Thanks for watching! I plan on doing this again before worlds, so let me know what I should do differently!

@zeitz4473

Ай бұрын

I think the rankings overemphasized regional play. Also 1v1 is not in the RLCS so its inconsistent with your other metrics. MENA is a region i adore but they lack accomplishments apart from 2 tournament runs its hard to rate them high on greatest to ever play RLCS while I do think the players themselves are incredible. I do think finding th3 best player statistically will always face criticism cause some things are hard to quantify. I enjoyed this video. Looking forward to the next one :)

@strawsquash

Ай бұрын

⁠1s shouldn’t be in it at all imo. We’ve seen rentals beet fairy peak many times in 1s, and he wasn’t even on that list. As you said, he was the greatest, but not the best, it’s like the lebron vs Jordan debate. I’d say a better way to look at the 1s would be to look at the leader board or to not have it at all.

@pabloruedaarzoz8065

Ай бұрын

@@strawsquash It was Flakes, not rentals smh, and Fairy is not only the greatest, but 2018 Fairy is the best 1s player ever, there are very few peaks which compare. Though I agree, If you want to talk about only the RLCS, then 1v1 has no place

@strawsquash

Ай бұрын

@@pabloruedaarzoz8065 um no, retals has beaten fairy many times before, maybe not in show matches but countless times in ranked. Tf is you on about fucking clown

@heffe

Ай бұрын

This was a great video but some of the weight and metrics were kinda weird to me. A lot of the rate stats screw over players who have played way longer, like Turbo and Garrettg. It's still such an amazing video, man. Great job!

Chausettes impact should be 30 for getting everyone to use fennec

@williamarras

Ай бұрын

w shout

@nuiscope5323

Ай бұрын

I literally said the same thing when he said he'd take him off the list. Dude single handedly converted the entire player base to start using the fennec after popping off at dreamhack and beyond the summit. But non-rlcs so what can ya do

@reakin_rl

Ай бұрын

fr

@PBRAEF

Ай бұрын

But why call yourself socks

@konradn205

Ай бұрын

yes and no. he defo pushed the meta forward really really quickly but anyways it would’ve happened pretty soon eventually just looking at high level players and rank warriors especially in the mena region who were one of the first to use it

I had no Idea of rocket league E sports before this video, but I might get into it. Nice video I can tell a lot of effort went into this, keep it up!

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@icedglizzy1403

Ай бұрын

If you do get into RLCS, I recommend you don’t cheer for a specific team or player but instead just try to enjoy the great plays and game with no bias.

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

100% agreed

@icedglizzy1403

Ай бұрын

@@_CRUMP_ lol cheering for a team (like I do) makes it harder to enjoy everything. But it does make it rly fun to win

@okbro978

Ай бұрын

If you're interested the pro circut (RLCS) will be holding events starting in late april, with brodcasts of the matches happening on friday, saturday, and sunday. Check liquipidea for more info on the tounements.

“No one is definitively the most clutch” Yes, it’s Rise. And he’s not on the list :(

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

yeah, tbh idk how I forgot about him

@aidenguo5580

Ай бұрын

@@_CRUMP_ Just to hammer home this point a little more: Most goals on LAN - Rise. Most goals per game on LAN - Rise. Most OT goals on LAN - Rise. Best statistical player on KC this previous major - Rise (Atow has a better overall rating bc of Swiss, but Rise had a better rating + outperformed both his tm8s significantly in the playoffs).

@awkwious4030

Ай бұрын

did you not see how hard he shit the bed in game 7 against gentlemates

@Danny-nc2cg

Ай бұрын

@@_CRUMP_OT goals and saves as well as 0 second goals would be good stats to measure this

@tobijanssen1518

Ай бұрын

to be fair rise is 1-4 in LAN finals, I know he's clutch in individual games but in overall tournaments I wouldn't say so

For your longevity stat, I would recommend for remaking it to only include events where they were top 16. It will fix things like rizzo, and reward those that are still competing only if they’re actually making achievements.

