I like the Orville as it's probably the closest thing we'll ever get to a Galaxy Quest TV Series. But do you watch Red Dwarf out of curiosity?

@Rikalonius

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Homage that is both parody and respectful of that which they parody.

@NihilusShadow

5 жыл бұрын

Red Dwarf is amazing.

@SuperLloyd84

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Flibble's going to be very cross if you don't watch his episode.

@billycooke6208

5 жыл бұрын

huge fan of red dwarf since 93. top 5 series of mine. all time

@TV-jn4dh

5 жыл бұрын

That comparison convinced me to try it.

Sounds like the "critics" jackets didn't have enough Zippers Orville fans will know what I mean. 💚👽

@davidplashify

5 жыл бұрын

Boom!

@stardude2006

5 жыл бұрын

David L 👽👍🏼 Sweetness....

@willywood6508

5 жыл бұрын

Needs one more zipper!

@RedManDrew

5 жыл бұрын

Lol, excellent!!

@shadowvessel

5 жыл бұрын

Always go with one more zipper than you're comfortable with...

My wife and I, both in our 70s, love this show. It’s clever and fun. It’s never dark longer than a few seconds.

@wills242

2 жыл бұрын

“Too dark, too real! wife creature starting to grow angry….! Do not upset menopausal airspace beep beep” Lol. Cheers mate.

The modern media is akin to a laugh track, with a lot less influence.

@Sean-un7ok

4 жыл бұрын

Nice burn! However, the "Married with Children" laugh track is a classic!

@darylesells19

4 жыл бұрын

+Sean Lowry Also The Golden Girls. It’s one of the rare shows where you feel as if the laugher fits for the most part.

@kameronwright9925

Ай бұрын

Que the big bang theory

To quote Rich Evans,the man the myth the legend:'' STD feels like a show,made by people who don't know anything about Star Trek and is the exact opposite of everything Star Trek stands for.The show is called ''discovery'' and the only thing they're doing is blowing shit up! Stop blowing shit up and do some actual exploration,ffs. The fact,that Seth McFarlane's Orville,feels more Star Trek,then the official Star Trek speaks for itself.''

@jasongamer8649

5 жыл бұрын

Rich said it even better in an earlier episode, "Star Trek is supposed to be a future that you actually want to live in". STD was just a depressing hellish future no one is hoping for.

@grippercrapper

5 жыл бұрын

Watching Seth's Orville makes it pretty damn clear that Seth is a true Star Trek fan.

@Blakblooded

5 жыл бұрын

When Mike asked Rich "what was the point of the season?" To which Rich replied "I don't know? Let's blow stuff up and let's have battles. Then in the last 10 minutes let's tack on a "war am bad" message." Both Mike and Rich seem to genuinely love Trek for what Roddenberry wanted it to be. A story of exploration, discovery (somewhat a tainted word now) and making a better world that the viewers would actually want to be a part of (as Jason Gamer said).

@darkhawk123

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Rich only ever watched Next Gen.

@mucsdnop

5 жыл бұрын

@@grippercrapper He's such a fan he made his way onto two episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise. Brief moments but still more than most could ever dream. (Season 3 Episode 20 and Season 4 Episode 15)

I'm still floored that first female critic was all like 'is there no female characters I can identify with... blah blah blah". That's one of the great things I like about the Orville, well-developed characters with interconnectivity with the other characters. For instance, I see Alara and Kelly's relationship best resembling a younger sister/ older sister relationship. This pairs well with the Alara's insecurities about being pretty young for her position, in comes Kelly who acts as both a mentor and a friend.

@dragoninthewest1

5 жыл бұрын

@Zero .Karma they're not evil, at least I sure most aren't. Evil requires one to understand what they do is wrong and continue to doing it because in their head it benefits themsomehow ie Palpatine in Star Wars. SJWs are something altogether more dangerous; they are Zealots. They believe what they do is for the greater good, anyone who criticizes is Evil (othering), and because of that the ends justify the means. They seem have given up their sense of empathy as they are so emotionally attached to their idea, I don't think their brains have any neurons left dedicate towards that emotion.

@marvnuts

5 жыл бұрын

I think the critic reviews are based on the pilots only. STD's Michelle Yeoh was simply a guest star and the Orville's dick jokes were toned down quite a bit as the season went on.

@teddys5775

5 жыл бұрын

She cant identify with a character on the show because they dont have a character who only has traits that i cant describe on youtube without getting reported.

@edwardcullen1739

5 жыл бұрын

"There's none so deaf as those that will not hear, none so blind as those who will not see."

@goawayleavemealone2880

5 жыл бұрын

Well how on Earth could a weak pathetic whiny little girl identify with a strong and powerful woman?

The Orville is one of the best sci-fi shows in the last ten years.

@thedayidied

3 жыл бұрын

I really, really agree. And I understand how people say it's a blatant ripoff of Star Trek, but I look at it as Orville pays homage to Star Trek (including having Star Trek actors on the show) while at the same time exploring issues in a new and modern way. I absolutely LOVED Orville, and I am a massive Trekkie.

@leonardodavinci7425

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@majorgear1021

2 жыл бұрын

nope. its boring and preachy.

@lopezlopez7132

Жыл бұрын

The Orville? Terrible show! It's not a "homage" to Star Trek, it's complete plagiarism, but it's 100 times worse than the Star Trek episodes they plagiarized. The acting is amateurish, direction is awful, computer animations are like in a cartoon. The worst!

@user-su1xk3mv2b

Жыл бұрын

@@lopezlopez7132 I love it Lopez lol

It‘s amazing that the “Orville“ can address cultural issues like gender reassignment, homosexuality, technophilia, Awkward wall flowers, strong women, everyday schmo, religious fanaticism, family strife, etc. into a program that shows both sides without overt judgment. Simply defining the human condition with wit. The drama may not be all flash bang, but neither was the original series of “Star Trek“, which addressed cultural issues of the time. The OST covered technophobia, political suicide, race inequality, gender inequality, and so forth. In a machismo way but look at the other programs of the time.

This is why I never listen to critics anymore.

@Keihryon

5 жыл бұрын

This is why I never listened to critics in the first place.

@AC-gb7do

5 жыл бұрын

Critics are shit. Liz Miller, talking to you..

@tarrantwolf

5 жыл бұрын

I listen to critics, if they don't like it then it's probably going to be decent at least or even great.

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

Concerning critics, checkout The Twilight Zone's The Misfortunate Cookie. I can only say he got his just desserts. Pardon the pun.

@campkira

5 жыл бұрын

Never bother reading them on the first place.

Critics don’t even watch what they’re reviewing anymore.

@kuhpunkt

5 жыл бұрын

Nonsense.

@loubertloubert

5 жыл бұрын

They just look at the skin colour and gender of the leading actors and judge it accordingly.

@kuhpunkt

5 жыл бұрын

That's utter bullshit.

@Hinatachan360

5 жыл бұрын

All critcs care about is identity politics while the audience just wants to be entertained and have some escspism.

@kuhpunkt

5 жыл бұрын

That's not true. Who even is "they"?

Professional critics really are not needed anymore.

@neiloch

5 жыл бұрын

They know it, too. Thats why they don't hesitate to dump on 'audience voting' systems and youtubers. They can be replaced by someone who can talk in a half way coherent manner and post videos.

@meghanachauhan9380

4 жыл бұрын

@@neiloch they have never been relevant. Half their scores are funded, the other half are things people don't care about. So many franchises that appealed to "experts" got destroyed by the public

@dimitriwarchief301

2 жыл бұрын

They were never needed

Discovery blah you want a star trek show with female lead....Voyager....

@761jared

5 жыл бұрын

No, a MINORITY female lead. I don't have any issues with it, but the timing during this current social agenda makes it suspect. Really, how many additional minorities or women gravitate to that show simply because of this character?

@kuttispielt7801

4 жыл бұрын

Jadzia also wasnt a character i would describe as weak

none.. NONE of these so called "pros" have watched a full episode of Orville let alone 2 or 3. Orville, while its humor can be a bit jarring sometimes, the stories are first class and harken back to the 90's when we had awesome scifi shows.

@indigetes

5 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the new chapter? I love how they can make a great episode around a mundane tasks such as peeing.

@goshen574

5 жыл бұрын

Vindicator Jones and knew how to laugh st ourselves

@stephenschneekloth1535

5 жыл бұрын

The humor is part of what makes it so good because that's how real people act.

@gwcrispi

5 жыл бұрын

You can tell that all of the "professionals" only watched it because they had to in order to review it. They probably aren't regular watchers of The Orville or STD. But when they watched that one episode of STD, it hit all of their SJW hot buttons, so 5 stars!

