His name was actually Larry SEECAMP .. my good friend Dennis was friends with him I was supposed to meet Larry unfortunately he passed away before I got a chance.. what a fantastic inventor Larry was he made one of the world's best compact pocket pistols

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Larry was Ludwigs son, I believe Larrys actual name was Lueder? Larry co founded Seecamp with his dad and Larry used to post on the Seecamp forums a lot back in the day, was a plethora of information for the Seecamps. He is missed dearly on the forums! Thanks for watching Glen and thanks for the comment!!

The Seecamp is an excellent pistol, it was designed to shoot point blank, in those terrible moments of life and death situations. It does not need sights it is not an Olympic competition pistol and the 32 acp caliber was very popular in Europe at that time. I liked your video, excellent information and presentation, greetings from the deep south of the Americas.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

I've owned my Seecamp 32 since 1990. Would not give it up having had it so long just would not feel the same without it

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

I bought my .32 in 2017 and love it. Yeah, you have to search high and low for the recommended ammo, but other than that it is a beautiful piece of workmanship. I can close my hand around it and you'll never see it (I have big hands). It also sits nicely in a number of pocket/wallet holsters that make it great in the back pocket. "What? You say you want my wallet"?

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thanks I watched a couple times because I was shopping for that models while listening have a great day

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

I have 2 Seecamp 32's. I also have 2 Keltec 32's. Love them both. The Keltec holds 7+1 over the Seecamp 6+1 but I love to be loving the Seecamp the most. The Seecamp has been flawless with Speer Gold Dots and PMC JHP's. The Keltec shoots them as well as FMJ like S&B and Fiocchi. I rotate pocket carry daily for work with both guns. Monday might be the Seecamp. Tuesday the Keltec. On another note I also have a NAA .22LR mini revolver I sometimes carry just going to the mailbox. It too is built like a surgical instrument like the Seecamp. It is quite the little beast to shoot with only a thumb and a finger but will teach the dumbest bad dog or in your face bad guy to play dead. In summation...arm yourself because no one else will save you!

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent feedback, Thanks for watching!!

@Just1American1966

Жыл бұрын

I have one of each between the Seecamp and the Kel-Tec. I have three of the NAA revolvers, one in each cartridge (LR, WMR, and Short.) I do like me some pocket guns, and I own several others, though only the KT, the Ruger LCP-MAX, and one of the NAA jewels get carried regularly, and usually is backing up something bigger on the belt.

@DomRivers67

Жыл бұрын

Where the hell is your mailbox? 'murica ffs lol

@DomRivers67

Жыл бұрын

For self defence you don't need sights, if you're shooting at someone 15 yards away you're not defending yourself you're in your John Wick fantasy land.

@Outdoorpro72

Жыл бұрын

@@DomRivers67you may have missed the dog reference. My mailbox is at the end of a 175-200 ft dirt road in the middle of the woods, not everyone lives in the city and depend on the cops to help them in times of need. Murica ffs

That was a perfectly succinct honest review. Loved it. Thx!

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Thanks for watching!!

Love my Seecamp .32, probably my absolute favorite gun. I carry mine using Underwood NON +P .32 ammo, works good last long time.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

I love Underwood Ammo! Thanks for watching!!

@Outdoorpro72

Жыл бұрын

Have you had any FTF or stovepiping with the underwood ammo?

@flyontop

Жыл бұрын

@@Outdoorpro72 none at all (note it is NOT one of the recommended ammo).

Glad to see you have a baby browning. I too have one. A very cool little handgun. 👍

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

I plan to do a video on the Browning soon. Thanks for watching!

