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@msherlock1607

4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy and in the UK this Omega is priced at £11,100 and the Rolex even with the 10% price increase they’ve just levied against it, is £10,500. So I agree, if the Omega was £5500 I’d purchase one, but not at this price.

@DarylChangs

4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy Do you recommend getting the speedmaster with the 1861 movement or wait for the 3861?

Nice review. Unfortunately, the Daytona movement does not even come close to the Omega or rather the Lemania 2310 base. The 2310 base from Lemania started its journey in the 1940s and is produced still today - 80 years and going - and was adopted by Breguet, Vacheron, Patek and others. Daytona was worn by a Hollywood actor, while Speedmaster went to the moon in mankind's most important event in world history. So the market demand may push Daytona way beyond the price of a Speedy, but it has by no means the real historic status the Speedy has - and will never have. Old Daytonas belong in a an auction house, old Speedies belong in a museum.

@mlogicli

11 ай бұрын

The last line is the best summary I've seen

@jackprick9797

4 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Just because something sells well, doesn’t imply quality at all. Rolex reminds me of the Ford F150. So many people buy them because that’s what every one else has.

Yes, you can get an original 105.003 for the same price, but it almost certainly won’t come with papers, so you have no idea of the provenance, service history, what parts are original or not, the case has probably been polished over the years, etc. A lot of unknowns. This re-issue makes it easy to own a piece of history and the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal makes is suitable as a daily wearer. As a bonus, you can admire the caliber 321 every night when you take it off, and every morning when you put it on.

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I'm curious why so many people don't catch the point. The key is the cal.321, a column wheel hand-wound chronograph with decent finishing and probably the best behind-story among chronographs. Name another chronograph with similar properties(don't tell me the Daytona, it's far far different).

As the owner of 3 Rolex watches including a 2021 Daytona ceramic ... I can tell you this watch IS on par with any Rolex... they are smart not to flood the market with them... they're joining the big boys finally again..

I read that there are 6 watchmakers in Biel dedicated to the 321-assembly. My watchmaker in Zürich told me that it takes about 4 h to assemble the 321 with a practice. That adds up to about 60 calibers per week. 45 work weeks -> 2700 watches per year. How long will be the production run? May be 4 years🤔 So we’ll see between 10-15000 pieces of that...

@tippykaffu4047

4 жыл бұрын

That does not take account of making the parts and the finishing. I don't know how long will it be though.

@SpilkersKompass

4 жыл бұрын

Tippy Kaffu : sure, you’re right. I assumed that the bottleneck is in the headcounts for the assembly.

@jaberjaber9503

4 жыл бұрын

They take holidays don't they!

@SpilkersKompass

4 жыл бұрын

Jaber Jaber : that’s why I took 45 weeks instead of 52

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

So HODINKEE’s 1000-2000 pieces a year is probably correct, I’m sure every watchmaker in Biel needs a coffee break here and there lol 😂 and a few sick days down the year, so 2000 is a more reasonable number of production and giving the size of the fan base and potential flippers across the whole world, offfffff!!!

Great video, as always. You really have interesting, informative reviews.

I am sure this watch has been released for a very specific target audience - the Omega enthusiast who wants a special Speedmaster, but does not want to but a vintage piece (due to reliability issues, fear of getting something that's not 100% authentic, ...) and has the funds to pay the asking price. That person will hardly consider a contemporary Daytona, it's just a very different type of watch with a different set of specifications. I doubt that this target customer will care about the lacking chronometer/Metas certificate and the limited water resistance. Although I wish it would only cost the half, Omega would be foolish to price this watch any cheaper. It's an icon, it has been anticipated for many years, and while very expensive, it's not totally outrageous, as the platinum version was. I don't think that it would be a good idea to make a lower-cost version of this time piece. In my view, that watch already exists - the regular Speedmaster Professional with the 1861/63 movement. In my humble opinion Omega got it 99% right with this model - without fauxtina it would be the perfect watch to me, but hey, I can live with 99% ... ;-) Great video, BTW ... ;-)

Great watch. I hope I get one. Thanks for a great review ID Guy!

