He violated one of the basic rules of gun safety: know what your target is.

@haveaday1812

Ай бұрын

Yep.

@adotintheshark4848

Ай бұрын

He also hit the fridge, an unintended target.

@barneyronnie

Ай бұрын

​@@adotintheshark4848He had NO BUSINESS being a sniper. He was a wannabe bigshot😂!

@theeater1756

Ай бұрын

That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.

@AK-rv6dq

Ай бұрын

​@@theeater1756no, uvalde was a bunch of cowards

You’re responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun

@persephoneszeliga

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Know your target or DON’T SHOOT.

@user-ju2pv4zd8x

Ай бұрын

Unless you’re a police officer.

@persephoneszeliga

Ай бұрын

@@user-ju2pv4zd8x exactly. They face no consequences.

@user-xm4wk1hk6c

Ай бұрын

Wait BUT who placed his daughter in danger…think of that.

@user-ju2pv4zd8x

Ай бұрын

@@user-xm4wk1hk6c so you don’t think a TRAINED SNIPER should know what he’s shooting? Yeah you have a room temperature IQ

Never shoot at something you can't identify.

@benhartart9487

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip guy

@corycripmaster

Ай бұрын

Easy to say from your keyboard/smartphone.

@KrGsMrNKusinagi0

Ай бұрын

yup this is 101 facts

@Gloamy17

Ай бұрын

Won't work when the aliens invade bro 👾

@southboundguitar

Ай бұрын

⁠@@corycripmasterWhere was he supposed to say it so that your dumbass hears it in your mom’s basement? I spent a total of 30 months in Iraq. Never fucking shoot at something can’t identify. That’s basic not being a dumb shit 101. Thanks for playing, though!

That poor precious baby. This one makes me really sad.

@benhartart9487

Ай бұрын

She’s rich and in the void now

@ChristelVinot

Ай бұрын

@@benhartart9487 what?

@darylyost7273

Ай бұрын

Ruby Ridge?😂😢😮😅😊

@Unpainted_Huffhines

Ай бұрын

@@darylyost7273 Why are you just replying "Ruby Ridge" to a bunch of comments in this thread? Also, do you think Ruby Ridge was funny, or sad? You have a bunch of emojis in your comments.

Eli put his daughter in that situation, but the sniper should have been CERTAIN knowing the child was in there.

@brittr1358

Ай бұрын

@Bebecat477 I'm more mad at his boss. Refused the shooter's multiple demands to get the girl out by letting his sister get her. Refused his sister who begged police to let her get close to get his daughter. They said the sister's life was at risk and he'd shoot her. They messed up when he said he wasn't going to shoot the aunt but they didn't budge. It makes me wonder if it was a stubborn police chief.

@Bebecat477

Ай бұрын

@@brittr1358 I wonder if they thought he'd just kill his sister. She was brave enough to want to try. If Eli had cared about his child, he'd have just sent her out

@sage1682

Ай бұрын

Ruby ridge

@gregj.gotham4402

Ай бұрын

His wife called the cops

@ZestySea

27 күн бұрын

@@Bebecat477Yes, I don’t think the sister’s life was assured. It’s a difficult decision

What a long, tragic end to that poor babies short life. 😢

If you can't tell a baby from a grown man at 100 yards . You have no business behind a gun

RIP Little Clesslynn 🕯

Your analysis is spot on. An entire family was wiped out because of the actions of one man. Eli

@vivienm2037

Ай бұрын

Men ☕️

@stefpix

Ай бұрын

and of one negligent cop...

@JustMe-fo4ev

Ай бұрын

@@vivienm2037 Yawn.

@JustMe-fo4ev

Ай бұрын

@@stefpix No, that's wrong. Once he threatened to take her out the clock was ticking.

@christopherobrien46

Ай бұрын

Planets getting wiped out b/of actions of liberals. Immigrants 15 million😞

I agree that Sniper 1 ignored the risk of killing a child. Though not charged, he's got to live with his awful misjudgment.

@gazoontight

Ай бұрын

I doubt that he's losing much sleep over this.

@ursodermatt8809

Ай бұрын

@@gazoontight was about to write the exact same

@HaYlEeXx19

Ай бұрын

@@gazoontighthow do you know?

@gazoontight

Ай бұрын

@@HaYlEeXx19 You don't become a sniper unless you have the drive to kill.

@JustMe-fo4ev

Ай бұрын

@@gazoontight I doubt you know either way.

Funny how the dad allowed the child to stand on the couch in front of a window during this incident.

@richardmcquade9832

Ай бұрын

Essentially a hostage situation. Father could have had his back to the window while holding his daughter and the sniper's bullet would killed them both.

@ohsweetmystery

Ай бұрын

Everyone knows the father was a horrible person, they just expected more from their police officers.

@sandrachebo

Ай бұрын

One could think that was dad's plan. The sniper would mistakenly shoot her, because dad set it up. Dad already knew he was going to die, why leave her behind... he let the police kill her by accident. I feel sorry for the sniper. The dad set him up for the dirty deed. Dad was a evil man.

