Rip John meadows

@johngaleotta7976

Жыл бұрын

He was the best!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Miss him!

@banglevision8207

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know he spent some time at Westside

@kasper52173

Жыл бұрын

@@coacheugeneteo 👍🏾

@ryankirby

Жыл бұрын

Rip to the Legend

Mentzer system has done more for me than the previous 30 years combined. Training to failure works but most aren't prepared to do it.

@ooooa9046

Жыл бұрын

Agreed !! Besides the incredible physical benefits, it provided you for more time to do other hobbies, spend time with family , etc. and not make working out your life. There’s more to life folks.

@jameshill6653

Жыл бұрын

I've had to take time away from a sport due to injury. After rehabbing for 12 weeks I still need to let time do it's thing. I'm hitting the muscle groups I can using the Heavg Duty style and am blown away by the results. It's regrettable that it took till my mid 30s to learn the importance of rest but better late than never 😂.

@simonemicucci9222

Жыл бұрын

That's because well designed research agree with hypertrofy driven by failure. Heavy duty lack only in volume, if you add it you will have big gains, like Yates

@robertrichard2322

Жыл бұрын

@@simonemicucci9222 If you listen to Mentzer talk about it he advocates that it is enough volume. Where people go wrong is not resting 4 days between workouts because they want to add "volume" if you are truly going all out you need that rest time with no heavy stimulus to recover fully so you can continue going all out every work out

@simonemicucci9222

Жыл бұрын

@@robertrichard2322 on theory, on practice you can be really more frequent, on the single session I can agree, on the week not

Mentzer advocated 3 to up to 10+ days between workouts depending on their recovery ability. Not between muscle groups but between workouts. His final routine involved 2 exercises per session. I think his idea is not just for beginners but advanced lifters but most importantly for those that realise they want to reach their genetic potential realistically and not focused solely on competitive levels of strength sports.

@8G00SE8

Жыл бұрын

His routine is for novice and intermediate lifters, like Dorian Yates.

@kamik1ng

Жыл бұрын

@@8G00SE8 hahahaha and also Tom Platz

@mr.broski2427

11 ай бұрын

@@8G00SE8 bro I hate the term "novice", can people really not watch their form while they workout? mfs acting like it take 6 months to get perfect form ffs.

@papaspaulding

9 ай бұрын

@@mr.broski2427 it's not about form or knowledge, its about how the body reacts to the stimulus and adapts over time. ie a novice will grow from pretty much most things as within that first year all stimuls on the muscle is new stress that the muscle is forced to adapt to, but at the same time a novice lifter is still unaware of certain things they are yet to feel and learn via trial and error . compared to someone who has been lifting decades or has a certain size to their muscles which requires more stimulation in order to force it to grow. this is where an advanced lifter has usually found what works for them and tweeking things in minor details to get optimal results which wouldn't have worked as a novice. different approaches will work better at different times over the years

So much to talk about here for Mentzer. He had 3 main training methods throughout his career. And it seems people forget that whenever they talk about his methods. 1st was when he first started getting his competitive wins including the perfect score, which was a 4 day split (chest tris legs, and shoulders back and bis) he completed this 3-4 days a week. This was his highest volume training with sets up to 8-12 sets a week for bigger muscles, chest was actually the highest 24 sets!! However note that all these sets were when he was bigger on supersets and cycles of exercises, so it was a bit of a race style workout not a ton of rest. 2nd was his 3 day split 1x per week workout which is when the volume dropped dramatically (even tho he was already doing less than most of his contemporaries at the time, fun fact Arnold admitted high intensity worked because he tried it but he said it wasn’t for him) . The volume was closer to 2-4sets per muscle group done to failure. At this point he had really understood and drove the point home that training to failure creates a almost astronomical deficit or hole in your recovery that needs to be listened to. To clarify he stated that you take 2 days off in between workouts. So workouts will flow over to the next week but in a 7 day period they will be complete. 3rd was his most radical which was the 1 workout every 4-5 days, 4 workouts in total covering the whole body one time each in those 4 workouts. So you wouldn’t hit the same muscles for almost 2 weeks. Believe it or not Jeff Alberts did a version of this and it was his best off-season, also got his strongest doing this, he quoted me he was only squatting 2 times a month, as a natural and got up to a 475 squat and 225 ohp something like that. So, there’s that.

@brianmjacobsen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! Much appreciated overview and insight to the development !

@Twitch-vv6en

11 ай бұрын

So difficult to take more than 2 days off!

