Some folks don't charge anywhere but at home for yrs at a time.

@mikapeltokorpi7671

2 ай бұрын

Plus this is quite a competitive area of business. Though sales margin has been relatively high. It is like EV drivers would not care about gas being $12 per gallon (if they would use gas).

@chandlerautomotiverepair573

2 ай бұрын

THATS ALL I DO===SOLAR POWERED MILEAGE

@ISuperTed

2 ай бұрын

In the UK, 30% of households don’t have the ability to charge at home, so the market here will never be as big as the petrol station market. It will always be a mix of home, destination (work etc.) and public charging and Tesla Superchargers will only be a percentage of that last category, even if they open all of them to non-Teslas. It may be different in other countries, but I think we’re over-egging the profits this will generate, there will be lots of competition, certainly in Europe.

@michaelmcnally2331

2 ай бұрын

@@ISuperTedit is actually higher then that. pro EV people will bang on about 70% of people have off road parking. Well I have off road parking, a designated parking bay the other side of the road from my 1st floor flat. However as I have off road parking then I am part of that 70% that have off road parking even though no access to home charging. What is the worst thing is that nobody is working on how to overcome this and is only 11 years away, with the less well off people having to pay more for there EV mileage as only access commercial charging vs home charging. Is one of the reason why get the charge against them of being rich peoples toys. Yes the purchase price of the EV is coming down but not at the commercial charging points. Local superstore is 44p a kWh on a 7kw charger. Octopus EV tariff current,y 7.5p or 6 times cheaper. Renault austral self charging hybrid 600mile range (yes I do get that not the claimed 680) at 39995 vs 54k for a model y long range. That 14k pays a lot of fuel and servicing. If I could home charge then 95% of motoring could do from home and back without needing to charge away from home amd would have an EV now rather then. Self charging hybrid. If someone comes up with a solution to allow apartments/flats to home charge that will be the real breakthrough in EV adoption.

@geemy9675

Ай бұрын

​@@mikapeltokorpi7671 plus manufacturing chargers can be scaled and automated like cars but building a charging network means also buying/ leasing, maintaining. it's a longer term business since you need years to get ROI vs pumping cars from a factory, that are already reserved with near 100% to deliver cars within weeks after manufacturing (with tesla lean management). when it comes to covering loosely populated areas land is not expensive but they are still building chargers at a loss to allow Teslas to drive anywhere. once Tesla considers all major roads are covered they may start to think about the quality of the locations rather than pure quantity. ideally a charge is located on cheap land, with easy access to high power lines, cheap electricity, a lot of EV traffic but spread as evenly as possible over time. locations that r'have high peaks of usage on rare occasions (holiday seasons) but very low occupancy the rest of the year are not the best investment.

I got a 1000 shares and feeling no hurt, only excitement !!!

@Kepiwhoo

2 ай бұрын

We have 1040 to the moon!!!!!

Tesla’s membership reminds me of the Costco model. You pay a yearly fee and get to buy cheaper foods and other things. Tesla’s membership club enables non Tesla drivers to get lower charging rates. Heh.. the future the future is rushing towards us at breakneck speeds!😮😮😊

@travisjazzbo3490

2 ай бұрын

Given the fact the EV industry is supposed to be far, far less maintenance, which is a boon for the ICE industry, I can totally see a more Costco or Amazon type of subscription for all of the services Tesla will continue to bring. It makes a lot of sense

I own Tesla stock, I am waiting, not hurting.

@ecospider5

2 ай бұрын

@Christine_perkin What are Tesla innovation shares? Are you talking about the ark innovation fund?

@ecospider5

2 ай бұрын

I’m selling a ton of my Tesla shares. And I am buying 2026 call options. I have no doubt Tesla will go over $200 with in 18 months. If tesla goes to $150 I will sell 25% of my current holdings.

@tellyboy17

2 ай бұрын

As the bubble deflates you will hurt eventually and the fact that Tesla is throwing its unique selling point: exclusive access to the excellent Supercharger network to the dogs won't help you either.

