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@hollywiley5668

Жыл бұрын

In the end didn’t they find the children by GPS?? Why didn’t they do it sooner.. not just this case either.

@sheiladodds4186

Жыл бұрын

Tuning in from BC Canada Thank you gentlemen for another great video. I have been a fan for years now. This story is so heartbreaking.

@tams7128

Жыл бұрын

YES! please come to Marbella in Spain, we would love to see you here!

@ANITAACRUZ

Жыл бұрын

I would really love you guys to do the Leticia Stauch case. It would be greatly appreciated. Justice for Gannon! 🕊️

@sparta9472

Жыл бұрын

wondering why you all havent done the Stauch case........... the stepmom is trying to say she has DID but she doesn't shes just a lying malignant narcissist that murdered her stepson

What makes me angry is he went to the police 2 weeks before and stated he was afraid they were after him

Phoenix PD really dropped the ball in this case. If they had arrested Alex and tried him, 3 lives would have been saved 😢

@LinTrueCrimeProject

Жыл бұрын

No doubt about that

@DrWhom

Жыл бұрын

True but did they have concrete evidence at this point?

@CristinaDavalos1127

Жыл бұрын

@@DrWhom they allowed her to keep Charles phone for 3 days which contained some very important evidence against Lori. Charles had warned Phoenix PD numerous times about Lori and her crazy threats and talk. Rhe PD bought her stories and were taken in by her manipulations. Yes, they dropped the ball.

Why did evil stay with Charles for 14 years if Charles was so mean to Tylee.

@crowmedicine3890

Жыл бұрын

​@eboston7591Yeah and bought them a house to live in when they were separated.

“…he doesn’t want a divorce *but I don’t like him….”* No conscience, no empathy, dehumanize the victim.

What's sad is nobody but Charles for saw what she did next. Charles told the police the kids both kids were in danger.

Two things stood out to me in the rewatching of this video: 1. She’s so resentful of Charles’ affection toward JJ. What kind of mother doesn’t love that her husband loves her kid? She reframed it as something bad! 2. The threats from Charles that she wouldn’t specify made her look bad. He was threatening to expose her affair to her side dude’s wife and the church. That’s why she didn’t want to get into it!

she’s a freaking weirdo. Her husband was just killed, even if you were separated. She’s acting like it’s just another day 🤬

@BeegirlsHoneyHouse

Жыл бұрын

You know she’s so exalted and celestial and such…. Pity there’s not a drug to cure this disease.🤬👿

Strange how she states how Charles treated Tylee like crap (and JJ like a king), yet under her and Chin Dumbbell's "care" they both wind up dead, dismembered, and burned. There's your "WHATEVER", Lori... eye roll...

@bellagrace9812

Жыл бұрын

This is before she found out she wouldnt be getting 1 million grom Charles life insurance. I believe she killed Tylee and JJ to spite Charles sister Kay who did get the money from his insurance policy.

As much I love diving into a 2 hr+ video of behavioral analysis, I don't always have the luxury of time. Highlights videos like this are perfect! Thank you!

She went home....and hosted a pool party.....at the home where Charles had died that very same day. Neighbors said there was lots of laughing and music. Yes, a psychopath celebrating the million she THOUGHT she was going to get.

That teddy bear has heard some stuff.

OMG--I just noticed something I think the interviewer missed: When asked what the two men were saying during the fight, she first says "...get off of me Al." Al is her brother who shot him. This indicates Al was attacking Charles not the other way around!!!

She compares him to acting like a 16 yr old when she took his phone, yet he's a 60 yr old professional man who supports her financially even after they've separated! She's creepy.

Even if you’re separated or getting divorced, you’ll be traumatised and emotional if he died. Not only died but your own brother did it. I cry when people I barely know die, whether I like them or not. Her behaviour clearly shows a psychopath with no emotion who showed complete indifference to the death of her husband. She’s not just guilty of premeditating this, but that she’s capable of murdering her own children and feeling nothing.