@frodofraggins

5 жыл бұрын

It, like voyager and Enterprise, are far too derivative of TNG. It's no coincidence that all of those shows had hack Braga in a key role.

Seriously, do we really need professional critics at all any more? I am a huge fan of Star Trek since the beginning watching it growing up as a child. I greatly enjoy The Orvill!

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy The Orville too. Everyone's a critic.

@samuraisoul2

5 жыл бұрын

@@Emanuela9 True that!

@orlock20

5 жыл бұрын

Most critics aren't the type of critics people use to use.

@thesisko4031

5 жыл бұрын

Id take a youtube critic who does it on the side for fun and make a little money over a pro critic any day.

@commentfreely5443

5 жыл бұрын

95% google users score.

I like the Orville it make me care about the characters and the plot

@dimitriwarchief301

2 жыл бұрын

That. Really means nothing That can be said for anything Robozuna Asterix It just hit you that way You and I are just somebody’s where not special

I genuinely thought the Orville was a Star Trek show until I looked it up like 10 seconds later. That show was absolute pure gold. I mean it was pretty much everyday normal people with everyday normal problems exploring space. They weren’t characters that were automatically overpowered with little flaws like a lot of tv shows. They were just people we could relate to. And I was truly sad when I reached the final episode on Hulu.

What I’ve learned today 1. Official Critics are full of bs and so isn’t to be listened to 2. Fan reviews and ratings will give me a more honest opinion

@pepegalego

5 жыл бұрын

No, fans are fans and like what they see. They are therefore not honest, but very baised. Example; Millions of fans rate reality shows very highly. Would you agree?

@otbaht

5 жыл бұрын

I trust fan reviews so much more than the official critics personally. People I trust and feel like i know to an extent. KZreadrs are more like low tier friends than random people if i watch them enough honestly.

@cinnamonbarnes9058

5 жыл бұрын

Pepe Galego the example still makes the show a show of merit. If millions of people are watching and scoring it good scores then it means that it’s something that I might like to check out

@pepegalego

5 жыл бұрын

@@cinnamonbarnes9058 Definitely. Take your pick: big brother, the voice, masterchef, Jersey shore, the bachelor, that show where people try on wedding dresses...

@cinnamonbarnes9058

5 жыл бұрын

Pepe Galego sure those shows are bad but based off the fan base alone it would appear to be at least decent. Not all shows with high fan scores will be good. but they will bring these shows to your attention to check out and decide what you like.

The media saw the social credit system episode of The Orville and had to try to stop it before it warned everyone about their plans.

@markwelschmeyer2426

5 жыл бұрын

that was for the most outrageous plot until i learned it has been implemented in China. it really wok me up to how out of touch i am since i left fb and had stopped reading comment in youtube videos.

@Lazypackmule

5 жыл бұрын

It was also a black mirror episode a couple years back Though Orville's take on it is less about scary technology and more a classically styled moral tale about mob rule and unchecked large scale democracy that happened to use tech

@garrettdark5668

5 жыл бұрын

That was the episode which I felt the Orville found their stride and got everything working properly. The comedy before then was falling for me and sticking out too much, but after then everything seemed to mesh well.

@bazzaro1982

5 жыл бұрын

That was a great episode and definitely could be used as teaching material to people how dangerous mob mentality/justice can be.

@garrettdark5668

5 жыл бұрын

@Brian - "how dangerous mob mentality/justice can be" You mean democracy....or "absolute democracy" is what they called it in the episode. 1st world countries are constitutional monarchies or republics (follows the rule of laws), not democracies. Democracy just means voting, and that's what their whole planet was governed by, not mobs (which is more like that TOS gangster planet).

Star Trek Discovery is such a disappointment :( The Orville is such a nice surprise :)

@veritastime9522

5 жыл бұрын

Hmmmmm discovery is a massive success, the awful has lost viewers and only got a renewal because it was given a tax break thus making it cheaper to make. Don't let your butthurt get you down 😂

@curseofgladstone4981

5 жыл бұрын

@@veritastime9522 Still doesn't mean we have to like it. And calling someone butthurt is pretty immature. I just watched the last episode of season 2 and it was plot holes galore. True I laughed at bits but Meh.... There is that in orville but to a much lesser degree.

@buggerlugz6753

4 жыл бұрын

@@veritastime9522 - If Donald Trump is the reason Discovery gets another season then that'll be another reason not to watch the garbage.

@buggerlugz6753

4 жыл бұрын

Agree completely. Everything that was wrong about Discovery is right about Orville.

@abcdezxyz4772

4 жыл бұрын

I like both but in fact Discovery is not what fans of the series want.

I’m not a big fan of Seth McFarlane, but I really like his work with “The Orville.” It feels more like “Star Trek” than the new CBS “Star Trek Discovery” does. I think his appreciation of the ST franchise has guided him in making a series that is different, yet pays homage to the original ST.

Just remember, if critics give it a super low score...it's probably worth watching. ---- %Takes hat off for memoriam%

@rebornandrecharged3819

5 жыл бұрын

Even Suicide Squad?

@scottcantdance804

5 жыл бұрын

And always click the rotten tomatoes entry to actually view it, because when you Google the name of the show or movie, Google shows you the critic score, not the audience score.

@eldermillennial8330

5 жыл бұрын

My rule is if a critic gives a negative review that is ABSOLUTELY gut bustlingly funny, then they are almost certainly correct. The funnier the negative review, the worse it is, and should be avoided. If a negative review is full of pompous elitist word salads and Postmodern jargon, however, like the critics typically gave for Orville, then I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.

@jensaversjo316

5 жыл бұрын

@@eldermillennial8330 Yeah, that feels like a good way to go about it. The short snippets shown in the vid felt...I dunno, like fake reviews? Like "Word word word"

@openfbtd

5 жыл бұрын

This has been true for the horror genre for a while. Critics tend to misunderstand horror a lot, it's just not a controversial issue. Just a tired one.

Doctor Who now 25% & crashing, noticeably the Aquaman film which is pissing critics off for NOT being PC, has done $105 million at the box-office! I wonder why

@adamdavies1068

5 жыл бұрын

Best we call Sherlock Holmes, its a fuckin mystery:)

@s.g.3898

5 жыл бұрын

From what I hear they don't even count the 1/2 star ratings so the MINIMUM is 20%. And its under 25%. That is a lot worse than it might first appear.

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

@@adamdavies1068 or Holmies

@DSan-kl2yc

5 жыл бұрын

It's weird since Jason mamoa is mixed and it has a message about it over "pureness". Isn't that PC.

@ThomasDailey

5 жыл бұрын

You talking about the same Aquaman with a fresh RT score?

This is how I put my “to watch” lists today: If the movie got low score by RT but high score by audience, I will put it on top of the list.

Orville feels cheap?! WHAT?! Its more Star Trek than Star Trek! Plus it has comedy, good storytelling and characters you ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT! Critics are sickos!

@mikel6090

2 жыл бұрын

It definitely feels cheap and the writing wasn't that good, same with the acting. It's why I only made it in a few episodes before I quit watching.

@sguinn91

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikel6090 Star Trek or Orville? Just curious.

@mikel6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@sguinn91 Orville. Star Trek, while I haven't enjoyed the latest season and plan on stopping watching it, at least had good writing the first couple seasons, great character design, and good acting. Orville is well below those standards

@sguinn91

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikel6090 We talking about Discovery or just Star Trek in General? If you watch Discovery, that's fine. I'm not gonna judge you for it!

@mikel6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@sguinn91 Discovery. And what's to judge? I love Trek, its why I started watching Discovery. Orville still doesn't compare to it as I said earlier.

I really enjoy the Orville, so glad it was picked up for a second season.

@RtistiqSkubie

5 жыл бұрын

S2E2 Primal Urges is the best episode, hands down, for the series.

@slewone4905

5 жыл бұрын

it can only be made on Fox lets see what happens when Disney takes over

@garrettdark5668

5 жыл бұрын

First 15 mins into both season 2 episodes I kept thinking, "man, they should have done a more actiony external plot for the season openers" but then the episodes completely changes my mind and I walk away thinking "damn, those were solid good episodes, I was wrong".

The Orville is really good... critics are wrong again..

@VauxhallViva1975

5 жыл бұрын

In the last few years, when have they ever actually been right? (rhetorical) Everything they they love, the audience hates, and everything they hate, the audience loves. Something funny going on here....