@fredpsimas1874

2 ай бұрын

Buying more as I wait

@michaelberger6699

2 ай бұрын

I'll​@@tellyboy17

As a Tesla share holder since 2015 onwards. I’m definitely not hurting. I’m still 10x my original investment. It’s not hard to hold on to tesla shares today, for Tesla to get to 2K per share by 2027. Tesla shares are a bargain today at the current price. 👍🏻👍🏻

@BrodyXondar

2 ай бұрын

Keep dreaming 😴

@andrerodriguez7603

2 ай бұрын

@@BrodyXondar dreams do come to, to positive thinkers. Negative people as yourself, dreams seldom come true.

Love your shows. Watch them everyday in LA.

Virtually every Tesla owner already pays $10.00 per month for premium connectivity which gives satellite maps and other benefits. Tesla has always charged for this. However Tesla owners do not pay for supercharger subscription because well, we bought Tesla cars.

@iamworthy1302

2 ай бұрын

I use my hotspot

@icosthop9998

2 ай бұрын

Nice

@melissasmess2773

2 ай бұрын

Supercharger has historically cost money, if you purchase a used Tesla.

@iFALCONproductionz

2 ай бұрын

U should try bmw mercedes

@andreasl4507

2 ай бұрын

10$ aint much as all

Actually Tesla has over 21,000 superchargers. Non Tesla owners only get access to around 15,000 of them. The other 6,000 or so are for Tesla vehicles only.

@lawrenceasero2207

2 ай бұрын

But the ones not open to non-Teslas are the 150 kWh chargers.

@p.t.9709

2 ай бұрын

@@lawrenceasero2207And I think those locations that have a very high utilization rate resulting in frequent congestion are excluded as well.

@caseyk2366

2 ай бұрын

Actually there are 16,000 stalls open to the non Teslas now and the non Teslas will not have access to the V2 chargers since those don't have the hardware to communicate to the CCS cars.

2:55 The Ford Lightening is taking up 2 spots.

What an incredible way to advertise the brand. Every EV owner charging. Seeing the Tesla name on the most reliable chargers. Surrounded by a whole bunch of beautiful Tesla cars. How many are going to buy a Tesla next time? I wonder how many people got Netflix subscriptions after watching a Netflix show at the home of a friend or family member.

@melissasmess2773

2 ай бұрын

😂

@debeeriz

2 ай бұрын

@@melissasmess2773 l did and it was $10 now its $28 and neflix does not have a monopoly

@AeschylusShepherd

2 ай бұрын

Tesla EV’s are ugly and poorly made.

I own Tesla stock and I'm hurting! I'm hurting coz I've got no more cash left to buy more Tesla stock while it's on such great discount. 😭😭😭

The carbon credits are paying for new factory construction. What a great deal for Tesla.

@sparkysho-ze7nm

2 ай бұрын

Suks to be Tesla HA

@timothykeith1367

2 ай бұрын

Carbon credits are a window into the green scam. There is no CO2 crisis, and if there was, then a "credit" to deal with a planet ending crisis is silly. A carbon credit is like the Medieval indulgences of the Catholic Church - which I think stll exist. "The earth can't be destroyed because I have carbon credits". Says who?

@icosthop9998

2 ай бұрын

Yes

@chillfluencer

2 ай бұрын

Well...legacy auto wants to stay with old combustion tech, falls behind and damages environment as well as our health...therefore them having to pay is the proper thing to do. They are basically like an old person in an old peoples' home who has to pay for all services before she dies.

I just doubled down on TSLA last week! 👍😛

Why wouldn't I pay for a recurring fee for a service I may only use once or twice a year? Yeah, maybe I'm not the market for it, but I am glad it exists.

Frickin' BRILLIANT - Tesla is the NEW Gillette Razor Company - Gillette didn't make all the shaver's blade holders but SOLD ALL the blades - by the MILLIONS each month. Tesla won't make ALL the EVs but they will make money with EVERY EV CHARGE - MILLIONS each month.

@melissasmess2773

2 ай бұрын

8% of the market still 😂

I’m all in on Tesla, the ludicrously low price of the stock is irritating, not painful…I have every confidence that the stock will skyrocket in the next couple or three years as all the catalysts engage…Model 2, Roadster, FSD, Charging, energy storage, AI…..patience is what separates the wealthy from the poor!

There are multiple charger networks in Europe and they all ask an amount per month. Some people have up to 4 or 5 cards (and monthly fees) to be able to chose a charger point nearby while travelling around. Mostly for business use (sales reps, etc.).

What about Aussie Mach E owners when will they be able to use Tesla chargers here ?

