If your "bad paper" has been one you've had in a long while, or you had it unintentionally stored somewhere where it might be a bit humid, then the sizing might've reactivated and evaporated over time. Not a lot of people know this (or at least, I didn't know until a month or two ago) but watercolour paper can "go bad" or expire. Much easily if you live somewhere humid/you place your paper somewhere humid. Teoh Yi Chie and Kimberly Crick Art both have video and blog posts about watercolour paper sizing going bad, and they were how I learned about it.

@aleahlrb

Жыл бұрын

Also, about the weird format of jelly gouache: the set was intended to be used by art school applicants in China. They have tests where they need to paint an image in a time limit, and the open cups allow for the students to get their paints out quickly and efficiently. They also usually paint large so the paints usually run out pretty quickly, and were not intended to stay in storage for too long.

@AlpayEfe

Жыл бұрын

Really?! That’s super interesting! I didn’t know that…

@rosefriedman2764

Жыл бұрын

That's actually super interesting. For certain kinds of watercolor paintings I do I prefer a paper with less sizing and I recently came across a super old pad I didn't like and fell in love with how the paper reacted, but when I repurchased it was totally different!

@Bones97000

Жыл бұрын

Huh. This is fascinating! Thanks for sharing some new knowledge!

@cazumbandoartmaddy1728

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, but fabriano paper is strange, I have their cotton paper samples: the natural color (off-white) goes bad easily and quicker, which I suspect it's Alpay's coice of paper. Their "extra white" (which is normal white by our standards but watercolor paper tends to be off-white) last longer, sizing does not disappear easily.

Tina from imawonder has a whole series where she recreates screen caps from her favourite films in her own style❤️

@the_orc_queen

Жыл бұрын

I came to say the same thing! Her screen cap videos are some of my favorites from her.

@winterillust

Жыл бұрын

i love watching tina's recreations!

@godzandheros

Жыл бұрын

Yessss especially the Batman one with Michelle's Catwoman * Chef Kiss *

Thank you for mentioning and helping the earthquake victims of Turkey and Syria. I live in Turkey and it was a devestating disaster for almost everyone in the country. The scale of the earthquake was insanely big. Hope everyone gets better soon.

Nathan Fowkes, one of my favourite artists, has preached about screen cap studies- more artists should do it! Also, Pan's Labyrinth is amazing.

@recoveringsoul755

Жыл бұрын

There's a miniature artist who made a garden for her dollhouse with a Pans Labyrinth theme

😁I'm glad you did a new gouache painting to show why it is being hyped over the recent history of art.

I had no idea that there could be such a thing as "bad batch" paper. My first thought was that you were painting on the back of the paper but if it came in a pad that would be difficult to accidentally do. And I agree, I don't know if @JessKarp or @slew could paint a movie still but I think it should be more of a thing and even I am inspired to try now :)

@olgahein4384

Жыл бұрын

Animal based seizing of watercolor paper can spoil under certain conditions, especially if it lies around for a while. Humidity is enough for that though.

@riverAmazonNZ

Жыл бұрын

It can happen and it’s really annoying. I’ve had paper that makes tiny blisters when it gets wet, and paper that separates into layers and peels. Both were bad batches. One manufacturer seemed to struggle for a whole year.

@Dansaerth

Жыл бұрын

When I started watercolor lessons, I was a bit suprised by the price of paper. My teacher only wants us to use Arches paper. Now that I am used to it, I tried some other cheaper papers, and they simply don't compare whatsoever. Arches paper is well worth the price, I never had problems. I tried Canson and Fabriano, there are things these brands simply can't take. Maybe try Arches ^^

thank you alpay, in this realy dark days your paintings make me smile and i forget the earthquake for a minute, i am working in healthcare and our nights and days are full of people coming from the affected areas. thank you for hearing us keep up the work :)

Note 1: This kind of video is what the community needs. I found Alpay as a result of Ten Hundred's initial art collaboration. I followed it from channel to channel and added a number of new channels to my subscription list that I watch consistently to this day. I watch every Alpay video in full, partially out of commitment, but more so out of my love for the content and the style of the art and of the delivery. This video highlighted several other artists at the end, and I've already added Slew, ADCArtAttack, and Siya Oum to my subscription list and have been watching some of their videos. I'm always looking for new content creators to follow, and this kind of video made that possible. I'll take a referral from a creator I respect over an algorithm any day. Thank you for helping broaden my scope!

