaking? What if the story and point they are trying to get across has nothing to do with someone's particular human morals? To me Titane zeroes in on love as an emotion. The fact that the character is unredeemable and vile at points is part of the journey because when someone is evil they never feel like they are. To get into the head of a character in which their moral compass isn't wired the "normal' way, why should the film be? This doesn't have anything to do with being spoonfed or not more of the main character being likeable or not and how a normal audience wants that connection. Not every film has the point to accomplish that. And on the Point about good old Lars. You've only seen one of his movies. He did not direct funny games . I recommend you do your research on his other work before you just judge him on antichrist. Melancholia and breaking the waves would be some great places to start. Also you bring up the great David Lynch And I feel like he has done his major fair share of alienating his audience on purpose or included senseless violence that jarred the viewers. Twin peaks fire walk with me (a personal favorite of mine) was panned when it came out Now I've seen modern filmmakers steal from that movie on it's sureal side a hundred times over. People also didn't get lost highway at first. Now that film is relevant and copied to this day

@MothraBlues

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberteggsly657 Ta for your thoughtful reply. I get that not every film needs to make moral judgements, or even have particularly likeable chatacters, but I still think it's nigh-impossible to watch someone brutally slaughter a bunch of mostly blameless people in a film & suspend any kind of judgement. So I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on that! Oh, but one last thing that really annoyed me about 'Titane', was we weren't given a decent look at Alexia's "Tetsuo-Iron-Baby"! Yes, I realize that wasn't really the point by that stage, but I still think this was just one more blindingly naive directorial decision of Mizz D. I think it was a bit unfair to have all that build-up with near zero pay-off (sorry to harp on about Mr Lynch again, but even he was smart & reasonable enough to eventually let us get a good look at the Elephant Man, fer chrissakes! Meh!). Oops - my apologies for blaming Lars for 'Funny Games' for all these years - can't believe I got that wrong, but oh well! I forgot he directed 'Melancholia' (didn't like it much either, mind you - LoL!). I do actually think 'Antichrist' was a pretty good film - I just think the gory end part with the hedgeclippers is probably THE most disturbing things I've ever seen (& I've watched almost every goddamn horror movie ever made - a rather dubious claim to fame, I readily admit!). So that end scene unfortunately overshadows the rest of that film for me. Thanks for the other recommendations, though.. Cheers! 😊

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

@@youwantitharsher3068 no, it just sucks, it's literally none of those things this guy thinks it is.

Just because characters motivations are not clearly said through dialogue doesn’t mean there is nothing to relate to a character. Alexia was in a car accident in the beginning of the film which caused her father to resent her, she looks for this attention from him but the neglect is overbearing and is the main reason she outbursts into these killings. She doesn’t know how to handle intimacy because of her childhood, very clearly shown when she bites her love interest too hard when their kissing. Saying we know nothing about this character is to completely ignore what the first half of the film was trying to say. Also the car fucking was symbolic for the relationship between Vincent and alexia, something beautiful coming from a cold “dead” machine. Which is their relationship. The movie shows these two shitty people who have nothing in their lives learning to love each other. Alexia’s character clearly has development in learning how to be someone’s child, and becoming attached to Vincent. The body dysmorphia aspect directly reflects her self acceptance and change in her feeling towards him. A new life coming from these two fucked up people. This is why I feel people have really resonated with the film, being able to love someone and/or yourself despite what you’ve done or gone through. But hey if you didn’t like, you didn’t like it. I don’t need to change your mind, just tell you how I perceive it.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the film! I do admit my review here is pretty hot (I made it right after watching the movie, probably not the best idea haha) and I think you bring up a lot of good points. While I dig a lot of the stuff your saying, and ultimately this is just a taste issue, I personally needed much more clear development to feel invested in what was being shown. For example, Alexis biting her lover too hard was not enough for me to convey years of emotional immaturity when it comes to intimacy. If more was shown of her growing up and perhaps how her father mistreated her, I think I could've gotten more on-board with it. But hey, if it worked for you, that's cool! I always appreciate hearing someone else's perspective.

@giorgioiorio9359

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamleblanc2337 Hey Adam, glad you enjoyed the film! I know I was a bit hot in my review, but don't let it take away from your enjoyment of the movie if you thought it worked. For me, it wasn't really that I missed what the film was trying to do, so much as I don't think it achieved it. I didn't necessarily need her feelings of neglect spoonfed to me, but a lot of the scenes were just too ambiguous for me to see it as clearly as I think you were able to. Example: the opening scene, she's annoying her dad in the car. This could be a multitude of things, not just neglect. In their later interactions, it's clear that Alexia and her father don't connect, but it doesn't necessarily convey neglect. I don't always get along with my parents, that doesn't necessarily mean they're neglectful. And at the very least, if some neglect was conveyed I didn't think it was extreme enough to convincingly make the connection between that and her murderous intent. It felt very "first draft" to me. But if you felt otherwise, that's cool, I actually thought a lot of the stuff with Vincent was very intriguing and could've worked as its own film. I'll definitely check out that doc when I get the chance! Thanx for the recommendation!

