🚨EDIT🚨 @ 1:05 I mention that the Mercury mission took place in 1962- after that, I mistakenly say “1969” when going over it in greater detail. My mistake!!

@williamrizzo1285

4 жыл бұрын

It's all good, thank you for the clarification Jory.

@MrBloopt

4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@jaybee1196

3 жыл бұрын

69 dude!

The 321 is not a rip off. You will understand when you hold it in your hands. It is a small team handling it in Biel, Switzerland and they have limited production capacity. I will buy one and as far as I am concerned, I prefer it to a Daytona.

This watch isn’t for everyone. I was in an Omega boutique yesterday and I was having this same conversation. This watch is for people who see the value in the craftsmanship, the materials and the history of the movement. The faux patina is there to distinguish it from the FWOTM model. Omega have chosen a real haut horology route with this movement. The movement is constructed by one person and is finished in gold. That process is extremely expensive. It’s unnecessary, but so is all of luxury watch making really. The 1861 movement is a great movement. If you can’t afford or don’t see the value in the new 321 version, then don’t buy it. It really is that simple. I don’t understand people complaining about it. There are so many alternatives in the Speedmaster collection. In an ideal world I’d be able to buy a new Patek, Rolex and AP every year for the rest of my life... ain’t gonna happen. At least with Omega you have the chance to walk in and try on more than just one example of their range and in all likelihood you get treated with respect (in my experience)

@Thesupermanning

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. This is a killer watch that should be competing in price with the Daytona. I’m sure omega will have no problem selling them... which ultimately tells us that it’s not overpriced.

@jamesnash7262

4 жыл бұрын

...yes , but why ? the standard issue has all that wrapped in the/one of the greatest , most iconic tool watches of the 20th c. it stands on its' own...as does the classic fois...better to spend the effort in r&d for something new...

@BruBish

4 жыл бұрын

james nash then buy the icon. This watch isn’t for you. That’s fine. It’s not worth all the energy the community is expending by complaining about it. If it was $8,000 would you buy it? Probably not. So don’t worry. The watch just isn’t for you.

@jamesnash7262

4 жыл бұрын

...i own the sapphire sandwich...it's important to let Omega know our response to this issue ...there are no doubt collectors with precise enough collections who will acquire this...

@BruBish

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesnash7262 what issue? That's how the company has chosen to construct this movement. If you're not happy with it's price or inevitable lack of availability, all that means is that this watch isn't for you. The Nautilus isn't for me. I don't have the income or the relationship with Patek ADs. I'm not going to moan about it. I'll buy watches that I can attain instead. Why moan about this? Omega have other brilliant Speedmasters that you can purchase if you want one at a more reasonable price with greater availability

Rolex: Let’a make a ridiculously overhyped stainless steel chronograph that’s ridiculously hard to buy at MSRP. Omega: Hold my hesalite crystal...

@drawincode1800

4 жыл бұрын

What's with all this - hold my 💨 Crap I keep seeing in the comment section all about?

@jtwu8931

4 жыл бұрын

Hold my blow

@abitofmymind

3 жыл бұрын

Darwin code... Bitches about comments. Me... Hold my beer

@martinyong2806

3 жыл бұрын

Omega: Let take away the column wheel 312 > replace with rachet 861for better margin and now put back and hike the price.

Can anyone help advise what the reference number would be for the closest spec to this without it being a special edition?

I kinda like the 321 for the display caseback and "historical movement" and have considered getting one... But I understand where you're coming from! Its great to have more choice now in speedmasters, and of course as with everything, your mileage may vary! Buy what you love, enjoy your watches! Dont go into debt over it!

Thank you for the review. What do you think about Speedmaster 57 broad arrows model.

What is the reference number closest to this watch? I.e the non limited edition?

5 years waiting list, well my boy you ain't getting the watch for anywhere close to retail so I wouldn't worry about it too much

The conversation I had with a local AD leads me to believe that everybody thinks they set the price too high. Before reading the price, I was expecting $10-$12k and I think that's where they expected it to land. $12k after taxes is about where I start to think about it, above that as I can think of plenty of watches I'd rather have.

The good thing about all the ltd editions is that it keeps the price of the regular watch down, you can pick up a standard moon watch for around £3000 and that will get you one less than a year old.