*I feel I should warn all those who love this nostalgic mouse gun before they buy it.* *Definitely get it in your hands, and work it first.* *I always wanted this cool pistol, but never bought it because other firearms (and ammo) were more important to purchase first.* *Well, now I've purchased pretty much everything I need, so when I saw a new LWS for sale in a local gun shop, I couldn't believe it; it was like a Unicorn sighting.* *I had cash in my pocket, and patiently waited my turn to be helped, doing it with a smile, in anticipation of finally holding it.* *And I'll be damned, if in about 1 minute of handling, I decided I couldn't justify buying it for ccw purposes.* *It turned out that the tip of my index finger didn't fit into the hole of the trigger guard without first moving the trigger back a some.* *I played with it a little bit, handed it back, and said thanks anyway.* *If only the trigger was back 1/8", making the hole actually round, my finger would have fit, and I would have bought it.....Sucks!*

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Just1American1966

Жыл бұрын

You must have some thick digits. Mine aren't especially thin, and my index finger has a bit of wiggle room in front of my gun's trigger. I'm pretty sure that I have come across a gun that was actually too tight there for me, but I can't remember now which one, or even if it's one I currently own.

I'm probably going to buy a Seecamp soon. Thinking about the all-black one.

@HillbillyMusings

3 ай бұрын

I handled one of those at SHOT show a few years back, they are awesome. Thanks for watching!!

I own it in .25 and Love it. May get it in .32 now that they will be making them in Black. 👍🏼👍🏼

@HillbillyMusings

9 ай бұрын

thanks for watching!!

Good overview

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I like the video. Subbed. I’d do the history staring at the gun, rather than the box.:)

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Haha...thanks for the advice! I will definitely do that next time :) Thanks for watching!!

Your Seecamp has the latest, fully textured, grip. Previously, the Seecamp grip had a half-textured/half-smooth design running somewhat diagonally across its length. Based purely on aesthetics, I actually prefer the older grip design. I was slightly disappointed to see this design change in the grip texturing. Your thoughts? Also, I was glad to learn recently that the Seecamp. 25 ACP is still in the works. According to a reliable source, Seecamp has merely suspended its manufacturing of the .25 ACP temporarily, until it can acquire magazines that meet its specifications & tolerances from an third-party fabricator. Hope that happens sooner, rather than later!

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

That is awesome news if the .25 ACP is coming back! I've never owned one, but I heard that the .25 ACP version will eat any .25 ACP ammo. I've had both grip styles and to be honest, I actually kind of prefer the new grips. But it's aesthetics only, I never liked the curve or lines on the older grips. So with you liking the old grips, this is proof that tastes differ! :) Thanks for the comment and I'll be watching for the .25 version!!

@SMac-bq8sk

2 жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings: Welcome! BTW, the info I passed along regarding the .25 ACP is directly from Seecamp. However, they did not offer any timeline for when it'll be available on the retail market. All depends on resolving the mag issue. I'm keeping an eye on it too!

@MarkMphonoman

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 100% about the older version grips. Much nicer. Also, the older grips were made out of unique materials.

The reason for the renewed interest in pocket semiauto pistols, aka, derisively mouse guns is, two-fold. Collectors want to collect these. Same collectors state that pocket pistols are still useful as last-ditch, emergency personal protection. The old adage holds. The best handgun in the world is the one you have with you when you most urgently need it. Another old-timer added, I'd rather rely on my .25acp than harsh language.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

You got it!! Even a .22 or .25 in hand is better than nothing if you need it. thanks for watching!

Nice video! Hey have you had any luck using Hornady Critical Defense 32ACP 60 GR Flex Tip in your Seecamp 32? Run smoothly and reliably with this ammo?

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Can't say I tried it, but I seem to think some of the guys did on the Seecamp forum and had pretty good results. Thanks for watching!!

Hello and thank you for the video. What do you think why Seecamp Co. don't recommend Full Metal Jacket ? Considering vital practicing, to get familiarize to the monster recoil the 380 version does. To practice with hollows point in November of 2022 is extreme expensive.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Seecamp originally designed the gun around Winchester Silvertips. The hollowpoint ammo is usually slightly shorter than FMJ ammo, making it slightly smaller in size and easier to feed in the Seecamp. Well agreed though that hollow point ammo is very pricey. I've heard, but haven't tested myself, that the Winchester flat tip FMJ .32 ammo can be used in Seecamps. Thanks for watching!!