I'm buying this watch if i get a chance. On the list with my OB. I believe the 321 will always be a small production piece that Omega will use in exclusive pieces. Maybe after making a few thousand they will do a 42mm professional with the 321. I will buy this also. Comparisons with the Daytona??? If Rolex were to release a new Zenith Daytona but with all the benefits of the Ceramic then YES compare. I own a 1969 861 Speedmaster, a 50th Anniversary Apollo 11, and I now have to have this. I also own a Zenith Daytona which is beautiful.

What a great video brother!

It’s not really a re-issue. It has the 321 movement and that movement requires some special hand fitting and attention. But there are a lot of differences too. The case back being sapphire instead of steel is a biggie. It’s a really, really cool Speedy, but in typical Omega fashion, they don’t really do a direct recreation. They like to do tributes.

The "Ed White" 321 Reissue is a lovely piece, for sure. But ... (yes, I have a "but") ... The "Ed White" is a reissue of a pre-moon Speedmaster. And not to take anything away from it, we STILL do not have a steel 321 MOONWATCH reissue; as actually flew to the moon.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

It's still a "reissue"... sad but true. The next step will be putting the movement in a steel Professional case, mark my words ;)

@meson183

4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy I do hope so. I would love a 321 Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich.

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

meson1 I think the 105.033 Ed White, 105.012 and 145.012 did go to the moon, which the Ed White was most famous for the first EVA but did went to the moon in later missions, just not the 1969 Apollo 11 where the other references really shined..... Chill

@meson183

4 жыл бұрын

@@begood5652 I looked on the Smithsonian Air and Space museum website. I looked at Neil Armstrong's Speedmaster. You can see that the case type is the 'newer' twisted lug style case. You can also see the movement and see the column wheel that identifies it as a 321. That is why I hope Omega will do a 321 Moonwatch reissue to go alongside the "Ed White." It would be expensive, due to the 321 being hand made and the low production volume of 321 pieces. But still I hope to see them release that one day in the not too distant future.

Excellent video once again👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

If Omega really keeps their promise on one horologist working on one calibre/one watch, with details and documentation of the process, i believe they will sell this watch well. Craftmanship or 'handmade' is rare in this industry especially by Omega or Rolex.

I love it! No, I can’t afford it but, being such a fan of Omegas from the past it is nice to see reissues like the Trilogy 57 Edition and this 321 Edition being recreated quite authentically. Some may nit pick at things like the Fauxtina but hey, they’ve done it now. The display caseback really shows off the beautiful movement in style. I can’t wait to see one. As for Daytona comparisons, you said it yourself, it’s a different watch. Not as robust, missing the crown guards and screw in pushers and not as waterproof but, it is a slightly different beast. The Ceramic bezel is clever marketing from Omega which associates the Ed White with the Daytona but, we will see how popular the Omega proves in time. Thanks again for another great video my friend and a Happy New Year to your good self too by the way! ✊

I will queue up for this watch, it’s a lot of what I’ve always wanted in a speedmaster and more. I’m ok with the price because I know the value. Purists won’t ever be satisfied but I’m not one of them. You want an affordable speedy that’s cosc and metas certified? Get an upcoming 3861 caliber in steel due to be rolled out soon or a speedy racing with a 9900 caliber.

@wassuperr

4 жыл бұрын

DF DF i completely agree

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Without question it is the ultra Speedmaster reissue (and it makes total sense why enthusiasts would love it) It's the sort of model that epitomises what Modern Omega can do. I cannot wait to see one in the flesh preferably with an original Ed White next to it ;) Thanks for the comment DF

@countryprepper4719

4 жыл бұрын

I realize people bitching I've the price, however when you son goes to antiques roadshow they will say looky here you have a super sought after watch worth more than the average speedmaster "which I own" 👍👍

@dfdf4874

4 жыл бұрын

Country Prepper people bitch about the price because they think it’s still the 1960s. Most don’t realize how much the quartz revolution changed the industry and how it has evolved into the luxury market of today. In my opinion, this Speedy 321 is a unique product with no competitors.

