Here in Mississippi we get $30 a ton for pine logs 16’6” length with 12” top minimum, and hard wood pulp wood 3” top minimum tree length is $28 a ton , so we bought a saw mill and cut lumber up out of the logs we get or chip it , make more money that way

Another excellent video -- thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights. You mentioned that one of the videos you expect to do soon will be about what groundies are expected to do and how you manage and train them to make them more productive. It would be interesting if you could say a bit in that video or a separate one regarding what you do to find and keep good groundies. Everyone always defaults to "pay them better" and there's no doubt that paying a reasonable wage is a big part of it, but there undoubtedly much more to it than just the pay rate. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I know it's gotta be tough to think about recording and editing videos when you're working hard all day in the heat.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Noted 👍

I'd like to see some videos on inspecting used equipment. Like if I wanna buy an old grinder, chipper, skid steer etc. What do we look for to make sure it's gonna be a reliable machine? I'd also love a video on advertising and picking up work as a new outfit. I read your book but that topic can't be covered too much. Thanks bro!

That was very educational thank you as a new landowner I thought my trees were worth a lot more and like you said it may be different in my area but now I'm gonna go research that further

I really appreciate the videos you make and share. I have learned alot from them. I like how you talk about alot of things other don't or won't. I like how your channel is very down to earth no fluff or anything like that.I look forward to the reviews you mentioned about chainsaw pants and boots. I think you should do a live stream of questions and answers. That would give your audience a chance to enter act with you directly. I look forward to more great videos. Thanks again.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! I like that idea. Thank you for your input and for watching.

Depending on the area you are in and the species of tree you bring to the mill makes a big difference on what the mill is willing to pay. The mill also deducts for various conditions of the logs brought in, some logs they won't even pay for them if they have no value. North Carolina has no shortage of trees, so they pay less for them.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

100%

Man you definitely showed me something! Thank you.

Much appreciated for the information... Best of luck to you with your dreams and aspirations... thanks for the info

That is a heck of a lot of work for such little return. Good video. Educational!

I am a homeowner getting a tree service done for the first time. Before getting these numbers I thought those tree service guys were getting 30-300 per log they take off my property depending on size. Now that I see you made less than 2 fitty for 12+ huge trees I feel dumbstruck. Thank you for showing the customers that there ain’t that much money growing on trees.

@dandamcgowan2586

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what kind of tree it is too! A veneer white oak, walnut, or chestnut oak will do really good

@Bryan-yl7mg

Жыл бұрын

Unless it's a very sought after grade of lumber, most big mills won't even touch "yard trees". They just assume they're full of metal. People nail all sorts of things to trees and a piece of metal will ruin a saw blade real quick. Between replacing/repairing the blade you've also got lost time while that machine is down. For a production mill it isn't worth the risk. Most tree services, especially if they aren't near a local mill, have to pay dump fees at the landfill or have a buddy with a big piece of land they can burn on.

@hydrolito

Жыл бұрын

It varies with type of wood and condition of wood, if it is sold to make guitars, violins, pianos, furniture, tool handles and baseball bats, is worth more than wood for burning. Have no idea what logs sell for near here.

@joshlower1

4 күн бұрын

Depends on the tree.

You the Man Kenny

My Fiancé fell in love with tree service removal when he did it working for someone else and after talking about starting our own company for two years, we're finally starting it here in Georgia. Your videos have definitely guided us!

@chuch541

Жыл бұрын

Good luck! fell safely!

@hollihoodnews9391

Жыл бұрын

I’m in Ga and hope to one day apply the knowledge you gave💯❤️

You have some nice equipment many years ago I used to work with a guy taking down tree's, you should have seen the junk we had. Couple homemade triaxle,trailers,that we would haul short wood 5feet long, tools and saws on a old rescue squad truck 😂, had a vintage lineman truck with winch and boom in back, to lift large logs or stand tree's up after hurricanes, no brakes, I had to tow line truck to job with my 84 square body truck. When we used it, a ancient clapped out bucket truck. We looked like the Beverly hillbillies coming through town. Those were the days. SC here.

