If you put a labor union contract in the road, the Tesla will slam the brakes and deploy the air bags.

@quintonwilson8565

2 жыл бұрын

It's Tay!

@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726

2 жыл бұрын

Of course it will. Because it wants to protect every employee from a lack of productivity that comes with unions. In the end Tesla employees are way better of without one because productivity will lead to a higher stock price and you can benefit from that through stock based compensation. Unless you get fired for stupid behavior that is.

@TechGamesAU

2 жыл бұрын

Bro you can’t be leaving comments on videos like you’re some kind of normal KZreadr or something

@crazyuddie

2 жыл бұрын

Funniest thing I've read today.

@jojodroid31

2 жыл бұрын

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 ...and other jokes you can tell yourself

You have a good friend to casually run into the street in front of a moving vehicle it's increasingly clear won't stop, and give a chair a spin, or knock over a pallet!

I applaud your bravery in these tests. You really waited for the last second each time to give the system a chance to stop. Thank you for the video!

You're doing exactly what I would expect an excellent and dedicated engineer to do. You have always stayed focused on the task at hand and truthfully reported everything you have observed, and even after you were let go you have continued doing this work on your own. Much respect.

Even when it thinks the chair is a PERSON it's like "oh well BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP" & just decides to run him over.

Thanks for this! Haters are gonna hate and fanboys are gonna be fanboys. Don't be discouraged. You're bringing light about the FSD situation and informing thousands about how not-ready this technology is.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your kind words

@rj8u

2 жыл бұрын

Bringing light to FSD 😅. The car being tested is not even in FSD. I'm glad Tesla fired your lazy ass from their team. Go work for GM and Ford.

@travsformation1

Жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict And in pro of your own physical integrity, an (unsolicited) tip: When performing this kind of tests, hold the steering wheel without placing your thumbs around it. This is common practice in off-road driving, so that if a rock or rut causes the wheels to turn suddenly and violently, and thus also the steering wheel, you don't risk potential thumb injury. I think that scenario definitely applies here. 😅 I'd say it's worth preventing that risk so you can keep posting these very useful tests while reducing the risk to your person (insomuch as possible) 😅

@XXRAVENS35XX

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t FSD software. This is BASIC AUTOPILOT.

@Slayyyter_bitxh

Жыл бұрын

They also abandoned sensors for cameras so I'm not surprised at the results

I applaud your bravery, have always joked about doing these types of tests. Glad someone was brave enough to try it.

I’d be interested to see the test performed with beta version

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Same, Tesla can re-activate it for me and we can see

@sanisidrocr

2 жыл бұрын

Shame tesla doesn't allow testing with anybody that is not promoting them actively

@lazerusmfh

2 жыл бұрын

@@sanisidrocr I have beta and and could do some of these

@newberry940051

Жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict re-activate it? Are you the one who got it taken away after hitting something? Sucks man. I like the tests but it is beyond the way they want people using it. They already have so many people complaining about "normal" drivers testing software on public roads....

@crabbypattyRobloxgod

8 ай бұрын

@@newberry940051well my autopilot stops for chairs I place in-front of it, mind you it’s late 2023 almost 2024. Make sure next time ur using a tesla equipped with full self driving as this is not fair to just use autopilot and label it as full self driving. And remember detecting an object and acting upon it is different. Truthfully tesla has always said this feature is still actively being improved so expecting it to be good right out of the box is quite stupid. And it’s going to be fully autonomous pretty quick considering where it’s at today and how much it’s improved with tesla removing 300,000+ lines of code and now using the neural network to train the car even better.

So, what did they get the award for, if it never tried to stop? Im not a Tesla fan, I consider myself rather critical of them, but that's really strange that it didn't do anything. Have you tried a different roadway? Just out of curiosity. But i guess sometimes it detected the objects and did nothing, so wow thats pretty useless.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

The specifics of the award were for its detection and avoidance of “vehicles and pedestrians”. However, as shown, it did not react to a vehicle pulling out.

@gonzac36

2 жыл бұрын

How bad must the others be? It would be great to have the next up competitor run these tests too

@nicholasthon973

2 жыл бұрын

It’s miles better than what’s in all other cars, that’s why. Makes you worry about being another car, doesn’t it?

