Spider-Man 4: Tom Holland Helping Develop The Story For The First Time

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The TJCS crew discuss Tom Holland’s recent comments about Spider-Man and plans for the fourth movie.
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  • @nrp5791
    @nrp579121 күн бұрын

    Kingpin with Daredevil for Spiderman 4 makes the most sense to me.

  • @Wilt11-14
    @Wilt11-1420 күн бұрын

    The best news is, since Tom is involved in the story process, we will know more plot details REALLY SOON!

  • @deoro9259

    @deoro9259

    18 күн бұрын

    Cus he spoils everything 😂

  • @lukeydukey20
    @lukeydukey2021 күн бұрын

    I would love to have the Russo Brothers back! They’ve directed my favorite MCU films. Would also love to see Spider-man 4 involve Peter teaming up with Daredevil and fighting Fisk.

  • @KingArthur973
    @KingArthur97321 күн бұрын

    I think john francis daley and jonathan goldstein (the duo that made Game Night & Dungeons and Dragons) should helm this movie

  • @goldenlightpictures6223
    @goldenlightpictures622320 күн бұрын

    To be honest I like the idea of Holland being more involved! He’s passionate about Spider-Man since he is Spider-Man. Heck if you watch the no way home Blu-ray features he’s right beside Jon watts and one of the interviewees even claimed that he could direct one day.

  • @isaacblake5114
    @isaacblake511420 күн бұрын

    I think after 8 years of Tom playing character he’s earned the right to have creative control in direction Spider-Man goes next especially since his predecessors did not make this far because the plug got pulled on the both of them toby and Andrew . well because of creative control extra the this is ironic as well though because Tom Holland is the fist spider-man actor to actually have creative control in the story of spider-man gose

  • @sunnytimes_
    @sunnytimes_21 күн бұрын

    Nothing surprising here. Every actor these days who has a successful franchise is suddenly producing and involved in creating the next one. Make money and you can become a professional at almost anything😊😊

  • @JozzFilms
    @JozzFilms21 күн бұрын

    Chameleon would make a great villain for the identity metaphor tbh

  • @stephanieesparza5019
    @stephanieesparza501921 күн бұрын

    That is 100% good news. And I think it's going to be a huge success😄

  • @Corey313
    @Corey31320 күн бұрын

    I think it's a good thing that Tom Holland is more involved with the project because we know he has some ideas or some good or great insight on what he wants this movie to be about and we don't know what Ned and MJ roles will be in the movie especially since they don't remember Peter. I mean something could happen where it makes them have a flashback and start to remember and since no one else remembers who Peter Parker/Spiderman is they'll be okay or will they?? But miles might be the way to go. We'll just have to wait and see

  • @allen9717
    @allen971721 күн бұрын

    My issue with the process of this film is the story what the hell are they going to do other than the fact that Peter’s friends don’t know who Peter is anymore so how are they gonna handle that whole thing but other than that who tf is going to be the villain and when will this take place cause this is going to be one of the most difficult stories to write tbh also not to mention the Venom symbiote that was left behind in Peter’s world also

  • @SyncedUp_
    @SyncedUp_19 күн бұрын

    The guy in the white shirt is Donald Mustard, the guy that made Fortnite what it was. He made it a Battle Royale, he’s the guy that got all the deals done like bringing Thanos to the game back in the day, he talked to Keanu about getting John Wick in the game, he made and was crafting the ongoing story season to season in Fortnite. He left Epic Games a while back and joined the Russos’ company to help them develop new ways of story telling.

  • @sayheyguy
    @sayheyguy21 күн бұрын

    My story idea is that he's going to fight the Venom symbiote that was left behind in the last film, that while he's under its influence he uses it to restore MJ's and Ned's memories of him.

  • @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
    @BobbyMoore2-mp8wb21 күн бұрын

    Sony Pictures Entertainment still owns Spider-Man

  • @johansvensson833

    @johansvensson833

    20 күн бұрын

    they are never giving that up

  • @Andy-li2px
    @Andy-li2px21 күн бұрын

    Miles bring Miles

  • @josermaiz
    @josermaiz21 күн бұрын

    This good cause they making street level which in going to add kingpin has the main villain

  • @tomfairbairn1202
    @tomfairbairn120220 күн бұрын

    I think Daredevil is the future for Spiderman, a more mature approach to his character, maybe introduce venom etc

  • @pello2182
    @pello218220 күн бұрын

    is that donald mustard with them too 😭

  • @KingDavid00
    @KingDavid0020 күн бұрын

    Id love Peter to be more street level this next time ill miss MJ and Ned but id like to see Peter navigate his new life losing May his friends and even his super team it'd be cool to see him being solo with a more grounded story maybe he could be working for the Bugle this time

  • @cede.p.1267
    @cede.p.126720 күн бұрын

    I hope he gets writers credit

  • @oldfaithful4112
    @oldfaithful411220 күн бұрын

    Hobgoblin, allister smyth , tombstone.

