In 35 years of motoring, my vehicles wheel nuts have never just come undone. Maybe someone didn't want you to make it home... Glad you're safe bud, keep fighting this...truth will out !

@todtalk3912

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah really, maybe we will hear more from others of wheels falling off hoping then it'd be an insurance pay out n then all will be forgotten or something.

@themessenger5868

3 жыл бұрын

@@todtalk3912 If that were the case, then insurance would be the later in a criminal investigation. One incident could be considered a coincidence...many cars connected to CNC would be a conspiracy. And a very dangerous one at that.

@todtalk3912

3 жыл бұрын

@@themessenger5868 maybe u read my comment unintentionally the wrong way mainly from my lack of ability to write correctly lol. I meant it as though that is cnc's hopes n mentality rather than an insurance company paying everyone or anyone off to then actually relieve cnc of liability of payments owed.

@freddaniali

3 жыл бұрын

@@todtalk3912 Your reply to his comment wasn't that much better.

@themessenger5868

3 жыл бұрын

@@todtalk3912 Oh, I see what you mean...that's a possibility. Personally, I want to see this Clay douch in jail. He's a crook through n' through.

Hey matt, the reason your radio doesn't work is because your battery died and you will need to re-enter the radio code to access it. Check your owners manual for this process. You should have been given an envelope with the radio code for your car. At least that how it was with my F430. BTW agree that you should not spend any significant money on this car until the title and registration are sorted out. Good luck

@VadersRage

3 жыл бұрын

Damn....! I pretty much posted the exact same thing minutes ago! I shoulda read the comments beforehand 😁.

@jeremylarson6267

3 жыл бұрын

And if you are not going to spend money to maintain it, STOP DRIVING IT

Your story reminds me of the 80's motto: What can't be acquired with money can be acquired with more money.

Leave the radio on for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes. The screen will change from wait to either code or underscores at which point you can enter the security code.

I hope you have a lawyer already. Something tells me that the CNC owner is going to flee

@penguin118

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that guy is heading for the hills rn

@kingsfan8888

3 жыл бұрын

His wife already is in Canada

@joerf686

3 жыл бұрын

Mike McCall how do you know

@kingsfan8888

3 жыл бұрын

@@joerf686 friend knows them personally

@ryanyoshimura4652

3 жыл бұрын

Or he just claims bk and nobody gets anything

Wishing you the Best Matt. I can only imagine the frustration this brings to you and your family. Praying you come out on top. Have a great week

Keep on fighting!!! The 360 looks awesome, a manual 360 was my first Ferrari!! I hope everything works out!! Greetings from Sweden!

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

Hej!

Matt, once you get your title you should talk to Dan about a Gated 6 manual conversion. You will be 10 times happier with the car especially in stop and go traffic.

@mateo3388

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think that’s in the near future whatsoever, this guy has had unbelievable issues with this car and has owned it for days, it’s just goin to continue to give him more headaches as time goes on. The last thing he’s concerned about is a Manual

@freddaniali

3 жыл бұрын

@@mateo3388 Yeah, but he says that he is having problems with the F1 system. Converting it would eliminate those shifting problems that he is complaining of. Most people do this rather than just keep pouring money into repairing the F1 components.

@mateo3388

3 жыл бұрын

Fred Daniali who cares at this point. This car doesn’t seem like it’s worth putting a dime into. I’d be out of it as soon as I could be

@freddaniali

3 жыл бұрын

@@mateo3388 Dude look at what I wrote to him.... I suggested that he do it after he gets the title. And why wouldn't it be worth it? It's a freakin' Ferrari 360 Modena! Why would it not be worth money??? It's not like it's a Toyota or something other cheapo used car.

@christschool

3 жыл бұрын

@@freddaniali Shifting problems can be caused by a low voltage battery. You're advocating he go out and spend $30k on a conversion, lol.

Matt. The FIRST THING you should do is join the Auto Club, they can probably do all your DMV stuff and the next time you need a tow truck it's included in their upgraded package. I have used them for 30 + years and don't deal with the DMV unless I need my DL renewed . Get a torque wrench so you will always have the lug nuts on the correct spec.

@SL-jd5cj

3 жыл бұрын

He would have had to have purchased from a private party and have the title signed over for AAA to help register the car. He has to wait on the dealer to submit the transfer.

(previous 360 owner) If an F1 is going into N (neutral) a lot, that generally means the clutch is getting worn

Thanks for the update Matt, good luck with your journey.