@Tijiel

11 ай бұрын

True, but also the first one could be done IF you are enhanced. Other two is more for natural lifters since recovery time is longer

@prasantpandey4057

10 ай бұрын

Hello. May I please get a workout plan with the 3rd type in mind. I want to get stronger.

@Twitch-vv6en

10 ай бұрын

@@Tijiel I say it’s all genetics based on recovery. I’m natural but have made progress in every exercise for 2 weeks in a row. Only taking off 2 days

Anybody taking lessons from John Meadows is on the right path. When I switched from simply warming up to doing his pre-pumps - especially leg curls before squats - it really changed things for me. His methods weren’t always intuitive, but they make a lot of sense when you stop to think about them, and they work really well.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@BrofUJu

Жыл бұрын

The hamstrings before squats and quads tip is so legit for sure

@minormist

Жыл бұрын

@@BrofUJu The relatively quick gains I saw in my hamstrings off that one change were ridiculous.

@mehjesty6895

Жыл бұрын

hi which video did he mention this on?

@dannyalquicira3659

Жыл бұрын

Mentzers program also had pre pumps , like the pec flys before incline and extension before squats as well 💯

Great video! However you barely mentioned how Mike Mentzer's Heavy Duty emphasises rest which is a HUGE part of it! At least 3-4 days between workouts and some times even a week, so you're fully recovered before you go to the gym again and work on another body part. You read that right, one work out a week to maximise recovery because if you do heavy duty properly you'll need the time off to fully recover! He was saying that the traditional 5/6 day splits were too much volume and unnecessary, nay sayers would say it was BS, but it's hard to argue with Mentzer using it to get the first ever perfect score at Mr Universe, and winning Mr Olympia. Dorian Yates took his system further to win Six Mr Olympia titles. The method was so controversial, that Arnie came out of retirement to beat him at Mr Olympia to prove a point as (twice a day, 6 days a week better than once every 4-7 days), but people say Arnie's win was political as he was in terrible shape by his standards and Mentzer was robbed. Mentzer was disillusioned and retired from bodybuilding feeling the result was fixed (as did many others), but still went to teach Heavy Duty to bodybuilders such as 6X mr Olympia winner Dorian Yates.

@jdawgb7642

Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you stated. Great comment.

@xxfivebloomxx2376

Жыл бұрын

I personally think that it makes sense due to how hard he trained but most people can’t train that hard like he literally took METH to work harder

@williamburch4809

Жыл бұрын

I agree I think Mike Mentzer should have won the 1989 mr Olympia instead of arnold.

@dustinlee5403

Жыл бұрын

Dorian didn’t take 4-6 days of rest in between workouts like mentzer though. He did two on one off repeat. And was bigger and better than mentzer

@kyozaki9838

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinlee5403 he took 3 off sometimes, like 4 days on then 3 off. But yeah he did better than Mentzer, but had his success when Mentzer showing him the importance of rest days, rather than the 6 days a week 2 a days Arnie was doing for example.

You’re one of the very best fitness influencers…no drama, gossip, lifestyle filler, douche bag antics, or excessive rambling to make a longer video, just quality information and innovation.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

I have learned alot from John, still do. It's amazing you got to spend so much time with him and you are one of the people that can still spread his knowledge and trainings. But please don't take away that I have learned a whole lot from you as well. I enjoy your approach in this fitness industry. Thank you

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

@amandacourteaux4587

Жыл бұрын

@@coacheugeneteo you are welcome 😊

@tom-ju6y

Жыл бұрын

@@coacheugeneteo Hi Eugene, 1. Is your app for beginners? 2. Is your app and your plans for naturals, non enhanced lifter? 3. with your app, can I learn how to effectively plan my own training programs. How do I create workouts that help me reach my goal, which is building muscle mass. I don´t look for a cutting edge program or a pre written program. I don’t want a „ready to wear“ program. I don´t want the fish, I want to learn how to fish. Thank you

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

@@tom-ju6y yep it's all taken care of in there with plenty of lectures on programmming too. We're building a full custom workout builder for members tooo

This is an easy 11/10 video - so few people on fitness youtube are willing to charitably summarize other training philosophies - let alone do so succinctly and with really amazing footage of the old greats training. Wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 I appreciate it

Dorian Yates HIT and Mike Mentzer Heavy Duty training is the best for intermediate, beginners and most importantly advanced lifters

Mike Mentzer on the Nautilus is just so iconic.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

I LOVED John Meadows. He was my KZread fitness dad. To this day I implement many training methods in my workouts that I learned from him, and I still go back and watch his videos for inspiration for exercise selection when I’m structuring a workout plan. I find similar comfort, training variety, and inspiration from you Eugene, so I appreciate what you do here very much.