@MothraBlues

2 жыл бұрын

@Mr Moist - I completely disagree that Alexia's motivations were clearly shown in the slightest. You've simply assumed (or read in a review, perhaps?) that Alexia's problems dealing with intimacy & her psychopathy were due to a cold and resentful father. This was not clearly shown AT ALL - I'm gonna give Mizz D the benefit of the doubt that this WASN'T due to basic storytelling ineptitude, & say it was most likely a deliberate choice, because, y'know, art-house suckers really love that kinda ambiguous shit. An equally valid reading is that Alexia was an unloveable psycho right from the get-go, as was SO CLEARLY SHOWN by her completely unprovoked harassment of her poor father while he was trying to drive the car, AND tugging violently on the nipple rings of the sad girl she inevitably spiked. You see how this game can work? I won't go on to say that why the hell she liked copulating with cars is frankly anyone's guess as well - I personally think it was because she was simply a big J.G. Ballard fan. That works just as well as any other reading in the total absence of any fucking clues offered by the bloody director. No, rather, I'll just say that it's been many a year since a film pissed me off quite as much as 'Titane' (though a pretty safe bet would be that it was likely some noxious bollocks from Lars Von Bloody Trier), & that's probably because I've done my very best to avoid utterly pretentious art-house nonsense like this piece of pusillanimous poo - having had more than my fill in the 1980s, ta very much, but the fact it was awarded the Palm D'Or by those idiots at Cannes blind-sided me. Oh well! Anyway, I couldn't help but respond to your reply to BatChainCinema's review, as I found it pretty condescending, tbh. You're welcome!

@hannaw9499

2 жыл бұрын

@mrmoist, I think it would be reasonable to infer a cold and neglectful childhood as the cause of Alexia being a bad lay (the nipple ring scene), but it doesn’t justify her being a serial killer. Murder, especially repeated, emotionless, murder of strangers, is incredibly extreme….in life, everyone who has a tough upbringing doesn’t grow into an adult serial killer. The movie doesn’t adequately justify Alexia’s killings enough for me to go on and root for her.

I thought I was the only person who didn't like this movie. Thanks for this review.

i lowkey respect homie keeping the video up after how much everyone seems to detest it.

Just thank you. That movie horrifies me. Not because it does a good job at being an horror movie, no, no... because it deconstructs everything to a degree where nothing is left. It's poorly written, pretentious, not to mention the acting is truly horrible (I'm french).

This movie perfectly exposes to me why people hating The Chronicles of Narnia for being allegories (which they weren't - that's just a go-to word that people use for anything that has an overarching message) is just an excuse to hate them because they're Christian. Because every criticism you point out here boils down to this movie being an allegory. None of the characters are real characters but instead stand-ins for ideas, which is why the MC has no build up, why the scenes pass without any reasonable connection, etc. Yet the same people who applaud this movie (and others like it) would say that Narnia is heavy-handed allegory in order to dismiss it. Even professional critics.

finally someone who agrees with me about this movie just like you i watched Raw and i think it's amazing 8.5/10 but then i watch this and i don't get why ppl put it on a pedestal this movie lack coherence and motivation it does not know what it want to tell the movie keep jumping from a scene to another for no reason the first half has nothing to do with the second half which is a completely different movie other than the fact that she got pregnant from a car which make no since or explanation even on the level of it trying to be surreal like why didn't they give us the same story but with her father who was introduced in the start for him to die for no reason like movie give us the same story you gave but with the actual father to understand the issues between her and her father but nope the movie just jumps to the fire fighter guy who was looking for his son not even explaining anything about his actual son or what happened to him ect the closest movie to this one that i actually liked and think did it much better is a scarlett johanson movie called under the skin that deals with similar plot points

I need a couple more passes through this… I don’t think I agree with your assessment, but I do appreciate your perspective on the film. It will definitely help with my follow up watches. Cheers mate.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a divisive film. My word is not objective truth of course, come to your own conclusions on it, and if you end up really liking it, power to ya!

i agree with you. 'raw' was very very good, this was a big let down.

Yeah you kinda missed the whole concept of the movie apparently and stayed on the basic level. You missed the whole incest concept she has from her original father. The husk of a woman she becomes because of it and her only relationship with cold platinum steel instead of warm living flesh. Her Stockholm syndrome for the very car that scarred her for life. You missed the part where the pregnancy is just a representation of guilt from the trauma she had many years ago (starting of the flick, you can see black oil leaking in some car engine and jump straight to the car ride and accident... a rape inside that car... the black oil can represent the black semen of the father but that's just a interpretation). It's a whole story about monsters finding a bit of their humanity when close another monster. And while she's at it, she's taking the family roles set upon the genders and throw them away. It's a pretty good movie imo. I kinda aggree with some of your remarks but in the end, it's not a movie that you get on first view. It's too elusive ... and yet it is brilliant in how it portrays many concepts about love, family and humanity. Oh and by the way, you can't say Venom is better than this... that's when you lose all arguments you just made up, even the good ones.