@reneegardner2286

Ай бұрын

​@@ohsweetmystery that part

@bhutehole

Ай бұрын

funny how they don't trust sniper 1s target assessment. so much so they took him off swat. its funny how actions show how people really feel

“Just a reminder I’m not diagnosing anyone in this video, only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this” would go so hard on a shirt.

@LonelyHearts.Co24

Ай бұрын

"Go so hard on a shirt" What language is that?

@PsyopAgentProvocateur

Ай бұрын

I use an adaptation of that statement when I share my opinion on social media in a hope to have a more civil discourse. I think it change the mind frame of a lot of people who tend to attack in comments. It’s a useless attempt on reddit, but can have a pacifying effect on Facebook and KZread.

@PsyopAgentProvocateur

Ай бұрын

@@LonelyHearts.Co24 It's a truncated sports analogy from Basketball. "go hard in the paint" refers to the paint on a basketball court. Just as ‘par the course’ originated from Golf. 🤟🏼

@stevenwest000

Ай бұрын

A bit lengthy lol

@Jimmy_Watt

Ай бұрын

It's cringeworthy language used by teens.

Dr. G, this is such a heartbreaking situation. That poor sweet baby.

@joeskis

Ай бұрын

it's possible she was a complete brat. But it's still tragic.

My father was an army sniper and he said that he would have never taken that shot unless he thought that an ally was in imminent danger. He further said that in a situation like that you really need a clear shot and would have to switch positions and use night vision. He said that sniper 1 knew the exact details of the assignment and that there was a live child in the home, so he should have acted with care and with certainty. Lastly, he said that there was no reason for a knock at the door. And he was baffled when the perpetrator opened the door and the police did not go in right then knowing about the active assault. He said that it isn’t just negligence from sniper 1 it’s also negligence from the original responders who could have prevented the entire situation. Also not sure why the doc is saying that the two year old should have crouched?? Maybe I misunderstood that part but not many two year olds know to crouch when getting shot at.

@LemonHead-sq5ws

Ай бұрын

Poor child didn’t even know what was going on some people shouldn’t have kids…

@kristyc1046

Ай бұрын

I took docs comment for the fact that her father was shooting & even out the window where she obtains the fatal wound. She was standing or sitting on the couch, not tall enough to be in the window, therefore, the child would be crouched or down on the floor since gunshots are loud & she would be scared. So not when getting shot at but the shooting around her. What caught my attentin was your 1st line, Question, COULD we say Snipper 1 took that opportunity to shoot d/t ally in imminent danger? While I do agree he made a poor decision, he cant disgtinuigh the victim vs target, both police and child were in danger. Sad situation all around.

@LemonHead-sq5ws

Ай бұрын

@@kristyc1046 shut yo ass up

@MrAkaacer

Ай бұрын

@@kristyc1046 Police were never in any real danger. Police know how to take cover. Sniper's would relocate if they were taking direct fire. The only people exposed and in danger was the 2 yo and the gun man. The police had all the advantages. This incident makes me angry because it makes professionals look bad. I support the police but when a cop makes a poor decision with such a tragic outcome its really hard to give that support.

@obsidianjane4413

Ай бұрын

@@MrAkaacer Wrong. Every time he fired he had a chance to hit and it would only be a matter of time before he hit an officer or some random person further away. So no, he was an imminent threat.

How is it that I need a licence to have a dog but any POS can have a child with no checks or balances

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

Where do you live where you need a license to own a dog? 🤨

@tessaducek5601

Ай бұрын

Many children live in unstable homes. Often compliments of family court. Look at that dolt from eight passengers.

@_Kittensworth

Ай бұрын

​@@hydrostatic8048Most places in the US have dog license rules, although I don't know how much it's really enforced.

@squidskid4934

Ай бұрын

@@hydrostatic8048most cities you are lawfully mandated to license your dog.

@ohsweetmystery

Ай бұрын

Hmm, by that measure, 90% of people would not be allowed to have children.

The pic on the thumbnail. Breaks my heart. Poor angel baby 😞

@daviegriffin3539

Ай бұрын

This video should've had a Kleenex warning ⚠️. 🥺

Gun safety 101, always identify your target.

@mistrjt9213

Ай бұрын

Gun safety 101.1, always confirm your target.

@move_i_got_this5659

Ай бұрын

He did, but he was mistaken. It's not like he was waiting to blast anyone who walked by.

@mistrjt9213

Ай бұрын

@@move_i_got_this5659 Wonder if the little girl was like: I WANNA SEE!! or if she was being used as a human shield, or if she went to her Dad for safety and comfort in that moment and he pushed her away and into the line of fire…?

@richardhart9204

Ай бұрын

@@mistrjt9213 This has nothing to do with gun safety, and you know it.

@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass

Ай бұрын

​@@richardhart9204it has to do with these people's mental safety.

The worst thing in that no one will take interest to comprehend everything that led to this couple being in incredibly hostile situation involving a baby, until it has to become tragic; the personal, financial, societal, familial, domestic, etc, factors. The woman’s death was already a tragedy.

@adotintheshark4848

Ай бұрын

I'm going to say drugs played a large part in it.

@user-wt9it5zz2q

Ай бұрын

Many people choose to live the 'low life' lifestyle. It is completely normal to them.