@KennysTreeRemoval

6 күн бұрын

🤣🇺🇸🤙

I see this being worth it if you can sell a semi load or selling to those who cut firewood. But keep on keeping on. 💯

Prices in central Georgia are $36 per ton for pine sawtimber and the same for hardwoods. Cutting the logs up and drying does carry and expense, but small scale logging seems hardly economical anymore.

Oh,running which was already vintage at the time, old gear driven homelite 66s with no mufflers. I bought a couple new huskies one time, I think a 55 and a 2100 old guy said, you don't need all that, you're just showboating. Cutting darlington oaks in town over 4feet across.

Time of year helps a lot too

I love your enthusiasm bro God bless you,,,I m at the sun shine state,,,,as a landscaper

I have only sold to the mill by the board foot, not by weight. Good video though I will be watching you guys grow

@Bryan-yl7mg

Жыл бұрын

The only mill in my area (that isn't a guy in his backyard with a portable sawmill) only buys by weight. Unless you've got some rare specialty logs come through, their whole goal is to get the logs in and pump the lumber out. Time is money, so have the trucks drive over the scales at the gate instead of paying somebody to stand out there trying to measure every log in a load.

Good vídeo 👍

Nice logs!

I've been chainsaw milling for a while, got the Husqvarna 3120xp with a 6' bar and granberg mill. I've had so many people saying if I come cut down this tree I can have the wood. Well, I'm not a tree service. I'm not licensed, I sure don't have that kind of insurance, I don't have a bucket truck, climbing gear, rigging, a loader... It's just me and a chainsaw. There's a reason the tree service is quoting $4k!

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

💯

Tipping fees at our dump is sky high! Something is better than nothing, timber prices around here are in the tank!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Yup

Already have a truck like that got her brand new she got 60000 miles and haven’t had to put work into her yet

Thanks for the deets and keeping it real... A more detailed breakdown of the fuel cost and other stuff needed to run... would be greatly appreciated... Cheers!

I saw logs. Let’s roll.

I enjoyed the video, and I am wonder how they price the logs at the mill, is it by the ton,or the board ft of lumber they will get? Thanks and I will be subscribing to your Chanel.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

By the ton and quality of the wood

I would burn the logs before I sold them for that price. They’re worth a lot more than that mills are notorious for not paying!

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Can’t burn in our area, so we work with what we have

It would take a lot of loads and years of work to break even on your equipment. Trucks and trailers cost a lot, not to mention maintenance. With the tree service, at least you are getting paid to cut them down, but logging itself is not worth the money.

Up where I'm at in west michigan every single log buyer and sawmill owner I have spoke to within a hrs drive of me won't touch "yard trees". So they want nothing to do with them

@fredscheerle7592

Жыл бұрын

Can understand that, the amount of steel in then!

Really depends on the type of logs you bring to the mill. We’re paying over 2$ a board foot for white oak.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Where are you located

Thank you for making this video! I really appreciate it. I have White Oak, hickory and red cedar… how much do you think I could get for that on a full sized logging truck with crane. Even if you are pricing from your neck of the woods?

@KennysTreeRemoval

6 ай бұрын

You will definitely get more, probably triple the amount or more.

If I do not run a log on my own mill, I process it all into firewood. Around here we get $75 per face cord. It takes a few logs per face cord. But putting that to weight - a face cord weighs roughly 1200 to 1500 lbs. I get about 2 - 3x what you are getting but then again it takes a lot of work to process it all.

@flyalmighty2249

Жыл бұрын

How do you find the companies to sell the lumber to after you cut the trees down for like 2x4’s ?

@countrywoodproducts

Жыл бұрын

@@flyalmighty2249 Around here you put an ad up and people come to you. If your price is right, you will be flooded with business.

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

You sell pine wood?