@onusgumboot5565

5 жыл бұрын

@@VauxhallViva1975 it was like that as far back as the '70's. I got used to reading the critics reviews, and if they hated it, I would go see it. I will probably like it. The more critics like a show, the more determined to avoid it I would be

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

I liked this episode and to me it looked even better than last year's. I like Jason Alexander as a bar tender. I also loved his lines. This guy is savvy. The first season I passed on the DVD but if this season is like this episode, I'll buy the DVD. You're a bad mom. 😆

@ableasdale2000

5 жыл бұрын

Critics aren't "wrong". They are consciously engaging in social engineering -- it's totally transparent. Critics (like the rest of the mainstream media) have lost all credibility for me.

@georgedavies7639

5 жыл бұрын

You are aware that film is all subjective right?

I wasn't a star trek fan before I started watching the Orville. But I started watching star trek BECAUSE of the orville. I can't get enough of it

@badsports2684

4 жыл бұрын

Sexual transmitted disease

@CaptainHessi

3 жыл бұрын

Now thats a great story, thanks! Usually its the other way around :D What is your favourite Star Trek show so far?

@bmwfury8103

3 жыл бұрын

My plan right now is finish the orville, then start on star trek. I actually found the orville from a simulator on steam (my love of space drove me to get the game). Ended up watching the pilot, liked it. Episode 2-3 were honestly terrible, but it got so much better as time went on.

@ryuoh6928

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I had never seen Star Trek: TNG until after I finished this; and the best thing is, I feel like that was Seth's plan. Kudos.

@teqfreak

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, you are in for a treat. Just skip over discovery and picard. There is nothing there. I still watch one of the star trek shows in total each year. Already for more than a decade (since when i first discovered it)

I love all Star Trek (except discovery) but The Orville is BRILLIANT - & I wasn’t a Seth McFarlane fan

@fleshanthos

3 жыл бұрын

If you liked JJJerk DREK movies, then you don't know what Trek is.

@roelven1282

2 жыл бұрын

im still not a seth fan... and the orville is mediocre in my eyes... on par with voyager

@lester9230

2 жыл бұрын

@@roelven1282 wdym voyager is the best

My wife doesn't like Star Trek but loves The Orville, it's the only Trek show we can watch together, what does that tell you? Seth is better at getting new people into Star Trek than CBS!

@TheaterPup

5 жыл бұрын

It tells me Orville is nothing like Star Trek. Not that Discovery is either. Sometimes there's no obvious solution.

@Spicy_Meatball

5 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people see Star Trek as too cerebral or for nerds and The Orville is a great way to get new people into trek. They come into it thinking it is just a spoof and end up seeing episodes reminisent of Next Gen. Is it a lot like Galaxy Quest? yes, but it gets people into the genre and they might be more likely to check out the other Treks they might not have because they automatically dismissed them as for nerds. We all started watching Trek somewhere, many loved the shows of next gen era onwards but initially didn't like the original series because trekkie meant you were a nerd or the sets were cheesy but after you fell in love with trek you gain an appreciation for all trek and saw the origial series for its great stories and actors. I think that is what CBS and STD failed they tried to make a new trek to bring new people in they made a show that was more Star Wars than Star Trek, all action and no substance. Not saying that the original Star Wars didn't have substance, but the recent batch of movies, The Last Jedi, have been all flash. Star Trek has always had stories that made you think and Star Wars was always the more action/adventure of the two franchises.

@joelaton1062

5 жыл бұрын

@@Spicy_Meatball The fact is, most of us that love Trek are between our 40's and 60's or 70's. Trek had become stagnant and boring. I thought Voyager was god awful, and DS9 started so slow. It got rolling by the end though. I work at a elementary school, and a 4th grade teacher asked me how do they as teachers compete with technology such as video games and tablets etc to keep kids attention. My point is that the younger generation's entertainment is fast paced. A tng style show will not appeal to them. And the original audience is all getting older. What were they supposed to do? I thought discovery was ok, it had some good action and scenes. It is not ground breaking by any means. I don't get all obsessed with all this SJW stuff like some of you it seems, so that does not bother me. I just think they had to try to bring in new fans.

@PlasmaCoolantLeak

5 жыл бұрын

Same here! Wife can't get into any of ST, but does enjoy "The Orville" as much as I do.

@comicblueswithjonygitar36

5 жыл бұрын

This is the CLASSIC npc critique! same as Last Jedi, "my wife doesn't even like star wars but she loved LJ!" "My wife is white wine drinker but loves Gallo rose'!" Implies in ignorant amateur who doesn't know the shot qualifies as a critic? This episode is a Love Boat ripoff of Amok Time, but as usual for Orville, lacks any seriousness or emotional maturity. Orville is blackish in space. Captain Kuck is pathetic. Kelly loves humiliating him over and over, and apparently there's a class of person, your wife, that enjoys watching that. Also stalking ginger, gross, hitting on the new crew immediately, then getting help to inappropriately harass her, for laughs! Awesome. Ps i bet the new crew hottie is an alien spy laying a trap, krill? She's a krill in disguise. The end of the world is nigh

High five! Massive fan of The Orville.

@Thiborfirenz

5 жыл бұрын

what network do i need to watch the Orville (im in the uk)

@simonbutterfield4860

5 жыл бұрын

@@Thiborfirenz there is a Fox channel on cable and sky but I don't know if they're showing it here. Other than that iTunes and Amazon prime

@CopturGobot

5 жыл бұрын

@@simonbutterfield4860 you can watch it using NowTV

@andersforsgren3806

5 жыл бұрын

Yep same here Geekin, previous massive fan of ST and SW - now in recovery. But yes, Orville fits the bill. And as our Nerdrotic mate up there said. Revieweirds, film and TV show makers seem to think that having a massive amount of darkness, pain and death make stuff epic. There's no reason to kill billions on Vulcan or those guys who got exterminated at the Alliance planets. It make things painful, let there be a threat of the same magnitude and the heroes show the best of humanity by all Sisu (no term in english - google that word if anyone is q-rious) and beat that threat against impossible odds - that's a hero story that'll get good ratings. Happy new year - 1 h 20 mins now! ;)

@mattlane2282

5 жыл бұрын

lol after heading this shit... I don't have cable tv... how the fuck do I give the Orville money, ratings, etc. rofl.

Boy all the “critics” jumped on board for season 2. Lmao

My favorite character is Bortus. He is SIMPLEY hilarious. He is like the Maclan version of Hank Hill.

@alandarst9066

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

@Nakall

5 жыл бұрын

YOU WILL BE SILENT!!!

@JOECANDELA22

4 жыл бұрын

Remember the episode that deals with porn addiction? Oh my God that was so well done. Nice balance between entertainment and a subtle message of a current issue that exists in our world.

so true, std is completely unrecognizable as a star trek series but gene rodenbury would instanly reconize the orville as a spiritual descendant of star trek

Critic reviews = The 1% Fan reviews = The 99% For years now, if critics say it is bad, I will watch it, if they say it is good, I will not watch it. Excluding shows/movies where you know it will be good.

@inthefade

5 жыл бұрын

True. I watched Bright on Netflix solely because reviews were terrible for it. I really enjoyed it, especially as someone who played Shadowrun as a kid.

@spencers4121

5 жыл бұрын

@MrTrainerGuy1 Bright was on Netflix early last year, should still be on there as it was an original.

@spencers4121

5 жыл бұрын

@MrTrainerGuy1 Oh no idea on Orville don't have Netflix, Orville season 2 just started 2nd episode is tonight.

@lkvideos7181

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much summs up RT from the very beginning. Why does it even exist ?

@SpreadingtheMuse

5 жыл бұрын

@@lkvideos7181 Some of us dont respect fan reviews. The scene in that movie Idiocracy, where the audience is laughing at a movie of nothing but an idiots buttcheeks...is far too close to reality. Bare boobies = Good movie. No boobies = Bad movie. In terms of who has given me bad advice on movies more often, critics or fans...its fans. By far. They said Batman vs Superman was good, it sucked. They said Suicide Squad was good...it sucked.

MacFarlane actually pushed to be on Star Trek. Had a bit part on the Enterprise. I can't say that for a single member of Discovery's cast and crew.

@rbartow22

5 жыл бұрын

And how would you know? Did you know that Tyler Perry was a closet Star Trek fan up until his role in 2008 movie? I guarantee you didn't because he said as much after getting the part. How about Simon Pegg? He loved Trek and Wars both. Nerds come in all shapes and sizes and I'm sure you knew or followed none of the primary actors in the series at great detail.

@5crassrocker

4 жыл бұрын

@@rbartow22 that's because most people have lives, and girlfriends and stuff like that.