@christophschlapbach7177

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. But how sure are you that there will soon be a 3861 caliber in steel (basically a moonwatch professional where 1861 is replaced by 3861)?

Not sure why but I've been in love with the caliber 321 since I first really getting into watches. I owned four 321 Seamasters and several Lemania based CH27 caliber watches. But never took the opportunity to buy a 321 Speedy. Came close many times but it just never happened. When I first heard about this watch being made I believed it would be a limited edition of about 2,000 units. If this would have happened I thought the price would be approx. $12,500-$15,000 and well worth it for collectors and enthusiasts. But now that we know that this re-edition 321 will stay in production for years, albeit a slow production, I think the price should have come in a bit below $10,000. Still expensive, but not over the top.

I deliberatly delayed the purchase of a 861 Speedmaster because i wanted the 321. Sad that Omega limits the 321 movement to their exclusive watches.

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

Both models with this revived cal.321 are non-limited.

@andychang7137

4 жыл бұрын

@@leyay7540 they are just priced high...

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

@@andychang7137 Too many examples have shown us the list prices only mean a little. If the market doesn't accept, it will have a considerable discount.

@andychang7137

4 жыл бұрын

@@leyay7540 Man, I think you are totally correct !!!

@florishaze2623

4 жыл бұрын

@@leyay7540 but on the other hand, if the market likes it it will only be available at a considerable premium

Beautiful piece, nothing but respect for an Omega chrono....love the ploprof and Speedmaster....you can keep all the others

Fantastic video on a stunning watch! Well done as always IDGuy. I have to agree with you that the two major drawbacks to this watch are the fauxtina and mostly importantly, the price.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you as always Blueshirt. I actually want to draw up a budget sheet for Saturday's livestream just to see what you could get for the same money... the results will shock people!

Sadly horlogy is seen as investment in last years. Sad for us watch lovers. Great video!

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

This is going to turn into a video. What a brilliant topic! It is very sad that people are buying to hoard and lock away. I'd understand if they were unwearable things... but watches need to be worn and enjoyed. Simple as that. Thank you as always for the comment Cedar!

@VeriStrawberi

4 жыл бұрын

Except Omegas lose value. If you want to make money reliably. Rolex or Patek

@nikhilsinha7730

4 жыл бұрын

@@VeriStrawberi patek loses value a lot more than Omega unless its the aquanaut or nautilus or something extremely rare.

@caet49

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree....however back in the Day when my dad bought his seamaster he still had to use a ton of money....Investment thinking are the resultat of Rolex go to market strategy more so then any other brand. I would be a stunning topic and i hope we get a video about it

It’s priced to differentiate it from other Speedmasters whilst still creating a ‘halo’ effect for the whole model line. It’s priced, together with inherent limitations on production and supply, to ensure a degree of exclusivity. And, almost certainly, it’s priced to go head to head with the Daytona as an aspirational piece. I don’t think there can be any serious doubt that it’ll succeed on all three counts and do exactly what Omega expects of it (which is to add Rolex-style value to the brand).

The FOIS doesn't have a hesalite crystal. It's sapphire.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks SP, I was mid-thought and botched it (but I really did think the crystal was plastic! Why wouldn't they make it more authentic for the model?)

To the ‘average’ person looking to buy a Speedy...why buy this when THE moon watch is a fraction of the price?

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

You could buy at least 5 Speedy Pro's right? It's a mind-blow....

@MS-sy8ls

4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy 👍🏻

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

Of course they are not made for average people. They won't make more than 2000 cal. 321 annually. How can this be a mainstream product?