Big respect to Job Meadows, a great man and a great coach

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Great video as always Coach! The John "Mountain Dog" Meadows part really tugged at the heart strings!

Heavy duty Mike Mentzer style training >

Rest in peace meadows, much love for him and his family, his training always made sense and i still implement some of his teaching like the leg curls at the start of leg day 😞

Been waiting for a video like this!! Love your channel. John was the best

One of many great things about you is that you keep such an open mind regarding all programming and training styles. There is no single best training style or program out there. All can be useful tools depending on our current situation. Thank for continuing to educate us on the full spectrum of muscle building!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Love your content Teo and the way you still show so much love and respect to your late friend. Such an incredible man who as well as you have shaped the way I see weightlifting, longevity and having fun

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

What an amazing video, Eugene. Thank you for all you do 💙

Unreal video this. Super simplified and clear with everything🙌🏼

Great video Eugene. Love that you included John meadows his workouts are brutal. Love the Ganbaru app and am doing powerbuilding. I like how you explained how some of your programs came about.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it!

Clear and concise as always. You have a great presentation style, sounding very knowledgeable while still coming across as friendly and accessible. I've been lifting on and off for about 18 years and I'm still learning so, so much. Keep it up!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

My new Ganbaru lifting straps arrived yesterday! Great timing and great video!

I’ve tried to find a video like this for so long! This was the perfect comparison

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!!

i found this very informative. ive been in the gym 2 years now and im just NOW starting to take it more serious and tryna find some structure to my workouts. this is super helpful. thanks

Thanks so much Eugene for talking about Mike Menzter etc so quickly after I commented on your last vid!

I've become a big fan of rest pause training as I've gotten older. It's especially useful for calisthenic movements like dips and pullups where you can easily squeeze in a few extra reps after a short break. It allows you to hit failure without the pressure of doing it all in one go.

@DaveO0808

Жыл бұрын

yes it works around the joint problems, too!

This video was even more valuable and well spoken than your previous ones (which is to say!)

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

This guy has a great voice, very calming, I could listen all day.

The mentzer method is the best imo, especially since it gives the most free time out of any method, very good for the average person. It treats strength training like a background task rather than a large dedicated task

61, recently retired and trying to get back in shape. Changing things up a bit and going with Mentzer/Yates high intensity training. Useful for beginners ?….and 6 time Mr Olympia winners !!! Watching Mentzer and yates youtube videos has really helped !

perfect vid! i hope you had fun making it!!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

I did! Thank you! 🙏

Eugene amazing content as ever and wonderfullly said about John Meadows the legends will be looking down smiling 💪🏻🙏🏻

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

When studying all these different programming types for both bodybuilding and powerlifting, I began to appreciate John Meadows more each time. John always found a way to incorporate so many different philosophies into his own training based on what worked for him. He had "low" volume protocols that was similar to Dorian Yates, Mike Mentzer, and DogCrapp to higher volume like Arnold, Gironda, and Jay Cutler. Like you said in the video, you can even see the influences from powerlifting such as Westside and Dave Tate. Based on my own experimentation, I even learned how well Mike Tuchscherer's Emerging Strategies could blend with Mountain Dog training. He was always the best example on always experimenting and incorporating what works.

This is an amazing video summing up a lot of the great names training philosophies they had or ideas

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Mountain dog has totally influenced how I structure my programs. ❤️💪

So much knowledge and experience in 12 minutes, amazing stuff

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

For the algorithm people need to hear this. Awesome vid man

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

I utilize Heavy Duty and Cluster Sets :) They are wonderful and have helped upped my PRs and overall work capacity

Bro I was just thinking about what is the best training style in this sense. Thank you for the great timing

One of my favorite videos Coach Eugene every did!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Best video! You rock man legend

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

John should be shown to young people. His soft energy and calmness, perfectly balanced with being an absolute savage.... Balance, open-mindedness, friendliness, passion, toughness

This was great! Really informative.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