This looks FANTASTIC!! Gouache is most definitely my favorite medium. It’s so versatile!! I agree, painting studies of movie scenes is an amazing way to learn. Last year I decided to paint 100 movie scenes as a little creative challenge, and it helped me improve so many different art skills! Highly recommend studies as a practice method (and also because it’s fun!!) 😊

@aspenisthebest

Жыл бұрын

Gouache is what got me into art. I always hated acrylic for obvious reasons, and I liked watercolor but it was so limited. When I found gouache, it was like I discovered heaven. It blows my mind that so many people don't even know it exists or what it does.

I’m so happy you’re still using the jelly gouache and making videos with it. As a newbie to traditional art and not wanting to spend money in professional materials, this is really motivating to see. I know it’s not the best gouache out there but to learn and grow you need to use some decent paints. Through watching your videos I finally brought my own set. So every time I see a new jelly gouache video from you, I get so excited ❤

Your comments about fan art at around 5:25 got me thinking and I realised that probably around 80-90% of classical art that we consider a masterpiece is either biblical fan art, or fan art of Roman/Greek myth, or classical literary works. These days we just use different things and now we have copyright lol

Maybe the sheets on your Montagsmodell-pad were glued in with the wrong side on top? You could try how the backside of one of those papers reacts to the paint. Other than that, yeah, maybe something went wrong in the process or with the coating.

I love the way your shot your videos it's as much a peace of art as what you creat in them

What I like about these gouache paints is that if I took some colour out on a palette and after painting it's still there uncontaminated I can simply scoop it and put it back! You can't do that with a tube.. Also I had tubes before and they dried out.. Maybe because they were bad quality I sldont know.. But I'd rather have dry jelly paint that needs saving than dry paint in a tube

This is the FIRST video I've seen that made me want to paint a screen cap! Thank you for the inspiration!

Great video as always 😃 there’s just something soothing about a cup of coffee and watching someone paint! 🎨

Ive heard that the jelly gouache paints were designed with students in Chinese art schools in mind. They are student grade , dont need to be light fast , and they paint so much that they go through a set in a week or two so them being open isnt a huge deal but the price makes it perfect for them to use them for practice. Obviously I dont know for sure, thats just what I heard.

@olgahein4384

Жыл бұрын

Gouache is initially not light fast, including Windsor & Newton and so on. Schmincke Horadam Gouache is an exception and prices accordingly (while the other 2-3 gouache lines from Schmincke are not lightfast as well), but that was developed specifically for making original artworks. And i heard the same about Jelly Gouache being specifically made for chinese art students, who use it on a daily basis for assignments. Not surprising, afterall it comes from China and all Jelly Gouache is made in China and shipped from there, even if the different names may suggest other asian countries origin. It was actually a chinese youtuber who mentioned it in his video about gouache, when Jelly Gouache became popular there, before his YT channel got abandoned (which must have happened around or shortly after the time the chinese government banned eastern media like KZread, Deviantart and all social media in the country for corrupting the chinese citizens. Many of my favorite artists back then were actually chinese and most disappeared over night without a word).

@hangten1904

Жыл бұрын

@@olgahein4384 It's not light fast depending on the pigment. Cadmium is a light fast pigment, are you suggesting it's not light fast in a gouache?

Excellent sketch. Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the jelly gouache. I keep seeing people post about it. Beautiful work.

@michaeldignelli2152

Жыл бұрын

Jared you should review it on your channel. I would like to know your thoughts as well

@JaredCullum

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldignelli2152 could be fun :)

Agree! I love painting film stills. The compositions and colors used in films can be inspiring and great to study. Thanks for sharing another great video!

I love sketching screen-captured movie scenes! You’ve done a beautiful job with this scene…the lighting and skin tone on the girl, especially, was excellently recreated. I agree that screen-capture is a fine way to practice beautifully-staged scenes dreamed by a director, and professionally-lit with a cinematographer’s and lighting director’s skill, as well as, the many other skilled professionals involved in making films.

WOW!! really neat how you made it through this time! 🤩

I think the main reason why the paint is in cups is so that you can more easily see all the colors you have to work with, like with some paint the color on the tubes is a little different than the actual paint and this remedies that, just a small quality of life type thing.

