The follow-up exists now. Be sure to watch the Timeline Explanation to see how we got to this point, then the Mania/Forces follow-up before trying to correct me. Timeline Explanation - kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5aczNGxqLeagJs.html Mania/Forces Follow-up - kzread.info/dash/bejne/po2Cl9Chj7mZitI.html

@BaltaBueno

6 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@thevurtixarchives3234

6 жыл бұрын

Unleashed was forgot :(

@killernyancat8193

5 жыл бұрын

@@thevurtixarchives3234 Unleashed was in this video

@ufazig

3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Just one small correction. Rouge wasn't working for GUN in SA2. Taking a look at the original japanese dialogues (some of the english dialogue were poor translations), it's clear that we worked for the president, and was sent to recover information about the ultimate life form project (info that GUN most likely had). It's likely that GUN was independent or not directly commanded by the president (prior to Shadow's game in 2005 which somewhat retconed that) If you're interested, Ruby of Blue's video on SA2 covers confusing points in the story, which were mostly due to mistranslation and misinterpretations.

@lorenzorafael4600

Жыл бұрын

You Included Sonic 06,And Sonic 4,2 Trash Games,But You Didn’t Include Both Masterpieces Of 2017-Wait…4 Years Ago Is 2018. It Is Wrong,The Vídeo Was Posted Before Both Released,Right? 2017,Same Year,Not The Same Day. I Get It Now.

is it me or did this guy made sonic 06's story and time paradox make a little more sense

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

It's just you, I assure you. ;)

@dreamcastdazia4753

7 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake Give your self more credit man. You made it make perfect sense. You have a talent

@KorgCrimson

6 жыл бұрын

ReeledFiber115 Gaming he actually managed to do it. He actually managed to make a lot of what we thought to be plot holes make sense. Color me beyond impressed!

@AltPlay

6 жыл бұрын

It's because the time travel aspect wasn't done correctly. Following what the game gives you doesn't make sense. A few of the traveling aspects, such as Sonic losing the fight against Silver then Shadow traveling through time to interrupt the fight before Sonic loses, clean it up while still being correct. Very well done.

@Ryker_Armada

5 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOODNESS STOP TALKING ABOUT THE GOD DAMN FUCKING SONIC CD MANIA AND FORCES TIMEWRECK I HATE THAT CAUSE WHO KNOWS IF 06 TAKES PLACE YEARS AFTER FORCES AND MANIA OR THAT CD IS THE LAST GAME IN THE TIMELINE

This is why you never introduce time travel into your timeline unless you have a very clear idea of where it will go

@noblesseoblige319

4 жыл бұрын

Or when* Sorry, I couldn't resist

There's only one quote that can describe all of this.. "Woah my head is spinning"-Tails

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the series is kind of a mess.

@eulermachado3968

6 жыл бұрын

WOW YOU'RE GONNA CRASH AAH!!!

@slump1855

6 жыл бұрын

are u proud of yourself

@neroultimate1

6 жыл бұрын

Josh Fri is that a jojo reference... on a sonic video? 😂

@dwade3mvp3

6 жыл бұрын

Daryl Caruthers no it's a famous Knuckles meme/voice line in one of the Sonic Adventure games(?)

Sir, where does the Sonic The Hedgehog ice cream bar with gumball eyes fit in?

@Smashlander

6 жыл бұрын

That was my favorite spinoff game!

@gogeta_ssj4_supersaiyan4_y16

6 жыл бұрын

GamingBoyTac my favorite Sonic Mania DLC!

@flophawk

6 жыл бұрын

You scream I scream We all scream for *AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH*

@Seras99

6 жыл бұрын

In the food timeline.

@igotcrabsyeup

6 жыл бұрын

GamingBoyTac It's the beginning Of The universe.

Don't forget those five times he and Mario went to the Olympics

@likedmyowncomment3547

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think those are canon.

@IronMadden

6 жыл бұрын

And the time where the Sonic world suddenly turns into LEGO bricks when Eggman discovers a device to take over other LEGO dimensions, and our Blue Hero thwarts his evil plans while also encountering Batman, Gandalf, and Wyldstyle.

@bruh-yl4sn

6 жыл бұрын

IronMadden Those games are not canon. They are located in another dimension.

@IronMadden

6 жыл бұрын

That's the joke.

@2000sKingdomHeartzFudanshi

4 жыл бұрын

LikedMyOwnComment r/wooosh

Outside Observer: “Sonic can’t be that complicated, right? The4thSnake: “…215 AS”

I intend to make a follow-up once Sonic Forces is out and I've finished it. I have no idea where it or Forces take place. Pocket Aadventure will be included as well. Stop asking about them.

@TheSonicman07

6 жыл бұрын

Okay, if you want ill explain this with Mania Spoilers, but Forces takes place in two areas, after mania and before chronicles. this changes the timeline, making it go Sonic The Hedgehog (1991) SEGA Sonic The Hedgehog (1993) Tails Sky Patrol (1995) Sonic Labyrinth (1995) Sonic The Hedgehog CD (1993) Tails Adventure (1995) Sonic Chaos (1993) Sonic The Hedgehog Spinball (1993) Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (1992) Sonic Generations (Classic) (2011) Sonic The Hedgehog 3&K (1994) Sonic Mania (2017) Sonic Forces (Classic) (2017) Sonic Triple Trouble Knuckles Chaotix (1995) Sonic The Fighters (1996) Sonic 3D Blast (1996) Sonic Blast (1996) Sonic R (1997) Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 (2010) Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode Metal (2012) Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 (2012) Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 3 (If It Comes Out) Sonic Adventure (1999) Sonic Shuffle (2000) Sonic Adventure 2 (2001) Sonic Advanced (2001) Sonic Advanced 2 (2002) Sonic Pinball Party (2003) Sonic Heroes (2003) Shadow The Hedgehog (2005) Sonic Battle (2003) Sonic Rush (2005) Sonic Advanced 3 (2004) Sonic Jump (2012) Sonic Riders (2006) Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) Sonic Rush Adventure (2007) Sonic Rivals (2006) Sonic And The Secret Rings (2006) Sonic Rivals 2 (2007) Sonic Riders Zero Gravity (2008) Sonic Unleashed (2008) Sonic And The Black Knight (2009) Sonic Free Riders (2010) Sonic Colors (2010) Sonic Generations (Modern) (2011) Sonic Jump (2012) Sonic Runners (2015) Sonic Lost World (2013) Sonic Runners Adventure (2017) (THIS PART YOU CAN ARANGE FORCES BEFORE OR AFTER) Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (2008) Sonci Chronicles 2 (If It Comes Out) Sonic Forces (Modern) (2017) I personally dont know anything about Pocket Adventure, so your on your own for that.