I own an NAA Guardian in .32 ACP, which is basically a rip-off of the Seecamp but with all of the Seecamp weirdness fixed: actual sights, button mag release, can eat FMJ's, takedown button, etc. I also appreciate that the Guardian is somewhat bigger than the Seecamp... it's already a very small gun, so the additional size/weight is helpful. The Seecamp is a good gun for what it is, but I question the usefulness of hollow points in .32 ACP. I used to carry Hydra-Shoks in my Guardian, until I saw some ballistic videos on the .32 and it basically cannot meet the 12-18 inch standard with expanding ammo while there is little concern about over penetration with FMJ's, so FMJs (or the Extreme Cavitator, if you can find it) is the proper carry ammo. Given that the Seecamp is hollow point only, this to me limits its usefulness, all else being equal

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Yes I agree 100%, the hollow point will NOT expand out of the Seecamp. Mr. Seecamp had an explanation for the advantage of hollow points, but I can't recall what it was. I owned a Guardian before as well, very nice guns. Thanks for watching!!

@apuzyr

2 жыл бұрын

Not for nothing, but PMC.32 FMJ works fine in my Seecamp.

@MarkMphonoman

2 жыл бұрын

You raise excellent points.

@MeneerHerculePoirot

Жыл бұрын

"...but I question the usefulness of hollow points in .32 acp." Couldn't agree more. My seasonal EDC ammo is .32 FMJ in spring/summer and 9mm in fall/winter. The 9mm is a combo of JHP and FMJ.

@cryengine_x

8 ай бұрын

who cares about hollowpoints especially in a mouse gun. never understood the online obsession with punching a very slightly bigger hole in the bad guy (that is probably more than made up for by the better penetration if it doesnt expand). i'd run hollowpoints in the seecamp only because thats what it feeds due to length, not because i care that they are hollowpoints. i'd rather have ball probably. also the guardian being bigger and heavier is exactly why i like it less. follow that logic and you end up carrying a glock 19, then a desert eagle. most people and especially youtube gun reviewers only rate mouse guns by how good they are at the range, which is opposite. they are not range guns. more important is how easy they are to carry and conceal. i wouldn't even shoot one more than a few dozen or at most couple hundred rounds to make sure it runs, they arent made for that beating. this is why every reviewer will tell you the lcp max is better than the original lcp. sure, at the range or if carrying constraints arent considered it's definitely a better gun in every way, but my original lcp is much smaller and lighter and conceals much better. so i sold my max and bought a original lcp back! similarly why i'm interested in these seecamps (though i've not yet and may never purchase one). because they are the smallest size of this archetype available. not because theyre nice to shoot at the range.

Could you put a link for the metal gauge you bought on eBay?Is it the same size for the .380?

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Howdy. I believe the .380 would be a different size, longer in length. Just in case you need it though here is the link to the .32 gauge: www.ebay.com/itm/184700333801

Question? With caliber of this gun is more valuable between the two gun?

@HillbillyMusings

5 ай бұрын

.32 ACP is the caliber

You said you've never shot the gun, but you carry it? My seecamp had a few hiccups in the first 50 rounds of pmc bronze .32, but after that, it runs pretty good. It might be worth breaking it in

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I admit it ain’t smart to carry an unproven firearm, but it’s so dang cute so I had to at least once. Thanks for watching!

@Nam8Macs

2 жыл бұрын

They are cute as hell aren't they

What do you call that "gadget" for measuring ammo? I want one on Amazon, kept googling tool, but no luck.

@HillbillyMusings

3 ай бұрын

Search “Seecamp ammo gauge” on eBay and you’ll find it. Thanks for watching!!

As awesome as that seecamp is I can't afford a fussy eater I love my savage 1917 so far only thing it won't eat are flat points but that seecamp is the coolest tiny gun I've seen

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Joe! Hope you're doing well bud and staying warm :)

I fervently hope the Baby Browning doesn't fire when "pawing off the safety". I much prefer a trigger pull being required. I still have my Great Uncle's Railroad Pistol a 1908 "Vest Pocket" Colt.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

I opted for the Seecamp due to all the hiccups of the NAA as posted on KZread.

