The Exact Moment KANG KILLED CAPTAIN AMERICA Steve Rogers Revealed!
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When Kang called Ant-Man "the one with the hammer," was he actually referring to a past history when he killed Captain America Steve Rogers? Head to squarespace.com/newrockstars to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code NEWROCKSTARS.
Next up on our "When Kang Killed" series, Erik Voss investigates the exact moment in MCU history when it would be likeliest for Kang to have killed Steve Rogers Captain America. How did Kang the Conquerer burn him out of time? WHY would Kang have wanted to kill Cap? Was there more to Cap's off-screen journey to return the Infinity Stones than we thought?
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Hell...that makes sense. He has antman armor and thor hammer
@NigelGaming-mt6oc
Жыл бұрын
But didn’t doctor strange say they only win one how will cap have went back more than once
@piyushgaming6707
Жыл бұрын
This video is cop i e d from Caske 7 7
@rezaakmal3688
Жыл бұрын
Not make sence, how captain america survive until old and return the shield to Falcon?
@Karl_Rizal
Жыл бұрын
Makes senseee actually OMGGG
@EE-1983det
Жыл бұрын
this was deep asf!!!
That would explain why in LOKI that one desk in the TVA offices was filled with Infinity Stones. They were confiscating all the stones from all the dead Steves.
@EEvisu
Жыл бұрын
Woah
@ddrizzyds1216
Жыл бұрын
@@EEvisu yeah, this actually made my jaw drop..
@r.i.petika829
Жыл бұрын
@@EEvisulove you EE
@randyangel9412
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit fr
@kyle3694
Жыл бұрын
That really wouldn’t explain it bc there was several Infinity stones in there, multiple of the same kinds.. So those were just a buncha stones from several different universes
Steve "I can do this all day" Kang Prime "I can do this, for all time, always..."
@ccelite3782
Жыл бұрын
You know what? Now I wanna see that in Avengers 5. If it's not in the movie I'm gonna blame you
@charlesturner3907
Жыл бұрын
@@ccelite3782 cause that line made me smile lololol, I need it too 😅
@RipUSA2020
Жыл бұрын
Brillant line. Hopefully they use it!
I still wish we saw like a 6 part Disney+ series of Captain America returning the stones to their correct time period. I don't think it's too late to do this and I would love to see it. One reason for not doing it could be the ability to leave it open ended so they can continue to work in whatever they want which might be what happens but still, is nice to think we could have got that
@MikeJones-gv5hs
Жыл бұрын
It might t happen..I been seeing rumors of nomad coming to..Google it
@drunkbrick
Жыл бұрын
Aparrantly we are getting this within Nomad.
@bogeyman898
Жыл бұрын
There'd a leak that nomad might be this
@ROLO31
Жыл бұрын
Nomad?
@drunkbrick
Жыл бұрын
@@ROLO31 secret mcu project being directed by Scarlet featuring Chris Evans.
I have the same thought, Kang and Variant Cap with time traveled suit that looks like antman suit and with a Mjolnir faced each other in a random timeline. Since Silvy killed the one who remains it created a lot of branches in the timelime.
@delmarfrazier2727
Жыл бұрын
You couldn’t have thought the same thing
@krypto6848
Жыл бұрын
@Souven Tudu yeah, but when Silvy killed one who remains the timeline branched into more. Maybe one of those branches cap went back to return the stones he faced the exiled one kang. The mcu main timeline cap didn't.
@danracimo2476
Жыл бұрын
It was meant to happen remember when Loki who used the tesaaract going against the main timeline, him dying and watching how his future played out….That was the incursion.
@leeturner7156
Жыл бұрын
@@danracimo2476loki 616 is alive though, he escaped from thanos and like he who remains said the tva only see what he wants them to.
I like how your “that’s impossible” moment was his returning the stone to Red Skull in Vormir, and not him returning a STONE where there should’ve been a CUBE lol or a stone where there should’ve been a CASING that attached to the scepter lol 😂 or even a STONE where there should’ve been a red cloudy angry sludge lol
@aryabhatt8896
Жыл бұрын
We can assume Banner made those with Stark resources.
@machomancake
Жыл бұрын
@@aryabhatt8896 well cap was only carrying a suitcase with him, that was shown to have the stones inside in specially-slotted spots, and nothing else
@AlohaJade808
Жыл бұрын
How many Pym particles did Cap have/leave with?