@jamesjerk5538

6 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake ok, I just wanted to tell you something important. On the phantom ruby, so you can just read the manual for this But it does not mess with time, it actually messes with reality and dimensions. so you don't have to add a timeline mess to it.

@heftyrumble

6 жыл бұрын

I actually did the sonic timeline with the stuff you didn't include and mania and forces, here it is TImeline #1 4539997969 B.S 1.The big bang creates mobius 2.2 beings are born, Light and dark gaia 3.Dark gaia breaks the planet apart 4.The chaos emeralds, the master emerald and the shaos temples are made 5.light gaia fixes the planet 5999991 B.S 6.the first humans have been formed by adaptation 4200 B.S 7.The echidna and Nocturnus clan are formed from life 4190 B.S 8.The chao are formed from the chaos emeralds and the master emerald on an island far away 4150 B.S 9.The echidna clan start their civilization near the shrine 4000 B.S 10.Exposure to the master emerald transforms a chao into the water creature chaos 11.the chao live in harmony until the knuckles clan invade their lands to use the master emerald against their opponents 12.enraged chaos uses the power of the emeralds to do an act of genocide to the knuckles clan 13.The leader's daughter Tikal seals herself and chaos into the master emerald to prevent the destuction from spreading farther 14.an energy surge lifts the island up into the sky above becoming known as Angel Island 15.with their enemy destroyed the nocturnus clan create a gizoid that can absorb chaos emeralds 16.the gizoids attract the attention of Argus who seals the nocturnus clan into the twilight cage leaving the gizoid as the only proof of the nocturnus clan 2000 B.S 17.The babylonians are forced to land their spaceship stranding them on earth 18.the ship sinks into the depths of earth leaving very few survivors 19.the inhabatants of west side island discover 1 of the 7 emeralds and use it to advance their civilization 20.in time corrupted by the power of the emeralds the inhabants lose their prosperity believing it to be punishment from the gods 50+ B.S 21.Gerald Robotnik is born 22.Gerald studies the echidna and the fighting creature ifrits 23.Gerald constructs the space colony ark Circa 50 B.S 24.Gerald has 2 grandchildren, Maria and Robotnik Circa 36 B.S 25.Maria becomes mentally ill and gerald works tidelessly to come up with a cure 26.Gerald contacts the black arms to assist him in creating the ultimate form shadow the hedgehog in return of the 7 chaos emeralds 27.he creates the eclipse cannon to destroy the black arms upon their return 28.Gerald finds the final gizoid and programs it with free will 29.he attempts to use the gizoid as a bargaining chip to continue his funding 30.the gizoid goes on a rampage aboard the ark and is eventually shut down 31.realizing the power of the proffesor's experiments the gaurding units of nation to take gerald and his experiments to custody 32.Maria is shot and killed and shadow the captured and frozen in a g.u.n facility 33.Gerald makes plans for revenge 34.he loses his mind to greif shortly before his execution 5 B.S 35.Vector the crocodile is born 3 B.S 36.Rouge the bat and Big the cat are born 2 B.S 37.Princess elise III of soleanna is born 1 B.S 38.Knuckles the echidna and Espio are born 0 A.S 39.Sonic the hedgehog is born 1 A.S 40.Blaze the cat in another dimension is born 3 A.S 41.Amy Rose is born 5 A.S 42.the solaris project goe awry and Solaris is split into mephilis and Iblis 43.The father of elise seals mephilis and iblis respectively shortly before he dies 7 A.S 44.Miles tails prower is born 9 A.S 45.Cream and Charmy are born 11 A.S 46.Sonic 1 47.Segasonic 48.Tails skypatrol 49.Sonic labrinth 50.Robotnik metalizes little planet 51.sonic uses the time stones to alter the present Timeline #2 11 A.S 52.Sonic CD 53.Tails adventure 12 A.S 54.Tails and Sonic meet in the mystic ruins jungle and become best friends 55.Sonic Chaos 56.Sonic Spinball 57.Sonic 2 58.Sonic 3 and knuckles 59.Sonic Triple trouble 60.Knuckles Chaotix 61.Sonic the fighters 13 A.S 62.Sonic Blast 63.Sonic 3D blast 64.Sonic R 65.Sonic Mania 66.Sonic pocket adventure 67.Sonic 4 68.Sonic adventure 69.Sonic Shuffle 14 A.S 70.Sonic adventure 2 71.Shadow is found by one of eggman's robots and is taken to a facility for treatment 72.Sonic Advance 73.Sonic Advance 2 74.Sonic Jump 2 75.Sonic Pinball tournament 76.Sonic Heroes 77.Shadow the Hedgehog 78.Sonic Battle 79.Sonic Advance 3 80.Sonic Jump 81.Sonic Riders 82.Eggman loses weight 15 A.S 83.Sonic travels to soleanna for the festival of the sun where eggman kidnaps elise 84.Shadow arrives in soleanna to help rouge retrieve the cepter of darkness 85.Mephilis is released from the cepter and sets of for his quests to form with Iblis 86.Sonic and friends are sent 200 years into the future before the egg carrier malfunctions and crashes killing elise and releasing Iblis 87.Missing his chance to be one with iblis Mephilis travels 200 years in the future to learn about his other half's release 88.shadow is blamed by the incident and sealed in an unescapable cage created by a reprogramed Omega Circa 200 A.S 89.Eggman's descendant Eggman Nega is born Circa 201 A.S 90.Silver the hedgehog is born Circa 215 A.S 91.Eggman Nega travels back in time to obtain the sol emeralds from the sol dimension Timeline #3 14 A.S 92.with Nega's plot foiled by blaze he forms an alliance with his ancestor 93.Sonic Rush 94.Blaze goes back to the sol dimension while Nega goes into hiding 95.Sonic Advance 3 96.Sonic Jump 97.Sonic Riders 98.Sonic travels to soleanna for the festival of the sun where eggman kidnaps elise 99.Shadow arrives in soleanna to help rouge retrieve the cepter of darkness 100.Mephilis is released from the cepter and sets of for his quests to form with Iblis 101.Sonic and friends are sent 200 years into the future before the egg carrier malfunctions and crashes killing elise and releasing Iblis 102.Missing his chance to be one with iblis Mephilis travels 200 years in the future to learn about his other half's release 103.shadow is blamed by the incident and sealed in an unescapable cage created by a reprogramed Omega Circa 200 A.S 104.Eggman's descendant Eggman Nega is born Circa 201 A.S 105.Silver the hedgehog is born Circa 215 A.S 106.Blaze returns to sonic's world in silver's post opacalyptic time to help him in his quest with Iblis 107.Mephilis finds information about the soleanna incident and tricks silver to go back in time to stop the so called Iblis trigger Timeline #4 15 A.S 108.The 2 arrive to the festival of the sun 109.With sonic trapped in the future Silver mistakes Shadow for sonic 110.During their battle a rift in time was created using chaos control which the 2 travel through Timeline #5 5 A.S 111.Silver and Shadow aid the duke in sealing mephilis and Iblis 112.Mephilis starts his grudge against shadow 15 A.S 113.Upon his arrival from the scepter Mephilis sends Shadow and Rouge into the future 215 A.S 114.Shadow and Rouge encounter sonic's group and open a new rift via chaos control 115.Shadow stays and fights mephilis while the other 4 go through the rift Timeline #6 15 A.S 116.Upon their return Sonic saves Elise from eggman and is killed from silver before shadow can make it back makin gelise cry and releasing Iblis 117.Rouge gives Omega a mission to wait 200 years to save shadow from Mephilis 215 A.S 118.Omega awakens from standby mode and assists shadow in driving off mephilis 119.The 2 travel through Mephilis' portal to the present Timeline #7 15 A.S 120.Shadow intervenes on sonic and silver's battle and saves sonic's life allowing him to escape 121.Shadow,Rouge and Omega go to dusty desert to stop mephilis 122.upon coming back to the present Silver aids Sonic on his mission to save elise 123.After the Carrier crashes sonic travels back one day to save elise 124.Silver and Blaze travel 200 years into the future to seal future Iblis 215 A.S 125.Iblis is successfully sealed in blaze which in turn kills her Timeline #8 15 A.S 126.Sonic successfully saves elise and she grows a romantic feeling to sonic 127.Mephilis impales sonic killing him 128.Elise's tears release Iblis finally merging with Mephilis 129.sonic's friends revive him with the emeralds and him, Shadow and Silver take out Solaris 130.Sonic and elise travel back in time 1 more time Timeline #9 5 A.S 131.Elise blows out the fire that becomes solaris 132.the Solaris project ends as a failure 15 A.S 133.The festival of the sun goes on without any problems 134.Sonic Rush adventure 135.Sonic Rivals 136.Sonic and the Secret Rings 215 A.S 137.Eggaman Nega escapes captivity and learns of the ifrit's existence

