Wait. It's believed that she threw her own phone over before jumping, but purposely left behind her OLD phone, a valentine from "brayden" & a msg on her window dirt "I love you brayden" to make sure everyone knows she did this over heartbreak for "brayden"? NO ONE thinks Camila lured her there & pushed her over, then sent 3 messages from her phone & threw that over as well? Why would she have done her makeup if she was planning to jump?

@cuekinaja

Жыл бұрын

Wow... that's a plausible theory.

@OneBadAssMoMo

Жыл бұрын

This makes sense.

@catgiles3268

Жыл бұрын

Good point. That, to me, makes more sense!

@meghanm5000

Жыл бұрын

Very good point..I’m curious if they’ve thought about that. Cuz that definitely makes sense.

@CoachCreesh

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, there has been cases where some people (mainly women) who commit sui$!de will get dressed and do their makeup before taking pills to od.

If you can’t FaceTime someone or see them in person, that’s a HUGE red flag. Period.

@kaylajury5001

Жыл бұрын

Especially after your friend breaks up your perfect relationship and then sets you up with someone you've never met, never mind the fact that he's in prison. The whole story is fishy af and Camila is a psycho

@SM-ef5rl

Жыл бұрын

True

@TheBasedCanadian

Жыл бұрын

100%

@rebeccabejenaru

Жыл бұрын

That also goes for if you've seen them before, but then they ghost, or play Narcissist games. Been through both. Never been worth it....not even close.

@davidwright873

Жыл бұрын

The dad. Should a known better

The saddest part about Renee’s passing is, that she was robbed of a possibly wonderful life with this sweet soul Angus.

@beverlydawson7746

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing .

@thebetnk

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow she ruined everything for her

@MrMagoo-rg8er

5 ай бұрын

Why break up a wonderful relationship your in without any investigation or proof something wrong was being done? Makes no sense to me.

@blaken2651

5 ай бұрын

Well she killed herself over a dude she never met. Over an online boyfriend…. I don’t feel bad. Look what she did to her family. Selfish.

@MadaraUchiha-ly8wr

5 ай бұрын

That relationship was just crazy🤨

The fact Camilla was not charged of ANYTHING is absolutely despicable.

@funtyes1970

3 ай бұрын

lol how going to charge someone if there no law has been broken. yes, I think should she pay for something, but you have to look at it if you were on a jury. it never be in the court cuz she didn't break the law

@majestictravler5717

3 ай бұрын

There’s Justice and there’s Justice. Had it been one of my kids God help her.

@kdee_serikali5975

2 ай бұрын

I think she probably pushed her

@kdee_serikali5975

2 ай бұрын

Camilla pushed her!

@Romanus-

2 ай бұрын

Make vigilantism great again.

Their police department needs a tech guy. How embarassing that a 13 year old found a way to crack open the case?

@lisajones2412

Жыл бұрын

and how come they couldnt find the deleted messages, isnt there always an IT trace of everything??

@littlepeky

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 I thought the same

@user-gj1me4mf5c

Жыл бұрын

PD's simply can't pay the $100 per person app fee. They can do this, but taxpayers can't afford this b.s.

@user-gj1me4mf5c

Жыл бұрын

@Lisa Jones Depending on your carrier, it gets deleted pretty quickly.

@auzieblo

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-gj1me4mf5c I hope you're being sarcastic, right?

This is why it’s so important to build up your child’s self esteem so they know they don’t deserve to be treated any kind of way by “friends”

@cristooreal7996

Жыл бұрын

I've never been thru domesticcience ,and i don't understand it,why they stay. I say they are weak

@LifeisaBeautifulting

Жыл бұрын

@@cristooreal7996 Well you've never been through it, so it's probably not your place to give an opinion

@stigmatizedk.jasuicidesurv9216

Жыл бұрын

@@cristooreal7996well there you go, you’ve never been through it. Let me help you with some insight. The part your missing is the abusers most powerful weapon. It’s called “cognitive dissonance” this is where there are two statements that are in direct contradiction with one another but both are equally true to the person experiencing them. A good example of this would be maybe the nurse that smokes. They know it’s bad for them, they plan to quit, but daily life and the stress of their high demand job, they think “it’s ok for a bit longer bc i need to get to XYZ point to quit”. Gaslighting is the other powerful tool they all use. It’s part of how they wear their victims down and skew reality. This is a slow process. If it was a fast process, anyone would see it plain as day and run. In the real world, it’s a slow, painful and methodical process. DV survivors are in fact some of the strongest people you will ever meet. We’ve stared hell in the face and those of us that are lucky, escape alive. We use our stories to help educate people like you and help other survivors escape. Real life DV isn’t like the movies. Our abusers are charming, most of the time they are very intelligent, they wear a facade and mask in every public encounter. The mask is who we fall in love with. By the time it’s clear there’s a problem, many of us are trapped. Bc what narcissists and abusers do is systematically tear you down and back you into a corner. They choose their victims bc their victims are genuinely everything the narcissist could never be. They are light, they are empathy, they are love that’s immeasurable. It starts small enough. Placing doubt that sounds like loving concern that touches your self esteem first, they are masters of triangulation. The reason so many get caught up is because these abusers have their entire lifetime of practicing these toxic manipulations and masks and the victims are engaging in what they believe to be the best or healthiest relationship they have ever had in the beginning. It’s part of that mask and carefully curated. Then they will start slowly taking over every aspect. Financial, social etc. this is called “goalpost shifting”. By the time we realize something is wrong, many of us are so scared, don’t have full access to our funds, or children that they threaten to weaponize. I would implore you to do some research on survivor accounts and how it actually happens rather than making statements from your very limited scope that add to the stigma and harm of actual abuse survivors trying to escape. You haven’t lived it. And I hope you get to continue your bubble where you haven’t experienced it. But just know, it can easily happen to you. You think it can’t and you’re untouchable? You might be at the most risk for it happening with that mindset. That’s how we miss the red flags. Stay safe and blessed and think twice before you put words I to the world on an experience you have never lived 🙏🏼❤️

@shiiaustria8521

Жыл бұрын

@@stigmatizedk.jasuicidesurv9216 right on point. I experienced it and this is exactly what it is. That's why is so hard to let go. Add trauma bond also. People miss the good times and tend to ignore the bad times.

@oaktownstunna

Жыл бұрын

It's called self-esteem for a reason and not us-esteem, you give them positive affirmation so they don't look for validation outside of themselves. Self-esteem comes from within not from without.

This case is so sad. This is why we need very strong laws against stalking in all it's forms.

I can't believe they gave her immunity without knowing everything first. I'm so sorry for your loss it's heart breaking

@funtyes1970

3 ай бұрын

what would you like be done to her there no laws have been broken? you can't charge someone cuz you feel like they should be in prison?

The fact that this can’t be shown in Australia, where it should be viewed the most, is at least concerning and speaks volumes of their authorities

@agirlnamedtomm940

Жыл бұрын

Why can't it be shown there

@piroko13

Жыл бұрын

@@agirlnamedtomm940 KZread’s local policies in Australia and New Zealand. If you go to this channel’s community tab, their second newest post (about this video) says they’re sorry to the people living there because it can’t be shown there

@GeeCoach35

Жыл бұрын

She chose a bad boy that she never met over a real guy who was treating her good.

@Christa.Francis

Жыл бұрын

​@@piroko13 OH MY GOSH !! That's absolutely insane that this cannot be shown there !! WOW ! I honestly can't wrap my mind around that ,, I don't understand why .. it makes this story even more sad 😟

@jcolledge88

Жыл бұрын

Im in Canada all it shows is sensitive content and to click if i want to continue then it works

It’s pretty brilliant how her dad analyzed the messages for patterns in communication.

