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@MarlonBos

11 ай бұрын

Hi guys. I would love to do an edit for one of your next videos if you are up for it? :) Free of charge..

@MostlyLoveOfMusic

11 ай бұрын

link to the full interview with Rex?

@F_L_A_Bird

11 ай бұрын

Gentlemen ‼️ I'm not getting notifications 😮

@F_L_A_Bird

11 ай бұрын

I don't trust ANYONE🃏 anyone🕵️

@christinecarter2655

11 ай бұрын

You

The girl who was to go out on a date with Rodney Alcala from the Dating Game Show later refused because she found him "too creepy". Smart girl.

@k8marlowe

11 ай бұрын

That’s right! I saw that recently on a documentary.

@jeffrecrowley

11 ай бұрын

I watched that too.

@robertwinfree3197

9 ай бұрын

I just came to say that.

@shirleymason3853

2 ай бұрын

I remember that there was a serial killer who had been on the dating game… you may know from reading, I believe that I heard it on the news (which is telling my age-somewhat)

This whole thing is bizarre. Both of them have social weirdness going on. Its uncomfortable to watch

@heather11

11 ай бұрын

Yes I felt the same. Like this guy was given this assignment with noooo idea what the subject was and this guy is so crazy domineering and narcissistic that he laughs to cover his lack of comfort

@Dragonfly657

11 ай бұрын

One is goofy one is a know it all

@hannah51238

11 ай бұрын

@@Dragonfly657 he's beyond goofy. There's something proper weird and unsettling about him. Kiss ass on an epic scale, it's so SO weird

@js2702

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Cringe fest.

@jessiesisto2038

11 ай бұрын

@@js2702couldn’t have said it better those exact words were coming out of my mind

My dad is a narcissist and to avoid confrontation and him criticizing me and hurting me, I become overly agreeable. If he feels threatened he will defend and by proxy, attack. So I have to put him at ease and make sure he knows I’m on his side and he is smart and funny and right. So I laugh and just tell him he’s funny and right. Similarly to the interviewer. Not saying he was consciously making those choices here, but I could see myself in a similar situation.

@pjmackall

8 ай бұрын

It’s called, “fawning.”

I knew a serial killer. My friend and neighbor introduced me to him and he came by my apartment several times for coffee and danish/donuts. He invited me to go somewhere, my boyfriend was invited as well, but something happened to me when he arrived that day that saved my life. I opened the door and I literally lost my breathe, like it was sucked out of me and i said, without thinking, "I changed my mind!" and slammed the door. I don't know what happened in that moment. Perhaps i read his body language or something at a more subtle energy made me aware. He murdered probably 25 or more people, two of my friends. I'm very fortunate and always tell others to listen to their instincts about people.

@reneet5858

10 ай бұрын

Thank God you listened to your gut feeling!

@ThatRedhedd

10 ай бұрын

What was their name?

@marad9341

10 ай бұрын

@@ThatRedhedd Leonard Lake but I knew him as Allen Drey.

Tbh the first guy comes across like every other self-important bureaucrat you avoid at a dinner party.

I was confused for awhile because I found the interviewer more disturbing than the serial killer. It was difficult for me to understand or relate to the actual killer because of the insane laughter, expressions and behavior from the interviewer.

@pewsterbaby

11 ай бұрын

I was gonna say the same thing. And the scarf. A lot of people from that region of the world come off awkward when they move to The U.S. and he's one of them. They're too pandering. It has to do with their original country's cultural norm. He's probably fine in his native land. (and he seems like a nice person which is often seen as an easy mark here in the States where males are taught to be more along the lines of the strong and silent type like Greg up there is.)

@ael5629

11 ай бұрын

@@pewsterbaby The SCARF!!! That silly, schoolboy laughing, and the sniffling. He was so bad.

@joanneblack7697

11 ай бұрын

​@@ael5629Still, I totally get that guy. It IS a cultural thing. Dressing like that is also a cultural thing. In NYC, the interviewer would be considered "a bit much" ... but the supplicating behavior can be seen in some parts of the culture. The overly laughing thing is for him a way of communicating "You are a wonderful 'raconteur', and your jokes are very funny indeed!" Thank you Mark for the phrase "florid raconteur". As fun as that is ... Rex either thinks he is, or wants to be this great "raconteur" ... and the interviewer is acting like: "Yes! You are! Oh, this is just wonderful!" Niw the interviewer doesn't believe that for a second, but it's one way to play it safe around a hostile bully.

@InterestedCitizen

11 ай бұрын

You wanted to relate to the killer? It wasn't hard for me to concentrate on both men.

@HesTNTonPMS

11 ай бұрын

If Rex is the killer like they say he is , he was probably thinking this guy was sent in to check him out, this is the feeling I get when I watch this., you have to be thinking about being set up 24/7 when and if you're living with things like they say he did on your conscience . . .

Did y’all catch the interview of Rex’s interviewer this week where he describes the death grip that was Rex’s handshake? I think that poor guy inherently knew something was so wrong and his nervous laughter was his psyche’s panic alert.

@allwayscgood576

11 ай бұрын

Link?

@likeasoldier777

11 ай бұрын

@@allwayscgood576you could look it up. :)

@SuzOfNine

11 ай бұрын

When I was about 20 I used to work in a car service garage where a regular customer would come in and take delight in crushing my hand whilst smiling in my face the whole time, to the point at which I just stopped putting my hand forward when he did (even though it made it temporarily awkward) after he fractured a bone on the back of my hand. Clearly some weird show of power so I never let it show on my face he was hurting me or that I knew it was deliberate. Weirdo.

@allwayscgood576

11 ай бұрын

@@likeasoldier777 I’m aware that’s an option. I figured this guy had it. I don’t know the dudes name. Don’t know how to look it up. I’ll figure it out but I thought I’d ask

@tamararutland-mills9530

11 ай бұрын

@@allwayscgood576It’s on KZread.