@ZestySea

27 күн бұрын

Yes, no one has said much about the mother

If it had been a citizen that took that shot they would have charged the citizen.

@pedroh.ferraz511

Ай бұрын

And the citzen could be looking at life in prison

@nomopms1

Ай бұрын

Sick, isn't it?

@somehaloguy9372

Ай бұрын

A citizen wouldn't have been placed on a roof with orders to kill if given the shot. So of course they'd be charged. He was ordered to be there. I'm not defending this idiot, I'm just saying comparing his actions to a regular citizen doesn't work because a regular citizen would never be in such a situation as this

@spidermonkeynuts3851

Ай бұрын

That’s just not true.

@southboundguitar

Ай бұрын

@@somehaloguy9372Use your imagination, guy. He wasn’t saying THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. We ALL know that a civilian isn’t going to be placed in a snipers nest and told to shoot children. He was implying that you use what little bit of imagination that you may, or may not, have….to imagine a similar situation with similar outcomes. Goddamn society is getting stupid.

Well covered Dr G Sniper 1 is guilty of involuntary manslaughter as he did not identify his target before shooting & his defence is "I thought the silhouette was the active shooter" But he was wrong & could not have correctly identified or distinguished the identity of a silhouette from 300+ feet Tragic Eli was evil & a murderer The poor child deserved better but her father & SWAT police failed to protect her

@garrysekelli6776

Ай бұрын

Dr Hispanic democrat.

@seraphcreed840

Ай бұрын

​@@garrysekelli6776you can vote for the wrong person but still have valid opinions elsewhere.

@theeater1756

Ай бұрын

That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.

@Cometcast12

23 күн бұрын

@@garrysekelli6776Who is a Hispanic Democrat?

There is exactly one guilty party in this situation. That animal was firing at the police and nearby homes with his daughter in the line of fire, then let her (or forced her to) look out of a window knowing the windows were targeted. One guilty party.

Imagine the irreparable trauma you have to live with because you accidentally killed a 2 year old?

@AzizSherverzian

Ай бұрын

Assuming he has a conscience to begin with

@KittWiliams

Ай бұрын

Yeah that would be messed up you wouldn’t want to live anymore that would be the worst nightmare

@aussiejewels

Ай бұрын

Sniper 1 may be haunted by Clesslyn's spirit for the rest of his life because he only killed her earthly body...However, a human's soul can never die...

@ehrgeiz0

Ай бұрын

That's risk that comes with the territory.

@Unknown024

Ай бұрын

@@aussiejewels ...huh

Oh this was sad. I imagine the sniper feels bad. That poor woman, so close to being safe only to be killed as she escaped. And the devastation of the innocent child being killed. No winners here 😞😞

So it's 9:25 PM and he removed the night vision because " the target was fairly well illuminated " . I would like to reenact that . Maybe there was some light in the camper . However , given the distance and time , I beg to differ . Most police routinely lie on their reports AND get away with it - even if caught . What if they took cover and waited it out ? He has to sleep sometime . There is always tear gas , etc.

Absolutely horrific.

Due to him removing/not using night vision should prove recklessness.

@ForageGardener

18 күн бұрын

You can't use NV when observing an Illuminated target it will blind you. But thanks for your ignorant opinion :)

How do you mistake the TORSO of a grown man with the HEAD of a 4 year old? how?

@11cabadger

Ай бұрын

This is what I keep wondering. He didn't have a scope so he was shooting a shadow. A grown man vs a two-year-old. What about the size of the heads? I also wonder how Sniper 1 can go into work every day knowing that he killed an innocent child. No PTSD? No remorse? How do you rationalize that? And how does the community feel about having a guy on the force like that? He may not be on the SWAT team but is he still carrying a gun? Will he be able to use it when one of his fellow officers needs backup?

@Hathur

Ай бұрын

Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

sniper with no scope and no spotter and no night vision is just shooting at a house lol

@jinxed_jinxed_3443

Ай бұрын

He was just shooting at anything that moved.

The most important rule for a sniper is they “must be absolutely sure of the identity” of any target. That directive is on page one of the FBI’s Advance Rifle Training manual

@Planetside223

Ай бұрын

OK, but theyre Americans and Americans have an obsession with killing people so I don’t think any amount of rules are going to change a cultural problem.

@notozknows

Ай бұрын

Shameful cop.

@jerryw6699

Ай бұрын

Absolutely, But, without seeing what Sniper One saw, I cannot judge, he, may have been 100% sure, in his mind, that the target was the man, it's called human error, happens all the time, still just an awful, tragic event.

@rachelgooden9981

Ай бұрын

He was absolutely sure though . That’s the thing. Just like how people having delusions are absolutely sure that what they are seeing is real. Reality is subjective ! Scary! He shouldn’t be working anymore.

@Olive131

Ай бұрын

It wasn't the cops fault. It was her father's fault.

Shocking on many levels.

God take the soul of this little girl and her mother home 😢

@AK-rv6dq

Ай бұрын

You're on KZread...

If you can't tell the difference between a child's head and a man's torso,you shouldn't be taking that shot.

@rosemadder5547

Ай бұрын

The same way people are 100% sure they see a bigfoot, and we all know it's just a tree...