@VeganAtheistWeirdo

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasthon973 Doesn't make me worry, because I'd have to be either blind, paralyzed, or unconscious before I would rely on any self-driving software operating a vehicle that wasn't on a track or cable. And I agree, this award is premature by several years, at least judging by these results.

This was actually no clickbait. I'm impressed!

it's so important, you do this, even if Tesla will hate you for this or start any arguing why it's not realistic or whatever. But they have to face the truth that there is something not working propperly, not good enough. But, please: Make something that wakes up Tesla, really: Do this test again, but this time don't use daily items but: Take balloons (to make the object so light that you will be able to actually run over it without damaging your car) and create with the balloons a puppet in the REAL size of a 2 years old child, so with arms and legs and a head out of balloons and put child cloths on and some wool for hairs and place it as if it would crawl on the ground, maybe like a 2 years old after it has fallen down. (Maybe you should pull on a thin cord that the balloon toddler moves A BIT. And film this moment closely when and how the balloon toddler gets overrun to shock everybody, so that Tesla will speed up by getting better and also maybe focussing on this insead of creating new unimportant things like funny sounds or what ever. It's just disappointing that not at least the expensive cars can already perform perfect automatic emergency breaks! (no matter which system they use)

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Incorporating this into part 2. Great ideas all around here!

@emman100

2 жыл бұрын

Dang you have really thought about this. Great idea. 👍

@Hasunori

2 жыл бұрын

I think that behind the hype you don’t really know what Tesla is… Don’t expect that thief will suddenly try obeying the law and care about safety. Tesla is a Fraud.

@moremolecules

2 жыл бұрын

You could potentially do a carboard cutout of a child or an adult or a barbecue 🙂. The car will not be damaged by a cardboard cutout.

@Test108ryf

2 жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict this will definitely result in media attention and hopefully will force Tesla to put more effort into fixing this. Doing great work!

As much as I’m a believer in the tech, I call BS with Elon removing Radar from the 3 and the y. Radar cars perform better. Period

@jcasetnl

2 жыл бұрын

Tech does not require belief. My toaster works whether I believe in it or not. The way some people talk about this stuff sounds like a doomsday cult. Like you're all preparing for self-driving rapture.

Wow, these are better tests than 99% of tesla youtube. Grats!

Camera-only is a really bold move. They should probably have stuck to LIDAR which I imagine is a lot safer and much easier to interpret for the machine. Detecting an object in a LIDAR scan is probably downright trivial compared to computer vision. You just check for the distance to the car and that's it. You should be able to tell us more about this question I guess

@bradfordjhart

10 ай бұрын

Even with lidar you're still left with the problem of prediction. Humans it's just intuitive. It's very hard to teach machines how dumb people can be leaving the trash cans in the middle of the road.

wow man, your testing of the capabilities of a tesla is great, best I've seen on yt so far!

WHY can these systems get on the road without passing a driving test! I'd rather have a child drive.

@sking2173

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, the human operator is driving the car. Otherwise, the “FSD” would have to be turned off immediately. The fanboys that think this system is anywhere close to being autonomous are insane …

bro risked his own life in the name of science

@AIAddict

7 ай бұрын

😉

This was observable in a few situations in videos. FSD shows rather slow reaction times towards suddenly occurring objects. FSD can predict traffic and paths really well given far enough viewing range to assess the situation 2-3 seconds ahead of reaching that actually point or the objects arriving at the car's location. They need to bring this down to the 0.5 second region to significantly surpass human capabilities.

do you think that the proximity of the tree's shadows had any effect on the detection? Have you considered suspending things in the proper size/shape which would not damage the car and see how it behaves - like a balsa wood cutout or stuffed animal as target?

@rhysvanderwaerden5518

2 жыл бұрын

Even if it this were the case it's still obviously unacceptable.

@Shaqshaq_pov

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly not taking up for the car but it doesn’t do well with shadows plus they are on a corner going around a curve and a white truck is sitting right there it’s focusing on two many things and going too fast

DUDE, just please be careful!

@marco7346

2 жыл бұрын

Performing those stunts on public roads, what could actually go wrong?

@rj8u

2 жыл бұрын

This is the reason Tesla fired his ass in the first place 😂.