Lawyer for sure my man. Good luck. Feel bad for your situation. Keep your head up.

Good luck 🤞🏼😬🤞🏼, once everything is sorted all these crazy times will be just a bad memory and you can finally start enjoying your 360.....it’s truly a great car, you’ll really come to love it 😃👍🏻, sending you positive vibes 👊🏻

Good Luck on this Matt. Been following you on this - and feel your pain. Its still a great car!

Matt, I am a former owner of a 360 challenge stradale, which I just sold not long ago. The behavior you are describing 'popping into neutral' is THE tell tale sign that the clutch is worn beyond service and needs to be replaced soon. If you keep driving it like that, it can overheat things in the gearbox and increase the repair bill, I believe that overheating can cause the flywheel to warp. Try one quick test: Drive at a steady speed, say 40 MPH. Put the car into 6th gear so its kind of lugging. Then floor the gas pedal. Do the revs suddenly shoot up to the redline with the car not really picking up any speed? If yes, that's a confirmed worn out clutch. Sorry for the situation, truly a nightmare. Hopefully you can recoup some costs through youtube ads. Once it's all done with, you will really love the exotic ownership experience. Half of it is the car, the other half is the community and people you'll meet at your local clubs and car shows, stick it out and you'll be rewarded in the end.

@christschool

3 жыл бұрын

Very good advice!

Brother I'm so sorry about what you're having to go through, I have text shared your story to all my friends and also shared it wherever I can to try and help you and get the word out. I pray you get your title and everything goes well.

I bet you’re missing the luggage that came with that car. You should look up the spec plate and see if it came with the luggage. Clay was just found to have tons of Ferrari luggage

@ryanyoshimura4652

3 жыл бұрын

Just saw that video too. Crazy

@f430ferrari5

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanyoshimura4652 I just saw that vid too on Dan’s site. 😂 I shouldn’t laugh but this has just been one big drama after the other. Matt is a great guy sharing all this.

@ListerMotorsports

3 жыл бұрын

he probably needs it to get out of town.................

@actuallypaulstanley

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't this show the attitude of CNC and their sales practices. They have been underhand for years after the 'find' of the masses of Ferrari branded luggage, and the maglite torches too...

@andrewgarcia3136

3 жыл бұрын

@@actuallypaulstanley what's really crazy is that he's held on to it, you would think he would have sold each item as quickly as he could

I have been following your journey and will keep following your channel keep up the good fight..

One thing that seems to be common among CNC customers: they don't seem to be wise "car people."

The 360 I bought from CNC sounds just like yours. This was back in 2014. Mine had similar shifting issues to yours. My throwout bearing turned out to be failing after trying all the F1 stuff you state. Once I stopped going to CNC for service the car started behaving itself although it had LOTS of subsequent issues over the next few years. So sad for you. 24K in maintenance over 3.5 years of ownership on a car that CNC said they "went through".

What an experience.... Hang in there. Your car is a beauty. Best of luck

Sorry for your situation man. Really sucks. Thanks for sharing your story.

Keep us updated sir, sorry you’re going through all this 😔

Matt, these are known for worn shifter bushing at the 50k mark. Your problem popping out of gear is probably a worn shifter bushing and that is a relatively "easy" repair. Pull the shift lever out, you will see the bushing at the base of the shifter. I have seen both nylon bushing as well as brass, the nylon wear too easy. The bushing, when it wears, creates a decrease in gear to gear interface, the gearset actually does not fully engage, which is why when you shift and then apply the throttle it will pop out. A new shift lever bushing will allow a full stroke on the gear set fully seating the gear to gear engagement and you will feel a much tighter shift lever, and most likely terminate your "pop out" issue. BEST TO YOU!

As you're in Northern California, once you get the title and the car registered correctly to you, I'd head over to the Ferrari dealer in Mill Valley and get it sorted.

Good Luck! Don’t worry u keep doing the rite thing then the rite things will work out

Brother I feel your pain what a shitload of bad luck with this car I had the 360 spider and hated every moment of it loads of issues! Followed all your CNC vids , best of luck !!!

Good luck! Thumbs up in support.

Man, this is the gift that keeps on sucking. Let us know how your visit to the DMV works out. Fingers crossed for you buddy!

What an absolute nightmare. I am so sorry you had to go through this.

Please keep us posted on your journey

I'm Soooo glad you got your car back Matt!!! I just subscribed to your channel I like your content👌

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub and watching!