@pinaka5461
Жыл бұрын
Logically Returning the stones is not required, he can keep all the stones
@jladelaney1978
Жыл бұрын
@@machomancake used the reality stone to swap them all back to their original state. Simples
Wait… how could Kang kill Steve and TVA snatch Peggy in the same timeline if Kang doesn’t have access to the He-Who-Remains protected timeline? I was on board until that bit 😂
@JacobHJones
Жыл бұрын
It’s possibly a branch timeline where the conqueror is running the tva like the last seen of Loki. But then that doesn’t explain how it’s the same Kang as he was trapped in the quantum realm
@RipUSA2020
Жыл бұрын
@@JacobHJonesbecause Steve Roger's went into the Quantum Realm, where Kang is.
My question is How do you ask a person who you kill "have I killed you before?"🤔
@ghostnmoe6355
Жыл бұрын
It all becomes blurred
@micrhymer4062
Жыл бұрын
Because they all blur together, sheesh
@TheFinalTest
Жыл бұрын
Probably intimidation, but lang didn’t know who he was ig
@ozby11
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFinalTest *L A N G*
@TheFinalTest
Жыл бұрын
@@ozby11 ?
I never thought of it that way. Steve had the hammer on him traveling through time.
WHAT IF "the one with the hammer" refers to Cap in way that Kang is almost fearful of him... as in that's the one Avenger he wasn't able to beat.
@allanromano7085
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@danielburdisso1483
Жыл бұрын
Unlikely, Captain America is nowhere close to most powerful Avenger
@BiggieTreats
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Almost like he asked so he could kill who he thought was Rogers quickly as to avoid confrontation with him.
@baconlitheque
Жыл бұрын
I feel like if he were defeated by Cap, he'd be obsessed with him and would know more about him. Kang doesn't get beaten often, so that would be super notable for him
@empac8631
Ай бұрын
This is what I hope too. Not even that Steve beat him, but after giving him a good run for his money realized he’d die fighting Kang and knew he had to escape for a greater good. Cap isn’t the strongest avenger, and he isn’t the smartest, but he is one of the best tacticians and amazing at hand to hand which Kang would like the challenge as a fighter himself, and with his shield, hammer and Pym tech he gets an extra edge. I feel the way he’s saying it, in this theory, is like “are you the same avenger who held his ground but denied me the kill?”
It would be crazy if Kang actually explains this in The Kang Dynasty.
Kang is going to come back and become He Who Remains from Loki season 1
@DiamondWoodStudios
Жыл бұрын
@@fuckshan maybe being stuck in the quantum engine will not only heal and restore him to his purest form but make him the strongest form of Kang!
@MasterRyuuji
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@carlxd467
Жыл бұрын
You’re confusing yourself
@ddrizzyds1216
Жыл бұрын
@@fuckshan things change, i wonder where ravona went. probably gonna be the one who pulls him out of the quantum engine like hope did for scott. i doubt it’s the last time we see him at least
@danracimo2476
Жыл бұрын
“ I’m not as old as I look “
Wouldn’t Steve have had to of left the Hammer in Asgard when he injected the reality stone/Ether back into Jane Foster? Therefore he would not have had the hammer with him when he went and settled down with Peggy
@ghostnmoe6355
Жыл бұрын
Which order did he replace every thing in cause he had the time stone so it doesn't matter at long as they're replace when the was took
@eastknox865
Жыл бұрын
I dare you use common sense
@realjohnlove
Жыл бұрын
6:20 he explains it could have been one of the others in the multiverse who was returning the stones. The one in 616 was untouched.
@symbolofpeacetv1578
Жыл бұрын
No cos all he had to do is chuck the stone on the ground
@elmonzostark4030
Жыл бұрын
Maybe steve give up because its impossible to inject the reality stone back to jane so he decided to skip that and went straight to peggy 🤣
Why does nobody mention how the time stone and the mind stone that they get got from the 2012 timeline got pruned almost immediately after their return? This is the timeline that Loki gets taken from and pruned after he escapes with the tesseract. A movie of Steve Rogers returning the stones would be hilarious for this very reason
@pinaka5461
Жыл бұрын
Returning the stones is not necessary required
@seandevaney3271
Жыл бұрын
Remember when they first tested time travel with Clint? Or how Hulk only made a 5 second countdown when they sent Cap at the end? Since time operates differently they could have brought the stones back before the pruning
It took me a good 3 listens before I hopped on board, but now, just like every A7X, I can't get it out of my head!
Imagine if the Kang Dynasty starts with Kang murdering Steve in the quantum realm. A dark opening at it ends with a quiet Marvel Studios opening sequence.