Great content 👍

10 billion sounded a bit big to me, but $ 10 billion per year / $ 156 per year = 64 million cars. That's probably about a third of all cars in the US. Now seems doable!

Let's hope it comes to Australia !

Not all supercharger stations are universally open

That music at the end of the video is 🔥.

Solar panels are now practically free. Add 1000 watts PER HOUR for $500 US...about $50 per 100 watt panel including shipping from China. Just bought 12 more.

Wait 'till they start licensing FSD 😋

@kenth151

2 ай бұрын

Keep waiting.

Battery tech keeps going, the CATL lfp is improving with a 'series 2' offering 10-15 minute charging from 0-85%. A LFP series 3 is in development for 10 minute 100% charging. This will also increase distance 15%+. So the 'Gas Station fillup' will be possible soon.

AS Thomas Edison designed and built an electric system, Tesla will do the same, it is a system, vehicle, maintenance, insurance, charging, Megapacks, powerwall, solar, compute power (services), robotics, communication, security, air-conditioning (climate control). The first ten trillion dollar company.

@orbitaljellyfish808

2 ай бұрын

Ironically, Edison was for the large scale distribution of DC current Tesla vehicles get from short range chargers And Tesla was for the AC current that ended up in the electric grid, as it’s the only way to efficiently distribute mass amounts of wattage long-range

Keep in mind a gas car at 30 miles per gallon and $3 per gallon is 10 cents per mile. An EV paying more than 40 cents per KWH is equal to this. Hopefully they understand this when pricing per KWH. ( even charging at home, Duke energy claims we are paying 13.4 cents per KWH but in actuality we are paying about 18 cents per KWH when you add in the basic customer charge, the energy charge, the renewable energy rider, and sales tax. ) ( That equals about $5K savings of using an EV over 100000 miles, not including extra tax paid on EV during yearly registration ) Maybe a little more savings on EV if you consider oil changes on the ICE car.

Sam, whoever produces your videos is awesome.

Maybe for the usa but electric prices at fast chargers in my county are insane. Way cheaper to just tank petrol and that is with huge Excise duties on top the price.

Tesla must be about to rapidly roll out a lot more superchargers to accommodate the increased availability for electric vehicles.

@justinr9753

2 ай бұрын

Right now they sell more than all of them combined so they need more for more Teslas more

Tesla will open a month free trial on FSD next week which is bullish on the progress

@Secondwind2010

2 ай бұрын

Where China ?

@PolineChan

2 ай бұрын

@@Secondwind2010 all us cars

@josephbradford5930

2 ай бұрын

Amigo, can you answer this? I want to trial FSD 12, but I'm not interested in trialing FSD 11. Can I know what I'm getting before I click the "yes" button?

@jordan0chang

2 ай бұрын

That would be awesome. I'll be hooked

@Gr1mPenguin

2 ай бұрын

More than that, Elon wants FSD to be demoed during every new car delivery, even if that slows down the process

Watch for Tesla's growth in 2025 and in 2026. It has a lot of irons in the fire...

@robertfonovic3551

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but some may be too hot to remove.

We have an R1T. Can't wait to get our DC adapter to charge at Superchargers.

Great that Ford owners get access but what about charging port locations causing EV owners to block a second charger. This problem has not been solved.

In many European countries the superchargers are opened to all but I am not sure that it is used so much because we have many other brands of superchargers. Some networks are from Shell, BP or Electric companies. There ia competition which makes the Tesla network not so attraktive.

Good can they put covers over the supercharger spot... yet?

Agree

If you hodl, it doesn’t matter. Let’s wait and see in 10-20 years. I hodl since 2015.

Many (not all) of us charge at home or other level 2 chargers and only occasionally DC charge. We won’t be purchasing a subscription from Tesla. The capital costs for DC charging make it unlikely ANY company can be profitable selling electric power to EV drivers.

Look at the dual Tesla magic dock chargers in Brooklyn NY. There is always a wait per my Tesla app. I disagree that subscription from non Teslas will be big. If you charge at home you rarely supercharge. If and when all cars are BEV’s then that might be a different story.

This is a really big deal

I bought a Ford lightning last week. The Tesla adapter has a 6-8 month wait to receive it.

