GREAT PLAYERS!!! This year had Venus, Serena, Hingis, Davenport, Seles, Graf, Sanchez Vicario, Pierce, and Capriati.

@juancruzcastrobarrera4328

3 жыл бұрын

Cómo quisiera volver a verlas jugar en un campeonato jaja sería genial!!!

Very classy with the double kiss with Graf. I love both of them. WOW! 😍 😘

What I liked most is, when the match was over both players (one all time winner & other rising champion) greeted and appreciated each other's game. Very sporty.

Steffi, so elegant and very gracious. Serena just remarkably talented. Very pleased to watch both players. Serena did put on a really good game at that age against another great player. It was a fun match to watch. Miss games like this.

SERENA was on fire. She's still playing amazing 17 years later. That's how she was playing this year when she won Wimbledon.

@DeepSeas..

7 жыл бұрын

She played significantly better than this at Wimbledon

THis is just great tennis, both have power and athleticism for days, but the variety, the aggression, it's just brilliant!

Serena was just a baby then! Awww I love watching these old videos! Historic moments!

I'm a huge, huge fan of Steffi Graf, but Serena was/is something out of this world. Great match!

@alexragland1945

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin well apparently not 23 😉

@alexragland1945

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin the 23 grand slams that Serena has lol ONLY Serena

@alexragland1945

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin does anybody else have 23 grand slams on the women's tour in the open era? Ooh ok so that would be a record . I swear all you do is hate on Serena and try to discredit her do you ever get tired . No matter what you say and no matter what you do you can't ever ever take what Serena has done in tennis so jus be quiet cuz you look and sound dumb!

@alexragland1945

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin Great for her I like kerber. Your point? Lol trollin

@alexragland1945

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin like i said use any excuse but stay mad as you think about all 23 slams Serena has that ain't goin nowhere 🤣🤣

Serena Williams and Steffi Graf are not just the two best female athletes in tennis history but women's sports period. This match was beautiful to watch in 1999 and even better now. The stoic, methodical grace of Steffi against the aggresive, emotional power of Serena....wish these two played one another in their prime, it would've been historic!

What a beautiful match! So much excitement, and the graceful exit..just awesome! Graf will always be top class!

Steffi Graf truly is Serena's only competition my god Steffi Graf Game was superb all of those ground strokes were Amazing . Steffi Graf game was really good.

@elmoblatch9787

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she was. Remember, this was at the END of her career. In 1990, she won all four slams and the gold medal. She was a tennis goddess.

@georgemavrides3434

8 жыл бұрын

True, and Steffi never had to rely on roids to beat her opponents.

@NewYork4ever25

8 жыл бұрын

+Elmo Blatch end of her career? Give credit where is due and stop making excuses...she was just 30 playing a 17 yr old for God sake...

@juju1305

7 жыл бұрын

+George Mavrides she merely relied on a retarded man who stabbed the better player so that she could get back to #1.

@TheSportslover2010

6 жыл бұрын

Elmo Blatch- Steffi DID NOT win all 4 Grand Slams in 1990. Seles won the French Open that year. Navratilova won Wimbledon that year.

It shows how great of a tennis player Graf was, the fact that she was in the latter part of her career and took the match that far to one of the big black Williams beasts is formidable,

@magnetmac1

6 жыл бұрын

Graf was 29 at the time. At that same age Serena was just getting started...lol! - now that's formidable!!!

two of my favorite female tennis players of all time! what a game!!!!

Serena so great, i miss Stefi. these rallies and highlights were awesome watch....these gals had ALL the shots in their game. touch and power.

Now 2019. TWENTY YEARS later and Serena Williams is still contesting Grand Slams. The Undisputed GOAT.

Theres no better than the other. Both are Icons. The bestest of each era.

THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD.

@tyrelljunior2011

7 жыл бұрын

janjr165 *Best Comment*

@pablitol5818

6 жыл бұрын

Totally

@chrato74

6 жыл бұрын

Courtesy of Gunther Parche.

@victorlupas4875

6 жыл бұрын

just like fed vs sampras in atp

@dennisjacks7923

5 жыл бұрын

NO...not really. Evert clobbered her 6-0.6-2 at the US Open 4th round 1989.

That fire in Serena has always been there. The greatest.

I'm a big tennis fan, been watching since the early 80's. Personally, these two women are the best ever and also happen to be my two favorite female tennis players of all time. The war of attrition in this classic match is extraordinary, U will never see a more athletic female tennis match again like this. The immovable object vs the unstoppable force. At the time Steffi a seasoned accomplished champion and Serena a young hungry phenom, U couldn't ask for a better match including a 12 year difference in age makes it a once in a lifetime classic, wish I was there watching the two G.O.A.T.'s.

What a great match! Nice to see these two playing to each other!

Steffi is amazing as a champion and in defeat! I love her no matter what! I miss her so much!

first of all graf and williams are from,a different era. they are both good and i am proud of both.

@dalinaddei

6 жыл бұрын

Are you their Father? XD

@dianenorman3209

5 жыл бұрын

Either way it goes those are two good resumes.