@BridMhor

Ай бұрын

She was standing on the sofa, so looked like an adult to the sniper.

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

@@BridMhor lol, you mean like when 2 kids stand on eachothers shoulders to look like an adult? Lmao that is nutty

@theeater1756

Ай бұрын

That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.

@AK-rv6dq

Ай бұрын

​@@theeater1756uvalde were confirmed coward cops

It sounds like Eli was using his daughter as a human shield

@nixm9093

Ай бұрын

Hamas tactics

@noodles5004

Ай бұрын

100% piece of crap.

@Hathur

Ай бұрын

Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.

@samhilton4173

Ай бұрын

@Hathur You are misunderstanding the phrase "human shield" with its literal origins. Google the phrase and learn. The phrase can be used to indicate any physical hostage (even if they dont know they are a hostage) if it prevents immediate direct assault by law enforcement.

@Hathur

Ай бұрын

@@samhilton4173 This is a law enforcement matter. I have 2 family members who are LEOs, they say "human shield", to police, means a VERY different thing than "hostage". "Human shield" is the most dire form of hostage as it means police likely cannot shoot without a marksman present as the suspect is holding a person between them and police. A hostage on the other hand is just someone being prevented from leaving safely or under threat of violence if they try to leave, but are not actively held between the police and suspect.

This is horrendous…

Sniper 1 has imprisoned himself by living with the fact he killed a 2 year old child, probably the same age as his daughter if he has a kid. A prison without walls.

@wpeniche

Ай бұрын

Doubtful since he’s still a cop. Any person who isn’t a narcissistic asshole would have left law enforcement or any profession involving firearms. But then again 43% are wife beaters so makes sense.

@sanepillow59

Ай бұрын

He still belongs inside a prison WiTH walls

@lebumjames1373

Ай бұрын

eh this is a really hard cope lol. he's probably a sociopath and in reality it probably won't affect him long term. life isn't a movie where the bad guy always loses.

@stewpidasso8810

Ай бұрын

Yeah right he probably sleeps like a baby under a blue line flag blanket

@kevinc809

Ай бұрын

Why do you know him?

That poor, sweet child. Such a terrible tragedy.

Some children just never have a chance because of the parents they are unfortunate to have.

The father is 100 percent responsible for putting his child in this situation.

@josephblow

Ай бұрын

Totally agree that the father is 100% responsible for putting his daughter in the situation, but the officer who fired at a silhouette that he couldn't be 100% certain wasn't the child bears some responsibility for her death.

@crashbangwhallopwhatavideo

Ай бұрын

Exactly. The mother was 100% correct trying to flee without her child...

@cogitokayla8070

Ай бұрын

The fact that the mother let the child live with the father at all is questionable af, but her trying to flee in this situation was understandable.

@spacecats3649

Ай бұрын

Yep, people tend to forget that.

@CytoplasmicGoo

Ай бұрын

It’s an incorrect logic. Would you say the same thing if the cops simply tossed a grenade through the window? While the father is mostly to blame, he did not shoot his daughter, the cop who played eeny meeny miney moe with a high power rifle did.

Eli a special kind of evil.

Dude could afford an arsenal, but couldn't afford a real home for his kid... He also could have let his daughter leave the trailer at anytime before or during the shootout. His demands about having his sister come to get her was simply a way of delaying. Eli murdered his own daughter. He just used a cop to do it.

The issue is not the mistake itself, it's the double standard for police officers where they aren't held accountable for things a non-officer would be.

Thanks for giving your thoughts on this horrible event! That’s why I subscribed. Thanks for keeping your politics out of it.

I can’t imagine how that shooter felt after that mistake… I’d be torn apart indefinently

@persephoneszeliga

Ай бұрын

These cops don’t care

@hvacmaniac5751

Ай бұрын

@@persephoneszeliga when you generalize like that “these cops”.. you begin to aid to the problem man, that’s not a smart way look at it imo. It pays to look at situations individually not as a whole. Especially given the situation the officer was in.

@persephoneszeliga

Ай бұрын

@@hvacmaniac5751 well until you’ve walked on my shoes, your opinion is moot

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

​@@persephoneszeligahe's right, that's bigotry.

@hvacmaniac5751

Ай бұрын

@@persephoneszeliga I had no idea KZread gave you the highest honour of only having your opinion heard, I am sorry

“We investigated ourselves and we did nothing wrong” shocker.

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

Trite

@ilynx2008

Ай бұрын

The Gestapo used to do exactly the same thing!

@JaceB-tf3vf

Ай бұрын

@@ilynx2008omg 😱😱😱 their leader also used toilet paper!!!

@ehrgeiz0

Ай бұрын

Most of the time, it's true. On a few occasions, there's a coverup.

@sanepillow59

Ай бұрын

US police departments get trained by Israeli Army and it really shows

I find the statement that ppl are judging the sniper harshly bc a little girl died to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard said. If ppl don’t judge someone harshly for killing an adorable little girl, when exactly are ppl meant to judge someone harshly?