I can't stand to even hear his voice, because that was the last voice those poor girls heard. It makes my skin crawl, to hear his voice. I can hear this monster saying vile things to them, as he held them in his hands. He's sick, and I'm SO glad that the investigators never gave up...The Lost Girls.. In the search for Shannan, SHE brought the police to these bodies. God bless her.

@peterbustin2683

11 ай бұрын

He's horrible. Those poor girls must have been terrified.

It's easy to see how this guy blended in in NYC. I lived there for 12 years. There are a lot of obnoxious braggarts like this guy in NYC, who talk big, and where skirting the rules was something to be very proud of. This guy is very proud of how he read the Bldg Code so well that he could find loopholes in it. I saw SO MANY versions of this behavior, it barely stands out.

@josephconnor2310

11 ай бұрын

I'm a new Yorker. I agree with you on this.

@kristykanen9315

11 ай бұрын

Kinda trump - like 🤨

@joanneblack7697

11 ай бұрын

@@kristykanen9315 Pretty much yes. Especially when Trump was, similar to this guy, in the Building and Construction Business ... it was the same kind of "big talk" business. It was an NYC thing, and he was the most famous for this kind of thing. But yeah. Very NYC. Easy to blend in.

@Helvetica247

11 ай бұрын

@@kristykanen9315 yes - who knows they could be related. Both from good German stock. And growing up a stones’ throw from each other and working in Manhattan, they share more than a few mannerisms as well.

To a woman, this man is IMPOSING. Hes an entire foot taller than most Women, overweight with broad body. I can’t imagine a man like this unleashing his anger and sexual perversion on these poor girls. Can’t imagine the terror they must have felt.

@marilynnlewis8400

11 ай бұрын

Yes, you would not be able to get away. I think that's why he liked prostitutes, he didn't see them as people. Because they work in a dangerous world and other women would get a vibe from him.

@Amanita23

11 ай бұрын

and his Wife looks nothing like these females! I'm convinced his murderous ways have nothing to do with his home life. It's 2 different worlds that he could separate. I do think he really was a Family Man. I also think he had his dark fantasy life. We really need to know his Motives. The Interview is very odd, that he speaks about his Hammer and it does sound very murderous. Like He thinks as a Murderer, he's relating to another Man as a violent being without telling him He is a Murderer. Like "You Know what I saying, Right?" Ohh Yeah *Wink Wink* Nod....WE ALL Murder Women at Night! Yeah Totally. It's very Brotherhood. It's very American Psycho. It's very politican. It's very in Your face. Why was this Man being Interviewed in the first place?

@ideamachine39

11 ай бұрын

get over yourself

Just note - he talks about his first job with Harvey - a girl went missing from the same business in like 1991 or something while he was working there.

As a born and bred New Yorker I kind of agree with Greg. This guy is so much a type of New Yorker: the big, boring, very verbal braggart.

@sarac1118

11 ай бұрын

My dad always told me never to trust anyone with an East Coast accent. Sadly, it’s been proven true on many occasions.

@HesTNTonPMS

11 ай бұрын

125 and Amsterdam ave here

@HesTNTonPMS

11 ай бұрын

Uhhh huh you hit it

I think we should keep an eye on the interviewer too 😂

@MB-wx4gp

11 ай бұрын

Same, what a weirdo!

Interviewer laughing hysterically about building codes….but you can tell he wants to get out of there.

@Popgenpop

11 ай бұрын

@@InterestedCitizen Who knows. But the interview alone was enough to sense that Rex is off. He can’t connect with people. If you haven’t seen it yet, a woman who went on a date with him was recently interviewed, and she was so creeped out, she ended it early and told her friends she believed he was the LISK… always listen to your gut.

When you said someone laughing about a kid being hurt is not normal it reminded me when I was a kid and in our TV's appeared those "funny" home videos from USA where someone gets hurt and everyone laughs. It was so different from how jokes were in my country at that time that I remember we all family sitting and watching and going - ohh, o no, that's awful, he could have died... - and couldn't understand how can those be called funny, it was awful to watch and made heart hurt. We thought that all americans must be some psychopaths or something to laugh and present such things as funny.

My blood runs cold whenever I see Rodney Alcala’s face! I grew up in 70’s California and one day while walking to the store with friends, I was stopped by a guy that told me that he, “was an art student at Cal State Hayward and needed to take portrait photos for his photography class and could he take mine?” Obviously I had no idea until years later that I made a lucky escape from the “Dating Game Killer.” There were so many elements of our meeting that I always assumed were coincidence until I listened to the podcast about him. Not one element was coincidence. Not one. Blood. Chilling.

@soowzy

11 ай бұрын

Glad you escaped! Had my own not as scary but definitely creepy interaction with Alcala. Figure drawing class at UCIrvine, '70ish. In walks the model, fit guy, big hair, wearing a black G string. up until then, models were fully nude. The black G string just looked like a big black arrow: "look at me!" Was actually more uncomfortable than full nudity, with his preening attitude. During the break, he sidled up and engaged males in the class (thankfully), but his whole demeanor was much like the Dating Game video. Recognized him right away when he was arrested and his picture was in the OC Register Paper. Glad I wasn't on that jury. What a creep.

@michellelesser2924

11 ай бұрын

Burbank was where I ran into Alcala. The equestrian center, he was "with the Times" and "doing a story" on horse riding. No, Acala had zero coincidence in anything. Took a long while to realize a) who he was, b) that I was vulnerable, and c) it actually happened. I am grateful both/all of us somehow was not his "type" and are here to tell our tale, as it were.