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

You said “pea shooter” I disagree. The .32ACP is not a pea shooter, its a viable self defense caliber if used properly. Most all handgun rounds are underpowered if not placed where they can do the necessary damage to stop a attacker; training is key to surviving any attack. Having any firearm greatly enhances your chances and abilities at winning or avoiding the altercation entirely. I have the NAA copy of your Seecamp and I absolutely love it for what it is; it rides with me everywhere. I have it loaded with the Underwood Extreme Penetrator .32ACP round and have no doubt it will do exactly what it’s supposed to do should I need it. IMO, if you are gonna carry a tiny pistol load it with the very best round offered in its caliber.The Extreme Penetrator turns this little round into something much more devastating than just a FMJ round and with plenty of penetration depth to get to the vitals. Not to mention the mentality behind carrying this type of pistol. My philosophy is simple, you cause me to pull this thing out and shoot it; it’s probably gonna result in a mag dump. I carry two additional mags when I carry my NAA .32ACP to back up that mantra.

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%! Plenty of times a 'pea shooter' have solved problems I'm sure. As I type this I have a Keltec P32 in my front pocket. I've also had the NAA that you mention, very fine pistol as well. I have been wanting to try those Cavitators actually, I need to break down and order some. Thanks for watching!

@sulaco2122

Жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings The .32 Cavitators/Extreme Penetrators jamb my first gen Seecamp up solid, had to disassemble the gun to get the round out of the chamber. That round fired like a champ in a Walther .32

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

@@sulaco2122 Yeah, I'll definitely try them in the Colt 1903 or KelTec P32, not the Seecamp. Thanks for the reply!

I am about to trade my .32 in on either a LCP Max or CW.380. I found the ammo tough to find and that’s the biggest turn off for me. I really want to keep this pistol and pocket carry it however I’ve never fired it. I also bought the ammo gauge hoping to looking for ammo that may work and the recommended ammo didn’t fit so I’m giving up.

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough I just traded my Seecamp over the weekend for this very reason. Just a little too ammo picky and finicky overall for my liking. Plus, it's a chunk of steel for sure in your pocket, but you can't argue the quality of construction. Thanks for watching!

@poppatello

2 жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings what did you trade it in on?

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

@@poppatello S&W Model 10, heavy barrel version. I'll be doing a video on it soon!

@poppatello

2 жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings I’ll look for it.

HillBill...has the Seecamp been reliable and trouble free?

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeremiah, sadly I was offered too good a trade on this one and I traded it off before I had a chance to test fire it :( Thanks for watching!

@jeremiahjohnson9908

2 жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings ...Thank you sir.

Question? Can you still buy this gun and if you can How much is the gun?🤔

@HillbillyMusings

5 ай бұрын

Yes they still make them new. Check on Gunbroker for prices. Thanks for watching!!

The big problem right now in January 2023 is that there is no .32 ACP hollow point ammunition to be had anywhere in the nation. All I find is, "Out Of Stock". I don't know what is happening. If you didn't purchase a few boxes of .32 ACP hollow points a few years back, too bad for you now. I'd be willing to purchase a box or two from a private owner willing to spare it. But no Internet website will allow ads of private ammunition sales. Also, you'd have to rely on the honesty of the seller.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Check out Ammoseek website, last time I looked they had some of the PMC Bronze.32 ACP that was not on the Seecamp list but was known to work function in it. Thanks for watching!!

The Seecamp has become really obsolete since the introduction of the Ruger LCP Max. Seecamp is still smaller I know, but the LCP Max is small enough to pocket.

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

I tried a LCP Max as pocket carry for a couple of weeks, just couldn't get used to its size, so went back to the regular LCP II. Thanks for watching!

@MarkMphonoman

2 жыл бұрын

Respectfully disagree. The Seecamp is not obsolete. There is a place for both of them.

@itmeng

2 жыл бұрын

@@HillbillyMusings same here, pocket carried the max and the double stack was noticeably larger in the pocket.