What are your thoughts on bulova lunar

I never really had any appeal for the Speedmaster until the 321 "Ed White" came along. The flat-link bracelet has more of a vintage aesthetic that just works with the rest of the watch and is more true to the original. The case without the crown guards is both smaller, easier to wind and more visually appealing. Then onto the movement. A beautiful movement, that found it's way into Patek Philipe, Vacheron Constantin and Audemars Piguet timepieces in one form or another. It's also the original movement for this case style so it makes the most sense. The scratch resistance offered by the domed crystal is welcome, especially considering the absence of the milk ring on this model. The open caseback to view that beautiful movement is the icing on the cake. The fact they need to make these in a seperate division only by a single watchmaker at a time, and are thus only able to make 1000 pieces per year adds another level of specialness to this timepiece. High attention to detail and limited production quantities of specially manufactured parts raises the price. To call the 321 a rip off is to show your complete ignorance to the intracies of the design, crafting and history of the 321. The market doesnt also appear to share your views, the 321 Ed White is currently on a 2 year waitlist, with grey market examples trading 40% over msrp for new examples.

It reminds me of what Seiko is doing atm. Let's sell the same watch but downgraded for the same price, or sell the same watch within new line but for way more ... (SKX/Alpinist)

@Ferien7

4 жыл бұрын

venrocking seiko is junk

@jackwestern8284

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ferien7 some of them are. Their Spring Drive watches are pretty interesting. Saying that I've got a Seiko SARW019 which is pretty nice and quite affordable but not run of the mill common

@hiyukelavie2396

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ferien7 Yet this "junk" company beat the Swiss so badly at their own Chronometer Trials back in 1968 that the Swiss had to cancel the competition midway just to avoid naming Seiko the winner

I think I’ll stick with my solid case back, old school hesalite speedy that I got for under 4K. Beautiful, functional, iconic, affordable! Hell, they all look the same anyway! Why would you buy that thing? It’s insane!

Do automatic watch movements change speed in zero gravity????

I have a Speedy Reduced .. Cost me $1750 on eBay .. and it’s a GREAT watch .. keeps awesome time too considering it’s been worn for like 20 years. And yeah .. Polywatch is insanely good for removing scratches on a speedy with hesalite crystal.

Hey Jory - great work. Here is my recommendation if someone has the budget for this new 321: 1. Get a modern CK 2998 re-issue which has the 1861 movement to have the flavor of the FOIS and is a numbered edition, or just the FOIS if you prefer. 2. Get a hesalite Speedy Pro of any year to have the bonafides that you have THE space watch with the 861/1861 depending on year. 3. Get a restored Seiko 6139-600x to get your need for a column wheel chronograph with the addition of a vertical clutch and an automatic movement to get the bonafides of the first auto chrono in space (or ever even...). 4. Take a nice Caribbean cruise with your honey with the money left over and bring your new cool watches with you to take fabulous pictures of in exotic places.

@benohanlon

2 жыл бұрын

Updated listed please 2022?

I don’t understand the Omega “hate” re the limited Speedies. Lots of horses for courses. And they have no issue selling any of them. Not dissimilar AT ALL to Rolex and the Daytona; overpriced steel chronos that WILL SELL. Except Rolex gets no static despite the fact that they make the Daytona from pure unobtanium. If I saw critiques on both, I wouldn’t even bother making this post. But I don’t. So here it is.

@Kostja81

4 жыл бұрын

I could not agree more.

Esse ômega é automático?

Only rip-off in steel chronograph market is rolex daytona. 14 000 CHF for Omega speedmaster with 321 caliber that is mady completely by only 1 (yes, ONE) watchmaker in special Omega studio is a bargain. Fair price for the most legendary chronograph ever.

I am a lucky guy. About 15-20 years ago I bought an Omega Seamaster gold-plated Chronograph for 325.00 from a pawn shop. It was in acceptable working conditions, but very dirty. I sent it to Omega, got refurbished, and still have. it. Before that, I had a large collection of Speedmasters, about 31, that I had also gotten cheaply mostly from pawn shops too. I sold most of them except the Seamaster. Then, my interest came again and saw Omega re-introduced the 321 as the Ed White model, and even though it was expensive, I got it after saving for some time. Then, just a couple of months after I bought the 321, Omega introduced the 3861 Meta Certified Speedmaster, and I also got one just three weeks ago. Now my actual collection is just 6 watches, those three Omega Chronos, a Zenith El Primero, an Omega X-33 and the Seiko 6138 "Pogue" chrono. I am more than satisfied having them because I have the best chronos ever made regarding brands. I don't think this New Omega 321 edition is a rip off, after all, it was the movement that was originally certified by NASA in 1965, beating Rolex, Longines and Hamilton chronos. So you do your own evaluation. Mine is that I have watches that will satisfy me for the rest of my life!!!!!!!! Regarding this video, it is GRRREAT!!!!!!

