Probably my favorite Magic channel I've seen in recent years. It's a delightful take on the game that I haven't seen on other channels. Hopefully this comment and like helps with the KZread algorithm.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I get accused of having "bad takes" quite a bit. But, honestly I've been in the game a while and I just remember how it used to be. I remember how "magic" Magic: the Gathering's world and setting could be. I feel like for the last decade the company has only really focused on the mechanics and as a result the player base has too. You know, the parts that grow are the parts that you feed etc. So here I am. Shouting at clouds, telling people "No! It was better when you could identify a plane by it's mechanics or art style!" like a maniac. But I feel I'm right, so I'm going to make content for anyone else out there who may feel the same. Thank you very much for the comment

@james22022

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames Everyone is entitled to their own takes and opinions on the game, because it is just a game. I admittedly started around a decade ago, but even I could see the lessening focus on story and flavor of the cards themselves. Every set getting a mechanic that we'll never see again isn't exactly the most fun as a player either, especially if it doesn't really fit a narrative theme that the name of the mechanics have.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Sure, but the fix there would be to bring back mechanics by revisiting the planes. We just had Ravnica Remastered and reprinted a bunch of old mechanics. Why not bring those to new cards in Murders at Karlov Manor, and give old Ravnican archetypes new support? Make it feel like the old set made new again, you know? But you are right. I wouldn't want to never see mechanics again. Maybe this is further evidence to bring back the 3 set block? Maybe one of those sets is all new mechanics, and another is all reused ones?

@mathieubrebouillet714

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that was a really enjoyable surprise when the youtube algorithm showed it to me

Feel like I've just watched a compelling courtroom drama

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

In fairness, the drama is usually in the comments

I was expecting more than one actual card, but I am also not disappointed, looking forward to more

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was going to do three and then looked at the run time haha. Next time I won't feel the need to explain what tagger is, cos I'll have done it here. But, cutting two cards is the reason I felt this should be a series

Didn't knew about scryfall tagger. It will come in handy when building my commander decks, thanks a lot!!

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

You're more than welcome. It's why I'm here!

I would argue against using mechanics to tie to a plain, but the biggest thing that ties mob to innistrad is mh1 containing quite q few cards that depicts innistrad qlongside the other signs in the art

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I see your point about the mechanics. I guess I'm arguing from an idealistic perspective. In the last decade with the focus on Planeswalkers, the characters were all basically the same regardless of the plain we were on. This mordern digital artwork style is breaking down distictions between the planes too. So though you may be right, I feel we should be able to identify a plain by it's mechanic, because otherwise MtG's multiverse becomes one homogeneous mess. I may do a video on this in the future, as I have thoughts and feelings on it. Also, good shout on looking at other confirmed Innistrad MH2 cards. I didn't even think of that!

@aromedia4318

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames therescone more set that takes place directly on innistrad, magic origins covered 10 planes corrilatong to where one of 5 walkers where from and the first plane they walked too One of these was liliana and thusly innistrad as thats her home plane So 1/10 of cards in magic origins are innistradian I wonder how fun it would be to try to pick them all without looking at the tqgs in a game of is-nn-it-rad

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@aromedia4318 See, now this is a fun game! Guess it Innistrad!

@aromedia4318

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames also, i dont mind erratas the way mtg does it, minus companions, they shouldve just been banned outright, but compared to yugioh, heartgstone, ect, mtg only ever adds types based on if a type has been added since and mostly applies to new tribes being labeled such as dinosaur, so as long as it only changes the creature tyoe i dont really mind much, espevially since in those cases if you built your deck fir it you would know the badger, is, well a badger, its more adding flavour text then anything, still i wish they would just leave the old cards, doesnt matter if it makes sense, in most cases its just silly to go back and say oh no nkw we reconize pyhrexians as a tyoe uhhh all you old infect cards have a new type! Or combining types, they got rid of naga as a creature type and just made it snake, why, what does it do appart from make 1 snake tribal guy cream his pants So overall i agree but for different reasons