@akxsharma

2 жыл бұрын

I got all that and it’s still dumb.

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

no, he understood it. when did the dad commit incest to alexia?

@antoniomendes7961

2 жыл бұрын

@@seraphini1248 In the "accident" at the start of the movie.

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoniomendes7961 after the accident?

@antoniomendes7961

2 жыл бұрын

@@seraphini1248 The accident where she slams her head against the car window as a kid

This movie was very confusing, plot lines and characters doesn’t make sense. I wouldn’t recommend it to average movie goers. All I can say it’s a metaphor for child birth with Akira level twist. The movie doesn’t know what it wants to be. The Director obviously had a wired sexual fantasy about her father. You can even see that in the early scenes where the real father was trying to inspect her stomach and she tried to sexually advance toward him. But I think later it was realized how fucked up it was to make a movie about such subject, So suddenly out of nowhere the character of the other father shows up and the director tries to pull the original intention to show a sexual fantasy with her father. You can say the car was symbolic of her real father. As in cars mean men's masculinity. Like the first scene you see in the movie was the father driving the car. Later there's a scene where she fucks her fathers car and gets pregnant by it. Which can be symbolic of being impregned by her real father. That's why you can see in the next scene the father refusing to acknowledge the daughter is pregnant. The scenes where other men try to approach her and she killing them is subtext of her losing her interest in any men other than her father. Also the following scene where is just kills some random people having an orgy is symbolic of rebel against normal sexual relationships. But the scene in the timeline and motivation of her killing them doesn't make sense despite the subtext. Also when the wife finds out the son is actually a girl and she doesn't call the police doesn't make sense. This movie has a lot of potholes like this, I agree the direction by the director was good in terms of cinematography, pulling out the performance from the actors with editing and sound design was good indeed. But it didn't deserved to win the palm de or. Clearly when it was the directors 2nd feature. There obviously was blind toxic feminism amongst the juries. There were far more better movies deserving of the grand winner title.

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

see, those are the INTENTIONS of the movie, but that's the same as saying, "I can understand what they were TRYING to do with the live action dragonballz movie."

Very good explanation for why it is bad.

There was once artistic compromise in order to conjure what one wanted to illustrated in the dawn of the first painting however nowadays the compromise has been flipped on its head and now it’s seen as a mode of form that can encapsulate the desire of the creator. Film is the exact illustration, there shouldn’t be a notion of pre-conceived compromise, if you view a films formulated presentation as a compromise then does that mean that your critiques on the content within said compromise are obsolete? If Titane was a book would it have less or more compromise to balance? The statement alone of saying there is a compromise is a debate in of its self never mind wether it deserved a collectively seasonal vote toward a award that, if you truly understand the variances of reception in art, does not grant any seal of quality whatsoever.

I tried watching it last night. I stopped at 30 minutes. Normally I love weird movies--Eraserhead, House, Daisies, etc.--but I just couldn't get into Titane.

I love france in movies though, it is always some weird place from parallel universe where society works backwards and people act like AI.

I think the serial killer aspect was an excuse so she didn't have to go to hospital about the pregnancy haha

It's The Power of the Dog, actually! Apparently people had amnesia about Brokeback Mountain, Beau Traveil and God's Own Country!

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh, i got u kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3Wkwdiaf5q6k5M.html

Imagine not doing the car baby right. Also I'm waiting for doctor strange 3 for next good movie of the year

Why do you keep comparing it to The House That Jack Built?

@richgranados11

2 жыл бұрын

Because they are both recent European films about serial killers. One of the directors did their homework and made their pretentious film somewhat logical and compelling, the other one made a pretentious movie that, while really a fun and interesting movie to watch, makes no sense but since it’s French, we should eat their cockmeat sandwich of a movie and ask for extra Mayo because we’re not worthy But they’re both well-made films, one better than the other (The Dutch one is better)

@RAIDOVERMOSCOW1

2 жыл бұрын

@Richard Granados Just because 2 movies are from the same continent and have roughly the same subject matter doesn't mean they are anything alike or are there is any value in comparing the two.