@thew60

4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy You can buy two new Speedy Pros (with about 2k to spare) for the MSRP of this piece. Still not worth this price BUT the market is what it is and all of them will be scooped up.

@MS-sy8ls

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Shebes good point 👍🏻

This is a very cool watch along with a few others from Omega including the yellow gold they introduced last summer. I bought a new Daytona last year (which I gave to my kid) and when push comes to shove, Rolex covers my/our needs every time.......Rugged, water-proof with screw-in crown and pushers, etc. If I was a guy that liked owning dozens of watches, I'd definitely buy one. However, I prefer owning fewer watches, but ALL must be rugged and water-proof. And If I were to wear a Manual-Wind, Leather-Strap; it would be the JLC Reverso. The Omega is definitely a cool watch though. Thanks and Happy New Year!

I like it. Look at it this way.... the only other way to get the "new" 321 is the $65,000.00 50th anniversary platinum. I am a sucker for the FOIS and I will definitely try to add this to the collection.

The price on this watch surprises. If I had the funds, I would have picked the anniversary edition instead with the master chronometer movement.

@OBWAT

4 жыл бұрын

All of a sudden the steel apollo 11 50th edition looks like a bargain! Same style bracelet, debut of the cal 3861 and golden anniversary of when the moonwatch became the moonwatch!

@SGM805

4 жыл бұрын

OBWAT £7370 for a new Apollo 50th anniversary, but selling a little over retail at £9000 new “6969 pieces made”

@OBWAT

4 жыл бұрын

@@SGM805 That's true, although I personally rate the Apollo 11 50th over the new speedy 321, and spending £9000 instead of £11,300 leaves you with a good chunk of change for your next watch fix ;)

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

The anniversary is a beautiful model PLUS it's not a reissue ;) Thanks for the comment brother!

Its really the perfect Speedy isnt it, yes we all can complain about the price, but Omega has given us what we have asked for all this time & with the market prepared to pay double retail for Rolex models I dont see the problem with paying the price Omega is asking. My name is already on the list. And that movement is perfectly decorated.

It's quite interesting! Sometimes people care about the movements crazily; but in some other cases people also can ignore the movements at all 🤣

Excellent analysis of this watch and what Omega is trying to do with it. And good luck to them.

The lune is not ‘faux’ it matches the colour on the original from the 1960’s. So much better than having white.

Another Addition from Omega! I can’t handle it! I’ll take my Daytona Panda. Nice video mate.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

C'mon... it's only the Trillionth reissue... What? You can't keep track? Hahahaha! I could happily live out the rest of my days with a Panda Daytona, Tim. Thanks for the comment as always brother!

@TimG--

4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy I’m alway learning on your videos. Love that. Keep up the good work. The 321 “Ed White” looks great. The downside is the movement has plated gold gearing. Don’t like that. Should be a full precious metal gearing. Maybe then worth the price.

Agree with many here, the price is in-line for this Halo watch. The only thing I would ask is COSC/ METAS certification, but other than that, it's perfect.

this is Omega playing their game well... this is better than a Daytona! Perfect dimensions 39mm case, 19mm lug, just perfect...

What’s your view on the omega speed master mark 2 orange dial

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

I'm dying to look at the MK2! We can chat about it on Saturday's Livestream (and I want to make an episode about it)

@paulrobertclayton5352

4 жыл бұрын

IDGuy i would be looking forward to the full review. It’s been on my radar for the last year . My local dealer has one and I’m very tempted by the pure sheer beauty of it .

Stunner...shits all over a daytona!

It even has the Dot-over-90 on the bezel. That's some attention to detail.

This has the same water resistance as the original which is 50 meters / 167 feet which is more than ample for most people's swimming activities, if you want to go diving get a specific dive watch such as the Seamaster or Submariner.

