No matter how much true crime I watch, I still can't wrap my head around how people can be so cruel & evil.

@WyattRyeSway

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It perplexes me

@titolino73

Жыл бұрын

I AM STARTING having enough but I was like you ...I need something to believe we are not all already screwed !

@VickyShawcooksalot

Жыл бұрын

It's all about control. As soon as they feel control slipping away it's the only control they have left.

@anhedonianepiphany5588

Жыл бұрын

Studying the pertinent elements of psychology, psychiatry, and neurology, should bring you closer to some kind of comprehension.

@helenawarsinnak

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you.... someone can seem so nice and completely normal but be as EVIL as the DEVIL!! This world is such a scary place anymore!!

The fact that he is smiling in his mug shot shows what an evil monster he is

@cm1927

Жыл бұрын

He looks like a straight-up creep in all of the photos.

@babywah3290

Жыл бұрын

He got what he wanted. He’d rather destroy all than give in to a “betrayal.” I wouldn’t mind if he faced water boarding for the rest of his days. He deserves it.

@schrisdellopoulos9244

11 ай бұрын

Yep, I commented the same.

@JillC2

10 ай бұрын

@@ibrahimbaliyawalla2226 And he'll probably go to the death chamber kicking and crying. He's a coward.

@Greyy66

10 ай бұрын

What the man did was wrong , but Karen wasn't an angel by any means , she left her marriage and the house she bulid with her husband to go after a relationship with another woman which is another big problem from the start , she is a mother and a wife , not a teenage girl who is being ignored by her parents so she gets into her gross lesbian phase , it disgusts me seeing people are way beyond their "dating" days and go after sexual feelings that aren't just wrong according to every single major religion on earth , but also causes a divide in society between children and their parents

That little girl saying she doesn't want to die is haunting and heartbreaking.

@brunomoura7719

17 күн бұрын

Indeed! So sad to imagine her despair at that moment. Stressful!

Anyone who has control issues is DANGEROUS. Get out immediately!

@Obsidian369

Ай бұрын

Her side only? I call bs

@godamid4889

Ай бұрын

​@@Obsidian369anyone isn't he or she, loser.

@daisy9910

24 күн бұрын

@@Obsidian369 what justifies murdering 4 people, 2 of those, your own children? I bet you're abusive too.

At 10, you're old enough to understand and remember a lot. I'm so sorry for the son

@ticketyboo2456

Жыл бұрын

Roxcell John He sounds unfeeling. They need to keep an eye on him as he may follow Daddy's example...

@paulincia27

Жыл бұрын

​​@@ticketyboo2456 he is just a child who've lost everyone he loved, from his father's hands what should he feel....?!!! He will carry enough grief for the rest of his life and will blame himself, when is old enough to discover, that his father did it all "for him"....horrific

@FRLN500

Жыл бұрын

@@ticketyboo2456 you are an idiot. You sound unfeeling. Should the cops be keeping an eye on you?

@marinazagrai1623

Жыл бұрын

@@ticketyboo2456 He might have inherited his dad’s genes but he will never forget his mom dying like that, so he might be ok in the long run.

@valentina6429

Жыл бұрын

I hope he will make wise decisions. It is quite a tragedy. Some people lose their mother in a car accident, and all he can do is complain over and over. At least I hope Sean will have a decent, rewarding life, to make his mother proud.

I can't imagine what that poor boy had to witness. I hope he's doing well.

@amiramlan3119

Жыл бұрын

Better than looking his mom sleep with another women. In the future i believe that boy will understand about his dad dealing with this kind of frustrated

@tracytrunn5625

Жыл бұрын

U can bet BIG MONEY HES NOT Trauma like this u NEVER get over

@lindc1070

Жыл бұрын

True. Scarred for life

@kurtmaryville4941

5 ай бұрын

He didn’t want his dad to die also. And the government basically said, “shut the hell up, no family for you.”

@nickjones7737

5 ай бұрын

​@@kurtmaryville4941as if he'd ever want a relationship with that p.o.s after he murdered his family.

How terribly sad. Little Sean will forever be in my prayers. i couldn't imagine losing everyone you ever loved in front of your eyes.

@kurtmaryville4941

5 ай бұрын

I like how the son asked them not to invoke the death-penalty, because he didn’t want to lose his whole family…. and they were like efff you kid! You get no family. We’re doing it!

@JustEverton

Ай бұрын

​@@kurtmaryville4941at least he still have his grandparents and uncles/aunts.

@mariajosemachadolima8610

Ай бұрын

o monstro do pai fez isso na frente dessa criança, e ficam esses advogados do diabo enchendo o saco com essa conversa fiada de doença mental..o covarde psicopata teve coragem pra matar a família, mas não tem coragem pra enfrentar o que fez, fica se escondendo atrás de advogados pra escapar da pena de morte..será que conseguiu? queira Deus que não..tem que ir pros quintos dos infernos..antes que aparece algum idiota pra dizer que ele pode voltar pra sociedade, sempre aparece uma carniça no judiciário pra fazer isso..esse cara da nojo..

@ScorpioRising13

12 күн бұрын

@@kurtmaryville4941Not sure why anyone would want a family member around who killed your mom and sisters.

@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult

8 күн бұрын

I hope he got a lot of therapy because he could repeat this cycle in the future?

How chilling is that to hear Lauren saying "I don't want to die" but sadly did😢😢

I’ve seen this case elsewhere and they went into detail about the daughter begging the officer not to let her die and how he wanted so badly to promise her everything would be all right, but knowing he was lying to her and hating himself for doing it. It was really heartbreaking.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

I think I would rather have lied in that instance as well. He made the right choice in her final moments. Thanks for sharing the info though; did not know that.