@nurlindafsihotang49

3 жыл бұрын

Because the innitial proposal bruh. Seth actually made proposal for it. Look it up.

@teqfreak

2 жыл бұрын

With the Orville you can feel love for Star Trek, with STD you only feel hate for star trek. STD always leaves me sad, its like watching a video of a friend being abused.

Rotten tomatoes is a joke when I saw black panther had 99% I knew not to listen to their reviews.

My wife also doesn't like Family Guy but watched the Orville for the first time and loved it!

@thephantomoftheparadise5666

5 жыл бұрын

Liked the first few seasons but the show seems angry nowadays.

@ricksmith6637

5 жыл бұрын

no one with any brains likes family guy compared to peter griffin homer simpson is a genius

@peytonmac1131

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think MacFarlane has had much to do with the writing of Family Guy since the first couple of seasons, he only provides the voices now-a-days. He can be pretty funny when he gets past his ego.

@campkira

5 жыл бұрын

There are reason the guy have 100 project per year.

The majority (us, the audience) makes the Film and TV industry their money (we are the ones that will pay and view), therefore, what the audience thinks, should mean a lot more to them than what the clueless critics think.

@TheaterPup

5 жыл бұрын

How sad that fandoms have become as obsessed with money as the studios they complain about.

@davecasey4341

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with pretty much everything you said except the part about "clueless critics." They aren't clueless. They know exactly what they're doing. They are answering the dog whistle that is being blown by the studios and when they are told to "roll over", they ask, "How many times?" It's quite obvious that most of the TV and movie critics are in the pocket of the studios.

@ChuckstaGaming

5 жыл бұрын

@@davecasey4341 LOL, nicely said and very true :)

I've never seen "Star Trek" Discovery (apparently it's shit). But The Orville is *amazing*! Great writing, great stories, great philosophy. It's as good as any other Star Trek series (and maybe even consistently better than some). If you're a Star Trek fan (and I'm a huge one), you should absolutely check out The Orville. Sure, there may be no canon Star Trek series currently producing new episodes for television, but with The Orville we're covered.

@roelven1282

2 жыл бұрын

seen every startrek movie/ serie out there, some series even multiple multiple multiple times.... the arrogant face of Seth makes some episodes unwatchable, he isnt a stable- captain picard from the old days, that delivers ALWAYS a constant.... seth is nothing more then a mediocre actor and it shows (sorry for having high standards) so all in all ... the serie gets an C- for me... and even that is stretching

@mikel6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@roelven1282 Yes, exactly! While I found Discovery to having become quite tiresome, at least it's writing and acting was a lot better.

Love the Orville, of course they took a couple episodes to hit their stride. The Orville is the ONLY current show that feels like Star Trek.

Seth has always wanted to do a Star Trek show , he even said he wanted family guy to end so he could do it. Happy that the show is clearly made with passion

@garrettdark5668

5 жыл бұрын

Seth's apparently a big Star Trek fan, he had a cameo in a ENT episode. I think he even pitched the Orville to CBS to be an official Star Trek show, but they rejected him in favor of STD so Seth just went ahead to do it on Fox instead. Hats off to Seth for not taking "no" for an answer, making it happen anyways, and following his vision of the show/ST.

see and I don't get why the critics wouldn't love the orville. It's a pretty progressive show. Of course they are a bit more diplomatic. Whenever they meet a different civilization they don;t immediately seek to shame and berate them for not being progressive. So what gives? Diverse cast between race and gender. Commander Botris is from a completely homosexual society. They have a xenophobic alien on board who can still work with everyone. The ship is full of non-humans who work together and occasionally 'get down tonight'. The captain and senior officer are a divorced couple that still manage to keep a productive professional relationship. I don't get it. It's a show where people aren't divided and are seeking their fulfillment together. Maybe that's why the critics hate it. Not enough people hating one another to suit their agenda.

@erikhill6037

5 жыл бұрын

1. Its not serial. Newer scifi and even most shows now have an overall plot and are sequential. You should shuffle most of the orville episodes and show them and the show would still make sense. At the end of the episode the issue is overcame, life onboard turns to normal until the next episode. I can see where someone who professionally watches TV would get annoyed with that. Its old style. It also works great for casual watchers. 2. Its not dark. Dark, moody and gritty is popular right now. The Orville is bright and optimistic. It takes from the ideas of theming of the 80's and 90's. Its used and recycled to the critics. 3. frat humor is a blackball. A lot of these critics are likely middle aged adults work. Work and frat humor generally doesn't mix.

@turdfurguson2609

5 жыл бұрын

The Orville does have some problems. Humans are playing alien species. That is some form of cultural appropriation, even if it is fictional.

@TheMetalOverlord

5 жыл бұрын

@@erikhill6037 But Doctor Who season 11 is exactly the same thing you said in point 1 and 2. It's even less sequential and way more bright and optimistic than The Orville. Still, critics love and praise that Doctor Who season. That is the proof that they only care about SJW agenda and everything that is not a 100% SJW pandering will be destroyed by them.

@who9598

5 жыл бұрын

So are all the haters women? Are they real critics? Love the spirit and the idea of the show.

@TheMetalOverlord

5 жыл бұрын

@@who9598 They are real "critics", or for better saying, that is their job, but many of them have no real qualification to do it, most of them are hired based on political agenda. Also they are not only women, but men too, they are called white knights, look online for that definition. They basically defend those SJW women hoping for one day to fuck some of them.

The Orville reminds me of Firefly. I LOVE it. It has great characters and story lines. I care about these people. Massively rewatchable. More please !

THANK YOU! The Orville is what Star Trek Enterprise SHOULD have been like. And I am fed up with Doctor Who shoving politics and agendas on us.

I use to be a crazy Doctor Who fan but that is dead now! Right now I am LOVING The Orville!

@silvershadow2063

5 жыл бұрын

Right there with ya man, watch the first episode of the Orvile and had to carry on watching. Watched the first episode of jodies Dr. What and I've refused to even acknowledge it's existence since it. It was the biggest waste of time I've watched since the Ghostbusters reboot.

@kekui1647

5 жыл бұрын

Its sad they decided to turn the show into an SJW shit fest and casting a SJW doctor instead just casting a female doctor.

@LoriCiani

5 жыл бұрын

I love both. Whovian since '63.

@LoriCiani

5 жыл бұрын

@nafia morris Everybody, right wing troll alert! Are you really this paranoid? Me, I just try to see people as they truely are. Everyone is the same on the inside, the outer layer is just wrapping. Never judge a book by its cover. It may be an old saying but it's so true. You show your fear of the different in anger. I still say viva la difference, nothing to fear round here. I hope you had a good Christmas and wish you all the best for the coming year.

@petermilne2470

5 жыл бұрын

@@kekui1647, agreed. They showed having a female as a regeneration can work brilliantly if done right. I loved Michelle Gomez as the Master, actually preferred it over John Sims ranting insanity. Had hopes it would be a good story arc, then they announced Jodie, and she got out her feminist hand book. Had high hopes for Chibnall too as he oversaw Season 2 of Torchwood and he started talking about blinkered vision of a 50 year old property that had risen from the grave more times than the BBC could count. I'm just getting old. Guess I'm one of those people Oprah says "needs to die".

Tom Baker has more energy and charisma in that one photo than Whittaker has displayed in an entire season!

@lorcis1

5 жыл бұрын

Jamie Pritchard so say we all

@jasonhowell986

5 жыл бұрын

Tom Baker is the man, wait did I just say anything sexiest? Oh well, don't care,Tom Baker is Doctor Who to me.

@ricksmith6637

5 жыл бұрын

but tom baker was years ago i Iike david tenant as the superior dr who

@jasonhowell986

5 жыл бұрын

@@ricksmith6637 I love David as Doctor Who as well, but Tom had the longest run, and his tv ratings have never been surpassed, I got Tom Baker 1st and David Tennant 2nd or 3rd.

@DonCDXX

5 жыл бұрын

I keep hoping they'll bring in Sean Pertwee to play the doctor.

if its a show that triggered the critics, then it must be an amazing show to watch. i'm going to watch it right now !!!

As a fan of Orville, season two became more serious then parody. I myself like anything different with comedy.

The Critics Score is now 63%. Either they gave it a second chance, or Season 2 won them over.

@hectorf.peralta9913

5 жыл бұрын

Or Disney now own Fox

@nfurber2

5 жыл бұрын

That or they decided that having such a chasm between fan reaction and their own just makes them look incompetent and out of touch.