@richgranados11

2 жыл бұрын

@@RAIDOVERMOSCOW1 good point. But they are both what I would call extreme films (at least that’s what the media has described them as) that have been called the most shocking films of the year. They both follow the life of a serial killer and both came out relatively recent to each other. They both made about the same amount of money (not much). The films are very different of course in how their stories are told. Still, I think the comparison is apt. I think the more extreme a film is, the more people should critique it. If I were to make a movie about prostitutes who graphically torture children for example, I would expect feedback and criticism. I think my qualm with Titane is that it feels like an exploitation film; a geek show with little to counterweight its heavy themes or if it does, it does so in a shallow childish way as if I’m too square to “get it”. It’s kind of like that kid who likes to get attention by showing how much he can dislocate his arm. Anyways, people compare movies all the time. It’s the nature of the beast. Would you be upset to compare Portrait of a lady on fire and Ammonite?

@RAIDOVERMOSCOW1

2 жыл бұрын

@Richard Granados I wouldn't say that I would be "upset" if you compared any movie to any other movie. I haven't watched either of those films, to be honest, so any comparison would be lost on me.

@richgranados11

2 жыл бұрын

@@RAIDOVERMOSCOW1 right. Those two movies were lesbian period films. One being better received than the other. So it’s interesting to see why people explain why one was better than the other. It’s like comparing marvel and dc films. Interesting stuff

I really loved this movie. I get your criticism, but I think the start was meant to show how disconnected she is from people. The only relationship she had is with a machine. I get why you didn’t like it though. Me personally, I hated the House that Jack Built. I find Von Trier to be a masterful filmmaker but I always hate his stories and what they’re trying to say and honestly, I find him extremely pretentious. But again, I get why people like him. I think it’s a matter of taste.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the film! Totally get the hate for Von Trier haha, he's a very divisive filmmaker and his stuff can sometimes be really cold. But like you said, ultimately it's taste. I like that Von Trier doesn't try to go for any big emotional beats in House That Jack Built and instead treats it like a farce. I thought Ducournau didn't do enough to earn those beats at the end of Titane. But yeah, it comes down to taste, and if it worked for you that's great! Always appreciate another perspective!

Ohh God THANK YOU SO MUCH !

I don't agree.

Couldn’t agree more.

Couldn’t agree more. It was trying way too hard to be clever. I found it to be a pretentious exercise in shock value which I found was much better mechanised and filmed like FRONTIÈRE(S), HAUTE TENSION and SEUL CONTRE TOUS- well-known titles in the Nouveau Extrémité Français (New French Extremity). The only thing I found that was interesting is seeing a firefighter say “Hein, Macarena” when pressing one’s chest for CPR.

Telling artists to compromise will never ever give you a better piece of art. As a fan of movies this seems like an obvious fact, but I guess not obvious enough. Your first criticism of the movie being that it doesn't compromise almost sounds like a compliment. I was confused at first and had to pause the video and read the title again. You say Alexia murders innocent people for no reason, and I just cannot agree. The last 3 people are innocent yes, but killing them for no reason? did you watch the movie? The first guy she kills creepily waits for her outside of where she works, tells her he is in love with her, and then sexually assaults her. Just because you don't want to kill people doesn't mean the character your watching doesn't have reasons. Also connecting to the first part of the movie ,where Alexia literally undergoes a life altering traumatic event, she is shown to have an affinity for cars/machines and less for humans. This sets up her remorseless and unfeeling attitude later in the film. She kills the first girl because she is scared of connection. Then she kills the following people because they are witnesses. Of course it isn't perfectly logical to kill all these people, but from what Alexia has been through can we ask her to act perfectly logical? Also you say the killings are just gore porn and I could not disagree more. We are behind the couch, a neutral uncaring view of the scene, when Alexia kills the first girl. Then we don't see the second guy die we just see his dead body in a wide shot. And finally we don't even see what she does to the final guy he just gets stabbed below screen. If the killings in this movie were just gore porn we would be shown them in way more graphic detail but instead we feel detached from them, like Alexia is. Yet you somehow think we aren't emotionally detached from the killings. The scene literally has comedic elements in it. Your next complaint is the abrupt cuts between scenes. Please answer me this. Do you really need an extra shot between scenes to show you time has passed? Are the characters being in a different setting at a different time of day not enough to convey to you we are moving to the next moment of the film? "Meaningless scenes strung together" is a quote from the video. I honestly don't have a rebuttal to this. It baffles me that you found it hard to see the characters in the movie as characters. This seems more like a fault of your own rather than the movies. You also say the actors just line up for the directors beauty shots and i have to ask again, did you watch the movie? The human body time and time again in this movie is depicted as anything but sexy or beautiful. For you to see it the exact opposite way is so surprising. You say the second half shifts into a new plot entirely as if it is a bad thing about the movie. Firstly it isn't halfway though the movie it is earlier than that. Second, what??? The plot going in a direction you didn't think it would isn't a fault against the movie. The first 30 minutes or so need to be there to set up the rest of the movie. Just because your expectations were not met doesn't mean the movie failed at something. You then go on to say "wtf does this theme have to do with mass murdering your audience" like... what???? You projecting a meaning onto what the killings are supposed to represent and then criticizing the movie for the belief YOU CAME UP WITH is insane. If these killings didn't happen imagine how less impactful Alexia saving a life, or connecting to Vincent would be. This argument i'm gonna make is a very cliche one but seems very fitting here. You not understanding the movie, and then getting upset at the movie for not being easier to understand just because you want it to is a terrible criticism. Saying we don't know anything about the main character is like, actually crazy. We learn her father didn't treat her well, she had a life changing traumatic incident that would forever change how her brain works, and we learn because of this change she likes cars more than people and connects to machines easier than living things. Not being able to understand a character and not trying are so very different. You make a comparison to Cronenberg and say his body horror is scary because we see a character lose their humanity, which isn't the case in this movie. Applying a reason for why body horro works in a specific movie then expecting that reason to work for all other movies involving body horror is wild. The body horror in Titane is unsettling for the exact opposite reason. Through Alexia's condition she becomes more human and learns to care for others. Just because the director subverted your expectations doesn't mean she failed. In conclusion, this review of Titane you made (in my opinion) is one of the worst reviews for a movie i have seen. Continually condemning a movie for not conforming to what you want it to be isn't criticism, it's whining that someone made something that isn't for you. If Julia, or any director, chose to prioritize the general audiences expectations and opinions over their own artistic vision and intention, no great movie would ever be made. Everything would be easy to follow, easy to understand, and easy to forget bullshit.