@erikm8372

Жыл бұрын

True Crime Daily on TV (and KZread) covered it well too. I think most people who are present at crime scenes, and comforting the injured individuals, will usually say the most positive things they can. Even if the outlook is less than promising… sometimes miracles happen, but no matter what or who you are… I think you’d have to give people positivity on their last breaths, regardless.

@AdelineCowgirl

Жыл бұрын

Why did he hate himself?? I would much rather die believing that I was just drifting off into a little nap than believe my life is about to end. It has also been proven that people who feel optimistic are much more likely to recover than people who think it's all over. He did the compassionate thing.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

@@AdelineCowgirl What on planet earth was compassionate about what he did???!?? EDIT: Sorry, just saw the reply on my phone, without the context of the chain.

@140klana

Жыл бұрын

She knew she wasn’t gonna make it therefore she asked for that reassurance even though he also had a grasp of the severity of her injury. He had to say that to at least calm her down. What would you say instead , ‘no you’re going to die’?

Do not tell an abuser you're leaving, just do it! And under no circumstance do you go back to their home or meet with them alone! Even if they've never abused you or been violent in any way, a separation and divorce can bring out the worst side in people.

@buddhamaster322

Жыл бұрын

Do not listen to this person. This is absolutely the WRONG way to leave a relationship. You are likely to hurt that person a lot or even traumatize them and nobody deserves that. Do it the right way, gently and in person, like someone with integrity, like you would want someone to leave you.

@aussieglitter2430

Жыл бұрын

@@buddhamaster322 they said leave your abuser not how to leave a relationship.

@buddhamaster322

Жыл бұрын

@@aussieglitter2430 "Even if they've never abused you or been violent in any way, a separation and divorce can bring out the worst side in people." Read that shit twice in case you didn't understand

@justbystander770

Жыл бұрын

@@buddhamaster322 wrong even when you announced a divorce then this still would have happened. Leaving to an abuse center and press charges. So in both cases you can’t do any good cause a narcissistic personality disorder will never let you go. They believe they own you. So grow up and watch more crime videos cause you will find out that all murders are an act of rage cause the one committed these murders can’t let go. And yes a divorce would be nice IF THE OTHER PERSON AGREES.but in this case HE DIDNT.. in this case we could hear that the wurst was already going on. Learn to listen before you tell others how to read

@mm7411

Жыл бұрын

I took my son and left, had all I needed to prove/show "cruel and inhumane treatment". I left the state, got a lawyer and filed in my new state ( i did set up a second residence there). That was 25 years ago, I didn't argue over $$, Judge ruled my 3 yr old son should spend summers w his "abusive" father. I was floored and my son is now a man. The impact on his life is obvious, but God helped us through this hell. God Bless to those going through an ugly divorce.

i will never be able to understand how a parent can kill thier child.

I went to high school and was in theatre with Emily. She was the sweetest person. So beautiful, talented, bright and fun... I still to this day can't even come close to wrapping my head around this. 😢

@AskAlex1999

Жыл бұрын

❤

@rubydawn1

11 ай бұрын

I am sure it was devasting to all her friends

@Greyy66

10 ай бұрын

What the man did was wrong , but Karen wasn't an angel by any means , she left her marriage and the house she bulid with her husband to go after a relationship with another woman which is another big problem from the start , she is a mother and a wife , not a teenage girl who is being ignored by her parents so she gets into her gross lesbian phase , it disgusts me seeing people are way beyond their "dating" days and go after sexual feelings that aren't just wrong according to every single major religion on earth , but also causes a divide in society between children and their parents

@rachaelloutaylor8135

9 ай бұрын

​@@Greyy66are you for real!

@janamyers4894

8 ай бұрын

So sad....God bless you.

My heart goes out to Karen's mother. She lost her own mother, her daughter as well as her granddaughters. The fact that she was able to make it to the courtroom everyday is a testament to her strength and character.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

Very good point, which I originally oversaw and didn't lend enough credit to.

@carlyfaith8193

Жыл бұрын

jesus that’s hard to imagine. 4 generations and only one is left

@soupremesoup5429

Жыл бұрын

I really don't know how a human being can handle that much grief and find the strength to even get out a bed after such tragedy. I feel so much pain for her

@MM2PuppyDog

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how she manages... I lost my son (not to violence) 11 years ago and it hurts just to mention it now. This woman is incredibly strong.. I can't imagine the pain she went through. I'm sure having Sean live with them helped... My heart goes out to Karens entire family..

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

@@MM2PuppyDog So sorry for your loss 💛

Family annihilators are the worst of the worst. Gosh what a tragedy.

@leole5673

11 ай бұрын

Even when they're betrayed... whats your thoughts on Darth Vader?

@Gadgetmawombo

8 ай бұрын

@@leole5673 Betrayed? He was an abusive pos. He betrayed her first.

11 күн бұрын

I guess they left the back door open?

The monster is not insane, rather a cold-blooded family murder. Shawn I wish you healing, may your family rest in peace.

The killer is so selfish. He was a terrible father, terrible husband, and a terrible son. These men need to get a grip. Watch Out! These men are dangerous!! I would not risk dating or marrying anyone. So sad for his wife. When she met him she met the worse thing in her life. Be careful who you marry.

@GengoSenmon

4 ай бұрын

And yet for years plenty of people exactly like you praised him as being a great father, husband, and member of the community.

@johnsmith7676

4 ай бұрын

Not to excuse his behavior, but his wife was a liar, and a cheater. Just to push his buttons. Plenty of blame to go around in this one. EVERYONE has a breaking point.

@Obsidian369

Ай бұрын

Look what she did to him! You know what that does to a person? All the lying and manipulative bs that must have went on from her and her lover

@godamid4889

Ай бұрын

​@@johnsmith7676but that's exactly what you are doing. Making excuses. She could have shat in his coffee and it wouldn't justify his actions.