Thank you, Scott, for doing this!!! It helps👍🏼 I wasn’t the one who asked for it, but it is easier to see what each of you are talking about when you put the behavior on the screen simultaneously with the description of the behavior by each of you when possible ❤🙌🏻👍🏼

@annmoore8696

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 👍

@andyschool

Жыл бұрын

I concur 😂

@Luckyone390

Жыл бұрын

I agree it’s very helpful.

From this interview, my assessment is Lori is childish, immature and still “living” in high school in her head. Total loyalty and admiration seems to be one of her key requirements to be in her life. Anyone who says something or treats her in a way that breaks that facade will suffer, even her children. She blanked Melanie Gibb the minute she left the choir. She cut off everyone who didn’t sing on her page of Goddess, Supergirl, Cheerleader, Beauty Queen, Game Show contestant, Apple of Daddy’s Eye. Her posture usually screams “look at me I’m wonderful” but here, she doesn’t want anyone looking at her too closely - UNTIL she saw that tiny vulnerability in the detective. It immediately gives her confirmation that she can be back in control and relax. It is so so important to her and it began with Mom and Dad. Doesn’t excuse murder but shows how desperate she became in middle age, almost 50 and with her and Charles almost broke at the time, she needed Mr Next for financial support and status within the LDS Church. Images are deceiving. Just my Opinion but I love all of your take on her baseline changes and how dedicated to deception she needed to be at this moment. The best show for understanding the information we all give away all the time.

I absolutely love that you guys now put on screen, the behaviors and the body language you’re talking about so we can see it in real time instead of trying to pick it out during the replays or during the sneak peaks if you will. Absolutely love it. Thank you for doing that love the Behavior Panel always ready for your new videos to come out. You guys are great!

She’s giddy because she still believes she’s the benefactor of her late husband’s $1 million life insurance. She’ll find out within days that he’d changed the claim months before and removed her and made his sister the benefactor.

@krazyk8592

Жыл бұрын

True, and frankly, it's hilarious to hear her anger when she finds out it's not her!

@veeeds

Жыл бұрын

@@krazyk8592 When did you get to hear that? I'm not following the case because she makes me too pissed off.

@pattishea2289

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Giddy so happy. MURDER Money In the bank. Not.

@krazyk8592

Жыл бұрын

@@veeeds There's a recording of her going off about not getting the money, it's out there.

Love the side-by-side video clip playing along side your analytics! I saw yall's original video, which was great, but I'm learning more being able to see the behavior synced with your assessments. So cool!

Lori immediately starts to bad talk the victim, Charles. Before she even answers the question and talks about what happened, she prefaced by bashing him as the crazy person. Completely unnatural and classic murderer behavior. She was smiling cause all she could think about was that $1 million dollar life insurance policy she tried to cash out just 3 days later. Luckily Charles changed the beneficiary to his sister before.

She doesn't seem to be a battered woman or even be afraid. She caused the confusion in the home by taking her husbands phone. Which means she was the aggressor. Well done guys as usual. Psychopath describes her perfectly.

@andyschool

Жыл бұрын

I have 4 kids.. within 7 yrs. Last thing I'd be doing in the morning when even one or two had to be dropped off at school would be messing around w ex's/soon to be ex's/whatever they were then.. but last thing I'd be doing is hanging onto his phone playing games when kids are waiting o start their own day. That part gets me mad as mom. Put the kids first!

The segment about how the interviewer expressed discomfort and then cult mom got happy made me shiver. I was taking business classes and once I had to leave class because of a panic attack. When I apologized later to the lecturer that I have PTSD, her face suddenly lit up with a huge smile and she declared with glee "That's what I do, I help people!" Her abject joy at my discomfort had me so taken aback that I avoided her for the rest of the semester, she was a terrible teacher anyway; but yikes. Never in the twenty years that I had PTSD did anyone ever express glee at my condition.