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

See, I'm not a fan of the naga change. It doesn't make sense to me. Like, should Werewolves all just be dogs? And speaking of dogs... don't get me started on "Hounds". Eugh

Mechanics aren't tied to the planes anymore, it's not a good argument. The only thing convoke implies is cooperation in reaching the goal, it is possible for a group on any plane, the only reason that we have seen it on Innistrad and not on Ulgrotha is the difference in popularity and design space. So both are still perfectly possible, there's no way to tell.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Hence I imagine why it's not tagged as Innistrad. Personally I would like to see Planes ties to mechanics again. The art style has been very samey across a lot of sets recently, regardless of setting. Would be nice to make the different planes actually feel unique again

@jaceg810

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames Fun fact, a lot of murders at karlov manor (I think set on ravnica) has heaps of new cepenna art that has been cut and reused. So of course the art appears samey since it is no longer tied to its home plane.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@jaceg810 Excellent stuff. This is healthy for the game, I'm sure.

Love to see future videos about each of the different planes

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I'll work on it. Thanks for the comment

7:15 zettai ryoiki tag? Now I know what I'll be doing for a couple of hours

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

And to think I was worried my videos wouldn't be of use to anyone

@Sylph8hidE

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames and thank you for your service, the world aren't ready for my zettai ryoiki tribal deck

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@Sylph8hidE 170 cards apparently. Lord knows you have choices at least

I went to check if you or any other viewer had actually made this tagging and found that no one had actually went and done it, so I took it on myself to finish the job and add the explanation given in your video to the tag. I also really enjoy the tagger and the process of figuring out these details related to Magic cards.

@RedBobcatGames

2 ай бұрын

Awesome! That's so cool, thank you. I plan on doing more of these, but also I think there's only so many Innistrad videos I can get away with making a month haha

I’m so thrilled to see your channel growing and more content coming from you! I’ve been here since the beginning and you’re already over 3k!!!

@RedBobcatGames

Ай бұрын

I know right? Those last few videos have done quite well aswell. Monday will be interesting as I'm doing another Quiz. We'll see how that does. I hope it doesn't tank in the algorithm, but even if it does I think it's more important to make videos you love rather than chase trends and attempt to please the algorithm. So we'll see, and thank you for the continued support!

Fantastic video, Sir Bobcat the Red! I eagerly await more installments!

@RedBobcatGames

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Next week I talk about eating pets. It's a wild time here

@15:30 Wait. You are disagreeing.. with a lack of information? How does that work?

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Well basically they say there isn't enough evidence, and I say there is. I think it's Innistrad

Would love to see this Series with Ravican cards too!

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Ohhh man. that would be SO many videos. I think I'd start with Foul Watcher to bridge the gap between that and Innistrad

scryfall is a blessing on humanity.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Preach!

Scryfall's art tagger has a "cleavage" tag in case you'd like to check it out.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Oh, that's that keyword from Crimson Vow right? I've been thinking about doing a video on it. I think it may be the worst mechanic in the game. At least Banding was thematically on point. (also yes, all of this was a joke)