  • @benm5970
    @benm597021 күн бұрын

    I think they might go the route of the symbiote, because as of now that’s the only loose thread in the MCU Spider-Man universe that has yet to be addressed, and also I think that the idea of the world no longer remembering Peter Parker could actually play into the theme of the symbiote, like maybe at the beginning of the movie Peter is really struggling with depression due to his aunt being dead and everyone forgetting who he is, then once he gets the symbiote it starts making him feel better, to the point where he never wants to take it off, and so it’s literally like a drug for him, the thing he’s addicted to to numb the pain of everything he’s going through, I think you could actually make a very deep story out of this given where Peter is at right now

  • @michaelromero7188
    @michaelromero718820 күн бұрын

    Tom would be FOOLISH to walk away from Spiderman...he is a good actor, but he is NOT a box office draw. If he wants RDJ money, he needs to stay as Spidey, because he is the MCU right now.

  • @keylightsystems

    @keylightsystems

    20 күн бұрын

    Tom can go anywhere I believe but I’m glad he wants this.

  • @mangaloveranix8412
    @mangaloveranix841220 күн бұрын

    Peter is no more there to people he knew or around him, so he will reside with being Spider-Man in order to fight for his presence up to his last standing place on the ground. He will fight to the bitter end like Batman, a DC hero that goes by this rule: No killing, no guns. That can create an opening for Batman's enemies toward Batman, so that will be with Spider-Man since he hae realized he has not been his perfect self as a hero, as a web-slinger, as a wall-crawler, to be the better version of himself. To relate this to me, I have been facing significant highs and lows when it comes to people near me or I'm familiar to are more louder and intense than me over the years as if it is an incoherent pattern. I have been told or advised by my sister, who has 3-4 kids with a man in her family, that the world is a large noisy place. I cannot be totally silent as a bystander who thinks a lot and go my day, which is where I can be myself fully: as a cool person. I have to speak up, I have to stand up, I have to acknowledge that person whether if I can depend him or her to let me listen as he or she speaks to me, making sure I can trust her or him not to put myself to ruin. My rule is this: No nagging, no trouble-ever since high school because I don't need to lose myself wherever I am heading to in a conversation. I might be softhearted, but I do have the feeling of taking risks seriously. As long as I am myself for understamding such ideas and concepts by keeping my mouth shut and focusing on who's talking to me for important facts as a man, I will be better off at my words and actions. I don't want to see weakness from people I'm familiar with. It drives me nuts inside my mind as I keep my mouth shut, making me clashing over ideas or ideologies. I think a lot and that's what happens to me at that moment. I dislike mental insanity from someone I am listening to, but if that is the case, I will do something else before I can move aside. The only thing I can do is to tire me out for someone who cannot understand the idea of what I am sayimg or doing to him or her now I am self-aware. If I decide to tire myself out, I am at a loss. I don't know what to say or do to that guy or girl. I am out of words, out of such ideas, out of context. I cannot take it. I will let him or her decide or do his or her thing. This way, I can give that person an opening to my weak point: my constant outer irritation from childhood. That's an liability for me to cool off my rage or else I may regret it for dear life. Generally, Pete must be the best version of himself as the MCU Spider-Man. He cannot have just empathy for those who are against him open-handed. He won't be a wimp. There's a case of themes and character growth through relations and interactions from stories to audiences, humbly for those stories to grow with the audiences they are targetting to by the authors or creatives. By the way, MCU Spidey must grow up for Avengers Secret Wars so Sony can make their minds about the SSU. Since Sony wants to keep Spidey as a money-tree brand through contracts between themselves and Marvel or Marvel Studios every 3 to 5 years, they must need to convince to Marvel internally so they can use Spidey as character. It seems Sony wants money from live action movies without Spiderman's existence, which doesn't make sense for an universe fit for characters with Spidey's ilk. There may be cameos pointing to him, but with Spidey in the MCU, nothing comes to fruition out of them. This contributes to none of the TV SSU projects set for release on Amazon like Silk Spider Society given to the current status of the SSU with Madame Web being another poor and dull movie in the SSU catalogue towards Spiderman No Way Home, which is one of the #1 movies or titles for the MCU I personally enjoy watching with the major Spidey fans. Speaking of Sony or someone out from there blaming the Spiderman fans, Sony must grow up or get lost. They may either make movies told by Disney Marvel to have Spiderman in them or just lose creative control over what they set themselves to do until the rights dry up in a surefire case Marvel will sweep up Spiderman from Sony's grasp. That is the well where money goes in the drain, never to get seen again. Sony loves making money from Spiderman, but wait until they hit rock bottom with their faces flat. There's a case with success and failure. Although Sony has been rumored to release BTSV once they will get their plans straight with Venom 3, Kraven, other SSU movies, and the Venom movie reboot, I have doubts that the SSU or Earth-688 or wherever will cease to exist once Deadpool and Wolverine will be released. Marvel is acing up their game, so Sony must do the same. With that toe-to-toe, Sony Pics better not screw up.