Basic firearm safety- know your target and what's beyond it before firing. It's a rule all responsible, law abiding firearm owners are expected to follow, even in self defense situations. Had he followed those basic rules, that child would likely still be here. If someone kicks my door open at 3am, I fire, miss and happen to hit a neighbor, I'm responsible for every round and that's fair imo. What I'm sick of is this double standard for the blue line gang where they get to just spray and pray with zero responsibility! What ever happened to holding the police to a *HIGHER* standard?!? I keep hearing that they're the ones with all this great training and on the extreme end, we've got people saying that they should be the only people who can even carry a firearm, shouldn't those people who are supposed to be the experts also be more accountable when they make fatal errors?

@coll4455

Ай бұрын

100%

@Unpainted_Huffhines

Ай бұрын

F*ring at a silhouette in a window is no different than a hunter f*ringinto a bush because he heard a rustling. It's obvious he didn't intend to hit the kid, but he's still responsible for the shot he took at a target he wasn't sure about.

@markmike7933

Ай бұрын

i dunno...i get the feeling that guy wasn't gonna let his kid live. he used her as a shield. either way, the shoot was a bad call...but i wasn't there getting fired at

@sandrachebo

Ай бұрын

Would you hold the military in a firefight or other situation to the same shooting standards? Responsible for each bullet? No "casualties of war" ? Always know your target? Police did a remarkable job in holding off for hours, trying to get the girl out safe and the father to give up. The dad had his own agenda. The police are not and can't be perfect in everything Everytime. That is an absurd expectation. No matter how good they train, they can't account for all the variables ... especially by a crazy madman with weapons of unknown quantity and type... and evil enough to use his toddler as a snipers target instead of himself.

@hatethetube46

Ай бұрын

@@sandrachebomembers of the military are absolutely held accountable for mistakes that kill civilians.

Thank you Dr Todd Grande for your analysis..

The police investigated themselves and determined that this murder was justified.

@diegobrando1100

Ай бұрын

The fault ultimately lies with her insane father. The dangerous situated was created entirely by him

I wish I never clicked on this, so fucking tragic and disturbing

@hSquaredSunshine

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I stopped 3 minutes in when I really read the title.

@breathnstop

Ай бұрын

Definitely guilty of negligent homicide but cops are never held accountable unless they are not the complexion of protection.

@joycedudzinski9415

Ай бұрын

REALLY 🤯🤯🤯

@user-st6nt4ou6f

Ай бұрын

Me too. 😢😢

The father didn’t care about his daughter. He could have allowed her leave. He wanted the Police to kill both of them…he wasn’t going to allow Clesslynn to live without him but he couldn’t kill her himself. The father is totally guilty.

@Kinann

Ай бұрын

He obviously didn't care about her, he named her Clesslynn, after all.

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

And the mother precipitated the whole event by calling the police. Let's tell the whole story.

@aarondavis8943

Ай бұрын

​@@hydrostatic8048 Pure nonsense.

@aarondavis8943

Ай бұрын

No one is disputing that. Two things can be true at once. It doesn't have to be all one thing or all the other. The sniper shouldn't have taken the shot.

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

​​@@aarondavis8943How so, Did you watch the video? It's unequivocally what happened.

Too many SWAT teams imho. It seems as if every agency has a SWAT Team. The original intent of these teams was to assemble a highly trained and specialized unit that could be deployed to terrorist incidents, a need that became evident after the 1972 Munich massacre. While most major cities do have specialized teams that spend their entire time training and/or responding, too many agencies have part-time SWAT teams, and some of the members do not have the opportunity for constant training. I saw this repeatedly in my 27 years in federal law enforcement.

@sandrachebo

Ай бұрын

They usually work as police officers until called up for SWAT duties as needed.

People must understand the criminal has no obligation to decency; however, law enforcement does. Never shoot at lights, shadows, noises etc. His assessment was flat out wrong😮

@samhilton4173

Ай бұрын

But a father is obligated to not put his daughter in danger. Fathers fault 100%.

@rpc717

Ай бұрын

The criminal has 100% obligation to decency. Ignoring that obligation is what makes them the criminal.

@theeater1756

Ай бұрын

That's why they held back at Uvalde. Lot of kids and chaos.

@danielvillarini1777

Ай бұрын

I think he is saying that it is ludicrous to assume this criminal will act rationally after he essentially just threw his entire life away. Nothing to lose. His criminal actions are going to be criminal and irrational in this situation. The bar for the sniper is not anywhere near as low as that and is held to a certain standard to protect the innocent at all cost. He saw something and essentially tossed a coin and hoped he was right. That is not how you protect the innocent. Think about context when reading text and don't just take it literally because he could have typed the wrong word which changes the entire tone of the text. I mean, only if you believe that "People make mistakes", right?

US army Firearms training taught me: Never pull the trigger until you have a clear sight picture. Another thing I learned in the army is: When you/people are getting shot at, it's hard to stay calm and focused. Heartfelt condolences to the family. So, so sad.

@wmpx34

Ай бұрын

Armchair warrior school taught me that everyone thinks they would react perfectly in every situation

@jerryw6699

Ай бұрын

@@wmpx34and the school of Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

@fuferito

Ай бұрын

I hear and respect what your comment says, but unfortunately, these factors would not apply to a well hidden, out of the way sniper whose job description includes keeping a cool and calm demeanor.