@JervisGermane

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames lol

Objection! :P you missed on cannonically not Innistrad werewolf. Mild-Mannered Librarian from Jumpstart which is a human which gains the werewolf subtype and the tagger has marked as being a creature from Strixhaven. Though I don't think that there is going to be an angry mob with pitchforks on Strixhaven ganging up to kill a werewolf. I would also make two other points both in favor of Ulgrotha. On Innistrad we don't often see cards depicting humans fighting against the horrors of the plane depicted in black, black aligned humans on Innistrad are more likely to be in cooperation with the dark forces of the world, which does lend to the flavor that black aligned humans on the black mana dominated world of Ulgrotha would be more likely using an effect rooted in black mana to destroy a werewolf. The other clue we get is the sky and general color pallet of the art. When compared to more contemporary cards depicting Ulgrotha, this is more in line with the kind of sky we see on the Serf token whereas typically on Innistrad cards are depicted showing the light of the midday sun or are in the dark of night, but rarely at dusk or dawn... however this point I'll admit is a bit flimsy since the light source could also be from torches held by the mob.... but if it is indeed sundown as it appears then that could be a third point for Ulgrotha as werewolves on Innistrad are always in their human form during the day. I also don't know that I think convoke appearing as a mechanic is enough to settle the point since the convoke mechanic was listed to many many planes during the multiverse invasion by Phyrexia, and Ulgrotha only received one singular card depicting the plane in that set. The convoke mechanic post dates any other times we've visited the plane, so it would be impossible beyond the one "Invasion of Ulgrotha" card for the mechanic to have realistically appeared on cards depicting that plane.

@RedBobcatGames

Ай бұрын

All very good points. With any luck, one day we'll return to Ulgrotha for a full set (or 3 sets if I had my way) and the plane will be fleshed out a lot more. It'll be interesting then to see what the comparisons between it and Innistrad are

Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger Mushroom, Mushroom.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Reading this made me think of that Metal Gear guy who shouts "SNAKE!" and, now I'm worried memes are blending together in my head

Great stuff, thank you!

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

You're welcome, and thank you!

I don't think the final argument makes a lot of sense as anything conclusive. It'd be one thing if we were talking about an Innistrad-specific mechanic, but we're talking about one that's shown up on all kinds of planes as you've talked, and is generic enough and used enough that one could it see it becoming evergreen or close in the future (like cycling).

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Oh for sure, it's less that the Convoke clue is the definitive evidence and more that when you add it all together I think it tips the scale. If there were any one thing that was concrete, Scryfall probably would have tagged it already. I'm saying there's a load of little things however, that if you add them up I believe become enough proof to say yes

@opinionofmine3238

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames I do realize that's what you're saying, I just don't think that's really evidence for Innistrad, even small scale, as the mechanic is so detached from any given setting that it doesn't really push for an association with any. Even disregarding chronology and volume of cards, it's more likely than not that the lack of convoke on any given plane is more a question of where the proverbial camera was pointing than whether it would fit.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@opinionofmine3238 Yeah, I agree. But that's kind of my point though. The camera so rarely points at Ulgrotha, that having Convoke on Mob means that it's statistically more likely to be Innistrad. It's the same argument as what I like to call "Look at all these Werewolves". 73 vs 1 etc. Neither argument on their own are solid, but get enough of those arguments all pointing in the same direction and it starts to make a pattern. The fact that Ulgrotha doesn't have convoke when as you say, it's basically evergreen, means that Mob is more likely to be Innistrad.

I agree with scryfall that it's technically ambiguous still but yeah it's likely innistrad

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

See, this is why I wanna do some more videos like this. As there are times I think it's ambiguous in a similar vein to Mob, but they do get listed as Innistrad. I guess I want to find where the line is, cos I think the evidence for Mob is just as compelling as the evidence for some others

Dude this is so dope

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man, I appriciate it

2:20 News to me. Now I just picture WotC printing a steady trickle of these Maro cards akin to how Mephisto from Marvel grows in power every time his name or very concept is comprehended by mortal minds.

@RedBobcatGames

Ай бұрын

There are 15 "Maro" cards by my count currently. More if you if you count whatever a "Fumarole"' is

This is a fun game and I'd be interested in seeing more of your thoughts on where you think a card is from. Would like to see some love for Ikoria as well

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

From me or from WotC? I woulnd't hold your breath for Wizards. I honestly think there's a chance Ikoria only existed to sell Godzilla cards

@charlieread7097

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames yeah I meant you, but I do hope wizards revisits it as well

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@charlieread7097 I'm sure I can try and muster some love for Ikoria, but Ikoria specifically is two very different beasts. The cards and the story went in two wildly different directions. Which did you prefer?