@lesliekupchanko5001

Жыл бұрын

Very well written and a good point

Chase is 100% right about Lori presenting as a classic psychopath.

I’m not a professional at all. But this woman oozes lies. She’s sneaky and slimy and cold hearted as can be. Lock her up forever. She deserves it.

I've noticed liars often use words like whatever to fill space in areas that should be clear.

When she sat on her legs you can see in her face she was thinking “I just played this lady and now I’m the one in control” She was oozing arrogance

I've never caught it in previous viewings, but when she said "It was probably a bad idea for Tylee to get the bat" I got literal chills all over!! Who else thinks that LORI was the one to somehow introduce the bat, *knowing* that her husband's history as an athlete would make him seem more threatening when holding a baseball bat!! I'm guessing that if Lori didn't get the bat herself, she coerced poor Tylee to get it!

Love the Picture in Picture! That’s such a great way to see what y’all are seeing at the same time ❤

REALLY like the way your now using the video clips to visually reference your comments. As a viewer it enhances the "educational" aspects 100% . Thank you. Brilliant formatting

We need another Lori Vallow video! Two of her friends were interviewed. Melanie and Zulema. They most likely knew what happened to the children. They were all in the same cult.

Scott thank you for that information: All psychopaths are narcissist but all narcissist are not psychopaths.

The thing is, She DID go home and have dinner. She went on to do a whole lot of things. If she was so obvious, I wish they'd seen it. AZ police let her go. There was nothing else to the interview/investigation. She got to go on and murder three more people. So sad

@user-mo9mf7ep9m

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Killed or attempted to have killed a whole van-load of people. If someone has just awakened from a five-year coma, they would be so misled by watching this. No compliments are due to the interviewer or the cops, since Lori and Alex BOTH walked away from Charles' murder. If Lori would have had the sense to send JJ to his grandparents instead of a shallow grave in Chad's back yard, they might very well have gotten away with all of it.

Someone needs to explain why the brother wasn't arrested for murder. It's blatantly obvious to a layman that it was NOT self defense.

@dianealarcon8304

Жыл бұрын

He died 5-mo later. I am still not clear how far AZ LE was into the investigation. Maybe we will learn more during the AZ trial when they try Lori for Charles’ murder. We all want to know, but Alex seems to have texted the least out of the three cohorts. 🙏🏻

@zeph537

Жыл бұрын

@@dianealarcon8304 👍

@zeph537

Жыл бұрын

@@dianealarcon8304 5 months to investigate? If he would have been in jail he would have turned on her

I really appreciate the insert video when each analyst describes the meaning behind the behavior-it's easier to see & understand the portrayed body language. I hope you keep that up.

Then, why didn't you give the phone back??? Maybe, because you wanted to get him so worked up and angry, so as to give you and Alex an excuse to shoot Charles?

@katfromthekong414

Жыл бұрын

I don't think any of that actually happened. I think they just shot him and made up the story.

I really want to hear the answer to the question “Why didn’t you just give him the phone?” They’re getting divorced… in her words they are getting divorced because she wants a divorce…” So what does it matter what’s on the phone? There could be 1,000 photos of another woman in that phone. It wouldn’t matter. This makes zero sense. She states that he’s so mad she is afraid of him because she won’t give him the phone. So why doesn’t she just give him the phone? This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Give him the phone. No one dies. Why does she think this story makes her look like she isn’t a murderer?

@anniehoon

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. She omitted the fact that Charles actually filed for divorce.

@dianealarcon8304

Жыл бұрын

Yes, if you are truly afraid of someone, why be so bold to take their phone. She was not afraid of him, neither was Alex.

I like this format where you show the video that applies to the part you are describing. It helps me to see it as you explain your interpretation. Great video!

"He offered to pay for a house for me and JJ & Tylee...blah blah" when they're separated. Wow, nice guy. He got murdered for it.