Screen grabs are totally a thing. I do it all the time. It's a great learning tool.

See, jelly gouache isn't so bad. Especially with the right brushes. LOL. Stunning painting and beautifully detailed. HIMI does make different sets and Amazon finally got in a refill of white HIMI gouache that I bought. I'm not sure I need a 56 paint collection that weighs a ton though. If you hate mixing, HIMI has some great color combinations. Again, beautiful painting.

I'm also surprised you made such beautiful painting with himi Gouache which most Gouache artist don't like. Usually all like Windsor and Newton Gouache

I've been bing watching your videos lately and it's only right now that it struck me. The blend of music and visuals is what gets me. Great video, amazing painting. Can't wait for another one ;)

That's a really fun idea, I might do just that. Thanks for the video!

Maybe the sizing went bad in the paper, that could cause the issues you had. The painting still turned out amazing of course. I also paint screen grabs from movies and tv shows, I agree it’s a great way to learn colour values and drawing something you love keeps you interested and good on you for doing what you can to help Turkey and Syria, you’re a real one 😊

I've been really scared to touch my gouache paints since their pigments stresses me out, but this video just inspired and motivated me to use it again. I really liked the process and the outcome!

You are a TRUE modern day master! Grateful to absorb some of your knowledge 🙏🏻

Truly enjoyed from start to finish, you never fail to master this satisfying and as well educational side to explain tools/mediums you are using. I'm a fan of your painting techniques.

I'm glad that you've been posting these Gouache videos because I've been getting into goache and not having a lot of resources to learn from. Some youtubers have a too acrylic-paint style, James Gurney draw landscapes so I've not had anyone to learn how to draw dramatic scenes from. The reason why you don't get the format is because of your personality, Alpay. For me I like having all my options laid out in front of me, I spray my set every now and then while I paint, and I'm completely content with cross-contaminating all of my paints, yes even the white. For that I have a seperate 200ml bag of himi white paint that I bought in advance (my paintings are very bright). I don't put the paint onto the palatte seperately, I just go straight into mixing them. But yeah I just don't care, and that's why I like the format so much. When I'm painting I want easy access and I don't mind making a mess, also big jellies get dried out slower than little dollops of paint, I don't have to rewet them and accidentally put in too much water. You prefer to have more control within your painting process, and tube paints not only provide cleanliness, you also only need to get the paints that you need for the color pallete. Anyway yeah, that's the appeal of this set. You could also use color pencills on top of the goache to give it hightlights and vibrancy. Edit: the gouache can mold in humid weather I take back everythinggg

Alpay, here out we need more of these videos where u paint with gouache !!! We love them !!!

Love the horn ridge details .. light on dark and vs vs

Beautiful painting! This movie is so visually stunning, you really did it justice!

Wunderschönes Bild! Du hast mich sehr inspiriert diese Farben auszuprobieren!

Gouache I use as a preliminary study before oil painting...but seeing few artists like you ,Sarah burns and Jess Chung...I believe now this is a real respectable excellent medium if we know how to use it

This looks fantastic!

That’s wonderful ✨✨✨

You are very Talented! Never stop! 👌🏻

Turned out great!

I can't remember where I saw the tip, but before I put my HIMI jelly gouache away last time, I gave them a light spray of water that had a small percentage of isopropyl alcohol to try to prevent them going mouldy. Also, I wrapped each individual pot in GLAD press'n seal wrap (a little like cling film, but tougher, reusable and *very* sticky!) - it's hard to find outside the US, but Amazon do carry it. When I last tried them, I wondered what I should do to avoid cross contaminating them, so I'm reassured that my plan to use a clean palette knife to take a little out onto a separate palette is probably the best approach, as that's what you've done, too. Great work, and a great choice of film!

@cazkiwinz4300

4 күн бұрын

I put the middle lid on then put the whole thing in a big snap lock bag THEN click the top lid on…. I’ve never used water or glycerine on my jelly gouache and even 2.5 years later, they’re still pretty moist AND not mouldy in the slightest

@Jess Karp you need to make a screencap painting. Alpay has thrown down the gauntlet.

You are an amazing artist. That was outstanding!!

I really enjoy paintings of something from another medium, a marriage of story and art which I love !