@godamid4889

Ай бұрын

​@@Obsidian369stop being such a pathetic weasel.

Everyone, remember: THE most dangerous time for a person in an abusive relationship is when they’re leaving. Once the abuser loses control, all bets are off. If you’re experiencing abuse/coercive control and you want to leave the relationship, STAY OFF social media. Don’t allow any apps on your phone to track your location. Stay with family members or friends who you trust and try to limit your time alone. Advise the local police that you have an abusive ex who you fear may threaten violence if they find you. It’s a lot, and it can be stressful and scary, but it may mean the difference between staying alive and the alternative.

@denisebenedict6102

Жыл бұрын

Better yet, get a burner phone and only give the number to immediate trusted family members!

@vaughangarrick

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't help brazenly displaying your affair in public and in front of the man you're trying to leave

@donk8589

Жыл бұрын

I'd say the most dangerous part is when they enter a new relationship. The degenerate narcissist can accept the breakup if he's convinced his ex-victim is lonely and miserable. But knowing she's happy with someone else is unbearable to their worlthless egos. It's often at that time they'll try to murder their ex-victims.

@alexsamsung5579

Жыл бұрын

Good advice. Thanks for sharing this.

@loopthetube

Жыл бұрын

So many things i can think of to do to keep oneself safe but yes stay off social media.

Narcissistic people cannot give up total control of the ppl around them. They are extremely dangerous if this happens. Such a sad story.

@FRkiddo

Жыл бұрын

Agreed although I think it is safe to say this is, like almost ever killer, a next level narcissist also known as a psychopath

@sebastianelytron8450

Жыл бұрын

Wife should've known better too, and stayed away.

@JoeyCheex0583

Жыл бұрын

i tried a poached egg for the 1st time the other day,didn't really know what to make if it

@hammondOT

Жыл бұрын

I know we all just learned the word and watch a lot of KZread videos about it, but we need to stop throwing the word narcissism at everything.

@FRkiddo

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianelytron8450 probably got caught in his net and when she realised the trouble she was in it was way too late. I’ve had a colleague and ‘friend’ who turned out to be a psychopath and I realised it too late as well. Very few people have experience with psychopaths and don’t realise what they are dealing with until it’s too late. Truth being told, I am glad my ‘friend’ died of a heart attack and a lot of people with me who would never admit it.

This poor 89 year old woman seeing her daughter and granddaughters murdered in front of her and having to deal with it. What a terrible way to live the last decade of her life. She died with that trauma. What a disgusting pig this poor excuse of a "man".

He is a monster. He could care less about anything or anyone but himself.

I think he was happy and felt no remorse. In his mind, he won. He made sure he always had control, so much so, that he was the one who got to choose when her life would end. A true narcissist.

@smarieintn5955

Жыл бұрын

He'll lose that control, and smile, in prison.

@jabellatv3240

Жыл бұрын

Exactly he couldn’t let that control he had go I know a couple of men like him

@muzzledwon1845

Жыл бұрын

There's a reason he has no remorse. It's a bummer I only heard one side of the story

@MyLadyPanda

Жыл бұрын

@@muzzledwon1845 Even if she hadn't cheated. I feel like this would have happened. If she would have just plain old divorced him, he probably would have done the same thing. You see this happen ALL THE TIME. The vast majority of family annihilators are men. Kinda gotta wonder if he started screwing around on his wife the same time he started becoming overbearing. Most likely.

@bobbuilder3656

Жыл бұрын

​@@muzzledwon1845 yikes

I remember the first time I heard the sheriff speaking about Lauren’s last moments. She was begging to live and fighting for her life. He said he had never seen anyone as strong as that beautiful girl. How anyone can murder their own children, let alone their spouse, is just unreal.

@alyshiakroll15

Жыл бұрын

This monster doesn't see the women in his life as people, his wife and daughters are nothing but property to him. So when he was no longer able to control them, he decided no one else could have them. It's not an accident that his son was the only one not shot, even if he hadn't ran out the door he wouldn't have been injured, this man hates women and feels the need to own and control them

@johnlove6194

Жыл бұрын

I am not surprised the daughters were killed. Once a teenager lives with her Mom, she becomes Mom's puppet. And given the situation you lost your job and you properties during the divorce, it is possible for you to 'snap' when you are ordered to pay child support to your ex and her partner who will later manipulate your daughters to think ill of you. On the other hand, his anger might be lessen and the crime might be prevented, when he is castrated at the time he shows signs of controlling behavior.

@gtt8428

Жыл бұрын

​@@alyshiakroll15 did he have an affair sweetheart ? 5:57 wheres his public moments like this ? I know you are woke but you need to hold you own kind accountable once in a while

@muzzledwon1845

Жыл бұрын

According to court report the son was mature for his ag The daughters played musical instruments, they saying they danced they were even in a band. Sounds like the family was doing pretty good until the mother decided she wanted to be with other women. It's only that you hear about how abusive he was When you understand that a child is 16 times more likely to be delinquent with a single mom versus a single dad maybe you'll understand

@muzzledwon1845

Жыл бұрын

This was definitely a one-sided story. I'm certain the wife and mother of this maniac was having online affairs while he was out building a beautiful family with his high-paying job that gave stability to his children Reading the comments in here it's easy to understand how easy it is to make it will be late the masses into believing what you want them to believe I like you agree that this man was a maniac but it didn't happen overnight and was completely avoidable

This may sound odd with this story being one of the most disturbing, but I LOVE this Narrator. I love how you tell these stories.

@pamelamorgan7354

23 сағат бұрын

I agree. Her voice is calm. The music is low and appropriate.