You have it kinda backwards imo. She goes from psychopath to human by the end from you perspective, but yeah, there are too many pieces missing for me to care. It left me wanting more out of the relationships. I guess you could say that's the point, though. Alexis doesn't have more to give until the very end. So we the audience are left empty towards her until she let's her "father" in. It's the first time she feels cared for. Her new father is the first to accept her. Still, Gaspar Noe does this better and you can see the influence of him and Carax, just diluted and meandering. It's low impact shock. I enjoyed it, though, and Rouselle and Lindon hit their marks for me. Especially Lindon. I thought his performance was on point.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head there. With such a scattered script and thinly developed relationships, it's hard to be invested. Only as the film wraps up do we start to connect with what Ducournau is trying to say. She's is clearly a massive talent -- I just hope she fleshes out her screenplay more in the next one! Glad you brought up Noe and Carax btw. Both are wonderful and the influence is very clear!

Thank you for this video. Completely agree.

I liked the movie. It's so bonkers it's hilarious.

I wrote this as a reply but I want more people to see it: It’s an ok movie but I see his point. It’s so disjointed in its tone and story and it’s done so in a way that it’s clear that the film is an anthology of unrelated vignettes the director pictured in her head with no story to connect it together. The biggest problem is that the story has no through line. C’mon, who’s buying that the dad really believes that’s his son (I know he’s deluded but still) or that people don’t notice right away it’s a woman (what is this, White Chicks?) Or that if you have sex w a car you’ll get knocked up. It goes in and out of erotic fantasy, slasher/body horror, family drama, crime thriller, neo -noir… etc. etc. I don’t know, the director can’t have her cake and eat it too. it’s a fun film and well made but at its core it’s as silly as Aquaman. It’s the type of French arthouse film that invites abstract pointless essays on post modern feminism and societal violence blah blah blah by lazy people who haven’t worked a day in their life because they’re up to their ass looking at a thesaurus. We get it, the French are intellectually and emotionally superior in all things erotic and dramatic. We must bow before their infinite wisdom. The house that jack built is a brilliant comparison because it can be seen as another pretentious eurotrash film but the difference there is that we know that the main character is evil and the film is consistent in trying to explore a logical window into the mind of a serial killer. The creative decisions there (no matter how nasty, unreliable and surreal) made me really feel like I glimpsed into the mind of an ocd serial killer. Von Trier Had a clear story arc and resolution for his character while exploring the madness of a murderer in a surprisingly coherent way. Titane, by comparison, was just like watching Malignant (which is not a bad thing and that movie was actually my favorite of the year and made me cry at the end albeit I was drunk when I watched it) and tries to justify and make us feel sympathy for an irredeemable character with vague presumptions of past trauma and other stuff that is so poorly thought out that it’s just another attempt to repackage a schlock revenge rape exploitation film under the guise of a deeply profound French arthouse movie that only true disbelievers will believe; in other words, it’s trying to be nihilistic for the sake of being nihilistic while feeding us really immature and cliched lazy French moralities. Like I get it, but how about forgiving people and stop blaming other people for your problems? How about going to a therapist? How about stop telling your mom you hate her and that society is to blame? Ugh, I’m writing way too much but the film really has emo kid 🖤 cutting-herself written all over it. It’s a whiny teenager from the lily-white suburbs whining about her local Taco Bell. It’s gaspar noe giving the most anti-consumerist speech while begging for corporate sponsors when no one is looking, It’s Hugo Chavez talking shit about the United States while doing back room deals with American big oil companies that very same day bleh The director made an interesting horror movie but don’t try to pretend it’s bloody the greatest story ever told, that it doesn’t pander to too-cool-for-school faux-intellectuals without actually trying to put in the work to be actually thought provoking, and that it’s more than the geek show that it is. In short, in the words of Jeff Foxworthy You might be a redneck if you loved Titane… wait I meant hipster … Good film though. I’m not trying to be a hater. Its clear that the director put a lot of work in and I’m glad that there are more women directors. It’s cool everyone walks away with different interpretations. To me, it’s on par with last night in soho if not a bit below it but who really cares what I think. Art speaks for itself