@heftyrumble

6 жыл бұрын

I couldn't put in everything so here is part 2 138.He travels back in time to release the creature Timeline #10 15 A.S 139.nega enters the ifrit's dimension and releases it on earth causing global domination 215 A.S 140.Silver realises Nega's role in releasing Ifrits and travels back to time to stop him Timeline # 11 15 A.S 141.Sonic rivals 2 142.Sonic Riders zero gravity 143.Sonic and the black knight 144.Mario and Sonic at the olympic games 145.Sonic Unleashed 146.Mario and Sonic at the winter olympic games 147.Sonic Free Riders 148.Sonic and sega all-stars racing 149.Sonic Colors Timeline # 12 13 A.S 150.Sonic and tails are taken from the time eater putting them in white space 16 A.S 151.Sonic generations 152.Mario and Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic games 153.Sonic Lost world 154.Sonic and sega all-stars racing transformed 155.Sonic Jump fever 156.Mario and Sonic at the sochi 2014 winter olympic games 157.Sonic Dash 158.Mario and Sonic at the rio 2016 olympic games 159.Sonic Chronicles the dark brotherhood 160.Sonic Forces

@SlashCraftJack

6 жыл бұрын

Sonic Mania is in a different dimension (after Sonic & Knuckles) and Sonic Forces is after Sonic Chronicles... I think.

Geez if sonic 06 wasn't in this we would have like only 2 TIMELINES NES Edit:wow thanks for the likes

@XrosProductionsKc

7 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ppvsonicspy

6 жыл бұрын

Kay does gaming Well to be fair Sonic 06's events were completely erased so yeah.