Time to get some of those 39" tall real dolls (My Size, or something was their name) and see if Tesla is ready to start running over kids as well as roll through stop signs.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered some!!!

Sad to see, that there is no emergency braking applied at all. Happy to see, that it is not violating the double line by avoiding the obstacles.

@ministeriumfurstartsicherh9895

2 жыл бұрын

@@logicthought24 no humans harmed or involved in this test..

This is what I have seen with AI aplied to the "phisical" world, very promising, a lot of potential but so far it doesn't work.

@VeganAtheistWeirdo

2 жыл бұрын

Sums it up nicely, I'd say.

1:54 so did they kicked you off the Beta?

Wow. Scary! I hope the authorities around the world are paying attention.

If a pedestrian wears a shirt with a picture of a red traffic light on it, will the Tesla think it's a real light and stop?

Consequences of Musk’s genius idea to remove radar. -anything to cut costs.

You need to run this test again, but this time with child simulations using ballistics gel wrapped in saran wrap and done in such a way that it (hopefully) doesn't destroy the tesla. I think the image of that going splat on the front of the Tesla would be enough to get attention, especially if you are approaching it as "we're trying to gather data to understand what's going on here".

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea, currently looking into ballistics. Maybe Adam Savage could help. Everyone should tag him in this comment

@4R53Hole

Жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict Put bull bars on it, with spikes and razorwire.

Full self driving in five years though 🤡

@Nebbia_affaraccimiei

2 жыл бұрын

not even 50

Wow, 12K for a feature that is dangerous. If you can't rely on it, what is the point?

good video. they need to be aware of these issues. who better to call them out than someone who they fired. keep it up

one problem I see is you are using AUTO PILOT on a two lane highway, auto pilot is made for the freeway and does not respond properly ib 2 lane traffic like FSD beta does. I'm sure it would work on a freeway, and I'm sure FSD beta would do fine. maybe not for the bucket but some of the other objects and defiantly the truck. I'm a beta tester and my model 3 2022 will stop if a truck or pedestrian pulls or steps in front of the car. also you need to have a destination set on the screen, seems to me when I use mine if I have plugged in a destination everything works better. probably should not mater but that's how mine seems to work.

@gaybrogrammer

Жыл бұрын

From a real world perspective, these requirements are too complex for the average person to rely on safely. The type of road shouldn’t dictate whether or not the car steers around deadly obstacles.

You've got nerves of steel! 😅 thank you for all the tests!

I’m quite curious if the emergency braking is still limited in between 7 and 29mph. If this is the case, could you retry this test on a straight road going under 28mph. I feel auto pilot needs the upper hand with a straight road for static objects. I know this test reflects real world situations and you’d definitely want your car to emergency brake at high speeds and in all cases.

You need to try dropping a cardboard box out of the back of the car you are following. This happen to me in real life but it was a carpenters saw horse which I couldn't avoid!

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Will 100% incorporate this into the next video!

Tesla vehicles used to have radar along with their vision. The radar would detect and brake for any object in the road. But Tesla felt they were hitting a glass ceiling depending on radar and decided to drop the radar completely and go all in on their Tesla Vision. However, by doing that, they had to go many steps back and work on getting through those edge cases that the radar would have no problems detecting. This is where Tesla is right now.

@osinskietal

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if this Tesla still has radar? It is also not obvious to me if the FSD stopped using radar for vehicles equipped with radar.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

My Tesla vehicle does have radar equipped but seems to only use the radar hardware for cruise control and summon.

@EpicBenjo

2 жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict Tesla’s that still have the radar hardware have them deactivated now. They don’t work.

Some parts of this video scared the hijibies out of me. 😨 You were so close to hitting them. 🤯 That's insane. Thanks for uploading. Upload more. 👍

What model year is your car? I wonder if it has the front facing radar.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

2021 Model 3 Long Range with Radar

Thanks for making this!

Your commentary is hilarious when it’s about to hit an object

Thank you for these in-depth tests. I'm terrified of the average driver, and even more so when that driver starts depending on this to drive for them.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Same, when I let friends drive my car, they activate this stuff and then let go of the wheel. Absolutely too complacent

@VeganAtheistWeirdo

2 жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict Holy shit don't they watch your channel?! I'm gonna say it's probably time to stop letting others drive the car, sadly.

