Keep on truckin, yo. This is good stuff. I also was turned off by this game after the first two.

@SwannyTheMike

10 күн бұрын

I'm hoping that Suikoden IV will be more a enjoyable for me when I get around to it.

I'm so happy we've crossed internet paths. Fantastic as always buddy.

@SwannyTheMike

10 күн бұрын

Me too! Glad you enjoyed it.

Really enjoyed your video. Great edits, and just a really great review!

@SwannyTheMike

7 күн бұрын

Thanks! I honestly do a lot of the edits to amuse myself while editing, so it always makes me happy to know others enjoy them too.

this is my favorite in the series lol. i mean watching that annoying side kick get offed in the first chapter is AMAZING lol. thank god we didn't have to listen to him throughout the game.

@SwannyTheMike

9 күн бұрын

He was annoying enough that I was surprised that the game managed to make me feel bad for the other characters when he died.

My first Suikoden game was Suikoden 2, then went back to 1 to get the extra character in 2... Then a few years later I grabbed Suikoden 3... And was disappointed as well... I remember being turned off by the 3D and not being a huge fan of the new characters.. I think I didn't even completed Chris first chapter..

@SwannyTheMike

2 күн бұрын

Chris is such a wasted character in her own chapters. The first female protag of Suikoden with a whole stoic knight commander thing going on and the game wastes so much time forcing you to read endless prattling about how much all of her knights think she's hot.

This was good. Take a break. Enjoy July.

Suikoden II is my favorite video game of all time. This game? I have tried to play it and like it multiple times, but I could never torture myself to get even halfway into it. 4 also sucks. ........5 is actually surprisingly great, but I didn't learn that for at least 10 years because I refused to play it after 3 and 4.

@SwannyTheMike

4 күн бұрын

Knowing my weird brain, I'll wind up somehow enjoying 4 lol. Flawed and rushed games I can fuck with. Games that should have been all-time greats, but botch the execution drive me up the wall.

I'll admit I might be really biased. My first Suikoden game, hell, my first turn-based rpg game in general was Suikoden 3. Despite it's flaws I just can't help but love it. The music is a banger, the characters have really cool designs, especially the villains, and though a bit contrived I really enjoy the plot and love that some companions died and there was no way to prevent that. I know the combat system isn't for everyone but I feel like it made fights, in a way, feel more strategic. You had to plan around synergies, combos, and make sure you had a good rune spread to deal damage or heal allies. And the magic just looks so gorgeous in this game. I was so disappointed when Suikoden 4 toned that aspect down. Speaking of, can't wait to see you cover that. I feel about that game how someone coming from Suikoden 1 and 2 felt about this one.

@SwannyTheMike

7 күн бұрын

Enjoy what you enjoy. There's nothing wrong with that. As far as intros to RPGs go, you can certainly do far worse than Suikoden III. I'm very curious about Suikoden IV myself. I've read that it was rushed during development, but my friend who got me into the series has told me that he enjoyed it, so I'm hoping I will too.

Excellent review, and a rare use of If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device as a reaction. Bravo.

@SwannyTheMike

6 күн бұрын

Love me some TTS! Shame that Games Workshop had to be all Games Workshop about fan projects.

@Threvlin

6 күн бұрын

@@SwannyTheMike it sure is good that they hired the guy that made Astartes. I’m so glad we got to see…. So much more of that series! Haha… ha. As much as I miss TTSD, I gotta say Hunter the Parenting has been fantastic so far, as someone who knows even less about world of darkness than 40k.

@SwannyTheMike

5 күн бұрын

@@Threvlin Oh God, I'd finally stopped thinking about how they wasted Astartes... And yeah, Hunter the Parenting is fantastic! Never in my life did I think I'd be so captivated by a man's quest to purchase a blender for 99 pence.

@Threvlin

5 күн бұрын

@@SwannyTheMike absolutely enthralling.

To top S-II you need to top Jowy, Shu and Luca Blight himself. They only managed to do something at level of Nanami by S-V and then the series died to a heart attack.

@SwannyTheMike

9 күн бұрын

No kidding. I wasn't even the biggest fan of Jowy (mostly found his reasoning asinine, but hey, he's the villain after all) but Luc was such a weak villain that I'm reassessing my opinions on Jowy.

Canonically, Hugo is the flame champ that is chosen. Geddoe has the true lightning and Chris has the true water rune.

@SwannyTheMike

9 күн бұрын

It makes sense that Hugo would be the canonical flame champ. He fits the mold the best for the typical Suikoden protag.

I always saw so many people say Suikoden 3 was their favorite or second favorite and I always questioned why. I hated the trio protagonists, hated the way combat worked in pairs, didn't like the way war battles were. It was. So many characters were forgettable. I'm the fish, I know. My order of preference was always 2,5,1,4,3... Three was the weakest, though seeing returning characters were nice.