When I want to look up wich cards belong to wich plane, I usually search in MTG multiverse. Yes, it's even more fan currated then Tagger, but because it's more focused card like Mob usually finds their home plane

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

See, you're the second person to say this to me. I need to check it out, sounds like my jam

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

Okay... so I looked. Two cards in and they're wrong haha. I looked up Innistrad, and literally the second card is Archangel of Tithes which is from Dominaria. Damn

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

Awww man. Devout Invocation is on there, which also isn't Innistrad. This is a real shame. But hey, at least I have some new cards to talk about for my next IS IT INNISTRAD episode I guess

@laszlokaszas1003

5 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames yea, it has a problem of only considering art or mechanic when placing cards, plus it is a little to eager to find a home for every card

@laszlokaszas1003

5 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames The site is run entirely by 1 person, and they usually change card placement if someone points out mistakes. Overall, it's just a pasion project

I think we need a is it EGG video!!

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I am very much on board

Hey I think you missed the opportunity to compare the flavor text on unruly mob and mob seeing how they both are trying to evoke the same sentiment. To a point that it was a deliberate callback to exactly that card.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

A bit like Village Cannibals and Village Rites? I think you're right. (Also, don't tell anyone but since this was published I actually did find evidence of Werewolves on Jamuraa and I don't really know what to do about that. The video's up already. I mean, the clothing of the people in Jamuraa doesn't match those in Mob, so I'd still have ruled it out... but, you know. Whoops)

I like this, and I love the game! I’ll have to try it myself

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

It's a lot of fun. And with as many cards as there are you can find many ways to play

This is fun but we need some cards that are more of a challenge

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I was originally going to do three cards, but once i'd explained how the game worked I looked at the run time and decided to cut it down. It's also why I said I'd probably make this a series. There's a load more cards out there to do this with

Good video

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Good comment, thank you

Just saying the werewolf from Mob could be from the time-frame of the dark in dominaria since its set during a dark age

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Perhaps, but looking only at the cards I can't find any werewolves that match. So I guess the question is, should I only be looking at the cards?

Yeah that card is clearly a callback to Unruly mob and I fully 100% agree it's set on Innistrad

@RedBobcatGames

Ай бұрын

Score one for the bobcat

You should do the game again, but with other planes, maybe phyrexia?

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Ohhhhhhh, but what does that even mean? You mean Phyrexia? Or New Phyrexia? Or Mirrodin? Or, whatever Mirrodin was before it was Mirrodin (I forget the name if it had one)? Good thought though

Innistrad is the best plane!

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Well, I think so at least

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Hmmm, maybe not "best". Maybe just my favourite

I love Innistrad , Midnight Hunt and Crimson vow . Subbed

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

I love them too. It's why their flaws hurt me so haha. I even love Double Feature. Yes, I did knowingly buy Double Feature. That is the extent of my love for the set! Have you ever played original Innistrad?

@parabot2

5 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames I'm currently putting toghter a set of Shadows over Innistrad , but have yet to play . But the whole theme is fantastic , art etc all setting perfect mood. Would love to see you do more Innistrad specific Videos , too 😄.

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

@@parabot2 Now, if I can just get a couple hundred thousand more subscribers like you and I'll make Innistrad videos ALL DAY LONG. You want a video on the beauty and tragedy of Isobel? Don't get me started. I'LL DO IT!

@parabot2

5 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames Will try my best to tell people about your Channel .

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

@@parabot2 Why thank you very much. This last month especially I've noticed that the algorithm just isn't recommending me to anywhere near as many people as it has before, so that really helps. No pressure if not though, even just the thought is appriciated

engagment!

@RedBobcatGames

3 ай бұрын

reply!

I enjoyed this content, because it was good. I like when I watch good content! Magic the gathering :)

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

Top comment. 100%

1:15 I wish MtG would do what Yugioh does in that whenever a card gets errata'ed it is always gets a reprint to reflect its newest text.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Right?! There's what, one Companion card that actually has the correct rules text? Drives me nuts!