@bear-ms3ms

5 жыл бұрын

@1 Garoto 2 Mundos And obiouvsly world record guiness of stabber fans, forever and ever. Proud and honour, it'not true?! :-D :-D :-D

@T9RX3

5 жыл бұрын

@samuel moore nope, The Golden Slam is done in ONE calendar year. Serena could not do what Graf did because Graf handled pressure better than Serena did. It is much more difficult to win it all in ONE calendar year. And Steffi Graf did it. Serena did not.

@T9RX3

5 жыл бұрын

@1 Garoto 2 Mundos well said. You are correct.

its amazing how only maybe 1% of the commenters here are able to simply appreciate two of the greatest tennis players instead of all the "whos the best everrrr" bickering. what is this, kindergarden?

@bear-ms3ms

5 жыл бұрын

You too deep in your heart know: who was indisputed number 1 in '91-'92 before gunter? Who was indisputed most winning female tennis player under 20Y of history? Who, stef?Super Mega LOL! Who have world guiness record of stabber fans forever and ever? You know! Go in peace, sad furious kid :-D :-D :-D

@JCole-fg3rr

5 жыл бұрын

Illya Kuryakin nobody is insecure but Serena is the greatest.

@T9RX3

5 жыл бұрын

It is "kindergarten" zorglub667. You should not judge others until you first pass the basics.

@azycan5678

5 жыл бұрын

Both legends from to different eras reminds you of the Sampras and federer match at wimbeldon

5 жыл бұрын

@@JCole-fg3rr lol! SW is a fraud! Only a coward threatens lineswomen! Only a coward hides in a panic room!

I was actually in the crowd in Sydney in 99 as a 19yo when Steffi beat both Williams sisters, that was a treat looking back

@maximilianasmr7202

5 жыл бұрын

It's me 23 grand slams later ..

@melvaburke2608

5 жыл бұрын

@@maximilianasmr7202 Thank You Maximillian 👏 "23" Indeed! 😎

@pedro.s1742

4 жыл бұрын

Arantxa sanchez vicario also beat both williams sisters in 1998

@jigsterify

Жыл бұрын

@@maximilianasmr7202teffi chose to retire at 30 with 22, Serena had to plod on to near 40 to get 1 past her, and try as she might will now never pass Margaret Court at 24, too bad lol

My 2 favorite female tennis players of all time!😊

Steffi Graf what a Legend.

Ha llovido mucho desde entonces,pero vaya partido entre las mejores de la historia del tenis,junto a Monica Seles .

Maybe some players won more tournaments or GS, but the style of Steffi Graf never will be reached, she is not moaning, has great footwork and legs, single handed backhand and the best forehand ever. It is just nicer to watch her playing than Serena or Monica.

such a great match between two champions! you could really tell Serena respected Steffi, and that this match was meaningful to her. no wonder Serena has stated numerous times that Steffi was her favorite player of all time.

@keishawnlight

8 жыл бұрын

Besides Venus :)

@diegosotomiranda4107

3 жыл бұрын

@christian Williams tbh that happened with Novak Djokovic too, since he got into the scene fighting the Federer/Nadal donimance, thera has been a bias against him conpared to fedal, even Murray with wayy less archievements was more phraised than him for one period

@peterb6512

3 жыл бұрын

You are delusional. There is so many videos on KZread of Serena talking about who was her idol and she never mentioned Graf.

one of the greatest matches ever

@peterhammer6915

4 жыл бұрын

whaaattt? Steffi played very poorly in the third set and Serena also has played a lot better games

It must have been quite a shock for Stefi to absolutely crush a forehand at Serena, and often see it coming back at an even faster speed. I so wish Stefi was younger at this stage of her career -- such epic matches they would have had.

Serena is playing SO MUCH BETTER in this game than she has played in this last decade of 2010s into 2020s. So many more unforced errors these days compared to this match!? It's like she was at the top back in 1999.

@magnetmac1

Жыл бұрын

Serena was a top-10 player in 1999. As a matter of fact, she ended the year ranked no.4.

Graf had one of the best forehands I'd ever seen.

@andrewmark2783

5 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin Well I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I think Ana Ivanovic had the best forehand ever. It's just a shame that it came with a player who had major confidence issues (which consequently led to a terrible serve and a weak, predictable backhand). But the technique on her forehand was as close to perfect as you'll ever see, it was Federer level of good.

@rushigolande2253

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Mark exactly

@trommelbiel

5 жыл бұрын

A great tennis player should be an allrounder. If all Serena had was a good forehand nobody would talk about her.

@vincenzodimartino7327

4 жыл бұрын

She had the best forehand ever

@trommelbiel

4 жыл бұрын

@@vincenzodimartino7327martino: The reason we still talk about Steffi is that a better player has emerged who happens to be black. And your white supremacist mentality would not accept the truth that Steffi's forehand or backhand (which she did not have) is no match for Serena's all-round talent. Slavery lasted 400 years in the US because of people like you. When was the last time you heard about how Good Pete Sampras' forehand or backhand' was? Because he has been dethroned by the likes of Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic and Rafel Nadal. Nobody talks about the youngest Wimbledon Gradslam Champion Boris Becker because his talents are no match for those of Roger, Nadal and Djokovic who happen to be whites. You are comparing a champion like Steffi who played against sleepy players like Conchita Martinez, Arancha Sanchez Vicario etc, against a player who has won 23 grand slams and has won Olympic medals and serves better than some male tennis players. You would not be making this comparison if Serena was any other race except black. Serena will not apologize for her God-given Melanin and I will not apologize for mine. But you should be ashamed for still being so racist and short-sighted in 2019. I will not be bleaching my skin any time soon and Serena will not be bleaching hers.