Supposedly the way the movement is assembled is akin to high horology, which if true would make the price justified I guess. However in the same way that many people have a hard time spending so much on Grand Seiko, because of the Seiko name, people will probably have a hard time spending so much on a speedmaster because of the prevalence of similar looking, far cheaper alternatives.

@midas1929

4 жыл бұрын

That's the reason. Small team and limited capacity. They will sell all they can produce and they do not want to have a Rolex problem.

I mean...if pricing wasn’t a contributing factor I’d have one. It’s a beauty build IMO. You make some valid points on the pricing. Absolutely crazy to think of how bizarre the pricing of the 321 compared to the Anniversary is.

Thank Jory. I’ve been looking at buying a Speedmaster Moonwatch OR an El Primero 1969. I already own a beautiful Speedmaster reduced. You’ve reminded me to appreciate my Speedy r3duced, and therefore I think I’ll wait on the professional and probably go with the El Primero first, maybe sell my reduced and look for a more vintage Moonwatch with a little bit of patience.

Great Review. I love Omega (and many other brands). Very much agree with your "value proposition" about Speedy Pros. Keep up the awesome content - you and many others have taught me a lot about this hobby/affliction of mine.

Actually the legend is not the Speedy 321 itself. I owned both a 1939 and 1945 Tissot with the Lemania 27 column wheel chronograph - an early version of the 1942 Lemania 2310. Those early Tissots were far higher quality than modern Tissot, especially with top notch Lemania movements. Considering the 2310 was used by Breguet, Vacheron and Patek also, yes, you will pay high for a 2310 in that new 321. So I am not surprised. I love my 1969 861 and 1968 321. Fabulous pieces, and yet still affordable. And the Lemania 2310 can probably be considered as one of the top 3 chronograph movements ever made.

This mans voice is enough to drive one madturning off

@PibrochPonder

3 жыл бұрын

It’s valley girl

Great video! I recently purchased the Speedmaster Moonwatch Calibre 3861 Sapphire. Nothing special about that if you compare it to limited edition releases etc. However, from a purely operating/ maintenance prerspective, it has to be the best Moonwatch ever. Give it time… it will be viewed as a classic.

I’m content with my Sapphire Sandwich. 😉

@jamesnash7262

4 жыл бұрын

..you and me...

@luke4638

3 жыл бұрын

we all 3 buddies

Jory, I agree completely - especially when you consider your 25th anniversary Speedmaster is a true limited edition where as the 50th anniversary watch is "limited" to 6,969 watches (not limited at all). I love the engraving on the midcase, very cool. Thank you for another thoughtful video :)

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Wood When they were making LEs and you are all bitching for “too many LEs already enough is enough”, then we have this non-LE 321 and all the sudden this “oh it’s not even a LE” argument all over the place? Wankers always have thing to bitch about, it’s a good thing that the first two year’s production are all spoken to, otherwise I can’t imagine how much more salty shit we would be hearing. This reply is nothing personal to your view, Mr. Wood, just a general thought of this so-call “watch community”.

14.100$ is a good price for a 321 its a True monster sneaky watch before go all gold. And i like 39,7 mm becouse small Works

The reference 311.30.42.30.01.005 is the Best Buy IMHO; caliber 1861, hesalite, dot over 90, tapered bracelet. You can get them, and pay in the $4K range at AD’s. Nice review!

men on the phucking moooooooon. meeen on the mooon. men on the moon phuckers

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

Judge Virulence Phuck me dead phuckers

@andrewshin4688

4 жыл бұрын

Rooooooolex. Rolex phuckers

@Judge_RR

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshin4688 ROOOOLEEEKKSS

@oceanblue5794

4 жыл бұрын

You don't want to be Omeeeega man, you want to be Rooooolexxxx man phuckers.

@bigmeech8715

4 жыл бұрын

Patty Phuckers! Rooooolex is for loser! Rolex is the poor mans Patty!

Another alternative is the original Ed White ref 105.003. It comes with the 321 movement, REAL patina and amazing value at less than the reissue! Buy carefully, buy now and watch prices rocket.

