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I've been lied to for years... but never bought the lies... FUD is real.... and such a freat way to describe it.... changes your view for all news you digest... thanks for beating the drum, Zach and Jesse! More eyes need to be opened!
Some good points. Thanks for keeping a level head instead of panic and keep a long term outlook.
I'm glad you "coughed" Electrek. I used to subscribe to them, but stopped when Fred Lambert started going anti-Tesla in his stories. I still hear about his slanted stories from you guys every now and then. Pro EV is fine and dandy. But keep opinions on the editorial page, not the front page.
@mikapeltokorpi7671
Ай бұрын
There is a clear trend of 'the woke' / progressive tubers ditching Tesla. It emerged about six months ago. Or at least they are clearly showing sharper criticism towards the company now. Not an insignificant trend, IMO.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
@@mikapeltokorpi7671. "imo" you have zero idea of the meaning of "woke" and that you link it with "progressive" simply marks you as "easily led". . (Look up the term "progressive" as well?) . You would no doubt categorise me as both, however, I consider myself "aware" ("woke") of the clumsy tactics being used. And "Progressive" in wanting the technology and the energy transition to succeed. . As such I have absolutely zero intention of "ditching" Tesla. . I do however question your actions which seem designed to divide those in support of the company. THAT is the "significant trend". What's YOUR motive?
@mikapeltokorpi7671
Ай бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 I am just saying, that many EV/Tesla focused channels have been recently harshly critical to Tesla (and Musk). Which those channels did not do before, but instead were rather openly fawning to Musk/Tesla. Mere observation.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
@@mikapeltokorpi7671 That wasn't what you were "just saying" . You incorrectly classified a group, trying to add political(?) slant. . My point was that your understanding (or perception) of the terms you used is itself incorrect. .
@mikapeltokorpi7671
Ай бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Ah, now I (probably) get it. Maybe my sarcasm towards MAGA was not that obvious there and 'the woke' could have left out from the previous message - and mentioned progressives there, only. Sorry for that. BTW: Elektrek has identified himself as progressive.
I looked around for in depth reporting on youtube about Tesla early on and found the NowYouKnow channel, so recognized the FUD for what it is and what motivates it when I was contemplating getting a Model S but couldn't justify paying the down payment on a pretty big house for a car. I was already suspicious of the oil cartel and the auto dealer networks because of the turn of the century / millennium GM EV1 debacle, so was primed to distrust propaganda about the alleged impracticality of EVs. It took a year or so to convince my wife that the Tesla Model 3 was so much better than any other car on the market in 2018-19 that it was worth paying almost double what we paid for our 2006 Toyota Camry to get what turned out to be hands down the best car I ever owned or drove by pretty much every imaginable criterion.
I showed my brother the font change that drove the headline to recall 2 million teslas.
@Zextraterrestrial
Ай бұрын
such a joke of a "recall' - all cars were pretty much all updated before any FUD article came out about it even!
I am getting a lot of tesla adds on KZread now.
Thanks Zach and Jessie. Keep on fighting the good fight. My eyes opened in 2019. The most evil thing is that people believe 'the news' is there to inform them and that is why they are getting abused and disinformed.
I was never misled because i learned about the company and i looked at the evidence. Been a fan for about ten years but i know one person who falls victim to it very often. I hope someday to afford my dream Tesla which is a Red or Blue Model Y long range
I think some of my comments have been taken down on the NYK channel. These two channels, NYK and disruptive investing, are why I have invested in Climatize, Tesla and EnergyX. I hope Tesla self driving is going to be as good as you guys say it is. The visualizations on my model 3 make me feel pessimistic about full self driving.
Great video. I have taken 64 people for test drives in my Model 3 over three years. I discuss Tesla with anyone who asks me. Owners defeat the FUD as you suggest. Thanks for your hard work on the channel.
As an Uber driver with a MX I can attest to the power of FUD and how easy it is to remove the blinders people put up. Keep up the good work Zak & Jesse!