@mccauley2023

Жыл бұрын

and what a shame it is huh julie 😢

@julietigermoon9572

Жыл бұрын

So sad for him , not being believed.

Arizona police really botched this case

She takes off her shoes and puts her on the chair like she's on the deck of her beach house in Kauai. What the heck

She used the word “whatever” 16,000 times. Which says to me, I don’t care, it doesn’t matter, I don’t want to think about it.

Her whole demeanor is one of: “Oh I am so small in build and petite, and goofy that I cannot be possibly be responsible for the horendeous crimes they say I did”. It is all nonsense. She is cruel, selfish and cunning.

One thing that we have to remember. You can't judge a book by its cover. Her husband told family, the Police and friends that Lori was going to kill him and that she was telling people that he was a Zombie. Next thing you know, he AND the two little kids in the family are dead. No one believed that pretty, charming Lori could be a monster. She had to gruesomely rack up bodies for people to see the horror that she is. Choose your friends and partners carefully.😢

@MelaB-zt9ek

Жыл бұрын

Who spends time on the art of decoding bodily and verbal cues then comments « you can’t judge a book by its cover » ;)

@camillemayers103

Жыл бұрын

@@MelaB-zt9ek Body and verbal cues are not the "book cover" they are leakage of internal disposition. The "book cover is (for example) "Man, she has pretty hair". I DO understand where the question is coming from😊.

And yet, they let her and her brother walk! Brilliant policing 😡

@julietigermoon9572

Жыл бұрын

Shocking

I got such a strong vibe when she suddenly relaxed, became instantly emboldened and confident in that sitting position, sliding her shoes off. She felt "home free". Very black widowish.

I didn’t think much of the police interview. Poor Charles , they didn’t look into this case at all well. She did just go home for dinner.

That woman sickens me! Lying psychopath! I so hope justice comes to her in a big way 🤬🤬🤬

The verdict is IN! GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES!

Investor: “Tell us what happens” Lori: “Once upon a time”…

Not only did she laugh and act like it was just a regular day, even though her husband is dead, but she went home and thew a pool party that night

@nicksivds

Жыл бұрын

Have mercy😮

@grammajo1889

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard anyone say who was at the pool party. Have they said?

@ano.theart3050

Жыл бұрын

*threw

@justMelissa72

Жыл бұрын

@@ano.theart3050 I meant to say threw lol. I realized it after I sent it.

@justMelissa72

Жыл бұрын

@@grammajo1889 I know that the kids were there,. Colby came over and saw what was going on and left. I believe that the 2 Melanie's were also there. I'm not 💯 on that though

Thanks guys ❤ lets remember, Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy x

Great analysis. I hope you guys do an episode on Chad Daybell's trial.

Thank you for using the video clips to illustrate the behavior you're discussing. I find this very helpful.

Can you do one on her friend Melanie gibb police interview? She is saying they are doing castings but admits she was involved in castings while separating herself from the crazy she believed and never stopped before it hurt the kids at least

@laravonstaden1838

Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@l.c.8656

Жыл бұрын

Yes Melanie Gibbs interview would be interesting

Hello Behavior Friends, this was fascinating. I'm writing to say that although it's just a phone call -- without body language to analyze -- I would simply love to hear a quick analysis of the recent phone call between Lori and her sister Summer that just played at the trial. Why? Because it is a treasure trove of Scott's oft repeated psychopath descriptions. Most amazing is after a phone call where the only responses she can summon while her poor shattered sister wails with grief are "BABY VOICE, BOREDOM & IRRITATION," she suddenly pivots and you can CLEARLY hear her attempt to MIMIC HER SISTER'S SORROW!!! But it's bizarre and flat and frankly TERRIFYING! Thank you for all your work! You're my favorite channel on KZread!

28:30 Chase, your observation about her getting confident when the interviewer shows insecurity was amazing. Great point

Whoever edited this video really has the viewers' learning interest at heart ny putting the expert explanation next to the corresponding actions of the subject. Tq so much for that, for once I feel I can really follow and make full sense of the content.