@darthkek1953

Ай бұрын

Call of Duty taught me to t-bag downed opponents.

The analysis was spot on.

Always interesting Thank you ❤️

How do you confuse a childs head for a mans torso? You dont think its odd that this torso doesnt have a head on top and arms coming out of it? 🤦

I wonder if the dad purposely put her up high. Sad all around

@richardmcquade9832

Ай бұрын

He could have also had his daughter in his arms with his back to the window. It was essentially a hostage situation, especially since the commander wouldn't allow the aunt to rescue the child. Sniper knew that there was a young daughter essentially being held hostage and was under orders, and a moral obligation, to make damn sure of daughter's safety.

Thanks for sorting out the facts

This whole situation makes me so sad.

I agree with you on the silhouette part. With todays scopes he should have seen what he was firing at

@kingcosworth2643

Ай бұрын

The zoom, the scenario, are there trees ad bushes in the way, windows covered in crap, sometimes it's just not so straightforward

Think about it, that poor baby was so used to her father's outbursts that she was just casually standing on the couch while her dad was firing his gun off. 🥺🥺 Hopefully her and her mommy are together now and safe 🙏🏻🕊🤍

@sarahalderman3126

Ай бұрын

The little girl died. Mom did not. So yeah...

@intentionallyleftblank3016

Ай бұрын

2:42 “Eli used a handgun to shoot Taylor twice - once in the head, and once in the neck. Taylor did not survive.” 💔

Oh my God… There are no words for this horrific event.

Simply heartbreaking.

How could that mother stand to be apart from such a darling little daughter? How could she hand custody to the father with mental problems? That poor baby.

@Dh-rp7gg

Ай бұрын

Maybe the Court gave custody to the father. We don't know the circumstances around why he had her.

@ArtU4All

Ай бұрын

Don’t blame the victim.

@MarysMaamCave

Ай бұрын

It’s hard to leave an abusive relationship, often fatal.

@adotintheshark4848

Ай бұрын

it could be the courts forced her, or else she was as unfit as he was.

@peterwilson7532

Ай бұрын

She was a piece of crap, women are not actually made of candy.

I recently saw police helicopter footage of a chase and shooting. A man had killed his wife and taken his daughter and ended up trapped between about 7 patrol cars on the highway. He started shooting at the cops and they all returned fire from two sides. The 15 yr old girl ran out of the car and while one officer told her to come to them the officers on the other side shot her multiple times, killing her. There were roubds flying everywhere with zero thought given to the girl being in the car, which they knewabout before even finding the car.

@user-si4ly9mn7v

Ай бұрын

Dr. Grande analyzed that case a few days ago.

@Skenderbeuismyhero

Ай бұрын

@@user-si4ly9mn7v oh, thanks

Such a tragic situation

Thanks Dr.

A disgrace, just disgraceful.

With or without criminal charges, his life has changed dramatically for ever. I feel so bad for him. I hope he finds peace

Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! I also agree that, although Sniper 1 may indeed have acted recklessly, there are just too many exculpatory factors involved to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, that I honestly believe this officer should have been convicted of manslaughter. I would however be in favor of a suspension, not to mention a thorough re-training. This was after all an incredibly tragic mistake that could have been avoided, had the officer in question been more diligent in the task of taking out a violent madman. Sincere condolences to the family of little Clesslynn and her mother Taylor. 💐✝💐

The sniper violated one of the most important rules of ”know what you are shooting at.” He didn’t know, he guessed. That imho is reckless and if my husband or I had done the same thing we would have been prosecuted.

Dr. Grande, you didn't comment on the police refusal to allow the sister to collect the child when the perpetrator repeatedly sought to implement this safety measure for his daughter. The sister was willing to assume all risks; perhaps she should have been allowed to collect the child.

@tessaducek5601

Ай бұрын

Perhaps. But if they permitted her to and she was killed. Your comment would place blame on police. He was unhinged they rarely take chances to place someone else in danger.

@harryb2545

Ай бұрын

When you are dealing with imminent danger, threats, violence and potential death of a two year old baby-EVERYTHING is negotiable!! I don’t care what the SWAT manual says! This is a two year old angel! Sister should have been allowed to accept this risk for her helpless niece ClessLynn. Any of us would have risked the same for our own family. The father wanted her out of the camper and away from the chaos so he could finish his battle and ultimately his life with death by LE and know she was safe. We know this to be true because of his actions after he witnessed his daughter’s death, he said “You shot my daughter””I love you” and immediately turned his weapon on himself. He was never going to hurt his daughter. Poor little soul may she rest in eternal peace.

@NoAgendaReviews

Ай бұрын

​@@harryb2545 Nope. If he actually loved his daughter, he would have let the daughter walk out first. Or better yet, he would walk out first. He loved his ego more or was on a drug-trip. Police made the right choice by not letting the sister in.

Baxter Springs is a beautiful little town. I don't remember hearing this story

@BillieYoung-tl5qr

Ай бұрын

It's my favorite town,I live in the edge of Galena but I'm in Baxter constantly my GMA was from there

@carlamarlene2927

Ай бұрын

@@BillieYoung-tl5qr chetopa is pretty too.