I'll have to try this out! I've always loved drawing movies shot composition, just never thought about painting them

I've had bad batches of watercolor paper. I'd wondered if it hadn't been stored properly, or transported safely. I'm glad it's a real thing and it wasn't just me.

I love gouache. I had the same issue with some older watercolour paper. I think certain sizing can deteriorate over time. So yes, even watercolour paper has a use by date 🌻

Love Pan's Labyrinth! And Love the painting. Just might try doing the screen grab art.

Great show of making great art with any materials, fantastic editing as always 😊 pans labyrinth is a favorite of mine what a treat

Pretty cool, thanks 🫧

Holbein sells sizing so you can save the rest of the pages ❤ excellent choice of subject and beautiful painting

@lucydayLucida

Жыл бұрын

Or make your own. It's just dissolved gelatin. Barely costs anything to make.

❤❤❤❤❤ no words needed.

Awesome video! I love gouache. I think every digital artist should learn it. It translates well.

Excellent work

Big inspiration bro. Go crazy🎨

Movie screen caps are the main thing I draw/paint. I love the feeling I felt during a certain scene and I want to embed it forever in my memory thro art. It is the best sensation in the whole world for me.

They're not my usual cup of tea, but I'm finding great enjoyment in the movies that you're bringing to my attention. I also love that you're donating the proceeds to a current world need, so that your supporters can help those in need as well as purchasing from a favorite artist.

This is really cool! It's nice to see a different painting medium being used. I've been painting with oil for a few years and it definitely gets frustrating at points when the colors mix in undesirable ways, and sometimes it feels too much of the same thing. I got some gauche paints from a good friend so I definitely want to give it another go! This is a simply splendid vid👌Thanks for sharing!

love it!

Hello, you captured the sceen so great and your painting turnd out very beautiful.

Fan art is my favorite kind of art to do, I don’t know why but I’ve always been in love it it

“Became one with nature again” 😂. THIS is beautiful Mr Efe based on an amazing movie.

amazing!

The universe saw me struggling with gouache and so they gave me this beautiful video. Thank you Alpay Efe :)

this has been an actual assignment in a few classes at my art school. In digital illustration class and storyboard class. (btw paper has a front and a back. especially art papers like kinds made for watercolor. One side will have a coating while the other side doesn't. It could be possible you're using the wrong side.)

Thank you so much for your support,great video as always

Me encanta ver tus vídeos ❤️✨️✌️

OMFG YES, MY FAVORITE MOVVIIIEEE

Your painting is out of this world gorgeous but your commentary is amazing, lol. Love your work

This is beautiful=)

Your help is very valuable, thank you very much ❤️🇹🇷

Beautiful master copy. Yes, good movies are the new masters. The attention to lighting, costumes, limited colour range, drawing the view to the important part, capturing a moment of culture and society values, what they include in the shot and more importantly, what they leave out. They learnt all that from painting. Why not use them to learn painting? Thanks for the enjoyable video.

The painting is fabulous. I love the scene and lighting! I used to make screenshots of Netflix films, but some how this doesn't work anymore. And to be honest I never did paint them. You make me reconsider. I love lighting in movies. And you can always just make a picture of your computer screen...:)Thank you for the wonderful idea to donate money by selling your art. It is nice to be able to do something.

Watercolor paper might be the sizing which is usually some type of gelatin or starch that can break down over time making the paper more absorbent. Try using a watercolor ground or actual sizing to see if it fixes the problem.

@lucydayLucida

Жыл бұрын

This works but you need to rub off the spoiled sizing first or it will pill up and ruin any attempt to resize or paint over it.

CalArts students: “Thinning gouache? Use water? Blending? What?”

My only complain about Gouache is difficult in layering and also blending! Otherwise it's a beautiful medium.

I couldn't agree more james is like is like something i can't describe 😂

I know that sometimes bad stocking can ruin watercolor paper. Because watercolor paper can absorb ambiant humidity and it will bind with the coating making it less effective. It happened to me with paper pads I kept for too long in my house. It also happened to me in a fairly new Hanhemule sketckbook: most of the paper was fine but there was one page where the coating had gone really weird and it was not absorbing the paint properly, instead it was sitting on top of the paper and making a weird "speckled" effect. I guess maybe the stocking of the paper in the warehouse (before binding the pages together) went wrong? Who knows. Not sure it is the same problem but it's a hypothesis I guess.