The car has more personality than her, I even forgot the name lmao

Clearly someone dosent believe we are all Animals. I love films like this. Have you seen Blue Velvet that might Change your mind.

@marinazolotic4347

4 ай бұрын

Do not compare Blue Velvet to this pretentious tripe.

I liked it until the end. Such a dumb pretentious movie

bad take. this movie is the best

I was expexting a car baby too man, It would've been so cute.

I think Dune beats this movie for Overrated movie of 2021.

@MothraBlues

2 жыл бұрын

First equal, I'd say!

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Just dropped a Dune review! Liked it a lot, though I understand why some people didn't. Very heavy on spectacle and slim on character, works only if you can get into the spectacle.

@rinner2801

2 жыл бұрын

@@youwantitharsher3068I absolutely loved Lynch's Dune and that had it's own share of spectacle. Unfortunately, I could not enjoy this new take as others have, but I am honestly glad that it worked for you!

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinner2801 that explains alot.

Oups, someone didn't get the movie !

No! Spider-Man far from home is an overrated movie!!!

I really don't want to. But I agree. Great opening though, sadly one of the best openings I've seen. I know it's hypersexual and I am a guy but even without that it's great. But after, well....

What bummed me out the most was that it wasn't even that violent, I heard so much hype about it being extremely violent but it's less violent than midsommar and that's nothing

Subscribed! We need more honest scathing reviews!

Ok I get that you don't like the weird car body horror movie, but how do you like the movie where a guy kills innocent children, cuts a woman's breasts off, and praises nazis where the director who made it said he just wanted to shock and get a reaction out of people (also shown at cannes)? And Jack was a million times worse and more psychopathic than Titane's protagonist and he was never effectively shown to be "wrong". The House That Jack Built was literally just a guy brutally killing/torturing a bunch of people, talking about it with little to no push back from Virgil, then giving this awful psychopath a weak death. Unironically liking that movie says more about you than anything else. Also von trier shoots his movies like a tv show, Titane was pretty overrated but at least it looked good.

I just saw it, and while first 5-10 minutes are ok, but weird, it looses the focus and becomes something else. It was not surprising what is coming when she started oozing black goo. What is the point of violence? No motivation. No answers. And sure, it is pretty easy to dismiss the impossible odds of hiding that belly and breasts all that time, when the "offspring" is some bad Cronenberg adoption, mixed with Tetsuo: The Iron Man: Not tied with things in the real world, but sadly not even good at all. I understand the praise for her previous movies, but this? Cannes should really explain something here. But what the fuck BatChainCinema? Do you try to break our ears during the last few seconds? Video editors usually let you change the sound volume for each clip, ya know?

Dude I agree 100 percent. I have to subscribe to you man. Movie reviewers, especially on youtube, have no balls anymore and you tell it like it is. I hope you continue to make reviews.

"yeah im jus a guy who watches movie"

I also didn't enjoy the movie. Those who liked it seem to fill in the blanks with their own interpretations of story that is supposed to be about relationships which moments movie doesn't actually portray. The themes are all over the place, never really choosing the massage. Two problematic individuals can only show humanity when woman is going into labor? Really groundbreaking stuff. The structure is a big problem. Movie starts with a high note, leaving audience to wander what's next and instead of getting more shock, the tension dissolves as does the interest until audience reaches dissatisfaction and boredom.

@gaminginvirinch3339

4 ай бұрын

People have different cultures and opinions so of course they won't get an accurate representation of that. Instead of blaming people why not explain what's wrong with themes and how did affect the story instead of blaming people? Is this what the audience is doing like blaming people? Can't you have an opinion on why the movie sucks based on the story?

Thank you. Titane is another one of those hollow pseudo-artsy messes that get traction nowadays, the other one being Portrait Of A Lady On Fire, which has one of the laziest, predictable and mind-numbingly boring scripts I've ever seen. But the pictures look pretty so 10/10.