@SuzOfNine

11 ай бұрын

I don't know you yet I'm so glad you're safe! ❤

@ginnystout6908

11 ай бұрын

Oh wow, @soowzy that actually does sound traumatizing. It’s interesting that he chose to wear the black G string, and would probably make for interesting psychological analysis… obviously nothing to do with modesty, likely all about power. (Unless he was “masking” a source of shame or inferiority. Hmmm…) 😆 My dad was a professional photographer and I had actually just gotten into big trouble for “ducking the camera” when he went to take a candid shot of me just a few weeks before I ran into Alcala. It helped to create the perfect storm. I actually called the FBI case agent after seeing the story on 48 hours or 20/20 to enquire about the area that I lived and if they could verify that it was within his hunting ground and was told, “absolutely.” I would really like to go and volunteer to help scan and post the thousands of photos that RA took during his reign of terror. I think it would be cathartic. Have you listened to The Dating Game Killer podcast? It’s chilling! What is most disturbing is how many times he committed absolutely heinous crimes, was given a slap on the wrist, and was then freed to assault and kill again! Just shocking! It was really eye-opening to me with regard to the value, or lack there of, placed on girls and women. I hope that’s changing… 😵‍💫😵‍💫 Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I believe that in sharing our stories we find common ground and together we can process and heal the trauma! XO

@soowzy

11 ай бұрын

@@ginnystout6908 he was so "charming," talked his way out of stronger charges, until he couldn't. I hope his victims' families will find peace

That interview with Russel Williams will never be topped. It's like the Lord Of The Rings of interrogations. I can watch that over and over.

@la1930

11 ай бұрын

Yup Fellow Canadian here. I live very very close to Trenton

@NicolaMaxwell

11 ай бұрын

Jim Smyth is kind of a big deal

@tamararutland-mills9530

11 ай бұрын

I can’t wait to see the interview on this guy.

@tamararutland-mills9530

11 ай бұрын

@@NicolaMaxwell They ought to call him in on this fella.

That cabinet hammer comment was terrifying to hear from him.

He probably annoyed his victims to death.

@TheBehaviorPanel

11 ай бұрын

That’s actually funny. 👍

My ex was a sociopath, charming, glib, superficial. He is middle eastern with a romantic and eloquant use of language. I was me mesmerised. He had a treble life, a profession, an enforcer, husband, father and womaniser. None of which were revealed until a third party warned me. The result was rape, threatened with a pistol and money stolen from my life savings. There were no angry word, no physical violence. He smiled while he threatened. I have learned, I have forgiven. They are among us, they feel no remorse or empathy.

@rachaelb.

11 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for what you went through. Nobody deserves that treatment, except people like your ex. You were the perfect victim they search for. I hope you have peace now and have learned who not to interact with. Much love!

I read the fact that he is a code expert differently. I work as an architect in a different city and what he is describing about "negotiating" the code is pretty accurate. I spent years designing Nursing homes, they don't exactly fit the code and to make them functional we have to engage in a great deal of negotiation with the regulatory bodies. The accessibility codes are written for independence and individuals in group homes or in nursing homes are by definition not independent. Something as simple as showering someone in a nursing home requires two to three nurses/aids. That many people simply do not fit into a 30"x60" shower (the largest allowed by ADA). So the code isn't appropriate in that instance and there currently isn't a code that is. So we go off of industry guidelines and work out deals with the city and explaining this to them (this is actually something they usually readily acknowledge). But we still have to document all decisions for a particular building. And a different owner may want different adjustments. The same conversation happens around older buildings. It can be utterly impossible to update them to meet existing codes without tearing them down and starting over. But code officials often ignore the addendums to codes that accommodate this. So in we go with our code books armed with chapter and verse to argue with them. Additionally, very time a new code is adopted, we have issues with the inspectors trying to enforce the newest code on buildings that were already under construction when the code went into effect - we are required to meet the code in effect at the time of permitting not the code in effect at the time of completion. Buildings can take years to build and code changes of mere inches can have very dramatic and expensive implications. I just went through this with a code change to the size of bathroom stalls. The latest code made the accessible stall 4" bigger in both directions. We are built and there is nowhere to get the extra 4" - but we do meet the code that we were permitted under and that is the legal requirement. For what it is worth - I see someone who really enjoys living on the edge of the requirements, finding the loopholes, and besting other people's arguments. He likes to test the rules, see how far he can push them and what he can get away with. All of these things are pretty common traits of people who are good at what he does. He's into being in control of the rules. The rules are subject to his mental powers. It is about manipulation. Not so much him liking rules. Though he does like making other people follow the rules.

How is the sniffling drooling giggling interviewer creepier than Rex?! Great one guys! Thank you

@andreysavin1931

11 ай бұрын

He is just French, I think , or Belgian, , but I can be wrong, plus the scarf 🧣

@marianmorley

11 ай бұрын

He's French

Greg explained why Rex’s mannerisms remind me of George Castanza from Seinfeld! Though, I could hardly focus on Rex because the interviewer was as animated as the mad hatter! Mark explained that one. Thanks guys

Did anyone else notice the window in the background behind this guy that has the blinds all messed up like someone has been peeking out of them? It is like a foreshadowing of the creepy to come!😮

Scott really got my attention with his description of a manipulator, or psychopath, as someone controlling you by controlling the doses, ‘drops’, of dopamine like a drug to get you to follow them. Very powerful and incredibly helpful to take notice of someone telling you everything you didn’t even know you wanted to hear and ask yourself if they could be feeding you dopamine for their own benefit. Thank you Scott! All 4 of you guys blew me away with specific observations and references from a seemingly very boring interview!

@cynthiagimbel6590

11 ай бұрын

Yes. Beware the flatterer

@teresev1435

11 ай бұрын

Instead of thinking or saying “he’s charming,” think to yourself “he’s trying to charm me” and you might see the behavior more readily.

I worked for NYC back in the day and the Building Department was one of my clients. I am wondering if I ever had to deal with Heuermann on something like a permit denial or building code violation. By the way, as a lawyer for the NYC Building Department and other agencies, I had to read the codes, too. And I will assure you the building inspectors know those codes, too! So do the administrators/commissioners the inspectors answer to. His self-aggrandizing that he told the City how to do its job is incredible and a bit ludicrous!