@philipv3098

4 жыл бұрын

Mr Fixit , as strange as it may sound but 50m waterresistant is NOT for swimming. Unfortunately this is a misconception that seems to last forever. 50m is for showering , having a bath, washing hands 100m is for swimming etc

@mrfixit100

4 жыл бұрын

@@philipv3098 You are correct regarding the current standards ISO 22810 but providing the seals are checked and kept in good order no damage should result from surface swimming ONLY and certainly NOT to be used when snorkeling or any deeper. Not that you would want to wear a chronograph while swimming anyway as you cannot use the chrono whilst submerged/wet as water would be forced past the seals in the pushers into the case causing major problems.

@whereRbearsTeeth

4 жыл бұрын

You would have to have rocks in your head to swim with a $14,000 chronograph with 50m of water resistance.

How can they put a steel watch through an MRI? Did you mean CTX or X-Ray?

The watch is Perfectly Priced considering the post retail prices and lack of availability of the Daytona. While the Daytona has the auto winding and water resistance, Heritage of Washington ch and its movement is the great equalizer in this comparison. Cutting the price in half for this piece would be extremely inconsiderate of its vintage Brethren! This is the Best move Omega has made in Years!

ID Guy got new mic, your voice sounds different?

Absolutely gorgeous - but that is price is definitely a turn off unfortunately. Can't argue with anyone who wants it though - and I can't fault the guy that doesn't due to the price. Great video as always!!!!!

ive had both and now only have the 321

Omega has Rolex, and specifically the Daytona, in its sights. Can it be pulled off... can they reclaim the real crown of the watch industry.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Splitt 77 commented "and pigs will fly" hahaha! I think we know the answer. If Omega halfed the watches current price... they would decimate any other chronograph out there (other than the Daytona and it's hype-factor of a billion)

@patrickdehaan3670

4 жыл бұрын

gmshadowtraders: Grand Seiko has them both beat, in looks, quality and price.

@MS-sy8ls

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick De Haan GS may have the looks and the quality (debatable) but they simply don’t have the brand name. No matter how shallow, lots of people are turned off by the name and think GS is just overpriced Seiko.

@jlo8775

4 жыл бұрын

@Patrick De Haan but at the end of the day the name on the dial says “SEIKO” and that’s why it will never be recognized as “better”.

I think Omega understands that this will eventually become an investment piece for semi-purists. People that want to invest but also want to wear it with pride amongst the best of Rolex Daytona. Personally, I understand their move. There are many Daytonas out there on everyone's spotlight, and I'm sure Omega want to dig deep with this one to separate the crowd. I love everything about the watch, even the faux patina, but the price could be a little lower though, like 3/4 of what it is now. If I had the money, I'll buy it in a heartbeat

It is waterresistant to 50 meters so heavy rain or a fall in a pool is no problem. When it comes to the Daytona you can hardly get it for 14 K. Much easy to get it for 19-20 K.

Back in the day these and Rolex Subs were tool watches, anyone with a reasonable income could afford one. Example I bought a Rolex sub for 136 pounds I was just a truck driver . It costs was less than one months pay 💰 Now folks save for years to buy, and worry about scratching them , just more proof the world has gone mad 😠

To be honest, this new Speedmaster is 3 times as attractive as the modern Daytona.

@TommyRibs

4 жыл бұрын

Oh ya, this is gorgeous. Imagine this layout with a Panda or Reverse Panda offering as well.

Thanks great video but the water resistance is 5 bar or 50 meters - so, while it’s not much, you can shower with and have no issues in the rain....

Hmmm for me that’s a bit of a Apples to Oranges comparison, not that I care way way out of my price range!

I wonder why didn’t they make it with a 321 movement and Daytona specs like the water proofing?

I'd love to hear your thoughts about the modern Tudor Advisor (79620).