@ellaella5537

Жыл бұрын

It is

@normacook8325

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame the family had to do everything--searched and found her shoes, found the pattern in the texts, found the app to unlock her phone...😢 They should be commended on their perseverance!

@malaika4960

Жыл бұрын

And to the 13 year old who helped crack the code.

@yeseniapastor7165

Жыл бұрын

Yes he loved her and care not like the police

@clairecooper197

Жыл бұрын

I’m absolutely gobsmacked that someone could be so wicked. I hope she is haunted by her actions for the rest of her life. What a despicable human. I can’t believe someone married that evil woman, how will their children feel when they learn the truth about their mother! RIP kind soul. Sending love to your friends and family. ❤❤ keep fighting for justice. xxxxx

After years and years of watching true crime, this one takes the cake! It is unfathomable that Camilla wasn’t charged. Very disturbing. Deleted messages can be obtained. This police department is just inept.

@mariaimperatricedamore1639

4 ай бұрын

Who knows if something deeper has been going on. I mean, who's this Camilla woman, who're her family and their links .......... Powerful people? Just saying

@Vasilia4

4 ай бұрын

How can she be charged if she didn't commit a crime? Not to mention, if Brady had been a real person the result would have been exactly the same

@concernedamerican8

18 сағат бұрын

​@@Vasilia4except you nor anyone else knows that because no one knows what Camila said to her before she died. Maybe Camila told her the truth that she was Brayden, and Renae just couldn't handle the betrayal and embarrassment. No one truly knows. I also think it's entirely possible Camila is the one that killed her and got away with it.

Imagine ending your life for someone you have never been with in your life, not a call, just texting! It makes me wonder about her sense of self-worth, self- esteem....and this relationship with her family. So weird!

@birinaL

7 ай бұрын

True

@edwardr9130

7 ай бұрын

All for a felon lol, why she couldnt choose some regular guy, oh yeah hes too boring lol

@trwesq1

5 ай бұрын

​@@edwardr9130right. I just don't get it.

@titonik9290

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, makes zero sense. She spent 1.5 years texting someone she's never heard, let alone seen.

@bookofthewarsofthelord9273

5 ай бұрын

​@@titonik9290her mom said it "we are accepting". Dont judge on display.

Camilla can't just walk away from this as a free woman. She has to be treated the same as a male stalker. This beautiful family deserve justice. Shame on the Australian justice system!

@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916

10 ай бұрын

​@@NonWokeOr the same criminal penalties in any case. Female privilege is not only real, it can be easily proven by family court, divorce court, alimony, criminal penalties, etc. Basically anything men and women use together, women are at a significant and easily tracked advantage.

@livinfuller

10 ай бұрын

Agree….I’m so confused why the police didn’t freeze her phone acct, or charge her with premeditated manslaughter. She literally planned everything out then mentally abused /controlled her to her death.

@WinterDanielle_xo

10 ай бұрын

​@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916😊

@c.a.greene8395

9 ай бұрын

​@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916sorry dude, there is no female privilege in family court issues - it's CHILD PRIVILEGE Men enter court complaining about the loss of ownership and their personal rights INSTEAD of speaking to the rights of the child to know it's father... Most men only want custody to control or harm the wife for leaving them... Judges give the main caregiver of the child custody...and do you know why? Besides being lazy parents 99% of men do not know their own children's birthdates, they do not know their children's full legal names, nor their ages, they don't know the doctors, or teachers names, allergies, medications, or the names of their teachers or friends... Dad's know very little about their own kids because dad's are lazy parents who only need to show up to get kudos, women on the other hand spend 24/7/365 days a year with their children... Men are selfish parents who always put their own needs before the children... Children raised by single fathers are raised by babysitters, or dad's latest squeeze, grandma or strangers...these fathers are so selfish they would deny their own children the love and care of a mother...

@c.a.greene8395

9 ай бұрын

Why not? Guys have been using gay privileges over straights for ever... The first cat fisher killed the man with his car, he got free surgery, transitioned into a woman and then was given woman of the year award... A MAN named Chris Jenner...he was caught and feared being exposed, so he waited for the man to leave his house and ran him over with his car...he got a free pass...even won awards and over 1 million dollars for free surgeries... Sure sounds like gay privilege to me...

Angus looks so happy when he talks about her! He just glows! This thing is SO messed up. I hope Camila gets hers, soon. She's pure evil.

@Leosmommy19

Жыл бұрын

He was still holding out hope, he talks like he's still in love with her, so sad. That was wifey right there😢

@juliestrickland7754

Жыл бұрын

@@Leosmommy19 Ikr?😢😢

@primesspct2

Жыл бұрын

You know shes just controlling her new husband, and anyone else she can. She is a manipulator, and craves any attention and control she can get, she loves the power over others.

@ingridakerblom7577

Жыл бұрын

I feel so sorry for him, for them both & what could have been.. He will forever be affected by this. And for what... This sick womans greed

@ingridakerblom7577

Жыл бұрын

​@@primesspct2 i bet she will never ever stop..

To The Marsden Family: In the chance that you may see and read the comments pertaining to this video, your daughter and/or sister, I want to say a few things to you. First and most importantly, I am so deeply sorry for your loss and I would like to send my condolences. Watching this video and hearing the heinousness of the actions/ manipulation that this evil woman has done angers my soul deeply!! 😔😢 Next I would like to say that I will be praying for y'all! May the Holy Spirit fill each of your hearts with comfort, grace, mercy, and strength! 🙏

She didn’t jump… she was pushed

Ive watched a lot of true crime and 48 hours. This one for me goes to the next level of psychopathic behavior. To betray somebody for so long in such an intimate way is hard to understand.

@davisholman8149

11 ай бұрын

Ikr?? That girl was evil beyond words - then rakes her over the coals when she is already dead. SHAMEFUL B___CH!😡

@IAdler-nk6qe

10 ай бұрын

Envy on steroids...

@VICTORIA-rf8pd

10 ай бұрын

You can see clearly the victim was much prettier than the attacker. When you have a deceptive criminal mind jealousy is seeing. Blessings to victim and family of victim!

@INDREAMSBEGINSRESPONSIBILITIES

10 ай бұрын

Livegore is better. No lying narration just raw footage. This is feeble

@mol588

10 ай бұрын

​@@VICTORIA-rf8pd Oh yes, she was obsessively, bitterly jealous of the much prettier, more attractive beautiful soul that Renaé was .. so she set out to torment and literally hounded the girl to death . Seems Camilla was infatuated with Renaé and expressed "love" by pretending to be male . Let's hope someone is keeping a close eye on it, and her children, maybe the mother-in-law or her own Mum, who know how dangerous she can be, after watching this video .. ❤🕊Renae🕊❤

The fact that anyone would marry Camilla and have children with her after all of this is bizarre to me. Not only does the family need to get justice but I’m concerned for the children she’s raising

@cathyhunter1263

9 ай бұрын

She's crazy

@MishaMishaSoprano

9 ай бұрын

She will destroy their lives, one way or another. Narcissists abuse everyone in their path. Every human is just another appliance to be used. HG Tudor is a great source of education on this. Wouldn't be surprised to find that she used pregnancies to ensnare her victim. I personally know one who used 8 children to ensnare her victims.

@OntarioBearHunter

9 ай бұрын

Karla Homolka has kids and volunteered at her kids school when they were young

@thunder05kokey13

9 ай бұрын

She is evil

@Tropicanax7x

9 ай бұрын

Like the Casey Anthony case. I think it takes someone who has an open heart to everyone, obviously, to be open to hearing their side of the story, and I'm sure Camilla had painted a prettier picture for him.