@marilynnlewis8400

11 ай бұрын

He was probably the guy the boss sent to look for the loopholes and inconsistencies between statutes in the code. Sending him down a rabbit hole got rid of him for a while.

@r3adrpro811

11 ай бұрын

@@marilynnlewis8400 very true. And, if the commissioner was the person I think it was, he was taking great pleasure in putting Heuerman in his place by ignoring him for six hours

He was genuinely referring to his extra curricular activities when he was talking about the hammer. He was getting duping delight.

The french guy doing the interview is the one giving the strange seria killer vibes! Just comes to show!

@MauiBodyworker

11 ай бұрын

Totally

I watch every episode, why am I just now noticing how well they hide their own feelings about each other’s opinions during the observations. That’s a skill I need. My husband says he can hear me rolling my eyes.

@insideroutside

11 ай бұрын

Lol Chase often seems like he doesn't care to much for what Scott be saying. 😂

At least the young lady that picked #1 on the Dating Game decided not to go out with him. She had a "feeling" about him. ❤

@joanneblack7697

11 ай бұрын

And he was very angry that she backed out.

rex heuermann's fav topic is clearly himself

@TheBehaviorPanel

11 ай бұрын

Nailed it.

There's a phrase.."when all you have is a hammer...everything looks like a nail"

Dr G is my joint fave with you guys!! Both channels have massively helped an autistic 49 year old be a great deal better at having an awareness of what certain behaviours, mannerisms, gestures and vocal tones might indicate. I got to an older age before I found out that I hadn't ever registered/considered people's intentions. It was a shock, and took a while to accept it. Now I am more aware/alert, and it has also been a joy to feel able to learn something again, and feel such sparks of interest!!

@pampayne55

11 ай бұрын

I’m glad to hear that; it is a mark of both your intelligence and your desire to build empathy with others!

@fickle49

11 ай бұрын

@@pampayne55 That's very kind of you to say, thank you. I do have empathy. Unfortunately/fortunately I have lived with hyper-empathy. It has been debilitating at times. Incredibly painful too, and very confusing. It has always been reading people which has escaped me. That's more scary than hyper-empathy, for me personally. I have got better at it recently!

@Nina-pp7lh

11 ай бұрын

I agree. I had a brain tumor in my right frontal lobe and lost some abilities or connections in being able to process language as well as social cues. I listen to these guys and realize my shortcomings and working on reprogramming my thoughts and actions in communication. Thanks guys you rock!

@joanneblack7697

11 ай бұрын

​@@Nina-pp7lhWith all the latest knowledge about brain "plasticity" ... and how the brain can rewire itself, I hope watching videos like this helps your brain to create a workaround for anything that's been lost. 🙏

That scarf knotted so heavily😳….I was staring at that🤦🏼‍♀️

@onetime7408

11 ай бұрын

Yes. The interviewer was very distracting.

I am a New Yorker and an interior designer that works in an architecture firm. Currently live in long island and work in Manhattan. I know a few architects that worked with Rex in the past. They said he was a very nice guy and easy to work with. I agree with Greg … you must consider NY culture. I watched this interview and didn’t find anything off about him. HE is being interviewed about HiS business… why would he not sell himself? Yes he probably rehearsed some of these stories… but he has his own business.. he has to sell himself to potential clients. This is his “elevator pitch.” Coming from the same place… and the same industry… this is how people in the industry talk. Architecture is also a bit of an egotistical industry in general. So nothing about him seems out of the ordinary. Also some of the things he says that imply he is doing a better job than others is completely Typical in this field. We all feel that way lol. Probably because our job involves a crazy about of attention to detail, a crazy about of time and overtime, yet our pay sucks compared to much easier jobs. People think architects get paid well, they don’t. That’s a big misconception. Needless to say there is a lot of bitterness among us. What makes the dynamic between these two weird is that the guy interviewing him seems to know nothing about the architecture field or is very inexperienced. For example he laughed at “1938 building code” but Rex was not trying to make a joke. It is common for architects working in Manhattan to have to go back to very old building codes when doing work in historic or land marked buildings. I can imagine being a veteran in the field being interviewed by someone who has no clue what you are talking about is annoying. Work with people just like Rex all the time. Nothing off to me.

@WindTurbineSyndrome

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for your explanation. This comment should be pinned by the channel to help other viewers. In comments I was trying to explain it's a Manhattan behavior not unusual in the city. Maybe in Peoria yes. In Los Angeles everyone claims they are in entertainment field and it's usually BS trying to convince someone to take you seriously or to find work. Perfectly normal out there but would be off the wall behavior in Florida or Midwest.

@Peace-tk3gr

11 ай бұрын

RH is pathologically boring 🥱

@spirit13the1st6

11 ай бұрын

So how could you tell if he was a WACKO or not ?

@maritzapierreaponte8538

11 ай бұрын

Everything you say here. True!

@maiziebug

6 ай бұрын

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to write all that out, it absolutely was not lost on me and I read it in full as it helped me to see an objective, informed perspective about a different angle to view his demeanor with. With sincere gratitude, Jamie from New Haven, Ct. -(Not NYC but a 50 min train ride away lol)

Rex doesn’t like the interviewer… but loves where he’s going to put him… in the limelight.

Chase and Mark,'s read on the interviewer is spot-on...guy is getting spooked. 5 minutes talking to this serial killer and you can see the interviewer starting to wilt.😮

Mark, your description of what he must be like to be around at home is a very precise description of what it's like being around my dad. He is VERY tedious and just wants us all to sit for several hours and listen to him make speeches like this guy. HE thinks he's interesting and an authority but really he's just a grandiose bore, as you said. My dad is 100% a narcissist who likes to control the entire conversation because he feels he's so smart and interesting. He is visibly annoyed when other relatives are around, having enjoyable conversations without him. There's no placating laughter from me! I just roll my eyes and wait for the visit to be over.