@sebastianszeliga8947

6 жыл бұрын

+ppvsonicspy Sonic still remembers them which means it's still in the timeline

@InTheGarden12.24

6 жыл бұрын

ppvsonicspy there just at a different timeline were sonic didn't do that

@pringlesman222

6 жыл бұрын

well timetravel is confusing so thats why

Damn sonic created more timeline than dbz and the flash combined

@M4rtyMcFly21

6 жыл бұрын

Delevbrae Fletcher Sonic is the big bad of Season 4 The Flash *CONFIRMED*

@derennogay4305

6 жыл бұрын

And more than Zelda

@Chapmike

6 жыл бұрын

I think Terminator still wins if you count the comics, novels, games, and series.

@ethanamorales640

3 жыл бұрын

MCU Phase 5: *"Are you challenging me?"*

The hell did they smoke when they created sonic 06's timeline!

@shinysamurott613

7 жыл бұрын

shadow_phoenix 54 Everything

@LuckiSir

6 жыл бұрын

The were smoking some of that Iblis stuff

@gogeta_ssj4_supersaiyan4_y16

6 жыл бұрын

shadow_phoenix 54 LSD and Marijuana

@lpfan4491

6 жыл бұрын

they were smoking mephiles xD

@ethanamorales640

3 жыл бұрын

The ketamine that's inside the tranquilizer darts from the Madagascar movies

The proper sonic timeline. 1. Fat guy turns bunnies into robots 2. Go get him ...

@dapzle3459

6 жыл бұрын

LukeOfTroy true

@justinw9455

4 жыл бұрын

I miss the simpler times. Robotnik tries to stop sonic with his robots and vehicles that's it

Why does everyone mistake Shadow for Sonic THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE

@ivopoulsen

7 жыл бұрын

European hedgehog has mainly monochrome color vision, although it does appear to be able to distinguish some colors. For instance, he notes that “yellow was distinguished from all shades of grey and blue” in good light.

@TheTheisson

7 жыл бұрын

if you look at early concept art for shadow you can see he looked alot more like a black sonic

@SonicNKnux

7 жыл бұрын

Supposedly Gerald Robotnik based Shadow's design off of the mural he discovered on Angel Island prophesizing the battle between Super Sonic and Eggman in space at the end of Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

@slateoffate9812

6 жыл бұрын

Fedeage Does stuff They could've mistaken Shadow for another super Form for Sonic. At the time Sonic had experienced Super and Hyper already.

@stardust5138

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe shadow was a dark blue, but VERY late in devolpment, shadow was changed to black?

I reckon Sonic 2017 takes place after Sonic Chronicles, then.

@Hyperdragon1701

7 жыл бұрын

yap and i belive it will take place in the time of the first robotnic war together with the freedom fighters (archie sonic comics)

@NANIXON1998

7 жыл бұрын

It'd be cool if they brought the archie story(ies) into it, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high

@SMD234WG

7 жыл бұрын

Albawuff Wrong timeline.

@ivopoulsen

7 жыл бұрын

been wishing this since 06

@RipRoxas

7 жыл бұрын

That would be kinda cool if it did take place after Chronicals after Eggguy took over Earth... I think

15 AS intensifies

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for not making a "Bull Shit" joke like these other chodes.

@neetlikereallyneet9103

6 жыл бұрын

*insert bull shit joke to trigger snake*

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

I will find you.

@Morbius-Tension

4 жыл бұрын

Aggghhh Behold the ULTIMATE POWER

I love how you included knuckles' chaotix and sonic runners and the tails games

@thrasher9534

2 жыл бұрын

@Super Mario Michael wait how

Awesome video, but... Where does SegaSonic Popcorn shop fit in?

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

Don't do this.

@kaimanparkerPA-C

6 жыл бұрын

Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car?

@fl0wm0ti0n3

6 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake Sonic ice cream bar with gummy eyes the video game 2007?

@dwade3mvp3

6 жыл бұрын

Kaiman Parker sometime between Sonic 2 and Sonic CD Sonic felt like getting popcorn, but sadly while getting the popcorn the conveyor belt he was standing on starts moving! It was Robotnik (before he was eggman)! Now he has to run against the belt and save his popcorn! Of course he does beat Robotnik and happily eats his popcorn (maybe Tails eats too). And then Sonic CD happens. There I did it.

@kaimanparkerPA-C

6 жыл бұрын

GabbyPlays I am so satisfied now! I finally understand!

i didn't think dark brotherhood one of my favorite games came last in the timeline i didn't think it was canon but you made it pretty clear it was, good job!

Never realized that the Sonic games had a lot of time travelling until I watched this video. Excellent job.

I would have made Sonic and Eleis's relationship based more off of a strong friendship and respect for one another rather than romance. I also would have made Eleis more tomboyish and hardy and give her a little depth.

@KDawg92801

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Joseph the wiki states that elise had a crush on sonic

@fabianugalde3789

3 жыл бұрын

Also I would have turned Elise into an anthro animal like a phoenix or something. I agree that it would have been cooler for her to be more of a fighter so that she could be playable. As well it could have been interesting to see her come back (if she had this qualities) and Sonic and pals visit her to see hows Solena.

After Sonic Chronicles happened where Eggman took over the world, Project Sonic 2017 begins.

@KoKuTanLuFi

7 жыл бұрын

*mind blown* However, I like the theories about timeeater being created due to all the time travel, I'm wondering if Project 2017 will touch on that subject or just be what you say.

@decay101

7 жыл бұрын

yea I always wondered what happens in the end

@KaiserMattTygore927

7 жыл бұрын

That actually makes sense.

@ArynBacklogDragon

7 жыл бұрын

there's this one theory that the Time Eater was actually the leftovers of Mephiles created due to him being erased in the past (it had the same color scheme as Mephiles being black and purple and it had a flame motif about it similar to Iblis, also, it caused Crisis City AND the Iblis spawn to appear in the White void, which shouldn't have happened since '06 events were erased.)

@decay101

7 жыл бұрын

OttoeCamn .....I see I love these theores

It'd be pretty cool if Sonic Forces takes place right after Chronicles' Cliffhanger ending.