Just curious, after two years do you still think the Cal. 321 is a ripoff? Have you been able to see one/wear one yet?

I have the sapphire sandwich and am quite happy with it

For $14000 , I don't expect to see faux anything.

Good video! I think the 321 movement is kind of the opposite of prolific though since they’re not that easy to come by.

Racing Co-axial (40mm) and Broad Arrow 1957 (automatic) are the hidden gems if you like more up-to-date movements (co-axial, silicon balance spring), column wheel, more water resistance.

You can find good 145.022-69 for under 5k USD + buy used 005 for under 4k USD for daily + get 321 Seamaster (serviced) for ca 5k USD. Or buy this new 321 Speedy...

Surely you can charge what you want for an icon? Not overpriced compared to Daytonas...

Hi, thank you for your interesting video and your opinion. One question, you said that the Omega 321 is expensive for a no limited edition watch. But, barely all Rolex watches are no limited editions although, their price get higher and higher. So, do you really think that the Omega 321 doesn’t worth it ?

Agree Jory about the 321 Speedmaster. Way overpriced. I have a 2016 Speedmaster Pro with the Hesalite glass. Enough historical nods and legacy at a reasonable price. Best watch purchase ever.

At least they are starting to listen to their customers about the limited editions - this 321 and the new NTTD Bond watch but the pricing doesn't make sense here for what you get and the faux patina is a huge miss

I have a standard steelback Speedmaster Professional which I bought over 25 years ago and which has been perhaps my favourite possession and my daily wear watch for all of that time. However, as much as I love it if looked at in strictly objective terms when I can buy a perfectly decent watch for less than a tenth of the price and my cheap smart watch is way more accurate and functional then you could argue even the base model is a rip-off. I love nice watches, although I am not a real collector I have four quite nice mechanical watches (Omega, Fortis and Tudor) but I also recognise that the whole value case for watches breaks down very quickly and it is all about whether you like them. If you really like a watch and you can afford it then you just accept the price.

It’s cheap....and a steal at 14k / competed to the price of a vintage 321, 105.003 Ed white...it’s brand spanking new, handmade, historical pedigree and the movement is based on the lemania/omega colum wheel....did I say it’s new🙌🤩🤩🤩 I’m getting this no matter the price tag🔥🔥🔥 and it’s not limited so a proper speed master everybody has been screaming for ages for omega to make.

Sir I rather like the look of the Bulova that you alluded to in your last video.

GREAT review Jory, giving it you're all, as always! I'm a bit biased as I'm lucky enough to own a '65 Ed White', which I've had since 1978 for £85 (£425 in 2023 allowing for inflation, so a bit of a bargain?!) and was my first 'serious watch', I saved up to buy it from my first full time job, so it means a great deal to me, I really wanted a MKII, but they were out of my reach then, if I'd have known what they'd be worth now, I'd have bought as many as I could! Yes the Cal 321 is a classic movement, it went to the moon and back again, only the purchaser can say if the modern iteration is worth the money, I still love my '65 Ed White'. TBH when you consider the 'games' that certain other manufactures make you play to purchase one of their items that you actually want to own, it's not such a bad deal?!

@thekenthouse6428

Жыл бұрын

Treasure that beauty and congrats for keeping it all this time.

"Snooping around.." I see what you did there! :)

Hello everyone! I don’t know if this is a controversial question or not (I’m just now getting interested in timepieces) but are omega planning to make a speedmaster watch with an automatic movement? I think I would find it a bit annoying to keep winding a $14100 watch instead of it just being automatic. I know Omega have some automatic speedmasters but I don’t fancy the design of those as much as I prefer the design of the new 321. Any thoughts?

I have two thoughts on this: 1. It's expensive when compared to the regular Speedmaster, but cheap when compared to Vacheron Constantin with the 1141 or 1142 movements, all based on the Lemania 2310. 2. For this kind of money, you can buy a decent vintage cal. 321 (ref. 145.012 or maybe even 105.012) in a little less than perfect condition _plus_ a newer one with the 861/1861 movement. I am inclined to go the latter route. It's okay to have more than one Speedmaster, isn't it? And if I get rich I can have the VC too. I wonder what the pre owned prices will be.

Imagine how much Rolex would ask for such a special if they went to the moon. I'm OK with Omega, won't/can't buy it anyway. Let's stick with the Moonwatch Professional.