First of all it was HIS phone and property not hers. It doesn't even occur to her that it sounds planned so he couldn't call for help.

@Kiya-me

Жыл бұрын

That was exactly what I thought

@helenjohnson7583

Жыл бұрын

There was testimony somewhere that LV reached in and took the phone from his car and Charles came inside the the house to get it from her. Yes, he was agitated.

They're giving us a short of reads already done but highlighting great aspects of body language here in this. Reinforcement is great for retaining what we've already been exposed to.

If this Officer was that good..Laurie would have been in cuffs. Imo

I agree with some others, seeing the side-by-side videos is a really big help in spotting the behaviors!

Lori took Charles' phone and took off with it in the kitchen, making him follow her around the kitchen to get it back. This allowed Alex to tackle him, ostensibly "protecting" Lori. It infuriates me that none of the police at the scene or the detective ask Lori 1) why did she take the phone in the first place (remember, she says she kept it because he wanted it back and was mad, so she wanted to see if there was something on there "he didn't want her to see") and 2) why didn't she give the phone back or at least drop it if she was afraid of Charles doing something to her. Sadly she and Alex got away with the crime at the time, and the children were the unwitting pawns of their mother.

@amandalouise9046

Жыл бұрын

yes, it's terrible how they got away with his murder, he was a lovely protective father. She was able to charm everyone around her accompanied with major police incompetence. They are seeking the death penalty so hopefully justice is served.

@argosz8046

Жыл бұрын

@@amandalouise9046 I thought the death penalty had been taken off the table for Lori?

@amandalouise9046

Жыл бұрын

@@argosz8046 it wouldn't surprise me if you are correct

@sarasandrasmith

Жыл бұрын

They allowed Lori and her brother to murder her husband, which gave Lori the feeling that she could murder anyone she felt should die, so she murdered her children! If they had been stopped with the first murder, those kids would still be here.

Oh my goodness guys, please do more on Lori and her peeps. Melanie Gibb’s police interview is a good one, she’s so strange in her interview, like, super chatty and friendly with the cops like they’re her buddies.

I really like this format where you show video during your explanation. It really helps to see it in real time. Thank you for that.

@momchilandonov

Жыл бұрын

It's way better than pauses and manual looking through the replays etc.

@allisonavery735

Жыл бұрын

Yes! It is so nice! I'm sure it's way more work, but the educational value is off the charts.

i love that you show the specific clip when you do your analysis. I love this set up because it's easy to follow what you're pointing out. Thank you. I love you content.

If she was soooo afraid than why didn’t she just give him back his phone? It makes me wonder what her motives were with taking his phone.

@adrianagarza7114

Жыл бұрын

Apparently they planned to kill him that day so she took his phone to lure him back to the house to kill him. Remember they believed he was possessed

@JMSPpope

Жыл бұрын

Apparently an ex girlfriend of Alex Cox called the police department after Charles' death because Alex had told her that he was going to kill Joe Ryan in this manner. Bait him into a fight so he could shoot him in self defense.

@u.synlig

Жыл бұрын

Her motives? To keep Charles from leaving the house; to wind him up; to engineer the fatal ambush; to pry into his communications with with people in her circle.

I would be hysterical and crying if this happened to my ex-husband. I found out at work that my ex had passed away and I lost it. I hadn’t seen him in years and I still was so distraught I could not work. I can’t believe how calm she is after somebody was murdered right in front of her.😊

@krazyk8592

Жыл бұрын

1. She knew it was going to happen. 2. She planned it to happen. 3. She's GLAD it happened. 4. She's not smart enough to realize she should at least FAKE some level of sadness or appropriate behavior, but she isn't even able to do that.

I don’t think the interrogation was that great. She should have asked to see the "threats" Charles supposedly sent her 🙄

@mandychadwick8762

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry. FBI were already into the cloud reading everything including her deleted emails and texts. Slowly slowly catch the monkey

@user-sh8id2ei2q

Жыл бұрын

Why did they allow her to take Charles' phone??? She deleted evidence!