@bucwhovian8305

5 жыл бұрын

It has 100%

@violet-trash

5 жыл бұрын

They're trying to save face.

@Sierra.Foxtrot

5 жыл бұрын

I had to check because i couldn't believe it. Turns out all reviews for season 2 (nine at the moment) are positive, which seriously bumps the series' global rating, since RottenTomatoes apparently just averages the individual ratings of each season (which is incredibly simplistic and misguiding, but whatever). Out of the nine critics, if i'm not mistaken, five had rated the first season, and out of those five, three "changed their minds" from negative to positive (Liz Shannon Miller , Nick Wanserski and Kevin Yeoman ). I'm certainly not here to defend critics, but i'm not sure we can conclude anything from that. More interestingly though, critics' reviews for season 1 mostly came in waaaay before the first episode aired (IMDb date: 25 mar 2018), the bulk of them as far back as sixth months earlier (early sep 2017). I don't know what they saw, i have no idea how things work for TV show reviews. On the other hand, all reviews for season 2 came in after the first episode actually aired. And for what it's worth, if we look at the five reviews for season 1 that came in after the show started (ended, actually, as there are zero reviews during the first season's actual airing period), three of them are positive, which means a rating of 60% from critics that saw the same thing as us, versus a rating of 23% from critics that saw whatever they saw before the show officially aired. So, again i don't know how these things work, but perhaps season 1 critics saw an unfinished product plus had a negative bias against the concept ("dastardly MacFarlane rips off Trek and Galaxy Quest"), hence the show being trashed before it started.

Those critics reviews always seem "sponsored"

@thecloverartist

5 жыл бұрын

Orville is a great show, must be someone who doesn't want to lose their office somewhere trying to hurt the show.

I don't watch Dr. Who or Star Trek Discovery (my apologies? 🤷‍♀️) but! I LOVE The Orville!! The humor is spot on and they also cover SEVERAL "hot button" issues in, I believe, every episode, and do so, not with any "Frat Boy" logic, but fairly. Why aren't the critics addressing those?

@byungbin1395

4 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend Doctor Who. We don't talk about season 11 though, that doesn't exist.

These "professional critics" sound like the kids that would tell the teacher if they saw you passing notes or sharing answers with your friends.

Glad to see the Orville is still seen as good despite the critic reviews, I haven't had a chance to see it yet but I know that Seth's dream even before family guy was to make a star trek parody thing and it would've been really depressing to just have it shot down in one season, demoting Seth to just making Family Guy and American Dad for the rest of his career.

@NICKandJAMEScomedy

5 жыл бұрын

already 4 episodes into season 2

@dlejon1044

5 жыл бұрын

It was his dream to play a captain, but his ex-wife put in a good word for him with a producer her dad knew, and they green lit the project.

@lurker993

5 жыл бұрын

I've been watching since I accidently found about it in Season 1. What's great about it as that it legitimately plays as though it's its own universe. It's not even a parody of Star Trek as much as it is a reimagining with both subtle and periodically crude comedy. If the show were to continue for many seasons, it will undoubtedly develop its own fandom.

@dadabler8714

5 жыл бұрын

@@lurker993 haven't watched it yet but as a fan of Star trek, this video and your comment rlly wanna make me check it out. That's whats I'd be afraid of in a star trek styled thing, that it just felt too shallow and the world didn't feel alive cause that's what makes star trek so great

@notrandom2

5 жыл бұрын

Season 1 was good... Season 2 is just a soap opera in space. No actual "sci-fi". Just, couples going through couples therapy and Hostage situations. BORING. Very disappointed. I was hoping for my mind to be BLOWN!.

The Orville is chalk full of "heavy-handed moral lessons," in true Star Trek fashion. It is "diverse," engages "current year politics" in a thoughtful (and inclusive) way, and addresses topics that most shows refuse to touch. And it does it while making it all extremely accessible and relatable. The Orville is ACTUALLY doing what STD, New Who, and all this other shallow garbage claims to be doing. I find it really odd that the critics are ignoring this and trying to claim that a lack of this is a shortcoming of the show.

@politicallycorrectredskin796

4 жыл бұрын

It's still pretty hopeless sci-fi. though. The odds of even a single alien species being even remotely like humans is basically zero. Without almost perfectly replicating the evolutionary history of humans, this is just not possible. And in Orville you have dozens of these not-human species, including the feminst-statement "aliens" used as security officers on the ship. I liked the visuals and some of the stories, but the endless political lecturing is just not for me. Violence against women = evil and you're Hitler. Violence against men = funny, especially if a woman is the assailant. Got it! Now can we please stop the crude, society-destroying brainwashing and focus on sci-fi for a while? No? OK then! STD is shit. Dr Who is shit. But by golly, so is The Orville. You can't get a cigarette paper between any of these cheap, offensive propaganda shows if you ask me. I maintain that Americans have gone collectively insane with this id-pol BS. It's like talking to a zombie horde. Unfortunately it's like being entertained by a zombie horde too.

@ronhorne4930

4 жыл бұрын

TL/Dr The Orville is a funny show that touches on issues without being preachy.

@politicallycorrectredskin796

4 жыл бұрын

@@@ronhorne4930 It's incredibly preachy and has whole episodes about the same PC idiocy everyone is compla8ining about with other shows. I guess you're just intentionally blind. People enjoy selective blindness these days I've noticed.

Never cared for Family Guy and American Dad, but I love what Seth MacFarlane has done with The Orville.

@decimatorentertainmentstud8523

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@bostaffandbrains6234

3 жыл бұрын

American dad is top notch, especially so in the last 5 or so years... Family guy, not so much IMO. They are very different shows with pretty different senses of humor although of course, since MacFarlane is involved, can at sometimes cross over. American dad though, is far superior when it comes to creativity and writing, again just IMO.

@Origami84

3 жыл бұрын

@@bostaffandbrains6234 I agree. In fact, i am surprised at thinking that he made both, because i really loathe family guy - way too long jokes that come out of nowhere, the south park satire about it was spot on - while american dad, although with his share of nonsense (especially roger) does have a main story line in each episode, to which all jokes are linked.

@bostaffandbrains6234

3 жыл бұрын

@Ruby Hoppy american dad is the best written cartoon if not best written comedy on TV. Some episodes don't hit, but for the most part I think it's superb. I can take or leave family guy. It's funny like meh. But american dad is just a good show.

If the critics were reviewing the comic, they'd be right.

Critics are a joke now.

@MrMortull

5 жыл бұрын

Conversely, jokes are now criticism (when they're not outright *bigotry*). Welcome to Bizzaro world.

@dawnwayfinder

5 жыл бұрын

I want off this parallel dimension!

@FirestoneX

5 жыл бұрын

@@dawnwayfinder Ikr

If you’re a fan of the Star Trek series then watch the Orville. It has humour, ethical dilemmas, real character development, but surprisingly has a lot of depth. Unlike discovery.

@ludwigvonn9889

5 жыл бұрын

The humour of Orville can only be compared to that of a 12-year-old child. There is absolutely no character development, they are all just being exactly what they are from the start... I can't believe people even compare this crap to Discovery. I have watched every sci-fi show since the '90s and Orville is one of the worst I have watched. It's just too simple and cheap.

@Adam-vu6ho

5 жыл бұрын

Ludwig Vonn which show best represents Star Trek? Clearly the Orville.

@zeropandora3973

5 жыл бұрын

@@ludwigvonn9889 Your right its not fair comparing it to discovery, std isnt star trek its bad fan fic.

@InnerRise

5 жыл бұрын

Why do people hate discovery. Never seen it but it has That girl from The Walking Dead on it.

@Willzyx88

5 жыл бұрын

I liked Orville and Discovery. Discovery's intersectional feminist spirit was gut-wrenchingly forced, nothing good felt incidental and natural but politically charged, passive aggressive and defensive as borne out in the critical reviews. Thank goodness Lorca took command, one of my favourite captains and the saving grace of Season 1. 100% badass. Sadly, such badassery is often at odds with the sometimes annoying Burnham but she is OK. The gore factor was a welcome switch-up for me and I didn't mind the new appearance of the Klingons. Deep space should be grittier, it's a majorly fucked-up wild west out there, and make-up has advanced. So be it. Orville is fun. It captures the spirit of The Next Generation with a bit more flamboyance, keeping itself afloat with those thought-provokingly strange sci-fi situations and Seth's comedy stylings. Still, it feels a bit tame and not very original, which is acceptable from a parody. Ultimately, I stopped watching Orville but I'm still watching Discovery. This is part due to accessibility, as it is easier for me to watch Discovery on Netflix, and in part due to the fact Discovery feels fresher. That said Season 2 of Discovery has yet to hit warp.