@jrnumex9286

2 жыл бұрын

that max 12 rds semi auto and a tab bigger unless you have nylon running shorts on or something tough to beat. now keltec's 32 half the price, almost half the weight, right down to the measuring tape on size and no special ammo requirements. i have the max and kel 32 and looking at seeC in 380 maybe also.

@Subtlenimbus

Жыл бұрын

I tried a max for a while. It shot a foot low at 10 yds so the sights were useless, and it grouped like a shotgun pattern because the slide was so loose on the rails. It also occasionally locked back with rounds left in the mag. It was okay for the pocket, but a little thick. I’m also not a big fan of single-action guns with no safety or firing pin block.

The 1968 Gun Control Act was a knee-jerk reaction from Congress over the assassination of presidential candidate, Robert Kennedy, younger brother of the late, John F. Kennedy. Only old people remember this but back then Robert Kennedy was highly popular and even loved by large swathes of the American People. It looked like Robert Kennedy was going to even sway large numbers of Republican voters over to his side in the 1968 presidential election. Had he lived, Robert Kennedy was set to establish the record of the biggest election landslide in November 1968. His Republican opponent, Richard Nixon, was about to be consigned to the dustbin of political history in a crushing defeat that even could have negatively affected the destiny of the Republican Party. There would probably be no Ronald Reagan in 1980. Sirhan Sirhan, for reasons still not known nor understood today, decided to assassinate Kennedy with several shots to his head from a cheap, 22LR revolver of foreign manufacture. In its grief and rage, Congress struck out, I would say, blindly, blaming the firearm more than the shooter. It was still remembered that beloved John F. Kennedy had been assassinated by a $106 imported surplus military Italian WW2 Carcano carbine. As means of expiating its collective grief, outrage, and anger, Congress knee-jerked the Gun Control Act prohibiting the importation of foreign firearms into the United States. Is emotion ever a good basis for legislating new laws? Emotion was behind the ill-advised and ill-fated Prohibition Act which prohibited sales of alcohol throughout the entire nation. Not only did the population flaunt the law, vast numbers of mobsters and gangsters sprung up and flourished throughout the nation's major cities. The crime mobs and syndicates grew hugely powerful and wealthy, able to corrupt or circumvent even the state governments and governors. The United States was on the verge of becoming a liquor narco state like you see in the narco states today of Mexico and Central America. Individual American state governments and governors were helpless, either suborned and corrupted or else intimidated by these powerful crime organizations. It took the creation of the FBI to bring them down. It was the Golden Age of the heroic FBI, not the Praetorian Guard that the FBI turned into in 2020. Do we really want to go through all that again?

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@slchance8839

7 ай бұрын

good read. thanks for posting. I've long suspected that irrational legislation has existed for as long as civilization itself, but i'm too young (50) and ignorant to speak from personal observation. I know that i've seen i recently, but lacked the interest to have observed it much in the prior 30 years.

That's not the original.. that's after he sold the company. I have not checked. out the reissues but I have an original. Pretty great little pistol. Built like a brick.

@HillbillyMusings

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information and thanks for watching!! I've since picked up an earlier Milford era .32 Seecamp, runs like a top with the right ammo.

That’s a Southwick Seecamp

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Forward to 9:25 to skip all the talking and get straight to the gun show

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

LOL...yeah sorry :) I do tend to talk too much :) Thanks for watching!!

Usenet reference. You yungins have no idea how great those were.

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

I think you dropped at $20 bill. 😀 thanks for watching!

Good gosh. The video is 1/2 done and he's still yapping. By the way, there's no gun in that box.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

LOL... yes I am a yapper...thanks for watching :)

Safety checks? Just saying please. Thank you sir.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Не тяни быка за хвост.

@HillbillyMusings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

8 minutes of bs before he shows the gun

@HillbillyMusings

2 ай бұрын

LOL...Thanks for watching!!

That’s wasn’t a brief background history that was a documentary, more talking than gun unboxing sheeesh

@HillbillyMusings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Sorry I admit I get long winded sometimes :)

Well it ain't no problem of bastard file can't fix

@HillbillyMusings

4 ай бұрын

LOL...Thanks for watching!!