However, sadly, the way the world works these days as they would eventually be sued as a monopoly down the line

@user-de1fu4vi9s

2 ай бұрын

And when this happens the company usually gets split into multiple really good companies. Invest in all of them.

My thought is add in some v4 chargers at each location and charge more for that speed and convenience.

Tesla should only make the charging cables a bit longer for better acces to other vehicles 😂

Bring it to the UK!

It is not the entire supercharger network. Far from it. Do you still not do any research at all?

Hi Sam, it’s ironic all these car makers laughed at tesla when he started building cars and dismissed him as not being a threat. Who’s had the last laugh now when they can’t do the transition without him.

Every regular person knows that EVs are a pain if you don't use it for long trips. That is why PHEV sales have soared.

Regardless of anyone’s opinion on this it’s already deeply priced into the stock. There is no news here that would move the stock price.

The failure in Chicago was not a failure of the Chargers it was a failure by the Humans who didn’t set the battery system to prewarm the battery in freezing conditions

@danharold3087

2 ай бұрын

I recall there was one location where the antifreeze in the chargers was not concentrated enough.

@BrodyXondar

2 ай бұрын

It’s not that, a lot of them were Uber and waited with heat on others to charge their cars

@TheBooban

2 ай бұрын

Isn’t there a warning that the driver should pre warm if he starts the car in the cold?

@tedmoss

2 ай бұрын

Check any failure, there are always multiple reasons for them. 99% of failures are caused by people.

@tedmoss

2 ай бұрын

@@TheBooban It is automatic if you put your destination as the charger.

American OEM brands won’t have access to ALL Superchargers. Tesla is being selective. They’ll have access to 16,000 out of over 20,000. And the 20,000 is growing rapidly.

Ford does not have access to the whole charging network. They can’t charge at the older 150kw chargers.

-- the question is which oil conglomerate is going to attempt to buy Tesla charging and for how much 😮

Tesla has so many different opportunities for huge growth that only require some time and patience to see the payoff. I think most people don’t have that patience but if you have faith that the company has a very strong foundation then you know it’s not if, but when you will multiply your investment.

Tesla has started selling unbranded superchargers. I think BP has a super large order to outfit their gas stations with.

So do we know why Musk laid off all the staff related to charging network?

I want access to Tesla chargers in England. Come on Musk do it please.

To be honest I have only used a public charger once in ten years and it was a free charger which is also the case for the majority of EV owners I know since most charge at their homes/apartments using the free courtesy charger that comes with the car. Tesla won't be earning that 10 billion from most of the folks I know driving EV's. Joe and Jane Average will find most of the time they won't need to use a Public Charger with many having no need for years to come so these charging network fears many hype up aren't that real for that large a crowd of drivers. I tend to take some analysts reports with a grain of salt since many say outrageous things. Just today one analyst put out that Fisker's problems are due to lack of price parity between EV's, Hybrids and ICE vehicles resulting in EV sales declines which has been well proven to be untrue yet that is what the investment community is being told by these "Analysts" Tesla turning on the switch is indeed good news for drivers venturing out of range of home along with good business for Tesla though not every EV driver will need it very often. Best!

I’m certainly not hurting because I own Tesla stock. I just wish I had more “dry powder” with which to buy.

Just bought a VW ID4. They discounted the carp out of it and I got 3 years of free charging at EA. Been to EA four times, was only able to charge one time, THEY SUK BAD. So what is going to happen? As soon a the Tesla network is open to all BEVs, the other networks will never be used and disappear. By 2026 Tesla will be the only charging network out there. They better get extra busy building charging stalls or there are going to be long lines.

This is why NIO will be successful, they have sighed 3 major players in China to use there battery swapping stations for a fee. And there supposed to announce any day now a major player is gonna Sighn up to use all NIO swap stations and fit there cars to fit NIO swap stations. NIO actually in China has more chargers than any other company and they are already profitable with there chargers.lets face it with all the price cuts these EV’ cars margins are shrinking so bad there’s no profit left. Only the companies that are making money other ways will survive like what NIO and Tesla are doing

No way I will go long on Tesla, I may short it instead, looks like it's going down to me, The SAR is about to flip on the monthly chart and it's way blow the MMA.

Question, if it’s that cold why doesn’t the software automatically preheat when the operator selects run. Annoying maybe but no damage done.