My retiered parents (75 and 69 years of age) watched Star Trek once in a blue moon. My father watched Next Gen whenever he caught it on TV, but didn't "plan" it. Well, they watched The Orville. After the first episode my mother asked me "Have you watched The Orville yet? It's really good!". Same with my father. They kept raving about it and asking me if I watched any episodes...after each episode. I told them no, because I want to watch it 'fully' (as in binge it with no commercials). I do that with all my tv shows. These "Critics" who call the Orville 'bad' are just ignorant, self-entitled, paid-for-shills. That's all there is to it.

“Woman of Asian decent”? Yeah people do talk like that because that’s the phrase they’re comfortable with

@chuckufarlie8215

4 жыл бұрын

If i said that to my ex she would have stared at me for twenty minutes and left the room.

@Criner05

3 жыл бұрын

But why don't we refer to African Americans as "people of African descent?"

This pretty much proves the supposed "real critics" wrong, and that Rotten Tomatoes is a laughing stock for anyone using it as a legitimate statistical "bar" to go by. I've seen data like this where "real critics" rate a movie over 90% - but was both bombed by ticket sales and panned by the public audiences. If anything, it's taught people like me to treat sites like RT with a healthy dose of skepticism - especially when some of the "real critics" score felt like their scores were "paid for" (aka RIGGED).

@RyanCreatesThings

5 жыл бұрын

Paid for with victimbux

@obsidiansands3441

5 жыл бұрын

Bongo Supreme lol with how much Ghostbusters 2016 got, I wouldn't be surprised.

@kevcatnip7589

4 жыл бұрын

boycott rotten tomatoes,,,the real enemy

The Orville handles taboo subjects with truth. The best show on free TV on right now.

@davidk.1917

5 жыл бұрын

Another good show on free tv that handles taboo subjects with truth is "The Resident". Quite unrelated to the Orville, but equally worth watching.

@brentc2411

5 жыл бұрын

Which is exactly what star trek did pre STD

@lowerclassbrats77

5 жыл бұрын

@@brentc2411 Nail hit squarely on head 👍🏼

The difference is that you can enjoy watching Orville as opposed to being confused watching STD

@kevcatnip7589

4 жыл бұрын

my STD was a lesson in life

We live in a world where our leaders are just as flawed as we are and The Orville handles that theme graciously.

Critics scores are pretty useful, if they like it, I'll avoid it like the plague and vice versa

@Okovburkan

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! This! Whenever i see overwhelming positive critic BS I know it will be some PC crap. I'm already allergic to PC crap to the maximum. I just can't anymore. Fucking NPC locusts, destroying everything.

@svenzo1199

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly Im a bit more naive, what they like I will pirate.

@ThomasDailey

5 жыл бұрын

The new season of The Orville on RT currently has a 100%. Better avoid it.

@politicallycorrectredskin796

4 жыл бұрын

This is how I've treated the Oscar awards for most of my life. The more Oscars a movie gets, the less likely I am to watch it.

@shayla106

4 жыл бұрын

Isaac Baranoff Maybe the person has made up their minds to not see movies with forced political messages.

The Orville actually surpasses many large budget movies. Nearly every episode has a lesson on humanity, religion, astrology, superstition, and how far we have to go as humans. They do all of this with out being preachy, and with a sense of humor. I say put all the critics in a room and show Roma on an endless loop to them for their punishment, and poor taste. Remember the early critics didn't like Led Zeppelin either. The critics can be wrong, and are in this case they are wrong again. Mic drop.

@KA-on1pe

5 жыл бұрын

Seth McFarlane is a time traveler...must be

@Markunator

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Benton - Why the fuck do you diss “Roma”?

@phillaca800

5 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it any better!

@breakmanradio2530

5 жыл бұрын

Please revise your second to last sentence. Just read it out loud and you'll catch it. Everything else is perfect so yeah, that bothers me. Sorry to be a grammar Nazi :/

@curseofgladstone4981

5 жыл бұрын

@Rob T Love the maturity there. Really made your point in such a valid and understanding way. Well done. have a cookie. Sarcasm for those with low iq. Looking at the person directly above me for example

I like Orville because it's fun but it doesn't make fun of the issues in the way you can't take them seriously anymore.

The Orville is a proper homage to Star Trek TNG, in that it uses the premise to explore some really hairy issues. Yes, you have to take it with a few off-colour jokes - urinating once a year, etc. - but underneath it’s heartfelt and sincere and brave.

The Orville is a great "spin off" of TNG, i loved season one. STD "feels disturbing" - i couldn't get past ep 4, it's that bad of a show. And after the critic scores for TLJ and STD they lost all credibility.

@Borgforce

5 жыл бұрын

gusty9053 - Only recently got Netflix... I’ve watched 5 episodes so far... I just can’t get through it. I can name 2 characters “Sarek & .... Micheal (almost forgot it - had to drag it out from the back of my mind!) - Can’t remember a single other one... all of them are miserable and look like they’re a hot minute away from jumping out an airlock!

@flake452

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think its a bad show its just not Star Trek.

@pepegalego

5 жыл бұрын

it'z not a spin-off it's homage

@MaximumAaron

5 жыл бұрын

Discovery isn't an awful show. As a generic scifi, it's got some problems, but largely it's decent. I would probably have loved it if it was just trying to do it's own thing, but.. it's didn't. It was marketed as Star Trek, while doing absolutely fuck-all(minus the Groundhog Mudd episode, I'll give it that) to try and actually make it, Star Trek. And before people go on saying "Ohhh you just don't like change" NO. Bullshit. Every new Star Trek has been substantially different from the others, they just stick to the core principles of philosophy, morality puzzles, etc. What Discovery did was "Hey, let's market it to non-trekkies so we can get new viewers, because the trekkies are so desperate for a Star Trek that they'll watch any trash we shit into their mouths." It was a shameless bait and switch. (edit: meant to say "make it for non-trekkies")

@gusty9053

5 жыл бұрын

@@flake452 well they kind of shot themselves in the foot then when they plastered the star trek name over it.

Critics are corrupt and or too focused on identity politics and gender studies. They are not the person who watches shows for escapism.

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

or pure entertainment.

@kuhpunkt

5 жыл бұрын

That's incredibly dumb to say.

@loubertloubert

5 жыл бұрын

@@kuhpunkt Its entirely true. I'm guessing you are one of the sjw cultists.

@kuhpunkt

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have any rational argument?

STD feels like my body will get one, each time I watch an episode. The Orville is my Star Trek now!! It was way overdue to get a real Star Trek to enjoy so deeply again!

Holy crap! I thought this was a newly published vid on my recommended. 2018!? Literally feels like it could of been made today .. except there are a few additions to the memorial part 😥

film critics totally lost credibility & relevancy nowadays.

@r2dxhate

5 жыл бұрын

100% unreliable. The critic score is almost always inverted from the crowd score.

@pedrokantor3997

5 жыл бұрын

Especially after the Last Jedi.

@r2dxhate

5 жыл бұрын

@@pedrokantor3997 Seriously, how could they give TLJ a 91% ? That whole movie should be a deleted scene.

@johnpaulingress6012

5 жыл бұрын

Only the small time films are worth anything. Everything else is bursting with intense CGI that gets old after about 30 seconds.

@rocco2750

5 жыл бұрын

same with game journalists.

10:57 . "The Orville is a great television show .... It kind of shows both sides of everything." This is a key point.

@denniss3980

5 жыл бұрын

which is way the SJW's hate it, in their world there is only one side, everyone else is a nazi

@coolbanana165

5 жыл бұрын

It's clearly liberal, but it seems like it presents the other opinion in a genuine way, and sometimes the non-liberal opinion wins.

Growing up, we would never watch a movie that Siskel & Ebert gave 2-thumbs up because we knew they were crap shows (back then that was as eloquent a word I could call critic-loved movies). If they gave a film 2-thumbs down, we were all over it.

@unclecreepy4185

3 жыл бұрын

2 thumbs down: Beverly Hill Cop III Wagons East In the Army Now 2 thumbs up: Bhaji on the Beach China Moon Ed Wood

I love the Orville. My wife whom isn’t a sci-fi fan, also loves the show.

The Orville is proof that all people who didn't like Ghostbuster, Dr. Who, upcoming Ocean's 8 etc. aren't sexist. I love this series, and it is, as you said; VERY diverse. The difference is, they're not trying to shove it down our throats.

@shaynehaynes2541

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, as long as women are seen and not heard . . . nope, you people aren't sexist at all.