Kaydop impact stat is way too low, he is the single reason why France is domanating the game rn. He is the most viewed rl streamer too (3-5k viewers every evening). I know he isn't really famous internationally but his national fame make up for it imo. He inspired too much people to just be 7.5 on Impact.

@dylb0t

Ай бұрын

Dude is almost single-handedly responsible for the entirety of the state of the French scene rn, it’s insane.

@jackspinner1945

Ай бұрын

Saying that one player has solely brought up the best region in the world is insane. The only crazier thing would be to deny it

@dylb0t

Ай бұрын

@@jackspinner1945 had me in the first half ngl

@JohnSmithlol2584

Ай бұрын

If Kaydop didnt exist NA would actually win LAN events and I'm not being ironic 🤣

@Jsbtn_

Ай бұрын

that is bringing france to the map not impact since he didnt influence the game so much.

Seeing the iconic goal at champions field fade in as the number one slot was being announced was something that genuinely made me smile, I’m glad NA had any representation at all in the top 5 but the first spot is more than I could’ve hoped for

Not opposed to JSTN at 1 by any means, Zen is Jstn just with modern day mechs. If jstn had all the mechanics we have today, he’d be the same as zen

@Doakey

Ай бұрын

Completely agree. The hype around JSTN back then as a mechanical prodigy is similar to the hype being seen around Zen. Now I think Zen has definitely surpassed him with his dominance in events this early on, but JSTN still definitely deserves the praise and respect.

@AnwarNaushad

Ай бұрын

idk about jstn being as good as zen if only he had similiar mechs, i mean, there are other factors that make a great player for example MM is not on the same level of mechs as zen or firstkiller however he has always been near the top of rlcs

@leedsparkman8940

Ай бұрын

@@AnwarNaushadI would believe that Jstn would be a better rounded player based on mechs him and zen are similar if placed in the same time period also the struggle for jstn even getting to a spot on NRG was a struggle meanwhile zen was placed straight into Vitality yet he was there for previous achievements so that was probably known I think if zen wins 2 more rlcs then he will probably be the definitive goat of rocket league and many people would agree. In my opinion I think if jstn were placed now with the same skills as zen jstn would come on top due to defensive skills and game awareness I think zens career has and will be a lot to come for him. This is an opinion so don’t take it to seriously but I am open for responses😊

@AnwarNaushad

Ай бұрын

@@leedsparkman8940idk if i'm understanding your comment completely so feel free to correct me, zen isnt all mechanics, u cant be the best with just flashy mechanics, i would confidently say that zens game awareness is better than jstns

@KaleTornado

Ай бұрын

Jstn's mechanics are modern day. His playstyle and mentality are what hold him back.

That jimmyhighroller video was absurdly well made and pretty ground breaking in the basketball statistic community. The influence that video had on this is evident and extremely well made. Your doing things that you don’t see other people do in this community at all. Keep it up, I guarantee this will influence people to get into the RL statistic landscape. This video is going to blow up very soon.

@_tim.

Ай бұрын

jimmys the goat

Zen being #4 with a 0.4 longevity stat is absurd. He’s so far ahead of everybody else it’s staggering.

@IsaiasSoldier2

Ай бұрын

You can be far ahead of everyone but if you cant consistently do it then it defeats your case for being the goat. People said that for Kronovi at first, squishy for a chunk of time, Jstn, scrubkilla, and as time continued, people keep choosing new people. Daniel, and now Zen. Zen could easily do it but can he actually prove it consistently.

@AndreAs-yq1wh

Ай бұрын

He also own goaled at finals

@leedsparkman8940

Ай бұрын

@@IsaiasSoldier2you should also case in the factor that the peak of dignatas they had an incredible 3 of kaydop turbo and violent panda so I would say impact against great teams could be a factor but that would take a long time this could be said for kcorp now as many people say they are best in France but everyone else says vitality

@Chizinky

Ай бұрын

@@AndreAs-yq1wh and still won

@justarelaxednerd3520

Ай бұрын

NO ?