You cannot have a relationship or love someone you have never met. Why did her parents not question this? Social media and the Internet has a lot to answer for. Without that none of these things would happen.

@mariaimperatricedamore1639

4 ай бұрын

It always happened, albeit in different ways

@bcnotpc659

4 ай бұрын

these parents are terrible

@mediocreman2

5 күн бұрын

I hate social media too, however writing letters to prisoners is not a new thing.

@joytimmons

13 сағат бұрын

Exactly.

She sends 3 final messages to her mom, Camilla and Brayden before jumping to say she loves them and is sorry. What doesn't make sense to me is that she had already ended her relationship with Camilla and despised her for her abuse. Why would she message her and tell her she loves her? I have a weird feeling it was Camilla sending all those messages.

Deleted text messages can be easily recovered. What is the Australian police doing?!?!

@laurarebb6923

5 ай бұрын

Failing, obviously.

@bookofthewarsofthelord9273

5 ай бұрын

Not always. Several factors depend on that

@rz5062

5 ай бұрын

@@bookofthewarsofthelord9273 Like what?

@anneofgreengables1619

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

@fly89

4 ай бұрын

her new phone was not found. it was probably lost in the sea. so they couldn’t recover it. Her old was in the car.

The way her first bf lit up and the way his voice seemed to dance when he remembered the first day he met her. 😢

@Anaana-jl5kg

4 ай бұрын

Crazy.. That girl wasn’t stronger mentally and was manipulated.

@chrischrishiott8843

Ай бұрын

I know they looked like a good couple together and Camilla couldn't stand it

As a father of 2 young women, this story both broke my heart and infuriated me. And seeing how heart broken her baby brother is made it hurt even more. Excellent journalism.

I feel terribly sorry for Renae and her family 🕊 Renae seems like she was sunshine in human form. That wasn't a suicide, Camila murdered her out of jealousy. The fact that Camila is married with kids, living as if nothing happened... That's the life Renae would've deserved. When her brother started crying I lost it... 😢 The laws are ridiculous, Camila deserves jail. I can't imagine the pain her family, friends and her long term boyfriend are going through. I wish them all the best and I hope they know that Renae and what happened to her will never be forgotten. 🤍🕊 And for the people blaming Renae herself: Camila manipulated and threatened her over years. Do y'all know what that does to a person? Renae wanted to be loved, that's all. She would've never killed herself if it wasn't for Camilla. RIP beautiful soul. ⭐

This is not a suicide. This is murder in plain sight

@trose3070

11 ай бұрын

M

@maryalonso1991

11 ай бұрын

Camilla pushed her to the water !!!

@MadScientist267

11 ай бұрын

The easiest way to defeat your enemy is to have your enemy destroy itself from within.

@zoni36

11 ай бұрын

Anyone else want to know exactly where Camilla was that night? Even if they don’t hv access to the texts, they have access to the towers where Camilla’s phone pinged from. They found shoes but no other evidence? My conspiracy theory is that Camilla met Renee at the Gap, drove her somewhere else, killed her , then went back to the Gap throwing the phone in the ocean and leaving the shoes on the beach . I think they will find Renee’s remains somewhere far away from the Gap.

@morganrose6974

11 ай бұрын

She killed her, period! That girl was over there and killed her and left her phone at home and took her to the bridge or the side of the road and dumped her

I have a hard time believing Camilla didn’t directly kill Renae. Renae found out the truth and Camilla made it look like Renae was suicidal.

@NN-re7cy

11 ай бұрын

That is exactly what happened.

@Sharmichelle3

11 ай бұрын

I was just thinking this right here. I think Camilla killed Renae. When the host stated that Renae may have thrown her phone before she jumped, I thought to myself - no she was killed and Camilla got rid of Renae's phone. Camilla may think she got away with everything, but karma comes out of nowhere when you least expect it.

@volume2517

11 ай бұрын

She did. Camilla killed Renae.

@taihinatamar2736

11 ай бұрын

That's a really good thought!

@kadygirlforever

11 ай бұрын

Yes. Who redoes their makeup and fixes their hair with the intention of jumping off a cliff?

This is sad. This is a prime example of parents wanting to be their daughter's friend and not wanting her to be upset with them, instead of stepping in after (s) he initially disrespected the mom. My mom was very intuitive and thankfully spoke up when she had a "weird feeling " about someone. Also, who would condone their daughter dating someone in prison? So unfortunate this happened 😞. Rest in peace Renee 🙏 ❤.

@NunyaBizness2.0

3 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree! When her daughter needed guidance and support she wasn’t there to give it for fear of upsetting her. I have no issue with telling my kids the hard truths of life and I won’t co-sign any BS. That’s why we are so close and they come to me for everything. They know I always have their best interest at heart

@Theduffer25

2 ай бұрын

Give them a break for god sake. This was carried out very seekly by a childhood 'friend'. Taking to much control of a child's life can also have damaging longterm effects.

@ManjariIR

Ай бұрын

Daughter dating a criminal in jail , person she never met. So many red flags and the parents are supportive to this craziness? Can’t believe this madness. She looked like a sweet angel who needed serious help.

I want to send my sincere condolences to the Marsden family who seem like very nice, down-to-earth and pure people. They didn't deserve what this monster did to their daughter, and this case has touched me so much that it brought me to tears. I'm going to mention Renae to everyone so that my family and friends remember her name and become aware of the evil, shady world of catfishing.

So she threw her phone, then jumped? Gimme a break man. Sounds to me like Camilla set it all up. I don’t for a second believe that Renae jumped. Camilla made sure the phone would never be found, and probably murdered Renae. I cannot believe how quick the Police are to dismiss all of this. What a fkn disgrace!! My heart goes out to this family. Oh the grief and pain they live with, day in and day out. I’m so sorry!

@Kat.Evangeline

6 ай бұрын

Lazy cops 😮

@williamblackfyre4866

5 ай бұрын

My red flag went off when the narrator said "best friend of 5 years". It's a weird sentence. Most people's best friends are who they knew from childhood. I'm only a few minutes in but it sounds like Camille is Brayden.

@nunyabidnazz2311

5 ай бұрын

@@williamblackfyre4866 You nailed it!! That’s why we must always trust our guts/radar! Yours is on point!

@babyturkey8342

4 ай бұрын

​@williamblackfyre4866 me and my best friend now of 10 years met at age 25...we didn't know one another as children....that's a weird thing to say

@elsavaldovinos4073

4 ай бұрын

Did they even try looking into her best friend or look somewhere for more evidence where the phone is or if a body ever washed up this is all wrong 😢

Watching this has me stunned. I once had an obsessive friend swoop into my life, love bomb me, and try to break up the best relationship of my life. Thankfully I listened to my husband and got rid of her. It chills me looking back at her calculated behaviour. So sad for Renae,and her family, for what that evil girl did.

@jennifer14256

4 ай бұрын

And imagine if that person had known you well since childhood. So much information to use in their manipulating. Ugh

@markcarpenter6020

3 ай бұрын

Wish my ex had been like you. But sadly she was easily swayed. She made a "friend" online and not long after our marriage ended.

@y.peffle2802

Ай бұрын

classic narcissistic behavior

To catfish someone you don't personally know is evil and horrible but to do it to someone you physically know and not only know but are best friends with is just pure evil.There are no words for the sheer nastiness of any person who would even think about doing it let alone actually doing it.Just evil.

My heart absolutely breaks for these parents. How incredible to see a marriage persevere through something so inconceivably traumatic.

This is by far the most disturbing thing I've ever seen... And I binge watch crime stories. This is so horrific. I am truly shook.

@michaelangst6078

Жыл бұрын

Really? The woman had to have some sort of mental illness to kill herself over some guy in jail she has never met or spoke to..