Greg actually hit the nail on the head with the whole New Yorker thing, this guy is very New York in his attitude and mannerisms, you always have to consider where someone grew up and the culture there…

Toupee or not toupee? That is the question. 😮

@DragonHeart5150

11 ай бұрын

Lol

I can not understand why the interwiever kept laughing during the whole interview.

I swear Chase and Mark are brothers from another mother. They love taking the mick out of each other, I love it. I wish you could put bloopers in these also. This is another great video as always , and yes I was shocked that colonel Russell Williams flew our monarchy and I totally agree with Scott that he didn't just wake up one day in his 50's-60's and killed two people I believe he killed way before that. Thanks guys your doing really great work for us to learn and be vigilant. 🥰👍👏👏👏🇬🇧

@fredrikxx2867

11 ай бұрын

👍👍👍

If Peter Griffin and the guy from Office Space ("the goddamned engineers!") had a baby...it'd be Rex Heuermann. The guy is a caricature.

@TheBehaviorPanel

10 ай бұрын

Nailed it.

@Lady.Scorpio7

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@Lady.Scorpio7

5 ай бұрын

He is 100% a caricature 😂😂😂 He looks like Peter Griffin from Family Guy.

interviewer seems to be fawning - wonder if his spidey sense tells him don't be disagreeable with this guy.

@carmose

11 ай бұрын

oh - 37:20... Chase - exactly what I'm thinking

I wonder why the interviewer is laughing so much? I’m not seeing anything funny. I am always so impressed with all of you and the nuances you see. Thank you so much for the enjoyable education.

@annedavis3340

11 ай бұрын

People laugh when they're uncomfortable 😐 it read that way to me

Million bucks there's ALOT more poor women scattered all over that area

My insight on the narcissism in the hammer: I’m a furniture maker. In the “woodworking world” cabinetry making is considered the most admired and precise form of all woodwork, especially if done by hand. This ranking higher than a carpenter (framer), turner, knife maker, epoxy artist, live edge woodworker or wood sculptor, all subcategories of woodworking. Cabinetmaking the highest, and taking the most time to learn, requires precision…so the hammer is the final tool to perfect an already perfect handmade creation. It’s gentle and won’t sabotage the work. Almost like a mallet. Which he compares to the opposite a framing hammer (a lower more aggressive form of woodwork in the hierarchy). Also, for a woodworker the more tools they own, the grander they are seen in our community especially well made hand tools, I’m shocked he didn’t throw in the word “Japanese” cabinetmakers hammer which would have been the pinnacle of the tool chain. My guess he has a pretty well stocked shop, and there is a big generational component to working in your dad’s original shop. There he can fulfill all the things he believes he has fell short of to his dad right there in the shop amongst the tools. A connection is made through the lumber and the tools, he probably has a past to process regarding his dad.

What a wonderful behavior lesson from Chase, Greg, Mark & Scott. All the examples were so well described by all four of you from different angles. Jim Smyth was verbally calm taking down of Russell Willams I don’t think I could ever forget that video. I had no idea Williams flew Queen Elizabeth II & Prince Philip on a plane! Yes, hiding in plain sight! I always learn something new from watching the Behavior Panel. Scott, FYI I just ordered the book “ Snakes That Wear Suits “ thank you for recommending it. Thank you all for sharing your valuable knowledge and time with us. See you next week as always❣️

Hidden True Crime just did interview w escort who got creeped out enough by RH that she aborted their meeting after dinner at restaurant. She said he talked a lot about Gilgo beach murders in a way that creeped her out...also he was very insistent that she get in his car to go to his house -she wanted to follow in her own car. This made him angry. She was alarmed enough to have a friend meet her in parking lot so he couldnt grab her. She also said he posited theory of how the killer disposed of bodies w/o detection that she will share w LE before she goes public w that bit. She told many friends at that time that she believed him to b the LISK but not LE bc she was involved in illegal activity at that time. She's turned her life around since then and hopefully we will here from others like her who dodged the bullet w this monster

@eleanornelson5810

11 ай бұрын

Really good interview!

I guess being an excruciating bore can be a good camouflage for serial killers. Droning on about building codes and bragging about how much he knows about them would basically work as a mosquito repellent for curious questions.

A mature woman’s perspective: Red flags were popping & I would have been out of that room like a hairdresser on fire. It’s clear that this painfully tedious narchitect is largely about power & control. He never once gives a genuine smile… refuses to break script in order to play nice… feigns spontaneity. I know there are a lot of socially awkward people who are completely fine, but he comes off as the guy who was bullied as a kid & who now is getting even with the world in his own weird, measured way. I wouldn’t have necessarily come to the serial killer conclusion, but would be too uneasy in his presence. Great show, guys. Thanks!

@sashmo8

11 ай бұрын

I agree

@josephconnor2310

11 ай бұрын

Also agree

@renee8813

11 ай бұрын

Narchitect👍😁

If I were just looking at this interview of Rex, with no BP commentary, it would be the interviewer that freaked me out the most. He's kissing every single inch of Rex's a*s, and he's made himself the lowest status he can get.

@DDTSB2525

11 ай бұрын

I think you mean “ STAY-tus” 😂

@extreme-cm8hb

11 ай бұрын

@@DDTSB2525 lmao Gotta love Mark!

I think a lot of Commissioners and city planners have caved for Rex and given him what he wanted just to get out of having to talk to him further

The interviewer’s first language wasn’t English, as a foreigner I imagine his constant laughter covers up the fact that he might not quite understand English that well. So being jovial puts others at ease and probably covers his embarrassment at not understanding every word or meaning.