MA BOI USED FULL ON EQUATIONS

Amazing video and fantastic list. I'm eager to see how the list changes when you update the weighting of the formula! Can't wait!!

Been looking forward to this video since you replied to my post on Reddit. Incredible stuff man. Really glad this landed in my recommended.

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Easily one of the best rocket league videos of all time! The info, the energy, the moments and especially the WORK that you’ve put in to this video is insane. I highly doubt there will be another video better than this the near future! And btw shout out to your roomate🫡!

Despite there obviously being some mistakes, this is a great concept for a video (and a great video itself). I'm looking forward to seeing the updated version after worlds!

Banger video! I'm actually surprised with the outcome and am already exited for the next one before worlds.

Excellent work enjoyed watching it all ! Imo Zen and Vatira will go far upper pretty soon :) Ty for the vid

hella underrated video, probably because it's your first rocket league video(from what I've seen scrolling through your channel)

lmao at running through all this work and then clarifying that Kaydop is, obviously, the GOAT. Great work!

I’m not even opposed to Jstn at #1 it’s well deserved

@karwat2577

Ай бұрын

idkkkkk

@BiasedSpursFan

Ай бұрын

most reasonable NA fan:

@4maticeperformance4doorcoupe

Ай бұрын

@@karwat2577 Bro have you watched S5, S6, S7, S8? You would know that Jstn obliterated each and every single player at that time.

@Ben-gd4db

Ай бұрын

​@@4maticeperformance4doorcoupeHe only ever won one LAN outside of NA even with two of the most solid LAN players ever helping. You don't get GOAT status from dominating a weak NA scene when EU was the powerhouse region

@SealSenior

Ай бұрын

imo it should be turbopolsa at #1 but jstn would also be up there!

Awesome video ! I'll be waiting for the next list before worlds. I miss seeing jstn on lan.

I‘d love to see the revamped version of this that you‘ll do before worlds actually being showed at worlds - I never saw a vid about ranking players in rl that fcking good, great job :)

As a JXmyhighroller fan and fan of RLCS, this is an amazing video! 🔥 can’t wait for the video before worlds.

Awesome video man, I'm sure a crazy amount of work went into this.

You can surely see Jstn's impact when even though he is not going to LANs and etc, still, as soon as he pops up a new car design, every single pro starts using it as well, crazy impact on the scene ever since before his arrival on NRG

amazing video need more of this in the community 13:30 had me actually laughing 😭

Dude i just overlooked your channel, how you went from weekly gameplays to suddenly dropping this masterpiece of research and editing

I personally love jimmy high roller and think you nailed his style. Can’t wait for the next edition!

T’was a beautiful watch. I can’t wait for this to hit the rest of the rocket league community

really cool and well put together video, great job! I disagree with some of the criteria and the valuation of it, but that's something everyone disagrees on. also rise not in the most clutch players is absolutely criminal you deserve jailtime for that

I did not expect this level of quality. Had a couple good laughs! 😁👍

One of the greatest RL vids I have watched in a while! Loved the concept as I am a big stats man myself and always wondered what would happen if you put it all together. Cannot believe Deevo didn't make it (#scammed). Also think Al0t should 100% be in the convo as the stuff he was doing back in the day was way ahead of his time. Kaydop is my Goat tho and you cannot change my mind. Loved the vid and can't wait for the next one before worlds!

This video was actually incredible. Well done!

Truly can’t believe you left CJCJ, Ferra and al0t off the list but this is incredibly well done and I applaud the work you put 🤝🏼 would love some more content like this

this is some good content didnt expect a jxmy fan here

the fact i literally watched the nba video today and thought how good it was, this is such a great video idea

Can't imagine how much time went into this!!! Greatest RL video in a long time

Do not agree with the en result but fantastic video. My suggestion for the subjective categories is to ask to the community or talk with rlcs people, im sure johnnyboi would love to help. Waiting for the 2nd part.

hey your video was great i loved watching it continue like that its so cool, i think maybe you can include the fact that the mechanic werent the same now and at the start of e sport rocket league

I’m just happy you mentioned al0t in this video at all. Bro was hitting zen shots in 2017

very good video, can’t wait to see the one before worlds!