It’s really painful to watch videos, in addition to all the paperwork problems, CNC sold you a lemon. It is a very beautiful model, I hope that justice will come to him and that he will end up behind bars

@f1f278

3 жыл бұрын

They sold him a squeezed out lemon... not even a whole lemon... CNC is done, Clay needs to face reality.

@kampoutkid

3 жыл бұрын

The lesson here is nobody should ever buy a 40k mile Ferrari

@asdaassc8906

3 жыл бұрын

@@kampoutkid it doesn't have to mean, there are a lot of complaints about vehicles sold by CNC, all that matters to them is money....."Now try to avoid the cost .... and later we'll manage somehow when we sell."

@moosehak

3 жыл бұрын

I've had a ferrari 360 modena F1 for 15 years and have never had an issue with it. Never! It's becoming patently obvious that the dealer shafted you. Go after them!

@f1f278

3 жыл бұрын

@@kampoutkid that and/or if youre NOT mechanically minded, then save up more and buy a new Ferrari. You have no business being in the used exotic car market to begin with.... these arent Hondas

Clay probably has your old good battery for sale on ebay. The one he gave you was probably one of his old ones.

@jacksmith8002

3 жыл бұрын

along with his tool kit, flashlight and owners manual

@Grimmes12

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacksmith8002 and luggage set

add attempted manslaughter to the list of clay's charges

360’s are known to have gearbox issues especially early models. You may have to replace it. Hope everything gets better. Sending positive vibes.

@shawnl3151

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t replace the gearbox.

@E46Knight

3 жыл бұрын

The issues he's having with the gears "jumping" into Neural, is due to a faulty 'Gear Position Sensor'. I experienced the same issue with my 2006 BMW E46 M3 (SMG-Paddle Shift).

Good PSA for doing a pretrip before taking delivery of a vehicle & weekly while using to make sure things you can see like fluids, wheels etc are ok. Especially if you have family members with you.

Best of Luck man, from the whole state of Rhode Island ! .....well from me for sure , I’ll ask everyone else in the state , I’ll get back to you in 20 minutes

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings and thanks for watching!

Hey Matt, saw your first video as well. I have a F430 and “pop neutral and flashing dash light” happened to me. A lot of simple diagnosis, but it was the “F1 pump”! Replaced, no problems after year and a half. Common on 360 and f430. Also, if your battery is still bad, that could be it as well, these cars need charged batteries, mine went into “limp mode” dropping out of gear and not engaging till a few seconds. It was the battery, changed it trickle charged it and it was all good. P.s. my passion on the purchase story is just like yours, after years and years of wanting, and finally having it come true was quite the experience, sorry your not enjoying your car as you should be, it’s a shame.

Feel bad for you Matt. Hopefully it all goes well in the end!

Thanks for upping the Sac Town car scene!

I feel sooooooooo bad for you dude :( good luck with this

Matt, I’m in Sacramento also. I’ve never seen your 360 around...but maybe it’s because you rarely had the chance to drive the thing. Following your channel to get updates on your journey. Best of luck my friend!

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

Hello my local friend!

Absolutely gutted for you, wishing you good luck

Apparently the most common cause of "popping into N" on an F1 transmission is the clutch needs done. Take to a tech who has an SD2 ferrari diagnostic tool to check % wear on clutch. Transmission will start popping out of gear at around 70% wear. -- I read 360 F1 clutch repair can cost anywhere from $5 - 10K depending on where it's done. One 360 owner said this: "If the clutch needs replaced the system warns you by putting it into neutral while driving." Another 360 owner said this: "it's always possible that something else is wrong, but these are the classic symptoms exhibited when an F1 clutch is worn out." - Interesting to note as well, is apparently there is a technique to driving an F1 360 if you want to prevent premature wear on the clutch.. -Drive the car like you would a manual at slower speeds. (take foot off gas, then tap paddle to shift, then foot back on gas)

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

I had that measured in January and it’s at 42% wear. My goal was to drive it for about a year and then replace the clutch and do a belt service.

@ferrisbuellersdayoff

3 жыл бұрын

@@FML oh, i see.. hopefully you find the gremlin!

The reason your Ferrari "jumps" out of gear into Neural, is due to a faulty 'Gear Position Sensor'. My 2006 BMW E46 M3 (SMG- Paddle Shift) experienced the same malfunction. I had the 'Gear Position Sensor' and the old Transmission fluid flushed and replaced. After that, the M3 shifts were smoother than ever!! The 'Gear Position Sensor' is located on the Transmission of my BMW M3. I'm almost certain it'll be on the same for your Ferrari. Good luck with that beautiful machine. My dream car is the Ferrari Testarossa (early 80s model).