I also noticed a lisp ( which he probably teased about in school) and his voice is almost cartoonish

This is the kind of guy that corners you at the company Christmas party and drones on endlessly about his position. ❌

I have a question for you guys! Can you please consider doing an episode where each of you shares a couple of stories about favorite moments/career highlights from times where you've utilized your skills to help bring a favorable outcome to a real life situation? I would love that so much. Please and thank you.

@huskboo

11 ай бұрын

Cool idea 😃

@pamelaearl7191

11 ай бұрын

It could be an end-of-the-year episode. Super idea.

Feel a bit bad for the interviewer...he NEVER dreamed that this would get so much scrutiny!

OMG. I had this on in the background and when Rex said “I’ve actually used 1901 old tenement laws…..they never read the administrative section “ I thought it was a video of a different New Yorker who loves bragging about his ability in cutting corners in New York building codes. Had to do a double take

@lisas2538

11 ай бұрын

Same!

@mmedefarge

11 ай бұрын

He reminds me of Trump in many ways. The sniffs seemed to come from him as well.

@MilesMilesCrocodiles

11 ай бұрын

And later on when they talk about using breath as a punctuation when talking at someone. That is all just describing how DT talks

@wendylem1404

11 ай бұрын

100%

@HungryGhost999

11 ай бұрын

Yep 👍

I see a lot of comment about the interviewer, but I just want to say that it’s very important to understand that English isn’t his first language and that factors in when you are in a position with someone that wants to be as dominating as Rex that maybe speaks the language better, so his behavior is more of trying to cover up the discomfort he is feeling, hence a lot of nervous laughter. I know this because English isn’t mg first language and I do the same exact behavior, but when I’m speaking in my native language I’m someone else, full of confidence

@josephconnor2310

11 ай бұрын

Great point.

I dated a serial killer many years ago. I knew he had serious issues, but had no idea he was a murderer.He looked so normal. I consider myself and my children so fortunate.He is in prison and I shudder at the thought of what might have happened and my heart goes out to the women that he killed and their families.

@silvan_gold9343

11 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you and your kids are safe! That must have been so awful to learn, I can't even imagine. Do you mind if I ask who he was?

@insideroutside

11 ай бұрын

Whats his name?

I have waited for this guy to get caught. This is going to be an interesting case.

@CL-we8tn

11 ай бұрын

Who hasn't been looking for lisk. I know they did a good investigation because they have been looking at certain people for years. And this guy is exactly right physically too.

@unfrozencavemanlawyer3950

11 ай бұрын

Omg. I’m becoming such a trial and crime hound. It’s a bit creepy, I feel like a rubbernecker at an accident., but I’m hooked, can’t help myself.

@CL-we8tn

11 ай бұрын

@@unfrozencavemanlawyer3950 oldest interest I'm the world, even biblical, cane and Abel. We have been aware of crime since we could think existentially.

@SoY_7

11 ай бұрын

​@@CL-we8tnamen and Jesus Christ is coming sooner than soon for His children!!!❤😊

@bamakat8531

11 ай бұрын

I bet their will be alot more bodies before all of this is over

I would love to see The Behavior Panel analyze some interviews that were conducted with Leslie Van Houten, the Manson Family member who was recently released from prison. Is she truly repentant and rehabilitated? It would be interesting to get your take on it.

oh my God, the discussion about breath as a conversation flooded my mind with memories of my narcissistic father never giving me a chance to speak. he never stop talking long enough to hear a response not just for me but from anyone. he could drone on for hours almost putting you in a trance. It was one of the most toxic and frustrating things about my father other than the fact that he was a constant know it all, would repeat the same stories over and over and to perfect them.

Respect Scott. 🙏 Your empathy for humanity never ceases to amaze me. I don't know why 😅

@NicolaMaxwell

11 ай бұрын

He is a beautiful soul ❤

@TheBehaviorPanel

11 ай бұрын

Scott is also much more handsomer than Chase is. That’s the comment we get the most. As well, he’s hilarious. Most say “Scott is a hoot and a half”. We happen to believe he’s 2 hoots. And you know what else people say? They say Scott has kind eyes. And you know what? I think so too. We all do. We just think he’s the coolest. (This is one of the other guys on the panel replying. Not Scott.)

@meganpodesta9197

11 ай бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel Are you sure this is not Scott. It sounds like Scott. 😉

@ael5629

11 ай бұрын

@@TheBehaviorPanel The way I just belted out a laugh!!! Yes, Scott is all that and a bag of chips!

@meganpodesta9197

11 ай бұрын

@ael5629 Well as a linguist,you nailed it. Wasn't sure if it was him or one of you pretending 😏 lol

I love it when Scott leaves in the parts he says he’s gonna edit out. 😂❤😂 BTW, that prison Thanksgiving dinner sounds pretty dang good!

@lynleebossard6417

11 ай бұрын

During the Live today when he said he was gonna edit it out, people were live chatting, "Hes not gonna edit it out..."😂😂😂

@maryhayashi4898

11 ай бұрын

@@lynleebossard6417lol! I just love it! 😂😂😂

@TheUnofficialMaker

11 ай бұрын

people are killing to get it

@maryhayashi4898

11 ай бұрын

@@TheUnofficialMaker 😂😂😂

I think the interviewer laughs because he feels something he doesn't understand about this guy. He feels threatened has to laugh to make himself feel better. I noticed the guy sniffs & blows out through his nose a lot, too. It's probably something he does all the time. It is so funny when Scott has something definite. He says "I'll go first on this time". I love that Mark laughs so easily! Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all

Yes Scott, insecure grown men can be very dangerous. They can appear confident, but when alone with a victim, they let their true colors fly! Nobody sees this but the victim, sadly. Even then, sometimes the victim never sees it coming with a shot to the back of the head. You all are helping to shine the spotlight on these evil people. Thank you!

What Greg said about " People who talk at you, not with you", and the breathing Chase pointed out...If you watch people who always talk over you ..they are not really listening to you...they are impatiently waiting to start talking again.