  • @IamLegendaryguy1998
    @IamLegendaryguy199821 күн бұрын

    Mcu greatness

  • @HARLEMHEFNER
    @HARLEMHEFNER21 күн бұрын

    I've always said the Russo Brothers. Need to do Spider-Man they know how to direct him I didn't care the Tom Holland Spider-Man films. But he always shined as Spider-Man with the Russo Brothers behind the camera.

  • @Arceedits

    @Arceedits

    20 күн бұрын

    they made him kinda weak in infinity war & endgame. Spider-Man is meant to be way stronger than cap and black panther, he can lift thousands of tons, he has done many times in the comics & fought and won against very powerful foes yet in endgame he sucked lol and infinity war he somehow lost to star lord 💀. Civil war was abit better as his personality was not only the best but he also he destroyed winter soldier and falcon. Although he lost to cap which you could say was lack of experience as he is clearly stronger but is very young and only been Spider-Man a few months non the less Russo brothers I don’t think would be the right call

  • @lincoln2324
    @lincoln232420 күн бұрын

    I believe the right direction for this movie is that spiderman is finally a street level hero. Make peter parker/spidey a character that can carry the whole movie just like they did with Tobey and Andrew. No more alliances with other heroes because frankly with that you're telling the audience that Tom's version isn't strong enough, which means that marvel doesn't believe in this character. Peter is an adult now, a college guy. There's no need to keep showing him making some messes around and be like "oops, my bad" like they did in the previous movies. Make Peter a character that doesn't make the same mistakes AGAIN, show that he has learned to be an adult

  • @erikhopkins9548

    @erikhopkins9548

    20 күн бұрын

    So make him the friendly neighborhood spider man yes.

  • @t.j.1584

    @t.j.1584

    20 күн бұрын

    The “no more alliances with other heroes” part is just never gonna happen unfortunately. The deal Sony made with Marvel is that they’ll allow their Spider-man movies to be apart of the MCU if Marvel gives them one of their characters to use and in return they’ll allow Marvel to use Spider-man in any of their crossover movies like Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame. It’s not that Marvel doesn’t believe in his character, it’s just a deal Sony and Marvel made to have him in the MCU. Kinda like a “you scratch my back I scratch yours” kind of deal. But I don’t understand how you see that as telling the audience he isn’t strong enough. He’s never needed other heroes to help him deal with any of his villains and handled all of them on his own. Plus, on the bright side this gives them a chance to tell stories we’ve seen Spidey get involved in the comics with other heroes be brought to live action on the big screen. Like Spider-Man 4 could have Daredevil needing Spidey’s help leading to a Spider-man and Daredevil team up against Kingpin (which I’ve always wanted to see) or Spider-man 5 will have the Fantastic Four figure out the symbiote is an alien like in the comics. There’s some good potential behind this. Everything else I agree with tho.

  • @craigd7333
    @craigd733320 күн бұрын

    Is Kris Carr still on the show? Haven’t seen her in a while. Love that lady

  • @johansvensson833

    @johansvensson833

    20 күн бұрын

    to far to drive everyday(2 hours) but they are working on her being on remotley like before

  • @craigd7333

    @craigd7333

    20 күн бұрын

    @@johansvensson833 oh got it, thank you. I think Kris has a recording booth in her home, so hopefully she’ll be back soon.