This actually happened in 2019 in the big 3000% upward a share price, FUD was keeping the stuck price low for so long that it overpressured and exploded. This will happen but to a lesser degree soon when the reality becomes evident to everyone whith a catalist, may be the bankrupt of a legacy auto company or FSD becoming Alpha.
I was told I could get a Cybertruck for $39,990.
@francoischarbonneau9447
Ай бұрын
Yes in 2025
@Dularr
Ай бұрын
@@francoischarbonneau9447 the 2025 single motor is now $60,000.
@Zextraterrestrial
Ай бұрын
told by whom? I think you are lying or forget what definitions of words actually mean. no price promises were ever made
@Dularr
Ай бұрын
@@Zextraterrestrial Tesla, I put down a $100 deposit for the $39,990 single motor Cybertruck. I was considering upgrading to the 49,990 duel motor. Either way, I was going to add FSD at 12,000.
We need to compile all the exposed FUD crap such as Teslas catching fire, Musk not paying taxes etc That would be a long list.
100% safe and effective FUD
It will be a "bloodbath"
One good thing about the Tesla FUD. It depresses the stock price. We can load up now before it explodes
Holy crap.... they work their employees in Shanghai 6 1/2 days a week !!?!?!?! Wow. Talk about the need for a union.
There's been a lot of Tesla FUD - A LOT ... but idk if I would have used that article as my example... the downgrades aren't coming coz of that, they're coming coz or TSLA IR meeting with analysts in Austin a few weeks back. That data will get released this Friday/Saturday.
In Mexico they call them “Cartel”. In America its called “the media and the swamp”
I still have people trying to feed me lies about Tesla. They won't charge in cold weather, the battery has to be replaced at great expense every 5yrs or you can't use them for longer trips. It's tiring to try and convince them that it's FUD, but as a Tesla investor I at least try to point them to truth. Thanks for being a source of TRUTH!
@keon3155
Ай бұрын
My 2013 model s drops in range a lot at night when it's cold outside. My battery died and had to be replaced for 10k, my motor died and had to be replaced for about 5k. I save about 5k a year for the free supercharging. Had the car for about 5 years so about a total of 25k savings on charging. I would say the money saved paid for the repairs. Idk. I wouldn't get another car again unless it somehow is better than Tesla. I've convinced a few people to get a Tesla. It's the best car I've ever owned.. and it's just a 2013 model s single motor.
Do you know about the stop "B"urning "S"tuff? From the fully charged / everything electric?
@nathansuss
Ай бұрын
Great channel
@grantdaly6975
Ай бұрын
I'm a patreon supporter. They do a great job (in the UK at least) fighting FUD.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
Bobby does seem to have fallen for "Elon Bad"
👏👏👏👍👍
Some people don't like EV cars, or FSD, they just prefer to drive.
If you check Tesla weekly China registrations (public source), it has been averaging 25% (20..33% depending on a week) below 2023 figures ever since the US informed it will block Chinese EV sales in the US. I do not think, that it is a coincindence.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
Chinese Teslas aren't sold in the US.
@mikapeltokorpi7671
Ай бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 No, but that up to 150 000 not sold Teslas in 2024 will impact to Tesla's bottom line.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
@@mikapeltokorpi7671 "Chinese registrations" and "Shanghai production" are not the same number. .
listening to the lies on CNBC helped me find truthful information elsewhere.
They are only cheaper if you charge at home in UK the kw prices at fast chargers ridiculous
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
Specify? . A ballpark figure of the *most expensive* Tesla charger at 53p with a pessimistic (Tesla) 3m/ kWh , compared to a diesel price of £1.51/ litre (London, cheap station, this week) puts a 40mpg ICE at 70% more expensive. (And that's just for fuel) . Of course if you want to choose a less efficient EV, use the most expensive chargers (why would you?) and hypermile a diesel, you might fiddle a negative bias.... (Note that I downgraded the Tesla figure from the recognised (better) consumption of 4+m/kWh, took the *highest* priced peak time Supercharger (normally circa 40p) and improved the Diesel consumption (My regular consumption as a Modeo business driver was 32-36 mpg doing "actual work") . (Oh... The diesel price, my local Sainsbury's, always the cheapest in the area)
@ISuperTed
Ай бұрын
47p drop-in at a Supercharger locally for me, 39p Tesla member. That’s still cheaper than petrol.