I NEEDED THIS TODAY 😭♥️

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Im currently in love with the HIT for bodybuilding: basically doing one Top set with 6-10 and one Backoff set with 10-16 reps (rep range varies bc of compound or isolation exercise lower reps on compounds and higher reps on isolations). Doing a decent amount of warmup sets especially on compound exercises. Last warmup set is pretty close to top set weight but doing only about half the reps you are aiming for (maybe a little less on compounds and maybe more on isolations). Doing this you are really warm and ready to push yourself to the limit but not exhausting. I love this method because: 1. you train really hard, which is the most fun, but don’t overtrain 2. low volume allows you doing pretty long rest times while still keeping the workouts relatively short 3. you can do quite a lot of exercises because you are only doing two working sets for each 4. you train to or extremely close to failure in a lower and higher rep range Downside: 1. not good for building strength on the big 3 bc you want to do exercises where you can safely push yourself to failure 2. not good for beginners because you need close to perfect movement patterns and good mind muscle connection, while still pushing yourself safely to failure and doing so effectively

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@michw7479

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@markfox3083

Жыл бұрын

Back off set would be counterproductive

@jakobwing9660

Жыл бұрын

@@markfox3083 how? I'd say in most cases my estimated 1Rm is actually higher on the back off set when I do higher reps. Please elaborate.

@theguy4615

Жыл бұрын

Back off is unnecessary. If you're going to true failure with enough intensity you won't be able to do another set. Sounds more like a pyramid workout.

man I wish 😪 John the legend 🙌 MEADOWS was still here with us all gosh darnit! we lost such a nice person and a great coach and father and loving husband and family member ❤ RIP BIG DOG!! glad your still keeping his name alive out here Eugene !! keep it up love all your content !

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Mentzer and Meadows are my go to’s for bodybuilding training

As someone who is transitioning from powerlifting to bodybuilding style training , I Really enjoyed this .

Another great video!

I need this, lifting should be a part of your life not a lifestyle. This saying been wrap around my head lately, i spend tons of hour on the gym and still seeking for a good and balance fitness program. Bless u Mr Teo

You! and, John meadows R.I.P Are my go to guys. Helped me tons over the years thank you 🙏

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Hi! I would love for you to analyse the steploading system and its pros and cons for muscle building. Keep up the excellent quality!

Nice history lesson. Really interesting to realise the roots of some of the modern ideas

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Thank you for this video Eugene 🤗🤗

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

😄🙏

Wow great job on this video!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Much appreciated

Great video. Thank you.

I'm so grateful I randomly stumbled across your channel, and consequently your app a couple years ago and was smart enough to recognize a good thing when I saw it. Ganbaru has completely changed my workout game. I STILL look forward to every workout! Who can say that 2 years into using the same workout app?

Fantastic video!

nice work bro❤

Best programming ever.. best community ever. I signed up in jan for yearly membership and was hooked then went lifetime.. you won't regret joining.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Awesome video❤️

Great video! Great summary of these schools of thought. Are there any reading materials that you recommend to learn more about these training methods?

Big fan of your content 💪

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Thank you your videos, and thank you for all the credit given to John Meadows. He was incredible, humble, I will never forget he was one of my 1st IG followers a few yrs back i didn't even have 50 and he followed me 😪😔🙏🏼 and never unfollowe like many influences do, or people. He was truly a man of God, always put his family 1st, I learned so much from him. And you have the same humble spirit, thank you bcs I have learned so much from you too. God bless 🙏

Thanks for the video coach

Great video. Enjoyed the content, but it made me wonder how some of these training methods should differ for natural versus enhanced athletes especially if there’s additional recovery time needed to not over stress the body. Especially true if you consider how hard John Meadows trained. He was truly a beast who inspired many and will always be remembered.

Thank you again!

Would be good if you reviewed RP's training approaches (e.g. their Physique Templates) now that you've made some videos with them. Seems their approach is more about gradually ramping volume by adding sets and focusing on RIR rather than poundages, and using the pump and cumulative fatigue to gauge whether or not to increase volume.

Great information!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

You always have valuable content..🤟🔥

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Great vídeo, I’d dig more information about john and his training, as well as heavy duty training and variations and further information on clusters

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Would love to hear your thoughts on Dante Trudel’s DC training. Probably similar to Mentzer style HIT, but the frequent use of rest pause and stretches.

So much love for meadows, learned so much from him. RIP.

I am on mission to do the 41ish training programs by Meadows. I love them. The older ones are a bit bro scientific and volume based in the traditional way, but still fun to do.

I love HIT training. I only train 2 x week. India is upper body and the other is lower body with 2-4 sets per muscle each worked 1 x week

The cluster sets were also used by mike mentzer later on. He called it rest pause

This is such a great breakdown for noobs like me. Keep em coming Eugene! P.S. what are your thoughts on techniques like FST7 (Hanny Rambod) and DTP (Kris Gethin)? Are they just another spin on the Gironda techniques?