21 grand slam ...one more slam....I can feel it going to 22 and more...live your games serena.you are my best player no matter what..you acheieved it all..what an inspiration. God bless u more

@jopogi26

5 жыл бұрын

If Steffi continued to play in her 30s , I'm sure she will have more championships crown . Steffi paved an era of more physical type of Tennis . She is well disciplined and respectable . Both great but STEFFI IS STILL THE GOAT FOR WOMEN for me .

@TheSportslover2010

5 жыл бұрын

@@jopogi26 - I doubt it. Serena and Venus has gotten better and better and they dominated the WTA. Davenport, Capriati, Mauresmo, Sharapova and Henin also stepped up. Graf wouldn't stand a chance.

@awsetyo1797

2 жыл бұрын

@joseph castillo if seles not stabbed steffi gs titles will decrease maybe 19

Serena is an inspiration, a champion, a legend and the greatest player in the history of tennis. When she at her best she can defeat easily any top player in the world.

@carrerau7138

Жыл бұрын

A perfect description of the great Steffi.

@ToOpen6seven

Жыл бұрын

@@carrerau7138 A great description of them both 🙂

Woman's tennis in that era was more fun watching than the men's game!

Realize something these two legends combined have 45 Grand Slam singles tiles.😮👏👍😊

@Ineddiblehulk

3 жыл бұрын

As a MASSIVE Graf fan I’m disappointed it’s not 46 or 47. Want Serena to wipe court from the record books.

The most important comment I can make 2 all of the Serena haters out there is even Graf, along with Chris & Martina have said Serena Williams is the Best female tennis player in History. Now, if Chris, Martina & Steffi have All said Serena is the Best then that's all I need 2 believe she is the Best. Steffi also said she believes Serena will tie & eventually pass her 22 majors record in the Open era. Those 3 legends should quiet all of the Serena haters but I'm sure Hate will keep their fire burning & good, cause as long as Serena keeps winning my fire 2 keep writing positive Serena comments will also continue.

@EXDRA100

9 жыл бұрын

Does the WTA routinely test Williams for steroids/etc?

@stevenmichael4990

9 жыл бұрын

***** Just for you & your Hateful soul, the next time I read or watch anything where Steffi Graf says what I wrote she said, I will save the link for you. Since you are a non-believer & everybody is "lying" cause your all time favorite girl, Steffi Graf, could possibly have said somebody except herself is the Best. What the Hell is wrong with you? Why is it SO IMPORTANT for you that Steffi Graf is the GOAT? Well, she is one of the Best, so you can rest your sick little head & sleep well. And I have no reason to lie, waste my time & post a made up comment. I think Steffi, Serena, Martina & Chris are all GOATs.

@aaron1983

6 жыл бұрын

Steven Michael Evert is the queen of tennis efficiency if GOAT was decided on pure efficiency of stats, Chris Evert would be GOAT.

@mannail888

6 жыл бұрын

Callas also said Domingo was the greatest ever.

@RageCage1701

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is Serena isn't a female. And as a man, she's an at-best mediocre player.

In Cannes, France in 1926- Legendary tennis players Lenglen and Wills played an exhibition tornament,both made it to the final it was a match that was packed to capacity,Lenglen the veteran who had dominated the 20s and Wimbledon,her balletic movement and talent made her a superstar won in two tight sets beating newcomer Wills who would go on to rule the 30s,it would be the only time they played each other,it was clearly an example of an upcoming changing of the guards. I've thought of this match between Steffi and Serena as having that type of significance. It showed one Champion near the end and another at the beginning both playing a great match showing toughness and skill.

Steffi accomplished A LOT more in her 16 years of playing. Serena played for 27 years and has fewer overall titles and just one more grand slam. Stats don't lie so GOAT goes to Steffi!

Lol that kiss at the net was Graf passing on the GOAT to Serena lol

@JordanjamesX

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonathan “The Artist Jw” Wimbush I think you are right Graf rarely kissed an opponent after losing she knew Serena was special even at age 17.

@stevennieves8308

7 жыл бұрын

Steffi Graf started kissing her opponents later as she got older & wiser. As Steffi got older, you could see she was more respectful towards her opponents & the game. Something Steffi wasn't when she was younger.

@Ineddiblehulk

6 жыл бұрын

Damn straight. Game recognises game. First time Graf would've ever genuinely thought this person may be better than me...

@tlovesgreens8244

6 жыл бұрын

that was funny as hell

@cormorant_on_arock7934

6 жыл бұрын

ignoramus, that was called grace and class, and it is what Graf and many other European players do every match. I'm sure you know that; but what you may not understand is the beautiful virtue required to have that kind of graciousness.