“Why doesn’t she just leave” this is why. The most dangerous time for someone being abused is actually when they leave/try to leave. They’re more likely to be seriously injured or killed. This is heartbreaking 💔

@kekesb

4 ай бұрын

she was cheating before any of this happen, she could have left, divorce before she slept with that old lady but she stay and threw the affair in his face. She move all the way out of town with him while continue the affair miles away

@sarakt9272

10 күн бұрын

@@kekesbthat still doesn’t excuse him murdering her. What’s your reasoning for him trying to kill everyone else in the house too?

Insanity? 🙄 oh please, this was premeditated. He would have gone home when the neighbours found him. May they rest in peace 🙏🏿

You guys do better true crime documentaries than most tv channels. I can see this as a channel 5 special or something.

@TrulyCriminal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@KimmySaurusRex44

Жыл бұрын

@@TrulyCriminal yw. They're just such good quality production, I tend to come here to see if youve covered a case before going to other outlets. It helps that the voiceover person has such a soothing voice, too.

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that you mean well, but this really isn't saying much: television (especially true crime shows) is unadulterated garbage.

@KimmySaurusRex44

Жыл бұрын

@@eadweard. maybe you just have poor taste in shows lol. If you think television is garbage why come to watch what is essentially a TV show. Keep your negativity away from me, 🙏

@eadweard.

Жыл бұрын

​​@@KimmySaurusRex44 I watch it precisely because it's _not_ a TV show. We live in a strange world when failing to be enthusiastic about television is deemed "negativity".

A truly sad and tragic story. So senseless. The narration was well written. This channel does a great job of documenting these cases.

@sandramolina1177

Ай бұрын

La madre traiciono creo q busco j a excusa del tipo xq era lesviana como no salio antes del closet y no involucrar a sus hijos en algo tan horrible q es el adulterio ya q el hombre era loco yo creo q ella fue la q termino con sus hijos x apoyar a su madre el se sintio traicionado pobre chico

Big love to son Sean and grandma Karen's Mum on their awful heart-breaking losses . Glad to see the courts rejecting mental health excuses for monstrous actions .

Losing your mum, your daughter and your grandchildren all at once! How horrible it must be 😭 to Karen's mother, my heart goes out to you.

@4everoldskool626

6 ай бұрын

Yes understandably true to an agree! Because NOTHING IS NEARLY AS CLOSE TO WHAT A 10 YR OLD CHILD MUST GO THROUGH ESPECIALLY WHEN NOT ONLY DID HE WITNESSED IT ALL BY HIMSELF, BUT HE HAD TO RELIVE IT ALL OVER AS THE ONLY ONE TO TAKE THE STAND AS A 12 YR OLD AGAINST YOUR OWN FATHER! So the son also lost his mother, sisters, great grandmother and his father. At least Karen's mother didn't witness this horrific massacre! My heart goes out to Sean and Karen's moms job is to be there for her grandson 🙏

@steffyredd8146

3 ай бұрын

​@@4everoldskool626well said. Heart wrenching 😢

The fact that Shawn had the empathy to consider his grandparents' feelings of losing their son, shows he is so much more of a human than his 'father.' I put father in quotes because he doesn't deserve that title.

@terriegilley6574

10 ай бұрын

I think part of that was still his father. He said he was glad Sean wasn't being raised by those freaks. That means his paternal grandparents got custody. I can't imagine what that child might have been told about his mother from those people. Everything about this story is horrible.

@danyoutube7491

6 ай бұрын

@@terriegilley6574 I don't think there's any reason to think that Kraig's parents had the same warped viewpoint that he had developed.

Dude had it all- a steady, well-paying career, big beautiful home, an equally smart and successful wife, gifted and talented kiddos. All he had to do was get out of his own way.

@shahara3053

28 күн бұрын

His wife was cheating on him and using his money.

@sarakt9272

10 күн бұрын

@@shahara3053people get cheated on all the time. That’s why divorce is an option. but no he chose to take not only her life, but others in the house who weren’t even involved in the affair if that’s really what he did it all over

Young women need to be completely educated about what men who lose their minds are capable of. They revert to being animals. Real life is not TV. You cheat on a man who has lost his mind and you are risking your life. It doesn’t matter if you think it shouldn’t be that way, it is that way. If you are going to leave a man like this you must be stealthy, plan, put in place a support system, and humor him until you can get out.

Hearing Lauren say, “I don’t want to die!”, is beyond heart wrenching💙God bless you all, may you be in eternal peace, together forever 💙

@gtt8428

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the woke lesbian reacted ? Did she cry ? I doubt it ...

@LeeoGoneWild

Жыл бұрын

@@gtt8428 That a whole family was massacred because of her relationship? I’m sure she can’t go a single day without feeling extreme guilt. I’m gay and a republican, but I’m disturbed you used woke and lesbian as a justification for her not to feel any remorse and then the fact you received 3 thumbs up is even more disturbing. There’s so much hate.

@gtt8428

Жыл бұрын

@@LeeoGoneWild claims to be Republican .... Goes on rant about feelings ... Seems legit 😁

@LeeoGoneWild

Жыл бұрын

@@gtt8428 your literal first comment was about feelings.

@gtt8428

Жыл бұрын

@@LeeoGoneWild ugh no, my point was she didn't care about the woman she got killed with her selfish actions, which is typical of the lgbt, nice try though, But seriously why do you think the lez was rubbing her leg public ? How was that going to end well ? She knew what she was doing ...

Something to learn here for ladies. Never date with marriage, never tell your abuser you are leaving. Stay as low key as possible until you find a secret hide! Very sad case 💔

@rosaliealaina

Жыл бұрын

That’s what my mom did

@arock7462

6 ай бұрын

No . I'm so weary of the warnings and lessons for the ladies.. how about men don't grow up to be narcissistic homicidal femicidal arses!!!!