  • @Jimmie_Rudolfsson
    @Jimmie_Rudolfsson17 күн бұрын

    I would actually LOVE a Spider-Man movie by the Russos.

  • @spaceape9606
    @spaceape960612 күн бұрын

    Maybe when he said those things last year he was negotiating a new deal.

  • @MiniacsTV
    @MiniacsTV20 күн бұрын

    Whatever they do, I'll love it! Because I love Spider-Man! I wish to get the story that I read when I was a teen, but chances of getting that don't look good, Maxiam Carnage. Now that's a billion dollar idea.

  • @timmaytargaryen
    @timmaytargaryen20 күн бұрын

    Black Cat?

  • @johansvensson833

    @johansvensson833

    20 күн бұрын

    rumor is that sony wants a black cat/silver sable movie or tv-show

  • @ralphgillon4646
    @ralphgillon464619 күн бұрын

    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @Humanipathic
    @Humanipathic19 күн бұрын

    Help develop it so he can have his own film, no cameos from any current or future MCH heroes in this or another universe FFS

  • @jacobtakas2846

    @jacobtakas2846

    19 күн бұрын

    Technically the deal between Sony and Marvel is that there has to be an MCU character pop up here in there (Iron Man Homecoming, Happy Hogan& Nick Fury Far From Home, and Dr Strange, sort of Matt Murdock, for No Way Home).

  • @spandexraygun5325
    @spandexraygun532519 күн бұрын

    I think they should move away from MJ and Ned now. Move towards a more traditional Spider-Man on his own becoming a man and introduce the Daily Bugle, J Jonah Jameson and a new female love interest. You cant go back you have to move forwards. Perhaps Peter is having nightmares and visions of his past life and has been trying to forge a new path which brings him into conflict with a villain like Chameleon who is a metaphor for changing appearance and deception. Perhaps Peter is trying to establish new roots and foundations for himself as a photographer and meets Gwen Stacy and befriends Harry Osborn which also sets him on a path of danger. Similiar but different.

  • @spandexraygun5325

    @spandexraygun5325

    19 күн бұрын

    Or you could go left field and have an alternate timeline 60s set Spider-Man with Tom Holland and re-do the origin with him which we haven't seen with classic May and Ben Parker similar to the upcoming Fantastic Four. I feel this Spider-Man trilogy has reached a natural conclusion so why over egg the pudding?

  • @AIVaneer
    @AIVaneer21 күн бұрын

    The Russo Brothers will Direct Secret Wars> secret wars leads to SpiderMan : SpiderGeddon or The SPIDER WARS

  • @allen9717
    @allen971721 күн бұрын

    Also this should be directed to Jon watts again tbh

  • @abraham7018

    @abraham7018

    21 күн бұрын

    I would love for him to return, but he's (thankfully) working on his own projects- I'm excited for "Wolves".

  • @spaceranger9786

    @spaceranger9786

    21 күн бұрын

    Never seen anyone say that they want him back

  • @stevenrivera802

    @stevenrivera802

    21 күн бұрын

    Nah. He's got no sauce

  • @allen9717

    @allen9717

    20 күн бұрын

    @@stevenrivera802 why all of his Spider-Man movies were great

  • @garywalker5000
    @garywalker500018 күн бұрын

    where does spider man go if he has really bad day

  • @StoneCastleSystems
    @StoneCastleSystems20 күн бұрын

    Andrew Garfield has only have had 2 amazing spiderman movies

  • @jace3848
    @jace384819 күн бұрын

    We used to have multiple Spiderman comic book lines. So why Sony and marvel can't figure it out that well done stories could make them buckets of money. I would watch a new Spiderman trilogy of Toby and his daughter spidergirl or Miles Morales or both. Andrew gets an amazing Spider-Man 3 establishing that he is in the venom verse. While giving us a new trilogy of Tom's Spiderman in the MCU.

  • @Durag__bandit98
    @Durag__bandit9820 күн бұрын

    Ig madara uchia don’t exist

  • @nkwhosnk
    @nkwhosnk21 күн бұрын

    Miles Morales would be perfect for spider-man 4 since no one knows who Peter is

  • @teddybear8348

    @teddybear8348

    21 күн бұрын

    How it good?