Great video!!! This needs more attention!!!

I'd love to see a video like this for disc golf!

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Never really thought about that, I might give it a shot at some point!

You earned a new sub excellent quality and we agree on which the goat is

justin was always my favorite player i always loved seeing him at the top of sunlesses old pro ranking videos

holy underrated. amazing vid bro

This was an insanely good video. You earnt a sub

Love the video. I think if you do this again i would somehow divide LAN categories Major and World Championship. Majors are not around that long and they take away from the accomplishment of winnig one or multiple World Championships. Turbo, Kaydop and Violentpanda would probably have also won multiple Majors if they were a thing back then. And after all every players Dream is winning a World Championship so its even more important to be Clutch when it matters most. I so think Justin is a good and well deserved number 1 though.

You can prob do this calculation a few times before the content gets stail, loved it

The only thing keeping Zen from #1 is his longevity of 0.4…😢

@Angremaan

Ай бұрын

yeah i think thats bs, cuz longevity shouldnt make such a difference on your score.. He deserves atleast 2nd place

@FredrickTheKorok7

Ай бұрын

@@Angremaan I agree completely

@zap9044

Ай бұрын

​@@Angremaan I think longevity is important since Rocket League is a volatile game. Any player can theoretically win on their day, so being at the top for a long time shows insane consistency. If longevity wasn't considered, someone like Lachinio who won a major but only dominated for a really short time, would have a higher goat score than someone like Jknaps who has never won a major but has been consistent for years. In reality, most people probably have Lachinio way lower than Jknaps (Maybe not even on the list).

@PodcArne

Ай бұрын

@@zap9044hey, lachinio won worlds and jknaps HAS won a major

@PodcArne

Ай бұрын

Also zen got buffed on other categories because of his short career so it makes up for it

I’m really surprised how much I agree with the results, love the vid

The work behind this video is truly outstanding! Tho I have to disagree on the impact category as Kaydop is THE reason we have Europe and more particularly France so represented today in RLCS. Monkey Moon is at this level today because he was streamsnipping him for a long time and we can even consider that all French players today are here thanks to what he brought to the scene. So in my opinion, he is and will always stay the GOAT for at least all the French community

U gotta include Torsos man. He has been around for so long and is tied with JKnaps for most LAN appearances. Great video nonetheless

Love the vid, keep the vids coming👌

This was too much work for such a low reward. I really hope this video blows up soon

Great work! Loved it! :D

That video is a pure masterclass.

insane vid, thanks for the work

Great video man keep it up

bro i love this video!!! please do more rocket league content!!!

Jstn has ALWAYS been my favourite. I went into this video thinking "I say Jstn would get high, maybe like top 10 atleast." But i wasn't expecting as the goat!

I still remember seeing monkey moon always number 1 on PlayStation leaderboards years ago. Been a fan ever since

Squishy got me in the mindset to play the game the way i do today. Hes my personal favorite for a lot of reasons. Rizzo was my first rocket league player i really followed just for the content and pure enjoyment. That being said i cant disagree.

Sick video, although there are many things i dont agree with or dont like the list of players itself, I like this I think you should also consider the amount of games played which would obv give them a stat boost

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I should've had that instead of just career length in days

Ngl Kaydop should be first in my book, his impact stat is way too low for how much he contributed to the scene, people don't realise that we wouldn't have most of the french prodigies if it weren't for him

Amazing video! Great job trying to not be too subjective.

The work you put into this video is inspiring my friend, Great piece of work here congrats 🎉 Also FK is my guy and thinks he should be higher 🙃

Fun video. Obviously some of it is subjective but at least you'll get 90% of the big names up there somewhere.

I believe a longer term project where you factor all international LAN events is worth the ambition. Some of these players dominated outside of RLCS at events like DreamHack, ELEAGUE, NARLI, GAMERS8, and all others. This would immediately effect Chausette45, ViolentPanda and Turbo, MuffinMen, Jknaps, shoot even Retals would be on this list.