@candice-hw7nb

Ай бұрын

That isn't true with people with adhd, on the spectrum or many cases...buy is a sterotype. People who talk a lot don't listen. Often untrue

I saw a documentary and I seem to remember that the contestant on dating game pulled out of the date cause he creeped her out. Does anybody else remember that?

@kandycepeterson2482

11 ай бұрын

Yes. The contestant, Rodney alcala def is a creep. The girls guy feeling saved her life.

@IDontSuckAtLifeakaJanis3975

11 ай бұрын

@@kandycepeterson2482 I SO wish the Dating Game girl who dodged the bullet that was a potential date with Rodney Alcala would come forward (if she's still with us.) Who knows? He may have had a grandiose plan of getting away with something there, becoming (in)famous for doing something to her. Alternately, giving the illusion of meeting the girl of his dreams on a game show and living happily ever after whilst carrying on with his killings thinking people would have no reason to suspect him

@cynthiagimbel6590

11 ай бұрын

Yes. I remember that. Astute young woman. His answers tho were over the top lecherous as well

@kandycepeterson2482

11 ай бұрын

You know, I have a friend, who is a pro ice dancer, and went to the Olympics and placed 9th, who said his mom is that girl! I will get the story, and meet you back here! Who knows? Maybe she will reply herself! 😔

I had an anatomy instructor who was arrested during class for the murder of his wife... he was from Honduras. True story

That choice of tools summed up his whole “self description”. You can be smart, persuasive, be able to solve problems, but, when it all boils down he chooses to be a hammer - or a tool that ultimately is using force. “It always yeilds excellent results.” He prefers to force his result. Even after all his self bolstering answers, that one answer wrapped him up in a concise 6’ 4” package of negativeness. Unless all you are looking for is someone to steamroll your project through the system at all costs. I thought about it as a job interview question. What tool in your tool belt of experience do you consider your strongest tool? If you work with people, being a hammer does not make you a good team player. You are just a controller. Just my perception.

If you showed me the Rex interview without knowing the details I'd swear the interviewer was the one that was off. I realize he might be acting strangely because he's uncomfortable, as Chase and Mark say, but its so over the top its borderline inappropriate. And he brought a dog to the interview? To an architects office? That's really odd.

@marilynnlewis8400

11 ай бұрын

Eccentric Frenchman, I guess

@Kawiboy

11 ай бұрын

Agreeed ✌️😉

@joanneblack7697

11 ай бұрын

To me, the interviewer is typical NYC, where you see all kinds of people. I do think he catches something is "off" about Rex, and he's being overly friendly as a way of dealing with it. And he's not a professional interviewer, so part of that might also be that he is not used to this role at all.

@legendary2553

11 ай бұрын

The interview was coked up lol

Between the interviewer’s SNIFFING and freaking LAUGHING - I can’t

I’m a New Yorker and I get what Greg is saying! It amazes me how a serial killer /child killer can have a wife and children yet harm another persons child!? I don’t understand that. Why is that?

@iconc1402

11 ай бұрын

They compartmentalise.

@belfiore_18

11 ай бұрын

@@iconc1402 I see. Makes total sense. For an architect he sure lived in a dump! What’s with his wife? She allowed it. Speaks volumes . What a nutcase! NYPD did an amazing job !

@insideroutside

11 ай бұрын

He isn't the first and won't be the last. Btk had a family and boring job too

@belfiore_18

11 ай бұрын

@@insideroutside so true

@belfiore_18

11 ай бұрын

@@insideroutside guess the house wasn’t his focus it was killing and torturing innocent women a man and a child!

Greg, Scott, Mark and Chase: I love the different perspectives you highlight-and the places where they all connect. It’s all very interesting. Learning a lot from you!

I think the interviewer was uncomfortable. Some people will simply laugh when they're not sure how to talk with someone. He seems nervous to me.

So interesting. Love all the guy’s’ perspectives. Chase resonates with me the most because I feel he is extra sensitive to people’s vibes. And he’s very honest, not concerned with ruffling feathers.

When talking about the hammer he gets very excited!

@olgatrilogymartin3143

10 ай бұрын

😅

The interviewer is way weirder than heureman he is laughing hysterically

I need to take a moment to acknowledge and thank each of you for presenting this information as you have. The manner of how this was introduced and the demeanor of the team is so perfectly somber. Please please recognize the horror being revealed as this investigation continues. I appreciate so much how this subject today has been produced and delivered. I've loved you guys from the outset but you have won my absolute respect today. thank you.

The interviewer somehow knows he must stroke his ego. Dry ass answers but meet with roaring laugher.

I’d love to hear from the interviewer for his thoughts knowing what he knows now.

Hubby and I had a doctor like Rex. Full of himself, putting down our prior doctors, telling us how lucky we were to have him. How successful he is, but he worked out of a butthole of a single room practice. Wore same pair of trousers, each time we saw him (thanks to the food stain, slightly visible). Wore a stethoscope around his neck constantly, even when he wasn’t using it, so you would KNOW he was the doctor. He put me on edge immediately and I told hubby I would never see him alone. Benefit of the doubt, we only lasted two more visits and that was enough. Later we found out the $1,500 injections he wanted to give us, our new doc told us were ones we didn’t need, so on top of being an insufferable blow hard, jumped up (Brit for acting better classed than you really are), he was dishonest and money grubbing. When I fired him, he said I would have to pay $1,000 to get a copy of my records. I told him to get knotted (another Britism - you get a visual).

@ael5629

11 ай бұрын

@slconstable I soooooo want to hear more. This story sounds so interesting, I almost thought you were going to say he’s a serial rellik. Thanks.

@slconstable

11 ай бұрын

@@ael5629 I still shudder when I think of Dr. Ego. Total creep. Had my alarm going off.

Hi Greg, Please cover Jimmy Saville. I think viewers would be amazed how he got away with fooling the uk for years xx I would love to hear you all analyse him 👍🏻

@carried98

11 ай бұрын

Savile's body language screams CREEP

I feel like the interviewer is laughing out of nervousness and not because he finds humor in the interviewee or conversation .