The movie is overated and a bit pretentious

Comgrats... I guess

You pretty much hit the nail on the head with this movie. This was even worse than Raw, and I didn’t even like Raw. Also, I love The Fly (1986) too. I do disagree with you on The Green Knight being “overhyped” though. Every time I watch that film, it gets better and better on repeat viewings.

Titane >>>> House that Jack Built. That’s edgy for the sake of being edgy and very self indulgent. I think that videos like this lack the understanding of film and art. This is just trying be different. Also quite being so mean spirited it’s not a good look.

thank you, this movie is so pretentiously shock value, gratuitous nudity and violence, with a half assed plot with no motivation stringed together to comment on how bad the character has got it, when she already, for no reason, see her dish out worse to others. what was the robot baby for? what does it mean? i'm sorry but raw suffered a bit from what this movie suffers as well, which is, it doesn't know what it wants to be about.

I liked this movie. And I loved your hilarious review and agree with you. Do more bad reviews - you’re good.

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

it was a good review.

@radiofreescott

2 жыл бұрын

@@seraphini1248 it was a well done review.

Totally agreed. 👌 Edit_ Man you said exactly what I felt about this crap. Great Job. Keep it up❤️

@wooflord

2 жыл бұрын

Mind if I ask what your favourite film is? Just trying to get a feeling of what your character is like

i just don't think men are built to understand this movie.

How is it outrageous body horror if the movie don’t even care to show the exploded fireman who was still breathing and the face of the guy who was killed by breaking his jaw by a chair ? Also assuming that all the other thing in this world is normal how the fuck does police not track a suspected serial killer with huge fucking scar on the head, shouldn’t that be the main thing in the wanted posters rather than a hand drawn sketch. The last I saw these many dumb plot holes was in Mandibules (2021) and at least it was a feel good comedy. You are absolutely right, this movie is overhyped AF and I think this received the Palm D Or solely because the director is a Female who still lingers on her clout from her previous work(Sorry If I Sound Sexist).

@martasbrana121

2 жыл бұрын

AqQP

I was with you until your brought up The House that Jack Built. To me that film is extremely self indulgent and annoying

This movie sucked. Basically a waste of my time.

What exactly are your credentials?

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

My credentials are that I've watched a lot of movies :D

What a derivative opinion. Click-baity title made it worse. Was expecting a much more intelligent take on this peculiar movie. At least the movie had my attention.

Thank you.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! :D

Irriversible movie..way worst than this one

Someone else said it here first, but I also think the unimaginative new version of 'Dune' is giving 'Titane' a run for it's money for 'Most Overrated Piece of Cinematic Garbage' for 2021. Palm D'Or? Golden Turkey, more like!

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! Golden Turkey indeed! Just dropped a Dune review actually. While I liked it a lot, I get why some people didn't. Very slim on substance, very heavy on spectacle. The spectacle really worked for me, but I'll admit, if part two doesn't do enough to develop the characters, it would essentially render part one a waste of time.

@MothraBlues

2 жыл бұрын

@@youwantitharsher3068 Glad you liked my cheesy joke, sir, & even though the only thing I appreciate about Villanueve's dull-as-ditchwater Dune are its superior soporific qualities (no, really!), I'll check out your review. Cheers! 👍😊👍

what a bad take. Its not the greatest film ever made, but it was interesting. oh, and stop saying "CONNS" , Jesus lol

this is the first video i've disliked in years

Yeah this is a pretty hot take dude, you sure you want to keep this up?

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

It might be hot, but it's what I think!

@johnwinnard5589

2 жыл бұрын

Or what? Lol. The art police coming?

@larsliebrand2274

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Moist comment maybe changed your/his mind. No art police, but I am personally baffled with this particular take, which is also fine. Live and let live man.

@andrewcarson6925

Жыл бұрын

This movie was trash simple

I respect your criticism, though, have you considered your male biases during your critique? Or mental health. Sometime lack of explanation is the most wonderful way to tell a story. I believe that there is a massive faith put in the audience to come up with their own conclusions. Some people may not like it and that’s you, and some people really do, and that’s just the rest of us.

@damatinster7283

2 жыл бұрын

He’s a film bro he won’t get it

@j_shelby_damnwird

2 жыл бұрын

This comment is both sexist and ableist. Reporting to Woke Police.

@ashawilliams4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@j_shelby_damnwird i’m screaming laughing ❤️

Lol

Just subscribed.Loved your analysis.I think the biggest selling point of the film is the idea that she had sex with the car and got pregnant.Idea is just the beginning.you have to work to shape it into a coherent and investing narrative.that did not happen in this movie.its paper thin in its characters and their motivation.no narrative arc.it becomes static once she gets to Lindon's house and everything becomes too predictable.I think the people in cannes became prisoners of the moment by experiencing this idea for the first time.once you know that plot point there is nothing exciting about the film. I am not being a sexist here but I do think the reason it is getting so much praise is because she is a female director who is doing it in the subgenre of body horror which is primarily dominated by men.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the sub!!! Agree on the point that it became pretty predictable in the second half. I'm not so sure people were praising this just because of the director's gender, I think it had more to do with the hype, but it's always possible.