@j3suisd3

6 ай бұрын

Yes ... it worked for me ... never cheated ever but constant control & worse ... escape needs to be secret for safety 😶

We had a case kind of like this in my town back years ago. The lady had finally gotten tired of the abuse and decided to leave her husband. While she and her mother and brother and her two.children were at her house packing their stuff to leave the husband showed up and shot her and her mother and brother in front of the children. It was such a heartbreaking situation all the way around. The man actually wound up dying in prison from cancer last year.

@joannbowden6220

Жыл бұрын

The one time I'm glad cancer exists!

@Southernbellejwhite

10 ай бұрын

Would you care to tell who the man was that you’re speaking about? If not, I completely understand. I was just curious & wanted to learn about it. Thank you. I appreciate it.

I like how he said he was not premeditated, but he had a on the run bag with food, hygiene products, and stuff to survive with. Most people who do this with no plan never had a on the run supplies bag. Honestly a nasty man and I knew it when I saw that smiling mug shot. People like him shouldn’t have applies. I get having family turn their back on you and losing your job, but not only was he being obsessive with ex, but blaming his daughters for not being on his side, which he did assault their mother as well, it just shows you how horrible he was. I have no sympathy for evil people like him and he should be right where he is with nobody to listen to him.

@davemeckfessel1296

5 ай бұрын

Right. He was another of those controlling men, who don't deserve any women. Most are so jealous, but usually have a mistress on the side.

@deescott8312

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

I will never understand why some people can not just move on after a relationship. And how can you murder your own children? So sad.

@claudiaargueta3767

Жыл бұрын

That is the whole point. You will never understand and I won't either- bc we are not sick mentally

@jamesp9226

Жыл бұрын

You won’t understand if you don’t listen and try to understand. Did you watch the video? We’re you paying attention? This has nothing to do with him “not moving on”.

@trawlins396

Жыл бұрын

​@@jamesp9226 exactly. It was a lot more than that.

@trawlins396

Жыл бұрын

If you want your spouse to "move on" you don't antagonize them by showing off your affair right under their nose. While still married!! And the fact that the girlfriend was writing him letters telling him to stay away. Wow. They were all playing with fire. So arrogant. All of them.

@Harbinger343

Жыл бұрын

And he had to continue supporting them financially. While being so poor that he lived with his parents. I wonder if “sunny” feels any guilt in this?

The narration on these videos is superb…it conveys a mixture of respect and seriousness for the topic. Excellent job!

@B12GPW

Жыл бұрын

Yes, love her voice.

@anhedonianepiphany5588

Жыл бұрын

When it comes to narration, any more-refined accent of the UK, Ireland, Australia, or New Zealand, is vastly preferable to those harsh American ones. They have greater emotional range and can exhibit more nuance (and aren’t an instant irritant).

@blindingskies

Жыл бұрын

​@@anhedonianepiphany5588 opinions, man - *

@agatahb

Жыл бұрын

could not agree more

@emmaj1384

Жыл бұрын

@@anhedonianepiphany5588 cannot stand the American TC videos, with the music and dramatic narration. It’s almost disrespectful, like they’re making it into a Hollywood thing

I could be wrong but I think I saw wedding photos online of Sean getting married to a woman named Keri in Kansas just last year. He looks healthy and happy. Can't imagine the strength it takes to go through something like this, I wish him nothing but love, joy, and peace.

@azazello1784

8 ай бұрын

Getting married instead of grieving his family is selfish and disgusting.

@hallmarkdestiel2937

8 ай бұрын

@@azazello1784???????

@arock7462

6 ай бұрын

​@@azazello1784how long would you like him to grieve? Smh. Life is for the LIVING.

@angelapryor5240

2 ай бұрын

​@azazello1784 that is about the stupidest thing I've heard

11 күн бұрын

@@azazello1784 You can still grieve after you are married!

Sean is a young man now. The horrific case itself affected him, yet he did show mercy for his father. To not seeking the death penalty, due to the surving grandparents. A strong moral compass displayed in court. All I can say is..... you have real strength. ❤

Ok, that's it. I'm happily divorced. These stories re-confirns my desire to stay single and independent.

@anneleeuwen2105

Жыл бұрын

Me too 😮

@randalthor6872

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as "happily divorced". If you have kids, you probably screwed them over royally.

@susansage7218

Жыл бұрын

@@randalthor6872 no children, bean brain.

@randalthor6872

Жыл бұрын

@@susansage7218 Great news! Please make sure to honor your vows if you plan on raising kids : )

@markus7166

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a true crime video without a crazy cat lady 😂

This one truly broke my heart and I cried. Shawn’s strength is apparent but I hope he knows it’s ok to breakdown sometimes and not be strong. He’s been thru more than most at such a young age. I hope he is at least getting therapy or even psychotherapy to process the trauma. 😢

@tylerskiss

Жыл бұрын

The courage required to try and sneak back into a house where you are likely to be shot just to call for help… that was a very heroic effort.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerskiss Indeed!!!

@erikm8372

Жыл бұрын

I don’t want to seem invasive, but would love an update on some of these stories and their survivors, like Sean. Would just like to know if they’re ok, are they in touch with anyone else involved, etc.

@slicedbread5692

Жыл бұрын

God no... Not therapy. There are few scams in the world as big as therapy... Maybe insurance and chiropractors are up there.

@The3xblessed

Жыл бұрын

​@@erikm8372 who else was involved? He was the only one that survived. They said at the end he what he's doing with his life. What more do you want? He went to live with his grandparents He graduated went to school and is now working in Kansas.

Shawn survived & yet he’s the one my heart breaks the most for. 😢

His behavior started long before she told her sister about it.....

What a pitiful little man. He felt slighted by his wife "daring" to reject his control over her. And then he wrote his daughters off for being happy for their mother. 🗑️ human.