@Ashrock689

Жыл бұрын

Me too.....

@curtisk2286

Жыл бұрын

Quite the promo. I'll continue 😮

@ivafrosh7675

Жыл бұрын

Oh, same here. I feel horrible for the parents.

@sashfao3209

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 😳

How can Australia NOT access text messages that have been deleted? Nothing is ever deleted! The tech work on this was infuriating all the way around.

@larajones175

11 ай бұрын

Facts. Only in Australia can you can actually coherence someone to commit Suicide And not be victimized or charged for the merciless cause of the Death of the person you literally Murdered. Outrageous.

@minivan903

11 ай бұрын

And why not use two separate phones? If she only used one then the messages would have shown to have come from the same phone number. Camilla's phone number. Plus if she had used two then she could have overlapped the the messages from her and Brayden. Heck, not overlapping them is how the idea of Renae being catfished first got started.

@Cats_crystals_and_ghosts

11 ай бұрын

Australia needs more technology and new laws immediately. This is so outrageous.

@fearwater5

11 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that. I didn't think they were that backwards.

@hollycolotta9859

11 ай бұрын

That was the saddest story. I've never heard anything like this before. You need signatures or help to get this law I'm in

The strength of the Marsdens is extraordinary and beautiful..

Seeing Renae’s brother fight to hold back his tears broke my entire heart. This poor sweet loving family did not deserve this horrific torment. Camilla doesn’t deserve the life she currently has after everything she did to Ranae and her family. It’s disgusting!

Those parents are SOO strong. They've never recovered their daughter's body. The one shot they had to open an investigation was Camila's phone and that fell through. And the fact that they never saw any justice and still run into that POS in supermarkets! Omg the fact that they are still standing, God bless them. R.I.P Renae.

@miligutierrez9973

Жыл бұрын

Karma will get her Plus she is ugly and unhappy

@Twisted.Ginger

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! As a mother I'd be a basket case probably, and I'm usually the strong one in situations!

@adrianaevseev7655

Жыл бұрын

Rip 🙏💐🌹May God bless this family

@jacobpotter2237

Жыл бұрын

If they were so strong they would have never let their daughter date a guy in prison or would have seen the 100 red flags and intervened.

@joshgarbemusic

Жыл бұрын

​@@jacobpotter2237 I agree. I think they're terrible parents. She says 'Brayden' sent a nasty text to her and she let it go. There can be no place for accepting that level of disrespect towards parents. She should have told Renea that she is forbidden to continue with him if she wants to have a relationship with her mother - her 'best friend.' It is a parents job to discipline and teach their children, not allow them to bring ruin onto themselves.

I have a hard time believing that she took her own life. I immediately felt in my gut that Camilla had something physically to do with her ‘jumping’. When a woman has a broken heart, the first thing they do is go to their best friend. How do they not know that Camilla and her met at that spot or something? This is infuriating!

@chevitapene

10 ай бұрын

Now that makes more sense and could possibly be so. That's what I was thinking as well...how do they know she jumped! Camilia seems very unhinged and honestly I'm not sure why their friendship lasted so long. This story is very bizarre.

@MarshasJourney

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought. Why wouldn’t the text alarm her?

@mandybell7884

9 ай бұрын

I Agree !

@priscillaghostcruze7541

8 ай бұрын

This though I thought too.

@EricaCornelius

8 ай бұрын

We would all go to our best friend….. I think like others as well, she maybe didn’t commit suicide. This needs further investigation… I hope they reopen this case.

So many red flagsssss Your friend ruins your good relationship. Then goes onto set you up with a man in prison for manslaughter. That's no friend. Why did she even continue being friends with her? Sooooo many questions 😑

Never underestimate the vile manipulative depths of a girlfriend to another girlfriend. I wish I had an entirely different set of girlfriends growing up as they crushed all my dreams and destroyed the little self esteem I had. It takes decades to fix.

It's obvious that the evil Camila was jealous of Renae's looks, personality and relationship with Angus. What a diabolical crime.

@august1095

Жыл бұрын

and was obsessed with her

@pennyrapp7372

Жыл бұрын

I think Camila loved Renae but Renae wasn’t going to love her that way. What a coward and a monster ❤. Hope she stays away from humans she needs to be in a mental facility.

@divinesunshine1881

Жыл бұрын

120%

@kikoarmani

Жыл бұрын

Shes evil and demonic

@FaizaFarah-pj4dz

9 күн бұрын

Yes, so sad

Couple of thoughts: 1) This was NOT an ordinary friendship. There was a very deep emotional, abusive connection between these two women. Most friendships develop and dissolve fairly naturally without an overt effort to "break up" and as many women know, most of the time when a friendship inevitably ends, there is RARELY any closure or official acknowledgement of it ending. The fact that she felt that she needed to wait until C was out of the country to break it off speaks volumes about the nature of their relationship. It was an abusive situation, NOT a friendship. 2) I think it's highly possible she actually did find out that C was the "boyfriend" and whatever emotions and feelings she was experiencing (anger, disgust, fear, shame, sadness, etc) were the final catalyst that resulted in her taking her life. 3) As someone else mentioned, C murdered her and made it appear that it was a suicide. Judging by the effort she put into this elaborate scheme, it is definitely a viable possibility that she murdered this girl. It is so incredibly sad.

@laudetango7052

Жыл бұрын

Fully agree with point number 2. That was my main thought watching this whole thing. Earlier in the video it even said Rene told her mom she realized what Brayden was all about. 4:05. I think it’s highly probable the lost 91 messages would reveal that Camila had told Rene and that that’s what pushed her over the edge. Rene probably felt it was her only way out from Camila, and just the weight of Camila’s abuse and manipulation.

@redpillyoass5894

Жыл бұрын

Agree with everything you said 100%. Like why would Renee just leave her shoes behind? And I’m sure Camilla tossed the phone in the water. But the police should easily be able to retrieve all deleted messages and all messages on the missing phone.

@Natalia-hf3et

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@heathernks8

Жыл бұрын

​@@redpillyoass5894 There are so many "experts" on here. This was 2013. If the average Joe who becomes a Congressman can't differentiate between wifi and an app during fb & tiktok hearings, why is everyone shocked that the average Joe policeman couldn't recover deleted texts in 2013? OF COURSE it took a 13-yr-old Zoomer to figure it out.

@heathernks8

Жыл бұрын

I've been friends with a woman I met when I was 12 & I'm 50 now, so I disagree that friendships "inevitably" end. Maybe in the age of social media, but we don't all behave like this. I DO agree that the "official" ending of a friendship is unusual for a woman.. It struck me as so unusual that I almost believed Camila's version of events-until that "Sleep with C/NO." text exchange. I hadn't considered the idea that Camila killed her, but that explains why she looked so evil to me!

It’s confusing how someone can fall that deeply for someone else just through texting them and never even seeing them. But RIP.

@Anonymous38572

7 күн бұрын

Especially someone who’s supposedly in prison. Why even start talking to them?

I had heard of this story but this was a really good deep dive into the case. Very well done. Camilla is evil. I feel so bad for this family.

I will never understand how people can fall in love with a person they have never met x

@Foxsuper1

6 ай бұрын

they were in it together, a guy in a foreign prison? gimme a break. This is all false, I believe camilla.

@JustMe-ub9yo

6 ай бұрын

Happens all the time

@tylynn256

6 ай бұрын

​@@Foxsuper1I thought Braden was made up

@michelleaw1325

5 ай бұрын

​@tylynn256 yeah he was..guess that person wasn't paying attention to that part..