@boergerplays8353

6 жыл бұрын

Okagemi: The Original 1k I know right it would make alot of sense

Makes you realize how crazy this timeline is about a fast running hedgehog...

omg sonic 06 just fucked up the whole timeline

@manelneedsaname1773

6 жыл бұрын

It fucks up the franchise and the timeline too what a great game

@gtaylor1229

6 жыл бұрын

fox sonic They created more timelines than Barry.. 😂

@quinttwo

6 жыл бұрын

fox sonic Ya see, I like it this way, and I'm not the only one. The game was terrible- but it made all of the other games perfectly piece together. Sure, it did create seven timelines, two where sonic was killed- but it fit together a lot of games in the process.

Wow Sonic 06 made like 8 different timelines. And now I'm sure Mania made another one. I'm glad they're continuing to add to Sonic's lore. They had some interesting ideas.

@manuelalbertoromero9528

6 жыл бұрын

Either that or they're just making stuff up as it goes.

Anytime he says an older timeline like 4000 bs it makes me laugh so hard. 50+BS

@Jack.Akrasia

4 жыл бұрын

"Unknown Time BS" summarizes Sonic 06 perfectly 0:52

@GammaMuDMu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jack.Akrasia but it's as

I like that a game series that doesn't really have a cannon time line or a simple one can be speculated. I like fun speculation like this.

Marvelous work. Subbed!

What the heck is BS? Is it the Bullshit era?

@OldThrowaway

7 жыл бұрын

BS = before sonic AS = after sonic

@neilcalvin9933

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Barnes Wait so Sonic is the Jesus of his dimension?

@gemstonegynoid7475

6 жыл бұрын

Ha, I kept thinking it said bullshit

@jasonbourne7728

6 жыл бұрын

Not Firework917 VirusComputerBad2003 it means before sonic dumbass

@bdnroleo9494

6 жыл бұрын

before sonic

All in all though, this time line is incredibly crazy! Great job doing this kind of research!

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Luckily, this is about as big and complex as any timeline I've covered has gotten.

@user-kc6sr4hx8q

7 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake Well it's about to get longer: How does Sonic-Boom, Sonic Mania, and Sonic Forces fit into this time-line? I get if you can't do Sonic Forces or Sonic Mania yet, since they haven't come out yet, but im very interested to see how they're involved.

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Boom is alternate continuity, Forces is currently theorised to take place after Sonic Brotherhood based on my timeline, Mania seems to be towards the end of the Classic Era, and Classic Sonic in Forces seems to have the new bounce dash move from Mania, suggesting he's from just after Mania.

@user-kc6sr4hx8q

6 жыл бұрын

I noticed you made a couple mistakes after Mania came out because it literally fucks up the timeline, so I fixed it up for you. Your welcome: 11 AS - Sonic the Hedgehog 11(2.5) AS - SegaSonic the Hedgehog 11(5) Tails Sky Patrol 11(7.5) Sonic Labyrinth 12 AS 12(1.1) Sonic Chaos 12(2.2) Sonic Spinball 12(3.3) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 12(4.4) Sonic the Hedgehog 3 12(5.5) Sonic & Knuckles 12(6.6) Sonic CD (bad-ending) >> Timeline #2 12(6.6) Sonic CD (good-ending)>> Timeline #3 ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline #2 12(6) Sonic Mania (good-ending) >> Timeline 4 12(6) Sonic Mania (bad-ending) >> Timeline 5 ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline 3 12(9.9) Sonic Triple Trouble 12(10) Knuckles Chaotix 13 AS Sonic and the Fighters 13(1.6) Sonic 3D Blast 13(3.2) Sonic Generations >> ??? >>> Timeline 3, 13(4.8) 13(4.8) Sonic Blast 13(6.4) Sonic R 13(8) Sonic Adventure 13(9.6) Sonic Shuffle 14 Sonic Adventure 2 14(1) Sonic Advance 14(2) Sonic Advance 2 14(3) Sonic Pinball Party 14(4) Sonic Heroes 14(5) Shadow the Hedgehog (good ending) >> Timeline 6 14(5) Shadow the Hedgehog (bad ending) >> Timeline 7 ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline 4 16(1) Sonic Lost World 16(2) Sonic Forces ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline 5 12(7) Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Ep I 12(8) Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Ep II 12(9) Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Ep III ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline 6 14(6) Sonic Battle 14(7) Sonic Rush 14(8) Sonic Advance 3 14(9) Sonic Jump 14(10) Sonic Riders 15 Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 15(2) Sonic Rush Adventure 15(3) Sonic Rivals 15(4) Sonic and the Secret Rings 15(5) Sonic Rivals 2 15(6) Sonic Riders Zero Gravity 15(7) Sonic Unleashed 15(8) Sonic and the Black Knight 15(9) Sonic Free Riders 15(10) Sonic Colors 16 Sonic Generations >> ??? >>> Timeline 6, 16(1) | Timeline 4 Created 16(1) Sonic Lost World 16(2) Sonic Runners 16(3) Sonic Chronicles - The Dark Brotherhood ------------------------------------------------------ Timeline 7 Nothing happens, timeline 4,6 are erased( or more exactly unaccessible, which is why there is no game about it) ------------------------------------------------------ I can explain how I got this if you'd like but it's a bit of a long one and contains Spoilers. PS: I didn't time the whole story like you did; only when the games take place. You can do that! 😅

Is it just me, or does sonic forces’s plot fits in perfectly at the end.

This is amazing Great job 👍

I loved, it actually made sense and niw I understand the sequence👍🏼💯💙

@The4thSnake

5 жыл бұрын

Thank. Make sure you watch the other Sonic episodes for both the explanation of how I got here, and the follow-up post-Mania and Forces.

WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL SONIC 06?!?! Why did you do this to the timeline? Also I haven't seen anyone point out Mario and Sonic at the *Blank* Olympic games. I mean it's obviously not Cannon but it could be a timeline all on it's own. Not like Sonic 06 made 12 unessary timelines or anything. Edit: Also really comment section? Are you so unoriginal that there's only one easy to make Joke it the whole thing.

@lpfan4491

6 жыл бұрын

Ukulele Pichu 64 the future fucked up everything xD

@fabianugalde3789

3 жыл бұрын

What about the Sega All Stars games?

Don't forget that Elise's Chaos Emerald is the reason Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were sent to the future. Since Silver brings it to the past and gives it to her, she can't have it in the early timelines, meaning she can't give it to Sonic.

"eggman nega betrays his ancestor and attempts to seal the planet inside a card" god i love this franchise

14:27 "Team sonic and the Babylon rogues have an extreme gay competition over the arts of the cosmos"

@Acejak1234

6 жыл бұрын

i believe he said gear its just that his accent made it sound like gay

@bdnroleo9494

6 жыл бұрын

I heard I too

@LogicalMarcochip

6 жыл бұрын

*mm2wood* I knew couldn't have been the only one to hear that.

@MaximG.

6 жыл бұрын

I can't unhear that now!

Woah woah, this whole timeline is confusing

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

If you watch the other video, it'll make more sense, since that's where I explained it.

@JoJovan

6 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake Ok thanks

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU for watching.

@JoJovan

6 жыл бұрын

Btw can you do Mega Man?

You did a good way of representing Sonic o-6

I watched this vid once and have been looking for it for eveeeeeeeer

Not only was sonic 06 a fucked up game, but it also fucked up the timeline.

@BurmudaTriangleTV

7 жыл бұрын

Yep. 8 fucking timelines created in a single game.

@eyak4237

7 жыл бұрын

Sonic 06 was meant to be a reboot of the entire series

@Densester

7 жыл бұрын

GabePlaysGames But then sonic 06 ends by making the game non cannon

@reeledfiber115gaming6

7 жыл бұрын

now I know 06 is not a time paradox

@PLouis18

7 жыл бұрын

sonic 06 is a peace of shit and a meuder fucking game But this fucking game. reunid the story Fuck you sonic 06

Wow My Head's Spinning-

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

It's a lot to take in, I know. If you've not seen the main analysis to show how I reached this point, that MIGHT help.

@trashykidgamer3858

7 жыл бұрын

+The4thSnake Alright- But Great Video tho

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Trashy KidGamer Thank you. I put up one on Metroid just yesterday, as well.

Timeline #13 Sonic Mania And then the Phantom Ruby, along with Classic Sonic was sent to the future. Timeline #14: Sonic Forces

Would you mind making some kind of visual for this, something akin to the Zelda timeline in Hyrule Historia? This is way too much for me to wrap my head around lol

yeah, when sega said forces was not related to chronicles... this highly implies that they were lying... or didnt even know where their own timeline was. would you/others think that because of this timeline, forces may take place after chronicles?

@RipRoxas

7 жыл бұрын

It would kinda make sense to make sonic Chronicals a canonical prequel to Sonic Forces. Well atleast for me

@gogeta_ssj4_supersaiyan4_y16

6 жыл бұрын

damondomenic yeah, like when they said that S3&K wasn't canon and that S3 and S&K were completely separate game, but in reality S3&K is canon being the complete game and S3 and S&K being the half of the full game Oh, and also that goes for Super Emeralds not being canon

@reeledfiber115gaming6

6 жыл бұрын

but forces happens because of mania

@lpfan4491

6 жыл бұрын

not even sega knows what the hell they did with the timeline xD

Um... where does the timeline with Eggman using The World fits in?

@1300ness

6 жыл бұрын

Gogeta_SSJ4_(Super Saiyan 4)_YT Sonic Mania?, it's another dimension, it takes place after Sonic and Knuckles and from there is little bit difficult to keep track, taking the metal sonic 1.0 boss and ending to a count it takes place at the same time as dimension 1's Sonic 4 Episode 2

@gogeta_ssj4_supersaiyan4_y16

6 жыл бұрын

OkayNess k Also the joke was in purpose

I would make go along the lines of this: timeline 13, 14AS, sonic flies back to angel island with tails after seeing seeing it fall back to the ocean. When they get there, egg robos are digging up the ground, eventually finding the phantom ruby (a dimensional time altering stone thing), it then sends sonic and tails (& Knuckles) to green hill zone, after multiple dimensional shifts, sonic has all chaos emeralds and uses them to beat eggman in a flash, the phantom ruby then spazes out and teleports sonic to the void, along with eggman and heavy king(altered by the phantom ruby into a super form). After sonic wins, the phantom ruby then sends him into another future timeline. Timeline 14, 18AS, mania sonic/2D sonic is sent spindashing in to a giant rock, in turn saving his future self. The phantom ruby has disappeared and modern is (enter sonic forces plot + ending). A few gaps here and there, but I think this would be closish. [Don't know why I re-commented]

A few things i'd like to point out. It's speculated that Sonic 4 takes place in an alternate timeline where little planet was left in a bad future, given it's state in Episode metal. That would also explain how Metal Sonic 1.0 is still alive in Sonic Heroes, since it was destroyed in the Sonic 4 timeline. However that would also assume that in the good future of little planet Metal Sonic survived. I'd speculate that Sonic pocket adventure takes place before 4 in that timeline and before Sonic Adventure, since it debuts sonic's Green eye maturity, and Eggmans modern attire later in the game. It's also important to note that in Sonic Advance 3, the world was split into 7 different parts, which might explain why afterwards the world is different in games like Unleashed.

Here's a timeline I created with lots of notes: archiesoniconline.com/board/index.php?topic=1364.0

Where is Sonic Drift Sonic Drift 2 Sonic Pocket Adventure

@jamesoffutt2801

7 жыл бұрын

SSJ4 Tarfful that's up to us to figure out.