@TheLochs

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. People like him dont deserve to live.

@selcukcilek555

Жыл бұрын

May be you are right. Nevertheless she accepted to move with her controlling and abusive husband into their new beautiful house and continued to cheat on him with her new girlfriend. In all this crime series I take all personality descriptions of victims and killers in the videos with a grain of salt. I wonder WHO confirmed the fact that HE wanted daily 8 PM sex and that he was ok with her new girl friend and wanted a threesome?

@basketcase297

Жыл бұрын

I think he felt more “slighted” by his wife sleeping with someone else

@MoonageDaydream.

Жыл бұрын

@@basketcase297 Well that’s his own fault. Maybe if he hadn’t abused her constantly and raped her every single night she wouldn’t have gravitated towards someone else.

@andrebeaupre7945

Жыл бұрын

@@basketcase297 not you defending him

The husband is a sad sorry excuse of a man/ human. I hope he rots in hell for what he did. Also the insanity defense is total BS.

@stevie-ray2020

Жыл бұрын

Agree! Definitely can't claim it wasn't premeditated when perpetrator turns up on the door-step armed!

@gtt8428

Жыл бұрын

5:53 how do you justify this outside "she's a woman I'm not allowed to criticize her"

@muzzledwon1845

Жыл бұрын

Do you think mommy has only one lesbian affair? What was mommy doing while daddy was working and building a beautiful family? I find it kind of ironic that we only heard about how abusive he was after she started her illegitimate affair while being married

@Handle947

Жыл бұрын

​@@muzzledwon1845 we're defending killers now? whta an absolute psycho lmao

@kaeb4008

Жыл бұрын

@@muzzledwon1845 that gives him the right to kill her and their kids ? I was lookin for the people who’s defending him or wanting to kno more about what the wife did. Nobody deserves to die because they aren’t happy in a relationship. After she filled for divorce and moved out, he should’ve left it alone go find someone else same way she did.

I have just recently come across your podcast and it has quickly became one of my favourites and I recommend it to everyone. Please continue to make more I’m a super fan💛💛💛

I am always concerned about the family left behind. Especially the children. Thank you for telling everything.

💯 I’m so glad that the judge made him stay in court for the impact statements! It makes me so angry when they’re allowed to be cowards & hide in their cell!

Being aware of Narcissistic Personality Disorder is VERY IMPORTANT life information to know. It can save your life. Im glad stories like these are being told now so people can be aware of these malignant narcissists and know the red flags to either avoid a relationship or get out of one SAFELY. The exit strategy is just as important.

@fluffypink6unny

Жыл бұрын

And followed by a strict “no contact” dynamic to ensure the narcissist never is able to manipulate again. The victim(s) often want the contact bcz they have been conditioned by the manipulation. I’ve been there. After 7 years no contact I still occasionally watch narcissist information videos & they remind me of the insanity bcz normal people want to understand it & the behavior is completely illogical & irrational. No contact saves lives.

@AlbionRising

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. People want to believe this kind of pathology is curable. It isn't. Psychopaths won't change. Never. They are not human, they are predators. If you encounter one: run, this is not a person. Look how they always smile in the end. They can enjoy offing their own children. No insanity. They just have a different wired brain and they don't feel anything for anyone ever.

@basketcase297

Жыл бұрын

Don’t cheat as well

@Nostalgic_1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. This case always makes me wonder what would have happened if Karen were to have moved out early on when red flags started appearing years earlier and severed the relationship quickly and concisely. Would he have been more mentally capable of dealing with it had Sunny not been a factor? We'll never know... Lots of other 'what ifs' cross my mind with this case. I'm definitely not victim blaming because there is absolutely NO excuse for what he did but human nature is wondering about what if........

@johnlove6194

Жыл бұрын

@@basketcase297 Imho, divorce and anger issues would probably diffuse immediately, if Sunny readily agree to a threesome.

Such a great channel, you explain everything so well and are so respectful to the families etc.❤

One of the most horrific true crime I've ever heard. Insane. Cruel. Heartbreaking.

Poor little Sean...running to get help his mom, sisters and grandmum.

That girl screaming I DON'T WANT TO DIE, is one of the worst thing I've ever heard...😢

This is why you must put your emotions under control. I prefer to live alone and do not get mixed up in situations.

@kimmymegs

Ай бұрын

Same here 😊

I can’t imagine how could you do that to your own kids????? 😢

Look how happy he looks in that booking photo. He's pleased he's done what he's done.

My best friends sister was murdered when she left her husband - I can't get my head around these cowards killing women and children.

My first time seeing your stuff. Really love your style. Right to the point and we’ll worded. No host or narrator or silly jokes along the way. I find the ability to speak well with few words and yet give so much more info is something all the other popular true crime programs lack. Cheers.

I must congratulate your team. the way you all piece together and roll the every story is commendable. There're other channels on youtube that similar but your team does it immaculately. The pace you all set and the story focus is blended to perfection. The subject is sad by form and nature and my condolences to all victims in discussions of all your episodes. Sending your team well wishes.

@ur786.1

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I find the narrative voice very easy to understand, whereas many other channels I struggle sometimes to follow what they are saying or find my mind wandering (adhd and slow processing issues!)

I watch so many 'real crime' youtube videos that I'm probably on some list, but I think your channel is fast becoming the best of them. Great content, keep it up!

@yourmom6833

Жыл бұрын

Oh if there is a list, I’m right there on it with ya! 😂😂

@dariadavies256

Жыл бұрын

Me too 😂

@Delisalyfe

Жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh! I know I'm on the list too...