Tough call on the recklessness issue

Awe. This one was hard to hear. Just horrible. The whole situation. 😔

She managed to trick the sniper by standing on the couch.

Everyone criticizing the sniper: Don’t forget: Eli had talked about killing his own daughter… there was a lot of pressure on the sniper. He made a mistake. I don’t think he should be held criminally liable since there very obviously was no intent to hurt an innocent child. I do blame the dumbass who made the decision not to let the sister go in and defuse the situation...

@karkitty202

Ай бұрын

No intent but he did. Drunk drivers don't have intent to kill kids either but they do. If anything shouldn't a drunk driver be held less responsible than this guy, considering sniper 1 was sober and trained?

@josuesuperstar

Ай бұрын

Are you dump?

@roginutah

29 күн бұрын

Sniper HAD the intent to kill. And from the safety of his 300'+ distance. And in the dark. And he was/had been the SWAT Team Captain? He gets a break because he wasn't careful? 'Oops. My bad.'

@jlee8348

29 күн бұрын

He shot a 2 year old in the head.

@alexursus4719

28 күн бұрын

So the father wanted to kill his daughter and the sniper decided to kill the girl himself? Great logic dude

This was a completely avoidable tragedy. De-escalation of the initial domestic violence call would have been a wiser move. RIP Clesslynn. Apparently, no one in your short life had your best interests at heart.

Oh my God. That poor young sniper. I can not even imagine... all that said. Dang. Wth.....ultimately I think the responsibility lies with the man putting his family in danger. But im a nobody

@m.j.e.5245

Ай бұрын

Lol, you're sympathizing with the reckless child killer? Whaaa?

Dude was using his daughter as a small human shield.

@Hathur

Ай бұрын

Hostage, not human shield. He was not holding the girl infront of him at any point as a barrier against police. The child was walking freely inside the camper. Sniper confused her for the gunman because she stood on some furniture. His failure to use his night vision optics meant he could only see her silhouette, which looked like a grown adult because she stood on furniture. If he had used his night vision optics, he would've seen her frame properly and known it wasn't an adult.

How is it that apparently Eli had full custody of the little girl, Clesslyn. His wife knew how unhinged he was & so should never have left her alone with Eli. What a horrifying, tragic event.

If the father had cooperated with the police, he, his wife and daughter would still be alive.

@stansmiley9737

Ай бұрын

Exactly!!

@PhullyNo1

Ай бұрын

His daughter didn’t have a choice, the shooter did.

@WoodyWard

Ай бұрын

Yeah, right 🙄

@gavinjenkins899

Ай бұрын

Two different people can both cooperate with inappropriate behavior to kill someone. It is not either/or

@hydrostatic8048

Ай бұрын

The same thing could be said if she didn't call the police to begin with.

Let me get this straight. The police are surprised that people are upset because he shot an innocent two-year-old in the head and they’re justification for this is that those same people would not be upset if he had hit The actual target? Yeah no kidding guys. As yet another member of the public at large, who doesn’t want to be shot to death by the police, I would appreciate it if you could actually see an identify your target.

@robinlavois4483

Ай бұрын

The police situation with few exceptions (😊 Houston p.d is reliable and correct mostly), is a disgusting joke in that part of the U.S.

13:15 oh… Now it makes sense! He himself told his daughter to stand up on the couch, on purpose, to trick them. It otherwise makes no sense she’s be standing there.

This was in the town next to me,so horrible 😢

I went through hunter safety course when I was around 11, the first things they teach you are never point at what you don’t intend to shoot and always know what you are shooting. I don’t think he should have been tried, it was a tough situation. He should only have a desk job from here on out though.

The sniper did not properly identify his target as per the orders he was given. He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He was not ordered to fire at a silhouette.

@Bigstooler0

Ай бұрын

The windows are tinted dark on the RV all you can see is a shadow or outline of anything inside

@rubyoro0

Ай бұрын

@@Bigstooler0. So why is he shooting then?!

@mrparlanejxtra

Ай бұрын

@@Bigstooler0 Do not shoot at them if you are a snuper. Identify your target beyond all doubt.

@gavinjenkins899

Ай бұрын

@@Bigstooler0 if the windows are tinted, and you're only authorized to shoot a specific person, then basic logic dictates you aren't authorized to fire at all then. Too bad, sit tight until/if you can identify.

@sanepillow59

Ай бұрын

@@Bigstooler0 did you actually thought that was a good defense?

Tragic all the way around! RIP beautiful little girl💔💔💔

Thanks so much Dr for another great video you are completely right the situation never would of arose if the elite guy never brought a gun into the situation ❤❤❤ dr you are the best❤❤❤ thanks man

Hadn’t heard of this tragedy. I think your assessment is fair though.

A terrible mistake that the officer will have to live with but I agree with Doc Grande

That swat cop has PTSD for the rest of his life. Desk job from here on. Not using night vision when it is NIGHT, that’s why the city paid up. Had he used the night vision and still shut and killed, the settlement would not have taken place. Even w/night vision the person shooting see what they see. And children’s heads are almost the same size as adults’, esp. at a distance. The error still may have been made. Only one culprit here - the father using his child as a pawn and shield, the killer of the mother. Disgusting. Just awful. Baby girl 🙏 …. 🥺 Rest In Peace Darling.