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that’s what I’m gonna try to do next time. I couldn’t do that this time because I also have classes going on, so it’s a bit more difficult to do

i’ve been saying jstn has been the best of all time for so long but people just don’t rate him that highly because of the long break he took from the game, i definitely think there is a lot missing from the calculations since you’d almost need to account for singular games and scores to rate a player but this guy would need a supercomputer to properly figure it all out, man already put a lot of effort to make this great video though this was entertaining to watch

Good video, keep it up sunless

Amazing vid! Keep it up!(WHY IS TURBO 20TH????)

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

No clue

Not having joyos shot against falcons in the most memorable moments is kind of crazy ngl

People don’t understand how good first killer is. It’s crazy how underrated he is while outperforming everyone in na

Impact btw, Chausette was the first player to use Fennec in RLCS, now it's the MOST popular car

My personal Goat is turbo, he beat everyone else that people consider high on the GOAT lists. Kaydop twice, Jstn once and when NRG won their worlds Turbo was there. I think this list is pretty accurate other than a few players who imo play beyond the stats. Like Turbo, some Kaydop. Can't wait for the list before worlds! great video!

@Jsbtn_

Ай бұрын

true. I still think Jstn is the GOAT js by looking at his rlrs status to begin with he carried that team to qualify to rlcs and when he left that team went 0-7😂 Then when he joined NRG he brought them to a worlds final. While having fire in his team not tryna disrespect. Also beat the dynasty as a rookie

@brizzain7618

Ай бұрын

@Jsbtn_ what dynasty did he beat as a rookie?

@Pro_GameMaster888

20 күн бұрын

​@brizzain7618 well before the s5 "grand finals", they faced off dig (dynasty trio) in the upper bracket and managed to beat them. I think that's what he's saying.

Great video, this just boosts my NA ego more

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Average NA fan experience: *sees top 10 list *sees an NA player at #1 *pops off and brags about it *ignores slots 2-5 which were all French Believe me, I know, I went through it when I first saw the final tallies lol

Very good video,i didn't follow you but this video convinced me, alot of work 👍by the way who do you think is the best nation of rl?

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the support! And at this point, if you think that any *nation* is better at RL than France, then you just don't know ball lol.

@KhanTheFreestyler

Ай бұрын

@@_CRUMP_true, France is the best right now, all time, they are probably 2nd rn in 1s(behind Saudi Arabia), 1st all time in 1s, and even in freestyling they are prolly the best all-time(arguable rn with Germany, England etc.)

@AmbushRL.

Ай бұрын

France

@f-mex5806

Ай бұрын

​​@@KhanTheFreestylerI guess evenin 1s , Francehas Mawkzy, best 1s player in the world

@KhanTheFreestyler

Ай бұрын

@@f-mex5806 Saudi has too many good players RIGHT NOW, France only has 2 that standout and even then they aren’t as good(well no undisputed no.1 like they used to be) and Saudi has like 4 players who have been EASILY top 10 in the world in the past year, maybe 5 but NWPO is arguable

Great video but the 1v1 part oKhalid should be number 1 or tide with Fairy, he was the best player for like 3 years and even nowadays he still considered a top 15 player, his longevity it’s Impressive. 🐐

Amazing, although id definitely put Turbo into no1 objectively for winning 4 Lan events, Vatira id say is chasing close behind now, Jstn for sure is Top 3 though but for me not no1 but much love

This must had took you hours , I respect the placements of players . I somewhat agree with them . If Zen had played longer , he would had made top 3 in my opinion . I don't blame you for putting him at 4th .

Of your 5 categories the most important is team dominance and individual dominance imo, so maybe next time weigh them 20% higher then the other categories

The list is good- but thinking back at the F3 series vs Selfless, it is criminal for Kux not to be in the top 10 clutch players imo

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

Fair. I only started watching the RLCS in season 8, so I don’t know too much about the older players.

@lofote0384

Ай бұрын

@@_CRUMP_ as a RL fan, you should check the series out! It was nothing short of insane!