@Kostja81

4 жыл бұрын

And nobody would be upset 😅

This is a non limited edition but it is more special than limited editions in recent times, despite being two times the price of 2021 c3861 Speedmaster Professional, 2020 c321 Ed White is on wait list here in Singapore. Not something you can walk into OMEGA Boutique and buy one at SRP.

Speedmasters are cool, their model line can get confusing with so many of them.

The 321 model may seem expensive but that’s because we all tend to assume that the watch buying market is watch geeks like us and also that they all have our personal budgets/finances. Enough people pay twice rrp for a Daytona to prove that they’re not overpriced. And I’m guessing the 321 will sell for similarish prices to the non ceramic Daytona and it’s got a great movement, history, coolness etc along with being that price which in itself is enough to sell it to people buying at that price point. I couldn’t afford it now so I have the speedy pro but there are plenty of people with more money who wouldn’t buy a speedy pro because they’d think it was a cheaper watch but equally they can’t get a Daytona... so they may likely buy the 321. They may not all be watch geeks like us but only a very small percentage of the watch market is like us. That’s why Daniel wellington sells more than Halios 😂

Great video, and you are rocking on this one Sir 👍 Tam.

I like Omega watches. I own three, one of which is a Speedy Pro MOTM. Nothing special or limited edition but it did come in that ridiculously large box with all the unnecessary knick-knacks. When I first heard about the 321, I wanted one. But when I found out how much it costs...no thank you. I'm fine with my caliber 1861.

Omega just shitted in their own pants. It's not OK to pay 14 grand for a re issue where u can get a vintage 321 for less than 10 grand in a reasonable condition. Get the original 321!

The reason for the price of that watch is because the 1861 movement might be going and replaced with the co-axial movement 3821.and the 321 manual wind. That takes the Speedmaster Pro into a higher price point to compete with Rolex and a few other watch companies. The Speedmaster 1861 is the most undervalued watch on the market and a real gem that should be selling in the 7 thousand plus range.

I was thinking of just going for the standard speedmaster pro, seems the sensible option to me.

i was trying to find the 50th anniversary watch, but I end up buying a speedy pro as well- non limited- it is as good as any other piece. It still gets a lot more wrist time than my lolexes! something about speedy moonwatch understated look makes it more special

I seen the Omega 321 Speedmaster on Bob's watches for 21K plus, also did a little check on the net and seems they have been bought up and marked up, all above 20K... I would love to buy one for 14K!

14.000 for a movement hand made by one watchmaker. This where the money is. they won't be able to make that many

@juniorjr5328

3 жыл бұрын

Go jlc or glashutte for real watchmaking craft

I'll take my Speedy w/ Hesalite crystal, sapphire case back and the caliber 1863 that I paid $2000 for brand new all day long. Will never part w/ this watch as long as I live. Such an icon.

I have a totally original Omega Seamaster Chronograph Watch 145.006-66 cal. 321 w the stainless bracelet. Not the same name as the moon watch but essentially exactly the same watch. I just love it.

That intro is the ONLY way I know it’s Friday 😊

I think this is going to drive the big standard speedy prices up. Glad I own one

I owned the 861 movement, in a I seen Moonwatch . However, I still highly prefer the the look of the latest 50th anniversary Apollo XI. It is not for for USD 14K btw.

First and foremost, the bubble of swiss watch is doing very well, thank you social media. Then, it is a limited, unique, manual movement, modernized, on one of the most iconic watches. it is at around 15K E in Europe (higher taxes) but for that quality is a steal. And they are not going to produce a lot of them. Most will settle for the Speedy pro moonwatch for a third of the price

Or here is a much more affordable option. According to Wikipedia "In 1975 a Soviet cosmonaut Georgy Grechko wore the Amphibia watch during the Soyuz 17 mission to the Salyut 4 space station which led to the even higher popularity of Amphibia watches among people all over the world."

IMHO, first, completely replaced the current standard calibre 1863 / 1861 Speedmaster Professional with calibre 321 and lower the price to around US$9k range. Second, incorporate Co-axial escapement and Si14 balance spring and wheel into the calibre 1863 and replaced these with calibre 3330 on Speedmaster Racing at similar current price range.

The applied indices of the platinum version look much better than the stainless version.