@davidlloyd1526

2 ай бұрын

I imagine that you are correct... and this problem is already fixed. It was a screw-up, but fixable. There will be more problems that also need fixing. This is the life of the early-adopter.

Cheers mate

That Lightning is blocking TWO spots. Tesla should require rear left charging port from all manufacturers if they want access to Superchargers.

@douglaswatt1582

2 ай бұрын

Left front and right rear have the same geometry in terms of placement in a charging stall. Either one works.

@justinr9753

2 ай бұрын

It's cheaper for me to drive a 15 MPG F-150 so I doubt they are going to be lining up to charge there anyways. I agree with you but remember it's a 2 way road, imagine being in an F-150 at a busy spot waiting on 2 chargers to open - lol

So if I purchased a Tesla a year ago with the promise that Tesla's chargers were an exclusive benefit, would I be upset going to a Tesla charge station to find it full of Ford lightnings?

@douglaswatt1582

2 ай бұрын

Do you think Tesla can't add? They are constantly figuring out where they need to build new superchargers based on usage and demand. We have seen an explosion of superchargers along Route 95 on our route from New England to Florida which we've driven every year for 6 years. The most we've ever had to wait has been 3 to 4 minutes, and that's only been twice in 6 years. So the notion that all of a sudden everybody's going to be waiting for a long time to get a stall is bs. More FUD

For the big three auto makers to be making lots of electric vehicles by 2030 would be a surprise as most incumbents go out of business and don’t make the transition so I don’t think Tesla will be earning all these charging fees as predicted by the analyst

That Apple playbook. Growth slows down, start looking for the rent, the rent, the rent! Release something and call it new! All else fails, name drop that Al. Doesn't hurt my feelings, if it works, it works!

Ok. But why are they paying Tesla?

Dear Viking, can you please clean the smudge on your wall behind you? I have just been cleaning my screen frantically thinking it has to been scratched somehow but can't feel any.. Then I found out it only appeared with you on the screen. haha, I feel stupid now.

@RandyP-jr1ek

Ай бұрын

Yes! I kept scrolling my screen! Please fix it Now!!!!

Morning Mate

👍👍

Tesla owners will now have to wait at charging stations the same way others have been waiting at theirs until now.

While this will generate some cash for Tesla it undermines the one uncontestable that Tesla had in vehicle sales, especially in pickup trucks.

@veikovasko5603

2 ай бұрын

additional revenue will speed up charging network expansion, so having few extra cars there will not be as big an issue as people think. Over 2/3 of EVs in US are Teslas, so even if every other EV started to charge at supercharger overnight, it would not be as dramatic increase as people think.

@Miata822

2 ай бұрын

@@veikovasko5603 You miss that 2/3 of EVs in the US are Teslas BECAUSE of Tesla's charging network. Most of the existing Superchargers are 400v max. Most of the best EVs being made charge better at 8-900V, and more are on the way. Billions in government funding is building out more charging, mostly 1,000V 350kW stations. Tesla needs to upgrade its network.

no thanks i enjoy free charging in Australia sucks to be in America.

Minuscule impact to overall revenue. FSD is where the big cash will be. It’s coming….

Buy and hold, Warren Buffets key to making Billions !

Eventually, the govt will step in and stop Tesla from charging more for non Tesla cars. The same thing happened with Microsoft & currently Apple are getting dragged through the mill.

@MauriceOldis

2 ай бұрын

there is a big role for government here

@douglaswatt1582

2 ай бұрын

Rubbish. Apple is getting raked over the coals because of antitrust violations. Subscription plans are not an antitrust violation. Otherwise Costco and for that matter Netflix would be guilty of antitrust violations. Do you understand that distinction? Apparently not.

@paulmcgreevy3011

2 ай бұрын

Then those companies must pay their fair share of building the infrastructure

Tesla invested the time, reaearch effort, installion effort and all the costs associated with those things to get the network up & running AND well-maintained. In my book, that makes them absolutely entitled to bill non-Tesla, non-membership users a 30% premium. I would've made it a 50% premium if it had been my decision. 😉

has anybody heard anything new about Hyundai access to Superchargers? Last I got was early 95. also, what is the current price tesla owners pay per kwh? thanks. always a great program

@AllDogsAreGoodDogs

2 ай бұрын

Early 95?

@melissasmess2773

2 ай бұрын

45 cents in California for a supercharger.