Such a strange women. Just witnessed husband being murdered. The guy you once loved. The guy who paid your way for 14yrs. The he guy who adopted a baby with you. Even if I was no longer in love I would be throwing up. Shaking uncontrollably. Crying nonstop.

Thank you guys, for showing the split visuals while discussing the behavior of Lori Dumbell. 👿Much appreciated!

Leticia Stauch has shown quite a few of the same characteristics, as Lori. Hoping Stauch will be analyzed some day.

@tams7128

Жыл бұрын

i think its coming, they just recently released her interrogation video, sure its blurry but that's never been an issue before. lets go

I think the interview with her brother Alex and daughter Tylee would be interesting to do too. I'm so happy that you finally looked into this case. The trial is not televised but I sure would like to be able to observe her during the trial.

CHARLES was horrible to Tylee??? That's a bit rich 😮

I think the place where Lori relaxed is when the interviewer said “my second RIDICULOUS question I need to ask”. She came down to Loris teenaged mindless vocabulary style and she felt like she was safe with a fellow dingbat. No way she could get in trouble then…

she said "hit me in the bat with the head" NOT "hit me in the head with the bat" lol

I had a friend who delighted in seeing me upset.... in fact, she would go for the jugular as soon as she saw a tear. Needless to say, I am no longer friends with this Covert Narcissist!

I love when y'all show clips a few times over and over as you're describing the behavior. Thank you!

@allisonavery735

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree!! I love these ones for the awesome educational value. So much easier to see what you're talking about. We appreciate all the extra effort that surely goes into all that editing!

She has aged 20 years since this video. Like the way you guys analyze. Just terrible all the victims on their watch 😢 RIP & condolences to their families. 🙏🏻✝️❤️

“He was horrible to Tyley.” Well, you sent that poor girl back into the house to walk past his dead body, you psycho.

Her modified turtling is looney! Chase, two things are missing here; anger and sorrow! Her husband has just been shot a couple of hours before the interview and she acts as if she's talking to a new friend. May she never see daylight outside of prison again!

Lori keeps saying whatever but Leticia says whatever AND "yada yada" they are both monsters

If someone was constantly threatening me, I'm sure I'd remember at least one of those threats. Ug. Psycho.

@Jen-cc9xk

Жыл бұрын

Well yeah, because threats are not usually random and assorted. The threatener has a specific bee in their bonnet. Like money, or custody, or jealousy. That was an obvious one for the interviewer to follow up, and she didn't. Her whole demeanour is of someone just going through the motions to satisfy procedure. They really should have reeled them all in again the next day for more questions, and looked up Charles's history in the meantime. I wonder how many other crimes go undetected by them?

@mrs.magiceyes3138

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Not a single threat could be named!

The Behavioral Panel: Please, please, PLEASE do another one on Lori Vallow! Would love for you guys to even do one on her little speech at trial! I loved this video! This woman is truly, truly a psychopath and she makes my blood boil over! Would love for you to go even more depth on this interview. Can’t wait for trial on this murder of hers in Arizona. Love the original and love this recap of it!

@gracejones2831

7 ай бұрын

her speech!! OMG what could they possibly say about that!

Why did she take his phone to begin with? Why was she trying to keep his phone away from him? What a screwball. She was doing whatever she could to antagonize and provoke him.

@jujubean54ify

Жыл бұрын

She used it and pretended to BE him, to sow discord and alienate her parents and siblings as to Charles’s “true nature”.

@axemangang1584

Жыл бұрын

She wanted to see who Charles was speaking to, she was warned of the intervention.

"did you hear the shot?" Just learned today that Alex fired 4 shots into Charles' chest. If these interrogators are as sophisticated as you suggest, they would never have ruled Charles' death as a self defence accident. NOTHING about that murder suggested self defence.