How is there infinite time lines where Cap returned the stones while strange said that they only succeded to defeat Thanos once
@chrisred2733
Жыл бұрын
In strange 2, the illumanti killed thanos also. Strange aint see that in IW
@alcatraz6275
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisred2733 Maybe because that was a different time-line
That actually really does makes sense since it would make no sense for kang to mistake antman with thor. Like they share no similarities🤔🤨
What I really need to see is the timeline that would have been created in Endgame, where Cap Hails Hydra and they think he is on their side. That timeline's Cap got hit with the mind stone, which HAD to affect him in some way. Would it be an earlier Hydra bust, or would we have Captain Hydra? I'd love to see where they could go with that!
@ramirobarco9165
Жыл бұрын
That timeline was pruned un the beginning of Loki
@mfrey5643
Жыл бұрын
@@ramirobarco9165 Right, but now that he who remains has been killed, that scenario happened in an alternate universe. That timeline branched
@rhyse630
Жыл бұрын
@@mfrey5643 well at the end of loki season one there were infinite timelines branching so im guessing every scenario you can think of did infact happen
I was wondering what if (no pun intended) He Who Remains had excluded the Fantastic 4 from the MCU as a way to assure that a Nathaniel Richards wouldn't be born and grow up to become a Kang. That would be a way to explain why we haven't seen such an integral part of Marvel comics in these movies yet. Now that Sylvie screwed things up, the F4 could be out there somewhere and the possibility of bringing in Iron Lad is on the table.
@JacobHJones
Жыл бұрын
@Souven Tudu Why no? He’s saying NOW they can be out there because Kangs are indeed out there now…
The reason why he forgets and they all blend together is because he has killed DOZENS of variants of all the Avengers, some of them several times. It's not when he killed Steve Rogers, but how many Steve Rogerses he has killed, how many different Captain America variants he has killed, and how many of their entire timelines he wiped out. In the comics, one Kang The Conqueror tried to break Steve mentally by showing himself killing Steve in the past, then going back further to kill him again and over and over again until killing his mother to prevent his birth. That's the incomprehensible scope of Kang.
1 thing - no one said the stones had to be returned to their exact positions, just that they had to return to the timeline. he could have dropped all the stones off with the ancient one and called it a day.
@datoneguy436
Жыл бұрын
But that beats the purpose of what Bruce told the Anicent One about putting them back where they got it as if they never left. You leave them all with the Anicent One and you have duplicates exisiting at the same time
Sweet video! I’m hoping to see them soon. In the groups and all the apps downloaded. It was cloudy that night? Did you know it would clear or did you take a bet because the storm was so big?
Go back to going live Mon-Friday 🙏🏼
@majorkira395
Жыл бұрын
I noticed this. Is it live only other day now? What's the deal?
@MadamWilson
Жыл бұрын
Maybe bad weather is the cause
@AmyL._orcgirl
Жыл бұрын
They are going back to live next Monday since TLOU is done (they were doing live on Sunday, instead). They've said this more than once on the Breakroom. Wednesday is devoted to Wookie Leaks during the Mandalorian, so no afternoon live on Wednesdays until Mando is done.
@majorkira395
Жыл бұрын
@Amy L. Thanks. I knew about Mondays but not Wednesdays.
Old Cap could be a Skrull?
Perfect mini series of 9 episodes showing cap returning the stones
@pinaka5461
Жыл бұрын
It's not going to work because Logically returning the stones is not necessary required 🤣
@JacobHJones
Жыл бұрын
@@pinaka5461 how is it not? They were returned…
@pinaka5461
Жыл бұрын
@@JacobHJones No,All he needs to do is complete the loop,and he can keep all the stones
Never thought of that before... makes too much sense that it was a Cap variant and not a Thor variant...!
Not going to lie, I miss Steve being in the MCU
@patriciaalvareztostado8170
Жыл бұрын
I miss Steve, Tony and Nat... there would not be the same without them
@HolyFieldM5
Жыл бұрын
@@patriciaalvareztostado8170 it would there not the only avengers
@patriciaalvareztostado8170
Жыл бұрын
@@HolyFieldM5 I know they arent the only ones, and there will be other avengers, but would feel the same,
Thanks for getting that song stuck in my head again for the next week.
If he did kill cap then didn't Kang have access to the pim particles from the briefcase cap was carrying?
@Ilovesloths432
7 ай бұрын
The stones were in the briefcase his suit has pim particles I think
We want a different movie, showing how cap returned all stones and hammer....
"I can do this all day." "That's what the last Steve said." *kills him* That's cold as hell ngl
Hope to see the moments when Kang killed all of these variants in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.