Or pop a flat link bracelet on the FOiS … and get the budget version, which looks superb and in period

That's a crazy price for a movement that can still be bought in it's original format, albeit decades old! Im inclined to agree it's sided up against the virtually unobtainable Daytona, repeating history in contention for first watch worn on the moon - could be an interesting marketing strategy if that's the thinking! I was interested, even registered my want with Omega and a local AD, but at that price, I'll stay in wait for the Daytona.

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Nicely said Mannix. If they halved the price they would obliterate other chronographs available today (other than the Daytona of course) But any enthusiast would gladly pick one up while waiting for a Daytona regardless ;)

Nearly put a deposit down but was told a 2yrs waiting list to get one so!!!!

Really don't get it. I always heard that everyone waits for this model. Model that can actually compete with Daytona. Ofc it's not as rugged as Rolex, but I don't believe that this is why we are ready to pay extra. Imo Speedy and Daytona are legends not because of robust, but because there is history behind these models. Maybe this is the strategy that will allow Omega to stand as equal with Rolex.

Just 1 inaccuracy. The FOIS actually has a sapphire not hesalite crystal. 1 way to tell for certain is the act the dial has the big milky ring around it. I think it would have been such an amazing release if they had gone with hesalite. One of the amazing things they did with the 2020 ed white is change the sapphire crystal used. Though sapphire, it doesnt have the ring that other sapphire speedmasters have which makes it more appealing by being durable but maintaining the beauty of hesalite

13500euro is the price of this new 321 model, its is the price of a steel Daytona but it is also the price of a vintage Speedy Ed White in good state (but it is so difficult to find and so difficult to know if it is a Frankenwatch or not). So it is a new watch for the price of an old one, It think that is the main point to consider. My Omega Ads are already harassed by customers, it will be a daytona-fight to get these new models.

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

Most of us can't get a steel Daytona with this price...

@BobGolob

4 жыл бұрын

yes, I know. It is a bit crazy to have to spend more than 20'000 euros to get it...

It’s expensive.......but I’ll bet they can’t make them quickly enough. Personally I think it’s a beautiful looking watch .

🔝

I think they should keep the price high. It makes the watch rarer and not everyone and their grandma will have it.

I don't think it's faux patina on the indices and hand hands, its how an original would have looked when new.

(0:49) Are you sure they didn't scan it with a CT scan? I feel like an MRI of a watch wouldn't produce the best results considering the predominantly metal parts.

i love it, just the price expensive.... cheers

@m2pozad

4 жыл бұрын

Alpha to the rescue!

So much better looking & iconic than the Rolex. Love "fautina" too - price is academic for me as no watch is worth more than £1k to me. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻

Give it a few years and the 321 will trickle into a hesalite, solid caseback, aluminum bezel model. Sub $10k at MSRP eventually as configured above?

Omega should put down the pipe when pricing their watches of late

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Love this hahahaha!

@TommyRibs

4 жыл бұрын

The watch market is super strong right now. Everybody is raising prices as the economy is really strong, and the market will bear it. A Speed Master is still priced very well when you compare it to Rolex and some other brands. But ya, the price on the Ed White tribute watch is head scratching. They will sell all of them though. I wish they would do more Professionals with Panda and Revers Panda Dials. The Revers Panda Professionals are flat out the best looking watches in existence.

@macoyupadoodle

4 жыл бұрын

@@TommyRibs i totally agree with everything you said . The price is the ultimate head scratcher. The boom in the popularity of mechanical watches is still there and it seems everybody is capitalizing (like seiko).

321 would be difficult to regulate to COSC specs let alone METAS. Not a fan of the Daytona, but I'd have that in a heartbeat at 14-15K.

I really don't care for the 321 I just like the case shape and proportions. If we could get this case and dial in with a 'cheaper' movement, it'll be perfect.

the tritium ed white watch did not have brilliant white lume when new. i don't believe omega's choice to colour the lume on the reissue has anything to do with patina, rather they're matching the colours of the original piece when new.