@misska7535

Жыл бұрын

I'm definitely on there. All I watch is TC & comedy. I don't have 1 friend 🤷‍♀️ They either moved or are on "something." This channel is absolutely awesome. I always say it in every comment m😊❤

@leaheames8995

Жыл бұрын

🤚

Can I just say how much I LOVE your channel? Not just the research, the material, the visuals... but your voice! There are a lot of podcasters/true crime channels I can't listen to/watch because the person's voice either annoys me or sounds weird. Yours is the opposite - beautiful, soothing, and just perfect! Thank you so much! 👏👏👏👏

@dannyhernandez2203

Жыл бұрын

Very true. I imagine the narrator looks like Adele and she's telling me a story. Not that it matters how she looks just a little thing I have in my head. Very soothing voice.

You’re narration is excellent, really appropriate and sensitive, must be difficult considering the terrible tragedy of these crimes x

@Violet-mw9ri

10 ай бұрын

I didn't like hearing the phone calls of them dying. That's so traumatising for any sane person. I don't know why the channel chooses to do that.

SISTERS: Congratulations on your well-deserved 500,000 subscribers!!!! And plenty more to come!! Hope you are celebrating this huge milestone!!!! 💪🏆🎉🎈🎈🥳🥳💃💃

The poor son. I'm surprised he made it through high school. Puberty in a normal life is hard enough, but with a for sure vase of PTSD, I can't imagine....

Gotta love refreshing KZread at just the right time to catch your favorite channel dropping a new video

Hearing the cries on that 911 call is heartbreaking..

Clearly narrated and nicely paced. A good video dealing with a terrible crime.

THE WAY YOU NARRATE THE STORIES IS MIND BLOWING, YOUR VOICE IS VERY CALMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH................

Oh my god, this is horrible. How could someone do this to their own children. I would die for my child. There is no amount of hate for my spouse (my son's father) that would make me "snap" and hurt my child. Poor Sean, I imagine my little boy going through this and it makes me heartsick and nauseated.

@debbieverret4033

Жыл бұрын

That's because you are not narcissistic and you are a loving parent. Narcissism is a mental illness that no medication can control. He thought he was above all including god and the law. This poor family dealt with a lot, very sad.

Why does he get to play the victim? He was the one controlling, manipulative, and abusing. Why does the perpetrator get to tell their side while the actual victims die. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

From the very first picture of Kraig in this video I could clearly see the madness in his bulging eyes. I knew immediately and identified him as being the wrongdoer of what was to come. In every photo, he stands out with that crazed look in his eyes. Rip to his four innocent victims.

@queenicedcoffee4217

Ай бұрын

Exactly

Love this channel! Thank you for such good coverage on these unfortunate events. Heartfelt sorrow for the victims and their families!

The guy behaved sick from the get-go. This is a horrible story. May the victims rest in peace.😢

@basketcase297

Жыл бұрын

Genuine question. But would you also condemn the fact she was sleeping with someone else?

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

@@basketcase297 Cheating is never right, but that doesn't mean that the person deserves to be killed, along with three other innocent others.

@alina0405

7 ай бұрын

@@basketcase297is that seriously your concern after watching this video?

@alina0405

7 ай бұрын

@@basketcase297 Genuine question, do you condemn the raping, manipulation, physical and mental abuse that happened before the “cheating”?

@basketcase297

7 ай бұрын

@@alina0405 well yeah obviously I’d condemn that just as I would cheating. But if you’re in that kind of situation concentrate on getting out of it before jumping into bed with someone else. That’s clearly not going to help.

Poor Sean she is so brave trying to get to a phone. I hope he’s doing the best he can at this point

HOW SHOCKING FOR THE YOUNG SON.......HE LOST EVERYONE!!

Family annihilation is unfathomable, just heinous and evil. A beautiful family wiped out by a murderous, psychopathic monster. Sooooo heartbreaking. 😭😭😭

It’s so crazy to me how Kraig Kahler turned out so sick in the head considering how concerned his father and brother were in the weeks before this tragic incident where they drove out to pick him up so he could be supported while living with them. I guess some people are just born with these severe deficits in empathy.

@fredh999harris8

Жыл бұрын

Humans are not born with EMPATHY. EMPATHY is a value that must be learned by the thinking one has done, or, failed to do.

@prima-luce

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s odd. Any comments by his mother?

@CFAshow5359

Жыл бұрын

@@prima-luce When asked to describe her son she said he was always organized and always followed the rules which I think is a strange thing to say when asked to describe the nature of your child. You’d think they’d say he was affectionate or loved animals or was funny but rule follower? Sounds more like describing an employee.

@melfarm9109

Жыл бұрын

​@@fredh999harris8 of course humans are born with empathy! Some humans are born without it. You have it backwards.

@fredh999harris8

Жыл бұрын

@@melfarm9109 Melissa: "...humans are born with..." & "...some humans are born without..." Which is it??? You argued with me then argued with yourself! Then lost both arguments! Humans are NOT born with or without empathy; nor are they born with any other emotions or "instincts". Empathy is an emotion based on a series of valuations regarding ones relationship to others as well as to oneself. Such valuations are the result of thinking about them or failing to think about them - they don't just suddenly appear like magic out of thin air.

So sad and tragic. What a vile man. My heart goes out to this family.

The society, in which lesbian couple is supported by the children of one of these two, is deeply sick. The father was a psycho, the mother also deeply sick. Poor children.

This is the only channel that I look forward to every Saturday!!

Thanks for the update and honoring the legacy of PJ

get tired of narcissists and psychopaths playing the mental health card every time they do something like this

You could see red flags everywhere that this wasn't going to end well. Hopefully for Sean, he'll get the necessary support to get through this nightmarish situation; that most likely will be life long.