Nobody wants his cars any more, that's not FUD, its reality
How do we fix this problem of FUD
@nathansuss
Ай бұрын
By simply speaking the truth
@hederahelix622
Ай бұрын
Get him off of twitter
@whodatcatt
Ай бұрын
By continuing to walk away from MSM and turning to ethical sources such as these men.
@hederahelix622
Ай бұрын
@@whodatcatt Tesla is down 53% from its high. There's nothing ethical about losing half of your money
@hederahelix622
Ай бұрын
@@whodatcatt Tesla is down 53% from its high. There's nothing ethical about losing half of your money
It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled, but when they DO realize they've been fooled, the backlash will be extreme
Failure. The noun.
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@Nicolewhit
Ай бұрын
As a beginner, it's essential for you to have a mentor to keep you accountable. I'm guided by a widely known crypto consultant
@Nicolewhit
Ай бұрын
Mrs Mary Gail Benner
@Doreenfreundt
Ай бұрын
Please educate me. I've come across this name before and now am interested
@Nicolewhit
Ай бұрын
She's mostly on Telegram, using the username.
@Nicolewhit
Ай бұрын
Premhel👈 That's her username.
Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword
@nathansuss
Ай бұрын
Double edged swords are better than single edged ones
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
Don't confuse "freedom of speech" with "truth" . There *should not* be "freedom to lie". THAT should have consequences for those engaging in the act.
Teslas weakness is going to be competition once automakers finally figure it out and they will. Once there are better options they will find it harder to sell. They are going to need to rely on other revenue than the cars. The US wants SUVs and you can call a model Y an SUV all you want, it’s not it’s a crossover at best
@whodatcatt
Ай бұрын
Been hearing this forever Once the competition comes…… Teslas doomed China maybe but anyone else. 😂
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
@rob8969 . So... Step 1: Figure "it" out, to the extent that the technology "you" have (ALL of it) is better than that produced by Tesla. . Step 2: Combine that technology into designs which you feel be "competitive" . Step 3: Finalise production plans, where necessary converting/ building factories. . Step 4: Finesse production, then ramp to profitable numbers, selling every vehicle. . The problems? . You're building or buying in (coughporscherimaccough) technology which you hope will both work and still be "cutting edge" as you launch the vehicle. Then just as you announce plans there's a leak/ official release from Tesla detailing ...... Updates to FSD Or Octovalve Or casting technology Or 48v architecture Or new production methods ("unboxed".... Toyota facepalm the same week as they described the current Model Y as a masterpiece?) . These immediately render your "competitive technology" if not obsolete, "mediocre". . *The assumption "Tesla will wait for us" is incorrect* . Then there's the fact that Tesla is building not "vehicles" but "the system". Vehicles are just a means to the end goal of "Energy Transition" (ref Master Plan 2006.... The one everyone ignored?) They are combining the vehicles with the charging system (PLUS, as will soon become apparent, the ENERGY system). If others do manage to: . SURVIVE to the point of producing those compelling vehicles. And They are "competitive" And They arrive in numbers sufficient to move the needle. AND There are enough examples from various sources to take significant share... . Then there's a pretty good chance that some (the majority?) will be running some form of Tesla software and or other systems. . That they may be running a taxi fleet on the Tesla model (the REAL endgame isn't "building/ selling vehicles" it's "Running, maintaining and refurbishing the fleet"!) . That they will be charging on equipment built by Tesla (operated by those companies?) . That they will "fill up" with energy from Tesla Megapacks (at a "good" price to keep charging costs low, but still a profit for Tesla) ..... As for "the US wants SUVs" . Well... "The US" isn't "the global market" and fashions change. . Don't be surprised if kids born today laugh at their parents/ Grandparents for ever owning a car. . When you have "a vehicle" of the size and type you require arrive where you are, when you want it to take you anywhere at minimal cost, why would you "own" one?