@sonicyoshifan6451

7 жыл бұрын

SSJ4 Tarfful Pocket Adventure Probably Is Sometime Between Sonic 2 And 3. Drift 1 And 2 Are Between R.

@reeledfiber115gaming6

7 жыл бұрын

SSJ4 Tarfful sonic drift isn't Canon but pocket adventure he forgot

@okamiodonnell9153

7 жыл бұрын

SSJ4 Tarfful Pocket Adventure takes place before Sonic 4 and Adventure. The Drift games really have no story, but Drift can take place anytime after CD and Drift 2 takes place anytime after Triple Trouble. Both must take place before Pocket Adventure though.

@thomasing7017

6 жыл бұрын

Those aren’t in the main cannon

Sonic '06 was a clusterfuck of timelines. Thank chaos they retconned that.

really cool man

That moment you realize sonic actually has a deep and complex story through multiple games. If the games just made more connections to each other then the plot would actually be awesome (minus sonic 06)

You added sonic R? Wow you really tried to include EVERY game.

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Well, every game with story.

@evandowling3137

7 жыл бұрын

wait sonic r has a story 😶

eggman, now misrable, aloof and violently envious of his nemises's success, plots to end sonics life forever, but missfires in his attempt, shattering a chaos emerald before their eyes. setting the events in sonic blast.

Main Character Immunity Is Strong With This One

Where would Sonic Pocket Adventure on the NeoGeo Pocket Color fit on all of this?

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Probably roughly analagous to the release order of the games.

@RWBYraikou888

7 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake In that case, it'd be in between Sonic Adventure and Sonic Shuffle.

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Link, the Hero of the Minish I guess so.

@kverie2846

6 жыл бұрын

Probably after Sonic 3 and some time before Sonic 4, since eggman is still using his classic costume, and changes to his modern appearance at the end of the game

4000bs 4000 bullshit

I see this as canon.

Good job bro

No-one will ever fucking convince me the mobile games are cannon. Never.

@venerealmelon

6 жыл бұрын

Megermen the Roblunt there arent a literal cannon but can i convince you that they are canon?

Wait wait, people care about the stories in Sonic games???

@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind

6 жыл бұрын

Pff Not all, but most of Sonic games are connected plot-wise.

@mayonnaiz-7990

6 жыл бұрын

Most of the people play sonic for the continuing storyline

@lstacey143

6 жыл бұрын

Really? The continuing storyline? I always thought of the stories all as stand alone type of thing. I don't see how they are connected, other then direct sequels. Even in the case of SA1 and SA2 the plot and story really isn't carried over. I dont know, the story just never seemed that important to me.

@cursedseeker1273

6 жыл бұрын

I do

@risehurricane2520

5 жыл бұрын

Noob

If you ever do a new version of this it would be great to have the logo of the relevant game the info your at that moment talking about in the corner of the screen or something.

Where did you get that awesome footage of Shade and the clan from? I've never seen that before.

God 06 was so epic!

the legend of zelda this aint

I think you did a great job

Your the best now I know sonic history it was good to know you

This is neat, but how does the entirety of Sonic X fit into this?

@rektangle1468

6 жыл бұрын

...or is that just not canon like the other movies & the comic, even though some of the events are tied into Sonic Adventure DX and SA2B? I'm talking about when they meet that fuckin green thing and do shit in space or whatever

@irishuisman1450

6 жыл бұрын

Rektangle Sonic x is an alternate timeline. While it does explain some things that weren't explained in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, the show is a seperate canon.

@chocov1233

5 жыл бұрын

@@rektangle1468 Specifically the DX and Battle re-releases?

@tonyt1616

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocov1233 The stories are unchanged in the re-releases, minus a Cream the Rabbit cameo(this is probably Cream learning how to fly, most likely before she even gets Cheese) but her appearance in SADX doesn't change the story of Sonic Adventure since she doesn't interact with the main heroes. SA2B and SA2's stories are identical minus alterations in cutscenes, but the narrative is completely unchanged.

@tonyt1616

4 жыл бұрын

-Plus in Sonic Heroes, she mentions knowing about the Perfect Chaos crisis in Station Square, but didn't know that Amy and more importantly Big were directly involved in the events. This probably backs up her cameo since SADX released before Heroes.-

Here's my interpretation! (year 1) (2012) (age 12) 1. Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Sega Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Sonic Chaos 4. Sonic Spinball 5. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 6. Sonic CD (year 2) (2013) (age 13) 7. Tail's Skypatrol 8. Sonic Labyrinth 9. Tail's Adventure 10. Sonic The Hedgehog 3 11. Sonic & Knuckles 12. Sonic Triple Trouble 13. Knuckles Chaotix 14. Sonic the Fighters 15. Sonic Mania (year 3) (2014) (age 14) 16. Sonic 3D Blast 17. Sonic Blast 18. Sonic R 19. Sonic 4 episode 1 20. Sonic 4 episode Metal 21. Sonic 4 episode 2 22. Sonic Adventure 23. Sonic Shuffle (year 4) (2015) (age 15) 24. Sonic Adventure 2 25. Sonic Advance 26. Sonic Advance 2 27. Sega Superstar Pinball 28. Sonic Heroes 29. Shadow the Hedgehog 30. Sonic Battle 31. Sonic Advance 3 32. Sonic Jump 33. Sonic Riders (year 5) (2016) (age 16) 34. Sonic 06 35. Sonic Rush 36. Sonic Rivals 37. Sonic Rush Adventure 38. Sonic and the Secret Rings 39. Sonic Rivals 2 40. Sonic Riders Zero Gravity 41. Sonic Unleashed 42. Sonic and the Black Knight 43. Sonic Free Riders 44. Sonic Lost World 45. Sonic Colors 46. Sonic Jump: Fever 47. Sonic Runners 48. Sonic Dash 49. Sonic Runners: Adventure (year 6) (2017) (age 17) 50. Sonic Generations 51. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood 52. Sonic Forces

@daisukedoi9284

7 жыл бұрын

Wait, lost world comes after Generations because Sonic already knows about the wisps

@r3n3gad33

7 жыл бұрын

+TheHumanSonikku But Eggman came back for unknown reasons and Sonic doesn't seem to recognize the Wisps!