@fatoujane

5 ай бұрын

I’m telling you, and I got in jail that you’ll know you’ll never see

The police there were so lazy, they wouldn't even try to retrieve the messages from the phone, and the bereaved family had to ask a 13-year-old boy to do that for them. The police didn't investigate the possibility of Camila luring Renae to the cliff, murdering Renae, and making it look like a suicide.

@cuekinaja

Жыл бұрын

Camila tried to kill Renae before. Just like a comment below said: what if Renae didn't commit suicide? After Camila pushed Renae over the cliff, Camila deleted all the messages on Renae's phone that showed how Camila lured Renae to come to the cliff (Renae did her hair and makeup, so maybe to see "Braydon"?), Camila sent the suicide texts with Renae's phone, and put all the fake "evidence" that Renae took her own life over "Braydon" (with the dying message on the car's window, old Valentine's card). Camila might have gotten away with murder.

@OneBadAssMoMo

Жыл бұрын

This makes so much sense to me.

@wiztribe

Жыл бұрын

There’s No Brayden, There’s a Camila! It is/was her ALL along!!!!

@rubygirl214

Жыл бұрын

@@wiztribe I think what she’s saying is that maybe Camilla sent Renae a message as “Braydon” saying he was going to meet her to lure her to the cliff to push her off

@cassidydunn3218

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable...😢

You won’t convince me that Camilla didn’t do this. She was in love with Renee and couldn’t be with her so she lured her to the cliff and pushed her

Did they ever look into this as murder? Was she pushed instead of jumped? It all seems so staged to me. The text messages, the writing on the car window, the fact that her phone was also tossed. She might have literally gotten away with murder by making it only look like suicide.

@nautione9650

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that would actually make more sense! 😮

@hattiesallie2622

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Omg the writing on the window was so weird!!!!

@tantkaos

Жыл бұрын

yea i dont believe she jumped because this guy she never met wants to end things, would guess camilla did it, pushed her :( so sad and crazy.

@Tryme-kya

Жыл бұрын

I do believe Camilla sent that text to the mother to set the stage and then committed the murder..probably luring her there as the friend trying to comfort her after a bad breakup. I strongly feel it was murder.

@zahrahassam4495

Жыл бұрын

I never thought of that. Wow. Seems like this did happen 😢

How such a young sociopath narcissist can destroys someone's life without being held accounatble for her actions is outrageous

@JennMartinello

Жыл бұрын

The true name for what you said she is... Is... A Narcopath

@S_8-

Жыл бұрын

@@JennMartinello Good to know , thanks :-)

@carolineclark4078

11 ай бұрын

That’s Australia for you

@greenjupiter

11 ай бұрын

She looks 47

@JohnWayne-86ed

10 ай бұрын

@@JennMartinello Just making up labels now?... "Narcopath"😂... sure, why not lol. I married a diagnosed narcissist... these people are poison to everyone including themselves.

She didnt commit suicide, she was murdered.

@EvoS76

Ай бұрын

Parents who want to be their kids friend before being a parent have a large part in this. You may feel like she was murdered but if her parents had prepared her for life she wouldn’t have Even been friends with this chick.

Why are we believing that it was suicide when her stalker friend could have killed her if they met to talk about the "Brayden" break up and Renae rejected her for good. Her behavior did not point to suicide at all

Shame on the judge and authorities who so-called handled this case. You have failed this family 💔

@ronniemead805

Жыл бұрын

Big time; they totally ignored the fact that camila may have killed renae and sent all those text messages using renaes phone and then threw the phone in the lake where it could never be found. This woman is evil and should have been punished.

@leighamoro

Жыл бұрын

Why couldn’t she block her tho and she didn’t have to kill herself over it

@queenofhearts6127

10 ай бұрын

@@ronniemead805 I agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if she did indeed push Renae off that cliff or killed her somewhere else and placed her shoes at the cliff top.

@barikiwa22

10 ай бұрын

Karma never sleeps they will suffer

@barikiwa22

10 ай бұрын

​@@Arkengelso now we protect the criminals under the guise of illness, ridiculous

A few years ago a friend of mine started behaving strangely and looked very depressed. I asked him about it and he said he’s fine. I didn’t believe him though so I dug a little deeper and he just told me he’s been sad lately and told me not to tell anyone. I went and got my phone and texted both of his parents IMMEDIATELY! He was mad that I did that but I will never mess around with that kind of stuff. He’s doing very well now. Happy as ever

@jamileighharris444

11 ай бұрын

You’re a good friend. I would have done the same. Keeping secrets can be deadly. I wish everyone would care as much as you do. ❤

@I_AM_TEMPLE

11 ай бұрын

Good Friend!

@user-iw1ym3ri1e

11 ай бұрын

How incredibly brave of you to jump right at that point and probably have a bit to do with his happiness now! People don't take other people's opinions about themselves seriously until disaster/accident happens! God Bless

@christinaeckhart2784

7 ай бұрын

Thank God you did that! Too many people don't want to overstep..... We need to! ❤️

Such a sad situation. I wish Renae would have gotten the help that she needed. Sorry for this family's loss of a beautiful young lady.

Words fail me. This is so heartbreaking yet bazaar! The law 100% needs changing. I can only imagine how devastated Renae’s parents must feel. And don’t think I could be so dignified if this was one of my children. Absolutely horrendous case.

This case is so heartbreaking. What this monster did to this girl was so sick!! She is really a monster. I feel so horrible for the parents.

@princesssolace4337

Жыл бұрын

Agreed ... her name even eerie sounding like Camila Syaitan. What a sick fcuk culture in 'cat fishing'🤬

@maggieferris8155

Жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for her kids... I feel sorry for her husband there names are always going to be tarnished ... he should leave and take the kids with him get rid of that monster her name should be plastered around this should be shared to her Facebook sent to the kids school and also the husbands work albeit I'm making innocent victims suffer but then she's be suffering more

@amc5936

Жыл бұрын

@@maggieferris8155 i was hopping karma would kick in and she would be misserable. instead she lives on and gets to do all that renee wanted to do.

@peppiholliday4525

Жыл бұрын

She needs to be charged for what she did and go to court and from there she needs to be incarcerated in a mental institution for the rest of her life. I don't understand how the laws that be could not find something to charge her with it's just incredibly amazing that she can get by with this but yet Renee is dead. I feel such sorrow and anguish for her parents and her extended family and friends and Renee should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law

@sueannarca9102

Жыл бұрын

@@amc5936 absolutely devastating, but we don’t leave this world without paying for our sins. I’m sure of that, sooner or later that monster will get her turn.

why would a girl consider a relationship with a guy who is in jail for manslaughter?

@cjk8249

Жыл бұрын

Because she was mentally ill and eventually committed suicide. Ultimately I see that oh so outraged mother as probably the most guilty of all the cast besides that nutcase who killed herself.

@clareshaughnessy2745

Жыл бұрын

And WHY would her parents be ok with it??

@mwinchester66

Жыл бұрын

And what parents would ALLOW IT. Everybody lacked common sense in that family, and the foreign predator took advantage of that.

@stevo5000

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@Fruity_Looopy

Жыл бұрын

Why would you consider suicide over someone you haven’t even FACETIMED OR MET. Girl what??????!

Great parenting. She drops a good man that truly loved her for Chad that's in prison for manslaughter. Yeah, not hard to see what direction this would go. Real world.

I am so sorry to the family for their loss. That girl should be held accountable. Idk all the details but it sounds like so much more could have been done in forensics to help. Having a teenage daughter myself, this really spoke and also broke my heart! What a tragedy!

That girl Camilla most definitely had more to do with Renee's death than just catfishing. I believe she very well could have pushed that girl over that cliff after Renee found out the truth. The entire "I love Brayden" written on her windows on her car could have been written by Camilla. I cannot believe that the Australian police won't prosecute her or show the Australian public this video.