Thanks for the education. It would be interesting to know what price rare hardwood logs bring such as black walnut.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Much more than pine but not much more in my area

@williamwonser3525

2 жыл бұрын

@@KennysTreeRemoval thanks Kenny 👍

@TIMBERSAVAGELLC

Жыл бұрын

I pay $0.70 -$2.20 a board foot on black walnut up to $5.00 a foot on veneer and 40in + walnut here in michigan

If you bought a portable saw mill and had one or maybe two people you can make a lot more, plus you can sell every bit of the trees, and I mean all, even the saw dust can be sold , you can make off 106 board foot $265 for one hour plus the by products you can make $300 or more, per hour maybe more if you have a fast guy and saw.

Is that all pine logs? They don't sell for jack, lol.

A video that shows what price of timber vs s4s timber would be nice.

We loose money hauling logs here in Michigan..... sick industry

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Insane man. And lumber keeps going up

@groundpounder24365

2 жыл бұрын

Got that right..I was just commenting on that

WOW that's NOT much money for all that effort & cost. I thought it would be much much more !!! Thanks for informing....

@KennysTreeRemoval

9 ай бұрын

You’re welcome!

Would you make more money to split it for firewood ?

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

No money on pine tree firewood. Only use here for outdoors and hardly

Being you are a tree service you got paid to remove the trees yes? Basically you don’t have to pay to dump and probably covers some of your fuel. The problem is people saw lumber prices and forgot about all the activity that goes into creating that 2x4 or sheet of OSB. Not to mention loggers saw very little in the way of getting paid more for their logs. Pine pulp in western MN is currently $35-40 per ton ($110-120 per cord). Hardwoods are $120-$140 per cord for firewood/pulp. Bolts are +-$165/cord and grade logs are well over $200 per cord. Interesting to see what different areas pay!

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your insights on the costs and considerations involved in the lumber industry. You are correct that as a tree service company, we are paid to remove trees and may not have to pay to dispose of them, but it is important to note that there are still costs associated with the equipment, labor, and transportation required to remove and dispose of trees. Additionally, the fluctuations in lumber prices are influenced by various factors such as supply and demand, production costs, and market trends. We appreciate your perspective on the current pricing for pine pulp and hardwoods in western MN and how it compares to other types of logs and grades in different areas. Thank you for engaging with our content and sharing your knowledge on this topic.

I would like to see how to write an estimate? Or who goes to see the job? Idk If I'm making any sense

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Get my pdf in the description, everything you need to know in it.

even if logs don't pay anything I would much rather take them to the mill instead of turning em into fire wood or chipping em anyway just because I'd rather the tree get turned into something useful vs sit at the county till they disintegrate. I'd rather the tree someones paying me to cut down anyway go into the lumber market vs seeing another perfectly good tree get cut down to fill supply demand I coulda filled with my logs. the stuff I get ain't nothing compared to the logs them big lumber operations get but everything helps I guess.

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

I agree, now when you’re running a business what’s more profitable is your first option, follow about efficiency and recycle. If we can’t sell the logs we either give them away or take them to landfill and they will process them for mulch to the consumer to use around their gardeing beds etc.

What if you break the lumber down into 2x4’s? Wouldn’t you get more? I’m really interested in getting into that trade. I know someone very successful but he’s secret with his ways

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Don’t have time for that

How much would black locust logs go for in your area?

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Not sure

What about oak instead of pine... How much is the mill there paying for oak? Thanks.

@KennysTreeRemoval

9 ай бұрын

Much better but still much less than a couple of years ago.

Does anyone know the proper price in the Middle of TENNESSEE!? I just moved here & im dumbfounded!

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Call your local mill and find out

Much more money in selling fire wood 200 a chord. Maybe hire a part timer to split firewood or get your own Alaskan mill!

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Not worth our time, then having to load and deliver it.

Do u do multi loads a day?

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes

Is that the mill down in Duncan

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

No Apex

What city do is this?