  • @benm5970

    @benm5970

    21 күн бұрын

    Peter is still too young for Miles to be brought in

  • @austindaniels4827

    @austindaniels4827

    21 күн бұрын

    @@benm5970they can make it work, just introduce him as a side character and don’t give him his powers yet. Peter could live in the same apartment building as Miles’ family

  • @benm5970

    @benm5970

    21 күн бұрын

    @@austindaniels4827 But the issue is that even if he doesn’t become a hero yet once you introduce Miles it makes it clear to us that Peter Parker is no longer a primary focus, it’s the same problem with the X-Men movies when it comes to Jean Grey, in every single one of those movies whenever they’ve introduced her it’s clear that they never wanted her to just be Jean Grey for a while, you can tell that they’re already immediately focused on building towards the Dark Phoenix, that’s what I’m worried about, that once Miles is introduced the majority of the writing will diverge away from Peter and be dedicated to building him up as the next Spider-Man

  • @powerswitch5537

    @powerswitch5537

    21 күн бұрын

    @@benm5970 This, the majority of mcu Peter's story was - older hero shows younger hero the ropes. I love Miles but bringing him in now would feel like a retread of that first story. Peter should get a few more battles under his belt before becoming a mentor.

  • @paulchambers2379
    @paulchambers237920 күн бұрын

    If anything this is probably one of the easiest scripts to write. Ned becomes hobgoblin, Peter struggles with this when he finds out because of the past. Miles morales is then introduced to talk some sense into Peter and they take him down together. Post credit scene would be venom in new York seeing Peter and miles swinging past and the spidey sense is tingling.

  • @MOTIONSOLDIERR

    @MOTIONSOLDIERR

    20 күн бұрын

    Horrible script bro

  • @rebel2191

    @rebel2191

    20 күн бұрын

    Really obvious if they go this route

  • @myth3516

    @myth3516

    19 күн бұрын

    Are you one of the Madame Web writers?

  • @Humanipathic

    @Humanipathic

    19 күн бұрын

    No

  • @Zhaggysfaction
    @Zhaggysfaction18 күн бұрын

    It's never a good thing when an actor has to help with the story or script.

  • @dottir_

    @dottir_

    17 күн бұрын

    no, not necessarily. There are some actors who are involved in the creative process because the are passionate about it, like Ryan Reynolds or Tom Hardy to mention a few. Maybe they just wanna get the next Spider-Man right because of this whole superhero movie crisis.

  • @t.j.1584

    @t.j.1584

    17 күн бұрын

    Not all the time tho. And Tom has shown that he’s capable of making good decisions with the story so far. Originally the ending for NWH was gonna have the world still know that Peter Parker is Spider-man by graduation, and that Peter would just distance himself from Ned and MJ to keep them safe, instead of them and the whole world forgetting due to stranges spell. But it didn’t sit right with Tom, so he went to Jon Watts and told him that it might be better for Ned, MJ and the whole world to forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, Jon liked the idea, took it up to Marvel and because of Tom Holland’s involvement in helping out with the story, NWH ended up getting a way better ending than what we were gonna get. So, I’d say give him a chance.

  • @2424rocket
    @2424rocket20 күн бұрын

    This is not the cure to cancer… It’s just a fucking Spider-Man movie. I know he has a tremendous following and Tom Holland is definitely the best Spider-Man of all… But its still just a cartoon movie. It ain’t “there will be blood”… it ain’t Apocalypse now” it’s just a Spider-Man movie. The best thing Holland ever did was “the devil all the time “he was literally amazing in that movie… He needs to do more of that.

  • @THEMARCKNIGHT89

    @THEMARCKNIGHT89

    20 күн бұрын

    Cartoon movie. Why are you even on here. Clearly not a fan. You sound like my girlfriend all like “stop watching those cartoon movies and come to bed.”

  • @matteoromero5410

    @matteoromero5410

    20 күн бұрын

    Yeah you kinda sound like a hater these are multi million dollar “cartoon stories “made by multi billion dollar corporations….. yes these are important to them and to fans

  • @Alton7771
    @Alton777121 күн бұрын

    I don't want miles Morales in spider man I want this be more about peter and how he is misunderstood and people think is selfish and lazy and how he has bad luck this is big part of spiderman lore and was not show that much in the MCU Spiderman.

  • @iwouldntlikemeeither
    @iwouldntlikemeeither17 күн бұрын

    Scrap this garbage and bring tobey back

  • @noname-ot7vd

    @noname-ot7vd

    9 күн бұрын

    On God. Tobey portrayed Spider-Man the best.

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