@catbishop27

11 ай бұрын

I think it's because they don't want to have any accountability to their OWN failures. Infuriating 🤬

@brroookkeee

10 ай бұрын

Very possible and they can’t even retrieve the messages before the “suicide”

@sutty85

10 ай бұрын

The way someone falls tells you how someone died.

@luzsanabria2053

10 ай бұрын

Cruel 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 Camilla

@arleneportsmouth1263

9 ай бұрын

The other thing is that the Inn was written backwards and that's exactly how Camila writes her ends because she is dyslexic. Absolutely no doubt that Camilla sent those final farewell messages to her mom after she murdered her daughter. Their justice department is lacking in so many areas. First thing the police do is subpoena phone records after a suspicious unwitnessed death. Just shortly before this incident she told Camilla she didn't want to have anything more to do with her. The last thing Camila wanted is to be cut out of the position of Master puppeteer. If someone tells you that you're no longer in charge of pulling the strings then you will lose control of that situation and this psychotic criminal was obsessed with control.

She killed Renae as sure as if she pushed her off the cliff. She's a rabid wolf; utterly devoid of a soul.

I don’t know how to process this… a young woman enters a committed longterm relationship with a felon, and she never, ever met this man in-person, or by voice call, or by video call… across eighteen months?? How?

This takes being “ messed up “ to a whole new level!!!

Catfishing, scamming, and hacking should be illegal. It should also come with very severe consequences in court. Correction: as someone pointed out to me these things are illegal, but I what I was trying to say is that it’s not taken as seriously as it should be in many cases.

@samanthasowell9307

7 ай бұрын

Especially if it causes someone to commit suicide. In the US can't someone be charged for malicious ly deceiving? Like people that bully others online and they commit suicide can be charged with something right?

@gregoryhawsjr3479

7 ай бұрын

Yes agree totally. Yet it happens daily

@Rayis4444

6 ай бұрын

It is, it’s called impersonation.

@Lisa.Lucier

6 ай бұрын

I believe all you pointed out IS illegal.

@barbaraness4507

6 ай бұрын

@@Lisa.Lucier It is, but not really unforced as it should be. I should’ve worded that differently.

This is so incredibly sad. That girl is a psychopath and should be in prison for life. My heart breaks for Renae and her loved ones.

@mwpierre

Жыл бұрын

She is a psychopath. A lot of women are, but the law only punishes physical, violent crimes. The emotional abuse, which women commit usually goes unpunished.

@scarletblaine6166

Жыл бұрын

​@@mwpierre "a lot" of women are psychopaths? 🤦‍♀️🙄 Do you have a source for that? A percentage? Literally any data whatsoever?

@kristinsisson6209

Жыл бұрын

Most fitting and best comment I've read and I'm reading lots of them with something like this. It's murder

@heezypeasy8611

Жыл бұрын

Thank you and yes it absolutely is murder!

@unite4peace88

Жыл бұрын

Yes!, and hard to believe someone married that demon. 😧

The police is so incompetent that a 13yo had to solve the case???

I can't imagine seeing the killer free and being with a family. Absolutely disgusting.

This is like a reminder that no matter how old your kids get. Ask about their friends. Remind them what qualities they give in a relationship/ friendship and what qualities to look for in a friend.

@Hbk-gc7st

11 ай бұрын

Well said!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@dominiquexo4772

11 ай бұрын

After the age of 21 I can no longer intervene in their life💔

@lindahersch3046

7 ай бұрын

That's a whole other matter...agree something was off

Inconceivable that someone who killed her close friend in cold blood lives a happy life later!! The society should shame them at every opportunity.

@chrisgomez860

11 ай бұрын

I'd be hanging posters with camille's picture and what she did around where the monsters lives every weekend.

@lucille.phoenix5504

10 ай бұрын

God will issue final justice to Camilla😅

@candyDander

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisgomez860 That's an interesting idea, because I believe she purposefully makes sure she's in areas where she can be seen by Renae's parents. I can't imagine being this mean, manipulative, and devious to people.

@Quole1234

5 ай бұрын

​​@@lucille.phoenix5504 which God?

@Ash2beauty

5 ай бұрын

@@Quole1234the only God and God that you know is so real that the demon in you couldn’t help but to reply about.

You said in the beginning that she never met “him” in person so...that tells you everything right there

Renee looks EXACTLY like her mother!! Beautiful! Rest In peace precious Angel😢

My mom was catfished for 5 YEARS by ONE person she thought was her friend! It took that long for her to realize the truth! This sick woman never even asked for money so she did it for the thrill sick

@niag7273

Жыл бұрын

Your mom. Is an idiot…. How tf u get catfished for YEARS??? Never FaceTimed or met? DUMBAZZ

@LoveLupe300

Жыл бұрын

😮 omg how did she find out?

@karliann1

Жыл бұрын

@@LoveLupe300 She found forged news articles by comparing them to the originals she looked up the people who were fake this person made up...this person was supposedly dying and then at the end she never did...and a lot more. It was crazy

@karliann1

Жыл бұрын

@@LoveLupe300 This person was pretending to be like 4 other ppl such as a nurse and doctor plus the person wasn't even in our country they lived in Canada I think it was some sort of experiment or something by this deranged lunatic so sad actually

@FreedomofSpeech865

Жыл бұрын

Mother of God! People can be so evil

Renee's family should protest in front of her house every week, letting people in the area know that she pushed someone to suicide purposely.

@lford1130

11 ай бұрын

I feel the same way. Like if that was my daughter, I’d haunt that Camilla girl. She’d never know a moment of peace. I guess Renae’s parents have more grace than I do. 😅

It's a total shame because that beautiful girl could have had any guy on the planet

On line dating is scary as this video shows us. When someone is pestering you or acting strange..Block that person forever. God bless her loving parents.

@MichelleIsabel-OG

6 ай бұрын

It wasn't exactly online dating. Camila saw she couldn't have Renae romantically so she "introduced her ex" to Renea but said he's in jail the only they can talk is FB and texting. So Ranae was gullible meeting "him" which was "Camilla" and that went on for 18 months. Camila is an evil wrench. I hope karma gets her !!!

I had a "friend" similar to Camilla. She did everything in her power to completely destroy my life and it worked for many years. They count on your isolation. Exposing her behavior to our families and friends is what finally ended the lies. Years later I'm still picking up the pieces.

@JohnWayne-86ed

10 ай бұрын

Me too, except it's my vulnerable narcissist wife, she had tried to isolate me by demanding all my time and creating conflict between me and those close to me, then she'd say... "You're going to choose them over your wife who loves you more than they do?!", she'd act charming and try to win them over so they'd like her more than me, if it didn't work she'd create problems out of nothing. Ugh... PTSD inducing memories😑

@chocolar0074

10 ай бұрын

Divorce, it's your only option unfortunately

@JohnWayne-86ed

10 ай бұрын

@@chocolar0074 Yes indeed. I divorced a couple months ago, one of us would have died if I didn't... very toxic, and of course she says I was the toxic, abusive one... no accountability😂

@hertribe1978

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like you've turned yourself around for the good. Some ppl don't recognize this (or chosen not to) 💪 great job

@Rose-tp5zg

10 ай бұрын

I had sisters who did this sort of thing... They had fake profiles. They bad mouth me, and manipulated my friends, and family. My sisters were good at projecting. I went through depression, anxiety because of them. It's true that the truth can seem stranger than fiction. What they did.. can seem unbelievable.

Anyone who acts like Camilla should not be called a friend. She is simply disguised as a friend who's been an enemy all along. I'm disappointed that justice wasn't served in this case.