I cannot wait for you all to do Leticia Stauch! Buckle up! It was amazing how much I noticed that you had taught me! She protects her organs, almost bends in half at one point. Calls the person "sir" and so much more, I can't wait!

Every time I see her face, it reminds me to smile so my mouth doesn't turn upside down. ...You can tell how tight-lipped she's been for the last several years. It really shows in her face in her jail house photos as opposed to images of her before she was in custody.

They knew Charles was shot while lying on the floor and yet they walked away scot-free. After he had told them he felt she might try and kill him. They might have been able to stop jj and tylees murders tbh and they blew it. Crazy.

I'd love to see more "close up" additions like this one.

@TheBehaviorPanel

Жыл бұрын

Ok then. We’ll do more. 🙂

Watch with the sound off, initially. It helps tremendously to see what the guys are talking about! Without the distraction of sound, the body language is SO much more apparent.

This is a great format!! It allows us to follow things better rather than remember what you all say when you replay it!! Love this!!

She sounds like an oblivious teenager

Given all the documented arrogance she's shown to her friends and family about her "spiritual" superiority, playing the innocent bystander here oozes that psychopath vibe. One can only imagine the meeting among the involved parties that decided killing the kids was a viable plan. Did Chad's kids ever think they were next?

@argosz8046

Жыл бұрын

I was listening to a podcast with an ex-member of Avow who initially thought Chad was genuine. She knew Tammy and the children and said that both Tammy and the five children had been declared zombies (although they didn't know that). With all the other spousal and child deaths and evidence that other members "loved ones" were also potential targets, I think Tammy's children may well have been fair game, if they started disbelieving their fathers' line of BS after her death.

Tylee's dad Joseph Ryan also died of a " heart attack" due to "natural causes". At some time prior to that , Alex Cox (Lori's brother) had attacked Mr. Ryan with a stun gun directly to the heart. Mr Ryan's sister has been wanting his death re-investigated for years now. Lori had also claimed that he had committed SA on Tylee during the very contentious divorce, absolutely no evidence of this was ever found. There is an interesting YT video interview with Mr. Ryan's former lawyer. Given that so many people around Lori and Alex died of "heart attacks" that looked naturally caused, it wouldn't be far-fetched to imagine that perhaps Alex discovered a means to induce them with something that would ordinarily go undetected. Such means are possible.

Another thing I noticed - she pops off her shoes and pulls her feet up and THEN asks in a half laugh/half whisper “is it okay if I sit up like thi…” she doesn’t even finish it. She asks for consent…AFTER she’s already done it. Because she now feels so smug that she knows the interviewer won’t oppose her.

@lesliekupchanko5001

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Melanie was like that as well. They love the attention and think they are so cute.

It troubles me that her husband has just died and she doesn’t shift her thinking. She still doubles down that she doesn’t like him and she put up with him and he was a horrible person. I find that really abnormal for someone who has just lost someone so close to her.

The hardest body language analyst would be Laticia Strock. She only allows one interview with her back to the camera, does a video talking to her stepson who has been burned by a candle fire, without being in the frame. There are interrogation videos, but they aren't good quality videos, and her actions in the courtroom during the trial. There are a lot of long audios of her phone calls to, her then husband, recorded by the FBI. Where she screeches every time he questions her ever changing stories. They are long videos, but I watch every day of the proceedings.

Her saying it's aways about JJ, makes her sound resentful that's he needs do much care. Her lack of emotion of the deaths of her husband and children are chilling.

@pollywells3603

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Yes, resentful.....and then she said to her friend in Hawaii..” I'm done with JJ”......😳 Who says that about their child? He is not a pet, you've given up and rehomed...... I know the Death Penalty is off the table for this trial but she still has to go to trial in Arizona....🤞

@MarcRajotte-hv8hw

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this is so so good of you to notice and share this. I FULLY AGREE with your take.

No tears? I would be crying if anyone, even a stranger just died….