@shaynehaynes2541

5 жыл бұрын

@Comrade von Herpenderpf Nice tiki torch chant.

@RagnarokMic

5 жыл бұрын

@@shaynehaynes2541 The women are endlessly heard in the Orville, fairly even share of screen time, getting their own side stories and everything.

@noahculp9900

5 жыл бұрын

@@shaynehaynes2541 "dang I don't have anything good to say to counter his argument" "Oh I know. I'll call him a white supremacist. T-that'll show him!"

@shaynehaynes2541

5 жыл бұрын

@@noahculp9900 "White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization - how did that language become offensive?"

I love the Orville! Fuk the critics!

@notrandom2

5 жыл бұрын

Season 1 was good... Season 2 is just a soap opera in space. No actual "sci-fi". Just, couples going through couples therapy and Hostage situations. BORING. Very disappointed. I was hoping for my mind to be BLOWN!.

@sidharthes

5 жыл бұрын

@@notrandom2 2 of the 5 episodes so far have been below par. The most recent one was pretty good.

@samcircelli8413

5 жыл бұрын

@@notrandom2 I agree, I enjoyed season 1 but season 2 is lacking, romance in space I dont enjoy but that's my thoughts. I really dislike Discovery.

@sparksregent9142

5 жыл бұрын

Thats how i feel about discovery...i love DISCOVERY...fuck the critic's and fuck the haters..the same haters who will be watch Discovery to the end......just so they can moan Like a woman.....

@ukeyaoitrash2618

5 жыл бұрын

@@sparksregent9142 I love both! :D

I love the Orville, I remember watching the first couple shows and my immediate reaction was that it was Like M.A.S.H. in Space, what it brings to the table amongst all the political agenda is, HUMANITY, lessons and perspectives of what it is being human (and being humans dressed as aliens). To me this is ST in its full effect.

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on: we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.” -Tyler Durden

The Orville does Star Trek in a more entertaining way than Star Trek itself does. The fact that the Orville doesn’t bend over at the SJW alter to self flagellate is icing on the cake.

@otbaht

5 жыл бұрын

yeah. i mean ds9 had a lot of things that would be considered a big deal, but it was done in a way that made sense. I remember near the end when sisko refused to help a hologram because he lived in a place blacks couldn't go certain places etc, but his lady (forget if gf or fiance at that point) basically said thats not what it is now and we can enjoy the good parts of the past without thinking of the bad. I mean characters grew, dealt with problems, and in the early seasons they had a school vs religion thing that was well written, entertaining, and didn't feel forced. It is possible. I mean heck i think some news people got ripped apart because they said the std lady was the first black captain and people who loved sisko ripped them apart. I bet they were careful after that to not say first woman since well janeway.

@theelectricindian

5 жыл бұрын

Was it though? I mean DS9 had tons of aliens, whereas the ship series didn't. That said I think The Orville goes about its PC'ness in the same was as Trek, but in a modern way. There's a message there but they aren't shoving down your throat. For example it's a diverse cast, but not once do I recall them marketing it as being diverse.

@Emanuela9

5 жыл бұрын

@Star Trek Theory "it's got alot of aliens" Sweeeeetttttt. I love that line and that Gordon loved his poetry but Alara was chilly to it.

@DSan-kl2yc

5 жыл бұрын

It does not do star trek better. What a fucking insult. You don't like star trek, it doesn't make Orville.better. it is incredibly ninferior. It does star trek discovery better than discovery does. But it does do star trek discovery better than star trek discovery. But it is still doing star trek discovery.

@DSan-kl2yc

5 жыл бұрын

And it totally does bend over to white people's and u.s ideas and it's arrogance over others. Has no fucking respect..it has little intelligence.

When I was a teenager I used to watch critics Siskel & Ebert review films. If they both hated a film, I knew I would want to see it. That's why critics are still useful. If they hate something then you know it's going to be quality entertainment. 😂😂

@NostalgiNorden

5 жыл бұрын

That sounds really dumb.

@patbluetree4636

5 жыл бұрын

Yup, I'm with you. Been doing that since 1985.

@HNXMedia

5 жыл бұрын

Siskel and Ebert were old, boring hacks before being an old, boring hack was "cool."

@Rikalonius

5 жыл бұрын

As Brendan Behan put it. “Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.”

@campkira

5 жыл бұрын

They hated Joe dirt, Dukes of hazzard and catwoman. Is that a good quality entertainment. Lets, they died in peace,.

Daaamn, mate! Your room is one of the most overtly nerdy rooms I've ever seen! I bloody love it! Hahaha. Subbed. :)

The episode where they pull pranks on the robot is gold. When the robot pulls his own prank in return. Only he doesn´t really understand how jokes work :D

Negligible intermediaries: "Let me tell you what your ice cream tastes and whether or not you should continue eating it" The critic "No, thanks dear critic, I can taste an ice cream and describe what I perceive, if I like it or not and share my opinion directly with others" The public

@escapableentropy9576

5 жыл бұрын

Well that's a broad generalization of criticism. What is your opinion of criticism when it comes from someone who is an expert on something? Is that purely subjective as well? Should all criticisms be done away with? Is there no universal standard for what makes something qualitative?

@wetdroidedition2549

5 жыл бұрын

Inescapable Entropy Oh, no. I don't said that. Read my other comment: Critics now have a political agenda, they are no longer reliable. In addition, they are praising the works more culturally mainstream in a politically correct culture that seeks to impose itself by force of repetition, seeking the silence of dissenting voices, boycotting alternative proposals, etc. So there is also a cool factor in being contrary to the critics. Currently having a different appreciation to that of the pedestal critics is counterculture 🤘🏻

@escapableentropy9576

5 жыл бұрын

@@wetdroidedition2549 There's another saying " Everyone's a critic." I like to add to that. Everyone's a critic but some are better than others. lol.

@wetdroidedition2549

5 жыл бұрын

Inescapable Entropy Of course. And I think it is possible to make an objective critique of a work. That in fact there are those who have the intellectual resources to do it, or who are experts in a certain thing or element or things or elements of a work and can give a useful opinion in fact. And I also think that subjective opinion or appreciation is valid, but accepting that it is subjective. However, in the context of this video I think that the "critics" referred to as such don't carry out any of this type of critique nor are they necessarily experts. I dare to make this generalization because of the frequency of the difference so crazy between what the critic sees and what the public or other critics not aligned with the mainstream media see in their analysis.That's why they do not seem reliable to me. But I also think it's possible that there are cases where the public is going to go against with the pedestal critics appraisal because today that is cool. As I pointed out before, it is countercultural. So sometimes by the cool factor or the troll factor (make the pedestal critics or the company, director or arrogant producers with a certain political agenda, to get angry) the public will be contrary to the critics. And this is going to happen even if the critics have not necessarily made a compromised valuation because they are paid or because the work or movie itself fits into their political agenda. There is a toxic cultural environment that has generated this kind of thing.

@escapableentropy9576

5 жыл бұрын

@@wetdroidedition2549 I give a lot of fair and balanced critiques of things. I can't begin to tell you how many people try bash my criticisms with their opinions because of their feelings rather than argue objectively. When I give critiques I always make it clear when I am speaking my opinion and when I am using objectivity. The average person today has a very hard time understanding the difference. It leads to a lot of debates. I usually win them and when I don't I concede the loss and move on. My biggest criticism of art and media these days is that their overall level of quality has diminished. When coupled with a dumbed down easily triggered millennial groupthink culture the entertainment value actually shifts to the debates over the critiques instead of the work being critiqued. Ironic.

Orville actually made me watch Star Trek TNG. I'm a big sci-fi fan but Star Trek always made me feel a little bit intimidated to dive into. Truly massive lore, a ton off series to catch on and very particular fanbase - I thought I would never have time or patience to explore Star Trek universe because I didn't watch the show growing up. But the second I saw pilot of Orville I knew what Star Trek actually like without watching even the opening credits of it. I just knew it. I finished 1st season of Orville and right away started watching Star Trek TNG and naturaly fell in love with cpt. Picard and the crew of USS Enterprise. Orville is like a "gateway drug" to Star Trek for me :) Orville is what current sci-fi shows and movies missing: a space adventure with central ethical conflict when answers are never obvious rather than yet another explosion filled defining space war with stupid predetory race/doom's day evil allpowerfull villain, no matter how complex and unnecessary convoluted, the solution to all problems always seems be to blow the shit up. Cudos to Seth McFarlane for doing this show even with this heinous media bashing.