I sent a link to this post to our son who is a Waymo programmer. He lives in SJC.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to meet your son. He sounds like a really cool person.

interesting, what year is the model 3 you were testing? I wonder if the camera only symptom is why thats happening or if thats the one with the camera and radar combo to operate the self drive/autopilot

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

2021 Model 3 Long Range with Radar equipped. Regardless of having radar equipped or not, Tesla has turned it off completely in the software. However, they do still rely on radar for TACC and Summon

@NewYorkDashCam

2 жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict interesting, did not know that. thanks for the update. thats really bad they need to fix that i feel like other makers would stop for those obstacles like The Subaru's EyeSight system ect.

Can you do it again with the FSD Beta? I wanna see if there are any differences

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll try and track down someone who is willing to let me do this with their beta build lol

I LOVE THIS!

Would FSD BETA avoid those same objects though? Just to see the whole picture, what if any progress with BETA vs the version 2016..

@rj8u

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is Yes. The FSD Beta have better objects recognition in comparison to Tesla Autopilot which is by the way just a plane old dumb cruise system same as all other Cruise system out there.

the way this guy steers aggressively back to the right lane seems so dumb lol

Great idea for a test. If I may ask, can you do this test again with the currently hyped 10.69, once you get it? Curious to see if there's any progress.

Cool testing video. Thanks!

@AIAddict

Жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, glad you enjoyed it!

Excellent video!

This was an incredible video, glad someone is doing this!!

Nah bro. It's working as intended. 🤣

Excellent job!

I was on my motorcycle and a Tesla just plowed right into me no braking at all. This video explains why. 😱😱

Been waiting for this one

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you like it!!

The fact it is detecting an object in the road and alerting you but doing nothing significant to avoid the situation on its own... what?! I could understand if it doesn't detect something there is nothing to act on. This shows it knows and does not act appropriately.

@quintonwilson8565

2 жыл бұрын

It lacks radar and thus cannot be 100% sure it can safely stop or swerve I'm guessing

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

This is a very astute comment

@Brendon471

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's just that the system he's testing was never designed to avoid/steer around objects and he's being intentionally misleading. Based on the two solid blue lines, that indicates he's in Autosteer -- the most basic form of Autopilot. All that does is keep you in lane and will brake for cars ahead of you. That's all Autosteer does. Auto emergency braking is part of the basic Autopilot package which includes Autosteer, but AEB will only brake for pedestrians, cyclists, cars, etc. You know, things that are actually common on the road. It is NOT trained to stop for office chairs in the road, grills, or any other random object that Aiaddict has lying around. And considering he worked at Tesla on the Autopilot team, I'd expect he knows this. Would you really want a system that would auto emergency brake for any object? Any false positive would have your car constantly braking which is why it's only trained to identify actual things that matter like people, cars and other road users. The only system that Tesla is testing that has any form of object avoidance is FSD beta, and even that is limited in what it will avoid (open car doors, some animals, etc.) and even that's only at low speeds. Aiaddict also previously tested this, so he should be aware of that too. To make a video like this to intentionally mislead people to think that Autopilot is something incapable system that isn't safe is ridiculous.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brendon471 regardless of the incorrect “auto steer” claims made. What are your thoughts on the emergency braking system? It should be able to detect at least a trash can and a vehicle but failed to brake.

There is similar test with other cars also kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIac0beqdJm1oMY.html These are cars were tested: Tesla Model S with Ap1 and ap2 Tesla Model 3 Tesla Model X Volkswagen Golf GTE Audi E-tron 55 Quattro Jaguar iPace You can notice, that ADAS systems have limitations in most of the cars. Audi works only to 25m/h. M3 at 25m/h overshoots slightly. MS works nicely. Very old MS sees something, but fails. Jaguar iPace and VW Golf GTE didn't work at all. So, newer Teslas are better than the competition, but it is still work in progress for all the brands. And the test was made for slow situations of 25m/h. The test was not made on current models.

Great video, informative, though I'm curious, why is it over every test it's placed right after the tree's shadow? And at the curve? The author mentioned they worked at Tesla - was there foreknowledge here? Same test, no shadow? Nothing excuses the performance, just curious if the weakness was known in advance making this a bit of a mock-up.

what if you ran the same tests with autopilo instead of manual driving? could it be that the AEB system is more conservative for such objects and autopilot may have better risk maneuvers?