@r3n3gad33

7 жыл бұрын

*48. Sonic Dash

@RWBYraikou888

7 жыл бұрын

Why is Rush on the list twice?

@r3n3gad33

7 жыл бұрын

+Link, the Hero of the Minish It was supposed to ment Sonic Dash!

Honestly, you could simplify the timeline much more if you assume 06 was part of a separate timeline since the beginning and the erasure of the Solaris flame is what created the timeline where every other sonic game takes place. As in, Blaze being another dimension is a result of 06 and her response to the description of sonic in 06 is either because she's remembering things from the timeline that she'll soon be part of, or she only responded that way because of some random hint of sonic that exists in the future, like maybe a act clear sign with his face on it.

Sonic was born in 1976 Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 actually took place in 1991, as Sonic was 15 and the game takes place around the 15th anniversary. Along with that, back in 1991, SEGA confirmed that Sonic was 15, and it was in the original game's manual.

on knuckles' birth in the sonic jam bio for knuckles, he's actually 15, whilst sonic is 16 info.sonicretro.org/images/0/05/CS_S_US.png info.sonicretro.org/images/7/74/CS_K_US.png

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

I think I remember hearing about that, actually. But yeah, that's wrong.

@Axxidous

6 жыл бұрын

That has been updated to Sonic being 15 and Knuckles being 16 since Sonic Adventure. Even in Heroes' manual you can find this.

Wait a minute. Egg man nega is 16? Silver is 15 and he was born a year after nega.

@antoninio2010

6 жыл бұрын

And also no spoiler warning?

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

What? Where did you get that idea? And who goes onto a video that lays out a timeline and doesn't expect spoilers?

@tonyt1616

4 жыл бұрын

Circa, meaning estimate, around 200 AS, most likely 30-40 years earlier but since we don't know how old Dr. Eggman Nega is, we don't know when he was born.

I always felt like the battle that takes place at the very beginning of Sonic Unleashed is the end of Sonic Chronicles.

Sheez, Sonic needs to ease up on the time travel a little bit. Too many timelines!

Wait... Sonic Forces is the sequel to sonic the dark brotherhood? CONFIRMED FACT

I'm more confused after watching the video

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

The main video might help.

"Eggman Nega betrays his ancestor and attempts to place the world inside a card."

The complexity of this timeline is probably one of the reasons Sega has struggled with sonic so much in recent years tho sonic mania was amazing I'm looking forward to see how that fits in the timeline also hope we aren't let down by forces looks great atm

wot...

@macopper4198

6 жыл бұрын

DBarationX m8

So sonic 06' let's talk

@The4thSnake

6 жыл бұрын

About what?

@stiltedrumpskin4019

6 жыл бұрын

The4thSnake it pretty much ruins what was great lore IMO

I actually really like the semi-mature Sonic universe and its complex timeline. It's sad how this franchise aged.

Fantastic👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

so wait eggman and maria are siblings?

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Cousins.

@xXrebuXx

7 жыл бұрын

oh ok

Idk why but I just love the bs throw it mean befor sonic but I think it could be bull shit like sonic 06 and *gags* sonic boom

never knew sonic had such a serious history

Wait, Vector is older then all (Except Shadow) of the main cast?

worse than Zelda timeline.

@RipRoxas

7 жыл бұрын

I would say as complicated

@Axxidous

6 жыл бұрын

^ You guys are joking right? I've literally NEVER heard anyone say the Zelda timeline makes sense. XD And actually, this one is pretty linear with what merely includes time travel stories that are nothing more than loops and zig-zags. There's no branching out or on-going alternate timelines, at least none that are covered. lol

Of course the worst game in the series has to screw up everything

The future of yours is a very bright one. took a couple games

No surprise this whole thing started getting convoluted around Sonic 06.

So you mention the events of Sonic 3/& Knuckles but don't mention the super emeralds, which was used to form Hyper Sonic. Is Hyper Sonic noncannon?

@1300ness

6 жыл бұрын

They were supposed to be a "lock-on bonus" for the player. Put it like this, you just finished Sonic 3 with all the 7 chaos emeralds and Sonic and Knuckles comes around like 3 weeks after that, the super rings in S&K are just a insta Super Sonic if not an Easy mode itself. So... More emeralds more play time. The story in S3&K is canon, just without the Super Emeralds.

@marcusmayo

5 жыл бұрын

@@1300ness A year late but something I noticed though the super emeralds are still in the game sonic and knuckles even without adding sonic 3 to the lock on. Not to mention the super emeralds have reappeared in sonic mania again.

Hey I just had an idea what if the sonic and nights into dreams are set in a the same universe and if they you can add nights to the timeline

Lol. This is actually perfect. I was expecting you to miss out slot of the classic games that are not too well known either but you didn't. And you somehow even found a way to fit in riders into the time line which I always struggled to do. Now I know they ARE cannon. (I thought riders was the only non cannon series) Thanks for giving me a good time :)

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

Thank so much. Be sure to stick around because I'm going to do an update once Mania and Forces are out.

Love this. Thanks for peicing together this convoluted timeline.

@The4thSnake

7 жыл бұрын

No problem, pal.

Oh. Oh. The legendary Sonic The Hedgehog.

... That's a chaos emerald! (in reference to a chaos emerald)

This is the ULTIMATE POWER

Nice vid man Idk if i just wasn't paying attention (which I think was the case because I didn't see anyone else say this) but wheres sonic the hedgehog 2