Love how classy Steffi went in for the double Kiss of Serena!😊😍

@kddlrp

4 жыл бұрын

Illya Kuryakin lol. To you

i wish they had more matches bc this was so good

Steffi won her last major a lil later in the year(The French) & Serena won her 1st(U.S. Open. #irony

@janjr165

8 жыл бұрын

The changing of the guard: 1999

@cartoon4191

7 жыл бұрын

Davenport , Venus & Capriati combine won 10 Grand Slams after Graf Retirement...Queen Serena start dominate starting from 2002

@willybeama1

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn’t realize that but you’re right!

@peterhammer6915

4 жыл бұрын

@Gowri Shankar U.V clearly the better player? Take your medicine pal. The most important thing in sports is the head.

@oliviaaybar4602

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin beat Monica Seles? Way, she was forced to retire after being stabbed by a crazy Graf fan. Monica Seles was a young gun, driving Graf to depression for her inability to beat her before the stabbing. Serena's game and Seles are very similar.

I love this. This match has now become one between two tennis legends. I miss Steffi's evil slice backhand, clockwork serve and power forehand. Even in this video you can see Serena's beautiful serve consistent since day 1. Classic match.

Para mi Steffi Graf, la mejor jugadora de todos los tiempos y en algo que no la podrán igualar jamás en que siempre se comportó como roda una dama.

@damianabel9405

Жыл бұрын

Están muy igualadas, pero la mejor Serena le gana a la mejor Steffi Graf

20 years later Serena is STILL in tennis. Who would've thought? But my guess is her days in tennis may be numbered. Caring for her infant daughter and trying to win titles are just too much for someone approaching 40.

Stefi is an insane athlete.

Now Serena has 23 major titles

@Wow_sheng_yi_pian

7 жыл бұрын

It seems that it's so hard for Steffi to hit even a winner under Serena's fire, not to mention she was only 17 then. No wonder Serena can become the greatest tennis player in history! And anyway, Steffi needs to thank Seles' attacker!

The top two women to ever play the game. I would have loved to see Serena take on Steffi while both were on the peak of their careers. That would be an unbelievable match to behold.

@janjr165

8 жыл бұрын

This was that match. :)

@r.locksmith9610

8 жыл бұрын

Two greatest player of all time. No doubt. No one will surpass them.

@maksessultz2871

8 жыл бұрын

Serenas game is far much better than Steff when both is at their prime. Serena`s serves improve so much over the years and that alone would be enough for Serena to beat Steffi 6 nil 6 one very often.

@stevennieves8308

7 жыл бұрын

Nicklas4500 I kinda agree with you. Navratilova, winning a ton of titles in singles & doubles, was my original 1st pick as the best all around women's tennis player & since she had a 9 to 9 head to head record vs Steffi Graf, who is almost 13 yrs younger than her kinda says it all about Martina Navratilova, who really should be considered the GOAT of women's tennis. But that was before I saw Serena Williams. Now I don't think Martina Navratilova or Steffi Graf would have been able to consistently beat a healthy & fit Serena Williams but I do think Navratilova & Graf would have competed well vs Serena Williams. Overall after say 10-20 matches vs Serena Williams, I think Martina Navratilova & Steffi Graf would have won at least a third or maybe even close to half of their matches vs Serena. But in the end, with Serena's overall game, strength, athleticism & her great serve, I think a healthy/fit Serena Williams would've come out on top of both of her head to head matches vs Martina Navratilova & Steffi Graf, who I also consider to be 2 of the GOATs of women's tennis along with Serena Williams, Chris Evert & Margaret Court. But, of course, that's just my opinion.

@bear-ms3ms

5 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin Great? Why great? She never played winners with backhand, hardly ever with volley and service. Why insulting? venus plays winners with forehand, backhand and service. Do you have television or internet in your country?

Dwie wielkie gwiazdy tenisa ! Steffi była nr 1..a potem nastała wspaniała era gry w tenisa Sereny ! NR 1 na zawsze ! Forever ! 🎈🎾🎈🎾🎈🎾🎈💖⚘💖⚘💖⚘🇵🇱

Why can't people just enjoy watching the two best womans tennis players of all time? I don't get the negative comments.

@stevennieves8308

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Why can't some people? Because Serena Williams is a Black woman that's why. If Serena was White, all those people that keep saying Graf is better would easily say Serena Williams is better than Graf. Think about it.

Steffi Graf won her first title on the WTA tour in 1986. So 13 years before this finale in 1999. She had just returned to the tour in April 1998 after 10 months of not playing due to knee surgery (1997). Graf in 1999 was far from her peak form. I believe she was #7 in the world before the tournament of Indian Wells started. I want to remind everyone that Steffi wasn't ranked anymore when she returned to tennis in spring 1998. However, 1999 was a great year for Steffi. She was the most consistent GS tournament player: QF at the AO, she won the French Open and reached the final in Wimbledon. I am 100% certain that she could have reached the semis at the USO and would have taken over world #1 from Hingis or Davenport at that point. She was so close.

I never thought Graf could be this great. She comes from the previous era where power tennis hasn't evolved. But an experienced, full-of-techniques, and moving-so-well Graf can put up a good fight against a powerful, little-technique, inexperienced, raw-talent-with-instinct​, Serena. Imagine Graf in today era, she would be right in the top 5 for sure.