Even if this was true about the secret relationship, she still had everything to do with the psychological,physical and mental abuse. She tormented that poor girl into suicide.

Such a sad, sad case. I pray for healing of Renae’s family and friends. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Something similar to this happened in the US, and the girl who caused the man to take his life, was prosecuted and put in jail. This Camila needs to feel this family’s pain.

@Nailzbyli

5 ай бұрын

She NEEDS JAIL

@DrAnnBlakeTracy

4 ай бұрын

Yes & that young woman in that US case was on the strongest so called " antidepressant" there is. I have testified in Antidepressant-induced crimes like this since 1992 & that is why I watched this waiting to hear any clues this Camilla was on one of these drugs as well. It would be no surprise to me to learn that was the case! These deadly drugs create heartless unfeeling monsters over time!

@justin9744

4 ай бұрын

Uh that situation is radically different and you would know that if you actually knew anything about what you are talking about.

@laurawelch1056

4 ай бұрын

If you're talking about the how Michelle Carter got Conrad Roy to k!ll himself this is not the same thing. Michelle literally encouraged him to do it, was on the phone with him through it and not only didn't get help but told him not to be a coward and to go through with it. What happened here with Renee is sad and cruel. But it's not the same as what happened to Conrad. I live the next town over to Conrad, he went to high-school in my town.

@TomNoles007

4 ай бұрын

​@@justin9744Your hyperbolic, hysterical outbursts in these comments are more than a little disconcerting. Maybe get offline for a bit, meet some people IRL and see if you can develop a shred of empathy. Just a suggestion...

This is one case where it seems the suicide really could have been an outright murder. My theory is that Renae did her hair and makeup because "Braydon" had decided to see her after all. She drove out to where she expected to meet him, only to find Camila there instead. Maybe Camila then told her the person she was so in love with never existed and she had been pretending to be him all along. If Renae was then totally destroyed emotionally, Camila might have prodded her to commit suicide, or might have actually pushed her over.

@deborah8887

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant theory. It makes total sense.

@NekoArts

Жыл бұрын

Only one problem; he was supposedly in prison so it’s not like he could leave to go on a date if he wanted to.

@ibjensen8626

Жыл бұрын

@@NekoArts Camilla could have told her to meet up with her anywhere. Killed her and driven the car to that spot.

@fasttrackblastback8286

Жыл бұрын

She wrote the message on the window. There were no reports of any suspicious finger prints

@scarlettphoenix7024

Жыл бұрын

But Renae told her parents she’d discovered what Brayden was “all about”. To me this seems like she learned that Camilla was Brayden, and it destroyed her. She couldn’t come to terms with what had been done to her. It’s quite suspicious that Camilla sent a message to Renae’s mother right around the time Renae actually disappeared. I wonder if Renae was ever at that cliff…

Im thankful for people telling me things i needed to hear. I'll take brutal honesty over a deceptive lie.

The fact the offender in this case, said in court “they” (offender and victim) invented the “guy” together, so they could have a “romantic relationship” elevates a reasonable doubt to argue that according to the offender, the victim and offender “were” in a partner intimate relationship…. Nobody took that for granted to argue that Everything the offender says could be used against her in a court of law…???? The point here is not whether or not the victim admitted or not being in a romantic relationship with the offender… is what the offender is saying that could be used to admit the case under domestic violence laws to charge her for abuse that led the victim to her dead. The domestic violence law on coercive control could apply…the disguised was already evident being that it was discovered that the offender catfished the victim, when the messages were recovered….The witness that could testify against the offender to bring charges agaist her on coercive control domestic violence is also the “real” young man whose picture and identity was used in the scheme. In fact he could demand justice for defamation as the use of his identity by the offender was evident to gain manipulation over the victim. In part he could be mentally and emotionally affected by this also. I pray that new law comes into place as Renee died mentally emotionally and bullied by the offender. The offender is a nacisicist sociopath whose feeds by controlling emotions of others. She comes and goes “in control” by asserting herself as a now “wife and mother…” being seen roaming free around town by the victim’s family. It is going to take a toll on them… 😭

Are we sure Ranae isn’t locked in Camilla’s basement or something. This is terrifying and feels like a major failure of the justice system. I’m not convinced Ranae jumped nor was she the one who sent that message to her mom

@JoieJoyJoi

9 ай бұрын

As I'm watching this, since Renae's body or remains were never found, I'm wondering if Renae went "underground" and escaped to a different country faraway where she assumed a whole new name and identity to finally be free of Camila and her sick, evil, and diabolical obsession with her. It truly would be the only way she could be free of Camila, once and for all, and finally live her life in peace. This is my utmost hope for Renae, and that one day, her parents and siblings will know the joy of being reunited with her and never part again.🙏🏼🕊️

@patmandew22

9 ай бұрын

@@JoieJoyJoi that's optimistic, but not realistic... if that were the case im sure she would let her family know she's fine. But mostly, I don't feel like Camilla would warrant an " FBI secret identity", starting a new life in a new city with letting your family think you're dead.

@JoieJoyJoi

9 ай бұрын

@@patmandew22 Good, I'm glad you don't think it's realistic. Hopefully anyone who would think to do Renae harm would think the exact same thing. People do "disappear" without the help, aid, or assistance of the FBI. And yes, only her family could know her true whereabouts. It's not _entirely_ impossible. Where there's a will, there's a way. Strictly my two pesos.

@Materialgirl_3

9 ай бұрын

@@JoieJoyJoiYou people make up anything smh. That doesn’t even sound logical

@JoieJoyJoi

9 ай бұрын

@@Materialgirl_3 If you've never been harassed or bullied so badly that you needed to leave to finally escape the abuse, then yes, this would all seem illogical. That's what bullying/abuse is, illogical.

I hope the laws are passed to criminalize catfishing, Camellia doesn't deserve to walk free, she is a evil person. My heart breaks for Renae's family and friends, she seemed like such a beautiful person.

@angelmac5380

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this case really disturbed me. I was disturbed even more by this monster not being accountable

@DrLuke49

Жыл бұрын

Karma has Camila's number.

@angelmac5380

Жыл бұрын

@@DrLuke49 She has lived all these years with no remorse, with a family. Everything she denied Renae from. That 💀 deserves a hard carma!

@Arianne3011

Жыл бұрын

​​@@DrLuke49 true..... and _karma_ never forgets an address.

@SweetChicagoGator

Жыл бұрын

How is Camilla an evil person due to a naive girl living in cyberspace??? Parents really need to address their daughters dating habits !😢

This is insane . And disgusting that girl isn't being held accountable

Unfortunately, the primary culprit in this story is poor parenting. It's almost always the case with underage suicides. It's sad that our society can no longer point the finger at the true cause due to our desire to manufacture victims rather than accept personal responsibility.

@chickennugget4979

Күн бұрын

Sometimes there are no signs and takes many people by surprise. Have you ever lost anyone to self exists? Sometimes it comes out of nowhere (to others). To blame her mother is insane she clearly loved her mother and her mother loved her. She asked if she was okay and could tell she was off. Sometimes people have off days doesn’t mean they will self exist maybe just cry in their room for a day. How could she have possibly known that? Mind reading? That’s just a hurtful thing to say, even in death they are trying to bring her justice. Her friend obviously fooled her family just like their child. The issue is the “friend” not the parents. Seriously their child is dead and you have the audacity to say things like this? Hindsight is something we all wish we never experienced but it happens to us all. Nobody is perfect nobody will be a perfect person and we make mistakes doesn’t mean they are responsible. They obviously raised a sweet compassionate child so they did something right.