I understand your views. But I agree with some viewers who wrote that this is a watch for a person who values the history, craftsmanship in short for a special watch enthusiast. It is not ment to be the only watch that you own. This one is more like a crown in the collection. In my case I love the look of the watch I adore the details they took the time to make. Is it worth that much money? For the right person absolutely... that person has been waiting for a remake for decades hehe for a person who doesn't know the history and only cares about looks it is not. That person will start to compare it to something like an overpriced Rolex 🤣

No no no you need to do an update! The new one now is an absolute joke of a rip off! Insane it’s 2-3k more expensive

Enjoy your reviews informative and fun. Are you on Facebook?

I’d spend silly money on a Snoopy Speedy if I had it but that’s it.

I think this model is reasonably priced. 321 is Omega's proud movement. Once it enters Joma probably they will be sold at 10-12k which is a steal imo.

@tfergieman

2 жыл бұрын

Or not…lol. Darn it.

@vjsseafoodmountgravatt9568

10 ай бұрын

😂

I’ll stick with my Speedmaster racing with the 3330 movement.

I just purchased the new 321 Speedy, because it is beautiful and it fits my wrist perfectly at 39.7mm

"Its 3:25 PM" so close.. you missed out on the chance to do it at 3:21 PM by 4 Minutes :(

@Jsuarez6

4 жыл бұрын

Haha. That would have been perfect.

The titanium 321 was $150,000, any vintage speedy 321 fro the time is going to set you back $15-25,000. To be fair if you want the 321 there's no better way in my opinion. If you really just want the speedy on your wrist you can get the Speedmaster and you don't care about the movement then get the Speedmaster reduced with an ETA for between $1-2000. I think if you're gonna go for the Speedy, go all the way and get the real 321.

There are serveal things in it. There is no need to make the new 321 speedmaster limited because the pricetag already makes it limited to many. Nr. 2. The 321 speedmaster makes the cheapes new man on the moon watch looks cheap and will properly easier sell now. Nr 3. If you like iconic watches that is spacerelated but with no chronograph, then get the first watch in space Sturmanskie Gararin 3745128 brand new for about $ 400,- with the orginal same movement that was used in space in 1961 by Gararin. I think that the Omega speedmaster man on the moon should have been redesigned by only one thing. A larger crown. It is small and hard to turn. But a very beautefull watch it is. And let´s not forget. Bulova 96B251 also went to the moon when the Omega man on the moon watchs crystal came of doing a moonflight. As a backup watch Davis Schoot had his Bulova. There is a reissue of that watch too with chronograph for only about $ 500,-

Jesús. I thought I was the only guy who wears his watch on his right wrist.

Oh Omega. Ruining their brand one limited edition at a time. I have the 861 movement in mine and I guess I chose correctly. It's a man on the moon edition as it has no display caseback.

If Omega is making the 321 movement again, doesn't that mean that they will be supplying parts?

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

Kristian Gosbee In my experience they always supply parts, you can always take your vintage 321 to OMEGA and have them service the watch for you, just in a relatively high price that’s all.

@richardlord4435

4 жыл бұрын

I just sent my original 321 in & it was returned as they said it was corroded and wouldn’t service it. The movement to me looked very clean, never used it in salt atmosphere, never used it in water of any sort.

@richardlord4435

4 жыл бұрын

Was told the parts needed were not available.

I love your channel, but Captain Wally Schirra of the original Mercury 7, and the only astronaut to fly in the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs, his name is pronounced “Shih-RAW.”

Brands like Omega have to put out limited editions to appeal to collectors because the ordinary consumer doesn't have much interest in expensive mechanical watches.

This was a really great one man! Super educational and very well executed!

First, the 321 ed white, is 100% VERY limited. In fact you can't get one now unless you're willing to pay a ridiculous $20+k. I agree it's overhyped, and an outdated movement to boot. I purchased the moon watch with the 3861 movement, and it's better than all of these other movements mentioned, for half the price. I got my sapphire sandwich on a bracelet from my AD a couple months ago for $6120 OUT THE DOOR. Master chronometer, 15,000 gauss, more accurate, more shock resistant and longer service interval than the 321 or the 861. Why people paying $20+k for that is beyond me. People fall into the watch hype. Just want whatever is hot, whatever is hard to get. I wouldn't pay $10k for the anniversary series you're wearing either...

Thank you for this excellent information

In my mind, the new one IS a limited edition because so few will be able/willing to spend so much on a stainless steel watch.