@SwannyTheMike

8 күн бұрын

Like I said in the video, I can totally see why someone who started with III viewing that as their favorite. It's the ones who played I and II before that and still prefer III that confuse me.

This video made me realize that I didn't really enjoyed S3. I just love Suikoden franchise so much that I found it playable.

@SwannyTheMike

9 күн бұрын

I honestly wonder if it was intended to be a Suikoden game initially. Because it distances itself so much from the first two that feels like Suikoden III doesn't want to be part of the series.

Had to search the ebony thing, god I have regrets...

@SwannyTheMike

7 күн бұрын

My Immortal claims another victim...

None of those early gaming magizine reviews never actually finish the entire game before review and giving it a positive 80% isn't unusual and on early reflection fair. If any of them completed the game, I'm sure their tone would have changed DRASTICALLY. To this day, the thought of spending 70 hours on this game... Thank god for the speed throttle button on emulators now a days!

@SwannyTheMike

8 күн бұрын

In fairness (God help me, I'm defending early game reviewers...), those magazines typically had about half a dozen reviewers at most. Doing a video every other week was driving me up the wall, so I can only imagine how rushed the process was for those folks having to review damn near everything that came out each month.

Used to live in Wisconsin. Definitely knew some packers fans. Hahahaha.

@bastardferret869

6 күн бұрын

Also, good video. I happened to like this entry, but that was years ago. Mostly I liked the ducks.

@SwannyTheMike

5 күн бұрын

As a Vikings fan, I'm contractually obligated to insult Packers fans. And honestly, who could blame you for liking the ducks? The ducks are the best part of the game!

But they fixed everything in IV, right? Right??

@SwannyTheMike

8 күн бұрын

Oh totally! Brand new team in charge, rushed development cycle, Konami being Konami, Suikoden IV has all the ingredients for an unmitigated disaster- I mean, success! Hopefully the low expectations will help that one hurt me less than III did.

Text Adventure

@SwannyTheMike

6 күн бұрын

I have been meaning to play Zork, but I don't exactly know what that has to do with Suikoden III?

Never did get into this franchise but I kind of continued on with breath of fire still pissed we still haven't a complete version of the breath of fire Games not cool Capcom not cool at all

@SwannyTheMike

10 күн бұрын

You'd think Capcom of all companies would be all about selling another big collection of games. But I guess they'd rather churn out the hundredth Mega Man collection instead.

As someone who played the game on release, yeah, it was a pretty big disappointment. Dumping the more morally gray reasonings that Suikoden 2 prided itself on to instead focus on...Look, I thought Luc was okay in previous games, but to make him the reason...I dunno. Bad things are happening? Felt very...lazy. They had made an interesting reason for conflict, they just needed to drive it home, and utterly failed. And yeah, the new army mechanic was painful to get through. *Spoiler* From what I remembered, the reason Luc was doing everything was to free Leknaat from being forced to be...I dunno. Bound by destiny...Basically he wanted to free her? Or something? ...Sigh, this game was dumb. I don't think the series gets back on a decent footing until Suikoden V, which...also has issues, but is...better...? Rose tinted glasses might be messing with me on that game though.

@SwannyTheMike

8 күн бұрын

Luc's whole villain arc felt ripped from so many anime I watched as a kid. Especially the "he had a sad backstory and good intentions, so that makes him a complex character, not a monster" line of reasoning that Suikoden III seems to push. He and Sarah just ramble on and on about morality, fate, destiny, etc. without ever actually saying something meaningful regarding any of those topics. Nor do they ever get seriously challenged by the protagonists on their bullshit beyond essentially "lol nope".

@jakl-em8df

8 күн бұрын

@@SwannyTheMike Yeah, I agree. I think what also irritated me was just...HOW many times the villains pulled out a 'Nu uh, you didn't beat me, this was just my first form!' before bamfing out, or beating the party in the later cutscene. As you highlighted in your video, Suikoden III really lacks that...followthrough of a punishment for bad decisions or bad actions that really highlighted in the previous game. You trusted the wrong person? Someone died. Did something bad? Came back and bit you in the ass. Good intentions? Doesn't matter if you don't have the strength to back them up. For your sanity's sake, Suikoden IV and V might be better to compare them to THIS game over Suikoden 2, because...It gets better than III, but won't ever reach that same height of awesome.

@SwannyTheMike

8 күн бұрын

@@jakl-em8df It always drives me insane when games pull that "you didn't actually win" crap. Just have me lose the damn fight if that's what your story demands! And I'm definitely going into IV & V with much lower hopes/expectations.

only disappointment would be you.

@SwannyTheMike

7 күн бұрын

I tell myself that every time I look in the mirror. Get on my level, scrub.

Didn't like this entry. Every time I played it it put me to sleep so I was like nope

@SwannyTheMike

9 күн бұрын

I didn't hit that point until Luc started showing up more. All that initially interesting story tossed aside so we can have cliche 2000s anime villain #34.