All these dislikes, yet no one provides a counterargument

@larsliebrand2274

2 жыл бұрын

Look at mr moist comment?

@1977Suspiria

2 жыл бұрын

There are plenty. 🤷‍♂️

TBH this movie was trash

The movie was very predictable from the moment she got "adopted" by the firefighter. I knew it a transformation story then. I was hoping for a twist, but was disappointed. The only reason why it's being praised because the director is a female. Nothing more.

@youwantitharsher3068

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt it became fairly predictable by the end as well. Don't know if I'd go that far with the director being female. I think there was a lot of hype around this movie (which makes sense, Raw was really good) and a lot of early reviews came out of film festivals, which are very easy to get swept up in the excitement of. Either way, I wasn't a fan, and I'm glad to see I'm not alone haha!

@eaglesandowls

Жыл бұрын

wrong

L reviewer

Deary me young man.... wrong on so many levels I can't even be assed to get into it. But hey ho, we are all entitled to our opinions. But, I am with you on one thing - I still can't make the connection with her being a serial killer of innocent people. And I don't think the movie is as incredible as some are saying, but it's certainly way, way better and more complex than this chap is saying. 👍🙂

@richgranados11

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an ok movie but I see his point. It’s so disjointed in its tone and story and it’s done so in a way that it’s clear that the film is an anthology of unrelated vignettes the director pictured in her head with no story to connect it together. The biggest problem is that the story has no through line. C’mon, who’s buying that the dad really believes that’s his son (I know he’s deluded but still) or that people don’t notice right away it’s a woman (what is this, White Chicks?) Or that if you have sex w a car you’ll get knocked up. It goes in and out of erotic fantasy, slasher/body horror, family drama, crime thriller, neo -noir… etc. etc. I don’t know, the director can’t have her cake and eat it too. it’s a fun film and well made but at its core it’s as silly as Aquaman. It’s the type of French arthouse film that invites abstract pointless essays on post modern feminism and societal violence blah blah blah. We get it, the French are intellectually and emotionally superior in all things erotic and dramatic. We must bow before their infinite wisdom. The house that jack built is a brilliant comparison because it can be seen as another pretentious eurotrash film but the difference there is that we know that the main character is evil and the film is consistent in trying to explore a logical window into the mind of a serial killer. The creative decisions there (no matter how nasty, unreliable and surreal) made me really feel like I glimpsed into the mind of an ocd serial killer. Von Trier Had a clear story arc and resolution for his character while exploring the madness of a murderer in a surprisingly coherent way. Titane, by comparison, was just like watching Malignant (which is not a bad thing and that movie was actually my favorite of the year and made me cry at the end albeit I was drunk when I watched it) and tries to justify and make us feel sympathy for an irredeemable character with vague presumptions of past trauma and other stuff that is so poorly thought out that it’s just another attempt to repackage a schlock revenge rape exploitation film under the guise of a French arthouse movie; in other words, it’s trying to be nihilistic for the sake of being nihilistic while feeding us really immature and cliched lazy French moralities. Like I get it, but how about forgiving people and stop blaming other people for your problems? How about going to a therapist? Ugh, I’m writing way too much but the film really has emo kid 🖤 cutting-herself written all over it. It’s a whiny teenager from the lily-white suburbs whining about her local Taco Bell. It’s gaspar noe giving the most anti-consumerist speech while begging for corporate sponsors when no one is looking etc etc. You made an interesting horror movie but don’t try to pretend it’s bloody the greatest story ever told. In short, in the words of Jeff Foxworthy You might be a redneck if you loved Titane… wait I meant hipster

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

the connection is bad writing.

Your take on Titane is lazy. I had to stop watching when you asserted that the movie had no emotional core. You speak so fast in the hopes that your words somehow congeal into coherence, but you only succeed in achieving a boring disdainful tone.

@Jjjcs

2 жыл бұрын

Just like the movie.

@bosky78

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jjjcs you thought the movie had a boring disdainful tone?

@bosky78

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcuswerker You're into that kind of thing?

@seraphini1248

2 жыл бұрын

@@bosky78 it was badly done.

@bosky78

2 жыл бұрын

@@seraphini1248 I thought the film was great. the film's connective tissue is a bit more subtle than other films which might lead to some thinking that there's no overall cohesion.

Just watched it. It's pure garbage.

Yes all the way mate! This movie is garbage! For some reason, every french reviewer gave this movie a 10/10. Why? If anything this movie proves that the jury of Cannes is corrupt therefore that the Palme d'Or is worthless... Short review of this movie: Titane = massive pile of unfocused 💩