One thing, I think we should be aware of, and which your list also seems to account somewhat for is the value of lan wins. In the open era, lan wins are MUCH harder to achieve imo - because of how many matches one has to play before even reaching them in the first place. So when people rank Turbo or Violentpanda high, they fail to realize how few games they realistically had to play and win to get to the lan and to win the lan itself. I would rank legacy RLCS lans like maybe at most 1,5 majors now, but realistically at like 1 major now, maybe even less, despite the outrage it gathers. Maybe one could take the amount of games played to reach a legacy lan and to win it, then compare it to a current open era major with regionals/qualifying matches, and then 'power rank' the wins accordingly? I know the 'title' of world champion means something, but I'd argue the consistency needed back then was still way less than now, and that's why it's fitting to have people like MM, Vatira and Zen much higher on these lists in general

bros a gd ytber but he did a rl vid, i respect it, both games are lit

Great video, underrated tbf

Even though I love the work done here, I would never use "stats" or "moments" to rank who's the best player. It takes more subjective opinion than objective (without being biased) in order to achieve the goal to know who's the GOAT. So I right after saying this I would like to share my categories to be ranked: 1. Gamesense (more important than mechanics in my opinion). 2. Mechanics 3. Impact (on a team, given their role on that team) 4. Mentallity (strong, positive, nontoxic...) 5. Longevity And something really important is to understand when did each one of the players competed. Kronovi was the goat at the start, obviously all the games improve mechanically so nowadays players will be better there. But those that are able to keep being at a high level throughout the years with all the meta and mechanic improvements, those to me sre the real goats.

i feel like zen kinda took a step back this split like he got outperformed by yan in the swiss stage and by daniel in the semis i’m not gonna argue with his dominance in he spring split but you really have to question his dominance after this split it just seems like everybody caught up i also feel like you should have rated kronovi higher just on what he did for the game

This is too good to only have 1k views

The GOAT is called Turbopolsa! - The only 4 Time World Champion - The only one winning the World Championship back to back to back (Season 3, 4, 5) - The only one winning a World Championship with 2 Regions (EU: Northern Gaming, Gale Force Esports, Dignitas NA: NRG) - The only one winning a World Championship as a substitute (Season 3)

Great video but the 1v1 part kinda got me cos relative to the competition it should be a combination of fairy scrub khalid joreuz and jack yet jack nor joreuz was there

Suggestion regarding your formula at 3:56: I wouldn't base the percentiles on the players' rank on your list but rather on the actual stat: Percentile = player's stat / highest stat in category This formula is easier and would also make your ranking more realistic. btw it'd help a little bit at fixing the "Turbopolsa-Issue" too as he'd still get 1% for his four wins at LAN-events while all the ones with only two wins would only get 0.5% instead of 0.921% for example. Maybe there is a reason why you didn't do it this way that I haven't thought of though..

@_CRUMP_

Ай бұрын

That is a really good idea. The only problem is that at the time that I was working on this, I had ABSOLUTELY NO GODDAMN CLUE how to use Excel or Google Sheets, so doing it that way would take too much time for me to manually input it into my calculator and then manually type it out.

Great editing

I've been watching for 10 minutes. It was such an amazing video, but before u say it, I've gotta say squishymuffinz man. ❤😊

If I may make a suggestion, what if “longevity” was a subsection of “impact”?

Turbo, no questions, no contest. haven’t even seen 2 seconds of the video.

You said you're planning to do this again -- getting some sort of web scraper set up to avoid having to manually enter all the data will massively speed up the process, Idk if it's really feasable but I'd even offer to write it for you, its probably only a day or two of unfocused work, and then (as long as the data source doesn't significantly change) you'd be able to reuse it whenever you want to make an updated video.

Watching this I though you had probably like 500K to 1M HOW DO YOU HAVE UNDER 2.5K!!!

I had no idea a youtuber with 2K subs would drop such a banger

@dylb0t

Ай бұрын

“Greatness can be found, even under a rock” -SpongeBob Narrator

jxmyhighrolller inspired vid got my sub fosho