I think what’s worth commenting on is the OTHER GUY, as in: he was picking up on something unconsciously about Rex that made him nervous. Then, when Rex talks about “needing to persuade something” the interviewer makes the joke “not someone”. I know that’s an easy joke to go for, but if i were interviewing someone I really liked or who put me at ease, i dont think I would interrupt them as the interviewer to make that joke.

@inuchan74

11 ай бұрын

Yes, he seems very uncomfortable. At first made me think it's because English is not his native language, but he seems very fluent so I wouldn't think that was it.

The breath to control the conversation is to eliminate a chance for someone to interrupt or speak. My SIL used this to excellence. Just as you think you can say something in a break, the breath becomes a continuation of the sentence so no one else can speak. At the 1:1 mark- your discussions are all my ex SIL. The interviewer laughs because he can see that a story could be funny, however the narcissist tells a story but is unable to see humor and tell it with humor?

I'm 35 minutes into this video and the dude has almost bored me into a coma.

@Rg-hc6or

11 ай бұрын

I AM in a coma! 🤣

Even if he turned out to be innocent he's instantly unlikeable.

@lh1125

11 ай бұрын

This dude’s search history alone shows he did it. Go look it up. He liked child porn and rape porn

The thing that was strange to me, was that Rex's first smile was when Antoine said, "but not someone right?". Antoine was trying so hard to get him to smile the whole time.

I am a Queens girl, borders Long Island. This guy doesn't concern me at all. He talks like every man in New York. He is a business dude. Regular guy. Sounds very Trump like. This terrifies me. He takes the L.I.R.R. to work, so do I, and I could see myself strike up a conversation with him easily. Super duper scary!!!!

@mortalclown3812

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. All the people swearing they see his psychopathy in his photo is ..par for KZread comment sections. But I don't think the guy's dog liked him at all..😊

@michaelfetter5413

11 ай бұрын

sounds like the city has a terrible culture if people like this blend in. Makes sense.

@spirit13the1st6

11 ай бұрын

All i can say is when you come close to christ you become an excellent discerner. I know it sounds " high and mighty " and you'll probably have to give up some " worldly " things. I was a little skeptical of these biblical things at first. BUT IT WORKS. STUDY THAT BIBLE WORD FOR WORD COVER TO COVER BACK AGAIN YOU WILL BE AMAZED. THE MORE YOU STUDY. THE MORE YOU GET.

37:00 wow Chase nailed this. This appears to be what's going on with the interviewer. I relate to this interviewer a lot and also interview professionally. He struck me as a highly empathetic person who's tuned in to the subject to the extent that, as Chase puts it, he might unconsciously sense something's awry. I've also spoken to people JUST like this subject, and felt exactly the same way.

I now believe inappropriate laughter could drive a person (me) to murder (that interviewer). Suggestion for future ep: DeAnne Brady and Mark Stidham, owners of sued clothing compnay LuLaRoe. The Netflix documentary "LuLaRich" has footage of their Washington state deposition that you guys would rip into. 😆

As a woman, I can say with my woman's intuition I have felt weird, cautious feelings from certain people including men like this. I will have an instant body response and I will automatically turn my back to them. That's my signal to myself when I know that person is not a good person and hiding behind the mask.

@karolinaeigenmacht5433

11 ай бұрын

Another woman here. Also working solely with intuition. This guy does not FEEL reliable and decent. I agree that he likes to feel superior to others and too easily diminishes others capabilities which is not nice and is jarring. But what about the defensivnes in his body language while he is telling who he is? It is also jarring. Every sentence Has this strange cadence where the voice goes up at the end of the sentence. The whole thing looks as if he is saying that is who I am and there is really nothing else there.... born here, an architect , voice goes up.. Hiding something or at best not sincere

@rachelsvideochannel

11 ай бұрын

@@karolinaeigenmacht5433 Exactly! Have you seen his mugshot?! His "fake mask" is completely off and he looks so evil in his mugshot!

@karolinaeigenmacht5433

11 ай бұрын

His first few sentences even though stating simple facts about himself SOUND like a defence!

Scott describing a person as, "... out in the wild..." never gets old for me! He cracks my sh*t up! 🤣

@TheBehaviorPanel

11 ай бұрын

Dang, he’s funny. And so damned handsome too.

@teresev1435

11 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you, Jessica. But tell me you haven’t used the term “in the wild.” I use it and laugh inside every time I drop it in a conversation. Scott has a couple hand gestures that make me laugh, too. One is what I’d call a maniacal or evil genius exaggerated manipulator, he uses it when he’s happy and there’s a psychopath on deck. 😊 The other one is hard to describe, but it’s where he is indicating “one” with his index finger up, all other fingers making a circle at the palm and his wrist faces away from him, then he swiftly flicks his wrist rotating the “soft underbelly 😜” of his wrist and entire forearm so his palm ends up facing himself and his entire hand rises about 2-5” during this swift motion. This gesture, depending on the context, can mean different things, but I laugh every time he does it because it looks like he’s performing the world’s fastest and shallowest proctological exam. 😂😂😂 It’s an “ah-HA” gesture or “eureka” or maybe even “up yours” in some cultures or circumstances? Regardless, the man makes me laugh!!! …and he’s so damned handsome too ❤😉🤗

That dating game footage has always creeped me out. Rodney's smile was super unnerving & forced. Makes him look like a wolf.

Heuermann reminds me of BTK because they were both petty tyrants. BTK was known for being a stickler for rules and at one point worked in animal control. Both of them seemed to have this fascination with bureaucratic rules and their enforcement.

@KClark-xe3wb

6 ай бұрын

I can definitely see those qualities also. Good catch.

I think Mark really nailed this one. Very insightful. He really brought his A game.