@sking2173

2 жыл бұрын

Valid question. But to me, it would be foolish to design the system as such, especially given the sketchy nature of the FSD/Autopilot system. That Uber system that mowed down that old lady in Phoenix had the AEB system disabled so as not to interfere with the self-driving system testing, and Uber came under all sorts of fire for that move.

Brave man. Thanks for testing that out for us

@AIAddict

Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

Does the non-beta FSD stack compute depth predictions for pixels or areas on the screen that are not identified as lane markings or objects?

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how they differ but camera self driving works using pixel density in most cases

My car always stops for beer kegs!

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

So does my stomach 😋

@sking2173

2 жыл бұрын

So does mine, and it’s Level-0 autonomous and still somehow knows a good thing when it “sees” it …

There is so much wrong here. Iihs says it's a pedestrian and vehicle avoidance system, not a static/moving object system. You were testing auto steer, not the "FSD system". If you read what AEB and Auto steer do, they definitely don't tell you "the car should steer and brake without [your] input".

Wow, wasn't expecting such poor results. Do you think the software has gotten better since then? Maybe do another one of these vidoes?

Thx! That was entertaining :)

Try this with fsd beta!

@sanisidrocr

2 жыл бұрын

Tesla doesn't want anybody that isn't mostly promoting them to use the beta software. They openly restrict usage for anybody that tries to be fair with the testing

Where was this filmed? Beautiful location where that road is!

I'm lowkey scared it will crash like the Teslas in recent news. Stay Safe and Thank you for making this content.

Could you maybe do a redo on this? I wanna know if they've made any software updates to this. Subscribed!

One thing that is never going to happen is swerving around the object with a double yellow painted lane marking. Especially with what I call dumb autopilot and FSD. The only object i would have expected it to brake for was the truck but the original non-beta FSD was not meant for streets anyway and will be improved when the beta is complete.

@spazzman90

Жыл бұрын

Correct. Insurance companies will never fault you for staying in your lane. Your chances of further injuries and damage go up like 3x as soon as you leave your lane, either left or right.

Something is not right, so if you worked on design for this software does it mean this sort of basic test were not conceived during design?

Can't turn on audio so this might have been covered. Is there a possibility that you have to get a littler closer in order for the auto brake to kick in?

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Any closer and it would have been an automatic collision IMO

can you include a camera showing the pedals? Ideally a continuous clip that shows pedals and the object. just to be sure you're not pressing any pedals. Because you can press the accelerator to override emergency breaking.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

I can definitely incorporate that into the part 2 video

I know you helped develop this software but are the safety features only active at low speeds? That’s how some other cars work so that’s why I wonder

Do you think it didn't steer around it because it didn't want to go into an oncoming lane? Would be different (and way safer) to do this in an empty parking lot.

could you also add the replay of the footage of all cameras next time? Would be interested to see.

This has always been the most concerning failure of Tesla's software. It just tries to plow right through so many things that it doesn't expect to be there. FSD Beta regularly tried to drive me through a train. I can understand struggling to recognize some small obstructions, as it must be near-impossible to train it to distinguish every object, but it's particularly concerning that it fails to see large obstructions, and that it fails to react to the ones it does see. The latter seems improved on FSD Beta but these are my greatest concerns for FSD ever reaching full functionality.

haha thanks for showing the REALITY

Thank you for the video. This will make musk very upset.

Great video. 👍 Try some soft balloon, life-sized, life-shaped objects next. It will allow the car to plow through them without being damaged if it does not stop in time. Try different lightings and compare to cheaper low-tech vehicles you can get on the market right now. Some people think the test is unfair because the car is not using FSD beta. Show them a cheap gasoline-powered vehicle half the cost of the tesla can handle these scenarios effortlessly while not boasting any sort of autopilot capabilities. Great work. 👍

It was a nice bucket

People use it every day on the highway ..and there is no problem may be some time phantom braking ...thanks for the effort..i think you use it too.

@habibi750

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I just subscribed to FSD and went on a 200 mile road trip and the car performed flawlessly. I was super impressed.