"All cars will eventually be electric. " Sure, Sam, keep dreaming...

Why would I buy Tesla when I can now buy DJT?

What are carbon credits???

@kng128

2 ай бұрын

Legacy auto manufacturers pay Tesla hundreds of millions each to offset the carbon consumption their fleet produces. It totaled $1.78 billion revenue for Tesla in 2023.

2 million cars x 30 km per day x 365 x 10c profit is 2 billion profit a year if 2 m non Tesla cars by 2030. Plus 300 million on Tesla app membership

Tesla is SO far ahead of the rest, there is no race, only for 2nd place.

Tesla not a growth story? Are you kidding me?

$6-$12 billion dollars from $13 dollars per subscription. That doesn’t sound accurate.

@caseyryan-hannum2545

2 ай бұрын

Lets see. If 38.5 million people paid the $13 subscription, that would equal 6 billion per year. Of course that's not counting the cost for the electricity. (Not sure what that comes out to) but I'd think it would be more than the subscription

@TheBooban

2 ай бұрын

@@caseyryan-hannum2545 do you think they will have 38.5 million non Tesla owners paying that subscription, in the next year or so?

@robertfonovic3551

2 ай бұрын

​@@caseyryan-hannum254538.5 million? In 2035 perhaps

@caseyryan-hannum2545

2 ай бұрын

@@TheBooban not next year. 5 years probably. But also I wasn't counting money from using the electricity itself. He said 13 was just to get the same price as tesla customers do. Lets say that is twice as valuable. In that case you'd only need about 15 million users in the whole world. That could be doable in a year or two

@TheBooban

2 ай бұрын

@@caseyryan-hannum2545 thanks for crunching the numbers. But it’s not the whole world, only USA as only there is Tesla the standard with a monopoly on the chargers. This figure seems pulled from thin air.

At the cost and the rate Tesla is adding superchargers, they have virtually no competition. In just a few years, Tesla superchargers will be everywhere, overwhelming existing players like ChargePoint, and pushing them out of business.

TSLA is still up over 880% over the past 5 years. Unlike legacy auto industry, they are continuing to invest profits in innovation and future global growth, they actually make stuff people want.

@PD55_

2 ай бұрын

ICE fanatics will be around for a long time to come. Unlike Ford and GM, Tesla does not have a huge inventory problem, they quickly sell whatever they can produce. @@howardj602

@PD55_

2 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 Tesla quickly sells everything it produces. GM, Ford, Jeep, Nissan have huge inventory backlogs. There's a limit to how many $100K pickup trucks (which mostly never see dirt) working Amercans can afford. And Tesla has more USA-manufactured content than anyone else, which is a big emotional factor. Plus, no stealership markups and batteries that last at least 8 years/350,000+ miles. ICE fanatics are fading fast, more EV choices like Rivian are ramping up.

Diversity plus synchronicity plus convergence equals power.

@robertfonovic3551

2 ай бұрын

Horseshit.

Everyone is insane investing in Tesla. The fundamentals are absolutely atrocious at this point. WAY too much emotion wrapped up in Tesla stock.

C’mon Sam Tesla aren’t just cars and charging, when Teslabots are common and affordable, and every City large or small has a range of Tesla energy storage in the form of the virtual power wall and its more obvious storage farms …

🧐

Tesla has a lot going on Elon USES $2.5T $TSLA Catalyst Idea 1 Year Later | POSTED 12/8/2022 Hans Nelson

Charge your EV with green solar power energy at home FOR FREE. Try doing this with your gasoline diesel poison mobile?

people aren't buy other evs they buy teslas in the U.S. so pretty sure there is not need to open up to other manufactures since all they do is sit on lots lol. unsold.

$13.00/month X 10,000,000 cars = $130,000,000 X 12 months = $1.56 billion/Year not $10 billion. There are only about 3 to 4 million non Teslas out there right now so: $13.00/month X 4,000,000 cars = $52,000,000/month or $642,000,000/year. Its not nothing but its not $10 billion. Of course they will make some off the elect sales also. Thing is they will become the only charging network out there soon.

@mikedar8484

2 ай бұрын

Add in Canada and Australia and Europe...

@JosefCZ

Ай бұрын

It is estimation for 2030

This is bad mafs. There are very few EV fords out and S & X charge for free.