Jumping off from this, we've seen Kang and Ms Minutes offer to change the timeline to give someone "back time" and give them what they want most. What Steve always wanted most was his Dance with Peggy. Is the MCU a world where Kang allowed that for Steve and that's the core of the sacred timeline?
But if the avengers only defeated Thanos only 1 time as discovered by Dr Strange then Steve would have only put back infinity stones in one timeline only?
Imagine in the season 2 of loki, kang wins an oscar for the best cinematic universe 🤣🤣
I love the ssb hammer & “GAME!” In this video lol 😂 genius 👏🏼
Kang probably held Steve captive until he get the pim particles or how/where to get them. Knowing Steve he would never give in, so he gets killed. On that timeline the stones never get returned, and the one we saw is a different but the same timeline.
Y’all do know taking Agent Carter either drastically changes SHEILD or stops it’s creation all together
I don't know why people talk about how cap return the stones, Logically Returning the stones is not necessary required.
Cap gave the hammer to spiderman. That's why spiderman's time was wrong and Kain can't remember lol
Nice video!
Interesting analysis 🙂👍
Imagine what happens in the Nomad series' end: Captain America has almost successfully returned back the stones, and only the time stone is left. But then Kang arrives to attack. He fights Kang but Kang splits him into two Timelines like the Ancient One to Strange. He kills him in one and then in another Steve successfully returns back. In the future we may see Ancient One return back because the time stone wasn't returned and is causing their spacetime to go in chaos or maybe even an incursion!
He couldn't return the mind stone since the TVA pruned the 2012 timeline in Loki season 1. This is confusing!
Him taking the hammer has to be a key detail to the line “are you the one with the hammer” marvel usually thinks these types of things ahead and if you think ab it, Cap knew what his intentions of returning the stones was and he knew he wasn’t gonna come back so he could live out his life with Peggy, so knowing this why did he take the hammer ? He had absolutely no reason to take it other than setting up for that question alone… I agree 100%
@GODsoN_216
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes perfect sense
@Cooleyhyh
Жыл бұрын
@@GODsoN_216the hammer didn’t belong to their timeline like the stones so he had to take it back 😕
Great vid
Your Kang voice is literally impeccable 😂
Yoooo that makes perfect sense, cap with the hammer traveling through the quantum realm trying to deliver the stones back had to have gone against KAng
I’ve thought of this since that trailer I thought you guys covered it
Elderly Steve is very vague and sus when replying on the bench, even his look over his shoulder is sus about HIM being the one that took em back...
That would be a pretty awesome intro scene/flashback in the upcoming Kang Dynasty film.
Honestly a Disney+ mini series seeing Capt. taking the stones back would be awesome each stone as an episode
We just need another “What-If” series
2:38 the fights for that hammer alone were crazy 😂
This is getting better and better 😮😮😮😮
Make a playlist of the exact moments category
I wasn’t aware that jumping time alone created an incursion, colliding universes instead of moving on your timeline. I understand that it would create multiple timelines and increases the likliehood of an incursion, but… I feel like you need to clarify that concept in a video.
Could you guys do a video about what Nexus events created universes like the Raimiverse, Webbverse, Sony Spiderman Universe, Fox X-men Universe, etc.?
This is an interesting analysis
I’m searching for the exact moment Kang killed his career. Damn Jonathan Majors can act.
Maybe after Steve saying “I can do this all day”, Kang would’ve responded something like “No. I’m the one with more time.”
@donaldwallberg4463
Жыл бұрын
Really poor try
When he showed Bucky and Ikarus I genuinely thought it was two Bucky’s.
In the comics, literally so many heroes and villains wielded the hammer. They could be just creating dialog much like your making dialog on this video and making a butt load of money
How, who Steve got this shield from?
I feel like they're eventually just gonna say "some characters can't effect the multiverse even if they gather all of the infinity stones, others effect if by stepping on the wrong leaf." or something to explain why Cap was able to go back in time and mess all logic up & its going to be really lazy writing because we're all expecting to see consequences for that & we haven't had resolution to that.
This is something I’ve been contemplating since endgame. Too many plot holes left unsolved. Incursion wars? Set as secret wars? The beginning of a zombie marvel film set after dr strange multiverse incursion, where Spidey could be at? If cap went back to where he turned himself with Loki spear, will he face himself again as hydra cap?
Nerd! That’s brilliant!! Make that movie 🍿
i think he was talking about another thor that has miljnoir.
He said that the one's he kissed blur together. But! He clearly remembered the one with the hammer, and he ask in a rather defeated tone...