If you run tests like this again, careful of over steering. Say you have the collision point (CP) and the near miss pathing around that CP; anything after that CP could be apart of that new pathing. You have some reasonable reactions but there is Absolutely No reason to have anyone after the CP. Cases: 1. pathing around the object is not possible, and front of the car strikes object while projecting that object towards bystander. 2. over correction or tyre fails and telsa now isnt going to adhere to intended near miss pathing (tesla may skid or continue into bystander) 3. failure to handle the steering wheel (missing the critical turn back towards the road and thus ditching the car off the road - towards a bystanders) One simple solution is setting up cameras on tripods (thus removing human life in the area) while fully controlling the road for these tests. (With respects to a partially opened road: I was a part of controlling traffic on a mountain road (2 lane) while wearing cycling gear and having no traffic cones or flares while we waited for EMS. 1 crashed cyclist who couldnt be moved, 1 person who was stabilising the cyclist and eventually 4 people conducting traffic through the area, 2 above the crash, 1 at the crash and 1 below the crash - due to sight lines and poor reaction of drivers. Drivers who are used to be bombing about 120% of the speed limit down their favourite mountain/backroads are not looking for unusual circumstances. They are going to keep driving and not really register someone trying to flag their attention, especially americans in silicon valley. Best solution is to expect cars to ignore any directions. They will drive through this area of the road, collide and then ask why the road wasnt closed fully for testing)(I hope you had additional spotter cars to clear a larger time gap than what was shown here)

How are people not angry for paying 12K for trash? I don’t even use it when I get free trials.

I was really hoping you'd actually hit the objects lol

@AIAddict

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the orange bucket on run #1 was the only object we willfully hit

Ahh I see so instead of confronting the real world tesla's ai thought of deleting the object from its virtual world. I guess everyone process stress and truma differently. Bet a different tesla with a different personality will not fall for this.

This is very weird. Especially the last example with the truck pulling out. I’ve had the exact scenario with a car pulling out in front of me more than once (not very good drivers in my area). It pulled out even later than yours did. I didn’t even have time to react and my Model Y activated the emergency brakes and slowed me enough to avoid hitting the car pulling out in front of me. My Model Y has FSD but not beta - so the same software as your model 3 (in theory).

@stevecool4381

2 жыл бұрын

interesting, was the lighting any different?

@vitallacerda

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevecool4381 Maybe you should check your system because my car works fine in both of your last situations.

@mikesevgarage

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevecool4381 I'm not sure. I'm sure there is a lot that's different. I was on a 4-lane road in a different area of the country. It's happened more than once, so I need to pay better attention to the conditions next time 👍🏻

You should create objects from soft material.

The only constant is that type of roadway. Judging by how narrow the roadway is and how dense the objects (aren’t) it’s calculating that it’s safer to go through it at that speed than off the roadway. Try an open parking lot

Your ESC system the whole time: 👁👄👁

Why are you testing on a curve in the road?

You need a real crash dummy like what IIHS uses so the radar and cameras can properly detect it

please do it with fsd beta

Would FSD Beta react better than this or no?

I know for fact it can't avoid your wallet that's for sure 😂

You guys are crazy.

Its still worrying that people actually think Level 2 should stop for static objects. That's the driver's job. The reason that AEB and AES exist is that sudden moving obstacles that might be dangerous (so small animals will be driven over because its considered to be safer) or endangered by the car can be avoided.

@saladien9987

Жыл бұрын

The pickup truck could be because of the missing Radar. Cameras are just very bad at detecting such dangerous situations, LIDAR should further improve this detection rate dramatically in the next few years. But its still Level 2 for now.

I got a Mazda CX30 GT Sport Tech this year, and I can can tell you it's emergency braking is so much better, I don't think I would be able to crash the car even if I tried. With one exception, the other night I had to defrost the windscreen, and I should have got the frost of the cameras, result was dash was flashing at me all safety systems off line. Next time we have a heavy frost I will know to make sure it's fully defrosted before I drive off.

Swerving the car to the left in that curve with no shoulder to the left of the road increases the risk for the car to roll over that cliff.

My assumption is that the only acceptable tolerances on their vision-only FSD suite to avoid excessive phantom braking (due to false positives like road markings and shadows) that smaller static objects are simply ignored. Hopefully the beta version can do better because that's obviously not acceptable for anything beyond L2.