Omega having Daytona in sight is as good as pissing in the wind. If we go according to the erroneous trajectory that buying a watch is an investment, then due diligence test must be applied. Omega has a track record of mass producing their limited editions, which will certainly apply to this model, how will it out perform Rolex Daytona with a good track record of not only holding value but yielding profits? Most people driving the desirability of Rolex are not watch enthusiast. Omega should look inwards and not at their competitor, if value is your priority then you buy Rolex, however if value for money is more important you buy an omega. That seems to be the trend but I stand to be corrected.

Perhaps it is even better watch than Daytona. But Daytona is the only Rolex chronograph. This Speedy has no chance in gaining such demand. It is one of many Omega chronographs, even one of many Speedmasters... It is for watch enthusiasts only. Not so special for anyone else. Hype for Daytona is much stronger, everyone wants it, it's a status symbol (no matter how pathetic it sounds...) for average joe. That's why its hot, not only because of small supply.

how can it be suited for space, but not for water?

How much really?

I doubt they put it in MRI! Rather CT

For those that complain about price, and its daytona competition, try buying daytona at msrp. At least you can buy this speedy at msrp with 6-12month wait. This speedy has much richer history than daytona. Rolex marketing just won over omega thats all. People don’t mind paying 26k for daytona, and complain against one of most sought after speedy reissue at half the price? Just be thankful that we were able to get speedy professional for under 5k, because that watch should’ve worth more.

Why do we love mechanical watches? It’s the craftsmanship. We pay a premium for an inferior time keeping device because we see that what we get is more than just a device to measure time. We are buying into skill and artisanry that has little right to continue to exist in the modern era. This movement is finished and constructed by one person. What better expression of skilled craftsmanship is there? That process is painstaking in terms of man hours and can only be completed by highly skilled individuals. So why so expensive? The answer really should be obvious to anyone

If this is 39mm, Omega could easily put this RI movement into a Speedy Reduced for me, right ... ?! 😎🙃

The limited supply is beacause of the insane price, the lack of water protection...and so on...

I still think watch is way overpriced. I'm also not a fan of the pre professional case. Ftr, the FOIS has a sapphire crystal and the lume on this new SS 321 is not faux. The lume back in the 60s was off-white when new. Great video, though. I enjoy your channel.

Everything is engineered to never scratch or fade, Sapphire on both sides, ceramic bezel except one thing : dial. I wonder why its not an enamel dial, with that price enamel all the way..

I've had the chance to buy a Speed Master a few times and always backed away. This is a nice watch but after all it's after a reissue of an old Speedmaster with and old movement at a very steep price. Bottom line for me, no thanks. For the record I like Omega's I have two. A Seamaster and a Deville. Both great watches.

I have heard about this reissue for a while, but did not know they made the movement by hand or the price is going to be as much a Daytona. It will be scarce as well, it is a turn off just like I have been turned off by the Rolex shortage. 12 to 14k in US dollars makes no sense. I don't think Omega will ever have the demand Rolex does.

Im still not onboard with Omega riding this "watch that went to space" decades later. Its not the watch reference that went to space, it just looks like the watch that did.

The Daytona is desirable because it is hard to come by. The market is flooded with all kinds of Speedys including the original at wildly varying price points. People will probably payw through the nose on the grey market at first. Time will tell for the long-term but Omega keeps pumping out the Speedy year after year. Cheers

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

As long as they don't release models with cal.321, your theory won't work.

@derekshearer9049

4 жыл бұрын

@@leyay7540. You can buy vintage 321 for less. So, ya it does work. Just another Speedy limited edition to add to a pretty watered down soup.

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

@@derekshearer9049 I don't buy any vintage watch at all. I buy every watch to wear and enjoy, but vintage watches are not that practical most of the time.