Personally, I always take investment advice from people with a vested interest in a company's success. I never listen to the news and ignore facts because facts are fud from evil big oil, big auto, etc who just hate Elon. I prefer alternative facts. 😂
@jasjordan1
Ай бұрын
Well, good luck with that.
Nice report. Also… orange man bad, Biden down 30+ points on every issue but election still too close to call,
@nathansuss
Ай бұрын
Yup lol. Orange man bad. Elon bad.
@alexmckenna1171
Ай бұрын
Good thing is Toad is now selling bibles to his followers. At 59 dollars or so. Wonder where he got them? Still his gang still love him. Like Hitler's supporters adored their Leader even until the day he shot himself.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
Yep... Using the flawed logic of "We know Elon not really bad.... So Orange man also not bad" . Chalk and cheese.
@nathansuss
Ай бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 or it could just be the same propaganda from the same media 😑 use your own head to decide what you think Me personally: Cheese and cheese
Elon is massively supporting these FUD generators with his „free speech“ policy on X.
You guys come across as fanboys.
Don't waste your time on this video.
It’s pretty standard in journalism to keep your sources protected, especially if they’re not authorized to speak publicly on it. Using this to justify Bloomberg’s article as “FUD” leads me to believe you guys have reach a point where you’ve drunk all of Elon’s kool-aid, and refuse to deliver honest news. Something isn’t “FUD” because you don’t like it, or it’s negative. I know you guys are passionate and enthusiastic about Tesla, but if you can’t open your eyes and see Elon and his companies for what they are (not a techno-future hyper dream), then you guys are a lost cause. Makes me ashamed to say that I’m no longer a fan. But I guess anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a “troll” that you just remove. The decline in viewership on Now You Know makes a lot more sense.
@rogerstarkey5390
Ай бұрын
It *WAS* "pretty standard Journalism" to protect sources.... Occasionally. . BUT it's become standard practice to use the phrase as a tactic to .... "gather opinion" (regurgitate the same unconfirmed piece around tens of outlets) resulting in a "backslapping" narrative of "everyone says so, therefore it must be true" . (But ONLY in *your* bubble!)) . The "fact" is, these unsubstantiated opinion pieces rarely match the actual "truth" (data) which emerges months later. . What they DO is skew opinion among the uninformed and lazy, . It would be *more difficult* to "justify"(classify?) the Bloomberg "article" as FUD *IF* a growing proportion of their output wasn't already *proven* to be so (as in "not found to be correct as events unfold"). ..... "If you don't like something" or there's a "negative" comment, the *correct* action is surely to point out "I don't like that.... *BECAUSE* " and provide logical, reasonable argument to the contrary? . Isn't that what happened here? . On that subject... I'd love to hear *your* opinion on "what Elons' companies are"? . ("Techno-future hyper dream" isn't a valid answer) . Maybe if you read the 2006 Master Plan, then consider the progress so far, you might recognise that those goals are being achieved?. As in not "a dream", more fulfilled targets despite "opposition" (FUD😉) from those with vested interest" . (1 request.... If you DO read the Plan..... Don't tell anyone!! ) . Personally, I doubt you were ever "a fan"... . As for viewership... You're still here!!! 👍 (Maybe you're seen as an easy target? Not of consequence? Irrelevant? A purveyor of FUD?)
@daimanwebb8422
Ай бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 oh brother, another delusion brainwashed Elon fanboy… My “opinion” on what Elon’s companies are is as follows: Tesla is a car company with some artificial intelligence. They’ve been up you for battery installations, but down yoy for solar installations. This mythos Elon has propped up that Tesla is “10 companies in 1” is exaggerated. Tesla Solar, Tesla batteries, Tesla bot, Tesla FSD, are all technologies whose capabilities are exaggerated. Zach and Jesse bought it hook line and sinker. And guess what? We still don’t have FSD. We still don’t have solar & grid scale batteries at scale. None of the promises that gave this company a 1 trillion dollar market cap a couple years ago was based on anything but Elon’s word. And we know what that’s worth now. It’s very sad to see his fanboys defending him to the ends of the earth, but seriously, are we going to pretend that Elon is still the mega genius billionaire we thought he was? Open your eyes.