@begood5652

4 жыл бұрын

Jeffery Neu I think you’d be surprised

Dont know why anyone would spend the extra $$$ for a LE. Its "exclusive" just because the manufacturer said it is. I have an original 321 and 861. So Omega said, lets change casebacks and engrave some dates on the side of the case and call it the 25th anniversary LE and charge triple the price. If you really want to own a 321, or 861, just buy used in good condition and have Omeaga do a overhaul and you'll still be 4k ahead of the game. All these re-issues and modern interpretations of the old classics just depreciates like crazy. Look at the Ploprof.

Yoh can just buy a regular speedy for 3350 new and call it a day

@ryanminaker157

3 жыл бұрын

reduced?

It might be expensive. But damn look at it. It‘s a beauty! I still love my moonwatch. But if I had the extra money I‘d flip it and get the new 321 Ed White!

@radonsmith4386

4 жыл бұрын

It looks exactly like the regular Moonwatch...

@GuyMrIncognito

4 жыл бұрын

Radon Smith no it doesn’t. The case is different, the bracelet as well, the bezel is made from ceramic (the moonwatch‘s not), faux patina / yellowish hands and indexes instead of white, diffrrnt caseback, diffrent movement.

For what should we look in your shop? It is all sold out ..... 🧐

@thetimeteller

4 жыл бұрын

We restock every week! Stay tuned for next week.

@Innotracks

4 жыл бұрын

The Time Teller ok 👌🏽

There are 2 people who want to buy a speedmaster: 1. Those who like the watch and want the latest (or relatively new) model of speedmaster because of its heritage or design and are looking at new or slightly used models. 2. Those who want *the* speedmaster model that went to the moon and are looking at vintage used models.

@michaelservetus5340

3 жыл бұрын

FYI: The Ed White Speedmaster (105.003) also "went to the moon." In fact, it is fair to say that the Ed White is the last Speedmaster that went to the moon. Gene Cernan, the last man to walk on the moon, wore his Ed White during Apollo 17; and, in fact, this new 321 Ed White was made using the actual watch Cernan wore during Apollo 17--Omega had to scan Cernan's actual watch in order to make the re-creation. Of course, the 321 Speedy Pro worn by Aldrin was the first watch worn on the moon, but let's not perpetuate the myth that the Speedy Pro was the only Speedmaster model that went to the moon. There's no such thing as "[THE] [S]peedmaster model that went to the moon." Not to your point, but it seems that one thing some Speedy Pro fans don't appreciate is that, to many people (and I'm qualifying this very carefully), the lyre lugged Speedy Pro is ugly AF. And that, conversely, the straight lugged Ed White Speedmaster (both new and old)--also with the elegant two lines of text (i.e. "Omega Speedmaster" rather than "Omega Speedmaster Professional") on the dial--is exactly right and beautiful to the eye. So, for those of us who don't like lyre-lugged Speedy Pros at any price, but LOVE the Ed White, the argument that a better choice would be a Speedy Pro model at a much cheaper price is kind of a non sequitur. It's a little like someone who loves the color blue taking the position that those who love only the color green should instead be happy with blue. People out there saying they "don't get" why anyone would pay so much for this new 321 Ed White (laying aside that it has a gold 321 movement being assembled by a sole expert of the movement) sound kind of silly to me. Sounds like, why would you want a Porsche when this four-door Hyundai which is a classic tool car is tens of thousands of dollars cheaper and can fit more people? Or like, why would you pay three times as much for pizza from this other pizzeria when you can get a Little Caesars pizza for only $5? It comes down to personal taste. Although the cost is of course always something to be seriously considered, for some, it is not always the most important factor. People like what they like, and, to me, it is not helpful for others to chime in that they "don't get" why anyone would pay so much money for the new 321 Ed White when you can buy an iconic Speedy Pro Moonwatch for thousands less. It really is comparing apples to oranges.

@michaelservetus5340

3 жыл бұрын

My comment was not intended to assert that the Ed White Speedmaster worn by Cernan during Apollo 17 was the only Speedmaster he wore during the mission, or that it was THE last Speedmaster that went to the moon.

Time will tell (pun not intended). My bet is that the new 321 will be a massive collectible hit selling well above $14,100 once released. Omega can only make so many, so production limitations will keep these scarce. I don’t find the price far outside comparable iconic watches store from other brands....

It absolutely is... but other than the price it’s goddamn perfect

The price is a little insane but whatever. I think the master chronometer speedy is the best anyway. Even that’s getting too expensive