My heart goes out to everyone who gets affected by catfishing. Please do your homework on anyone you meet online. Praying for everything and everyone 🙏😥

@anneperry9014

Жыл бұрын

Actually, don't go on line to meet ANYONE. Don't be a moron!!!!!🙄🙄🤬🤬

@okgirl64

Жыл бұрын

This girl should be locked up..Complete sociopath behavior..and to think she has a husband and children. I met someone that acted nice, was texting and calling me, I thought it was a little much..I ignored my intuition..I ended up regretting..in a short time period, I gave up my home of 12 years, my city , family & friends..he played so many psychological games I nearly went insane, bruising appeared on my body and hairloss.. attempted to live with him..he was cheating and would leave his house for hours..I found out much more..this was just the beginning.. It took me 5 times to really be done, he was always seeing someone as well. I moved in with family in the area.. Another yr and 4 months passed before I got out with my life..he was very mean too. This was all hidden from others. His mom and family think he's someone who is great..this nearly drove me crazy. I'm still not back in my city. I'm very depressed and had worked so hard in my life . I can't wait until the girl in the video go to jail for cat fishing the way she did. And the guy I unfortunately was fooled by get a criminal charge

@msannthrope1863

Жыл бұрын

Pump the brakes there, Saint Francis of a Seesaw.

@msannthrope1863

Жыл бұрын

@@okgirl64 Anyone delusional enough to think they can pray for “everything and everyone” needs to back up just a tad and get over themselves. That’s number one. Number two, last time I checked, freedom of speech was still somewhat of a thing so I went ahead and exercised mine. Is that ok with you? Obviously you didn’t notice Satoshi Nakamoto’s post before mine. He clearly agrees with me.

@okgirl64

Жыл бұрын

@MsAnnThrope when commenting directly is common to tag or highlight their name . Your comment comes in right after mine and I'm notified that I received a comment In which case makes no relevance Obviously

Who leaves shoes before committing suicide by jumping off a cliff? It's odd. What if she was dragged (she lost her shoes during that) and pushed off the cliff? Remember when she told her mother that her friend tried to kill her? She was abused by her friend several times prior to that. Physically her friend was much bigger. She can't fight her. The last moments with the mother and the scenes at the cliff with some text messages leaves so many questions. I don't think it's a suicide.

@enithecat4696

10 ай бұрын

I thought it was quite sketchy as well.... why text someone you no longer have a friendship with??? It doesn't make sense.

@brianavalero3286

9 ай бұрын

After watching this it just seems odd but then again no leaving the shoes behind is somthing i dont understand but sadly it happens ..there was a suicide at my job and security had footage of it ..the young man walked all the way up the stairway took his shoes off and placed them down nicely then jumped ..

How did none of these people think to call the jail and tell them “hey an inmate has a phone under the name Brayden S” and could give evidence. I feel like that would have saved SO much time

I agree wholeheartedly with the comments that believe she was murdered.

Men in prison do not dump any woman. They are desperate to have someone on the outside. There should be a pretty severe punishment for a crime like this. Camilla seems to want attention so badly.

@theresarasche3173

Жыл бұрын

Yeah so give her the attention she’ll receive in prison!

@rjay7019

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know inmates were allowed cell phones and internet access? I've known people in jail in Utah,USA and Las Vegas NV and they were not allowed to have them.

@truthbtoldwright6411

Жыл бұрын

​@@rjay7019 Mobile phones aren't allowed. They are normally smuggled into prison by prison staff and family/friends.

@EBR1

Жыл бұрын

@@rjay7019 They smuggle them in, naturally. A cellphone can cost 1500 dollars or more in prison though.

@edwardbrianna9729

Жыл бұрын

There was no cellphone in jail , because there was no Braden in jail. Braden was Camilla and no one was ever in jail. It was a lie and a ruse made by Camila.

The erased/deleted and Renae's missing phone were to cover up murder. I feel in my gut that Renae was lured there and pushed off. When she left her home she thought she was going to meet someone or possibly him. She fully intended to be coming back home. Why would you redo/freshen up makeup and fix hair to go commit suicide by jumping in the ocean. All the family can do is know that Karma will visit Camilla. It will come with a vengeance. Along with the "reaping" You'll reap what you sew. This beautiful girl did not kill herself. 😢 Rest in Peace sweet girl. Her day will come and she'll feel it and know it.

@lexiemaep7930

Жыл бұрын

OMG that's what I think as well!!! She thought he was out of prison and she thought she was meeting him but Camilla killed her instead!

@priscillasimon7453

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I said. She probably was lured in there to be pushed down the cliff and disappear the phone. Also, any agent can recover deleted data. I suspect they didn't want to go an extra mile

@twangled08

Жыл бұрын

Yessss I feel this too

@marspar

Жыл бұрын

That is a very interesting theory they should look further into. I can’t believe it never crossed my mind, but it is very plausible. And Camila could have sent the text messages after doing it and then threw the phone off. Unfortunately any signs of a struggle on the cliff will be long gone by now, but there has to be SOME way to recover the deleted text messages.

@malope2310

Жыл бұрын

Damn! That's an angle I didn't think! Thought he was coming to finally meet her and then boom, Camilla. Nice thinking there 👌🏾

Great reporting ❤️🙏

About 10minutes in & I can just feel Braydon isn't real & Camilla set this up & is responsible for everything then I came to the comments & how was she not charged, its clear shes involved in many ways! Unbelievable!

Remember: if you don’t meet in person, it isn’t a relationship. Online dating is the ultimate oxymoron. You aren’t in a relationship; all you have is a pen pal or a texting buddy.

@IsaidwithaC

Жыл бұрын

"Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been online chatting to hot chicks all day"

@whitefreeman5798

Жыл бұрын

also dont date guys in prison or jail

@jamesball8519

Жыл бұрын

And if you're a man you have another bill becasue women do expect to be taken care of financially

@pibly7784

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. But so many people think that it is indeed a “relationship”.

@DJcyberslash

Жыл бұрын

If you can have a friend online, you can have a relationship partner online. A relationship requires emotional intimacy not just getting down in the sheets. You get more emotional intimacy in an online relationship. The real problem here is Renee chose some jail bird over MULTIPLE GOOD MEN in her life. DUMB!

Out of all the true crime stories, this hit me in my heart.. Camilla is the definition of evil and deserves life in prison as far as I’m concerned. Absolutely disgusting. She is directly responsible for Renae’s death. 100 million %. I’m crying about this case.

@braveinternetguy

6 ай бұрын

No one can make someone off themselves

@kendragaithercrum6010

5 ай бұрын

​@braveinternetguy I disagree. Camilla used emotional blackmail and caused so much distraught for Renae, not just for 1 relationship, BUT 3!! Her first boyfriend, the fake person along with her best friend. She robbed Renae of EVERYTHING and left her totally distraught and then stopped any and all help getting through to Renae leaving Renae totally alone and mentally unstable. Everything she knew was a total lie and then sent her family on a scavenger hunt knowing along what anguish Renae was going through. So don't be naive and victim blame. Renae's only issue was she loved and trusted an evil liar.

@nicolaalizeahmoss8637

4 ай бұрын

i cried to whole the documentary, its such a shame that a beautiful girl like Renae did suicide...I hope the best for her family

I don't believe for one second that Renee has thrown her phone in before she jumped.Camilla has the phone.. she has a lot to do with Renee's dead.(.maybe pushed her?)..Camilla is now married, I am sure she will use the same tactik with her children or husband , talking bad or lying to them about their friends or partners.

I’m very sorry for their loss truly tragic. Its a reminder to check in with our kids, friends anyone of us could be manipulated.

Camila knew what Rene’s insecurities were. I feel like Rene struggled with low self-worth and Camilla knew this. One thing I know is that NO ONE GETS AWAY WITH ANYTHING. Rest in peace Rene.