@myfriend280

4 жыл бұрын

takhilah1 Are you in the 5th grade ?

Wow. Two legends. 😍😍😍😍 It really is incredible when they get into a forehand to forehand rally. 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

Serena Williams...rompiendo esquemas...predestinada a ser la mejor tennista mujer en la historia!!!!

To me this match has the same historical magnitude as the Federer vs. Sampras Wimbledon 2001 match. At the time when both matches where played Sampras and Graf where considered THE G.O.A.T. after the match was over the old generation lost to the new generation! And now 15 years later or so Federer and Serena are considered THE G.O.A.T.

@rayncar

5 жыл бұрын

Wonderfully said

@jonathanchen1026

5 жыл бұрын

In other words, Tsitsipas and Osaka are our future GOATs?

@Raydoffa

5 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanchen1026 Most likely, yes. But Serena and Roger are not done yet!

@JCole-fg3rr

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Chen no because Serena isn’t on a decline. Nor has Serena lost at her best.

@jonathanchen1026

5 жыл бұрын

@@JCole-fg3rr I mean you could say the same about Federer, only time will tell if those key matches were the changing of the guard

It's very interesting to see how the greats handle their tough matches at the twilight of their careers vs at their height of their careers. I can see how the greats' weaknesses affect their matches. I wished Graf would have developed a more all around game. That's one of the reasons why Seles' tragedy was awful for everyone. Graf would have developed a stronger game as well as Seles, if Seles did not leave the game for two years. What a difference two years make! Williams is one of the greatest if not the greatest singles player so far. She has the all around game as well as her athletic ability. Hingis' lack of athletic ability really held her back in her tough matches. I have a new found appreciation for Navratilova's game. Her improvements and longevity have made her the greatest singles/doubles/and mixed doubles female player. If Williams didn't have her injuries or didn't have that ridiculous rule of only playing with her sister, she could have won more and be more consistent in her wins. "Williams is also one of only two players in the Open Era to have won each major three or more times." Most consecutive wins in grand slams singles titles is 2; so far, has never won any grand slam singles title 3 times in a row. Graf being the other player, is the only player to win each major at least 4 times. Williams is the strongest singles player when playing well, while Graf is the greatest consistent singles player? I can't wait for Serena to break Margaret Court's record of 24 Grand Slam Singles victories. Serena's best chance might be Wimbeldon as the surface is softer, and is fast. Easier on the feet, yet fast to reward her for her big shots.

@88feji

4 жыл бұрын

I think Navratilova is undoubtedly the greatest female tennis player ever if you go beyond just counting grand slams ... Firstly, her career singles titles far outstrips Graf by 167 to 107 (Serena only has 70+). Secondly she accumulated 18 singles slams despite also participating in the doubles events, often winning both ... in contrast, Graf and Serena mostly concerntrate on their singes event to avoid exhaustion. ... imagine how many singles Navra could have won if she had conserved her energy on it .. Thirdly, Navra had a very strong rival in Chris Evert who also got 18 slams ... in contrast, Graf's main rival Seles was cut short due to Seles's stabbing.. and Serena did not have any big rival able to consistently challenge for grand slams like herself ... As for Margaret Court's 24 slams, she greatly benefited from competing in the non-open era for more than half of her slam count ... in the non-open era, she only had to compete with the non-professional players as the ones who play full time tennis are barred from competing ... so basically her 24 slams should not even be a target for Serena to beat ... In all, Martina is the true goat among them ...

@bhimsentkandulna3101

4 жыл бұрын

Three of them are the best.stefi ,s appearance, back hand,and service is very very winning point. Navratilova is intelligent player. Her drop short is winning point. Serena is innovative player. She is best known for her ace service .speed return, corner,base line,end line ,and net returns are amazing. Mostly she plays to wine. TyloreTownsend is also future best player. Anastasia,peko,are the best. Sofia kennin, Nomi, Muguruza,Halep,Andrucuss these are best player for ever.