You’ve inspired me once again, this time I have to go buy a new medium.

I really like your videos and art, it’s very inspiring. I see that mainly you use oils and gouaches, I wonder if you use also acrylics? I’m trying to find some more advice about that medium.

@Alpayefe1-ON-TE.LEGRAM

Жыл бұрын

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more gouache and film inspired art please

I am actually planning to pick up brush and paints again and quite scared I might screw the gouache painting I am planning to do, yet because of your new update, it gave me courage to push forward. Thank you!

Wonderfull painting 👏👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌👌🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

oh man i love and appreciate this video and the art for this! I admire you giving these a second chance, Himi gouache is hard to work with, but I think that working with it in a *slightly* different way than with any typical gouache will yield better results with less struggle. Da Vinci gouache, for example, is described by some people as.. smooth like oil? And although it isn't oil paint whatsoever, that gouache behaves quite differently than other gouache brands. Heather Ihn Martin actually recommended da Vinci gouache for oil painters wanting to start gouache 🤠

I subscribed and I’m commenting just because this turned out to be Pans Labyrinth themed. Bless you good sir. 🖤

Bad Alpay! Now I wanna get into gouache and I am still in the process of figuring out water color!! I'm trying to focus here!! Seriously though. Looks amazing!!

Indeed, it seems a most intriguing and imaginative undertaking, this revisiting of the famous and viral jelly gouache paints, in order to produce a realistic movie scene. The prospect of discovering the unique properties of these paints, and how they may be exploited to produce stunning and lifelike artwork, fills one with anticipation. As with any artistic pursuit, the realization of the true potential of the medium demands both experimentation and skill, and it is truly admirable to see artists pushing the boundaries of what is possible with innovative and fresh materials. It shall be most captivating to observe the final outcome and to witness the application of the jelly gouache paints in the production of a truly authentic movie scene. One cannot help but feel that this endeavor will serve as an inspiration to other artists seeking to explore novel and ingenious techniques and materials in their own artistic endeavors. You and your art is truly inspiring, Thank YOU, Alpay!!

I love to paint screen caps .. never thought of making a video of them tho I only post the final result on IG Maybe I’ll add it to video ideas to make in the future 🙏🏼❤️ thanks for the inspo

Vry nice, I like it so much n actually I like to draw n paint this kind of work with gouache colour

The problem with the paper is the sizing, it's made with somw kind of jelly (jaja ironic) and it gets bad with time or humidity, you can check a video from Teoh about it.

i like it when you show us that you "actually" use a hairdryer. some other youtubers will definitely cut out that part. 😂

i found my new favorite youtube artist

The thing about gouache that I really struggle with is the way it sometimes doesn’t look like how it will look when it’s dry if that makes sense

This video convinced me to finally get a set of these to try. We'll see if I'm thanking you or cursing you once they arrive, lol.

Es vuestra última oportunidad 🥳 Excelente.

Hi I love your videos they always inspire and help me get over art block but how do you get your references from films? I love the idea of paint scenes from movies but I can never find the one I wanted.

I have absolutely no control over this comment section…

@HajraMeeks

Жыл бұрын

Alpay, I don't know if you've mentioned this elsewhere on your other social media, but in case you haven't, it would be lovely if you mentioned the massive earthquake in Turkey and directed folks to donate aid to there. I know this is an art channel, but you're Turkish (I have some Turkish ancestry as well) and have a big channel, and more eyes on any worthy charity always helps. Thanks, kardeş.

@juliettewilliams7400

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think you could do a painting from my fav movie speed racer😤👀

@AlpayEfe

Жыл бұрын

@@juliettewilliams7400 🤣🤣🤣 touché

@sagarmunjal

Жыл бұрын

alpey you are one of my most revered artist. i love listening to you.

Hey! This is gorgeous! I am glad you were able to work around the cursed palette, though it sounds like it tried its best to thwart you! I have heard some talk in various forums about sizing issues with batches of watercolor paper recently. Many different brands, and people speculate it could have something to do with the pandemic and shortages where they have had to change their formulas up? I have also heard that some sizing can go bad if the paper has been sitting around for some time? 🤷 But I don't know anything for certain.

الأدوات لا تصنع الفنان🎉 مذهل👍🏻💫