Good luck!

@3:33 "I was like 'oh MY GOD.' And then my car was like 'whoa' and then I'm all "uh oh" and then my friend Becky was totally like 'Jeez' and then recess was over

Sorry to hear about this, what a nightmare from CNC

FYI, since you purchased your car from a licensed dealer in Calif. the DMV always gives the end user a Title, that would be you, who ever consigned the car will be out of luck, DMV will process a Title in your name once all the dust settles, consigner will get nothing. Hope this helps

Looks like we live in the same area. Hope this works out at the end for you and maybe see you at Euro Sunday/Dreams and Driver/Folsom Car and Coffee etc.....

Sorry to hear about all the issues you have encountered with this dealership, for the symptoms you are describing 2 things come to my mind. A component of the clutch such as pressureplate or/and throwout bearing may be worn out. Or it could also be the actuator that needs alignment. I don't think the ecu needs to be replaced or reflashed.

Good luck 👍

Don’t worry Matt, it’s nothing a little money can’t fix. Enjoy the car. It looks great.

I've been following your story feel really bad for you man this was a dream for you and they ruined it. I hope you have redemption and I do hope you get to experience a much more pleasing owner experience in the years to come with your 360.

Clay the conman Strikes again... Thank God you didn't have a major traffic accident....

Time to take off that CNC license plate frame.

the F1 system on these cars share a some components with the Alfa 147/156 Selespeed. So before buying any expensive Ferrari F1 parts, make sure you cross check with Alfa parts first, Rattarossa knows this very well.

Smart move to NOT pay for any repairs until that baby is in your name. No sense on paying to sort out the car, only to have the car impounded by the courts or something. Check your car's paperwork (owner's manual, etc.). There might be a radio code printed somewhere. When CNC pulled the battery, they cleared the radio of it's code which will render it unusable until the proper code is re-entered. I bet Salerno or Ferr-Parts (actually, the mech shop that's attached to them) could probably help you with the radio issue. I'm just glad there wasn't any body damage to the car when the wheel came off. Hang in there. Once things settle down, I think you're gonna end up loving your car. I'm in your area and hope to see you out and about enjoying the thing.....

New subscriber, sorry you are going through this mess.

I’m so sorry to hear about all your problems, I can only imagine your dreams become your nightmare.

Clay wanted you to meet your maker so you wouldn't hassle him about the broken car he sold you...

I'm so sorry. What happens when dealing with a con artist.

I bought my 430 from Georgia last year. Sales tax was around 6300. When I went to the DMV they said that would be an additional 3300 hundred because California sales tax is higher. Another thing that's happening now, is when I'm slowing down in 2 gear the car starts jerking. It's an F1 transmission. You can't help but get that sinking feeling of, how much is this going to cost me. I love the car, but I'm afraid of break downs.

@FML

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds about right. I paid a little over $8k in tax. CA taxes suck!!

Car looks great. Wishing you luck at the DMV getting title straight.

keep chasing the title...............

So sorry you have dealt with these people. I had had major issues with my 430 on work that was done in another state. I found one of the best mechanics in Los Angeles through the local Los Angeles Ferrari club and he fixed all my problems. When you get your title I suggest you get a complete PPI and find a trusted mechanic in your area. The local Ferrari club will recommend someone in Northern California. If you want the car you will have to fix it. For car insurance I use Hagerty. They are the best for collector cars. I had friends that had claims with them and they were really good at responding back to my friends. They are well respected. The owner of CNC belongs in jail. Unbelievable the stories I have heard about. He sounds like a con man.

Take it to the car wizard!!!

Your shifting issue maybe a relatively easy fix I had that issue with my 360. It maybe low pressure in the F1 system or it wasn't bled properly and air is in the line. If I was close I would take a look at it for you.

I swear I saw you driving the 360 on Truxel Rd. in Sacramento last Wednesday. I hope you get this all figured out soon!

I'm a Heavy duty mechanic and we have heat exchangers fail all the time and take out the clutches in the transmission auxiliary section all the time. Sorry to say that you are likely looking at replacing the transmission. other than that, thank you for the videos, i'm keeping up with your story as it develops

That sucks, that’s a beautiful 360

best of luck, Fight the Fight !!!!!