@grantgoffin4774

4 жыл бұрын

@@88feji No way is Martina the GOAT. Martina is in fact overrated if anything, and despite her being overrated almost nobody calls her the GOAT these days, with most picking Serena or Graf (probably more Serena at this point). People say all 4 slams werent fully valued then and that is why she has fewer slams, but in reality she is lucky for that since if all 4 slams were fully valued Evert would have about 24 slams and Navratilova only about 19, and Martina wouldn't even be seen as best in her own era anymore. Also if you take away Evert, Martina still has only 21 or 22 slams and now she has the biggest joke field in tennis history as the field in 82-87 outside of Evert being there was the biggest joke ever. Who would her biggest rival be now all those years she was winning almost all her slams- Shriver, LOL!!! And people make fun of Graf for having Sanchez as her biggest rival for a few years. So Martina is fucking lucky both that Evert was there, and also that all 4 slams weren't fully valued back then. Again Evert is the one really hurt by this, not Martina, yet overrated Martina is the one always given credit for it not underrated Chris. Without Martina, Chris has something like 28 slams, she was hurt far more by Martina than Martina by Chris. Her records at 3 of the 4 slams are significantly below all other major greats, only at Wimbledon is she ahead. And all players back then when won more tournaments so nobody cares about that. Every all time great, man or women back then, won over 150 tournaments. Even a non great like Wade won 105 singles tournaments. There were many tournaments with 2 or 3 rounds back then. Court has the most singles tournaments at 199, many more than Martina's 167 by the way. Lastly your saying Serena only concentrates on singles is pretty much a bullshit statement considering she has around 20 doubles/mixed doubles slams. Yes she plays less doubles than Martina, Court, and King, but considering doubles is seen as trivial these days she deserves credit for playing it and winning in it as much as she does. I guarantee you Martina would not be playing even half as much doubles if she were in her prime today instead of then either, although you are obviously a biased Martina fanboy so no doubt will deny that, but nearly everyone else would agree with me when they think about it. And Serena would probably play even more doubles and win even more at doubles if she didn't have the silly personal rule to only play with her sister as she feels it would be betraying her sister to play with someone else. She wouldn't even play doubles with her bff Wozniacki for that reason. Your assessment on Court is also off. The reason Court's slam record is degraded and most don't call her GOAT has nothing to do with the Open Era, it has to do with the Australian Open situation then. It was not well attended or viewed as a real slam and 11 of her 24 slams came there. There was no real womens pro tour so the best players were always in amateur, unlike the mens.

@arinmajumder5218

3 жыл бұрын

@@grantgoffin4774 U simply do not know anything about Tennis which is very much obvious from ur analysis. Are u a Martina hater or a homophobe?? First, answer this. Martina Navratilova is d greatest singles, doubles & mixed doubles player who has ever lived. She won 18 slams & an astounding 31 doubles & 10 mixed doubles slams & also 167 WTA tournaments ( highest by any one in d open era) . Her records speak for herself. No need of Ur biased, untrue & false narrative. Navratilova & Evert formed d greatest rivalry in d history of Womens' Tennis & everyone acknowledges it. Had Evert not been there she could have ended up with more than 24 slams. She had an astounding 59 slams altogether , 2nd only to Margaret Court ( 62 ). She had won a record 9 Wimbledon titles ( Wimbledon is known as d most prestigious among all Grand Slam Tournaments). Steffi Graf is perhaps d greatest Singles player but absence of Monica Seles who was her greatest rival made it a bit doubtful. So, Serena Williams is d best Singles player of all time but her main rival was her elder sister which also made it a bit clumsy as people say their father actually decides who would win. Nevertheless, she is a great champion. May be d GOAT ( singles). So, it is either Steffi or Serena at No1 or 2 of all time. But it is in singles . If u consider singles, doubles & mixed doubles altogether, Martina Navratilova is undoubtedly d greatest ever. Even d legendary Billi Jean King also stated d same. There is no denying of dat.Margaret Court does not come in d picture because she doesn't not fall completely in d open era, mainly in non-professional ( amateur) era. Chris Evert is d 4th greatest of all time. So, it has to be 1) Serena Williams 2) Steffi Graf 3) Martina Navratilova 4) Chris Evert. But, considering d all formats of Tennis i.e Singles, doubles & Mixed doubles it has to be only Martina Navratilova.

@grantgoffin4774

3 жыл бұрын

@@arinmajumder5218 Awww John David, yet another new username. How many are up to now, 200. You are trying to break that freak O 285's record for the most. And you are trying to prove Navratilova fanboys are even worse than Selestials, which I never thought possible. And still using the tired line "anyone who does not consider Navratilova the GOAT is a homophobe." Yawn, that alone proves that you don't think Navratilova is the GOAT yourself, otherwise you would not resort to such a lame cop out. By your logic one could say anyone who thinks Serena isn't the GOAT is racist. I guess by your logic 99% of people must be homophobes since 99% of people think the GOAT is either Serena or Graf at this point, or someone other than Navratilova. Lastly if what you care about is most doubles, mixed, and singles titles combined Court is the GOAT. She has more singles titles than Navratilova, more singles slams than everyone, more combined singles/doubles/mixed slams than Martina despite that she retired at 33 and Martina at 55, she played 22 years longer and still couldn't catch her. So if that is what we are judging Court = GOAT, your hero Martina still loses. Good day, looking forward to seeing what your 201st username you make to agree with yourself is John David.

Great match. Just all-around great match. Serena played smart and worked the point. They both played to each others weakness. That serve was great even way back then. Steffi had never played some one with a serve that big and consistent. Just a great match!

Graf, Seles & co on the end, a new generation is comming !

Graf's Forehand...Just beautiful, like it

LOTS of comments about Serena not in her prime yet. Well, Steffi was past HER prime and though would win 1more final slam, she wasn't as sharp as she was in 87-90 and 95-96. A match with BOTH in their prime would have been more spectacular than this one though this was pretty good.

Thanks for posting. This kind of ferocity has all but disappeared from the women's game. Awesome battle between a great lioness and the new queen bee. Forget the old school vs. new style and GOAT arguements; or not, actually I love the zany logic and back and forth. My only real concern is why so few of our current top players cannot harness the speed, athleticism, power, footwork, mental and physical stamina to consistently produce this kind of glory.