I guess I don't understand . How could you kill Cap ? When returning one of the Infinity stones, that would lead to him not returning one of them . And create a branch reality , also affecting the sacred timeline.
@realjohnlove
Жыл бұрын
The TVA pruned those realities anyway plus they reset the 2012 Timeline. So how could they return the stone if they reset that timeline?
@Job5chap
Жыл бұрын
Cap didn't die he used the stones to escape he was just injured
@anthonychavarin4888
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what happened though is it not with him retuning the stones or not
@johnrich72
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonychavarin4888 it is implied he returned all of the stones at the end. But never confirmed . -- unless figey did in an interview.
@danielburdisso1483
Жыл бұрын
Bc the One Who Remains was killed and the TVA lost control over the sacred timeline, since that exists outside of time that death didn’t occur at any time, thus without that Kang pruning the realities there is no protection of the sacred timeline
I'm sure he probably killed a different variant cap from a different part of the multiverse before he got stuck. Not the same cap from a different timeline.
That would make sense cause on LOKI series season 1 those stones that was found in that drawer when he was captured by the TVA could've belonged to those variant STEVE ROGERS that failed to return the stones to other timelines
Cap took the stones to the ancient one first who used the time stone to reverse any changes that happened to each other stone. Like turning the space stone back into the cube , and the reality stone back into the ether and so on. Returning the soul stone is pretty easy, I think all you need to do is go and throw it back from that sacrificial clif which seems to have some magical properties of detecting who you love, so if Steve loves Peggy and he's the one who throws it back it will simply go back to where ever it's kept. Returning the reality stone is also easy once it's been turned back into liquid form by the ancient one with the time stone.
Would've been awesome to see you guys at Megacon out here in Orlando if y'all would've been able to attend!
Maybe the version of Captain America we saw at the end of Endgame was a Skrull. 😂
One thing was odd about the first season of Loki!They explained that magic is not working inside TVA, but what about phisical strenght?Loki should have wiped the floor with those TVA soldiers instead of getting hit all the time!
@Aimdoo
Жыл бұрын
For sure! Considering his bloodline.
@Aimdoo
Жыл бұрын
He's probably untrained on physical combat tho. And got reliant on magic.
I don't have a scorecard to keep track of all the possibilities there are now!!
I think Steve Rogers process of returning the stones changes all the timelines of the stones, so 12 variants?
Gimme the universe where kang kills the rogers musical cast lmaoo
this makes sense because in the comics doesnt kang tell the avengers that this war was caused by capt. america.
I have an idea for a story that you inspired, is there an email where I can send the link to the google doc?
Maybe the stones seen in the tva desk were the stone are all from cap variants
I feel like him saying “are you the one with the hammer” and “have I killed you before” is just a way for him to intimidate Scott further. He knew who antman was, just pretended he didn’t as a scare tactic.
Cap: "I can do this all day" Kang: "I can do this... forever"
What always bug me about Kane is that hes always stated he beat all the heroes in 1 on 1 combat, what he Actually did was manipulate situations and assassinated them or had somebody else do it for him.
Really like your vids haha prooo
It won't have been 616 Steve Rogers, it will more than likely be a variant, as they haven't resurrected cap yet!
The thought of him killing Captain America with the hammer only to get pieced up by Antman of all people doesn’t sit right with me 😂
What If:...Old Steve at the end of Endgame was one who never got the super soldier serum because he was told by Cap NOT to take it? Remember, the serum speeds up metabolism, but slows aging. Captain America wouldn't age, but Steve Rogers would.
In order for this to be possible Steve would still needed to have the hammer, so it would require putting the Reality Stone back last and Steve being attacked on Asgard before sending Moljiner back to Thor.
What if the fantastic 4 were meant to be here the whole time but kang “burnt them from time” and that’s why there movie is set in the past trying to reach current time?
Thx for answering my request
Kang beyond will be in kang destiny.Looking forward to seeing all the other variants of kang take down the avengers.
I think ennui drove Kang, but also subtle posturing.
I still have a beef with the "we have to return ALL the stones" rule while maintaining all the time outcomes as undisputable...
if Kang let him live out his days, he posed no threat.
I want to see these ideas in a marvel special presentation, live action!!
As much as I want to believe stuff like this, I honestly think the writing of most marvel films is so shoddy now that they just don't think this in depth at all. The screenwriters of endgame couldn't even agree on what happened to Cap.
If Kaine killed Steve Rogers then he would have had all the infinity stones unless he killed him after the stones were returned but before the hammer. Could he defeat Steve and the hammer?
@donaldwallberg4463
Жыл бұрын
No