@josephwodarczyk977

6 ай бұрын

​​@@RedBobcatGames All the companions got reprints in MOM with the updated rules text. Also Gavin Verhey has a video on erratas. Basically, creature types are a very low stakes issue. And it's just better to have the art match the card, rather than the ink match the card. Double also, they errata cards all the time for minor wording issues. And reprinting every card they do that to would be... Well basically impossible. Yugioh doesn't reprint cards to errata them. But rather they only update card text unless it's needed for a reprint. Cost cutting.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

They did? I played MOM, were they only in collectors boosters or something? And if creature types are such a low stakes issue, why do we keep seeing them meddling with it? Hounds, Nagas, Phyrexians? Is anybody asking for them to go back and add these things, really? Also, I've never really gotten into Yugioh. Is it good? As a magic player, would I like it?

@Reluxthelegend

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames They were in the multiverse legends bonus sheet. As for yugioh, depends on how much you like combo. Since (almost) every deck Yugioh in combos in order to function (combos don't directly win you the game like MtG combo decks, instead they are just necessary to realize your game plan, so control decks combo, midrange deck combos, OTK decks [yugioh version of aggro] decks combo) and decks tend to be very synergistic. So if you like synergy, combos and fast-paced games Yu-Gi-Oh can be fun.

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@Reluxthelegend Ugh, Multiverse Legends was in collectors boosters right? No wonder I didn't spot them. And I've been meaning to give Yu-Gi-Oh a try for a while. I think I saw a client for it on Steam. I'll add it to my "to play" list

Cool

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

Thanks

More more more

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I'm working on it! I hope you like Pokémon, cos that's next

is there some MTG in-joke with pronouncing it "justi-CAR"? i ask because everyone seems to pronounce it that way and i finally looked at the word and realized it comes from the word "justice" and that it appears to be pronounced more like "justi-SHIAR"

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I'd have pronounced it "Justice-e-ar" myself, but no. It's not so much an in joke, as a thing you hear so many times it just sort of becomes the norm. If I read the word any other way, I pronounce it correctly. On a magic card, it's "just-y-car". Not sure why haha

@LucasTigy2

6 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames i originally thought it was pronounced that way as well until i decided to look it up today. "justice-e-ar" just makes the most sense with the spelling to me

@partyballoonsnorwich2122

6 ай бұрын

Another great thought provoking video! Thanks @RedBobcatGames

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@partyballoonsnorwich2122 Thank you

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

@@LucasTigy2 And yeah, I believe that is the correct pronunciation. But now you've pointed it out, I actually quite like the idea all magic players pronounce it wrong on purpose just to mess with people that don't play haha

Have you ever been on mtg multiverse it's a great plane resource

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

I have not. Tell me everything. This sounds like something I would love.

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

So, an update. I just have visited MTG Multiverse and was so tempted to just start recording my live thoughts as I looked through the Innistrad cards there. There's a few that are missing that should be listed, a few included that I think are questionable, and a few on there that are just wrong. It's a real shame, because it's the sort of thing I would love, but sadly it's inaccurate

@CarmenCards

5 ай бұрын

@@RedBobcatGames the more recent set have reviews explained why there putting them there, I do agree though cards like blessed spirits and blood rage vampire seem like a reach at best

@RedBobcatGames

5 ай бұрын

@@CarmenCards This seems like a website that has the potential to consume me haha. I do love the idea of finding a home for each card

Comment for the comment god, like for the like throne! Also ya know, good and informative video

@RedBobcatGames

6 ай бұрын

God damn. I want to start saying that in videos. That's sick. I have exactly one 40k army, it's exclusively Khorne demons and it's terrible. Them boys don't have guns, and I love them for it

I didn’t know

@RedBobcatGames

4 ай бұрын

About tagger?