Great match with spectacular points by both players

Steffi did not win more Grand Slams just because of the Seles stabbing.She had pure greatness,one thing Seles never had.Still like Monica better,though

@TheCritic605

7 жыл бұрын

she did win more after monica was stabbed...before she was stabbed graf was 1-3 against seles in GS finals..when seles was stabbed in 93 (monica beat graf in the 93 AO final) graf when on to win the rest of the slams that year then another 8 after that...

@dennisjacks7923

7 жыл бұрын

1989 Graf 3-0, 1990 Seles 2-0, 1991 Graf 2-0, 1992 1-1, 1993 Seles 1-0. The rivalry was 6-4 for Graf at the time of the stabbing. 3 of Seles 4 wins were on clay. The 1993 win at Australia was hard court.

@bear-ms3ms

5 жыл бұрын

@@dennisjacks7923 Very smart kid, in 1989 monica was 15Y Super Mega Lol, for you and stefians brothers are very precious these victories H2H, when seles was 15Y, it's not true? How stef when she was 15Y??? And also: San Antonio it's equivalent to Australian Open? Hamburg it's equivalent to Roland Garros? You make me die laughing :-D :-D :-D

Serena 23 slams,,,in January 2017 AOupen

Passing of the torch. What power...

I agree with your comments. Serena's achievements are historical. No need to argue the quality of Serena's acomplishments. Her matches are of high quality whether she is beating someone down to playing a three set comeback. Steffi Graf was a great champion. And Serena Williams still is a great champion.

Passing of the baton moment. I wish graf had played a few more years. She won the 1999 French and reached Wimbledon final and was only 30. She could maybe have won a few more slams. Nevertheless she retired at the top with that French open victory over hingis. If Clijsters can come back at 36 I'm sure graf could have played until 32/33 at least

@Hammerton32

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Tennis would have been better for it. Graf could have developed her backhand, beyond just the slice, and given her speed, could have improved her net game.

Is it just me, or was the ball hit by Graf at 2:59 well long? Thank goodness we have shot spot now, some of the calls made by line judges back then were worse than they are today.

@Lishmaa

6 жыл бұрын

Perfectchaos007 you could see it on serena face that it was way long

@tlovesgreens8244

6 жыл бұрын

I've seen that PLENTY OF TIMES THROUGHOUT SERENAS CAREER....OBVIOUSLY she was trained to ignore it and focus on winning the game. (MENTALly SUPERIORIty) SMH tho! ...but just another reason why SERENA WILLIAMS IS THE GOAT.

@markgrainge8198

6 жыл бұрын

It looks like Serena’s shot st 4.07 was as well. I think it “may” be the recording.

@brain8484

6 жыл бұрын

Perfectchaos007 yes it was clearly out

@stevennieves8308

6 жыл бұрын

Perfectchaos007 Yes, it was clearly out.

The two most athletically gifted women in tennis history...how intense and determined was both competitors where neither asked or gave, honestly my two favorite female players of all time. This is how tennis is suppose to be played.

Go back and watch Graf in the mid-90's and late 80's if you can find many matches from that period as well....you'll find that you aren;t much more impressed than what you see here. She was pretty consistent with her level of play throughout her career, but most of her fans will never admit it. When she started losing more, IMO, it was because other players started figuring her out more. There were only 1 or 2 people who were good enough to beat her anyway.

Graf owes a good portion of her illustrious career to Monica Seles' attacker. Because, if Monica had not been injured Graf would have never seen the results she has in the record books today.

Steffi siempre dándolo todo , menuda campeona ♥️

Hearty Congrats, Serena! To have defeated Steffi Graf had to have been a huge thrill in your young life! Thanks for all that and all the great finals victories you've had that we've been privileged to witness -- especially the majors!

I think Steffi is symbolically passing the torch onto Serena here.

steffi graf was the best female tennis player of all time. period. even if serena breaks the record of 22 grand slams, she would never have that elegance which graf had and probably still has. serena williams has the power of a man, so she plays menstyle tennis, thats her only secret. thats the reason why she is still in place even with 32.

@QuadThreat85

9 жыл бұрын

***** You insist on telling me what I watched....I WATCHED THE GARBAGE 90'S....how many times do I have to say it? 95-on, I was there...saw enough to be unimpressed. You mean to tell me that Serena only plays her best against the best 10% of the time? Because for the point I am making, her losses to lower players is irrelevant. In maatches where Serena faced a slam champion, no.1, or player she has lost to before....she has shown up playing less than B+ in maybe 10% at most. Serena does not have to play absolute best to beat anyone! That's what you fail to realize. That alone puts her in the GOAT discussion. Graf would have to play at A+ and count on Serena always playing B- or below to beat her.

@Notifysender90

9 жыл бұрын

Sweetie who ever said tennis was about finesse? Tennis is a sport which means it's tough, now just because Serena was very strong and had a different winning style lets not mistake the fact that Serena's arsenal by far shits all over Grafs so you can try that again. All you have to do is watch Serena's last championship of the French open and you'd see how finessed she is talking about a style of technique. There's no rules in winning. Hell, Usain Bolt runs like a cheetah and Tyson Gay runs like a gazelle did it prove who had the better stride to win a race? No sir no ma'am

@QuadThreat85

9 жыл бұрын

GeorgeHenryThomas Keep crying...Graf is gone, and she's never coming back. And when Serena's gone, she will have removed Graf from her supposed throne (which I still think belongs to Navratilova).