@ohsweetmystery

Ай бұрын

If he has PTSD, why is he still working as a cop? More likely he never lost a night's sleep about it.

@ArtU4All

Ай бұрын

@@ohsweetmystery If every PTSD Cop would be disqualified we would not have cops. May of them former military. Those have their PTSDs from the device. Stages/sources of PTSD matter too. I wonder whether he/she is allowed a weapon.

@sgtcwhatley

27 күн бұрын

Night vision doesn't work the way you appear to believe. Remember, the interior lights were on in the camper.

How did I not hear about this?! I'm Australian, but this should have been plastered all over the news. Is America that desensitised gun-wise? So many hearts are broken for sure. 😢

@empyreuma

Ай бұрын

Selling guns is big business for yankee doodle elites & they hang onto the outdated right to be armed & sell fear to keep the demand for guns high It's amazing there aren't more accidents & intentional crimes given we can add in mental health issues, human emotions & poor decision making, drugs & alcohol, glorified thug life & the fact that everyone else has a gun in your town & a multiple gun shops USA gun violence & accidents likely to always be problematic & keep increasing because no one wants to lose votes or stop selling violence & fear for profit & the ego maniacs running the show won't ever concede mass gun ownership is a crap idea & huge mistake & they simply don't care about regular folk & innocent kids being killed

@squidskid4934

Ай бұрын

I live in the US but didn’t hear of it either. Yes, we are very desensitized here. 😢

@Mikinaak2023

Ай бұрын

Yup, as a Canadian nothing shocks me anymore regarding gun violence in the States. It's just another day and to be expected actually.

@deeanna8448

Ай бұрын

Yeah, school shootings barely register anymore unless there is an especially high number of dead. I hadn't heard of this either.

@EvilGoodGuy

Ай бұрын

You didn't hear about it because nothing about this scenario is unique to the USA. The father could have been armed with a knife the entire time and it would have not changed anything. Most people in most countries have access to knives and most police in most countries have access to sniper teams.

what a tragic result. the extreme level of incompetence from the police did not help

Oh my God….I’d hate to be that SWAT member. How can he live with himself?

@wolfe6220

Ай бұрын

How can her father?

@grumpyoldlady_rants

Ай бұрын

@@wolfe6220 - Well, he’s dead so….

Heartbreaking

Incompetence is a very very dangerous thing..And it´s a long thin blue line..!!!

What a surprise. 🤦‍♂️ Government protects government. 🤷‍♂️

4:12 Eli introduced the idea of killing his daughter, Clesslynn -- a S.W.A.T. team, in Joplin, Missouri, was called ta assist.

Rip to the victims.heartbreaking

So the cops presided over a situation where everybody got killed. A 911 call was received with a woman whispering that she was in danger and the phone was left on with sounds of an assault occurring. And the police simply knock on the door, like they're selling cookies? They should have immediately gone in (there were 4 of them, there was no mention of a gun, and a direct threat to the victim was heard on the call) and overwhelmed Crawford. It is unlikely then that any of the 3 would have died. Instead, they stayed outside while he assaulted her, then let an obviously violent man know they were outside so of course he armed himself and shot the mom as she left the trailer. In the course of the standoff they killed the kid. Then the monster killed himself, which of course no reasonable person regrets. But the point is - should you expect a person who is in the act of assaulting someone to politely invite you into the residence? Come on! It seems to me they could have prevented the tragedy with prompt action.

@NoAgendaReviews

Ай бұрын

Breonna Taylor and similar incident always start "with no mention of a gun". Busting down the door could have been a worst outcome with all 3 dead again, just with added police injured/dead. What about all the people who get "swatted" from fake calls? Other options include thermal cameras, more snipers/spotters, a robot with shotgun, but doubt you would support funding any of that. it is a no-win scenario and one that will likely continue, especially when the family (that typically did a poor job of parenting), get awarded millions for police incompetence.

@elizabethmulgrew7873

Ай бұрын

@@NoAgendaReviews We see the police do "no knock" entries all the time, in much less urgent situations, such as serving a warrant. They train for it. In this case they outnumbered the offender 4 to 1. The camper was so small there is no place to hide so they didn't need to clear rooms. Contrast this situation with the shooting at the Christian school in Tennessee 3/27/23. There the cops went right in, not knowing for sure how many shooters there were and with numerous rooms and places to hide to be cleared. They didn't stop to take shields, and most of them didn't even have helmets I think. No SWAT team. In about a minute or less they had neutralized the shooter and saved lives. That is courage, dedication and training! It is what the public expects from their law enforcement. Any cop who isn't ready to do that should be off the force! As for "swatting", I think there should be a significant penalty, like jail time! Any time you call 911 you have to give them your name and sometimes your address too. With this call, I think the police could easily defend their actions. Yes, I DO support more/better equipment, robots, snipers/spotters etc! I am not one of the "Defund the police" crowd! Nor do I expect the police to be perfect. But I do get upset when I don't see a willingness to go in harm's way to save lives! "To Protect and Serve" means exactly doing that at times!