@Greyy66

10 ай бұрын

What the man did was wrong , but Karen wasn't an angel by any means , she left her marriage and the house she bulid with her husband to go after a relationship with another woman which is another big problem from the start , she is a mother and a wife , not a teenage girl who is being ignored by her parents so she gets into her gross lesbian phase , it disgusts me seeing people are way beyond their "dating" days and go after sexual feelings that aren't just wrong according to every single major religion on earth , but also causes a divide in society between children and their parents

@AmadeusBrown

8 ай бұрын

@@Greyy66Your homophobia and religious bullshit aside she was unhappy in her marriage and the guy was a controlling narcissist. She did something about it and the only thing she did wrong was still seeing the dude and not moving as far away from him as she could.

@rainie7011

7 ай бұрын

@@Greyy66Why is dating the same sex wrong? Really think about it. You've been taught by other humans this-not any God. In the 80s-90s in Britain many of us were raised to see it as a bit weird or embarrassing but we've evolved since then and realise that was just repeat messages taught culturally that were actally rubbish. Stay off the dark computer games too. It's not healthy for your mind.

@alina0405

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Greyy66and murder your whole family doesn’t cause divide between parents and children? Get your priorities straight if your more disgusted by LOVE then a man who is a narcissistic sociopath who raped,manipulated and physically abused a woman and also slaughtered his whole family except for his poor son that has to live with trauma for the rest of his life.

@olivaredito3437

6 ай бұрын

​@@AmadeusBrown in your eyes* that's all she did wrong, but your eyes mean nothing as they have zero direction, she did plenty of wrong and that was a hand in her and her families demise.

People ask, why did they stay or why didn't they just get away. It's never that easy. In some ways there was a sort of closure or justice . That being said, I will never understand how someone can kill their spouse and their own children. My heart goes out to people who have no way to get out of a dangerous situation.

This breaks my heart...l had a friend who went through the same thing with her controlling husband....but she told no-one of her plans to leave him.., least of all him. She planned it for a year, with 2 kids and moved 500 miles away and made a fresh,HAPPY start. l think she could have been a victim too if she had told her husband she was leaving him. l too was in a controlling relationship...never again. Watching this breaks my heart ...what an evil man..with love from the UK

My mom and dad both were violently stabbed to death Aug 16 1976 I'm now 58 and have always been fascinated by murders, probably because of what happened to me. Watching these murder case episodes are very addictive. I feel for those effected

@katerinagiannioudi401

8 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for you

@weneedsaving515

7 ай бұрын

@@katerinagiannioudi401 thank you. You just learn to live through it.

Someone help me understand why you would choose to murder someone instead of divorcing them??? I've been married and divorced, paid child support for 15 years, paid for my child to go to college, it wasn't easy, but I'm here still here living and loving life!!! It took quite a few years, but I actually have a friendly and healthy relationship with the mother of my child!!!

@lr6477

Жыл бұрын

Whyd she choose to have an open gay affair in front of everyone? Rather than divorce and leave? Not cool either. Obviously murder isn't right.

@imaginarylivingbody7154

Жыл бұрын

@@lr6477 Why does it matter if the affair was gay or not…?

@ashleighsparkle8810

Жыл бұрын

Same for me. Divorced, split custody, remarried, quite happy living life. It’s because there isn’t something deficient with us.

@trawlins396

Жыл бұрын

Stop pretending to be clueless. Maybe stop virtue signaling. It's not about what YOU did. This situation was a mess.

@trawlins396

Жыл бұрын

​@@imaginarylivingbody7154 it matters.

Really well presented vid. What an awful tragic incident. My heart goes out to that poor boy.

Of course he’d plead insanity, he is a narcissist after all nothing is their fault but everyone else’s. The mug shot of him smiling says it all. And the smirking in the courtroom. It’s all about control, moment he lost it that’s when he made the decision. The fact that he killed the girl’s too, shows the hatred. I’m glad Shawn survived, I hope he is ok. I wish they all did. Truly heartbreaking. Rest In Peace to all 4 victims 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

Thanks for sharing.

I knew as soon as you said Shawn was accepting of sunny... I knew you were going to say Shawn saw it as a invitation to a threesome and encouraged that relationship til he figured out that neither women wanted anything to do with him which is absolutely no shocker.. I do feel so bad for their son losing his whole family due to his father act of jealousy and ego..

@debraduhon958

Жыл бұрын

You have the names mixed up. Shawn is the son, Kraig is the father/husband

@cynthiahusband106

Жыл бұрын

How horrible for the son, hope someday he can learn how to live with this horrible , unspeakable tragedy the girls were beautiful as the mother was as well--all of it horrible , I have no words ….. RIP to all who perished.

@Monk-eee

Жыл бұрын

Shawn's the kid ...... Kraig's the father, who couldn't satisfy a woman

@agxec2932

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what you have said if Karen had done the same thing to Kraig if he had done the affair and taken away the kids.

@faefee

Жыл бұрын

@@agxec2932probably the same thing but replace “he/him” with “she/her”?

Your videos are so well done! The research and delivery of the content make them so interesting and memorable. This is a tragic, heartbreaking story, one that, unfortunately, is becoming too common. What turns men, who have such anger and feelings of loss of control, into family annihilators? I mean it's just so crazy that I almost can't wrap my mind around it. Anyway. another great video, thank you for posting it!

And when they take his picture... he's smiling. What a POS.

You never know what goes on behind closed doors

You do a fantastic job doing these documentaries thank you

Truly horrific! He sounded like a ticking time bomb. Rest in peace to the family members and may Sean find peace and happiness.

I'm reading these comments, and anyone who is justifying what he did is not well themself. Smh, May they rest peacefully 🙏🏽.

Shaun, be a better man despite your tragic losses. Your father was not a good man, you can be so much better. I hope you have people around you that you love enough to let them live too. Control is for driving cars, boats, planes and trains, not and never ever, people.

Another excellent production! Cheers 🍻