I sort of went through something similar title wise this year with buying a used toyota, lol. I was expecting a title in 30 days and didn't really worry when it was late because of covid slowing things down. ended up being 6+ months to get anything done! I found the dealer went defunct or something, maybe would have to pay off financing if they delivered the title. It was still in the dealer name and I had to file a complaint with the Attorney Generals office in my state. AG office was awesome, and I had the clean title a about 6 weeks later. Good luck, and I hope you don't have any problems, but there's a nice outcome story if you do!

Keep up with the channel and maybe you can earn some money with the journey on getting this car sorted. Wish you all the best!

Nice car dude

I'm drinking one for you tonight Matt. You'll get through this!

Since you’re in the bay, I recommend checking out Issimi Meccanica in San Carlos. They are a Ferrari-focused shop with a world class team.

You can always start a go fund me for the wheel nut lol , secondhand Cars Battery ,Air Con and a lot more not covered by any Car sales Company when sold to the next person to walk in . Ps was a pre car check ever done if so go back at them for the wheels not done to torque spec.

Good luck bro.

Matt I feel for you bud but honestly after seeing that they left the studs loose on the wheels. It makes me wonder what else they didn't tighten down that is important. From following your journey I understand the drivetrain may have been pulled to fix the gear issues. I'd stop driving the car until it's fully inspected to check all bolts are properly torqued to spec. You would hate to have a brake caliper slip off because the bolts fly out. Have it all carefully inspected. Keep us posted on the DMV update.

Poor Guy that really sucks bro good luck

Jesus, I would have taken it back. This story is just nuts.

Oh Jezz....good luck with this car! I don't know if I would wanted any longer! Just go and clarify this plz....

There will still be a line at 6 due to appointments. I'm in Folsom and had a nightmare registering my r8 from Florida.

Man I feel this guy

You make your own luck, You wanted a Ferrari.

Good luck guys 🌈

dude id be pissed having this amount of problems after buying a car I've wanted for soo long! damn!! may all the stars align for your situation and grant you ultimate reward and happiness and also bring torment and shame to those that were responsible for putting you in a situation cause by them!!! Wallah

@3:39 Valley girl accent 😂😂😂 glad you're ok brother

I'd come up to speed with any lemon laws for california? I feel so bad for you. Good luck and keep us posted.

That’s insane. Best bet would be to bite the bullet get a full 200 point inspection from the Ferrari dealer. Shifting into neutral sounds like a small electrical/device malfunction/failure. The dealer would identify inside 20 minutes.

Did your car come with the luggage set and tool kit? If not contact normal guy super car

You should consider contacting NBC television and more specifically the staff at "American Greed " . This show and their staff are really good at getting information and exposing people and businesses such as the one you are describing. It appears to be a very unfortunate pattern and I am sure your caller email would encourage them to reach out to many others. Just food for thought.

Clay Thom-West Coast Bobby Khan.

So sorry, dude!

Is there a security safety function within the stereo head unit that needs to be reset because it was possibly tripped/set off and locked in a security mode when the battery was disconnected and reconnected?

@trigun989

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely. I have this in my 2007 Civic lol

Don't quit Matt. You walked into a hornets nest on this one and your excitement and lack of experience made it worse. Even then in hindsight its hard to see what was going on at this dealer and how bad it would become. Usually, excitement and lack of experience bites you in the butt by costing you a bunch of money in repairs. It will. I have experience on this front too! In your case you got it even worse because what looked like a reputable dealer through most peoples eyes ended up being a fraud. Lots of us could have fallen into the same mess in this regard. I just purchased a vehicle in a similar manner from a small dealer in Arizona. I could easily have found myself in the same position looking back on how I did the deal. I hung myself out there stupidly. Luckily this dealer was reputable. Big balls by you to post all of this on KZread for all of us to learn. Obviously if you can't trust the lug nuts you can't trust anything on that car. Stop driving it, work on cleaning it, learning all about the history, go through all of the nooks and crannies and enjoy it in your garage. Someone posted this but the radio probably lost its code during the battery debacle. If you can't find that code then there must be a way to retrieve it via the dealers. I know on our old Porsche we can retrieve the code via the VIN and a call to the dealer. Following your journey. Good luck Bud!

Not sure when it ends but it will. Hang in there.

how could they replace a heat exchanger but not do any of the rest of the mx? idk about that car but heat exchanges are typically stuffed between the dash and fire wall, or in that case being a rear engine i am guessing behind the seats and fire wall.