@Paakid

9 жыл бұрын

Even Steffi herself and her husband say Serena is the greatest ever :)

@QuadThreat85

9 жыл бұрын

***** Agassi basicslly just said it. He said it's easy to argue Serena as GOAT even as her career stands today. He would also be delighted to see Serena pass his wife's record.

Serena has 14 double grand slams as well

@dennisjacks7923

5 жыл бұрын

Big Deal....Billie Jean has 18, Margaret has 19 , Martina 31

@MrRazorblade999

5 жыл бұрын

@@dennisjacks7923 He was comparing with Graf

@T9RX3

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrRazorblade999 Graf has a better winning % than Serena. Plus Graf is the only player to win the calendar and Golden Slam. Serena can't touch that.

@T9RX3

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't mean anything in the singles GOAT discussion

Steffi lost this game but she will forever remain a unique tennis player who showed the game of the XXI century and one of the few who could resist the tennis machine Serena Williams

@regulusarcturus

4 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin That's a pretty weak argument...Serena has a winning h2h against all of her contemporaries, including Henin. Half of Henin's wins came within the span of 3 months in which Serena was in the worst shape of her career. You're clearly blinded by your dislike of Serena since I've seen you in the comment section of nearly every Serena video, but you might want to be a bit more objective. Both Steffi and Serena are all time greats, there is no reason to discredit either.

serena is a legend in her own right. she has developed into a complete, all court player. the facts don't lie.

God! I *love* Graf's style!

Classic Serena. Fight, fight.

Serena adored steffi. Look at that embrace the kiss that you do to royality.. I'm sure staff never forgot that. Warmth.

Serena Williams is magnificently highly-skilled. And was so even as a champion tennis player as a child. And here, as a teenager, we see Serena's refreshingly innocent joy when she beats Steffi Graf. She skips like the innocent girl she is. Gotta love it!

1999...She's still playing 2018 woow...

The difference between "true fans" and "fanatics" has never been more evident anywhere than in the comment section of this video.

Serene Wiliams is the best male tenis player in the history of wta!!!

This was a high quality match. Serena's talent shines through playing the great Steffi Graf. Serena earned this win against Graf. Reminds me a little of what Keys showed against Serena in the AO Semifinals. I wonder if in 10 years we will be looking back and comparing Keys body of work to Serena

@QuadThreat85

9 жыл бұрын

That would be amazing

@billson4110

9 жыл бұрын

no

a lot of (selected) Graf highlights here ; ) but Serena hits most (more of) of the winners in this match... like the winners from 9.45. I remember watching that match..

Graff the best player of all time. At the age of 30 made Serena work really hard to win that match. Serena only 18 and with a lot of power and athleticism.

@doksh5740

Жыл бұрын

That's funny. You should be recognizing that Serena who is only 18 defeated the top player of her time

Why is the score not shown on screen? How can you tell which are break points, set points?

What impress me is seeing them after such a tough battle shaking hands, kissing and smiling in the end. Something absolutely impossible to see in this era.

Two greatest champions in my book. Stats wise Graf still has the edge, but in terms of passion, atheletism and talent Serena is miles ahead. History will be more favorable to Serena as GOAT!

@tjrtt

8 жыл бұрын

@Illya Kuryakin, oh really? Lol you are hoping she is not mentioned in 50 years time. The stats tell a different story. Many people of the generation have already forgotten Steffi Graf. Poor you!

@tjrtt

8 жыл бұрын

+Illya Kuryakin In terms of endorsements...Li Na, LMAO As for Facebook, Graf currently has about 500,OOO...Serena hasn't retired yet and well, you guessed it LMAO. We get that you don't like Serena, but stop making stuff up!

@tjrtt

8 жыл бұрын

***** I did and I gave you an answer. No need to get testy with the name calling lol

@tjrtt

8 жыл бұрын

***** Why bring up Graf's endorsements and Facebook followers to begin with. Her endorsements pale in comparison to Li Na's and so does her Facebook followers in comparison to Serena. No one cares about that anyway. It seems like your grasping at straws and it has nothing to do with the basic fact that Serena is way better than Graf.

@tjrtt

8 жыл бұрын

@IIya Kuraykin, so by your reasoning she shouldn't lose to anyone? Like Graf never lost to mediocre players in her time? Serena lost 4 matches this year out of how many played? You have the logic of a 5 year old. BTW Muguruza is now ranked #4...you make no sense.

Steffi graf was simply the best.

@200damary

9 жыл бұрын

ايمن حامد serena is better

@JordanjamesX

8 жыл бұрын

exactly

Fantastic that a very young Serena here had the skill and mental strength to beat the much-vaunted Steffi Graf at Indian Wells. Wonderful!

Martina has said on record that Serena is the greatest female player of all time. Actually, I just heard her say it on CNN.

Steffi Graf- my childhood hero!

the 2 best womans tennis player of history. Just enjoy!!🙌

Steffi is all time superstar

Serena improved so much on her forehand side seeing this again. Great match, from both!