@derekshearer9049

4 жыл бұрын

@@leyay7540. Ok, you buy the the Speedy with the 321 and l will buy the Speedy with the 1863. Cheers

Is the 321 movement so difficult to mass produce that it must be done by one watch maker from start to finish?? Is Omega doing this to justify the price and LIMITED production?? Is this going to be as hard to get as a Daytona? I think more time was spent on the marketing scenario than the watch!! Too pricey-Omega you really frustrate me!!

Why would anyone spend £11300 for Fauxtina..when you can buy an original vintage full set piece for half the price.

If you are buying this watch, you are an individual who wants something very specific, and are willing to pay for it. Perhaps pay too much in my opinion, but this individual understands this. I would take a different approach if I wanted a piece of history. I would rather have a 321 that was of the real era. You would be getting a watch that is not only a better investment, but historically the "real McCoy". This is what this individual is really after isn't it?

Most overpriced Omega in the existence. But also the best Omega Speedmaster in the existence. If the patina is replaced and the price is halved, there would be a killer sale from Omega. And Rolex Daytona sale might plummet from what i see.

@jimmysplit7729

4 жыл бұрын

Tippy Kaffu yeah and pigs might fly too Lol Nothing wrong with dreaming I guess.

@leemartin2978

4 жыл бұрын

They’ll sell every one they make regardless of price

@robertbarta4912

4 жыл бұрын

Everything you said is absolutely true...except if you think this watch (or the same at half the price) will have any impact on Rolex Daytona sales. BTW, love the bracelet on this!!!

@ID-Guy

4 жыл бұрын

Just think how many Speedy Professionals you could get for the same money? Around 5? Just crazy.

@tippykaffu4047

4 жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy we could get 3-4 Speedmasters

Why omega makes limited edition on almost everything??? Why can't they just narrow down the lines just like Rolex? It's like android smartphone vs iPhone

Thanks for the review. I like this watch but I would not buy it. Reason 1: imho it is too small. I have a 8" wrist so this watch will look tiny on my wrist. Reason 2: it is too expensive. I think that you get the same amount of joy with the standard speedmaster for a fraction of the price. For this price other brands will come in reach and I would prefer a mint daytona or a VC overseas over this Speedmaster. I will buy a speedmaster one day. It is not on top of my shortlist. I wish the standard speedmaster would also have a ceramic tachy and better waterproofness. Just my 2 cents.

Wonderful movement. Nice watch ... but absolutely overpriced for what it is on paper exactly as it's possible counterpart the Daytona. Does anyone know if the new 321 is finally a hacking movement? I still can't believe that this was not a requirement for the original Speedy by NASA in the 60s.

You can't see the cal.4130 of the Daytona unless you remove the case back. So the debate ends, period.

@leyay7540

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_real_Mr_Ghost I won't buy any chronograph if I can't appreciate the movement. Of course I wear my watches but I don't need to use them to time anything at all.

Just the fact that we can soberly discuss this watch being sold for HALF it's asking price tells me all I need to know about this model.

A Tissot V8 chronograph

I find my Tritium Moonwatch looks so much better than my luminova ones, due to the yellow indices. So I am very glad Omega used faux-patina on this new old-model.

The FOIS is the best deal out there.

@KRBY555

4 жыл бұрын

leather only kills it

@Saboda53

4 жыл бұрын

krbcrwlr Just bought one. I prefer the leather band. Looks quite smart and stylish. And different from all the metal band Speedmasters.

@KRBY555

4 жыл бұрын

@@Saboda53 It's a cool watch. But you can put the bracelet on leather for the best of both worlds

I prefer the Speedmaster MK2 ......... Am I crazy!??

sorry ... no excuse for a modern watch not having good water resistance

@lamaludwig1470

4 жыл бұрын

agree

@lamadoo

3 жыл бұрын

Its 50 metres....are you diving down further than 50metres??

Awesome size and movement, but am I the only one also excited to also learn more about the bracelet? It looks like it has a nice taper and hopefully will have a discrete clasp with micro adjustment... I own a modern speedy pro and hate the current bracelet....