You need to get a woodmizer

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

we get nothing here /pay to dump everything . And i pass one of the biggest mill in Va every day on my way to the shop, The mill here only takes logs from certified sellers on a tractor trailer load. Nothing else,

@KennysTreeRemoval

4 ай бұрын

Yup, I’m always looking for logs trucks for sale in VA

$20 a ton seems very low, even for pulp.

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

100%

what kind of wood is it

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Pine

Buy and salting walnut logs

How would I pay if I wanted to buy about 30 logs for myself

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Contact me

Do you ever pay a client to cut down a tree to log? say a client has a black walnut tree, would you pay the client to cut the tree down?

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

No tree is worth me trading my time, experience, equipment wear and tear plus labor. If you hire my company we are charging you for our services.

55 x2 plus AC

Dang that's peanuts

Youd make more turning it into firewood

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Pine don’t sell here for firewood

@mauldin128

Жыл бұрын

Maybe sawing it into boards then. I live not far from you and untreated pine is always out of stock. Something to consider.

Nah dude.... cruise the tube to find a buyer!!! Stockpile a load of hardwood for them $s

If all you cut is pine then there's no money in that. Don't know what species are in your area, do you cut oak or walnut. But 250 is good money, it's more like 500 if you're not paying a dump 250.

@KennysTreeRemoval

8 ай бұрын

We cut mostly pine, and most people think that you get a fortune for them when is not the case. Yes we get more hardwood trees still not much to cover truck wear and tear, paying hourly employee, fuel cost etc. Yes is saves us on dump fee but the point of the video is that is not a ton of money as a lot of people think it is. This customer thought that would have been at least 700-800 for that load, they were shock when i showed them receipt.

@tlak

8 ай бұрын

@@KennysTreeRemoval I have a lot of pine (KY) and and thought of a saw mill just to get some value out of them.

@KennysTreeRemoval

8 ай бұрын

We don’t have the time for it at this moment. I don’t care for making money out of the wood, again just proving the amount of money people think there is in it to what reality is

@tlak

8 ай бұрын

@@KennysTreeRemoval There should be more than 25¢ a board foot in it. And we had one short window to sell when the prices went up, but the loggers would only give 50¢ bf on 50/50 shares. That buyer dried up after the prices dropped. I have other timber.

Make pellets

1

@justianangster504

2 жыл бұрын

20 minutes in, he finally states how much he sold the logs for. -- 20 minutes in !

@justianangster504

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, you gotta get to THE POINT SOONER !! please. More editing needed. make your videos about 70 % shorter. more people will like them. more people will watch .

You shouldn’t have sold those larger logs by the ton, not falling for it

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

And so what

good heavens, a rick of firewood goes for 100+ dollars in today's market and you sold 12 tons of logs for 250 dollars.... hummmm..... think I would invest in a wood splitter and add a zero to that 250 dollar mill payment.

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this was pine, and we don’t use pine and won’t sell for firewood. Is either take a little bit at the mill or pay to dump it at a landfill

But lumber is sky high for no reason suck a scam

Who are you pissed off at ?

@KennysTreeRemoval

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what you are referring to. Thanks for watching

I wish you would stop saying you guys. Adress me directly, I know that there are thousands out there but it sounds more personal sitting in my house with you just talking to me. A simple hello sounds much nicer.

@KennysTreeRemoval

9 ай бұрын

Keep wishing 🤣

Buy a small sawmill

^5

@KennysTreeRemoval

5 ай бұрын

Whatever that means

Process the wood yourself

@KennysTreeRemoval

6 ай бұрын

What we are doing now that it has been a couple of years

Don't tell us how you enjoy doing the KZread videos you do it for the money

@KennysTreeRemoval

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for contributing to the millions 🤣🤣

@RickF1558

Жыл бұрын

@@KennysTreeRemoval lmao!!! Zinged him good :)

@FantaLaStrada

7 ай бұрын

lol!!!! good comeback!@@KennysTreeRemoval

Let's see some real Hardwood sales. Maple, Walnut, Oak, or Cherry. Everyone knows pulpwood isn't worth anything.

@KennysTreeRemoval

10 ай бұрын

Pocket change either way.