@slamislife74

5 жыл бұрын

The awesome thing about Trek is once you know the bridge crew, you don't need to know much more, and know enough to watch most any episode from any season from a given show. Glaf you've begun to like Trek! There's so much of it to watch!

@forestwells5820

5 жыл бұрын

You know the other thing modern sci-fi has lost? The wonder. Think about it. When was the last time a new sci-fi took you somewhere that felt rich, alive, and even tiny bit special? For me, that's Avatar (the blue aliens, not the Airbender). Here was a living world, with a living culture, and a wonderful new place that felt explorable. Can't think of one that's done that for me since. That's what the Orville has brought back. A sense of wonder. "To boldly go where no man has gone before." Not sure about you, but the episode with the area of 2D space reminded me of that fantastical feeling "Star Trek The Motion Picture" gave me when they were flying through Vger's cloud. Okay, dangerous mission, serious situation, but here is something special in the middle of all of that. Also, the Orville is simple and straight forward, which is what original Star Trek was. They spent their energy on the people, not the world or the conflict, nor do they try to make things dark, gritty, or anything like that, which seems to be the favorite of modern TV sci-fi. There's soul there, just like old school Trek. It has a touch more comedy than Trek did, but even when the jokes don't work, you're able to roll over them and continue on. And finally, as so many have said, Orville doesn't shove anything down your throat. It just is. Issac is the only racist/sexist person on the ship, and even he is respectful of his crew mates in his own odd way, as seen by his attempt to get back at Gordon for his practical joke. Everyone else, they give the air of it not mattering. They don't think about gender or racial equality, because it just is. I hope Orville continues to do super well in ratings, because maybe, just maybe, we'll show producers what we actually want, and get more of the same in the future.

@EBrown-cr1gr

5 жыл бұрын

You're a big sci-fi fan but never watched TNG? .....suspect

@tokenlau7519

5 жыл бұрын

@@EBrown-cr1gr Perhaps he's very young. He said he had no chance watching it when growing up.

@methamphetasaur

5 жыл бұрын

@@forestwells5820 You should check out The Expanse too. That's seriously good shit. More depth than most sci fi space shows, and they never even leave the solar system.

Star Trek and Star Wars had a secret love child . Galaxy Quest was the midwife and it's The Orville. They blend humor and Syfic perfectly and the space fights bring us back to the same goosebumps we got when Luke destroyed the Death star.

Fun random fact. My girlfriend worked at Fox and I got to read the script and see the first cut of the very first season before it premiered. I knew it was going to be a massive hit.

You should read what critics that gave Aquaman a rotten score said.Nothing about the movie.Nothing.They just talked about something irrelevant to the movie or to anything related to Aquaman production.I counted 4 on the fly before I decided that I will no longer ( well , I never did take critics opinion in to account , they never mattered to me ) take in account their scores. L.E: Typo.

All that matters is that fans love the Orville. It is here to stay.

@kimrasmussen7188

5 жыл бұрын

be careful, the suits can sabotage it many ways.

@jonnystorm1

5 жыл бұрын

The fans love the Orville? I guess that's why so many people watched something different after the first episode....

@punkyfister7765

5 жыл бұрын

Unlikely. Have you seen the ratings? They are worse than Dr Who.

@jonnystorm1

5 жыл бұрын

@@punkyfister7765 they had a 0.70 in key demographics for the 1-10-2019 episode..

I like that at the end "2018has been a rough year" if only you had a crystal ball.

What what? I always thought that a Rotten Tomatoes bad critics rating meant it was a good movie? Seems I was right all along.

How kind of rationale would it take for someone to call the Orville a Star Trek ripoff? That's like calling Galaxy Quest a ripoff! It's not, it's a spoof, there's a big difference.

@Amadeus8484

5 жыл бұрын

Its Star Trek with Black Jack and Hookers, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

@bwold9138

5 жыл бұрын

Is kinda like Blue Collar Star Trek. They go to work, and want to go pop a cold one after. They hook up, and it's awkward when things don't work out. It's a nice world they live in, but not a Utopia.

@YosemiteJohn

5 жыл бұрын

I was in the Navy 6 years thereabouts, most of it on a fast boat, and Orville isn't really a spoof either, but a somewhat more realistic version of StarTrek

@PartiallyGeorge

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's not a spoof, it's a comedic homage to Star Trek that becomes quite serious after a couple of episodes. An awesome show, I loved every single episode of it.

@ElOchentero

5 жыл бұрын

I like the Orville but I don't think it qualifies as spoof, because it doesn't really spoofs anything, for example a spoof is Mel Brook's Spaceball or Your Frankenstein, or most Leslie Nielsen movies, this is more of a straight sci-fi show, however I don't think is a rip-off either, that's ludacris, a rip-off is when you plagiarize something but your try to be subtle enough for no one to notice, like The Hunger Games are a rip-off of Battle Royale or The Starchaser is a rip-off of Star Wars (and notice, a rip-off not necessary something wrong, Harry Potter is a rip-off of The Worst With and is still a great work of fiction IMO at least) but the point is, a rip-off is when you don't want people to know you rip something which is not the case, McFarlane can't be more open about how he wanted to make a ST series. I mean is almost fan fiction. I guess the closest thing we can call it is a homage maybe?

What sci-fi lost was hope. Everything became endless war and dystopia. The Orville has that feeling of hope that the first trek had, combined with the character driven scripts that next gen had, but also the story arcs and serial (as opposed to episodic) grounds that new shows have. The closest thing to the Orville in sci-fi tv terms is Futurama, and that is high praise.

@bobmilaplace3816

5 жыл бұрын

When Warhammer 40k has more hope(Bobby G and E-Money are back and possibly Wolfy Boss, Gay Poet, and BurnBro) than Star Wars (Jedi END) and Star Trek (Discovery). It feels weird thematically.

@danholo

5 жыл бұрын

Great points! More positivity, less negativity.

@WavyThunder67

5 жыл бұрын

Even DS9 and Voyager (two series with a focus on war and survival) had buckets of hope. The heavily serialised nature of older Star Trek really added dynamism to the show, and allowed the focus to shift very quickly from one of death and destruction to one of hope, or vice versa. I'm not enjoying the current focus only on the grand, overarching story.

@kurtstergar1042

5 жыл бұрын

@@danholo you want less negativity , end Humanity!

For the most part the jock humour isn't there (I bought it on DVD and enjoyed it) with the exception of the time Bordis gave the machine a virus via his porn.... yup. But Orville does something Trek did, it uses allegories to make us ask about our own cultural norms. For example TNG had a episode where the species was to be gender neutral and was made to convert if they identified as female or male. Orville has a episode where a species that is all male has a character that likes females (a rarity in his species) and is treated like a criminal for it. They both bring up ethical questions in a way that is subtle.

If there's one thing I don't look at anymore - its ratings. Video games, shows, movies.... critics are so out of touch with what I watch I couldn't care less if they loved or hated their review material.

Critics are such idiots companies shouldn't go by the critics it should always be the viewers they take notice of.

Thanks for making this video, seems all escapism has been infected with this PC crap. Hard working people only want to enjoy their hobbies. I find myself watching Anime instead of US TV. Reading Manga instead of comics. Watching old movies and playing vintage games. Many US companies just don't want my money and they won't stop preaching to the fans.

@Sargonarhes

5 жыл бұрын

You and I are in the same boat. Anime is where all the good stuff is.... Too bad about Sony now, guess it's PC or Nintendo from now on.

@lorcis1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sargonarhes what happened to sony ?

@NaatClark

5 жыл бұрын

Right?! Remember when Kirk kissed that black chick back in the 1960's and no one called him a race traitor? PC garbage

@Sargonarhes

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorcis1 Sony is going to be censoring all Japanese games now. Even if the game was previously rated M after they get through with it, the game will be rated E. Or it will still be rated M, but with none of the features warranting it. If the game is going to be on PC or Nintendo as well it will still have it's M rating. Sony has gone full NPC.

@MASTERSTROKEtv

5 жыл бұрын

@@lorcis1 New Sony Censorship Policies Are To ‘Meet Global Standards’. Sony Moved PlayStation Headquarters to California and now they have been on a censoring rampage, censoring even the games created by Japanese game developers sold in Japan. Nintendo now seems to be the more adult gaming console than the "Soynie PayStation". I have all the Sony consoles PS1 - PS4. I will not be buying a PS5 and will be sticking to PC moving forward. Sony doesn't want my money.

Just a big: Thank you! For letting me know about this great show !!! Conitnue the good work !!!

4 years later & this is somehow more relevent today then it was when it was originally posted.