Been using ganbaru app for almost year now, with my friend.. tried Powerbuild, full body, half body, push pull legs 2.0, Got to say powerbuild was our favorite, it introduced so many cool concepts to us, like cluster sets, wave loading, adding pauses.. etc Pushed us to a completely new level! Been training for a few years before but never like this! Every single program we tried was a banger in their own way and felt like a completely new style of training, And we can’t wait to get to the gym to see how you plan on torturing us today haha Honestly im so glad you incorporate so many concepts into these workouts so intelligently i’ve learned more about my body and working out in this short period than i had before in my entire training. Thank you Eugene.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thank you! 🙏

@tatarcavalry2342

Жыл бұрын

Your profile pic got my attention with the name man you look pretty Turkish must be from Hungary greetings from Turkey

Eugene you are an awesome coach and you truly understand fitness at a level I wish all coaches did .. love your channel. Been watching you since you barely had any subscribers and I had no doubt your channel would blow up

Love the breakdown mate. Very insightful. I don't like the term 'junk volume'. Everyone's body respond differently to training. For me I see the greatest hypertrophy from higher reps and going close to failure. Sets of 12 to 20 reps with a focus on the eccentric movement with intensity. Low reps and heavy weight didn't do much for me. And was more likely to result in injury.

@YouTubeChillZone

Жыл бұрын

Junk is when you go heavy but not heard enough or whit dogshit form. By themselves, low or high repetitions don't matter, they have to be hard.

Hi Eugune Thanks for the Interesting Video, I have been training now for 4 Years now and through you and other people like Doctor Mike, John Medows, Jeff Nipard and you learned so much. Funny thing is, that I have used some of these methods without realizing it XD.

@jessevandijk7524

Жыл бұрын

Dang, those are exactly the people I learned the most from as well! Jeff taught me a lot about training splits and planning workouts. John taught me to train really hard and some very useful techniques. Dr Mike for all the small adjustments you can make in an exercise. And eugene is a bit of a combo of Mike and John. Without those people I’d still be a gym bro who has no clue

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Yes! It's amazing how much information is influenced by these greats without people realising it

Great content thanks.

Mike Metzger, and Mike Ohearn are the gurus I follow

Mentzer way has given me the most gain in my youth. It's the best way in my humble opinion. But nowadays I only do 5x5 workout just maintain my strength

I learned how to choose exercises from Gironda, I learned how to approach about volume/intensity/frequency from Mentzer (with much deviation from his system), and I learned how to put it all together from Meadows.

Love Mike Metzger and his philosophy with training. I did many types and follwed many programs over the years but I really enjoy MM. Note some of the comments detail in a more articulate manner his protocols than the video.

Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on different vertical jump programs

Great content and so much respect for the late Great John Meadows. I Still enjoy his platform and of course your own videos, eugene. But where's the cup of tea! you liked to start your video with. Maybe next time!

this is why i do ... did a lot of hammys with squats to protect my knees and help thelp not get pain - worked

I just got into bodybuilding.. im 40, but i did jitz for 20 years. Ive been on heavy duty for about a month.. ive blown up snd my strength is... insane, i started at 155 and right now im 170 ish clean diet. Im not experienced with body building at all but i gotta say im happy with it so far. Ill be 200 in 6 months and able to tear you in half on the mats. Give it a try, its working for me.

This video should be mandatory for all lifters. It’s easy to get sucked into the dogma of a particular style of training when the reality is it’s all very open ended and evolving. Rest In Peace John, legacy will live on. Gunna try Bulgarian split squat from hell tomorrow!

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Would definitely love a review of the Brian alsruhe training system!

HST by Brian Haycock, can’t find anything about it these days but remember their forum being pretty busy about 20 years ago! I liked it but a lot of people didn’t like lifting sub max weights.

Any video that uses John Meadows in the thumbnail instantly gains credibility. RIP Mountain Dog.

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

🙏🙏

@imjustsam1745

Жыл бұрын

@@coacheugeneteo it's very clear you studied him well. The calm thoughtful delivery you have reminds me of him a lot.

Hey Eugene! I’m going to college in a couple of months for a degree in sports science with an emphasis on sports performance because I really want to increase my knowledge for future clients when I personal train. Could you please tell me what degrees you had when you went to college? Iv watched nearly all your videos on your app and your knowledge is something I desire the most.

I just learned so much from John. Man I miss him.

Ryan Humitson’s “Backed by Science”. Just started it and it’s been fun.

new subscriber man you are really helpful,can you please upload a free most effective push/pull/legs workout routine to achieve your physique please???

@coacheugeneteo

Жыл бұрын

Get the trial to my app and check them out for free